July 19, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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We're taking on former President Trump, at least when it comes to political endorsements. | |
| On Monday, Pence endorsed Arizona Republican gubernatorial candidate Karen Taylor Robeson, who is going up against the Trump-endorsed Carrie Lake. | ||
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In a statement accepting Pence's endorsement, Robeson wrote, modern politics is full of charlatans and fakes, but VP Pence is the genuine article. | |
| He has never wavered in his conservative beliefs and commitment to our Constitution. | ||
| Well, this is an interesting development. | ||
| So you've got almost, we've got the proxy war in Ukraine. | ||
| Now we've got the proxy war in Arizona. | ||
| The people's president versus the elite's veep, right? | ||
| And who better to respond to this than Carrie Lake herself. | ||
| I wanted to bring her on the program to see if she was available. | ||
| Producer Cameron reached out. | ||
| We found out that she was available. | ||
| We're chatting during the break. | ||
| We got cut off. | ||
| We're on now. | ||
| Carrie Lake, I wanted to bring you in. | ||
| To get your reaction, MSNBC, everybody's talking about how the vice president's coming in. | ||
| He's going to be doing competing rallies now, I believe, is potentially in the cards. | ||
| What's going on in Arizona with all of this? | ||
| And can you respond to this latest endorsement? | ||
| Oh, Arizona is the battleground. | ||
| I mean, right now it is MAGA versus the swamp. | ||
| And I think we know what side the American people are on. | ||
| The swamp creatures are taking their last gasp of breath And trying to hold on for dear life, but they're going to get flushed away in this election. | ||
| And, you know, we're seeing it. | ||
| They're starting to talk a big game. | ||
| Obviously, MSNBC doesn't understand the world of MAGA and America First politics, which is the only way, frankly, out of the mess that the swamp got us into. | ||
| And they're thinking that rolling out somebody like Doug Ducey or Mike Pence will do the job. | ||
| I mean, these guys are the laughingstock, frankly. | ||
| of politics right now. | ||
| The people have turned on them because they turned on the people. | ||
| And my opponent has never been even close to catching up with us in the polls. | ||
| They're trying to act like she's tightening her, you know, her stance with us and getting close to us. | ||
| But all of our internal polling shows were up 11, 12, 13 points all over the state, even in areas that are a little bit swampier that maybe you'd think she would be doing better. | ||
| she still can't pull ahead and can't even come close to us. | ||
| So we're ready for it, Jack. | ||
| We've got all eyes on this election. | ||
| We know they're going to try to cheat again. | ||
| We've got the attorneys out and we've got eyeballs everywhere ready to catch them in action. | ||
| And now, of course, we know that, unfortunately, President Trump had to delay his rally. | ||
| He was going to hold it, I think, Saturday last week. | ||
| But, of course, with the passing of Ivana Trump, it was delayed. | ||
| But correct me if I'm wrong, he is going to be coming in on Friday now. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| Yes, he is. | ||
| And anybody who's interested in coming can go to DonaldJTrump.com and sign up for this amazing rally. | ||
| It's going to be held in Prescott Valley, which is one of our great City's a little bit north of Phoenix and it's a lot cooler up there. | ||
| And you know, I think it's actually good that it was delayed because since it was delayed, we've had these two swamp creatures come out and get behind my rhino opponent. | ||
| So it's just going to up the game and it's going to make it even more exciting. | ||
| We're so looking forward here in Arizona to welcoming president Donald J. Trump. | ||
| You know, when you go out there and you meet voters, right. | ||
| And I hear this and I, and, and, you know, so now I'm asking you as a, as a reporter, right. | ||
| And you're with your other, your other hat on that when they're, there's sort of this idea, and I'm just trying to understand the calculus for, for Pence here. | ||
| And does he want to run? | ||
| Does he, uh, in 24, is he looking at something? | ||
| Nikki Haley, of course, making some statements recently, but it, do you get a sense that there's people in the Republican party in Arizona that think it's time to, uh, say goodbye to president Trump? | ||
| What did Nikki Hale, they say his, his time has come and gone. | ||
| He's isolated. | ||
| But when you're out there, you're meeting voters, you're on the trail. | ||
| Is that the sense you get that, that, uh, the 2016, the MAGA era is over and they want to put a close on it and then move on to something else, or is that still where people are? | ||
| No, it's just the opposite. | ||
| And it's funny because that's the narrative that my rhino opponent is trying to push out there. | ||
| And it's not the reality on the ground. | ||
| This is a very patriotic state. | ||
| This is a state that, remember, the patriots in this state are the ones that stood up on November 4th, the day after that botched, stolen election and said, we demand answers. | ||
| And they worked and worked and worked and they rallied and they protested until they got a forensic audit. | ||
| So we're really the state that got it all going. | ||
| And now we're seeing how widespread the corruption is. | ||
| So this is a very pro-Trump state. | ||
| Remember, we had that 96-mile Trump train that started organically before that last election, and people still love President Trump here because he loves America. | ||
| And frankly, Jack, his policies work. | ||
| And whether you loved President Trump, like the majority of people, or even if you didn't, you have to admit, looking back three, four years ago, Your life was so much better under the America First policies. | ||
| And that's simply what we're going to do here in Arizona. | ||
| I'm going to bring America First policies to Arizona. | ||
| We're going to secure the border like it was secure with President Trump, maybe even more secure. | ||
| And we're going to bring some common sense policies to Arizona. | ||
| And for once and for all, push back on the McCain machine, which is still kind of running in this state, although it's really on its last gasp. | ||
