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Episode 2247: The West Continues To Put Italy In A Box With The New Sworn In Prime Minister
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unidentified
This has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
That this is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
steve bannon
Pandemic.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
It's 22 October in the year of our Lord, 2022.
I got that right.
I blew that in the open.
But now we're here, it's Saturday, there's a lot going on.
President Trump's in Texas, there's people all over.
Today we've got Christine Karamoko on the bottom of the hour, but we're honored to have Maria Luisa Rossi Hawkins, the US, I guess, head of news and correspondence for one of the most powerful media.
The Vatican has extended, for two years I think, the secret deal with the Chinese Communist Party.
unidentified
How does that work?
steve bannon
The guy who runs Policy Sonar did an amazing book of how, and it didn't get a lot of play internationally, but his book really talked about the CCP infiltrating every aspect of really Italian corporate life.
And people should remember in the pandemic, the first hotspot was in Northern Italy because of the fashion industry, everything like that.
The CCP, this secret deal with the Vatican is outraged.
I want to talk on Sunday at 6 p.m.
here on Real America Voice.
I have a one-hour special, if we can get that artwork up, with Bishop Schneider.
We did it here in the War Room itself.
It'll play 6 p.m.
on Sunday night, an entire hour, with this amazing, amazing man who is a thorn in the side of the Vatican.
How can the Vatican be signing a secret deal with the Chinese Communist Party?
unidentified
Well, it's a capillary penetration of the Italian state, the Italian government, I guess the religious realm, and the Italian public opinion through a capillary campaign of being there quietly.
I believe that the CCP was able to penetrate every aspect of Italian society and the church, and we've seen it.
We've seen it in the last, in the latest years, and it's quiet.
steve bannon
They made a big deal about One Belt One Road being anchored in Venice, Marco Polo was there, this is the reverse Silk Road.
Have they penetrated deeply into Italian business and the rest of society, not just in Northern Italy where the fashion industry is?
unidentified
Absolutely.
They penetrate where the state, the government is weaker, Steve.
And it's easier to corrupt.
It's easier to buy.
It's easier not just to buy goods, but to buy off politicians.
It is easier to make a campaign, a enough so that public opinion will stand with you and this is exactly what they're doing and this is exactly what they have done. Now as far as the Catholic Church is concerned you were the one who first talked about this and the close or too close relationship and evidently here you have it.
steve bannon
Well it's a secret deal too.
Remember, being a signatory to the United Nations, as Vatican is, you can't have secret deals.
I mean, this just flaunts everything.
It's a secret deal.
The reason it's a secret deal is obvious.
There's money changing hands, but more importantly, there's a path to recognition by the Vatican and a throwing of Taiwan under the bus.
No doubt about that.
Remember, the CCP actually has the ability to pick the bishops.
And Cardinal Zen is on trial.
How do you sign this document with Cardinal Zen on trial in Hong Kong?
This is a total and complete betrayal.
I mean, the holiest man in the Catholic Church, Cardinal Zen, 90 years old, who stood up to the CCP, head of the underground church in mainland China, head of the church in Hong Kong, is on trial in Hong Kong, and they sign and announce the secret deal, which the CCP, during the 20th Party Congress on the last day, where Xi is going to announce tomorrow he's out for flight.
Do we have the clip?
Do we have the clip of Hu Jintao?
Okay, I'm about to show you something.
Yeah, get the CCP.
This is one of the most brutal things I've ever seen.
Have you had a chance to see it yet?
unidentified
No, I haven't.
steve bannon
Okay, you're about to see it.
unidentified
Looking forward to it.
steve bannon
This is, okay, this is on the day before, this is the last big event they've got.
There are 2,500 communist authorities there, and they just let the media in, and they're about to begin the big speeches.
The person you're going to see perp-walked out on live global television is the former head, it's who she took over from, Hun Jintao.
Okay, let's go ahead and play it and you watch what happens here.
unidentified
Here's how they roll in Beijing.
This is the first time I've been to China.
It's a little bit of a walk.
steve bannon
What you're seeing there, that's the former head of all of it.
They literally drag him off.
He didn't want to go, because he understands where he's going is not a good place.
This is a power move.
If you're concerned about Taiwan, if you're concerned about the South China Sea, if you're concerned about where Xi's going in this power move to become emperor for life, which he'll be anointed tomorrow, right there, he's showing the old power in China, I am supreme.
On the global stage, they dragged the guy off, the older guy.
Now, what I'm hearing is that the older guy had some words to say.
He was going to warn the Chinese people about Xi's consolidation of power.
They knew he was going to say that.
He was going to have a few minutes to speak as the former head of the Chinese Communist Party, the former chairman.
They sent the security officials in and took him.
He didn't want to go.
You can see that right there, because he understands where he's going is quite a dark place.
That's where the left wanted Steve Bannon to go yesterday, trust me.
unidentified
Okay?
steve bannon
That's how they roll.
