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Sept. 17, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2160: The Surge In Crime Continues Because We Restrict Local Police
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charlie kirk
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jack posobiec
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kari lake
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steve bannon
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unidentified
of color feel like they're unfairly targeted by police?
Are they wrong to feel that way?
And regardless of whether there's any merit there, what can you as a governor do to improve perception of police?
Ensure that everybody feels like police throughout their day?
kari lake
Can you repeat the first part of that?
unidentified
I missed that.
kari lake
A lot of people of color.
A lot of people of color.
unidentified
How many people of color have you talked to about that?
kari lake
Which surveys?
I'm happy to look at those stats.
Because I will tell you this, that I talk to people of color.
I talk to all Arizonans.
They're all concerned about the crime.
Just because your skin isn't the same color as yours doesn't mean you want your kids to be walking down the street in an unsafe neighborhood.
Every Arizonan wants safety and security in their neighborhood.
It doesn't matter what your skin color is.
And if you look at stats, you will look and see that police do not target people of color.
That is a lie that's been perpetuated by the left and then spread and disseminated and re-spread in the media.
Check the stats.
unidentified
Check the stats.
But you don't believe that's an opinion a lot of people of color have?
kari lake
I don't.
I think you guys find one or two people, three or four, and they're activists oftentimes, and then you spread that narrative.
Go into a neighborhood and ask the people in neighborhoods that are minority neighborhoods, do you want fewer police?
Do you want to defund the police?
They will look at you like you are the craziest person on the planet.
Nobody wants that.
unidentified
And if I could follow up, look behind us.
You're acting as if it's one race joined the law enforcement agencies.
Law enforcement is made up of our community.
Of course they have a vested interest in keeping our communities safe, and they're not targeting people based off race.
This is a lie that's been perpetuated by the media, by members of these organizations, and why you consistently bring this up is you seek to further divide our country.
Right now what you're seeing is law enforcement is under attack.
And that's how we're seeing a rise in crime.
Our cities are turning into Gotham and it's because of the job of the media has been highlighting these cases where sometimes it's an honest mistake.
Law enforcement, they wear body cameras.
They do every single thing right and then all of a sudden when there's some minor issue you highlight it and you try to make it a bigger deal than it is and you cause rioting on the streets.
You have to honestly know how powerful your position is as a journalist.
But right now, it's waning.
And this is why we have social media out there.
This is why we're doing this press conference.
But it's a shame on you to try to accuse us of saying that law enforcement is targeting people of color.
People of color want law enforcement in their communities.
Because, you know what?
If you go to minority areas, they're the ones who are begging for police.
Because they don't want their homes to be broken into.
They don't want their circle case to be closed down.
But unfortunately, the media keeps perpetuating this narrative.
But look around us, these brave men and women.
Do they look like racists to you?
No.
They're members of our community and it's time we treat them with respect.
steve bannon
It is Friday, 16th September in the year of our Lord 2022.
Jack Posobiec joins me.
We're live from Phoenix, Arizona at the Great Reset Conference put on by Charlie Kirk and the great team at Turning Point USA.
We're very honored to have, after that star turn, both Kerry Lake and Abe Hamaday.
Abe is running for Attorney General.
Kerry's running for Governor on the Republican nomination.
Kerry, first off, put it in perspective today.
This is, once again, I say why this ticket in Arizona Gets it.
You guys are always forward-leaning.
You're always going out to the media.
You're talking to the media.
You'll take any questions from the media.
So talk to us today about this whole situation with Governor DeSantis, what happened in Martha's Vineyard, what happened in New York City, what happened at the Naval Observatory in Washington D.C., and then what your response was to the left-wing media, ma'am.
kari lake
Well, my response to what Governor DeSantis is doing is, I think what we're seeing the Republican Party doing, the new Republican Party, is taking these issues and hitting them head-on.
We can no longer sit by and watch our states crumble, our cities crumble, under the pressure of this left-leaning and this left-wing policies.
And, you know, I don't support, and I've been very vocal about this, busing and flying people here illegally around.
But I do believe that what Governor DeSantis did by flying these illegals right into Martha's Vineyard has sent a very strong message to these liberals around the country that, look, we're dealing with this problem every single day, and you guys support it.
How do you like it now?
So I see the messages being sent.
That being said, I am not for Further smuggling human beings and trafficking them.
I am for stopping them from coming in the first place, and when we do, catch them and process them, sending back the other way across the border.
steve bannon
Look, in Martha's Vineyard, you know, they had 50 illegal aliens, you know, flown in.
And I think the town, the village itself is 17,000 people.
What is the scale of the problem in Arizona?
What's the scale of the problem you're going to have to deal with every day as governor?
kari lake
It's massive.
There's thousands of people coming in.
I think the stats from last year was a little over 2 million.
And then I'm hearing we have an additional 2 million.
Every law enforcement agency I talk to tells me those numbers are very low.
There's way more people coming in that haven't been tracked, that haven't been counted.
And so we're looking at millions, maybe up to 10 million by the time it's all said and done under Joe Biden's regime.
So we have to take this seriously.
That's why my plan on the border is so strong and it's going to be very aggressive and we're going to start on day one.
But you know, you talked a little bit about the left media, the left wing media, and we had a press conference last night that Abe and I held because we got the support of police and we're happy to have that because we support the police ourselves.
Can you imagine that in this day and age, the police have to write a letter to my opponent asking her To please denounce this defund the police movement and denounce this attack on police that we're seeing over and over in the media.
And she still hasn't done it because the media carries the water of the left.
You heard those questions.
They're always trying to spin everything into racism and trying to accuse our police of being racist.
And that kind of fake news is very damaging, not only to our black communities and our poorer communities and all communities, but it's damaging to our police.
For example, Steve, we had a case here.
Tyler Moldavani was a Phoenix police officer, and he was in pursuit of an African-American suspect who was known to be aggressive toward police and had assaulted police before.
