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Dec. 23, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2395: The Steal In Arizona; Trump Stands Up Against The Reckless Spending
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ben bergquam
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steve bannon
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boris epshteyn
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chip roy
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mike benz
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jake tapper
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on this, people.
steve bannon
You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
unidentified
I know you don't like hearing that.
steve bannon
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bach.
chip roy
Actually want to do to do their job.
There you go!
That's what you got!
And what happened in the Senate today?
What happened in the Senate today?
I'll tell you what happened in the Senate today.
Blunt, Boozman, Capito, Collins, Cornyn, Cotton, Graham, Inhofe, McConnell, Moran, Murkowski, Portman, Romney, Rounds, Shelby, Thune, Winker, and Young
Eighteen Republicans who campaign on fiscal responsibility, who campaign on securing the border, who campaign on balancing the budget, who campaign against the swamp, who run commercials saying they're going to change this place, did the swampiest thing you can possibly do, and that is to vote
For a 4,100-page bill they got just yesterday, not knowing remotely what all is in the bill, because it was cooked up behind closed doors with no appropriation meetings, jamming it over a new House Republican majority, doing it intentionally to prevent us from being able to debate and vote on how we're going to fund Ukraine, how we're going to fund our own national defense, how we're going to fund non-defense discretionary spending, and ensure that we use that money
to secure the border of the United States.
That is what your Republican senators, those 18, did to you, America.
Remember it.
Remember it when Republicans going around thumping their chest talking about changing this town when they are neck deep drowning in the swamp.
When they are emblematic of everything wrong with the swamp.
Remember it.
Remember it.
I don't like saying it.
I've got friends on both sides of the aisle and some of these 18 are my friends.
But you know what?
John Adams and Thomas Jefferson had a pretty testy relationship because they fought over the way this country should be run and be set up.
We are hired to fight for the people we represent.
So I'll be damned if I'm going to give a rat's rear end whether I offend some of the people in this godforsaken town because I dare question, regardless of which party they are in, regardless of who they say they're friends with or who they campaign with, I'll be darned if I'm going to be cowed.
larry kudlow
Senator Lee, just the last point here.
I mean, I think Rand Paul put his finger on it.
He was on our show a couple nights ago.
He said GOP has lost any power of the purse and he said the GOP has emasculated itself.
This is not a good episode for the Republican Party, is it?
unidentified
No, not at all.
And in fact, I'm glad you brought up the tax hikes in there, which are themselves problematic, and you're correct to point out that they're not getting the attention they deserve.
One of the reasons that this sort of thing can happen, and not get much attention in the process, and Republicans can still go through the motions and vote for it devastatingly, It's because it's folded into a 4,155-page bill, one that was negotiated in secret by four or five members of Congress, held secret from the public until Tuesday morning.
Larry, there's not a human alive who can digest 4,155 pages of legislative appropriations text in that short a period of time.
It's one of the reasons why this should never happen.
Republicans, in particular, who do this, should be asked to never, ever do it again.
We will self-destruct as a party if this ever happens again.
larry kudlow
Yeah, Fred, you're right.
Fred, you're right.
steve bannon
You're kidding me, right?
That's it?
You're kidding me.
It's Friday the 23rd, December, the year of our Lord 2022.
Merry Christmas.
Right?
This is all performative.
Yeah, I love me some Chip Roy and Mike Lee's a good man.
Ted Cruz has got a very stern, you know, letter to his constituents or memo to his constituents where he voted no.
They did it in secret.
This is all a con.
Just understand that.
It's all a con.
It's all a con.
Any senator could have stood up, instead of taking all the time to put his sweater on and do the night before Christmas routine, Rand Paul could have blocked this.
Mike Lee could have blocked this.
There's things in there.
Or they could have come together with a couple of them and filibustered it.
There are so many strategic and tactical things you can do in the Senate, which is very different than the House.
Give it 10 days and roll it into 2023.
It's all there.
The depths of this, and you gotta stop calling it the swamp.
The swamp's too cutesy a term.
It means like some sort of cute thing.
It's not cute.
This is your overlords, the administrative state, and this is how they pay for it.
Because it's unpaid for, the Federal Reserve is just going to print money on top of this.
And the numbers they're telling you are all lies.
It's much bigger than this.
And it's going to cost much more than this because of interest rates.
But it's to the heart of the rot of the system.
And those that want to change that and take and save their country have to understand the long odds, uphill fight, tough but doable, as I say, but you're going to have to have steely resolve.
And even Chip Roy, you know, with McCarthy, McCarthy was in the Roosevelt room a couple of weeks ago agreeing to get this done.
And then all of a sudden, when Matt Gaetz and people start blowing him up, oh, he's got old time religion, he comes out and it's about the spending, not about the spending.
The spending is a huge part of it, huge part of it, but it's not just simply about the spending.
