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Battleground EP 178: The Chaos Of Maricopa
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mike davis
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vaughn hillyard
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
all this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room, Battleground, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
nicolle wallace
...stands or sort of the state of Carrie Lake's disinformation is she stands still a very, very decent chance. She's very much still in this.
vaughn hillyard
Right, when Sim was actually here at the tabulation center with me yesterday, I know that he could feel the tension that was in the room.
He could feel the tension that was in the room.
And largely that was because, you know, you have the likes of Chairman Bill Gates, you have Recorder Richard here.
These are the elections folks here who have overseen these elections.
Fair, accurate ones.
Not only in 2020, but now here.
They have been at the center of threats.
They have been at the center of harassment.
They have been at the epicenter of everything that Trumpism, Donald Trump and his allies leaving phone calls and voicemails for him to pressure them to help overturn the 2020 election.
And now, yet again, they're at the center of this.
And that is where, when we were in the room yesterday, I think there was some tension and frustration over the slow release of the ballots.
Well understandable, and there's no reason to suggest that it is for nothing other than to make sure that it's secure, and that each of the mail ballots were in fact sent in by individuals who go by the name on that ballot.
But what happens as a result is exactly what you guys were speaking about, is when you have that open space and that open air, it's folks like Carrie Lake that go and fill that void there, that call into question, why is this slow walking?
Why is this taking place?
Mark Fincham, I don't urge people to go to his Twitter account, but my goodness.
Every hour, you come up with a new conspiracy theory.
His latest this hour was suggesting that why does the Republican state treasurer candidate, Kimberly Yee, have 215,000 more votes than any of the statewide candidates?
Well, I can tell you, as somebody who has been covering Kimberly Yee for years, She's walked much more of a straight-line, Doug Ducey-type conservative role here, and it wouldn't surprise most folks who have covered here politics.
But, for Mark Fincham, he goes and tells his hundreds of thousands of followers who are following him on, whether it be Twitter or far-right elements of the internet, that there's a conspiracy, and that the folks here behind me who are simply going and adjudicating and making sure that these ballots are legitimate, and this nice woman here who is putting in the ballots into the tabulation machine, are some part of a conspiracy.
And there is nothing to suggest that.
And that is where the hope is, at some point here, that we are able to close that void there.
Because in the meanwhile, it's these folks who are creating these conspiracy theories as we speak.
nicolle wallace
Vaughn, I know you're getting pulled, but let me just ask you one question.
Can, you know, these are the same people who had eternal patience for the frauded, you know, the, uh, what were they called?
Cyber ninjas took weeks and months.
They were Trump's allies.
They were from Florida.
They had no experience.
They weren't from Arizona.
They had lots of patience for that.
I want to, if you could just, for our viewers who are not hostage to any of the disinformation, but just explain what the process is.
What exactly are election officials doing?
What does the count look like?
vaughn hillyard
Yeah, also to give you an idea here, it was this last state legislature that came within one vote of arresting the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors because they refused to turn over the ballots to the gang that was completing that so-called audit here.
But the process that is underway here Number one, their signature verification process.
So all these mail ballots, especially those 290,000 that were dropped off in person, they are going and comparing the signatures on the envelopes of the individuals, those voters who signed those envelopes.
They are then going against, whether it be the DMV database, whatever signature they have on file to confirm that that signature matches the one that is within the state records here.
We've also got the adjudication board, these folks here.
You've got a Republican and Democrat.
So if there is something wrong, there's a fold in the ballot, a spill, ink that goes outside of the lines, a Republican and a Democrat are going ballot by ballot to go and confirm that these ballots are legitimate and what the intent was.
There's also the curing process.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome.
We're in Battleground, Friday, 11 November, the Year of the Lord 2022.
Armistice Day in Europe, Veterans Day here in the United States.
I want to welcome and have everybody, all the veterans.
A hat tip to all of you guys.
A hat tip to maybe get Captain Bannon on, maybe in the second part of the show, talk about Veterans Day with her.
We've got a lot to go through.
I've got Joe Kent in a minute.
I want to play another cold open for Joe, so if he can just hang on, he's going to give us an update, which is going to infuriate a lot of this audience.
But we've got a cold open for Joe that I also want to talk about, about this huge fight for leadership.
There's so much going on right now.
But I want to bring in the political director for Carrie Lake's team, Brady Smith.
Brady, thank you very much for joining us.
I want to play that clip.
We actually played it in the previous hour because they make it seem like, you know, you guys are instigators, you guys are insurrectionists, you guys are domestic terrorists.
What is really going on here?
You guys just want an accurate count, but I think you'd like things sped up, correct?
unidentified
Thanks for having me on, Steve.
Yeah, absolutely.
We are just wanting all legal votes to be counted in this race.
It's crucial that we do this and make sure that all legal votes were counted.
You know, this pace is slower than we were anticipating.
Originally, we were told these same-day drop-offs in Maricopa County were going to be coming in As early as Thursday, potentially as early as Wednesday, and now here we are sitting on Friday, and the Maricopa County Recorder's Office is having a press conference currently.