| And we're going to bring back a government of We the People. | ||
| Well, I know that you've made border security a huge part of your campaign. | ||
| I saw your last campaign ad where you're blowing the cartel drone out of the sky. | ||
| I thought that was awesome. | ||
| But I did want to bring that up because I've spent, so when I was in the military, I spent some time at Fort Huachuca, which is right down there, Sierra Vista, right on the border down south of Tucson. | ||
| And I've seen the issues with our porous border down there to the point where, and at this point, and this was under the Obama administration when I was there, | ||
| that you would even see illegals and some of these caravans and coyotes coming even onto the military base itself and I wanted to ask you a question because something that we've seen in these border towns and this actually believe it or not came up in the Uvalde shooting investigation so I'm not throwing you a fastball here but what I'm what I'll explain what I mean because | ||
| The reason they said that the police response was not so urgent immediately when they got a lockdown order for the school was because that school had been locked down 47 times already that year prior to the school shooting, including the day before. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because of what they call bailouts. | ||
| And I said, well, what's a bailout? | ||
| And I go to this next section of the report. | ||
| And it says a bailout is when the illegals and the human traffickers are coming across the border, they're being chased by police, they're being chased by law enforcement, they crash the car, and then everyone pops out of the car and runs, right? | ||
| see run and scatter in different directions so that people can't catch you. | ||
| Yet some of them are armed in some of these cases, some of them are dangerous, and so they order school lockdowns. | ||
| Kerry, this happened 47 times at that Uvalde school just this year prior to the shooting. | ||
| That's just one school, that's just one border town. | ||
| But for me, and that's right at the nexus over in, obviously in Texas, you know, a couple states over from you, but it's right at the human smuggling corridor that we've seen from Del Rio and Eagle Pass. | ||
| But flipping it back to Arizona, you are a border state. | ||
| You're here. | ||
| We're hearing about things like this that are going on. | ||
| What could you potentially do as a governor to try to bring some semblance of law and order back to these border towns? | ||
| Because these are our children at the end of the day. | ||
| Yeah, we have the same situation happening here in Arizona every day, all day. | ||
| I mean, ask Sheriff Mark Daniels down in Cochise County. | ||
| They have this going on all the time. | ||
| The gotaways there, the bailouts, they're being chased. | ||
| I think the chases are up three or four hundred percent, maybe even higher than that. | ||
| Lawlessness complete lawlessness, and it's not just on our border. | ||
| It's starting to move for northward into our cities as well We've got murder rates spiking to the highest they've ever been It's lawlessness here in Arizona and in Texas as well. | ||
| And we're done. | ||
| And the governors can do a lot. | ||
| They can do everything. | ||
| They just have to invoke their Article 1, Section 10 powers, which is basically the ability to protect the border and to secure the border. | ||
| And that's what we're going to do on day one when we declare an invasion in Arizona. | ||
| We have an invasion in this country like we've never seen before on our homeland. | ||
| And it takes one strong governor to stand up and do the right thing. | ||
| We're going to do that on day one. | ||
| We're going to resume constructing President Trump's wall, and we're going to immediately get boots on the ground. | ||
| Arizona National Guard will ask sheriffs to help as well, and all law enforcement to help out. | ||
| And when we catch somebody coming across, they're heading right back the other way. | ||
| We're not going to take them in. | ||
| We're not going to give them shelter. | ||
| We're heading them back across the border, and we're going to play hardball with Mexico, just like President Trump did. | ||
| He showed us how to do it, but we don't have any strong people who are willing to take that on. | ||
| And I am. | ||
| And our border plan is the strongest, most bold border plan this country has ever seen. | ||
| It will work. | ||
| And of course they're going to fight us, Jack. | ||
| I mean, day one, they'll probably start rolling out the lawsuits and who knows what Joe Biden will do. | ||
| But we're willing to take that fight and we're willing to take it right up to the Supreme Court. | ||
| And we know in the end we will win because it says it right there in plain language in the United States Constitution. | ||
| And it's just so amazing to me that when you look at some of these, and we were talking earlier on the program about sort of just the basic idea, right? | ||
| The basic idea for why do we have government? | ||
| Do we have government because of this idea we want to pool our resources and share things and this socialist idea? | ||
| No, not exactly. | ||
| But there are certain services where it makes sense. | ||
| The fire department, law enforcement, right? | ||
| We want collective defense. | ||
| Well, when you're hearing things like bailouts and gotaways in places where there's children present, right, and that this leads to a lackadaisical response, obviously a response that goes completely insane with 400 officers, in or in, uh, you've all deed not being able to actually go in and, and you neutralize the threat in a way that I think that everybody wants, right? And of course, we're going to see prosecutions and investigations over there, but we also have to | ||
| understand that this situation is something that we can control as a government and as a society. All it's exactly to your point. | ||
| All we need to do is elect the right people who have the mindset of, we're going to put people first and we're going to defend people first. | ||
| If it's a policing situation, we bring the police in and we have good police. | ||
| We don't have corrupt police. | ||
| We don't have bad police. | ||
| And if it's a situation that goes beyond that, of course, that's the entire purpose of the National Guard. | ||