It's about the structure of what they've done, what they've empowered, what they've financed systemically in the system itself.
It's also about – they gave Nancy Pelosi another year.
They conspired.
They just wanted – they'd rather have Nancy Pelosi than a Kevin McCarthy that's held hostage by the Trump right.
That's because even if McCarthy's to be speaker, the deal he has to cut, the deal he has to make, is with the hardest elements of the Trump right.
And they will have a sawed-off, a metaphorical sawed-off shotgun to his head, right, with the vacate the chair and all these types of things are pulling him to the right.
So they understood that.
They got that.
They knew that.
They knew this was to disembowel you as head of the creditors committee.
To take away your biggest part of leverage, which is the appropriations for one year.
And also in that year, in that year, is the year they have to deal with Donald Trump.
They have to deal with Donald Trump.
2023 will set out to be one of the most vicious and nasty years in American politics.
If you think it's been tough before, if you think it's been nasty before, if you think it's been a lot of work before, and you can't do anymore, that's fine.
I have no problem.
See you later.
Come back when you're better.
That's the definition of a sunshine patriot.
Tomorrow on our Christmas, starting Christmas Eve with our Christmas specials over the weekend we go back and we do the combat history of Christmas just to let everybody know that in the one of the most sacred times of year for the Jewish in the Christian religion and also the family get-togethers and all that We've gone through very tough times before, including Trenton in 17, you know, the Delaware in 1776, a freezing winter, much like the winter we're going to have.
We're having right now that we've been in tough times, but it's going to be hard because this Mitch McConnell is no fool.
He's a very cunning, evil, and crafty individual.
If you saw House of Cards, they kind of modeled that on, on, on Mitch McConnell, this entire thing.
Entire apparatus, besides funding different elements, they own their lobbyists, etc.
was to encircle, emasculate and destroy Donald J. Trump.
The Electoral Count Act, which they couldn't get past.
They didn't want to see daylight.
Just stuff it in there.
Right.
The Electoral Count Act.
But even more importantly, and this is why it was so important for McCarthy to have to allow the speaker, McCarthy, whatever, To have the gavel on appropriation, starting on the afternoon of January 3rd.
They have fully funded, and Zero Hedge, and I think Epoch Times, or Zero Hedge, did a magnificent piece on the Justice Department, the FBI, and particularly the Special Counsel, and what's going after Trump.
I think it's $2.6 billion for U.S.
attorneys, with a big focus on domestic terrorism, and, you know, the anti-democracy movement, as they call it, and also to prosecute things from J6.
Huge part of it including fully funding the special counsel on all the other Lawsuits they've got to come after Donald Trump a big this is why hey I was You got to work the phones on this because this is where they're coming after you and this is how they're gonna fund it and fund it they did So we got a you know, if you're part of the Trump movement you supported President Trump you have to face reality that we have now let the biggest enemies of Trump
The biggest enemies of Trump are now fully loaded with unlimited cash.
They get, they get, they get, they're fully funded for 2023 for this.
And their principal target is Donald Trump and Trumpism.
Let me bring in Boris Epstein, the J6 Boris.
So they, they flipped all their cards over in the last 48 hours.
That's fine.
We knew that was happening.
The entire J6 investigative, 2000 words or 900 pages, whatever it is.
And God, I think, look, I think it has perjured testimony in there nonstop from some of these people.
You know, Trump's got two hands on secret service agents and all this madness.
But the whole part of it is to come out and say it's all about a 14th.
It's all about something to the 14th Amendment.
It's all about a new law that must.
The whole purpose comes down in the Daily Mail had the headline was to stop Donald Trump for running again for federal office.
Just like the 41 grand dunes in the house put forward a bill to stop Donald Trump from running.
It's to stop Trump from running for the presidency again.
And that is what a big part of the omnibus bill, particularly as it relates to law enforcement, was to stop Donald J. Trump and to put out his tax return at the same time.
This has all been orchestrated.
Steve, you're not missing the plot at all.
Honored to be with you.
Honored to be with Apache this morning.
but to use as a springboard for their drive to kind of burl in, their drive now to destroy the absolute, total, and complete destruction of Donald J.
Trump.
Am I missing the plot here or is that essentially the narrative, sir?
boris epshteyn
Steve, you're not missing the plot at all.
Honored to be with you.
Honored to be with the party this morning.
You've got the plot right, but the result, the impact is to go in the other way.
The big taxes reveal a complete dud for the Democrats.
A, they voted, literally voted, to make a minor's private information, including a social security number, public in Barron Trump.
That was part of their big vote earlier this week.
And then they had to take days and days and days to scrub the information and clean themselves up.
So they got embarrassed on that.
And then when the taxes actually came out, look at the mainstream media could barely cover it.
I saw on CNN two surprises.
One, President Trump paid taxes, according to CNN, and two, the IRS didn't move quick enough.