I'm sitting in the Cary Lake War Room right now.
We're watching it unfold, and they are saying that there is going to be a drop tonight that will contain some of those same-day drop-off votes that will be very favorable to Cary Lake.
say that's going to be the majority of the drop, as well as the 17,000 door 3 votes that have been largely in question and that there are questions still swirling around.
But our campaign is just wanting every legal vote to be counted, and that's what we're committed to having happen.
steve bannon
I want to hold you.
And by the way, if we can see if we can watch on the live stream, the press conference, maybe we could pick that up and bring it up.
unidentified
Let's play.
steve bannon
I want to play it.
Brady, just hang on right there.
Political director for Cary Lake.
We got a lot more questions to ask him as a press conference going on Maricopa County.
There are a lot of moving pieces all over the nation.
Joe Kent.
Let me get bringing Joe first.
I want to ask him a couple of questions and then I'll go to the cold open.
Joe.
We've heard some news today that yours is actually going slower than we thought.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Am I hearing now that we're not going to get a drop anymore today in Washington 3?
We're not going to get one tomorrow, Saturday.
We're not going to get one Sunday.
And we're not going to get one Monday until 6 p.m.
Pacific Standard Time.
Am I correct in that?
unidentified
Well, we just got a small drop, actually, right after I texted you that news.
We got a small drop from Cowlitz County.
I am now only down by 1.93%.
We took 57.5% of the last drop.
It was less than 5,000 votes since they dropped, but it helps.
We think there may be another drop coming tonight of 20K coming from the county.
Now, the Secretary of State, they did take the holiday off, and they're not gonna report anything until Monday, so you're correct in that.
We may get Clark County might go ahead and report on their own website tonight.
But that's the status right now.
There's still 50,000 votes out there.
So hopefully they actually dropped 20,000 tonight and we'll have a little bit more clarity.
So we're only down right now by 5,000 votes.
steve bannon
And by the way, you've cut this thing dramatically over the last couple days.
We had Alex DeGrasse on the last hour, and there, I think, in the team at least, in the NRCC, they're actually counting you as a win.
On the 20,000 that come in tonight, tell our audience, where is that coming from, and do you consider a break of 57% to be a possibility, or 55-45?
unidentified
We're hoping to take, you know, 56, 57 percent of that.
Now, that's Clark County.
That's our urban hub, Vancouver.
There's also some rural parts of Clark County as well.
We believe this is mostly going to be game day voters.
So, you know, fingers crossed, knock on wood, that this should trend heavily towards us.
But, you know, we'll stand by and see what happens.
Ballot curing is going to be really key.
steve bannon
Ballot curing.
And walk people through that process.
What's this process called, ballot curing?
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
People need to go to all my social media, Joe Kent 158 and 19, or go to wavote.gov and check the status of your ballot.
If it doesn't say accepted and it says rejected, then you need to go down to the county auditor's office, present ID, and you can get your ballot sorted out right there.
Don't wait for them to contact you because they may drag their feet on that process.
So all my social media has that.
If people have any questions, they can get ahold of us and we'll talk them through.
We can give them a ride down to the county auditor's office if they need.
steve bannon
So it looks like a 20,000 ballot drop tonight.
You're at 1.93% behind.
You've been as high as I think almost five and a half, 5.6, 5.7.
This has been dropping pretty dramatically.
You're under 5,000 votes difference between you and your opponent.
unidentified
That's right, Steve.
Like, right at 5,000 is the difference between us, 1.93, so under 2%.
So we're definitely making ground with every drop.
steve bannon
Okay, fine.
And do you have any idea when the timing of this drop tonight?
unidentified
We don't.
Sometimes they come as early as 4, and then sometimes they're as late as 8.30 out here on the West Coast time.
So I'll ping you as soon as we get any word.
steve bannon
Just ping me, and once again, what's your social media so people can follow this?
Because we have hundreds of thousands that are watching your progress here.
unidentified
JoeKent16, J-A-N-1-9 on Twitter, Gitter, on all the different social medias.
That's where you have screenshots to all the ways to cure your ballot.
JoeKent4Congress.com is our website.
We've got ballot curing teams out there right now.
I've got a Marine Corps vet.
I've got several Navy vets.
I've got an Army West Pointer out there knocking on doors, ballot curing for us right now.
JoeKent4Congress.com.
We need every penny to keep those guys moving and also so we can lawyer up.
steve bannon
Joe, if you just give me another minute, I want to play a quick cold open, because you're actually coming back for the orientation over the weekend, and this is one of your colleagues.
I just want you to hear what she had to say, and I just want to get your reaction to that.
Go ahead and play it.
john roberts
You do, in terms of the economy, but she said, I hope there won't be two years of investigations.
Where do you come down on that aspect?
unidentified
We have to do the right thing, right?
We have to lead by example.
What's best for the country?
I think we've really gotten off track, and we've seen that.
And that's why voters came out, especially in Virginia, in our second district, because they weren't happy with the direction of things.