That's how these totalitarian states roll.
When you see this, and you see that she now has supreme, ultimate power, right, and how weak Europe is overall, and the nations of Europe, with this bitter winter coming, give me your assessment.
unidentified
Two things, Steve.
The first thing that I think about is how can you be concerned about the rise of fascism in Italy when you see this?
And this is what I've been reading about Italian newspapers, about American newspapers, even people that I meet and see in the buildings in New York or on the streets.
Oh my God, I am so worried.
You guys are fascists, aren't you?
You got that.
You've got bigger problems.
Second, I really want to go back to talking about Georgia Maloney.
In the nomination of her ministries yesterday, I think she's sending a message, and she's sending a message to China.
When you're naming agricultural or food sovereignty, you're saying you're not buying us off.
steve bannon
Hold on, tell people what this means, because this was a power move.
What did she say yesterday about food sovereignty?
unidentified
We have ministries, as you would have it in the United States, departments.
But she renamed a few of them.
One of them being the Agricultural Department was renamed Agriculture and Food Sovereignty.
A word very close to you, Steve, and one that you might appreciate very much.
What does that mean?
It doesn't mean superiority.
It means sovereignty.
It means we take over our own food and agricultural chain.
Instruction and Educational Merit.
We will not be a nepotistic state.
We will not be bought off.
We are going to run with the Western merit chain of events and command.
Environment and Energy Security.
It is not the Department of Energy.
It is the Environment and Energy Security Ministry.
And then we'll have a Ministry of the Sea, going back with the ports idea that you've brought up.
Ministry of the Sea.
What does that mean?
It's not just about immigration.
It is not just about stopping or avoiding the flood of immigrants in the Italian ports.
But it's about taking control of the ports of Italy.
And then the last one is family, natality, and equal opportunity.
Family, natality, birth.
So all these things are not just a name change.
These things are a clear message to China and to those that believe that they could conquer Italy through a milieu of institution, international or not, and laws.
steve bannon
This is why she's so important to the United States, because it's God, homeland, and family.
That's the motto of what she's trying to do, right?
What's fascist about that?
unidentified
I have no idea.
I have no idea.
But I think the idea of fascism is a nostalgic idea by American intellectuals to pretty much put Italy in a box that they have read about and known about.
And there is a very significant, Steve, historic mistake.
about calling Giorgio Meloni fascist, which they're not doing anymore, by the way.
And that is fascism was an interruption of democracy.
Nobody elected Mussolini to the Italian government.
They marched on Rome, on a dictator's mandate, but Italy was a democracy interrupted by the fascist regime.
This is a government elected by the Italian people, a legitimate government elected, where Giorgio Meloni got 26% of the Italian vote.
One Italian out of four voted for her.
And that to me is the quintessential democratic mandate.
steve bannon
It's action, action, action.
She's always been someone who takes action.
Food sovereignty and energy security.
Is this because the rest of Europe, we hear about famine, we hear about higher food prices, empty shelves, and of course, a cold, bitter winter.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
Is this because she's getting ahead of it?
unidentified
I believe so.
I believe she's sending a message and she's going to deal with, I guess, the worst period in post-World War II Italy and Europe.
When we're talking about energy security, what she's saying is we have been dependent on Russian oil for so many years that we have to do something about it.
Energy independence is mandatory.
It is crucial.
It is essential to Italy and to Europe.
And it hasn't been so.
Not that Italian politicians or European politicians didn't know this, Steve.
But there was a buying off from Russian politicians.
steve bannon
Yes, big time.
unidentified
And we all know that.
So energy security, the independence of the Italian government.
steve bannon
How bad is the food situation going to be there?
unidentified
Inflation is high.
Inflation is high.
I would argue that the food situation is probably worse here in the United States and nobody's talking about it and you and I talk about this all the time.
I think inflation is a serious problem.
It is worse and more.
But I think the energy situation or the energy crisis is worse.
steve bannon
A lot of her biggest fans here are very concerned about how she put together this government, all the things she was saying about Ukraine and NATO and EU.
Has that changed her?
Did she have to play the game to get the government together?
Or are the Italian people going to be shoveling billions of dollars or billions of Euros into Ukraine?
unidentified
I don't know that she is a non-Atlantist.
I think she's pro-America.
She will definitely follow the U.S.
guidelines.
She will be an ally to the United States, but she will have her own voice.
Her biggest challenge is probably going to be at home with the anti-war movement in her own coalition.
But I think Georgia Maloney has a big advantage.
steve bannon
But you're in an economic crisis right now.
If she doesn't solve the economic crisis you have, It'll be a short-lived government.
What do you think her policies on that are?
unidentified
I think her policies are going to be energy independence.
I think her policies are going to be... Her first things get energy.
steve bannon
Is she going to junk the sustainability in the Green New Deal?
Because that's what's killing, that's what's killed the UK.