So now the IRS is getting attacked by the Democrats, by the mainstream media, for quote-unquote, not moving fast enough.
And the IRS moves the way it moves.
It's just, what is happening to the Democrats, what is happening to the RINOs, what is happening to the establishment?
is a complete blowback and a rallying effect around President Trump.
And I'll tell you, the videos go a long way.
You saw the powerhouse on the omnibus yesterday you played, and I just sent you, just breaking in the last few minutes, President Trump saying it loud and saying it clear, that now that they have conspired to make his tax returns public, hey, let's go see the tax returns for the Biden crime family.
Let's go see what's going on.
How does Joe Biden get three, four, five Three, four, five mansions while he's a senator, while he's vice president.
How does that come together?
So now, hey, you know what?
Let's have a good time.
The American people see right through this charade.
And in terms of the omnibus, this is one of the most and maybe the most disgusting, traitorous, un-American act I've ever seen.
And we expect it from the Democrats, OK?
But to those eight, to the Republicans, To the 18 Republicans who dared vote for this Frankenstein canard, you ought to resign this moment.
Because you have sold your country down the river.
steve bannon
Boris, hang on for one second.
We'll come back and we'll play that tape.
Fifteen of these traitors begged on their knees to get Donald Trump's endorsements.
Remember, they all needed his endorsements to even exist.
This is, uh... It's worse than Imperial Rome.
boris epshteyn
Far worse.
unidentified
Read the decline and fall, and then compare it to what's going on in Washington, D.C.
steve bannon
Please don't call it the swamp anymore.
unidentified
It's too evil to have some cheesy phrase.
Okay.
steve bannon
Of course, I have time to go, so...
donald j trump
Into the political arena to save our country, I spent my entire life building a truly great company.
Over the years, I've employed thousands and thousands of people.
I built towering skyscrapers standing tall above the greatest cities of the planet.
And from New York to Miami, from Los Angeles to Chicago, from Ireland to Scotland, and from Dubai to Hawaii, All the way to the Las Vegas Strip, I have created magnificent properties in some of the most spectacular locations on Earth.
In short, I have achieved the American dream beyond all imagination.
Most politicians only know how to kill jobs.
I have actually created them, but by the thousands.
While others use public office to enrich themselves, I left an amazing life behind to go and fight for the American people.
And I'm glad I did it.
It hasn't been easy, but I'm glad I did it.
Sadly and pathetically, for the past six years, the radical Democrats and the fake news media have been trying to deceive the public about these simple facts.
Now, in an outrageous abuse of power, the Radical Democrat Congress illegally obtained and leaked my personal tax returns, which show only that I've had tremendous success.
It's been an amazing period of time.
The seizure of these confidential records was completely unconstitutional.
There is no legitimate legislative purpose for their action.
And if you look at what they've done, it's so sad for our country.
It's nothing but another deranged political witch hunt which has been going on from the day I came down the escalator in Trump Tower.
Although these tax returns contain relatively little information and not information that almost anybody would understand, they're extremely complex.
The radical Democrats' behavior is a shame upon the U.S.
Congress.
This precedent must now be applied to the corrupt Democrats themselves.
The new Republican House should immediately obtain the financial records of Joe Biden and his entire criminal enterprise, because that's exactly what it is.
Biden is a corrupt politician who spent years selling out America all over the world, including to Communist China.
Just take a look at his accounts.
Take a look at all of his homes.
And take a look at what his son, Hunter, has contributed to the family.
The American public deserves to know the truth.
We should also get to the bottom line on how Biden, on a salary of a U.S.
senator, was able to buy one mansion after another.
All these different locations.
When I'm president, we will expose the Washington cartel, and we will make America great again.
unidentified
Man, oh man, Christmas came a couple of days early.
steve bannon
Have I been waiting for that one?
Has War Room Posse been waiting for that?
By the way, the only small, tiny flaw in that entire thing is Donald J. Trump is the President of the United States.
Boris Epstein coming out like he's the best and taking on the apparatus.
The key point is that he was a billionaire that had an incredible career.
Stepped out to save like Cincinnati's coming back from the plow to save his country.
Joe Biden is a product of the system has done nothing else.
You have an outsider outside the system, and this is why he must be destroyed.
And now they understand that it's bigger than Trump, that Trumpism itself has to be destroyed.
At all costs.
They will trample the Constitution.
They will do anything.
And it's not just simply radical Democrats.
This omnibus, everybody flipped over their cards.
We see exactly what it is.
That's okay.
We've seen exactly what it is.
It is the uniparty apparatus with the administrative state, the Federal Reserve, Wall Street, the globalists all coming against a populist nationalist outsider leader like Donald J. Trump, Boris Epstein.
boris epshteyn
Steve, it's an honor to be here right after the video.
