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The virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome.
It's Saturday, 25 June, the year of our Lord, 2022.
We're about to go, in a moment, out into front of the Supreme Court.
By the way, on this day, 25 June, in 1876, The 7th Cavalry was wiped out with General Custer at Custer National Battlefield out there in the West.
We're going to talk more about that later.
We've got a lot to get through.
Let's go to Chris Carter in front of the Supreme Court.
Chris, the Night of Rage did not exactly turn out like the far left wanted it to do, did it, sir?
unidentified
No, not at all.
I was scoping the city coming with my photojournalist here this morning and we were just looking at different things and just nothing happened.
There was really no violence or vandalism, like nothing on the level of what we saw with Antifa a couple years ago.
Not even close.
Behind me, the activists have started to gather and get their messages out for the day.
The megaphones are coming out.
It's going to be about 90 here today, so we'll see how these Protesters hold up.
I mean, it's almost like Custer's last stand.
Just like you said, you know, this could be the left wing's last stand here at the Supreme Court.
steve bannon
What, Chris, what, do you anticipate a big showing today?
And another, one of the things you're saying online is, oh, well, that was the first day.
We got to get organized.
Tonight's going to be the night.
What's your sense?
It seemed like it kind of, you know, petered out over time as this discrepancy.
Nancy Pelosi reading a poem.
Democrats staying on the scene.
God bless America.
They got dragged by left-wing media.
People are actually very upset about why they say the Democrats never did anything to combat this.
Do you anticipate a big turnout today in this heat and humidity or be another couple thousand people?
unidentified
You know, I'm expecting a pretty solid turnout.
What that means here can vary.
Yesterday was pretty aggressive.
I think today might be a little bit more relaxed.
The message will be a little bit more focused.
I mean, some of the language that I was listening to yesterday.
I'm from Washington, D.C.
I don't know how the police stomach this.
They defend these people.
I don't think I've heard so many F-words in probably about five hours.
In my entire life and what I heard yesterday.
So we'll see if they come with the same energy, the same type of people.
And you know, by the end of the day yesterday, it was pretty much all the pro-abortion crowd.
The pro-life crowd probably left and gone home to their families.
steve bannon
Chris, we're going to come back to you in a day.
All I got to say is Real America Voice, incredible job all day yesterday and last night, particularly to document all this.
So thank you very much.
We'll come back to you in a while.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
The intrepid Chris Carter.
It got a little hot out there for you, not just heat-wise.
He was getting a little abuse there towards late in the afternoon, early in the evening.
Let's go from Washington, D.C.
on the steps right outside the Supreme Court.
Let's go to Alaska.
Kelly Chewbacca running for the Senate.
It's a big day for Murkowski.
Here in DC, Kelly, I think Biden's already signed.
I'm looking at Ameriproduce.
I think Biden signed the gun bill that Murkowski is such a key part of.
Also her, you know, her wobbling on, she's coming after you now on pro-life.
So tell me about, it's been a bad couple of days for Murkowski.
Put it in perspective for us.
unidentified
Yeah, it's great to be with you.
She's really had a bad couple days.
I'm thinking about sending her a t-shirt for our campaign because she might be one of the best volunteers we have helping us along.
But what she's doing now is she's coming after me.
This is the first time she's attacked me on social media.
Back at the beginning of the campaign, you know, I was just a person with a pulse.
And that's what she thinks about all Alaskans.
We're just people with pulses out here.
But now what she's doing is she's mischaracterizing an exchange at a town hall that I was at.
And the question was about making abortion illegal.
And the question came up about whether that would include birth control pills.
And so now she's saying that I want to make birth control pills and the male illegal.
Well, women take birth control pills for a lot of reasons, a lot of medical reasons.
I've been on birth control pills for years, Steve.
That's how absurd this lie is.
Birth control pills are totally fine, but if abortions are illegal, then pills that are taken to cause abortions, like this pill B or RU486, those are no different than if you go down to an abortion doctor.
But remember, this abortion lobby, they work hard to confuse everyone, pretending abortion pills and birth control pills are exactly the same, but they're not the same.
Murkowski's gotten paid for by this abortion lobby, and so she's lying about what I said so she can confuse people, too.
But think about it like this.
If this 21-year incumbent is so confident she's going to win this race, then why is she dodging talking about her record, these votes the last couple weeks, and becoming so unhinged about her opponent that she's got to resort to lies like this?
This is just another indicator that we're going to win this election in November.
steve bannon
I tell you why she's doing it.
I'm sure her internal polling is saying, hey, Kelly is now a big problem and you're going to have to address it.