And he was afraid to pull his gun in a dangerous situation.
He came around the corner, he was pursuing that man, that suspect, and because he was afraid to pull his gun out of his holster, lest he get in trouble for that, he, the officer, ended up being shot and almost died.
We can't have our police reacting that way in deadly circumstances.
They have to be able to protect their own life and stop dangerous people.
jack posobiec
Look, Kerry, we've seen, you know, my home state of Pennsylvania, and I'm actually from the Philadelphia area, the homicide rates are escalating through the roof.
It's going to be record homicides this year.
We're seeing this take place in every major city across the country.
But for yourself, running as governor, looking at the crime as you see it now, Charlie Kirk just did an incredible video, a horrifying video, by the way, downtown Phoenix of the crime down there, the situation down there, the tent cities.
What can you do at the state level to try to actually just what we're really basically saying is clean up these streets?
kari lake
We have a couple of plans.
You know, I talked about my border, getting serious on the border, stopping the drugs from coming across.
We are the pipeline for fentanyl.
Arizona is.
And we need to push back against the cartels and take control of the border.
I also have a plan to deal with and work to stop, actually, the chronic street homelessness that we have on our streets here in Phoenix.
I think you saw that in Charlie Kirk's video.
Those two go hand in hand.
We can't clean up and get people help that are drug addicts on the street.
If we have a constant flow of drugs pouring in.
And frankly, we need to tackle the homeless crisis.
It's causing crime.
These people are hooked on drugs.
They're causing crime to get money for those drugs.
And we've been looking the other way.
We're no longer going to do that.
My plan calls for banning street camping, urban camping, getting people in shelters, getting them help, and then going after crime.
That means if they're vandalizing, if they're committing petty theft, if they're breaking into storage units, if they're doing trespassing crimes. It's the broken windows policing that Rudy Giuliani did when he came in in the 90s and turned New York City around.
steve bannon
We're gonna do that statewide. If cities refuse to take part in that, then we will consider pulling their funding. Let me let me ask you, I wish I could take and have you teach a master class in to other candidates about how you handle the media today.
I just want to go over again, when they ask these type of questions, what's the first thing that kicks in your mind?
Because you have really perfected this.
I think it's one of the reasons that you're going to beat Katie Hub so badly, but you've been an inspiration to people throughout the country.
Just not to take the premise of the questions, tell us how you do it.
kari lake
Well, I talked about it actually at the end of that press conference that Abe and I did, and if you want to see the whole press conference, you can go to my Rumble page, Carrie Lake at Rumble.
But what I noticed and I think what I mentioned at the very end of that press conference was you have to listen to the tone of the question being asked.
And you can tell right there with the reporter if they're a biased reporter.
There's always an agenda in their questioning.
And so you listen to the question.
You heard the guy say it.
He's trying to push the racism argument that our police are acting and pushing racism.
And you could hear right there.
His bias in the question, and I just focus in on that, and I go right after that bias.
And every single time you look how they ask the question, you can see the bias.
So I encourage candidates to listen to how that question is coming down the line at them.
jack posobiec
Well, what you're actually doing is you're deconstructing their approach.
And so when I was deployed at Guantanamo and the interrogation cell, we had 16 approaches for interrogation, but they're lines of questioning.
And what you're doing is you're actually deconstructing their approach and actually, in some cases, telling them how to do their jobs and what would be a better way of actually asking you the question rather than Giving them the answer that they're looking for, because of course they're going for gotchas.
You're not just saying, I won't answer.
You're actually deconstructing it and telling them how to do their jobs better.
It's like you're teaching them how to be a better interviewer or questioner while they're there on the stand.
And that's something that, I mean, obviously is a testament to your 30 years background.
But I wanted to get back and maybe we could bring Abin on this a little bit.
is this idea of, you know, why did we get away from the broken windows theory, this version of policing?
And it's not just policing, but it's policing plus prosecution.
Because if police are bringing these guys off the streets, you block them up, but they get let right back out, then you're really just making the police do the same job over and over a day, every day, like Sisyphus.
This is something that needs to be done hand in hand.
kari lake
It's frustrating for police.
unidentified
Carrie, go ahead.
Go ahead.
kari lake
Go ahead, Abe.
steve bannon
Yeah, Carrie, take it.
Okay, go ahead.
abe hamadeh
You're absolutely right, Jack.
So if you actually look at George Soros, he's actually had this planned out for a while.
And that's why, you know, ultimately he took over so many of these D.A.
races and these attorney generals across the country, because he ultimately realizes that the law is just a piece of paper with text on it without enforcement.
So now what we've witnessed, you know, with Letitia James politicizing and weaponizing her office, or what we witnessed in San Francisco with Chesa Boudin, who was thankfully recalled in June.
No, that's what's going on.
So we really need to have the strong enforcement mechanism.
But you're right.
It's now they're attacking police.
But, you know, since it's not suiting their needs, they're they're pushing away from the defund the police movement, at least overtly.
But, you know, we recognize what they did to us over the past two years and how they vilified the law enforcement officers.
And that's why they're you know, they came out and endorsed Kerry Lake and myself, because they know What they were going through, and so many politicians did not have their backs.
They just look at their opinion polls before making their decisions.
But Kerry Lake and myself, we look at the Constitution before making ours, and that's exactly what we're doing.
We're going to uphold the rule of law.
steve bannon
Abe, hang on for one second.
We'll hold you through the break.
Kerry, how do people find out more about you, your campaign?
Where are you going to be this weekend?
Because this is a grassroots effort.
kari lake
You can go to KariLake.com, K-A-R-I-L-A-K-E dot com, and I encourage you to go there and look at the issues page.
You click on the issues link, you'll see where I stand on every issue, and I believe that I have the solutions to offer for Arizona, for every Arizona, Democrat, Independent, and Republican.