President Trump going full on vintage powerhouse on Joe Biden, on their criminal enterprise, the Biden crime family, and calling them out for exactly what they've done, which is suck the blood out of the American people and enrich themselves.
That is what the Biden family has done.
That's what they've done by building mansion after mansion after mansion.
Joe Biden, you know, the addict.
And hey, God bless him and hope he gets himself fixed up so he doesn't get to trade on America and enrich himself.
Hunter Biden has been enriching himself his whole life on the backs of the American people.
So President Trump said, hey, you want to come after me?
Let's have a go.
You want to come after me?
Rock me like a hurricane.
Now I want to see every single piece of information, every document on the Biden crime family.
And that is a call to action.
To the Republicans who are about to take control of Congress, a call to action that they're mandated to take up.
They're mandated to get the Biden tax returns and release them to the world, just like the craven Democrats have now done to President Trump.
It didn't work for the Democrats.
It blew back on them.
I will guarantee you it'll work for the Republicans because the Biden crime syndicate has been using the American people to enrich themselves for decades.
steve bannon
And not simply enrich themselves.
Remember, they're compromised, financially compromised.
They sold us out to the greatest existential threat we've ever had.
The Chinese Communist Party.
This is the greatest existential threat the nation's ever faced.
Worse than the Imperial Japan, Nazis, the Italian fascists, the Soviet Union, Kaiser Wilhelm, the Confederates.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
You pick them.
Plains Indians.
You pick any, any, the British.
In 1812, the British were trying to keep us.
You pick any enemy the nation's ever had.
The Barbary pirates in our front line.
Pick any enemy you want.
Pick it.
This is the greatest existential threat that we've had.
And the elites have sold the nation out.
And Biden's gotten his too.
Let me guess it.
Get some.
He got some.
Get some.
Right?
This is what it's about.
Ladies and gentlemen, you know, it's the Christmas season and we got to, you know, Contemplate and get into the Christmas and Hanukkah mood, I got that.
But I just want everybody to know that 2023, if you think it's been bad to date, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Because now both sides, and it's not a bridgeable gap, there's no negotiations here.
One side's gonna win, and one side's gonna lose.
And Trump just went back vintage, that was original OG Trump right there.
Right?
Laying it out as specifically as he can lay it out right now.
About exactly what this fight's about.
Boris, I love this.
There's an energy there.
There's a focus there.
There's a fight there that we've needed to see for a while.
But I got to tell you, if President Trump does that, we've got this.
And it's going to be hard.
This is going to be so much harder than 15-16.
I think you know that, Boris.
But this fight, you have to have.
The country's in the balance.
You can see this on the Omnibus.
You saw what they funded in this.
By the way, the Wall Street Journal, I'm going to get the guy on or I'll do it myself.
Thanks so much.
It is a biblical battle for the soul and the survival of our country.
trillion dollars it's not thirty trance a hundred three dozen walking through the math is that the country's and on a verge of a financial catastrophe and they don't care you know why cuz you're gonna be the burden of it not them boris uh... how do we get you and how do we can you get up to date with everything is going on and all the various things that you have that you're working on right now sir you think so much of the biblical battle for the soul of the survival of our country and that is why president trump has jumped in the fray and is running and it's going to win the white house for the third time
boris epshteyn
Yes, you heard me loud and clear.
Win the White House for the third time.
unidentified
Amen.
boris epshteyn
That is what we're focused on.
That's what we're going to get done.
I want to wish everybody, everybody a Merry Christmas to those celebrating a Happy Hanukkah and all the best in this holiday season.
But as Steve said, this is a time to contemplate, maybe rest for a couple of hours and then get ready for battle because that's what it's all about.
The website is hot.
BorisCP.com.
Hot on BorisCP.com.
Hot on Getter at BorisCP.
Now hot on Twitter at BorisCP.
Hot on Twitter and social at Boris.
Hottest on the ground.
Boris underscore Epstein.
Stay strong.
God bless.
Happy Hanukkah.
Merry Christmas and Shabbat Shalom.
steve bannon
As Rabbi Sparrow has taught us over the years that Hanukkah, the great nationalist fight of the Maccabees, now more than ever take the lesson of the Maccabees versus the globalist Greeks, right?
It's the Hellenic Greeks, right?
The Hellenic Greeks versus the Maccabees.
Now it's time more than ever to take that lesson of the Hanukkah season.
So thank you very much, Boris.
Appreciate it.
boris epshteyn
Thank you.
steve bannon
OK, I want to bring in Michael Benz.
Michael, thanks.
And Michael, I want to get you up and talk about – you left us hanging with the – hey, the thing with Elvis Chan and the FBI is just a tip.
But I want to go back because you've been very – about Burisma and all the CIA, all that.
Because I want to tie it to, I'm getting next to Ukraine and the arms request of Ukraine.