I sense, I feel a debate sometime in the future, particularly after President Trump comes out.
Once President Trump, President Trump's in Illinois today.
We're going to talk a lot about that in the second hour of the show with a big rally.
He's coming to Alaska when, Kelly?
unidentified
So we've got tentative worries coming in the next couple weeks, probably right after July 4th.
That's what I'm hoping for.
We don't have it confirmed yet, but you're right.
She's had a couple polls out recently.
She hasn't released any of those results, so she must have gotten bad news, but there's a lot of reason why.
You know, she flip-flops on everything.
She's flip-flopped on the Second Amendment.
You just mentioned it.
She just voted away our Second Amendment rights.
She's flip-flop on abortion.
At least this radical Democrat that's in our race, Pat Chesbrough, she's consistent and dependable.
Abortion, on demand, all the way up to full term.
But nobody trusts Murkowski on anything, and that's indicative of her whole 21-year career.
And that's why she's attacking me.
And after 21 years in the Senate and all of those cocktail parties she goes to.
The fact is she's out of touch with Alaskans.
And I think you're right, Steve, that that's what the polls say.
And so she doesn't know what to do.
She can't stand on her record.
She sure isn't proud of that.
She's getting away from talking about that as quickly as possible.
So now all she's got is making up lies about me.
And I think that's what we're going to see these next five months.
But Alaskans don't like that very much.
We don't like bullies.
The only person I see getting bullied around here is Lisa Murkowski when she gets pinned to the wall by Dianne Feinstein and Alaskans remember that picture really well too.
So I think this race is looking better and better with each passing day.
steve bannon
Here's what I don't understand.
Given the landmark decision of the court on Thursday about the Second Amendment, how does she justify, and how are Alaskans anything but less than furious, white-hot furious at her for her support of this debacle that Nancy Pelosi's got the big smirk on?
And once again, it's a prop to the Biden regime.
I don't know how a frontier, America's last frontier, frontier community like that, you know, is anything less than furious.
unidentified
You're absolutely right.
Her one saving grace is because there's 4,000 miles of difference.
A lot of our communities don't have internet or don't have good internet.
It just takes a little bit of time for news to trickle out.
But remember when we last talked, I was up at that northernmost community on our Arctic slope.
And so I was the one going around telling them.
And they were furious.
Absolutely furious.
They hadn't even heard yet.
And so I was explaining to them what was in the bill.
And they said, wait, for us, it's like an act of maturing to get a high-powered rifle, because that means that you're going to go out and provide for your family.
And that was something I was explaining to your viewers.
For us, it's a great thing to get one of these guns.
And they said she just took that away from some of our people, and they were flipping out mad, because that means you can't take care of your family.
You can't go out and provide.
This essentially is the equivalent of a job in communities that don't have jobs.
It's how you go caribou hunting.
And so I think once Alaskans know, they're absolutely going to be angry.
We don't divide into typical party lines on this.
We have many, many of our Democrats, common sense Democrats in Alaska, they're pro-second amendment.
But the other thing she does, see, she messages one thing in Alaska, we'll call it lies, and then she goes and shanks us in the side in Washington, D.C.
She gets back there with her 21-year friends, you know, that she calls Corey and Kamala, Chuck and Joe, that's how she refers to them, and she votes with them.
But then she comes back home, she literally said, this doesn't take away your Second Amendment rights.
Then her next statement to the press was, well, it does a little bit.
And so those lies are often bought by Alaskans, but I think that they're seeing through it now.
Her actions are so deafening, we can't hear her lip service anymore.
steve bannon
Well, that's our responsibility, too, to make sure that everybody in the great state of Alaska loves the Patriots up there.
Everybody gets the word, and everybody gets the word out.
Kelly, how can people find out more about you, your campaign, and follow you on social media?
unidentified
We're at kelly4ak.com.
K-E-L-L-Y-F-O-R-A-K.com.
And War Room, we've only gotten this far because of your support, so thanks for helping us retire Lisa Murkowski.
Kelly4ak.com.
I'll see you next time, Steve.
steve bannon
Kelly, really looking forward to it, and fight the good fight up there.
Murkowski's one of the worst of the worst.
Because here's where she's the worst of the worst.
She's so slimy and sneaky about it, right?
She doesn't have the courage to actually step up and say, hey, I'm actually a Democrat.
I'm a moderate Democrat.
That's what she is.
She doesn't have the guts to do that.
So Kelly, keep fighting the good fight up there in Alaska.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
I think I've got to talk to the War Room production team.
I think we've got to do that.
I think we've got to do the Alaska... I think Trump in Alaska is so monumental.
It's so incredible.