Everybody wants solutions to the problems we have in our state.
steve bannon
Kari, has Katie Hobbs agreed yet to stand on a stage and do her interview with the Arizona people like you've committed to?
Has she done that yet?
kari lake
She's not going to do it.
I mean, we asked them to extend that deadline right up until the second the debate starts.
We're happy to have her whenever she finds the courage.
steve bannon
I guarantee you, after she watches that press conference, there's no chance she stands on the same stage with Carrie Lake.
Impossible.
Not going to happen.
Carrie Lake, honored to have you on here.
We're going to hold Abe Hamaday through the break.
Carrie, thank you so much.
jack posobiec
You're scared, Steve.
She's running scurred.
steve bannon
Katie Hobbs is scared to death of Carey Lake.
Scared to death.
I hate to be that blunt about it.
She's scared to death of it.
I want to hold Abe.
We're going to take a short break.
I've got Posobiec, my wingman here.
We're going to have Calamity Jane, Zirkle, Captain Maureen Bannon, Charlie Kirk.
We're packed.
What I want to do though, I think if we can cut it quickly enough, I want to play the Abe Hamaday part once again.
This was absolutely, if I was Hommaday, all I would do is cut that into a 30 second spot.
An incredibly powerful statement from a young man running for Attorney General in the great state of Arizona.
Next, in the War Room.
unidentified
I could follow up.
Look behind us.
You're acting as if it's one race joined the law enforcement agencies.
Law enforcement is made up of our community.
Of course they have a vested interest in keeping our communities safe, and they're not targeting people based off race.
This is a lie that's been perpetuated by the media, by members of these organizations, and why you consistently bring this up is you seek to further divide our country.
Right now what you're seeing is law enforcement is under attack and that's how we're seeing a rise in crime.
Our cities are turning into Gotham and it's because of the job of the media has been highlighting these cases where sometimes it's an honest mistake.
Law enforcement, they wear body cameras.
They do every single thing right and then all of a sudden when there's some minor issue you highlight it and you try to make it a bigger deal than it is and you cause rioting on the streets.
You have to honestly know how powerful your position is as a journalist.
But right now, it's waning.
And this is why we have social media out there.
This is why we're doing this press conference.
But it's a shame on you to try to accuse us of saying that law enforcement is targeting people of color.
People of color want law enforcement in their communities.
Because, you know what?
If you go to minority areas, they're the ones who are begging for police.
Because they don't want their homes to be broken into.
They don't want their circle case to be closed down.
But unfortunately the media keeps perpetuating this narrative.
But look around us, these brave men and women.
Do they look like racists to you?
No.
They're members of our community and it's time we treat them with respect.
steve bannon
Welcome back.
Abe Hamadeh is running for Attorney General.
That's what people want to see, Abe.
I mean, right there, that's a 30-second spot.
What people want to see is not just stopping defund the police.
It's someone in the Attorney General's office that will actually have the back of the police.
Abe, tell us, what inspires you to, off the top of your head, say that?
abe hamadeh
You know, I just speak from the heart, Steve and Jack.
You know, to witness, you know, we served in the military, all of us here, and we get thanked for our military service all the time.
But too often, the ones who wear the police uniform, they go to the streets of war every single day without the backing of the citizens, without the backing of the city council, without the backing of the mayor.
So it's really a thankless job what's happened.
I mean, you know, we just had the 21st anniversary of 9-11, and I remember You know, the months and years after that, we used to respect our law enforcement officers as heroes.
But it's sad what they're trying to do is trying to, you know, deconstruct our society into these miserable, chaotic places.
And they start that by demoralizing our police officers.
So, you know, I told the law enforcement officers, I will take the arrows.
I've already taken a bunch of arrows from the media.
You know, I simply don't care what they think of me.
And I will always have their backs as I know the type of work that they go through.
I mean, as a former prosecutor, I used to go on police ride-alongs.
I used to go to scenes.
I used to, you know, actually watch body cams.
And it's, you know, there's, they also do a tremendous amount of good in the community, but too often the media just highlights, you know, one instance or one minor issue.
So, you know, that's where I just speak from the heart and the media, I mean, they were shocked with Kerry Lake and I was a good one to punch combination there, but I think they were, they had their tails between their legs at the end of the press conference.
jack posobiec
I want to unpack a little bit about what you're saying in terms of your theory of the case, because you mentioned these Soros prosecutors and the idea that they always talk about criminal justice reform, we need bail reform, getting rid of cash bail.
There was that law that just got passed in Illinois, the SAFE-T Act, that's eliminating cash bail for a number of even violent crimes at this point.
Um, but it sounds like what you're offering is something closer to the broken windows theory, this idea of taking violent criminals and even the lesser crimes, getting those off the street because it's idea of protecting society.
You know, I think when they, when they asked that question earlier and it does law enforcement target people of color, it's almost like you could turn around.
No, they defend people of color.
Actually, they defend victims of criminals.
That's the whole point.
They're targeting criminals.
So if you could walk us through what is your theory from a judicial standpoint of enforcing the law.
abe hamadeh
Well, absolutely.
I mean, as a prosecutor, you uphold the law and there needs to be consequences for actions.
But this idea that progressive George Soros type of prosecutors are trying to shove down our throats is that there's lawlessness and there's no consequences.
And that's what we're seeing in California with San Francisco, Los Angeles, or you go to Portland or Chicago or New York.
I mean, these cities are turning into Gotham.
They already have And it's just, I mean, it's common sense, right?
I don't think Giuliani and Bernie Kerrig, you know, I don't think it was, we just returned to the basics.
And so that's exactly what we're saying is, you know, most people, and this is why it's such an easy message to sell and why, you know, law and order is such a top of mind issue is because they recognize that in a matter of a few months or even a few years, we've seen once great cities turning, turn into hell holes.
And it's because of democratic policies.
and the media refuses to act like they're complicit in that.