Tell me about, you're saying these things were just at the, even in the Hunter Biden, we're just on the surface.
We're not down into the thing itself.
What do you mean by that?
mike benz
That's correct.
And again, my focus here is on digital freedom and restoring the golden age of the internet.
But these foreign policy issues and dynamics are central to understanding that story.
So you had this situation with the Hunter Biden laptop being censored in the run up to the 2020 election.
But there's a that's child's play compared to the actual scandal of censorship involving the Hunter Biden laptop network.
So you have Hunter Biden's relationship with Burisma, where he was receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars from this Ukrainian gas company, private gas company, essentially.
Now Burisma signed a cooperation agreement in January 2017 with the Atlantic Council.
For the Atlantic Council to secure deal flow for Burisma.
Now, Burisma was also sponsoring Atlantic Council events in Monaco and helping facilitate those Burisma deals.
Now the Department of Homeland Security then tapped the Atlantic Council in order to censor 22 million tweets about mail-in ballots, about early voting drop boxes, and about vote tabulation In the five months before the 2020 election, this would be the equivalent of the Department of Homeland Security deputizing the Trump Organization to censor Russiagate.
It was done at scale.
They banned entire narratives.
If you go to Foundation for Freedom Online, you'll see a list of what those banned narratives were, as well as a detailed compilation of the quantitative degree of censorship, because these people bragged about it in order to secure more donor funding in a 292-page tell-all report.
Which I break down in granular detail on Foundation Freedom Online.
steve bannon
Michael Benz brings the receipt.
Michael, just hang on one second.
I want to keep you for a couple of minutes on the other side.
I've got some New York Times big report today on the Ukraine about what was turned down and what we're demanding that they actually do.
We've got Ben Burquam on location in Maricopa County.
Talk about the trial.
unidentified
Dave Klemets joins us also on All The Voter Fraud.
All next, Kirk Bray, Michael Bay.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
steve bannon
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I'm a good we're going to go to Maricopa County here in a minute.
We got Ben Burkham.
I got a cold open about some of the highlights of the I think the perjury in the in the in the trial by the Maricopa County officials.
We've also got Dave Clements.
I want to make sure everybody knows I think over Grace Chung on her getter feed.
We are streaming the Abe Hama day.
I think his hearing right now that the I think we had 34 35,000 people on the stream we did yesterday of the Cary Lake in addition to everything else we were doing.
So I want to, I know people appreciate it.
We're going to try to get these streams up so you can get it and maybe juxtapose and handle a couple things at the same time.
We have to multitask here in the War Room.
One of the reasons we have to multitask, I was talking about the omnibus and the scale of what is going on here, just so you're fully aware of the battle space.
Michael Benz, just repeat, it's so Incredible.
But you've got the receipts.
This is the power of Ben's, who's a brilliant guy, knows digital, fighting for digital freedom, taking us back to the golden age of the internet and a tough, smart-minded lawyer and part of the Trump administration.
Just repeat what you just said because – and I want you to define what the Atlantic Council is.
I think a lot of people think the Atlantic Council is some – think tank or you know some of some of these guys come together for a conference and maybe Kissinger comes in for a speech.
Tell me, just repeat what you just said about Burisma and what was organized about the, for a Ukrainian gas company, what was happening in the 2020 presidential election in the United States of America?
mike benz
The Department of Homeland Security deputized a Burisma lobbyist to censor tens of millions of social media posts about the 2020 election.
100% 100% of their targets by their own 292 page report, 100% of so-called repeat misinformation spreaders were conservatives, were Trump supporters.
They censored 22 million tweets.
They databased 860 million tweets.
They go through the entire 15 different platforms, 120 different staffers.
The Atlantic Council has seven living former CIA directors currently serving on its board.
Just so you know their names, it is Michael Hayden, James Woolsey, Leon Panetta, David Petraeus, Michael Morell, William Webster, and Robert Gates.
And to that list you can add Porter Goss, who just joined Chris Krebs's new censorship venture.
Chris Krebs was leading the VHS censorship division at CISA.
So that's eight.
Many people don't know eight living Eight former CIA directors are still alive, let alone all concentrated in the same locus, deputized to censor the 2020 election.
Now, the Atlantic Council signed a formal collaboration agreement with Burisma to secure deal flow there, especially in eastern Ukraine, the exact target region implicated in the post-2014 strife.
I can go on and on about this, but I'll pause there if you want to ask any questions.
steve bannon
No, no, no.
In fact, I want to save and get to the FBI thing later, because I want to do it in more depth.
But in today's New York Times, it's all about what the real meeting was.
It wasn't going to Congress.
That was to kind of hype and get sympathy with the American people.
It's the massive arms request to go offensive war against the Russians.
Battle tanks, fighter jets, long-range missiles that get inside of Russia.
And remember, this is the same exact crowd that President Trump was impeached about.