| That's why when I was in the military, I used to say things like, that's why we have these things. | ||
| That's why we have our jobs, right? | ||
| Because we are there to defend the American people. | ||
| Period. | ||
| Well, and you talk to any man or woman in the military right now, and you ask them, would you rather be down on our southern border securing the United States or over in Ukraine helping out there? | ||
| 100% of them would say, I'd rather be in our own country helping secure our border. | ||
| And we're going to get help from other states, Jack. | ||
| Part of my plan is to have an interstate compact with other states, ask them to send their state national guard To our border, have them help with resources and any information they can provide us. | ||
| Because look, this is a 50 state problem. | ||
| The fentanyl pouring into Arizona doesn't remain here. | ||
| It goes all over. | ||
| And drug seizures are way up. | ||
| This is a weapon of mass destruction. | ||
| I've been saying that since I got into this race. | ||
| When you're sending in tons of fentanyl and what we've confiscated already could kill two and a half billion people. | ||
| Frankly, that's a weapon of mass destruction, and I take that very seriously. | ||
| Our government should. | ||
| They are not. | ||
| But we will, starting in January of 23 in Arizona, shut this operation down. | ||
| Well, and this also gets to a point that, you know, when I was down there again, and I heard this time and again from Border Patrol, Homeland Security folks I had talked to, they said this idea that there's the border and then there's the true border, right? | ||
| And what do they mean by that? | ||
| The true border is the one that keeps going north and north and north. | ||
| Because you're finding cartel safe houses, you're finding shootouts, you're finding these trafficking corridors, you're finding some of these towns who unfortunately do have corruption. | ||
| You do have a problem with some local politicians there that are on the take from these cartels. | ||
| It's just a fact. | ||
| It is a fact of life because when you have these drug smuggling operations, There's money, there's cash to be had. | ||
| Look, we've all seen Breaking Bad, right? | ||
| We've all seen Sicario, right? | ||
| We've seen some of the films that have at least broached this issue, but we also have to understand that it creates a public policy situation, right? | ||
| And what's amazing to me is that we could have things like this and yet not actually talk about it. | ||
| Got one minute left. | ||
| Carrie, it seems to me like you're talking about finishing the Trump agenda, and yet I hear Vice President Pence seems like he's against that for some reason. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| You know, they thought they defeated President Trump in that last election, but the patriotic people of America and Arizona said, nah, not so fast. | ||
| We're going to dig to the bottom of that and find out what was behind that. | ||
| And it turns out it was a corrupt election and we caught them and we will seek justice someday. | ||
| And they're nervous about me because of that. | ||
| They've been found out. | ||
| They've been figured out and they're going to try it again, but they're painted into a corner because when they try to cheat again, they're going to get caught. | ||
| And, uh, they just, they thought they finished up with president Trump and they moved him on out. | ||
| And what has happened is a whole legacy of leaders that president Trump inspired myself included, who are not willing to let go of America, who are not willing to let this country falter. | ||
| And we're going to save it each and every one. | ||
| Alright, Carey Lake for Governor. | ||
| And Carey Lake, by the way, great hits on Tim Kool recently. | ||
| I loved him. | ||
| Take care. | ||
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| I wanted to bring on though, now we were talking about a story yesterday here on the program about this police shooting in Minneapolis, right? | ||
| Teckley-Sunberg. | ||
| I got the name right. | ||
| Teckley-Sunberg. | ||
| And we had Drew Hernandez on yesterday and we were asking why did the police take the shot, right? | ||
| So this guy and BLM is out there. | ||
| They're protesting. | ||
| They're raising money. | ||
| They said police shot him. | ||
| It was an execution. | ||
| They never would have done that if the suspect was white. | ||
| It never would have happened, right? | ||
| They're raising money. | ||
| Ben Crump is already involved. | ||
| And I remember I was going through the timeline on this, and Drew Hernandez had done a great job from Frontlines of putting together a timeline as we had it at the moment. | ||
| But we knew there was this six-hour period Wherein, the police were discussing, you know, negotiating with the suspect, and we knew that there was some kind of negotiation going on. | ||
| Okay, so what happened during those six hours, and why did they take the shot? | ||
| The family was saying, right, throughout all of this, and as they're raising money, they've hired Ben Crump, and he's, this was the Floyd lawyer, and Ferguson, etc., etc. | ||
| He's always teleports to these things, right? | ||
| And then, we got a report, an ISIL report, from Julio Rosas, the senior writer over at Town Hall and he has exciting breaking scoop on what actually went down because of his sources within the Minneapolis Police Department. I said, you gotta come on and break this down for us. So we have him on today. Yeah, thanks for having me, Jack. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And for folks who don't know, Hooli and I met, you know, kind of in the streets in 2020, covering different BLM and TIFA type activity, whether here in D.C. | ||
| or outside. | ||
| We were in Chaz together in Seattle, you know, night and day out there. | ||
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Good times. | |
| Good times. | ||
| K-Pozo, saw people. | ||
| Setting stuff on fire, climbing all over the place. | ||
| Yeah, absolute, absolute good times. | ||
| But I'm really, you know, just... Congratulations, by the way, on your scoop. | ||
| And if you can, break down for people what it is that you've been able to reveal about this situation that absolutely, in my mind, debunks everything that this guy Ben Crump is saying. | ||
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Right, and as you pointed out, it's not just activists and random protesters. | |