I think we've got to do it.
Okay, in studio.
I finally convinced him to do it.
Of course, he didn't get the uniform of the day right.
Mike Davis.
Mike, are you going to an important meeting afterwards?
Oh, no, Steve, he doesn't know I got a hit at a real TV studio afterwards.
Okay, thanks, Mike.
mike davis
Thank you for having me, Steve.
steve bannon
Do you wake up in the morning and have a suit on?
mike davis
I do.
I sleep in it.
steve bannon
I want to put it in perspective, and I think Collison and CNN And I've got that up on Getter.
I think he had one of the best.
He's a very reflective.
He hates Trump.
He's a hardcore Trump hater, but he's a brilliant guy.
He did an amazing piece about the whole history.
Put in perspective, Mike Davis, as only you can, what actually the convergence of all the forces that made yesterday happen and how it's a springboard going forward.
Because we don't want to say this is something historical.
This is actually driving the vitality of this grassroots movement on many different levels.
Mike Davis.
mike davis
Yeah, there have been a lot of key grassroots leaders in this pro-life fight for decades, and they deserve most of the credit for what happened at the Supreme Court yesterday.
But what we saw here is a 30-year campaign by conservatives to understand how important the federal judiciary is, to understand that the left took over the federal judiciary and they turned the Constitution on its head.
Our Constitution, the US Constitution, is a loan agreement between we the people and the federal government.
We the people loan the federal government specific, enumerated, and separated powers in exchange the federal government promises to secure our liberties.
They don't give us our liberties, they secure our liberties.
We have God-given rights, and these rights are fundamental.
One of these rights is the right to keep and bear arms for self-defense.
And another right is a right to life, right?
And so if you're going to deprive, if a government is going to deprive people of our rights, we need to have due process.
We need to have fair notice.
We need to go to a court.
We need to have evidence.
We need to have adversarial process, right?
What we saw over the last week with the Supreme Court with there was a ruling on religious liberty with up in Maine where you can't discriminate against religious schools when you're when you're giving when you're essentially giving vouchers to parents if you don't have schools in your rural Maine community If you're going to give vouchers to parents to go to private schools, you can't discriminate against religious schools, right?
And so that's one ruling.
That was a huge ruling.
Another monumental ruling out of the Supreme Court was the New York gun case.
In New York, the six conservatives on the Supreme Court said it's a violation Of the Second and Fourteenth Amendments, our God-given right to keep and bear arms, for the state to set up a system where we have to go ask permission from the government to exercise our rights.
It's the other way around.
It should be that we have these rights and if the government wants to deprive us of these rights, it's the burden of the government to prove that we're unworthy, that we're a felon, that we're mentally unstable and we're going to hurt the community.
And it should be a heavy burden.
And the Supreme Court said no, New York.
Citizens don't have to get permission to exercise their rights.
And with abortion... Hang on.
steve bannon
Let's leave them hanging, because we've got 20 seconds.
We're going to go to break.
Mike Davis is going to answer all of this today.
It's SMBN Studio.
Next two hours, we're going to go through all of this and how it's a springboard for the sweeping victory we're going to have in November this year.
all of it in the war room now.
unidentified
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This goes back.
There's a fundamental difference in the country.
The fundamental difference is the Democratic Party, the radical left, in their core beliefs.
And people on the right, the traditionalists, the populists, the nationalists, conservatives, republicans, whatever you want to call this.
And that, correct me if I'm wrong, that gets back to the revolutions of the 18th century.
Those revolutions both in America and in France.
And particularly what the founders and framers, Jefferson and Adams and these guys, really had a fundamental difference With not just parliament about taxes, they had even a more fundamental difference with the king, and then you get to revolutionary France, even a bigger difference where both in England with the sovereign and even with a revolution overthrowing a sovereign, both of those at the end of the day believed that the state had your rights came from the state, not from God, not directly to you.
Mike Davis, walk me through that difference because I think when people, and particularly minorities, Yeah, Steve, that's absolutely right.
mike davis
this fundamental difference we are going to get 75 or 80 percent of the vote Mike Davis yes Steve that's absolutely right with in back in England where we took from from which we declared independence the sovereign was the king or the queen and so power went from God to the sovereign and then and then the sovereign lent, or I guess granted power to his or her subjects through like the Magna Carta, right?
It wasn't like they had rights.
They didn't have rights on their own.
Their rights came from the state.
steve bannon
You didn't have inalienable rights.
Correct.
You had inalienable rights.
mike davis
Correct.
In the United States, it's a completely different model.
It was radical at the time.
The sovereign are the people.
We the people are the sovereign in America.