And we heard that time and time again at the doors, you know, something is off, something is not right with the country.
How can we work together?
It's going to be a unified effort, but Republicans are going to need to be unified, especially in the U.S.
House.
I think we'll have a slimmer majority than we may have hoped, so it's going to be really important that that messaging going forward of, you know, how can we help where people need the help, which is in the economy and at the border in our communities, you know, how are we going to be unified?
john roberts
If I could, on the issue of investigations, would you support House investigations of Hunter Biden?
unidentified
So what I'm focused on are the issues that, why we won.
Why we won in this district was because of the economy, because we really sought to tell people, hey, we're going to help you.
We're going to be able to put more money in your pocketbook and lower those gas and grocery prices.
And that's where my focus is.
The economy, the border, and our communities and families.
That's where my focus has been and will continue to be.
john roberts
Congresswoman-elect Jen Kagan, it's good to talk to you.
Thank you so much.
We will see you here in January.
steve bannon
Joe Kent, your whole campaign was about the economy, families, the border, the invasion of the southern border, all of it.
Do you think that Congress can walk and chew gum at the same time?
Do you think you also have your oversight responsibilities and investigations, particularly into the laptop from hell, the southern border, Fauci, all this?
Do you think that's also a responsibility of Congress when you show up as a freshman congressman, sir?
unidentified
Absolutely.
There's plenty of us to walk and chew gum at the same time.
Yeah, we're going to get the economy under control.
I mean, Jim Banks was on here yesterday talking about H.R.
1 getting us back to being energy independent.
That will benefit the American people almost immediately.
We're going to stop the out-of-control spending.
That's a given.
This omnibus nonsense.
Well, yeah.
We are also going to go after this corrupt regime.
We're going after the laptop from hell.
We're going to impeach Biden for what he did in the southern border.
We're impeaching Mayorkas, A.G.
Garland.
That's what the American people hired us for.
They hired us to stop what Biden is doing to the country.
They hired us to actually get them some real information, some real results, and just absolutely adjudicate everything that's been inflicted upon us for the last Two plus years, even further if we go back and we're going to start going after Fauci as well.
But yeah, we can fight the hard fight of investigations, and we can fix the economy, we can fix the border, and we can protect our children all at the same time.
We have to, otherwise we don't deserve to be there.
steve bannon
Joe Kent, Fight On.
We're going to watch this very closely tonight on Getter and other places.
We'll be going live.
I know Charlie Kirk, Jack Krasovic, the War Room, Grace Chung, the War Room, Posse, Captain Ben and all of it.
Joe, Fight On.
We'll be watching it closely.
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay, Joe Kent, the fighting spirit of these people, particularly Kerry Lake and the team out in Arizona.
Let me go back to Brady Smith.
Brady, correct me if I'm wrong, they knew this was coming because for the first time in the primary you had this massive game day turnout.
They understand that Trump voters are different than voters historically in Arizona that have done by mail.
People have a lot of problem, trust in the mail-in ballot system, so it's a lot of game day voters.
Why were they not prepared for this onslaught of game day voting?
Both either people dropping off the ballots or just showing up and voting in person.
Why was Maricopa County particular?
Because we hear all the time from the mainstream media how great Bill Gates and his team are.
Why were they not prepared?
unidentified
Well, Steve, you're absolutely right that we did see the writing on the wall of this in the primary.
The game-day turnout was very large there.
The ballots, of course, broke very heavily for Cary Lake in the primary for those same-day drop-offs.
We're going to see the same thing again here, but to your question of why were they not prepared here, I think it just goes back to the incompetence that we see in the Maricopa County Recorder's Office.
We knew that there would be a large turnout of those same-day drop-off votes, and actually, We ended up breaking the previous record by 70%.
Now, I want to remind your listeners that in 2020, the same-day drop-offs in the 2020 election went favorable for President Trump by a 13% margin.
So these are going to break extremely heavily our way.
These are our voters, and these are people who do not want to place that mail-in ballot that they received at their address back into the USPS system.
They don't want to Take it to a Dropbox location.
They want to bring it into the Vote Center because they, you know, have some questions about the system.
And you and I both know that the gal running the system, Katie Hobbs, the Secretary of State of Arizona, was on the ballot.
So, of course they're not going to trust the system.
Of course they're going to watch these ballots in.
And to Maricopa County's under-preparedness, I think it really sheds a huge light that Bill Gates and Stephen Richard were not ready for this.
They were not prepared.
And that is resulting in delays that are frustrating not just Arizonans, but Americans all across the country.
steve bannon
The whole world is watching.
I mean you had, your campaign was run flawlessly but what blew me away and I told people because you had your advanced teams were guys from the 16 team for President Trump and the size of the crowds and the professionalism was unbelievable.
So they should have known something was coming because Kerry kept talking about, you know, and Mike Lindell, this whole theory that you wait and come, you vote on game day, you vote on election day.
But when this thing all went down, correct me if I'm wrong, I thought they told us by Friday it would all be sorted.