| His own family is saying that if it was not for the fact that he was a black man experiencing a mental health crisis, the Minneapolis Police Department would not have killed him and they would have actually been able to talk him down. | ||
| But I talked with my sources within the department. | ||
| Let me let me mention, by the way, for the context, right? | ||
| This was the video we played yesterday where the mother was screaming at the activists. | ||
| This guy shot at me. | ||
| He shot at my children. | ||
| He shot into our apartment as we were moving and we showed the bullet holes inside her bathroom. | ||
| That's the context of all this. | ||
| He was shooting up people's homes. | ||
| He was shooting at a mother and her small children. | ||
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Right, exactly. | |
| And so when it came to the six-hour standoff, once police were able to evacuate the building and that family, they engaged in a six-hour standoff with them. | ||
| And from what I'm told, not only did they actually use a PA system, not only did they try to call him on his cell phone, they also did allow the father to go on the PA system. | ||
| And obviously, the family did try to call him on his cell phone as well. | ||
| Except for most of the time, whenever they tried to engage With Tekle, he would actually turn up the volume on music he was playing in the room that he was in so that he wouldn't hear either the cell phone ring or the voices outside the PA system. | ||
| In addition to that, the one time that they were actually able to get him on the cell phone, I'm told that he was incoherent. | ||
| He sounded like he was talking to somebody else in the room and he was just yelling kind of random obscenities. | ||
| And one of my sources said that he just, you know, the shooter was just not Gonna negotiate. | ||
| I mean, they were standing out there again for six hours and trying to throughout the night. | ||
| And once again, I am told that the reason why the snipers did finally, you know, made the decision to take him out was because he was moving to basically start shooting again. | ||
| And after, you know, he already expended multiple rounds earlier. | ||
| So this wasn't a situation where cops just show up and just start firing your guns blazing right, right out the outset. | ||
| I mean, they did. | ||
| Everything that they could from what we can see from videos that were taken that night from the Citizen app to, you know, to even, you know, the dad of Tekle to try to calm him down, to try to de-escalate the situation. | ||
| But now they're turning it on the police department, the family of Tekle, because the dad wanted to go actually into the building itself to try to talk to him more directly. | ||
| And one of my sources said that that was just a terrible idea because not only was he firing blindly through walls. | ||
| Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. | ||
| Because he was firing through walls and doors. | ||
| So, I mean, he could have ended up shooting his own father if he didn't believe that he was coming in. | ||
| Or, you know, another worst case scenario would have been that it could have turned into a hostage situation. | ||
| So, I mean, this is not at all a situation like George Floyd. | ||
| Heck, this isn't even like a situation where, you know, like Jacob Blake. | ||
| But, I mean, even in that case, you know, that was also a justified police shooting. | ||
| Uh, but this was from, from, from what, from the evidence that we have so far, it seemed like that they made every attempt to avoid, uh, actually shooting him. | ||
| And, you know, we're going to get the body camera footage. | ||
| They say it's going to take some time because there's over 50 police officers. | ||
| So you take that with six hours. | ||
| So that's gonna be hundreds of hours of footage that they're gonna have to go through. | ||
| Uh, but all, you know, available evidence that we have right now indicates that this was not just, you know, white cops in Minneapolis, just trying to gun down just an innocent black man. | ||
| No, and in fact, as far as I know, we don't actually know the races of the snipers or the negotiators or any of the people involved, but Julio, just in some of these basic points, right? | ||
| Some of the basic points that are so easily debunkable, right, which you have already done, which video from the Citizen app has already done, why the lies? | ||
| Why is Ben Crump doing this? | ||
| Why is he putting the city of Minneapolis, which of course was the epicenter of the BLM riots of 2020, why is he trying to do this again? | ||
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Because it's just standard practice at this point. | |
| Because it's just, from the outset, from 2020, it's just that they've created this environment where it's profitable for them to get involved, to stir up racial aminus, Animosity towards police and towards citizens of Minneapolis and other cities because the culture has shifted dramatically to where, understandably, you always have to be skeptical. | ||
| It's wise to be skeptical when it comes to police department claims and everything, and that's why we have body camera footage so that we can actually figure out for ourselves what's happening in these situations. | ||
| But it's been taken to the extreme to where automatically we're just going to not believe Uh, the police department were not going to, you know, despite the available evidence that still, you know, they're going to say that, uh, that they're lying. | ||
| And it even seems like the father kind of changed the story a little bit or, or made it seem like, uh, he wasn't able to engage with tech way, uh, at all, which of course wasn't the case. | ||
| So, I mean, it's, it's just that it's profitable. | ||
| I mean, you look at, I mean, the money, uh, that's been pouring in, I mean, uh, the George Floyd family got, I think it was a $27 million in a settlement with the city. | ||
| So, I mean, if they see an opportunity to make- Which, of course, Ben Crump gets a cut of. | ||
| Right, right, exactly. | ||
| Which, of course, he gets a cut of that. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| So, it's just, it's a profitable scheme right now, and I'm not saying that there isn't instances of police misconduct at all, but, I mean, it's just in this case, especially with the Minneapolis Police Department, it seemed like this was a good shoot. | ||