They refuse to acknowledge that these cities that people are fleeing from are Democratic-run cities.
So, and unfortunately, it goes and tries to invade Arizona.
We already have one Soros prosecutor down in Pima County, for instance.
So it's rising, and it's just this culture that's been changing.
So that's where we have to stand up for our culture, our American culture, which is a rule of law.
And so, you know, I don't know what the end game is on their end, but it's something that we have to defeat this November because I'm not sure we can survive as a country with the weaponization of these offices all across the country.
I mean, the reason why AG races are so much more powerful than ever before.
I mean, my primary cost seven million dollars between six candidates.
And the reason why is because we finally recognize state AGs are powerful.
And look at Letitia James.
I mean, she's basically bankrupted so many people and bankrupted businesses.
And that's exactly what we have to prevent because now we finally recognize the role of state attorneys general.
So we have to keep it in good hands and have it a good steward of the rule of law.
steve bannon
Abe, how do people find out more about you, more about the campaign?
Arizona, Carey Lake, and you and Fincham, it is the ticket that is the most important probably in the country at a state level.
How do people find out more about you?
abe hamadeh
Absolutely, they can go to Abe4AG.com, Abe4AG.com, and I look forward to working with Governor Carey Lake and Secretary of State Mark Fincham.
You know, we're going to tackle all these issues including, you know, the election integrity as well, Steve.
steve bannon
A fight on.
Incredible press conference today.
Just incredible.
Just amazing.
By the way, is Charlie Kirk in the house now?
jack posobiec
I think.
unidentified
There's this six foot three silhouette behind the lights over here.
steve bannon
The bagpipes didn't play.
unidentified
We're at the, I thought, no, sirs, I thought the guy walks in, I always get the bagpipe, you know, the... That's not a, you know, that's not a recording, by the way, on his show.
jack posobiec
He actually has the bagpiper right there.
unidentified
He's a Kirk.
jack posobiec
It was Bill Barr at first, but he fired him.
steve bannon
He's a Kirk.
Charlie, can we get Charlie into, we get, Charlie, we pull the camera back and get it, we don't even need a headset, we'll just get, okay, we're at the Great Reset Conference, we're live.
unidentified
I got Posobic, we'll just move over, we got a microphone, don't we?
steve bannon
Just right there, we just got a microphone, we don't need a headset.
Can we get a three-shot?
unidentified
We're doing the cover, see?
steve bannon
So Charlie Kirk, what are we here today for?
What is the Great Reset?
Why are we doing this conference?
And by the way, this started as a small idea and it's really metastasized to something huge.
charlie kirk
Oh, I mean, it's grown into something huge.
It's kind of funny.
We had this space at this hotel committed for a different event and it just ended up We're not exactly caught up with it.
It's for Turning Point Academy teacher's training.
We're doing that in December.
And so we were obligated to do something.
We said, hey, we wanted to do something around the Great Reset for quite some time, Davos World Economic Forum.
And so we said, let's bring in Steve.
Let's bring in a couple people.
And Steve, it's turned into this unbelievable thing.
We've sold it out three times over.
The digital audience is incredible.
We now obviously have this accompanying booklet.
And I think there's a reason for this, though.
The reason really is that You know, people are recognizing and realizing that there's a global game playing out right now.
It's the World Economic Forum Against American Citizens.
So it's about empowerment, it's about education.
You know, Steve, we do a lot of big events at Turning Point, our AmericaFest in December, huge, and they kind of have a rally theme.
Well, there'll be a little bit of that, but this conference we've branded as, it's time to go deep, it's time to take notes.
jack posobiec
It's actually a workshop.
charlie kirk
It's a workshop.
We want people to leave with notebooks full of notes.
steve bannon
So this is not going to be the rally, because the one you have in December is almost like a three-day rock concert.
charlie kirk
Yeah, and we want it to be that way because we need that kind of big public displays of support, energy, and celebration today, these next couple days.
And they'll be able to watch, by the way, on Real America's Voice in the coming days and your keynote tonight, Steve, which we're looking forward to.
What can the average everyday American do to push back against Klaus Schwab, to push back against Justin Trudeau, Bill Gates?
And then we have this for everyone at home, kind of a go-along study guide, if you will, and they can get it at tpusa.com for a gift of any amount.
It's the American response to the Great Reset.
steve bannon
So we've got three Real America Voice hosts here, myself, and of course you're doing the geopolitical show at night and everything, and Charlie Kirk's got that great show that follows War Room every day.
Real America's Voice is going to stream this.
We're going to get to Ben Burquham in a second.
They're also going to do the Trump rally tomorrow.
The great Ben Burquham is actually out there and on the border.
Were you inspired because you sent Posobiec?
Over to Davos and he got rolled up and like the first he's sitting there at a cafe He's out there drinking a cat coffee and they and they actually show up and it was that inspired you Well, that was part of it, you know Jack's documentary about the great reset airs tomorrow Hold on. Is this gonna premiere at the conference?
jack posobiec
So Steve we we were over there and it what we weren't just over there to get arrested by the way So Charlie sent me over.
He said, let's do a documentary on the Great Reset.
I said, great.
I'll book the studio time.
And Charlie goes, no, no.
You're going to Switzerland.
You're going to Davos.
You're going to get right in their faces.
Well, we did Geneva as well.
We sat down with Norbin Laden.
So Norbin Laden's in it.
steve bannon
We did the World Health Organization.
jack posobiec
So we did the World Health.
Remember, this was the pandemic treaty.
They want to put a treaty together to give themselves the power to declare Uh, pandemics inside the sovereign nations.
You're giving your sovereignty up to the WHO.
So we go to Geneva, then we go to Davos.
Then I guess Tedros must have called up, um, must've called up Schwab and said, Hey, Posobiec's coming.
So we're going to send out the thugs after him.
steve bannon
I don't think they need to.