That's why you have a new government in the UK.
They're in fantasy land on net zero carbon.
What is she going to do about that?
unidentified
I believe that.
I believe she's going to be very realist about the costs of the Green New Deal and its declination into European policies.
But she'll have to go to Europe.
She'll have to go to the EU.
She'll have to say, we stand our ground.
steve bannon
I noticed you didn't inform the government until on the 15th that you got your cash from the EU.
Would you wait until you got your cash and inform the government?
unidentified
Well, talk about a realist, see?
Talk about a realist.
steve bannon
Real quickly, Salvini.
A real role?
A meaningful role?
unidentified
A real role, but under control.
Definitely under control.
steve bannon
He's lost a lot of, he's partied too much, lost a few steps here.
unidentified
I don't know about the parting.
I think the Italian people really have gone through hardship, and I think Georgia had played the coherence card.
steve bannon
Right, and the toughness and the focus.
Okay, short break.
We're going to come back.
You're going to see a very special from Jake Tapper last night about yours truly.
We're going to have one of the smartest political minds in media in the world, Maria Luisa Rossi Hawkins, comment on what she's seeing on CNN all next in the War Room.
unidentified
It's all started.
Everything's begun.
And you are over.
Cause we're taking down the CCP.
From the world to Hong Kong.
We will fight till they're all gone.
We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the CCP.
jake tapper
In the same investigation, Trump's former chief strategist, Steve Bannon, was sentenced to four months in prison for defying his subpoena from the committee.
And Bannon looked like he loved every second of it.
unidentified
Traitor!
Lock him up!
Traitor!
Thank you, ma'am.
jake tapper
The federal judge, a Trump appointee, we should note, said that Bannon has shown, quote, no remorse for his actions.
Remorse isn't Bannon's thing.
revolt is.
unidentified
Remember, this illegitimate regime, their judgement day is on the 2nd of November.
jake tapper
Bannon is one of the main forces that spread those deranged lies about the 2020 election.
But at least at the time, privately, Bannon seemed to know that this was all a scam.
Here he is behind closed doors before the last election.
steve bannon
And what Trump's going to do is just declare victory.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
He's going to declare victory.
But that doesn't mean he's the winner.
He's just going to say he's the winner.
jake tapper
It's unclear if Bannon will actually end up going to prison.
The judge is letting him remain free while his appeal process plays out.
We're going to talk to his lawyer in just a second.
Separately, Bannon is also facing charges of money laundering and conspiracy and fraud related to that online scheme to raise money to build Trump's border wall.
Bannon's a busy guy.
Even before he met Trump, Bannon was a man who wore many hats, or in his case, shirts.
Navy, Georgetown, Harvard MBA, Goldman Sachs, Bannon seemed drawn to odd projects such as the 1993 science escapade known as Biosphere 2.
unidentified
The structure houses seven small-scale versions of the Earth's various zones.
Here, crew members monitor plant, animal, and atmospheric changes in an attempt to understand real-life biology.
It's been referred to in the past as a planet in a bottle.
jake tapper
Bannon has a real eye, a keen eye, for opportunities.
For instance, he bought a stake in royalties for a little show in the 90s that maybe you heard of.
But in addition to that quality, seeing opportunities, Bannon has also long been drawn to a hostile, radical nationalism.
After making some right-wing documentaries, Bannon became a founding member of the board at Breitbart.com, where Bannon eventually assumed the helm and helped turn it proudly into a website for the so-called alt-right.
At the time, even right-wing talk show host Glenn Beck thought Bannon extreme and scary.
unidentified
He's a horrible, despicable human being.
By taking orders from a political candidate and reworking your entire site to promote the lies of a specific candidate without any kind of truth behind these things, that doesn't make you Roger Ailes.
That makes you Goebbels.
jake tapper
Goebbels, tough talk for a fellow conservative from Glenn Beck.
But you probably first became aware of Steve Bannon when he was Chief Executive Officer of Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and then Chief Strategist and Senior Counselor at the Trump White House.
Many in the public were afraid because of the bigotry on Breitbart and the accusations against Bannon of domestic violence and anti-Semitism.
Accusations from his ex-wife.
Bannon's spokesman denied the allegations, but Bannon was focused on putting his plans into high gear, such as the so-called Muslim ban, or purging the Republican Party of anyone remotely disloyal to Donald Trump.
steve bannon
They're going to be held accountable if they do not support the President of the United States.
jake tapper
Bannon brought that hostility into the White House.
One senior Trump White House advisor told me today that Bannon at the White House was abusive and foul to the extreme to everyone on the staff.
And President Trump was jealous that Bannon was getting more credit with the base than he was.
So it was only a matter of time before Bannon was ousted.
And after Bannon was quoted attacking Donald Trump Jr.
in a book the next year, Trump publicly went after the man that he called Sloppy Steve.
But Bannon did not return fire.