| No, to me it looks like Ben Crump and the activists here, they are using this as a sales funnel, right? | ||
| They see these incidents, they see some of the videos, they hear what happened, and they realize that they can use this as a way to essentially get to that settlement. | ||
| It's all about that settlement at the end. | ||
| But you actually wrote a book documenting a lot of what you saw in 2020 and all of these situations. | ||
| Tell me about that a little bit. | ||
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Yeah, so I mean, basically, the whole reason why it's your earlier question about like, why they're doing this is because of the culture and the culture was set because of the riots that happened in 2020. | |
| Because I mean, again, as you said, it happened in Minneapolis, you know, what happened with George Floyd shouldn't have happened, but it did. | ||
| But again, things were taken to the extreme. | ||
| And it just repeated itself throughout basically the rest of the year, where whenever there was a perceived instance of police misconduct, the automatic response was just to riot. | ||
| And so I went everywhere from Minneapolis to, we were in Chaz, Kenosha, Louisville, Wauwatosa, Wisconsin, just all across the country, because there were just riots that would just happen in the name of social justice, in the name of racial equity, when in a lot of those cases, it was minorities who suffered the most. | ||
| Well, that's actually, you were. | ||
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Proper damage. | |
| Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were actually there in Kenosha the night of the Carl Rittenhouse shooting. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, I was Kyle Rittenhouse was in the middle of the street. | |
| I was on the other side of the street when the second half of the shooting when he shot Anthony Huber and Gage Grosskreutz in self-defense. | ||
| This is when the crowd is chasing him down the street at this point. | ||
| So you weren't in the initial parking lot, but as the crowd is chasing him down, then they came up to basically where you were? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| You know, it was right after he shot Joseph Rosenbaum, again in self-defense, and probably my claim to fame with that case is that it was my video that caught Rosenbaum slinging the N-word around to people. | ||
| You did. | ||
| You did get it all right. | ||
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It was a hectic year. | |
| Julia Rosa, go check out the book, Fiery but Mostly Peaceful, and then follow him, senior writer, Town Hall. | ||
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| All right, Stephen K. Bannon, they've just broken for lunch. | ||
| Over. | ||
| In. | ||
| The Freddie Mann courthouse, the federal courthouse. | ||
| I'll probably get a head over, right? | ||
| Check out the courtroom after the show today. | ||
| But we know that he's over there fighting the regime, facing them head on. | ||
| They just denied his request for continuance, but we know that some of these executive privilege issues are going to potentially come up during this trial. | ||
| Jury selection still isn't even over, by the way. | ||
| That's how bad things are going. | ||
| That's how bad the prosecution is in terms of all of this. | ||
| But we are here and we are going to make sure that we're covering it real time every single possible breaking update. | ||
| I also have to give a shout out because I have just been informed, I've just been informed over the break by a very special source that I have. | ||
| That Baby AJ is once again watching Dada on the show today. | ||
| And so, hi Baby AJ, Dada will be home soon. | ||
| But before I can get home, I have to bring on this next guest, and it's Tyler Boyer. | ||
| Believe it or not, he's the COO of Turning Point Action. | ||
| Because I had Charlie Kirk on yesterday, and then we also had Dan Schultz, and we've heard how CNN and the establishment in general is going after the precinct project, precinct strategy, right? | ||
| They're saying, we can't have anybody going after these. | ||
| This is terrible that people are getting into their democracy. | ||
| People are going to be running for office and taking over the parties. | ||
| And we can't have anybody from the war room that's ever getting involved in politics. | ||
| That would just be disastrous for democracy. | ||
| Play it out. | ||
| If average people were getting up off their couches and getting involved in democracy. | ||
| And so I wanted to bring Tyler on because, Tyler, that's pretty much your job, isn't it? | ||
| Getting people off their couches and getting them involved in democracy. | ||
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Yeah, you know, Jack, and you've been such an instrumental leader, I want to say, with us at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action, where we work specifically day in and day out. | |
| I know the audience here Knows Dan Schultz really well. | ||
| I've actually known Dan for almost going on about a dozen years here in Arizona, where we've had the grassroots working for a long time trying to talk the party into, hey, you've got to focus on getting the precincts filled. | ||
| And we're moving the dial. | ||
| We're making moves. | ||
| But Turning Point Action, I kind of view as rounding up the younger side of what the precinct project has been so good at doing, which is making people totally aware Of, of this thing, which is that the only way for, for the party to be saved is for individuals to get up off their butts, get off the couch and get involved today. | ||
| And you know, if there's one thing that's come from the Trump era, it's that people are realized, uh, in this battle for election integrity that we're seeing in four key States in particular, that you've got it, you've got to do this. | ||
| And so, uh, we have staff full time and, and Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Ohio, and Florida in particular, where our big focus is, is get individuals, particularly younger people. | ||
| When I say younger people, I mean, you know, 40s, 50s year olds. | ||
| And, you know, obviously people are my age and our age that are in their 20s and 30s to actually get involved and start rocking and rolling so that we can take back the party and save the country. | ||