It's part of a whole cloth and we're going to break it down bit by bit because this is going to roll into 2023 and 2024.
It's not going to go away.
And you've got to understand systemically what it is.
So we're going to break it apart in, uh, in pieces.
I think what I want is the homework assignment as people, we're going to start putting up to get into your reports.
People are best, the war room is best, uh, when they, when they can immerse themselves in the level of detail that you provide.
Michael, the name of your Institute, again, your organization and how do people get there?
I want to get it up on the screen and I want to get it up on get her later and all our social media to post.
Where do people go and how do they follow you?
mike benz
So we are the Foundation for Freedom Online.
We're at foundationforfreedomonline.com.
That's one word.
And you can follow me on Twitter at MikeBenzCyber.
All one word.
steve bannon
Benz, just the last thing you said, you left us hanging with the FBI and Elvis Chan and what you're seeing at Twitter is just the surface.
What you're saying is you're going to be able to present, you've done reports, done studies, but that what we're seeing like with the CIA report on a Daily Mail did yesterday at Facebook, where there's like thirty-five Former CIA officers, agents that are employed by Facebook.
And you've got the Elvis Chan and you've got the FBI.
You're saying that is just absolutely the surface.
That it's so deep and endemic.
It's systematic and structural.
And you'll be able to walk us through that about how they've taken over the internet.
Is that basically your theory of the case?
mike benz
Yes, what was shown in the Twitter files is table stakes.
I mean, that's not even getting to level one of this scandal.
I mean, this really is perhaps the greatest scandal of the U.S.
government of the 21st century.
steve bannon
I think this is going to make Watergate and all this other stuff look like sideshows.
By the way, when you add the biomedical security state and the suppression of that, you're going to see something that the American people are going to have to say, hey look, I'm either prepared to live with it or we need to live as free men and women.
Michael Benz, thank you so much and thank you for all the hard work you're doing.
mike benz
Thanks for having me, Steve.
Have a great day.
steve bannon
Michael Benz.
I want to make sure we get that up.
So right over the holidays, gets into the details, goes, goes, sees the receipts that Michael Benz has.
We have a cold open for Ben Burcombe.
I want to play the cold open about Maricopa County.
I'll get, I'll get back into the Ukraine a little while, but Ben Burcombe's got to bounce here shortly.
Let's play the cold open and bring Ben in.
unidentified
So I want to go back to the earlier question about the 19 inch ballot image.
Being placed on a 20 inch paper.
Did you hear of any reports of that occurring in the 2022 general election?
I did not.
What I recall from yesterday's questioning was that there was a 19 inch definition, which that did not occur.
Ballot definition.
So if your testimony reflects my question or strike that if the back and forth between our question and answer.
Shows me asking you specifically about a 19 inch ballot image being printed on a 20 inch piece of paper.
You are now saying that you interpreted that as a ballot definition issue?
Yes, that's correct.
And you wouldn't think it would be relevant, even in that circumstance, to say, hey, we learned about this fit-to-print issue.
Did you know about the fit?
When did you learn about this fit-to-print issue?
When we started doing the audit reconciliation of those door three ballots, we identified some of those ballots had then a fit-to-paper issue.
And when was that?
I don't remember the exact dates, but a few days after election day.
Does that mean you lied in 2020 during the audit?
Does that mean you lied about the 2020 election issues?
ben bergquam
Was it a lie of omission or commission?
chip roy
Scott, why are you running from us?
You were so brazen on your stand in there.
Why are you running?
ben bergquam
Scott, did you know the question yesterday?
Were you coached by legal counsel to tell the truth today?
unidentified
Scott, how do you boldly lie like that?
chip roy
Scott Jarrett, what's going on?
unidentified
No answer.
chip roy
No answer.
boris epshteyn
You're with Ben Burquam from Real America's Voice.
chip roy
This is Jordan Conradson with the Gateway Plumbeer.
unidentified
Scott Jarrett, elections director of Maricopa County.
ben bergquam
Running from the answer.
On the stand, sorry, catching my breath, the guy tried to hide.
We caught up with him.
unidentified
Actually, we were walking out of the building.
He ran away from us.
ben bergquam
Yeah, he tried to run the other way.
boris epshteyn
I'm not leaving yet.
ben bergquam
And then realized there's only one way out.
So he, uh, this is the same thing though.
Katie Hobbs, she will, she's running.
They don't want to answer the question.
unidentified
Katie Hobbs was supposed to show up today, wasn't she?
ben bergquam
Katie Hobbs was supposed to?
Well, Bill Gates, it's the same thing.
Stephen Richer?
None of them.
They're a bunch of cowards.
unidentified
They are.
ben bergquam
They won't answer the questions.
unidentified
Stephen Richer's in Panama.
What's he doing there?
ben bergquam
Probably helping illegals come up through the Darien Gap.