Bannon has always played the long game.
Bannon's long game is to tear down the GOP from the inside out and turn it into a nationalist party.
And that's why you should care about Sloppy Steve, because he's using his podcast now to go after Republicans and to go after the Republic.
Called The War Room, it's regularly one of the most popular podcasts on Apple.
Bannon has millions of listeners.
unidentified
Some of the figures he studied closest and admired from the past are actual propagandists, like the Nazi propagandists.
jake tapper
Bloomberg's Josh Green wrote a whole book on Bannon, and he reports that Bannon has studied the work of Nazi propagandist Lenny Reifenstahl.
unidentified
He showed me once, shot for shot, how he was copying in his own films what she had done in her films.
So it gives you an idea of the depth of his belief in propaganda.
jake tapper
Do not underestimate Sloppy Steve.
Steve Bannon is gifted.
Steve Bannon has taken that war room audience and turned it into what he calls an army.
It's an army he's been quietly mobilizing to fight on the humblest of battlefields.
unidentified
We're taking action.
And that action is we're taking over school boards, we're taking over the Republican Party through the precinct committee strategy, we're taking over all the elections.
jake tapper
We're taking over all the elections.
There's nothing wrong, of course, with getting the public involved in their political process.
In a way, it's laudable.
The problem here is what this Bannon army might do on those election boards, on these precinct committees, inside polling places.
unidentified
We're going to take over the election apparatus.
steve bannon
American citizens that are volunteering.
jake tapper
What are these people going to do once they're in charge of the election apparatus?
steve bannon
It is about who counts the votes, and guess what?
We're going to count them.
jake tapper
Who are these precinct committee men and women going to elect in county and state parties?
How are they going to do their jobs if elected to count votes on the local level?
When Drew Griffin and CNN's investigative unit sat down with members of Bannon's army on the state level, it was very clear who was calling the shots.
unidentified
And Steve Bannon was the one that I heard say exactly what Jody just said.
Hey, all the Democrats do it.
You gotta get involved grassroots.
jake tapper
It was also clear that members of Bannon's army had been fed lie after lie after lie.
Lies that clearly would cause anyone to be concerned about how they might do their jobs.
unidentified
To see all the anomalies during the elections.
There's no way that Biden could have ever won an election.
He didn't campaign.
The most unpopular person.
If you believe that that was a safe and fair election, then I mean, I just can't help you.
jake tapper
It was a safe and fair election.
This is a real threat to democracy and it's playing out at such a local level.
We might never even see what it means.
So this is where Bannon's combination of traits, savvy exploiter of opportunity and Rasputin of modern nationalism, this is where it has led him and us.
How concerned should you be?
Well, one former German ambassador to the United States puts it this way in CNN's special report airing tonight.
unidentified
Looking back over the last 70 years, over the post-World War II period, In my view, Steve Bannon was the single most dangerous American who came our way.
jake tapper
The single most dangerous American who came the Germans' way.
Not to belabor the point, but the Germans know from bad guys.
And even if Steve Bannon does end up in a prison cell, four months is not a long time.
Moreover, his insidious influence, that cannot be locked up.
steve bannon
Okay, I turn now to Maria Luisa Rossi Hawkins, one of the sharpest political minds around.
Your thoughts, comments, observations?
unidentified
Two things.
I don't know whether I should be scared of honor to be in your presence, sir.
Second is, I did not... Can you be both?
I am mesmerized by what I heard.
I think this is a very serious accusation.
The tone is risible, but the accusations are serious.
And the first impression that I have, Steve, is how scared are they?
How scared are and is the Democratic Party to put on such a show, so much that they need you as their enemy?
to go through the midterms without an agenda, without policy, without perspective for the future that they need once again to recreate, create and recreate and go over the construction of an enemy so that they can actually go forth in their campaign.
It is serious and as I say, risible in tone because...
steve bannon
Give me two, we got two minutes here.
As you report what's going on in the States to the people in Italy, what are you laying out as to where America stands today?
unidentified
I am trying to give the fairest view possible, but I don't have much leeway at that.
There is a weak presidency.
There is a president who is definitely not in full charge of his capabilities, but a cynical president.
It all comes back to me, to the Afghanistan situation.
to the Afghanistan debacle.
It reminds me that the image that comes to mind, that I remind everybody of, is the Afghan falling off the planes when the last American plane took over.
It is an image of inflation.
It is an image of war.
It is an image of America that cannot withstand the pressures of its own leadership.
Now, we're all going through a crisis.
Europe and the United States are tied into this crisis together.
But the energy crisis, the food crisis, the housing crisis, the crime crisis this country has, it goes far beyond any European expectation.
steve bannon
How do people follow you?
How do people get to you on social media and all that?
unidentified
I am not the greatest.
I am on Twitter, I'm on Instagram, I'm on Gatter, but I'm not the greatest social media person.
steve bannon
You don't post a lot, so we just got to watch your broadcast.