I know we promised other days, but they said it's all going to be done by Friday.
Wasn't that what they put out at first, sir, that Friday would be the day?
And now we know it is.
And I think they just said, I don't know what they're saying in the press conference right now, but they said the other day that, hey, we might even have the majority, we will have the majority of the Maricopa County done by Monday or Tuesday of next week.
So didn't they promise this would be wrapped up by today?
unidentified
They have insinuated that it's possible that this would be done by today.
This has been, you know, consistently, they're moving the goalpost.
And they have not given much color as to why the goalpost continues to move on this.
But Maricopa County has not given us a concrete answer on when they're going to be completely done counting the votes yet.
But we are going to see a chunk of those same-day drop-offs come in tonight.
They will favor Cary Lake, and we will see Cary Lake pick up votes in the drop that is going to come tonight, sometime in the 8 o'clock hour Arizona time.
steve bannon
8 o'clock Arizona time, that'll be 10 o'clock Eastern Standard Time.
Do you think that this is, you know, Steve Cortez, who watches this very closely, Steve Cortez said, this is to demoralize and exhaust The deplorables in the Carrie Lake movement.
It can't just be total incompetence, because they knew about it for two years, they were under a microscope, and Gates came up and said, hey, this is just the way we do things in Arizona, but they were supposed to take out the flaws and get down and be able to do it efficiently.
Do you think this is to demoralize and exhaust people?
Because people forget, in the primary, Carrie Lake was down I think by 10, 12, 13 points around 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock.
Local time.
And she was getting tremendous pressure from her opponent and from the political professionals.
And, you know, and these were national professionals on her team for Carrie Lake.
And you remember this, you were one of the people coming under pressure.
They were putting a tremendous pressure on you guys to concede when, when, when it looked like, you know, you're getting close to midnight and she's 10 down, but Carrie Lake was saying, no, no, no, no, no.
Like she said the other night, no, no, no, no, no.
This is going to flip.
And I think three or four o'clock in the morning, it flipped.
But they took their time and slow walking.
Carrie Lake, and people forget this, Carrie Lake won by five, five and a half percent on the primer and never really got full credit of that.
Are they trying to demoralize and exhaust you by drawing you out?
So Carrie Lake never gets her moment in the international media and Carrie Lake never gets that big moment where she walks on stage and takes this victory.
Carrie Lake never has a celebratory nature of this massive victory and they forgot, oh, it's so close.
The thing is, it's nail biter, nail biter, nail biter.
So if the votes come in, Like you guys analyzed, she wins by 5%.
She doesn't get that boost of the 5%.
Do you think there's some design to this more than just their regular incompetence, sir?
unidentified
Well, Steve, I would say I have not seen anything that would suggest that there is malice behind this delay here.
I've learned to never underestimate the incompetence, however.
It runs rampant.
Through the county, through the county recorder's office, but should that have been the case, which I am not insinuating that it is, I really don't think there's any actual malice or ill will intent in this delay, but even if it was, they're achieving the exact opposite, right?
This is just amplifying, you know, Kerry Lake is on every channel, everywhere you go, everyone's talking about this race, like you just said, though all eyes in the world are on Arizona right now, so I do not think there's malice behind this.
It comes down to underpreparedness and incompetence, but it has amplified and all eyes are on Arizona and all eyes are on future Governor Kerry Lake as a result.
steve bannon
Brady, a couple more questions.
Number one, when I went around and saw these crowds, and these were massive crowds, I mean, I was quite frankly blown away by the size and scale of this campaign for an off-year governor's race.
It was just extraordinary.
It was almost like presidential level.
Presidential level for anybody but Donald Trump.
I mean, any presidential candidate would have been blown away to have the scale and the size and the intensity of the crowds.
But they were peaceful, good people who waited for hours.
I mean, just decent, hardworking Americans.
When you see Maricopa County's tabulation center, they have, you know, a defense around it.
They have police officers on the roof.
They are putting out a thing that says they feel they're in danger.
Have you seen anything that even comes close to any people getting worked up, anything of danger, or anything that would have the reaction that the authorities in Maricopa County, the voting group, has put up around this tabulation center, sir?
unidentified
Well, you're exactly right, Steve.
The environment here, the enthusiasm on the ground amongst supporters, amongst voters in Arizona has been astronomical.
This is something that the state of Arizona has never seen before.
This is a campaign unlike anyone that's ever been ran in the country, quite frankly.
And no, you're also right that these are patriots that are coming out to our events.
There has been nothing to suggest the need for.
Amplified security like that.
I think it's fairly ironic that we see, you know, walls going up around the count center, but we still don't have a finished border wall.
So no, I have not seen any report suggest that there is any threat of violence or anything in that vein whatsoever to require amplified security.
steve bannon
Brady, how do people follow you guys over there?
We've had Carolyn on and obviously Kerry a lot of times.
We're trying to give her a rest because we know she's got to focus on different things in the transition and closing this deal.
So we've been really blessed.