I don't think Tedros need to call.
They know Jack Posobiec's in town.
jack posobiec
So all of that, all of that was recorded.
The first episode of this is going to be premiering at the, it's, it's the end of the conference.
So the first episode ends at the end of the conference.
charlie kirk
So Steve, also though, part of this event is we have to continually have public displays of support that show the other side, that you might throw stuff at us, you may try to investigate us, even try to do phony indictments.
We're going to keep organizing, keep doing things.
They're trying to demoralize us.
It's a Soviet strategy, demoralization.
steve bannon
Like the subpoenas the other day.
Demoralizing Mike Lindell.
They're trying to scare people.
They're trying to scare people.
Hey, if you have products on Mike Lindell's My Store, you're going to be rolled up by the FBI.
Take a short commercial break.
We have Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobiec, Stephen K. Bannon.
We're live at the Great Reset Conference Turning Point USA in the Metro Phoenix area.
There's still time to get tickets.
Go to TPUSA.com.
charlie kirk
At this point, just show up at the Arizona Grand Hotel and say, Steve sent me, and we'll see what happens.
unidentified
Sure, Brady.
steve bannon
Be back on Real America's Voice.
The War Room, next.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
jack posobiec
With Stephen K. Bannon.
unidentified
The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
jack posobiec
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Charlie, is it true you invited not just Klaus Schwab, but George Soros?
charlie kirk
Sure, we'll go with that.
They are more than welcome to do, let's just say, an AMA.
They could take questions from our audience at any time.
jack posobiec
Bring them all.
Klaus Schwab, Fauci, Tedros.
charlie kirk
We've actually read Klaus Schwab's book, too.
steve bannon
No, no, no, that's part of it.
It's still getting out there, so that's why we have to explain exactly what the status and dynamics of structure, nomenclature, all of it today over the next two days.
But you guys, being Turning Point, always have an edge, right?
And the edge work here is saying, hey, We want to know how we take it on and how we defeat it.
It is a workshop.
It's not a rally like you see these Turning Point conferences.
They're full of energy, people high-fiving.
jack posobiec
I did request the fireworks for my entrance.
charlie kirk
We got something for you, Steve, just wait.
steve bannon
Okay, good.
I'd like that.
But what is it about being a workshop and saying, here's how we're going to defeat this, here's how we're going to take it on?
charlie kirk
You can't go about solving something that which you do not know.
That's an old proverb.
And so that's the first thing.
It's educating the population.
But then going through every dynamic.
So we got Pedro Gonzalez.
We got Terry Schilling.
Going through the Arctic.
So Pedro's going to talk about the power of investigative reporting and looking into kind of this regime.
steve bannon
That's a guy who'll get in your grill.
charlie kirk
Oh yeah.
No, Pedro will find out where the skeletons are buried.
jack posobiec
Pedro is not a journalist.
Pedro is a Sicario.
charlie kirk
Pedro is the best.
And then we got Terry Schilling talking about how the family is being destroyed by the World Economic Forum and how we need to rebuild the American family from the bottom up and the local side of it.
So the theme you're going to see the next 24 hours here at the Great Reset event is all about local.
Is that the smaller beats the big.
More agile.
The closer to the source of familiarity, the harder it is to crush that.
That is the great flaw in the globalist philosophy.
unidentified
Wow.
steve bannon
Subsidiarity.
charlie kirk
That's exactly right.
And so, if we have a thousand, ten thousand, fifty thousand micro-communities that are strong and anti-fragile, which is one of my favorite terms, we get stronger the more they throw at us.
And we're going to talk a lot about that.
steve bannon
We're also going to talk about how You're talking about a precinct strategy that's weaponized, but understands it has a role, not just in the nation, but it has a role to take down the Great Reset, which is really the globalist agenda to take us down, take our sovereignty.
charlie kirk
And the thing the Great Reset hates the most is when you mention, with the Great World Economic Forum and the Great Reset people, you mention their plans, you mention how they go about doing it, it drives them nuts.
And so that's what we're going to be doing these next couple days.
We want every sitting, there'll be millions of people watching this online, millions.
We'll have a packed house here tonight in Phoenix.
We want every single person to know the threat, but then feel comfort that there are actionable items in front of you that can actually go about solving this and defeating these crooks and these robber barons from Davos.
steve bannon
Tell me about when you were there, Jack, when you went to all these panels, you got every big shot in the world, media, consulting, legal, investment banking, capital markets.
Are they that tough?
jack posobiec
No, no, tough?
No, not at all.
These people, look, when you had little Savannah Hernandez comes up, so they bring in their thugs, they go after us, we get frisked, the front and the back, had my under-tack on.
No, no, no dinner first.
And then little Savannah Hernandez comes up, five foot two, but one of the feistiest reporters behind a mic camera there are, and just gets in their grill and starts yelling at them.
Why are you doing this?
Why have you put him up?
Why are you taking these, these cameras?
They immediately fade.
They pop away.
These guys, They've never been in a street fight.
They've never been in a bar fight.
They've never gotten their feet dirt or their fingernails dirty.
They've never, as Charlie said, you know, we'd like the people who take a shower before work and after work.
I like that one.
That was a good line.
Thank you.
They're not.
This is not the muscular class.
OK, this is your white collar.
These are the people, by the way.
This is the reason that we have the inflation that we do today, because all of the low interest rates, this is where all the money is going to float these people.
They have no clue what they're doing.
I will tell you one thing, though.
For all the talk that we got of Ukraine, and they flew in Liev Schreiber, and he's talking about his grandparents and everything.
They had Zelensky doing a... Zelensky came in.
steve bannon
Hold it, Axios.
Jonathan Swan did a big interview where he says you've got to read all the World War II memoirs.
jack posobiec
Right, so I'm there in the Russia war crimes house, underwritten by Victor Pinchuk, who was the biggest number one donor to the Clinton Foundation, underwritten by him, sitting there with Tanya Tay, as we're watching the Jonathan Swan interview with Zelensky.