| One of the the interesting things that I've seen is that turning point action so this this is sort of the this is the c4 arm this is the political action arm because we've all seen what Charlie's done over at turning point from the c3 side the chapter chair the chapters on every campus and yesterday he was telling us that at sass which is coming up Just a couple of days, right, in Tampa, that the chapters are going to take a main focus here. | ||
| But what Turning Point Action is now doing is taking all of that incredible organization, that same idea, but then turning it into a political action arm. | ||
| So you mentioned a few states there. | ||
| What are some of the other really key states that you're doing? | ||
| And then walk us through some of the operations that Turning Point Action is going to commit to during these midterms or ahead of the midterms. | ||
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Well, look, Jack, I served, so I got elected this last time to the Republican National Committee. | |
| And so I'm actually the national committeeman also for the state of Arizona on the RNC. | ||
| And so many people would agree and say, hey, the RNC has done very little to focus on the precincts, uh, and, and take it back. | ||
| And, you know, that, that's not a, that's not a, a wrong, you know, observation. | ||
| It's, it's the party apparatus in general hasn't. | ||
| Because as we know, we've talked about, and I know Dan's talked about time and time again, that the establishment does not want real grassroots people in because that makes, you start holding people accountable that run for office. | ||
| And you start challenging people for their offices and they don't want that. | ||
| They want to box that out. | ||
| And so you look at what's happened in states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, and let's focus particularly on Arizona and Georgia, where you've had the establishment basically try to take that state over. | ||
| Those are two individual states, and box everybody out. | ||
| And so the bench has been really weak. | ||
| And we've seen that during the McCain area, and we're seeing that with some of the individuals who won their primaries in Georgia, is that they're trying to keep everybody out because the last thing that they want is for somebody to come in and take over their job and do it better. | ||
| And so, look, the reality is this, is that we have a ton of incredibly smart grassroots individuals. | ||
| And I'm excited because there's a lot of jack, Ask and jack followers that are out there that are wanting to get more involved. | ||
| And that's what we need in the younger era. | ||
| That's what we need from our people that are sub-40 years old, which is, hey, I know you're having kids, I know you got a job, I know you've got all these things going on, but spend a little bit of time, after you go to church and you're raising your kids right, spend a little bit of time saving the country and giving back. | ||
| And that's what we need you to do as a precinct committeeman And particularly Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Michigan, because if we don't save those states, there's a really tough pathway to the presidency in 2024. | ||
| And so we've got to take those states back now while we have the opportunity, particularly in 2022, where this is a huge opportunity for us to take back ground. | ||
| Well, in looking at those states particularly, but also we know, of course, this is a 50-state question and that a question, of course, is election integrity, right? | ||
| And we all know the issues. | ||
| We all know the issues from Arizona, from Maricopa, where of course, where you're from. | ||
| But looking forward, what is Turning Point Action doing? | ||
| What can Turning Point Action do, or people just at the precinct level in general, when it comes to election integrity? | ||
| And I think that we've seen, you know, to kind of answer my question a little bit, that we've seen that it really is the personnel that matter so much at these local levels when it comes to the conduct and the carrying out of our elections. | ||
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Well, look, I mean, I don't want to break any news here, but, um, you know, the executive board for, uh, the executive committee for this, the Republican party of Arizona. | |
| And so most people here are aware that the Republican party in Arizona is pretty conservative at this point. | ||
| Leadership is, is far more conservative. | ||
| We're seeing the other states follow suit right now. | ||
| And this is all thanks to taking over the precincts. | ||
| But look, I mean, we had a Speaker of the House who is a moderate. | ||
| His name is Rusty Bowers. | ||
| He's terrible. | ||
| He doesn't work with the party. | ||
| He doesn't respect or care about the grass roots. | ||
| And he doesn't care about election. | ||
| No relation, right? | ||
| What's that? | ||
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He's Bowers. | |
| Yeah, I'm Boyer. | ||
| It's spelled wrong on there. | ||
| I have a Y in my name. | ||
| Oh, did I spell it wrong? | ||
| Yeah, it's okay. | ||
| I don't want to be confused with Rusty Bowers. | ||
| No, we'll take care of that. | ||
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We'll take care of that for you. | |
| I got your back. | ||
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Thanks, Jack. | |
| But you have a really terrible individual. | ||
| So tonight, you know, the Republican Party's meeting is going to be considering officially censuring to help with removal of Rusty Bowers, not only from leadership, but from public office in the future. | ||
| And this type of stuff is really important, right? | ||
| Is if you take over the Republican Party apparatus, you can start really influencing the general public of like, hey, this is a bad person who doesn't care about election integrity, doesn't care about you, and we have to scoot them out of here very quickly. | ||
| And that's what we've done in Arizona. | ||
| And that's what people can do if they take over their precincts, if they take over their local GOP apparatus, which is what we need, is to start taking back ground and holding these people accountable. | ||
| No, that's exactly right. | ||
| Look, we've seen this time and again with, look at Liz Cheney as an example of this, right? | ||
| Her own party, censoring her, moving to remove her. | ||
| You've got her primary challenger is, I think, double digit lead, last time I checked, or even more than that. | ||