To have people like yourself and Caroline, the staff she has around her, her senior advisors are just an incredible team.
How do people follow you on social media?
And walk me through the process that this audience that is, you know, in the millions that are Kerry Lake fans over the weekend, how does Brady Smith see this thing developing?
How they get access to your campaign team?
Where do they go?
Because people want to follow, they're following this minute by minute.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
You can follow me on Twitter at I, the letter I, the letter M, Brady Smith, B-R-A-D-Y Smith.
I would also suggest to your listeners to follow Landon Wall, our data guru, at LandonWall underscore.
We continue to put out updates as ballot drops come in to be able to contextualize things for the electorate and for folks who do not know the ins and outs of Arizona and what is to be expected in these individual drops.
You know, we're going to see, as these same-day drop-offs continue to come in, they are going to continue to move Republican way.
Cary Lake is going to continue to pick up votes, and we are going to win, Steve.
steve bannon
Brady Smith, thank you very much.
I want to say you're part of an extraordinary young team out there that people are hearing from worldwide right now.
What you have done and what you guys have created in really more than a campaign, you've created a movement in Arizona that's inspiring not just the nation, but it's inspiring the entire world.
I get contacts all day long from throughout the world about how you guys have supported yourself, obviously the poise in class of Kerry Lake, but the entire team, how you've comported yourself.
You people are unflappable and indefatigable, so just keep up the good work.
unidentified
Thank you very much, Steve.
Thanks for having me on.
Hope to be back on with you soon.
steve bannon
Brady Smith, Director, he's the Political Operations Chief over at Carrie Lake's team.
The team is very young, and Carrie Lake runs, you know, she doesn't have a pollster.
They have data people, but no pollster.
They don't have any big-time Washington consultants, none of the traditional Arizona consultants.
She refuses to do that.
She's not going to play the game.
Doesn't play, you know, not a big TV buy, not big media buyers.
This is probably As radical as the Trump primary campaign and the campaign in 16, which was just a campaign that was run very differently than any previous presidential campaign in one and I think the greatest come from behind political comeback in American presidential politics.
Carrie Lake, just extraordinary.
Remember, Carrie Lake has had, I think when it's all summed total, it's going to be $70 to $80 million dropped on her, almost all in negative ads.
Not about policy, but about she's a terrible person.
She's raised, I think, three and a half, three in the first part, maybe five, probably spent, let's say, eight to 10 against 80, outspent eight to one, nine to one, maybe 10 to one.
And poised for a very shocking victory, I think, in Arizona.
This is going to be a dog fight all weekend, through the weekend, through early next week out there, just like in Nevada.
So, hey, if you want entertainment, you're at the wrong spot.
If you want to hunker down and grind it out, you're in the right spot.
I'll tell you how much the right spots are.
I got a fighter coming up who's always just looking for a puncher's chance.
That's Mike Davis, next in The War Room.
unidentified
War Room Battlegrounds with Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
You know, welcome back.
Um, it's Veterans Day, Armistice Day in Europe, Veterans Day here.
11 November in the year of the Lord 2022, the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month is when the guns fell silent in Europe.
Uh, in the beginning of the armistice, the truce that led to the armistice and to the peace treaty in world war one, the war to end all world wars didn't quite work out like that.
Did it kind of kicked off the end of the Victorian era and the beginning of the bloodiest century in mankind's history.
Look, we've been intensely into the politics of all this, and we're getting in now to these leadership fights, the lame duck.
This is one of the most intense, and for the War Impostors that have been here from the impeachment days, three years ago when we started the show, impeachment and the pandemic.
Then the 2020 campaign and then the impeachment again and then everything with the Biden regime and shutting down leading up to the 22.
It's been one intense historic moment after the other.
The one only reason I and I love the politics and the combat of it and all that.
So we just love it, you know, win, lose or draw.
Of course, we like to win more than we lose or draw.
The only thing I don't like about it, Mike Davis, is I don't have Mike Davis on enough.
Mike Davis is Article 3.
He's the one that's going to lead to the tip of the spear to take apart the tech oligarchs.
Mike is also our guy that comes on about the Supreme Court and everything about the judiciary.
But Mike, in fact, I want to play a clip.
I just paid for Joe Kent.
A minute ago.
Joe is now in a real dogfight for his seat out in Washington III, and they're going to have another drop tonight.
Obviously, Maricopa County's going to have a drop.
We were going to actually be occupied.
I think we're going to be live, and we'll probably go up and get her, or over in the Charlie Kirk show when that comes up.
But we're talking about these leadership fights, and so I play this for Joe Kennedy, got his reaction.
I want to play it for you and get your reaction, and particularly your comments and observations about the leadership fight in the House.
Can I play this for a second for Brother Davis?
john roberts
You do, in terms of the economy.
But she said, I hope there won't be two years of investigations.
Where do you come down on that aspect?
unidentified
We have to do the right thing, right?
We have to lead by example.
What's best for the country?
I think we've really gotten off track, and we've seen that.