We get our power from God, their inalienable rights, and we lend power to the federal government and state governments through our U.S.
Constitution.
It is a loan agreement.
We loan The federal government specific, enumerated, and separated powers in exchange the government promises to secure, not give us our rights and our liberties, to secure our rights and liberties.
And so that's a fundamental difference between the American system and the British system.
steve bannon
So walk us through then how that plays out with, you know, Ginsburg and Thomas and everything, because you had many things.
You had a grassroots effort to get awareness and to stop these things and to get grassroots and start getting politicians to make it political.
But you also had a legal strategy and that strategy became more and more, I don't want to say sophisticated, but more and more focused over time.
So walk us through with that as the premise, how that played through till we got to these decisions yesterday.
mike davis
Yeah, so for, you know, for the first nearly 200 years of our republic, we had a federal judiciary that understood its modest but critical role, which is what we just described.
Their job is to decide cases and controversies between two parties and protect liberties, right?
To protect liberties from government overreach, government tyranny, government breakdown, right?
And that's what the federal judges understood Their modest but critical role was.
And then liberal judicial activists came along, instead of wearing robes, they threw on their capes and they thought it was their job to save everyone.
They thought it was their job to do justice, to do social justice.
steve bannon
Was this starting in the Roosevelt era?
Was this starting in the 1930s?
mike davis
It really was.
It was the switch in time that saved Nye.
Back during the FDR era, the Supreme Court correctly FDR kept the federal government contained.
The federal government only had specific, enumerated, separated powers and FDR wanted to change that.
He wanted to give the federal government these expansive powers.
In his mind it was to fight the New Deal poverty.
And the Supreme Court kept striking down his programs in violation of the Constitution.
This is not in the Constitution, President Roosevelt, so it's not constitutional.
steve bannon
That was 1932 to basically 35-36.
You had Roosevelt in an economic emergency, a crisis, trying to come up with new programs all the time.
It really greatly expanded the reach and scale of the federal government.
And you had a court that was still a relatively conservative court, correct?
mike davis
It was a Constitutional court.
steve bannon
Constitutionalist court.
Constitutionalist court, although it had many Democrats and liberals on it, but classic liberals, right?
mike davis
That's right.
steve bannon
And they continued to fight Roosevelt until Roosevelt and his political guys came up with a solution for that.
What was the solution?
mike davis
I think it was in 1937, Steve, correct me if I'm wrong, but they threatened to pack the Supreme Court.
Basically, if you don't go along with our program, Supreme Court, we're just going to add new justices.
We'll add four new justices.
And then we'll have the votes to get all of our program through and you'll have nothing.
The radicals today are threatening to do the same thing.
It was the switch in time that saved nine.
Basically what happened was the Supreme Court switched its jurisprudence on the Commerce Clause and took a very expansive view of the Commerce Clause under the U.S.
Constitution and essentially gave Congress all powers to do whatever the heck they People don't understand this.
steve bannon
That's why, particularly the War Room Posse, because I don't fully understand it.
We had Mike Leon here with his new book, Saving Nine, whichever should go to Amazon, because, hey, let me look over the hill for you guys.
We've got a lot of momentum here, but they're going to come in hard on trying to change the makeup of this court and the scale of this court, right?
You're saying already, they're saying, well, you've got to disregard the court.
Some of the smarter ones are going to come back and say, hey, I think we can fix this if we do it quickly.
We can add more liberal justices to the court and let Biden pick them.
In this, my point is, we didn't actually save the judiciary, didn't save the Supreme Court.
They blinked on what actually Roosevelt and his most radical guys want him to blink on, and that was the Commerce Clause.
Walk people through why that was so important.
mike davis
Yeah, so under our Constitution, again, specific A limited, specific, enumerated, separated powers in the Constitution.
So if Congress has the power, it says that Congress has the power to regulate interstate commerce, right?
And back before the switch in time that saved Nye, back before FDR threatened to pack the Supreme Court and they caved, the Supreme Court caved to FDR and changed their jurisprudence, What that meant is that essentially Congress would prevent states from discriminating against other states in interstate commerce.
It's more complicated than that, but it was a much more limited power for Congress to have under the Commerce Clause than they have now.
What they did with the Commerce Clause is that the Supreme Court essentially said Congress has all powers, right?
And so there's almost nothing that the Supreme Court has struck down.
steve bannon
Hang on, let me go back to that time.
And this gets to today and your antitrust, which we'll get to in the second hour.
Of the big tech oligarchs.