| We're seeing the numbers where they need to be in state by state, but we also need people inside the party at that level Who can actually execute, because the administration, right, or the establishment, whatever it is, right, and you're seeing this, by the way, with your beloved governor, Doug Ducey, coming out and essentially throwing cold water over all the MAGA movement, over Trump, over all of this. | ||
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He's the worst. | |
| I mean, look, the Harriet example, Hageman in Wyoming is exactly the party apparatus also working. | ||
| Wyoming is one of those states where the conservatives took over. | ||
| The chair there is an incredible dude. | ||
| And he, uh, yeah, what they have done is they've gone in and people don't realize this, but the party, if you take over the party, you can basically say, Hey, we're not going to support, uh, you know, the incumbent. | ||
| And that's what they did. | ||
| And so part of the reason why Liz Cheney is in such trouble is because good people with, with some real, you know, backbone stepped up. | ||
| And they said, hey, we're not going to elect this girl again. | ||
| And she's done. | ||
| And that's part of the reason why it's almost impossible for her to win, is because the party has done that. | ||
| Because no resources from any Republican apparatus can come in and support her as an incumbent. | ||
| And these are important things that are... Sorry, go ahead. | ||
| Oh, no, sorry. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Do me a great job. | ||
| But look, we have a couple of minutes left. | ||
| And I wanted to also say to Tyler, I will, I know, see you later this week at Turning Point Actions. | ||
| Focus of where Turning Point Action is actually also hosting, right? | ||
| Part of SAS down in Tampa. | ||
| And actually bringing to stage, I think the only stage in the entire country this summer, possibly this whole year, where Governor Ron DeSantis and President Trump are going to be appearing together. | ||
| And you and I were talking about it a little bit during the break. | ||
| Tell me, how are ticket sales? | ||
| What's the convention center atmosphere look like as you're looking at it? | ||
| What are some of the things that you're looking at going into this incredible immersive experience as Turning Point Sass really turns the center of the conservative galaxy You have hit the nail on the head. | ||
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I think we're the only stage in America that's hosting both Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump in the same event on the same stage. | |
| And so, yeah, we're really excited to have Governor DeSantis and President Trump both speaking. | ||
| We have a packed house. | ||
| It's literally, we have the capacity. | ||
| We actually, I just was talking to Lauren who is in charge of the event and Charlie and We have the capacity to extend out a little bit, because it's a convention center. | ||
| But we're going to have a hyped room. | ||
| And you've been in there, Jack, you know. | ||
| You've been in AmericaFest, their Student Action Summit. | ||
| There's nothing that comes close to the energy that we bring in there. | ||
| And the entire reason why we do it is to hype everybody up for this, for this year, to get out and kick butt and take action. | ||
| So we're really, really excited for it this weekend. | ||
| As Steve would say, signal not noise, don't bury the lead. | ||
| You're telling me that you guys are reaching out, so Turning Point is now reaching out to the convention center to see if you can expand the event, flex out the event, because of the influx of people that you have coming to see Governor DeSantis and President Trump, and of course myself. | ||
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Yeah, we have people from all 50 states, including from Jack's house in the outside areas of D.C. | |
| From everywhere and we're really excited. | ||
| I mean we people love this stuff I mean who doesn't who doesn't want to see the top speakers and The the hype the top hype men for the movement all one place and on top of that we do training We have significant training. | ||
| We have actually a precinct committee men recruitment with some of these young people from all over the country Really teaching people of hey, this is what this is all about And and really moving the ball down the field and so if you haven't had a chance if you're in Florida Yeah, tpaction.com slash sass. | ||
| You can go get your tickets now and join us with Governor DeSantis and President Trump for something I think that will really inspire you. | ||
| All right, go to your training, and then you get to have your entertainment. | ||
| The whole convention center, that really whole area, just becomes this conservative center of the universe, putting shoulder to the wheel. | ||
| So important. | ||
| Tyler Porter, thank you so much. | ||
| We're going to close it out. | ||
| We're going to go back to Dr. Birx and break down the shadow government that she was running during the Trump administration. | ||
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| No more censorship. No more cancel culture. Enough. Getter has arrived. It's time to say what you want, the way you want. Download now. When the government told us that the vaccine couldn't transmit it, was that a lie or was that a guess? | ||
| Or is it the same answer? | ||
| I think it was hope that the vaccine would work in that way. | ||
| And that's why I think scientists and public health leaders always have to be at the table, being very clear what we know and what we don't know. | ||
| This is important for the country to know. | ||
| So when I asked the question, when the government told us that the vaccinated couldn't get it, and I asked you if it was a guess or a lie, you said you don't know. | ||
| You said you think it was hope. | ||
| So what we do know is it wasn't the truth. | ||
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So they were either guessing, lying, or hoping. | |
| And communicating that information to the citizens of this country. | ||
| Guessing, lying, or hoping. | ||
| Okay, final segment here on War Room. | ||
| I want to bring on Jeffrey Tucker, the president of the Brownstone Institute. | ||
| Jeffrey, it's really been your reporting that has opened my eyes up to this Dr. Birx travesty. | ||
| That's when I started digging into her book. | ||