And that's why voters came out, especially in Virginia, in our second district, because they weren't happy with the direction of things.
And we heard that time and time again at the doors, you know, something is off, something is not right with the country.
How can we work together?
It's going to be a unified effort, but Republicans are going to need to be unified, especially in the U.S.
House.
I think we'll have a slimmer majority than we may have hoped, so it's going to be really important that that messaging going forward of, you know, how can we help where people need the help, which is in the economy and at the border in our communities, you know, how are we going to be unified?
john roberts
If I could, on the issue of investigations, would you support House investigations of Hunter Biden?
unidentified
So what I'm focused on are the issues that, why we won.
Why we won in this district was because of the economy, because we really sought to tell people, hey, we're going to help you.
We're going to be able to put more money in your pocketbook and lower those gas and grocery prices.
And that's where my focus is.
The economy, the border, and our communities and families.
That's where my focus has been and will continue to be.
john roberts
Congresswoman-elect Jen Kagan, it's good to talk to you.
Thank you so much.
We will see her here in January.
steve bannon
Okay, and to put it in context with Congressman Kiggins, or she's about to become Congressman Kiggins, is that she ran against Luria, and she took down the last of the real, the J6 people that were out there.
Luria's a rising star down in the Virginia Beach area.
I think Luria also went to the Naval Academy, was a Naval officer.
And put up some pretty mean tweets about me.
Not that I care, but just saying.
And she was beaten.
And one of the reasons that she won was to say that, you know, this January 16th was a waste of time.
The country's got big problems.
But that being said, Mike Davis, is this Is this, I don't want to call it a problem, but is this attitude that we just got to do, and yes, and I asked Joe Kent, he's all about the economy, he's all about the invasion of the southern border, he's all about the family.
These are his bedrock issues that's got him on the precipice of winning up in Washington III.
But is this the problem we've had with the controlled opposition Republican Party that they just don't want to get in there and do the hard work that is really required And the nation is demanding, and that's why they're giving the Republicans this majority, sir?
mike davis
Well, I think the Republicans in the House can walk and shoot gum at the same time.
They can have a positive agenda that they can sell to the American people, and they can also do aggressive oversight over the Biden administration.
There has to be aggressive oversight over Attorney General Merrick Garland and the Biden Justice Department.
They have completely politicized and weaponized the Justice Department against President Biden's political enemies.
At the Department of Homeland Security, we have the Department of Homeland Security not doing their job.
They're not protecting our border.
There is an invasion at our southern border, and people need to be held accountable for this.
And so, again, House Republicans can walk and shoot guns at the same time.
They can put forward a sharp contrast with the Democrats on how Republicans can govern while also doing very effective and aggressive oversight.
steve bannon
How is this going to play out?
And I realize you're a guy from really the Senate side with Grassley, and you were the Sherpa on many of the Supreme Court issues, and you've worked very close with McConnell's staff.
I'll talk about what's happening in the Senate in a second.
Pretty shocking.
These letters, what's going on over there, but these house fights is what she's talking about.
Is this the tension that's in this town?
And people should understand there's a lot of tension in Washington right now.
It's not about what the outcome will be.
be. They'll know it'll be either 219, 220, 221, 222, whatever, that it'll be a 5, 6, 7, 8 seat majority. But the tensions over leadership and these leadership votes and who's going to be the speaker and who's going to run the show, in a sense is, the question is, is that, is McCarthy and people around him tough enough and focused enough to do what needs to be done to really set things right here, particularly to confront, work with the
Biden administration where you can, but they're all sitting there.
Biden's going, I just had a big victory.
Maybe we can work with the Republicans.
They never talked about that before.
Or is it more of a confrontational?
Where do you, since you've been at really the tip of the spear in this whole thing about going after the tech oligarchs, and one of the things that you've complained about is that, hey, I've got a plan to really go confront these guys and we've got to, you know, we've got to be trust busters.
We've got to start taking them apart.
And your complaint has been, hey, these guys are playing foot, they talk big, but they're playing footsies with them and they're going to pass a couple of performative laws, but nothing's going to change.
So where do you come out in all this leadership fight and direction of the House?
That was such a, that was such a great question.
He just froze.
No, he didn't.
Mike Davis didn't freeze.
The computer froze.
Let's try to get him back up.
That was kind of brilliant.
Wasn't it?
Maybe I can ask that.
Maybe I can answer it this time.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
Just to put it in perspective, we're going to get Mike, try to get Mike back up for now.
Let's get him back by phone.
Not that I don't love seeing Mike's, uh, you can tell Mike's a fighter.
I think it's, I think it's the red haired Irishman that kind of gives it away that, uh, the, um, but here's what's going on.
So people understand this.
There is.
And this is what makes it so fascinating from a dramatic point of view.
It's obvious that these votes are being slow-walked, okay?
And I realize people are doing their jobs and trying to do their jobs, but you just have to question, given the fact that we knew about this, we knew things were going to happen, why is Nevada and Arizona taking so long, particularly in the fact that there were these problems before?