Weren't they making the case then that hey, the horse and buggy where the founders were and all this nice quaint stuff in the 19th century, we're a modern industrial power and you've got these fascists rising, we're in this Great Depression, if we don't save the country, With capitalism, and that's going to have to be activist courts and a more activist government.
We're going to lose this to the communists.
And so what you guys, your nice theory of limited government is nice and quaint and it's fine for guys walking around in powdered wigs and britches, but we're here with, we got Hitler on one side, you got Mussolini on the other, you got the Bolsheviks, you got Lenin and Stalin.
We're going to lose this country to the communists unless we take a more enlightened and aggressive and interventionist role, Mike Davis.
mike davis
I mean, that was their argument.
I would argue that it was World War II that saved the American economy and made America a superpower.
I don't think it was these New Deal programs, but, you know, that's a whole different debate.
steve bannon
But it was this thing about the scale of government and the intervention of government in every aspect of life.
I mean, today we have the administrative state.
The big battle we have in front of us is not just winning the House and Senate, but winning the House and Senate to then turn and take on the administrative state.
Because, let me give you a newsflash.
The guy who's president, like Donald Trump, doesn't run an administration.
The administration is self-perpetuating in this administrative state, which is impervious to elections.
That beast, that Leviathan, was created at this very time by this decision in the courts, correct?
mike davis
That is correct.
That is correct.
And it's the left who, they took over our federal government.
You know, the administrative state is the biggest problem we face with the federal government.
steve bannon
Which is Gorsuch and Kavanaugh's stock and trade.
I mean, they were really leading theoreticians judicially, right, with written opinions about how you have to confront this administrative state.
From that time in the 1930s, all the way up to Roe v. Wade, and the Warren Court and all that, what did the Supreme Court turn into?
mike davis
What the Supreme Court turned into a rubber stamp for the administrative state.
Basically, the administrative state got away with everything.
How our Constitution is supposed to work is Article 1, Congress writes the laws.
Article 2, the President enforces the laws.
Article 3, the federal judiciary adjudicates disputes about the laws.
And that's how it's supposed to work.
You separate the powers.
Again, the federal government only gets specific, limited, enumerated powers, and those powers are separated.
What we've done since FDR and the New Deal is the federal government gets all powers over everything under the Commerce Clause, and then with the administrative states, these unelected bureaucrats get all these powers wrapped up into one.
So they get all powers wrapped up into one with the Tony Fauci's of the world where they have legislative power, they have executive power, and they have the power to adjudicate.
That is the very definition of tyranny that our founders feared and dreaded.
steve bannon
OK, we're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to get back to all this and how it plays out today in big tech oligarchs, how it plays out into the CDC, how it plays out into every aspect of your life.
And this is what the great struggle is.
Remember, when Trump won in 16 on those first couple of days, it was the national security apparatus of the administrative state.
That said, no.
We must... I call it the nullification project.
They said immediately, no.
He is not worthy.
He is scared.
This America First thing is scary.
We're an interventionist, globalist empire, and we must continue that.
And if it means taking a guy who's duly elected by the people of the United States, it doesn't matter, because to them, the people are not sovereign.
The administrative state is sovereign.
We'll get back to all the legal aspects of this next when we return with Mike Davis and the War Room.
unidentified
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Do I have Rudy?
unidentified
No.
Okay, we're trying to get... God bless you, Rudy.
steve bannon
It's called a telephone.
Okay, we're trying to get Rudy's all out and about.
I think he's on Long Island Day campaigning for Andrew.
I think Andrew's in upstate New York.
New polls out.
It's a dead heat horse race there.
I want to make sure everybody gets focused and make sure they vote on Tuesday in the New York primary.
I want to go back.
Michael Pack, one of my mentors in the filmmaking side, I think the greatest conservative filmmaker, made this incredible movie about Justice Thomas.
I want everybody, there's a couple things you got to do.
Go to Amazon and get Mike Lee's book about Packing the Court.
Right?
And if you can't afford the book, I understand a lot of the posse and a lot of the deplorables are under economic pressure.
If you can't get it, you can't afford it, that's fine.
We're going to have Senator Lee back on next week.
Because this thing about packing the court is still very real.
Trust me.
These guys are going to pull everything.
They're totally lawless.
They're going to pull everything.
Also, you can stream, go to Manifold Productions, or go anywhere, and you've got to see this Justice Thomas film.
It's just him looking into the camera.
And then Mark Paoletta, who was one of the White House Counselors and I was there, fabulous guy, worked on Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.
Fabulous piece of manpower.
He took the 25 hours that are not in the film, And then made a book of Justice Thomas's thoughts.