Thank you.
You're very busy today.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for having me.
You have followed the rise of Georgie Maloney from the beginning, and you were one of the earliest to say, there's something special here.
So today, she's appointed, takes the oath to be the first female prime minister in the history Can I say, Steve, we're proud of the generational change.
unidentified
We're proud of the fact that she's a woman, the first right-winged woman.
All those women on the left have always been pretty much ancillary figures to Italian politicians.
She's it.
Wow.
steve bannon
Maria Luisa, thank you so much.
Okay, short commercial break.
to go into Michigan. Christine Karamo, another fighter on the right next in the war room.
ali velshi
There are currently 291 Republicans on the ballot across the country who have denied that Biden is is the rightful winner of the 2020 presidential election.
They're running in 48 states for congressional and state offices.
Of those, more than half, 171, they're the ones in the, is that orange or red, whatever, the dark color on the top, are favored to win their races.
Nearly 50 more are in races that are likely going to be extremely close.
And here in Michigan, the Washington Post counts that there are nine election deniers on the ballot.
Five are favored to win.
The other four races should be very close, including the race for the Attorney General.
The Republican challenger in that race is Matthew DiPerno, who is currently under investigation by the state for allegedly tampering with voting machines in 2020.
This is the guy running for Attorney General.
Here in Michigan, for instance, The Republican candidate for Secretary of State, Christina Caramo, is a first-time political candidate.
She rose to prominence specifically because she unabashedly repeated lies about the 2020 election to anyone who would listen.
She still does this to this day.
She went as far as to claim that she witnessed misconduct in the processing of absentee ballots at a center in Detroit in 2020.
Those claims, unsurprisingly, have never been corroborated or substantiated.
But now, she is the Republican Party's candidate to be Michigan's top elections administrator, who would be in charge of overseeing the 2024 presidential election.
Joining me now is Michigan's current Secretary of State, Jocelyn Benson.
She's the Democrat running for re-election against Christina Caramo in this year's midterm.
She's also the author of an important book, Secretaries of State, Guardians of the Democratic Process.
Secretary Benson, good to see you again.
Thank you for being with us this morning.
unidentified
Thanks for having me.
Welcome to Michigan, Alex.
steve bannon
Okay.
I can't take too much of the... By the way, they're in full meltdown.
We are honored to have Christina Caramo join us.
Ma'am, why is the whole NBC news operation in Michigan today in a full meltdown because of you and Tudor Dixon and Matt DiPerno, ma'am?
unidentified
Because we are pushing into their spaces and they're terrified.
I mean, if you look at his opening remarks, he makes self-refuting claims.
He said that I made false statements about what I witnessed, but then said my claims haven't been corroborated.
How can you say my claims are false if they haven't been corroborated?
They just haven't been investigated.
So these individuals are fully vested in suppressing the truth, and that when the truth is on your side, you win.
And they're just simply terrified of us getting to the bottom of what not only happened in 2020, but the current corruption we see right now.
As a matter of fact, Steve, my opponent was slapped down by a judge for the fifth time two days ago.
So as this guy boasts how she wrote a book about the Secretary of State, she clearly doesn't know what she's doing because she keeps getting slapped down by judges for breaking the law.
She attempted to suppress poll challengers from seeing what's going on in our election, trying to prevent who they can talk to.
Benson tried to prevent our poll challengers from being able to talk to the local clerk about concerns they had.
And she is an attorney?
This is what we're dealing with?
These people are lawless?
And they are terrified that we'll be successful because as you know, Steve, there's going to be a massive red wave because the Democrats have totally lost their mind.
There is a rising of parents in Dearborn, which is a typically Democratic area, who will be voting Republican because they're trying to sexualize their children.
There are people who can't afford to feed their families.
And when they look at the election system, the same people who are creating a scenario where you can't afford to feed your families don't want you to even scrutinize the election process.
People are putting two and two together, and that's why we're going to win.
steve bannon
So, Ali Valchi, they didn't randomly select him to go out to Michigan.
It's because of the Dearborn situation.
Talk to me about what happened in Dearborn, and the mainstream media is literally in meltdown over this.
What's happening in Dearborn?
And they're particularly upset about any of your involvement.
Walk me through what's happening.
unidentified
Yeah, so, you know, what happened is it's in Dearborn, Michigan.
Because Dearborn is a typically vote Democratic, a lot of their school board members are Democrats, and these individuals put books within the school library that were very sexually explicit.
Steve, I was on an Arabic-speaking television show on Monday that was recorded in Dearborn, and one of the women on the show with me had brought the actual books.
Steve, I wouldn't even repeat these to you in private conversation.
That's how vulgar.
I mean, just extremely vulgar, with graphic pictures.
In these books, teaching students how to have sex, how to meet strangers on the internet for sex, and then these people turn around and lie and say, oh, you guys are just anti-LGBT.