| You were one of the first people on this, and walk us through your theory of the case that she created essentially a shadow government Which enabled her to be able to use this apparatus, her with Fauci and Pence was involved, of course, obviously, as well, to put out this line about vaccines being able to stop the transmission and then coming back and admitting that they didn't actually have any data that showed that. | ||
| OK, so let's think about the timeline a little bit here. | ||
| You know, that comment about vaccines is interesting because one of the weird things that comes out of the Burke's book is that she was never a Much of a believer in the vaccine. | ||
| She always thought that they would probably not work very well. | ||
| And she wanted permanent lockdowns. | ||
| In other words, a lot of people saw the vaccines as the way to get out of lockdowns. | ||
| She didn't believe that. | ||
| She always thought you'd have to stay in lockdowns forever, as far as I can tell. | ||
| So when she's referring to people advertising that the vaccines would stop infection and transmission, she's really talking about Fauci and Walensky and these kind of things. | ||
| So when she says it was a hope, She's really describing them, that they were hoping, but she'd been reading the EUAs and seeing very clearly early on that they weren't going to work. | ||
| What's creepy about Burks is that she's even worse than what you described, even from early, from middle of the March. | ||
| I mean, she was the one who ultimately convinced Trump to green light the lockdowns, right? | ||
| And we know this from her own account from March 11th, March 12th, and all the way through the 16th. | ||
| But when Trump began to realize he had been sort of hornswoggled by her, uh, he started urging the country to open up, uh, because he knew that, uh, the American people were suffering and the Trump economy was being destroyed. | ||
| She, uh, went into full, full time, full action to subvert and, and, uh, uh, and make it, make it impossible for Trump to achieve his, his aims. | ||
| She essentially became the effective head. | ||
| of a shadow government that was fully operational between March 20th and then all the way until the middle of December of that year, where she, and she has hundreds of pages in her book about this, would weekly alter the data reports that the White House was sending to the states. | ||
| She was flying around from state to state. | ||
| She convinced Abbott in Texas to impose a mask mandate. | ||
| and intensify capacity restrictions as well. | ||
| She was a full-down lockdowner for the entire year at the same time that Trump was on the stump, you know, arguing for opening and saying, this has got to stop. | ||
| This is a ridiculous. | ||
| Well, and I, and I, and I remember this, right? | ||
| We remember this sort of mismatched strategy where you would get President Trump going, and keep in mind he's campaigning for re-election at this time, he'd be at a rally talking about how we're going to open up and the lockdowns are going to end, and then the task force would come out and say, no, we need more lockdowns and now we're moving to vaccines. | ||
| But it wasn't just Birx involved in this, was it? | ||
| Because you had Fauci and then you had Pence as well sort of overtop the entire apparatus. | ||
| You had really, essentially, the entire administrative state. | ||
| So the entire NIH and CDC and Department of Health and Human Services and the entire bureaucratic state was entirely organized against Trump, who, I'm sorry to say it, and you felt this too, because you were watching this very carefully at the time, he was president in name only, right? | ||
| They were glad to have him out on the campaign trail and announcing this and announcing that, But there was a huge operation to disable his capacity to govern from March all the way to the election. | ||
| And he began to sniff this out, too, because he would try to hire certain employees of the CDC and open things up. | ||
| Get some rational thinking, especially because Scott Atlas showed up and... The villain of the book, her villain, the antagonist of Scott Atlas. | ||
| Well, let me tell you, that man saved the world as far as I'm concerned. | ||
| I mean, what he did was brave and bold. | ||
| I mean, how many of us have walked into the belly of the beast and just told them what we really think about everything? | ||
| I mean, that's exactly what Scott Atlas did. | ||
| So she had to kill him, and she's still trying to kill him. | ||
| But actually, her book inadvertently makes him a great | ||
| uh... hero uh... for the ages and reveals herself to be uh... you know they really confession it it does and you know what troubles me most about this in this book has been out a while and i kind of got threatened to detail and i wondered how it is that she believes that she can get away with this i've had countless people very smart people who know what's what say isn't what she's admitting to | ||
| Illegal and I don't really know the answer to that but a more profound question is like why does she think? | ||
| That there's no payback for this and the reason is that she among many other people so convinced that the administrative state Is there are the real rulers of this country? | ||
| That there's nothing you can admit to that's going to get you in any kind of trouble with the bureaucratic apparatus. | ||
| Hey Jeffrey, we are just about out of time. | ||
| We're going to talk to Peter, see if we can get you in for the afternoon show because there's so much more. | ||
| I think we are just pulling the threads of the investigation into Dr. Birx. | ||
| Yeah, we're just beginning this. | ||
| This is the start of the next leg of it. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And let's not forget that Trump tried to put an end to this right before the election. | ||
| With his Schedule F executive order, and that was reversed by Biden. | ||
| So there's warfare going on in this country right now, and this conflict between Birx and the elected politicians is just the beginning of it. | ||
| Precisely. | ||
| All right, we are out of time, so you're going to have to go medieval on your own. | ||
| Potter Noster, say it. | ||
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Bring it on and I will fight to the end, just watch and see. | |
| It's all started, everything's begun, and you are over. |
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