The reason this is important, what's become evident, and remember Thomas was mocked and ridiculed for years because, I don't think he didn't write a lot of opinions, he never asked a question I think for 20 or 30 years on the court, Mike Davis, but correct, PAC said it yesterday, and I agree with it.
This is the Thomas Court.
This is not the Roberts Court.
This is the Thomas Court, Mike Davis.
mike davis
That's absolutely right.
This is President Trump's biggest accomplishment and the biggest piece of his legacy for his first term is transforming the 5-4 John Roberts Courts to the 5-4 Clarence Thomas Court.
steve bannon
Is it a 5-4 or sometimes 6-3 because he can get weak Roberts to come along with his intellectual lead?
Is that where we are?
mike davis
Yeah, so I would argue this.
I clerked on the court for Gorsuch, and I know all these justices.
I don't think Roberts, the Chief Justice, is a liberal by any means.
I just think he's incremental, and he's very cautious, and it makes him... Mike Davis is a gentleman.
steve bannon
He's not bad, he's a gentleman.
You mean he's a wimp, right?
When you say incremental, he's a wimp.
I mean, here's what's happened.
This is what I think was so important about Trump.
Understand something about Trump.
He's a deal guy.
You understand something.
And Davis, you remember this.
The most important thing I think he did in the selection of these justices, he says, look, and he's a people person, he says, look, no more biography.
We've had too much biography before, right?
Where people got in and they turned, they want to be accepted by DC.
So no more, I don't want to hear the great stories.
That's important, but that's not it.
I also don't want to have, like in Souter, you've got to be at a federal level, but it's the written opinion that matters.
It's where the rubber meets the road at that level is written opinions tightly.
The Alitos, the Scalia's, that type of thing.
That's what he was looking for in the Gorsuch's.
In the Kavanaugh's, in the Barrett's, is to look to intellectual firepower.
And let me be brutally frank, you add up the Trump justices for the justices on the left, there's just not a lot of intellectual fire.
Since they lost RBG, there's not a lot of intellectual heft.
Would you agree in a fair observation, Mike Davis?
mike davis
So I think that Justice Kagan was a Harvard Law School dean.
She's probably the intellectual leader of the court.
She takes a more intellectual approach to lawmaking.
I think Justice Sotomayor, who is personally a great woman, I actually like her a lot personally, she takes more of an emotional or an emotive approach to the law.
It's a different style.
I think Judge Ketagi Brown Jackson, who I think was a horrific pick for her record.
She's going to be on the Supreme Court.
I think she's going to be more in the Justice Sotomayor emotive mode.
And so I think Justice Kagan is going to be writing a lot of lonely dissents for the rest of her career on the Supreme Court with dueling emotive dissents from Justice Sotomayor and Justice Jackson.
steve bannon
There was a lot of controversy should Thomas step down before Trump left.
In hindsight, those that talked about that, that would have been a big mistake.
You agree?
mike davis
It would have been a huge mistake and I know Justice Clarence Thomas and his wife Jenny very well.
They're great people, wonderful people.
He has waited 30 years on the court to get to this point where it's now his court.
He it's the five to four Clarence Thomas court.
He just wrote a masterful second amendment case the New York gun case where he You know, it's 30 years of work that went into that opinion and he delivered he overturned the New York Marxist gun-grabbing regime that they had and they you know, we actually have A God-given right to keep and bear arms now because of Justice Thomas's 30 years in his gun case.
He shouldn't go anywhere anytime soon.
He's in great health.
He doesn't drink.
He doesn't smoke.
He's at the pinnacle of his career and I hope he stays there.
steve bannon
And his intellectual power.
mike davis
What makes me so angry about the left is they're so mad that Clarence Thomas escaped their plantation.
So they want to dismiss him.
Somehow that he's He's stupid or something like that.
steve bannon
He's a second-class intellect.
The smears on Justice Thomas shows the innate racism, I think, of these people because they literally hate him for being black, don't they?
mike davis
They hate him for being a black conservative.
Justice Thomas is... I've spent hours and hours and hours and hours with Justice Thomas.
The guy is brilliant.
Brilliant.
He's just humble.
He comes from the deeps.
He came from abstract But there are a couple of switchbacks.
steve bannon
He's truly an American version of the hero story.
I guess his father abandons the family.
His grandfather raises him.
These nuns, he goes to a Catholic school.
These nuns have a huge impact on him.
He rebelled at first.
Yeah, he was a Marxist.
father laid hands on him because he didn't have a father, got him into a Catholic school, he really absorbed what the nuns had.
But then later, he was an angry young black man during the revolutionary 60s.
I mean, he was a radical.
Yeah, he was a Marxist.