And what's important to also note, that it's very insulting to individuals who identify as LGBT to assume that the only way to teach our children how to be kind to them is by exposing our children to explicit sex acts.
That's actually very insulting to them.
And so the thing about it is parents obviously are up in arms.
They went and spoke to the school district.
And then a lot of the speakers who spoke in favor of the books when I was there two weeks ago, actually last week, they were actually insulting them for being Muslim, directly.
And then continued to insult the people and said that they were just being held captive by right-wing ideology.
And this is more white supremacy.
I mean, this is just nonsense.
That's why when the left goes around the world, white supremacy, it's not about white people.
It's about, it's a demonization tactic of anybody who is pro-America, pro-family, that they just want to slap that label on people, even though these are Arab Americans, in order to get people to, to look down upon these folks for speaking truth about, we don't want our children sexualized.
So now you're seeing the parents in Dearborn are not backing down.
In fact, they're pushing harder.
And not only are they pushing harder, now they're pushing for everyone to vote Republican.
Because they're like, wait a minute, the Democratic Party has been taken over by people who aren't liberal, they're authoritarians, and they're trying to sexualize kids.
So now they're being more vocal about voting Republican, so they send this clown in to try to suppress that effort, but here's the thing, people aren't buying it.
They're not going to sexualize people's kids, and they're just going to go for it.
It's not happening.
steve bannon
Let me ask you, you talk about demonization.
Because we keep, as you know, micro-attention on all these races.
You have been particularly demonized by the mainstream media and by the Democratic Party to almost a lathered-up basis.
More than anybody, maybe Carrie Lake, but I gotta tell you, they're coming after Christina Caramo.
Is that, man, because you're a person of not just a Christian face, but you...
Live your Christianity.
It's a lived religion to you.
And you're a woman of color.
Do you believe that's why they've singled you out to really come at you the hardest of virtually anybody running in this country?
unidentified
Yeah, you know, to your point Steve, being consistent in my Christian faith requires me to reach out and to care about other people.
And they do not like the fact that I won't stay in a faith Republican bubble.
And as we go to communities like Flint, and Detroit, and Dearborn, that are typically democratic cities, we're winning people over by just simply telling the truth.
And a lot of the Democratic Party leadership, they stay empowered by deception.
So they lie to people, they trick people, for example, with like, we have an initiative, Proposition 3, where they will be legalizing children to get, children will be able to get sterilized behind their parents' back.
I mean, think about it.
A girl can go get a hysterectomy without her mother knowing about it.
This is the type of stuff these people are trying to legalize in Michigan with Proposal 3.
Read the language.
And so when we speak truth about that stuff, people's eyes are just open and they go, oh my goodness, this is horrible.
But one of the problems is that for a very long time, conservatives have just looked at communities that are typically democratic and will go, well, this is a D plus 10 city, so we're not going to waste our time campaigning in these spaces if they're not going to vote for us anyway.
And my philosophy is, well, why would they vote for you if you don't talk to them?
That doesn't make any sense.
And so oftentimes we go into communities and they'll say, you're the first Republican candidate I ever spoken with.
Or they've just never been exposed to the conservative perspective on real issues that we're dealing with.
And then I stay true to my conservatism, but just expectively explain it.
People agree with us.
They're like, yeah, that makes complete sense.
And so we're winning people over.
And so now we're taking from their base, we're taking from their power structure, Because one of the, it was interesting, a publication here in Michigan, who typically is more liberal, wrote an article about me.
And we were at an event when Southwest Detroit, which is typically a Mexican city and the Mexican portion of Detroit.
And one of the women they interviewed was saying that she's a socialist.
But yeah, I'm the first Republican she'll be ever voting for.
Why?
Because I'm not what she assumed a conservative is based on the stereotypes they make about us, Steve.
And so when people talk with folks like you and myself, They realize that we're not these crazy monsters that they make us out to be.
We're actually reasonable people who want to do right by our fellow neighbors.
And so we're breaking the narrative.
And so naturally, if someone—they live off narrative.
They need false narratives to maintain their power.
And so when a candidate is breaking their narrative, it breaks their power structure, and they lose.
And they're scared.
steve bannon
Christina, how do people find out more about your campaign?
We know you need assistance.
I want everybody that can to go check it out and see what they can do, and volunteers, whatever.
You're one of the key races in this country, Secretary of State in Michigan, and you're right, judges.
Benson should be ashamed of herself.
It's a disgrace.
She's outed all the time by these courts about what she's not doing, what she is doing.
It's outrageous.
So how do people find out more about your campaign?
unidentified
Yeah, ChristinaCaramo.com and also Steve, we have our series Benson's Dirty Deeds where we're going over all the illegal activities that's been going on in the state.
Like we have this company in Michigan where the guy who owns the company was arrested because he was storing data from our election systems on servers in China and our governor gave him $300,000 of taxpayer Michigan tax dollars.