Invade our country.
Now that, you know, if Katie Hobbs, if they steal, if they get the steal, the state of Arizona will be owned by the cartel.
That's right.
unidentified
That's why Doug Ducey's taking down the walls right now.
Shame on Ducey.
ben bergquam
Shame on Ducey.
boris epshteyn
Well, what a day.
unidentified
Back to the courtroom, right?
ben bergquam
Back to the courtroom.
Real news, baby.
Let's go.
steve bannon
Okay, we're bringing in Ben Burquam now.
Tell our audience, maybe those that didn't get into the details, Scott Jarrett, what he said, did he perjure himself?
Is that the claim that you and Jordan Conradson, a gateway punter, are making?
Ben Burquam?
ben bergquam
Yeah, it's even worse than that, Steve.
He not only perjured himself, he admitted yesterday, which was breaking news, that not only did this happen in 2020, excuse me, well let me back up first.
Day one, he was asked by Kurt Olson, what would you say if you heard that 19-inch ballot images were printed on 20-inch ballots?
And he said that wouldn't happen, that couldn't happen, and later on he said it would have been a failure, he was asked, followed up, would that be a failure by Maricopa elections?
And he said well that would be a mistake, but it wouldn't happen, it couldn't happen.
Day two, clearly he had been coached, he came in and started talking about these fit to print, shrink to fit, fit to page made all these different terms basically saying and the excuse for why this happened the the thing that he said Couldn't have happened the day before and then at the end of his testimony said oh, yeah And by the way, it happened in 2020 in the general election and in the primary which they had not admitted until yesterday So clearly they knew this was a problem. It's it's so it's
steve bannon
even worse than perjuring himself day one. This is a cover-up But tell us why this is this is a big deal and then tell us your general thoughts of where you think we stand The judge has got the, he's going through the trial transcripts right now to come to his decision.
I happen to think he'll make it today before Christmas.
I don't think he'll kick it in and wait until next week.
He might, he's got five days.
But I think I would be very surprised if he didn't make it this afternoon.
What are your thoughts about the trial overall?
ben bergquam
Well the reason it's important is this was, they had to prove that it was intentional.
That the changes, that the fiasco, that the disaster that we saw on November 8th was intentional with the printers, the tabulators.
And what this proves is it was intentional.
Now whether there was malice behind it, it took somebody doing that fit to print, shrink to fit, whatever term you want to use, onto those ballots.
It means somebody did it.
Again, that shows intent.
The other thing that's key to this is at the end of the trial yesterday, even the defense team, even the attorneys for Maricopa County said, well, even if Runback, on a separate topic, even if Runback allowed their employees to insert ballots into the system.
Well, that really didn't matter as long as they were legal ballots.
Well, the whole point is, if they didn't go through the chain of custody, and that was the second count, if they didn't go through the chain of custody, those are invalid ballots.
So there were two really critical points that were brought up yesterday, that were proven yesterday, I believe, and throughout the last two days.
Really now, though, it comes down to the judge, as you mentioned.
The one thing that wasn't included in this would have been the icing on the cake, the signature verification.
I think either way, this thing's going to the state Supreme Court and then ultimately to the federal Supreme Court.
And it's up to the judge.
From what I've seen as a layman watching this, there's no question about it, the election was stolen.
What happened on November 8th, there's no way you can certify that election with the disaster of what happened on November 8th.
I think the judge knows that as well.
The question is, with the death threats that he's been receiving and everything else, will he be the first judge in America to have the courage to stand up and say what every other American knows, that the Democrats have been stealing elections.
And I think you're probably right.
steve bannon
He has five days.
ben bergquam
I think it'll be sooner than that.
And Terry's just praying that he makes the right decision.
steve bannon
We'll take a short break.
unidentified
Ben Burke on this.
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Ben Berquam, Doocy, yesterday starts to take down the performative, the performative Mack truck trailers, right, that he put up his wall when he had all these years and did it after the election to show, to like position himself for his Senate run that, you know, I was really tough on the border.
I didn't do anything in my two terms as governor, but I'm really tough on the invasion of the border.
The Biden administration, it shows you how much they want an open border.
They sue him.
Even these things, just like some temporary barrier, they sue him and he folds like a cheap suit immediately.
He's down there right now in humiliation.
This is like the definition of cuck, right?
To be able to, down there with Biden said, oh, we're going to take you to court.
And he goes down and he's taking down that phony barrier.
Ben Burquam.
ben bergquam
So pathetic.
So pathetic.
First off, Democrats, Joe Biden, they're traitors to our country, what they're doing on our southern border.
They have committed treason.
They've broken their oath to our Constitution.
They need to be removed from office because of that.
But you have weak, pathetic, inept politicians like Doug Ducey, who's really just part of the old McCain cabal.