He was a Marxist.
mike davis
He was a radical Marxist, and then he found God and found the light and found Jenny Thomas, who's wonderful.
steve bannon
The left is attacking her now.
Well, this is the head of Christ Center.
So there's no conspiracies but there's no coincidences.
The reason I was so honored to have Mike come in today is that to lay out for you the next evolution of events.
If you've been following the show trial, and I know this audience has not, But the show trial has got two targets.
Maybe a third target.
The third target will be yours truly in the show.
That'll come in the next couple weeks.
But the two targets that they principally want to take out are obviously Trump, right?
But the second target is Justice Thomas.
And he's the target because he's just not some guy hanging out on the court, right?
A little bit like Sotomayor, just kind of throwing in opinions every now and again.
This is his court.
That is why they are dead set.
They are maniacally focused.
You hear this phrase, they won't impeach him off the court.
Correct?
Is it because this is the Thomas Court, and in his opinion yesterday, His writings, he laid out that there's a whole range of things that he thinks ought to be revisited, which has the left in total meltdown, and they're going to try to use a big fundraiser in this midterm election.
Mike Davis.
mike davis
Clarence Thomas is a mortal threat to the left, the administrative state, everything that the Democratic Party stands for.
The Democrats know that their administrative state is unconstitutional.
They know it's been unconstitutional since they did it, started doing it 90 years ago, right?
So Clarence Thomas, they hate Clarence Thomas.
He destroys their narrative.
He was a black man from the Deep South, abstract poverty, who became one of the most powerful people in America as the leader of the Supreme Court.
It destroys the left's Marxist narrative on race and class.
They hate the fact that he doesn't go along with their interest, whether it's their gun-grabbing interest.
It's, you know, if you want to do a Marxist takeover of a country, you need to grab their guns.
You need to grab our guns.
They hate the fact that he doesn't think that the abortion industry should get special protection from the federal government, from the Constitution somehow, that no other industry in the world gets because that abortion industry uses the proceeds from the murder of unborn babies to fund Democrat campaigns and causes.
So that is, that's going to start ending here pretty soon with Roe versus Wade being overturned.
The abortion industry is actually going to have to work through the Democratic process in states and they're not going to just get this, you know, this federal constitutional protection from five unelected, unaccountable judges on the Supreme Court.
So they hate Clarence Thomas, and they want to destroy him, and they're trying to destroy him by going after his wife, Jenny Thomas.
steve bannon
And so these hearings, this show trial, is only going to, I believe, heat up.
Because now, after today, they're going to... Nancy Pelosi, I mean... This is the other thing.
Having so long...
And think of the criminality here.
They actually leaked, for the first time in the history of the court, they leaked an opinion.
And they leaked that opinion, Mike Davis, for one reason.
That was judicial intimidation.
They wanted that to be changed.
They wanted Robert's vote to flip.
Is there any doubt in your mind about that?
mike davis
There's no question.
And frankly, I think that they wanted Supreme Court... They don't care if Supreme Court justices got killed in the process.
Maybe they wanted it.
steve bannon
That's a pretty big stake.
You say that given the facts as you looked at them, how things were instigated, how it was leaked, how lack of protection of the homes, Merrick Garland, you believe the assassination, this is why you know it's so radioactive.
The New York Times and the Washington Post will not cover that at all because they understand how brutal that is in their case.
But Mike Davis, you think they were actually open to having the assassination of Supreme Court justices?
mike davis
Yes, and let me say this.
I served as the Chief Counsel for nominations on the Senate Judiciary Committee for then-Chairman Chuck Grassley.
Part of my portfolio included oversight for the Chairman over the Federal Judiciary, including security of the Federal Judiciary, including security at the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court Police, the U.S.
Marshals.
In 2020, Judge Esther Salas Had an Obama appointee in New Jersey had her 20-year-old son Daniel murdered in their home and her husband Mark seriously wounded because she got doxxed and someone who was upset with one of her rulings showed up at her house.
I worked on Justice Gorsuch's confirmation from the outside.
I was the staff leader for his confirmation from the inside.
I saw how dangerous and radical the deranged left was during these confirmation processes, including Justice Kavanaugh's.
I saw this.
I saw them chasing Senators.
I saw the death threats they made against Senators.
It was crazy.
Of course, nothing happened to them because they're leftist and, you know, it's only grandmas and goofballs trespassing onto the Capitol grounds on January 6th who deserve the full force of the FBI, according to the left.
But this is a dangerous game that the left has been playing.
In 2020, Chuck Schumer went to the Supreme Court steps while they were Considering an abortion case at that moment inside, on the other side of that door, he threatened Gorsuch and Kavanaugh by name.