So the Associated Press has already notified.
They said, hey, we're not going to call the House.
To at least next Tuesday, when this leadership vote, the first round really takes place.
Not the speakership, but the leadership of the Republican conference.
They also said, hey, you know, it may take us in California, it may take us two or three weeks later.
Well, if you go back and look at Alex DeGrasse from the first hour of the show, hey, I'm counting up one, two, three, four, I'm counting up seven of the 15 seats they think they can pick up to go from 212 to 227.
Seven or eight of those seats are California.
They're saying right now, the Associated Press says, which is kind of the bellwether people go by, won't even be called for two or three weeks.
On the Senate side, we have Laxalt in Nevada right now.
There's going to be another drop tonight.
They're talking about it could take through the weekend, through Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, later next week.
All kind of fighting over there about Clark County and Washoe County.
You have Arizona, which we're going to get another drop tonight.
We just heard at 8 p.m.
Arizona time, that'll be 10 p.m.
Eastern time.
We don't know what's going to come over the weekend, but they've already said yesterday, and they change stuff every day.
There's even, he says, Bill Gates says they change the goalposts every day.
Move the goalposts.
This is his words, not mine.
They're talking about not even a majority of Maricopa County until Monday or Tuesday of next week.
So in all that, you're trying to have these leadership fights.
And here's what, let's just go to the heart of the matter.
And the war on posse is, and I've tried to play this as even-handed as we possibly can, because it's a debate that needs to be had.
Can you have business as usual?
And I think people look at Kevin McCarthy.
Whether they love him or hate him is that it will be more business as usual and can you do that?
Can you this mandate you're getting as small as it is and let's say it's a 15 seat pickup or a 12 13 seat pickup It gives you a majority Can you?
Actually get done what you need to get done Are you going to have the fights on the debt ceiling?
Are you going to have the fights on these omnibus appropriations bills?
Are you going to pass H.R.
unidentified
1?
steve bannon
Your H.R.
1 is going to be energy.
As Steve Cortez says, you ought to pass energy and border right out of the box and If you pass a full-spectrum energy dominance bill and Biden vetoes it, refuses to sign it, are you prepared to have Biden shut down the government in order to do that?
By the way, I'm fine.
I forget Dave is fine, but I can go ahead and roll on this forever.
I'm cooking with gas right now.
My producer is getting bored, so he says I ought to bring Mike Davis back in.
Do I have Mike Davis?
I have the puncher's chance, Mike Davis here.
So Davis, what is your beef?
You've been pretty critical of these guys up to date.
And even some of the heroes, like the Jim Jordans, you're saying they're not tough enough, they're not focused enough, this is all performative, we need to get in there.
And tear things apart.
We need to go after these tech oligarchs.
They're controlling the country.
They're shutting down people.
And we can give a lot of happy talk and talk about 230, but you're, you're dancing around the edges and you're making people feel good because you're on Fox and, and on, uh, and on CNBC talking about stuff, but it's all crap and you gotta be hard and you gotta be tough.
So what is your complaint in this leadership about taking over in this, this same group being in charge of the entire house of representatives, sir?
mike davis
So we've been talking about big tech for three years, and we hear Republicans making tough speeches and saying tough things about big tech, but we have to hold them accountable.
And there are bills working their way through the House and Senate right now, sponsored by Congressman Ken Buck, a conservative all-star from Colorado, along with Senator Chuck Grassley, my former boss from Iowa.
That will finally hold Big Tech accountable.
And you can go to the IAP.org slash war room and the war room posse can go look at those bills right now and they can see what bills could pass right now with bipartisan support in the House and the Senate and President Biden will sign these bills and we can finally hold Big Tech accountable.
So the time for talk is over.
It's time for action.
steve bannon
What about the overall, do you agree with the newly minted congressman from Virginia Beach that we should focus on the economy, we should focus on the border, we should focus on things and leave the investigation aside.
The laptop from hell, just stay away from it.
Anything to do with the DOJ and the FBI, just stay away from it.
It's going to be too confrontational.
It's going to be too, it's going to get the New York Times all riled up and the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post and you don't need a church commission.
You don't need to get into the National Security Apparatus or the CIA or really, not so much the deep state as the administrative state.
The deep states, they're more rogue element. You should stay away from that.
Do you agree with that or do you agree that we should be, use this time, effort and mandate to go for it?
mike davis
There needs to be aggressive oversight and we can walk and chew gum at the same time.
You can push a legislative agenda through committees, and you can push an oversight agenda through committees.
That's why we have committees in the House and committees in the Senate.
You can do both, and they need to do both.
They need to get to the bottom of the Biden corruption.
They need to get to the bottom of President Biden weaponizing, politicizing the Justice Department to go after his political enemies.
We need to hold DHS accountable for their total dereliction of duty on our southern border.
There's an invasion of our southern border.
This is intentional.
They're trying to import Democrat voters.
There needs to be aggressive oversight.