There's just so much corruption going on in Michigan.
So, ChristinaCaramo.com, and this is why the Democrats around America are pouring millions of dollars into my opponent's race that says Michigan is a top-tier influencer of a presidential election outcome.
Irrespective of political affiliation, I'm a rule-of-law candidate, and I want to ensure that your voting rights are protected, and they're terrified of that prospect, so they're pouring millions of dollars into the state in order to protect election corruption that my opponent manages.
So, ChristinaCaramo.com, volunteer, donate.
Check out the videos and share the content with your friends who are liberals.
Let them see what's going on.
Let's help open people's eyes.
steve bannon
Christina Karamo, you're a hero and a patriot.
Thank you very much for coming to the War Room today.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
God bless.
steve bannon
Okay, thank you, ma'am.
By the way, people are deployed all over the country.
There are events going on.
Make sure you go to Worm.org or go to my getter feed or Grace Chong or, of course, Captain Bannon.
You'll be able to see events all day long.
We're going to go to Texas here in a minute.
Is Ben ready?
We're going to go to Ben Burquam right now.
And make sure you volunteer.
It's not too late to be a poll worker.
It's not too late to be an election official.
Right now, if it's too late in your district, become a get-out-the-vote.
Work a phone bank, knock on doors, do something.
Get engaged.
You've got to own your vote, own the people around you to vote, make sure they vote, but you've also got to get to the ramparts, right?
Because this is historic and you're going to want to be a part of it.
Ben Burquam, in Texas, tell us how we're doing getting ready for the Trump rally.
unidentified
Well, let me ask you guys, how are we doing out here?
Who's pumped to be out here?
All right, Steve, we've got folks from all over the state here.
We've got folks from Robstown.
We've got folks from the Valley.
We've got people that flown in, people that left California, escaped California, now live in Texas.
People are pumped.
I want to start right over here, sir.
Tell me first, and the main story we keep hearing all over the place here is most people used to be Democrats.
They've woken up to the lies of the Democrats, and now they're MAGA, and even ULTRAMAGA.
We're going to get that to you.
Tell me your story, sir.
Well, I used to be a Democrat a long time ago.
What pulled me away from the Democratic Party was mainly the pro-life issues.
And then from there, everything just kind of snowballed.
The biblical principles that Trump embraces is what I really like about him.
I've never heard another president invoke the name of God and Jesus more than I've heard President Donald J. Trump.
And that's the main thing for me, is that he's embracing biblical principles.
And follow the Bible and you can't go wrong.
I love that.
And we got the kids out here.
Young man, 16 here, rocking his MAGA hat.
Says he doesn't care if he gets the attacks from the left and from the haters.
He's going to keep standing up.
This is it.
This is the future of our nation.
Strong men and strong young ladies down here standing up for America.
Ma'am, you're here too.
Steve, this story is amazing.
So talk to me.
You were a Democrat and it was actually the Sandman story.
Talk to me about that.
Yeah, so the Nick Sandman story, I was outraged, I was upset, I even went as far as emailing the school.
Just so irritated, so mad, and then my boyfriend said, chill out, give it seven days, and the truth will come out, and it did come out.
The whole truth came out, and then I started questioning everything prior, and everything was a lie, and here I am now, at a Trump rally.
So many more, Steve.
Otto, if you want to jump in with the questions.
steve bannon
Ben, just hang on for one second.
We'll take a short commercial break.
We're in return.
We're going to Texas at the Trump rally next in the War Room.
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steve bannon
Okay, in Arizona, Michigan, and Nevada, we know that the polling changed radically after President Trump's had these huge rallies.
One in Texas a day.
Tons of important congressional races up.
Ben Berquam, back to you.
Introduce us to the posse down there.
unidentified
Hey, real quick though, I just want to have everybody start by saying, we're praying for you, Steve.
Let me hear you guys.
Who stands with Steve Bannon against the corrupt lying...
Hey, so they think they're going to take out the tip of the spear, Steve, but they don't realize we got arrows in the quiver and they're all coming for it.
We stand with you, the American people stand with you, and this is it.
In the end, they lose.
What they mean for evil, God is going to use for good.
Speaking of good, look at what's going on here.
So we got legal immigrants that have come over.
Talk to me real quick.
I'm Georgie Johnson Shepard and God has brought me to America.
196 countries in the world and I came from Europe, a British Guyana and we became socialists.
We do not want America to become socialist.
We do not want socialists here!
We are here because we are warriors, and we're here to save America.
And yes, President Trump is our president, but he's not God.
God has positioned each of us from North, South, France, Germany, wherever we come from.
This is my husband, and he stands strong with me.
We are not going to let this country die.
We're going to save it.
We are Americans, and we're going to save America.
Go!
Go Trump!
We could end it there, but there's so much more.
So talk to me.
I love that.
That is amazing.
So many more, too.
We're a Democrat.