Meanwhile, though, I'll tell you one thing.
We walked up and down, they call it the international road there.
We went to every conference, every panel.
You know what word was not heard once throughout all of this conference?
Taiwan.
CCP is all over this thing, and you have to understand, that is the basic deal.
They'll never mention it, but the way the globalist system works, it's a global supply chain, it's Western capital, Western consumers, and the CCP manufactures everything.
steve bannon
That's the dirty deal.
You go to Geneva and they totally infiltrate the UN infrastructure.
Real quickly, we have the populist nationalist movement here in Phoenix at this conference, but also Tomorrow, J.D.
Vance and President Trump in a huge rally in Ohio.
Let's go to Ben Berquam, Real America's Voice.
Ben, tell us about how big is the rally going to be tomorrow, sir?
ben bergquam
I expect it to be as big as what we saw just a couple weeks ago, guys, in Pennsylvania.
The people here are pumped.
I was actually interviewing a couple of the people, the workers, three young black guys that live here in Youngstown, and they came out and they're like, man, we're so happy you guys are coming out here.
I asked the guys this morning, I just posted the interview, it's incredible, like what do you think between Joe Biden and President Trump and and and they laid it out so clearly And it goes right back to what you guys are talking about the Great Reset Klaus Schwab all of this destruction of the economies They laid it out President Trump increased the economy President Trump created more jobs created more opportunity Joe Biden has killed that and that's what the Great Reset does It destroys the Western world.
It destroys our opportunity in this country and the Western countries around the world and redistributes that.
That's why the border is so critical.
That's why the destruction of the border is all part of that.
And that's why these patriots back here are pumped up to be out here.
Some of them got here on Tuesday.
These guys are out here and we're going to see thousands tomorrow as well.
steve bannon
Ben, I gotta ask you, you're in Ohio, but I know you're following what's happening in Martha's Vineyard.
You've been on more than anybody, this great investigative reporting on the border.
You've been in Del Rio.
I mean, you were at the International Bridge.
You've been in Eagle Pass for over a year, almost two years now.
Tell us what you think about what Governor DeSantis did.
ben bergquam
You know, two parts to that.
I think what DeSantis did is great.
He's having these people bused in, shipped in, flown in by Joe Biden to his state.
He should ship them right back out.
And if it's sending them to Martha's Vineyard to show the hypocrisy of the left, that's great.
I still don't agree with Governor Abbott sending them anywhere else other than back across the border.
That's why it's so critical.
You just had Carrie Lake on.
That's why it's so critical we get Carrie Lake as governor of Arizona.
We cannot allow the people to come in.
We have to declare the invasion, stop them at the border, send them back.
Now, the states where Joe Biden's shipping them to, by all means.
I think DeSantis should send them there, make a mockery of their hypocrisy every single day.
But what we need to do is actually stop them from coming over in the first place.
But it's hilarious.
I mean, they just can't help it.
The same people, 90% of the vote on Martha's Vineyard was for Joe Biden, and 50 illegals show up and they lose their minds.
I mean, it's awesome.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Ben, give the War Room Posse there a shout out.
Tell them we love them.
We're from Phoenix Live this weekend, but our hearts are there with them in Ohio.
Have a fantastic coverage.
What time is Real America's voice coverage start tomorrow?
ben bergquam
Starts at 3 p.m.
Tomorrow afternoon and then of course we're gonna be with you tonight We've got a special tonight from 7 to 9 p.m.
Eastern and then we're gonna be cutting right to you guys Jumping back and forth and then cutting back.
So all night tonight all day tomorrow starting at 3 p.m.
unidentified
Tomorrow live from here Ben Berquam, great job.
steve bannon
Thank you very much, sir.
Charlie, let me ask you.
unidentified
Let me ask you, Martha's Vineyard, the U.N.
steve bannon
Thanks, thanks brother.
Tell the posse out there we love them.
You guys are the best in the world about thinking through strategically messaging.
Talk to me about Martha's Vineyard, the Naval Observatory, New York City, what they're doing.
charlie kirk
Well first of all, obviously they should be deported back to their home country, not further However, winning the narrative wins the war.
PR is a big part of whether or not you're able to actually long-term win a cultural battle.
So some people say it's a PR stunt.
Of course it is, and it's a brilliant one.
It's awesome.
The way they've been reacting has completely revealed What they believe, how they actually don't believe diversity is their strength.
They just kicked them off the island of Martha's Vineyard.
steve bannon
Called the National Guard.
There's 50 people, there's 50 people.
jack posobiec
Look, a Democrat governor, by the way, calls in the National Guard for illegal immigrants.
Imagine if any of these, I'm not playing the whole Imagine Conservatives at it, but if Ron DeSantis called in the National Guard and declared invasion, the way Carrie Lake is talking about, and called in the National Guard to round up illegals, they would lose their ever-loving minds.
charlie kirk
does it and they say oh he's so humanitarian he's so humane we love Baker just acts like a Democrat he is a Republican but you understand yes this is not hypocrisy it's hierarchy well there's one other point to this though you read Solinsky's rules for radicals one of the ones that they apply better than we do is make the enemy live up to its own book of rules yes its own rules and this is exactly what it is you want illegals you want border wise open fine then you have to all of a sudden greet plane ride plane loads of people coming The PR battle is very important.
In fact, I support more stunts, more hijacking the news cycle of issues that can make us win the midterm election.
jack posobiec
Where would you send them next?
charlie kirk
Oh, I'm out to Aspen.
jack posobiec
Aspen?
unidentified
Aspen Institute needs 50 Venezuelans immediately.
I would go to Hamptons, but I'm just tossing that out there.
jack posobiec
Wait, wait, wait.
Guys, you're missing the obvious.