Heads must roll.
steve bannon
I know you're not for political impeachments, but you're saying if you do these investigations in the invasion of the southern border, if you do them on the laptop from hell with the CCP involvement, if you do investigations that have ranking members and minority counsel and they get to cross-examine witnesses and all that, if the fruits of that are things that could lead to impeachment, whether of Merrick Garland or Mayorkas or even going all the way up to Biden, that's the way you do it?
mike davis
Well, I mean, I'm not saying we need to move for impeachment immediately, but there certainly needs to be aggressive oversight.
And I know that Senator Chuck Grassley, whether he's the chairman of the Judiciary Committee or he's a ranking member of Budget committee or another committee, he's going to have a big staff and they're going to do oversight.
And I think the House Republicans need to do oversight.
There needs to be oversight.
They're going to be in the majority, a narrow majority, but they have a constitutional duty to do oversight of the executive branch and they need to do it.
steve bannon
Are you pretty shocked?
I understand you're close to the McConnell guys as you should be.
McConnell's done, you know, people should say what they want.
Look, I'm no fan of his and he's less of a fan of mine.
But on the judges, he's done a terrific job of getting these judges approved and these are conservative judges.
And look at the Supreme Court, just a Herculean effort.
of what's happened there, and that's quite frankly saved the nation in the gap.
And there's many more big things to come in this session, whether it's affirmative action, whether it's the independent state legislatures, whether it's more things about the administrative state.
But I'm kind of, I am actually kind of shocked that you've had a couple of, with this fight, and there's a big fight in the House.
You got the Freedom Caucus guys saying, hey, Kevin McCarthy spent $40, $50 million taking out Caroline Leavitt, taking out Sabatini in Florida, trying to make Anna Paulina Luna go away, Joe Kent and dozens, you know, lots of others.
And that money should have been spent on making sure Caroline Leavitt won and Joe Kent won bigger and Lauren Boebert won.
And so they're fighting.
Freedom Caucus is saying, hey, we can't do it.
There's X amount of members.
So that's a big fight there.
I'm kind of surprised at these letters.
I'm kind of surprised, particularly like guys like Rubio and people like that that are not normally known.
So now you got Josh Hawley.
You've got Mike Lee.
You have Marco Rubio.
You have Rick Scott.
You have others.
And they go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Maybe we slow down this leadership vote also next week and just wait to see how things play out and particularly know if we're in the minority and majority.
Is that strike you as pretty stunning, given Mitch McConnell's total grasp on power in the Senate?
mike davis
Well, I mean, it doesn't hurt to have a discussion about leadership, and I don't think anyone should be scared of a discussion about leadership.
At the end of the day, I think they're going to see that the Senate Majority Leader has a tough job.
Their job is to herd cats, and these are unruly, undisciplined cats called U.S.
it's very hard to hurt them.
And when you're trying to hurt 50 cats as the minority leader or the majority leader, it's a tough job.
It's a thankless job.
And so there are a lot of things that Mitch McConnell has to do, not because he agrees with it, but because he has to keep these unruly cats in line in order to be the majority leader or the minority leader.
So I think people just need to take a deep breath.
Let's get through the next couple weeks.
Let's see what happens in Georgia.
I think Herschel Walker is going to win that race.
We could see Adam Laxalt winning in Nevada and we might have a Republican majority when this all ends.
steve bannon
Mike, you've been with The War Room now for over a year as one of our big contributors on all the stuff legal.
Do you believe that we have a moral responsibility and really a mandate from the American people, particularly in the House, to really make things happen and to really confront this regime, this administration, and make sure we had not just full investigations, but also use the appropriations process?
And like, you know, Steve Kortes has passed an energy bill immediately.
And if they don't, you know, be prepared to have Biden shut down the government.
Others are saying secure the southern border.
If he's not prepared to do it, let him shut down the government.
Use appropriations.
Do you believe we have that mandate?
And if we don't use it, the American people will take it back in 2024?
mike davis
To be aggressive oversight, we need to draw sharp contrast with the Biden administration.
Remember, Biden's not popular.
The Democrats are not popular.
Republicans won by more than six They won by more than six points across the country.
It just happens that the Democrats were able to prevent this giant...
Tsunami because they just, I think they did a better job on the ground.
We need to do a better job on our ground game.
We need to do a better job on our legal game.
We need to invest in the ground game.
We need to invest in our legal game.
We need to, we need to start having these state legislatures in these all mail ballots across the country where it becomes election season instead of election day.
And I think the biggest thing Republicans need to stop doing is saying, look, we're wait till election day to vote.
We're going to let the Democrats kick our butts for four weeks, six weeks before election day during election season.
Democrats already have these races won by election day. We need to get out of that mindset. We need to play by until we can fix the rules until we can change the rules. We need to play by those rules, and we need to start learning how to win. Mike Davis, how do people get to you and track all this? Yeah, so it's article three project.org article number three project.org at article three project at article number three project on getter twitter truth
And my personal is MRDDMIA, MRDDMIA.
And thank you, Steve, for what you do.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate it.
Appreciate you coming on.
Okay.
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