I love this.
You said you were born a Democrat.
I was born a Democrat.
What woke you up?
Trump woke me up.
When he kept saying the fake news, the fake news, and I kept saying, How can it be fake news?
The reporters, they just report the news.
And it wasn't until I started listening to his speeches, what's going on, and I started paying attention to what's going on, and I realized the news would say something, and I'm like, that's not what Trump said.
That's not what he meant.
You guys are lying.
You guys are fake news.
But thank God I found real American voices.
We didn't pay her.
Oh, by the way, by the way, how many people are paid to be here?
This is one of the other lies that the Democrats say.
And nobody, nobody.
No.
Hi.
And you just want it.
This is it.
By the way, guys, if you feel led to say something, we're just going to bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.
What do you want to say?
Well, I'm so happy to be here.
And again, praying for Steve Bannon.
We love Trump.
We're here to support and I don't have anything else to say.
I love it though.
That's it.
Come here.
Who's next?
Who's next?
Come here.
Wait, wait.
Yes, ma'am.
We're gonna come this way.
I'm holding the mic though.
I want to give all the glory to God.
This is my first rally and I'm pumped!
I love it.
I love it.
First rally.
How many first time rallies here?
How many first rallies?
Holy cow!
How many first rallies?
More than the majority of the crowd so far.
I wanted to say God bless you Steve.
He's with you and that's one you got to depend on.
But we're all backing you.
Also if Donald Trump had done nothing for four years while he was in office, except if he had stayed in bed for four years, except open the people's eyes to the corruption in this government, he did more than any president in the history of this country.
By the way, she raises mules.
I raise mules.
I love the hat.
Truck kicks.
This is my 30th rally.
Drove 17 hours.
17 hours.
Got here Wednesday.
I'm from East Tennessee near the Smokies.
Now we also have another immigrant from France originally.
Now you're running the Republican Party here locally.
That's right.
Well, even originally I fled Hungary when it became communist and then was raised in France who became totally socialist and came to America to find freedom and we're losing it.
So it's time, thanks to Trump, to try to get it back.
All over the world they are losing their freedom and he's the only one who can save us.
So we need him back and we are fighting for that every single day.
God bless you.
God bless you.
Jump on, jump on.
Look, I'm a combat veteran, 22 years in the military, and I want to say this about Trump.
He has nothing to lose.
He has all the money in the world, and he's taking a downgrade for this.
Everybody think about that.
Which president has never been lobbied, been paid for, has had been in all these programs to be already anointed?
Trump wasn't.
He destroyed them.
So remember that.
When you think about Trump, Y'all stand for Trump.
Don't back down.
Nobody back down.
Stand up.
I stood up.
You can too.
Thank you, brother, man.
steve bannon
Hey, Ben, Ben, Ben.
Yeah, just tell the people we got to bounce, but here's what they should remember.
Pray for our enemies and victory in November.
Just tell them that.
unidentified
Amen.
Steve says pray for our enemies and victory in November.
That's it, guys.
God is in control and we pray that over and pray against the principalities and powers of darkness.
In Jesus' name we stand with you.
God bless America.
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Amen.
Ben Berquam, Real America's Voice.
The coverage is going to be this afternoon, another massive rally in Texas.
You see that crowd right there?
By the way, that's what they fear.
They don't fear Trump.
They don't fear Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson, Ron DeSantis.
They fear that right there.
That's the American people.
And guess what?
The American people are coming for them.
There's no substitute for victory.
OK, 6 p.m.
Sunday, 6 p.m.
Eastern Daylight Time.
We're going to have a one-hour special.
I want to thank Real America's Voice, Bishop Schneider and myself for one hour.
Going to walk through everything.
You're not going to miss that.
We'll be back here at 10 a.m.
Eastern Daylight Time on Monday morning, but get to us on Getter all weekend.
We're going to be doing live feeds.
We're going to be up posting non-stop the entire posse.
All I contribute is a bunch of big announcements on Monday.
Make sure you hear.
By the way, so make sure you get the President Trump's I got the rally in Real America's Voice, but there are things everywhere.
Go to all our sites.
You get to volunteer.
You've got Cause for America.
You have Melody Jennings watching the box.
They're absolutely freaking out, particularly out in Arizona.
Complete total meltdown.
We've got a lot going on next week as we drive towards this massive victory.
Remember, every poll is shifting our way.
Now we know we can win if we get the vote out, and we have to close the deal.
Remember, we cannot let them steal this.
The only way the Democrats can win is if they cheat.
They know this.
That's what they hate when we say this.
There's no substitute for victory.
Get us on Getter right now.
Stick around Real America's Voice.
Particularly, we're going to go to Las Vegas for the great one next.
And stick around for President Trump's incredible rally.
Remember, he changes the dynamics every time he goes.
Nevada, Michigan, Arizona, Pennsylvania, all of it.
See you all weekend here.
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