Where's the obvious?
Rehoboth Beach.
Rehoboth Beach, Delaware.
Come on.
Ask Joe, send him right to your front door.
steve bannon
Here's the main thing.
You know what's so shocking?
Is so much of the mainstream media didn't even understand how many, you know, the two million that are registered, the 4.9 that have come across, they were absolutely shocked.
They sent correspondents there that didn't have any of the details of this invasion.
charlie kirk
They have none of the details.
And so you look at what would it have cost to buy television advertisements at this point in the election cycle to get immigration back on the forefront?
Probably $100 million.
It was a $100 million super PAC buy to get everyone talking about the illegal invasion and how Democrats don't actually want to live up to their own standards.
jack posobiec
For 50 plane tickets.
charlie kirk
For 50 plane tickets and just for one flight to Martha's Vineyard.
Because they were doing this.
Abbott was bused into Chicago and DC was getting a little coverage.
If you want to get Democrats' attention, don't send it to Kamala Harris's home.
Send it to Kamala Harris's donor's home.
Could you imagine the White House switchboard of Democrat donors calling the White House, get them out of our island!
steve bannon
Look, you can't get more pro-Trump than War Room or Charlie Kirk Show or Turning Point or any of that.
But Ron DeSantis, this was Trump circa 15, right?
This is a full flex.
charlie kirk
This was, I don't know, like Steve Bannon's strategy of bringing Bill Clinton rape survivors to debate level.
I mean, that takes a spine, let's put it that way.
But I love it, and the final point I'll make on this, which I think is so critically important, their reaction was perfect.
They call it a natural disaster.
They literally said it's a natural disaster that 50 Venezuelans are coming to Martha's Vineyard.
NBC News just had to delete a tweet where they said, quote, it's like going around dropping off the trash anywhere you want to go.
NBC tweeted it out, and they had to drop it.
You have the tweets out there.
It's a real thing.
So it's PR brilliance on behalf of DeSantis.
steve bannon
We started with Kerry Lake and Abe Hamaday.
Turning Point's headquarters here in your big plant is here in Arizona.
You do a bunch of your big conferences.
This Arizona race is so important.
But Kerry Lake sets a new standard for go back and being aggressive against the media.
charlie kirk
Yeah, and Kerry Lake has also, I think, had the appropriate policy response, not PR response, saying, we're going to send them back to Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, not just the Hamptons, Aspen, or Martha's Vineyard.
The race of Kerry Lake, the race of Blake Masters, this is the seminal race in the entire country.
If we can win this back against both, the Uniparty lives in Arizona.
You can see it with kind of squishy Kyrsten Sinema, the McCain family, Jeff Flake.
If we're able to win this, it'll be not just defeating the Democrats in Arizona, But the Republican establishment, Cary Lake and Blake Masters, one of the most important races in the country.
steve bannon
One more time, Charlie, about the conference.
Where do people go?
How do they watch it?
How do they view it?
How do they get here if they still want to come?
charlie kirk
So it'll be airing live on Real America's Voice tonight.
Look, the easiest way is just go to tpusa.com.
All the information is there.
We also have this booklet.
Steve and Jack are on the cover.
You guys can get it for any amount of money to Turning Point USA.
It's tpusa.com.
Chip in a dollar, chip in five, chip in ten.
We'll send it to you.
It's very important you read this book.
It's a message of hope and empowerment.
steve bannon
Why does Posoba get the nice lighting and I'm all the dark?
You're the dark lord.
You're the dark lord over there.
Why always the specter of darkness?
charlie kirk
That's right.
steve bannon
I don't know.
charlie kirk
That's Klaus Schwab.
steve bannon
Charlie Kirk, great that you're putting this on.
Thanks for having War Room here.
Really appreciate it and look forward to the entire weekend.
charlie kirk
See you guys in a couple hours.
steve bannon
There's going to be some surprises.
jack posobiec
Don't say it.
steve bannon
I don't know who it is.
charlie kirk
There's a big surprise.
It will break the internet.
jack posobiec
He's going to say it, isn't he?
steve bannon
No, I'm not.
charlie kirk
You better not say it.
steve bannon
I don't know it.
How can I say it?
charlie kirk
There is a guest that will break the internet.
jack posobiec
Don't tell him.
steve bannon
It's huge.
Okay, I don't know.
Charlie Kirk, thank you.
Jack, you gonna hang around?
jack posobiec
You got a big mouth Irishman over here.
steve bannon
You gonna hang around?
jack posobiec
I'm here, I'm here, I'm here.
charlie kirk
Got a Scott, a Poland, and an Irishman.
steve bannon
I like that.
unidentified
I like the way you finish those bagpipes.
steve bannon
That's a pretty good light move.
And they are live.
It's not recorded.
jack posobiec
Charlie's been practicing.
He's gonna be playing it himself next.
steve bannon
Okay, short break.
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steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
We're at the Phoenix metro area.
We're here for the Turning Point USA conference on the Great Reset about how to confront it.
By the way, this is why Pacific's so good.
Pacific's always thinking about marketing.
jack posobiec
Branding, branding, branding.
steve bannon
You're the best.
That's why you're the king of Twitter.
We've got April Moss, Captain Ben, and April from Real America's Voice.
Why is Real America's Voice here?
What are you going to be covering?
How important is it, this conference on the Great Reset?
unidentified
Yeah, well, we start coverage tonight, 9 p.m.
Eastern, so we are going to be discussing.
Here's what it is.
This is not just a rah-rah event as Charlie just said, but this is about equipping people with real education and tools so that we can put a stop to this globalist agenda that has now infiltrated almost every aspect of our society, Steve.
You know as well as I do with Biden's executive order that just came out this week, September 12th, right?
You read through that thing and basically it's trying to implement this fourth industrial revolution that Klaus Schwab has intended to put the entire world under.
steve bannon
What April was talking about is the executive order.