He was also running against Kerry Lake.
I think part of the reason he did it right now is so that Katie Hobbs, if she gets away with the steal, which I don't believe she will, if she does though, they don't want her to be the one that has to do it because it'll show that she's open borders, she's owned by the cartels, which is exactly what she is.
But the sad reality is, so is Ducey.
It's absolutely pathetic.
And what's such a shame, and all of this that we're seeing, the fraud in Arizona, The reason that they came after Carey Lake, the reason that the cartels came after Carey Lake and the fraud was so big in Arizona is because they know Carey Lake is the death sentence for them.
That's why they're coming after, that's why the establishment's coming after, the Democrats and the Republican rhinos and the cartels.
steve bannon
And, you know, Ronald McDaniels on Fox, dumping on Carrie Lake for not reaching out to the McCain.
Hey, there's 10 or 15 percent of the establishment that's just not going to vote for Maggie.
And here's the reason, they're globalist.
Just because they say they're Republicans and registered Republicans, they want tax cuts.
Look at what, on Kudlow, look at what they were whining about on the omnibus, Mike Lee and Kudlow.
What were they whining about?
Were they whining about all the left-wing organizations are funding or this massive unpaid-for more spending?
It's insidious, but they put some tax creases in there.
All these people care about is economics.
through the worst thing. You know what they're up there on Kudlow crying about, get the big tears? This guy's got some tax, it's insidious but they put some tax creases in there. All these people care about is economics. All they care about is they want to pay as little taxes as possible and have as much.
deregulation as possible so they can make as much money as possible. They're totally and completely amoral. And here's the thing. They don't mind if the left puts all these terrible programs in. They don't mind if we're funding all these left-wing NGOs because they're open borders guys. Biden's going to make the case to drive down inflation. You need mass immigration and that crushes the black and Hispanic working class. The McCain business and real estate community and people said the quiet part out loud, a lot of
it driven by cartel money.
The cartel is money laundering their cash to Arizona real estate.
It's all indestructibly linked, and it's all a long con.
Okay, so you can't sit there, and Ronald McDaniel said that you should play to, she should play to, no.
The reason she couldn't play to him was not about the election.
This is why people miss the beating heart of her campaign.
The reason they're not is those are all open border.
The McCain was open borders.
They're all open borders.
All open borders.
They want as many illegal aliens here as possible for cheap labor.
Also to pump up the real estate market.
All of it.
All for economics, not for their country.
Carrie Lake's number one thing was about declaring an invasion of the southern border.
No governor's done that.
Abbott, that's all performative down there.
She was going to name the cartels a terrorist organization, and Carrie Lake was going to take the wood to them.
If Ronald McDaniel not to understand that, and to sit there and trash, maybe we should come out?
No!
Just because they call themselves Republicans doesn't mean that we're together.
It's an unbridgeable gap between that.
We're populist nationals.
We believe in the sovereignty of this nation.
What Ducey did just shows you what a clown he is.
He's a clown, right?
And they hold him up such a... He's a clown.
They put those tractor-trailers up there at the very end and then after the election, they put some more up so when he runs for the Senate, he can sit there and show the video, he got it.
unidentified
And then as soon as they go, boo, he's down there taking them down.
steve bannon
It's the definition of cuck.
Okay, when you open it now, the Funkin' Wagonel, the picture will be Ducey's picture.
Ducey's photo.
Uh, Burquam, how do we, how do we, uh, how do we track you down?
What are your coordinates in, uh, in following you over the Christmas holidays, sir?
ben bergquam
Well, I'm finally getting to go home to my family for Christmas.
I gotta give a shout-out to Art, Patriot Art out here.
He's part of the posse.
He was watching this this morning, came out to say hi.
Doesn't want to go on camera, but huge shout-out to Art from Mesa.
We love you, brother.
FrontlineAmerica.com, AmericasVoice.news, and then my social media, at Ben Burquam.
Last name is B-E-R-G-Q-U-A-M.
Merry Christmas, because that's what we say.
We believe in Jesus.
Merry Christmas to America.
God bless you, sir.
And the best, as President Trump says, the best is yet to come.
We're just beginning the fight.
steve bannon
Yeah, Merry Christmas, Ben.
Obviously, we're going to be live next week.
I really want to thank the Real America Voice, Rob Sigg, his tremendous son, Parker.
Rob, I can tell you right now, just toss the keys, Parker's got it.
He's got this, okay?
What you guys did, Ben, down at Turning Point, The coverage, the livestream coverage, putting stuff up, it's just incredible.
Best TV network in America.
And punches way above their weight.
Ben Berkwan, thank you.
Okay, short break.
Got Dave Clements, got Darren Beattie, got Dave Walsh.
Are you gonna freeze or is the grid gonna work?
All of it, a lot of it, and more of it, next, after a 90-second break in the War Room.
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