We're going to have Joe Allen in here in the second hour of the show to go through it because it's very disturbing.
It's actually the executive order that's all about transhumanism.
So yeah, I agree 100%.
April, you came, I think Project Veritas, you did a project with, you're an investigative reporter of Real America's Voice.
You're working on some big things in the Golden State in California.
We're going to try to get April back on tomorrow to talk about some of your investigations, but you're here for both days.
unidentified
I'll be here tonight reporting from the defeat, the Great Reset.
And then again tomorrow, Real America's Voice hosting coverage starting at 12 p.m.
Eastern, so make sure you stay tuned to that.
We are going to have great interviews with the speakers, of course, Charlie Kirk.
I hear Mike Lindell might even make an appearance tomorrow morning as well.
steve bannon
The Mike Lindell.
By the way, Real America's Voice is going to be going back and forth tonight and tomorrow between the Trump rally, J.D.
Vance, and folks out in Ohio and also here in Phoenix at the Turning Point USA.
So Captain Bannon, you and Jane Zirkle, Calamity Jane, she's going to join us in the next hour.
You guys are going to be here.
What are you going to be doing?
Are you going to be interviewing people, doing the spot interviews like we did at the Summit and at CPAC?
maureen bannon
Yes, interviewing the people speaking and also the people in the audience just to get the feel of how they're feeling on the ground.
unidentified
So we're both very excited to be here.
steve bannon
No, the power of what we did at CPAC and at the summit for Mike Lindell, I mean the audience interviews were just fantastic, particularly everybody's jacked up on the precinct strategy, everybody's jacked up on fighting, and this is what this is about.
Your thing, and this is what I like about what you and Charlie set up, This is just not a workshop to learn more about it.
Clearly, we're going to do a deep dive on exactly what is the World Economic Forum.
What is the globalist?
How does the capital markets work?
How does it work with the military and geopolitically?
But the point of this, which Turning Point is so great at, is how do you take activists at the grassroots level and how do you combat it?
You don't have to be in some Wall Street investment bank.
You don't have to be a United States Senator.
You don't have to be Secretary of Defense.
You can do it at a grassroots level.
And that's why this is the really how do you confront and combat the Great Reset.
And this is one of the reasons that you went to Davos early in the year for the now was in May.
It wasn't as traditional January, but you were there and you were you weren't arrested, but you were you were hassled, let's say.
jack posobiec
We were detained, yeah.
We were detained by Klaus Schwab's thugs.
He sent them out after me, my entire crew, as we're filming the docuseries.
So everyone's seen that video of us getting detained, and then of course the great Savannah Hernandez coming over.
And really just popping up and getting in the face of everybody.
They don't realize that we were detained for an entire hour prior to that video.
steve bannon
What were they asking you when you were detained?
jack posobiec
What are you doing here?
What are you filming?
They asked us to see my footage.
steve bannon
This was not Swiss police.
jack posobiec
This was Swiss police.
Swiss police that's assigned to the World Economic Forum.
So it says World Economic Forum on their passes.
And they were asking us for our footage.
steve bannon
They were tactically up-arming.
They were up-arming.
jack posobiec
They had the MP5s, the 9mm rounds, everything.
This was the quick response force.
This wasn't just the plainclothes guys who were going around keeping an eye on things.
I had already talked to them.
And we had already showed them our passes, showed them our passports, told them who we are.
I said, hey, Turning Point USA, you can check them out.
They're fully accredited.
steve bannon
Oh, that's always a great calling card.
And Davos.
Oh yeah, I'm Charlie Kirk's partner.
jack posobiec
They love that.
steve bannon
Let's get a show on here.
jack posobiec
Well, it would have been only one step better if I had said that I was doing that.
No, but you remember, by the way, you remember what you, because I had just done a hit from War Room on the show.
unidentified
Yes.
jack posobiec
And then you just said, you better watch out because Jack Posobiec's on the loose in Tavos.
So I do the end of the hit, you say that, and then within five minutes of me getting off War Room, they send up the two vans, the quick, and these are the guys, by the way, if there's like a terrorist attack that they would send out against them.
So they come after us.
steve bannon
Dude, they consider you a terrorist attack.
Yeah, exactly.
jack posobiec
And they should, by the way, they should.
Because what we're doing here, this is what they don't understand, we haven't even revealed yet any of this documentary.
We put out just a video of it.
Twitter censored the trailer of our docuseries, it's called The Great Global Reset.
We actually go through, I go through, Klaus Schwab's book.
Chapter and verse of the Great Reset, and we combine this from a military perspective, from an economic perspective, of course transhumanism, but even Steve, from the medical perspective, because we get in Norbin Laden, we go to Geneva, we talk about Tedros, we talk about how Woodrow Wilson, we go to the Woodrow Wilson Palace, how he laid out all of this a hundred years ago.
steve bannon
The League of Nations.
jack posobiec
The League of Nations.
And it's all Woodrow Wilson.
Woodrow Wilson Boulevard, Woodrow Wilson Harbor down there, all of this.
But what we've done here, and Charlie's got the great booklet out, so you can get it any donation, any size, tpusa.com, How to Fight Back.
unidentified
T-P-A... T-P... T-P-U-S-A.
steve bannon
T-P-U-S-A dot com.
You can still get tickets if you're in the Metro Phoenix area, anywhere around.
You can also find out how to watch it, and you can watch it on Real America's Voice.
And your documentary's gonna premiere, yes ma'am?
maureen bannon
Oh, I just want to say, if you're not in the Phoenix area, I highly encourage you to go to TPUSA.com and Real America's Voice and tune in for the live coverage, not only today, but also tomorrow.
charlie kirk
Charlie Burke, your founder of Turning Point USA.
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That is why I am giving away my new book for a gift of any amount, even just $1, to get your copy of The Conservative Response to the Great Reset.
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