Physically threatened them by name if they didn't rule his way in an independent case.
steve bannon
Says you reap the wind, you sow the wind, you're going to reap the whirlwind.
I was in Rome when the day Kavanaugh was confirmed, and I remember watching on CNN, on TV, when they ran from the Capitol across the street, and they didn't have the fence up at that time, to the doors of the Supreme Court and were banging on it.
I said, that is exactly, and this was like thousands of people.
Completely hysterical.
I said, that is as close as I've seen the United States to the French Revolution.
I said, if they had been out there, the guillotine would have been up and it would have been over.
It was hysterical.
Remember they were banging on the huge door there?
mike davis
Oh, I remember.
steve bannon
I'm telling you, this left is lawless.
Totally lawless.
And the law is not the kids in the street, as bad as that is.
It's at the upper levels.
It's the Merrick Garland's of the world.
Short break.
Try to get Liz York, get Mike Davis in the house next.
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steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
We're going to go back to the Supreme Court in a moment, but I've got Liz Juris with us.
Mike Davis, this assassination attempt and everything that happened, which is against federal law, not just the assassination attempt to intimidate, who's responsible for that?
mike davis
So, Attorney General Merrick Garland is 100% responsible.
He's the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the United States.
He sat by after this opinion leaked nearly two months ago and these Supreme Court justices were getting death threats in their homes.
He didn't put out a statement for nine days that he was increasing security and in that statement he didn't even condemn these illegal doxing campaigns and intimidation campaigns.
It is a violation of federal A federal criminal statute, 18 U.S.C.
1507, obstruction of justice to intimidate federal judges at their homes while they're deciding a pending case.
And he did nothing.
Did nothing.
Let these protesters organize.
Still letting these protesters organize outside of these Supreme Court justices' homes.
steve bannon
At Thomas' house last night, a couple hundred showed up to try to intimidate Justice Thomas and his wife.
Hopefully they were gone.
mike davis
It's all the conservative justices.
Merrick Garland is allowing this to happen.
He's allowing 18 U.S.C.
1507 to get violated, obstruction of justice, and it's putting these justices and their families in grave danger, as we saw with Justice Kavanaugh's assassination attempt.
steve bannon
Liz Yor, tell me about last night in D.C.
It wasn't as bad as people thought it was going to be.
Maybe tonight we're going to go back to the Supreme Court in the next hour to check it out.
What is your sense of things?
liz yore
Well, I think this is the unfinished business, Steve, of the late 60s and 70s revolution, what they weren't able to accomplish.
And I'm, you know, very concerned now that I think the strategy will go to the state capitals.
That's where they understand.
That's where the fight will be.
But, you know, the left is so out of touch.
You know, they're trying to sell this lie that killing babies is so enlightened.
It's progress.
And going backwards is, you know, to stop abortions.
And, you know, this is, you know, they have been outmoded, outdated.
You know, this is for how many decades?
And they also don't want the country to understand that the whole pro-life movement is a young movement.
And the pro-aborts are an old movement, which is outdated.
Nothing but bitter old ladies in an outdated fight.
But I wanted to just capture for the audience what happened in the state capital of Madison, Wisconsin.
There was a 16-year-old boy holding a homemade sign called Cherish Life.
I mean, beautiful message, right?
Peaceful, just standing there all by himself.
He was all alone.
He had driven down to keep his hometown out of the conversation just to send that message to Cherish Life.
Women, the pro boards came on on the stage screaming and yelling at the police.
The state capitol was surrounded by state troopers who had to take this abuse nonstop through bullhorns.
And then they stripped down naked and went up to the 16 year old boy.
They were covered in, you know, red paint, whatever, saying, why do you hate women?
Why do you hate women?
And then, you know, just being even more vulgar and vile.
But, you know, this is who they are.
And I think it's, you know, unfortunate the hate is at a new level now.
It's palpable.
And, you know, they've shut down and blocked off 101, Highway 101 in California.
I mean, this is, I think it's time that we really look at who they are.
Now, the media is going to try and cover up How vulgar, how hateful, how violent this movement is.
But, you know, and I think what they're going to do is they're going to ramp up the media as well as Hollywood.
Just today, the NBA and the WNBA issued a joint statement about women's health care.
You know, interesting, this little young man, 16 years old, still a boy, you know, They want to silence and they've been successful silencing men's voices for the last 50 years.
And, you know, this is this has got to stop.
But, you know, I anticipate they're going to continue to ramp it up like I predicted last week.
This is going to be more about the revolution because Antifa now is being folded into this fight.
So, you know, it's in AOC had a revolutionary Communist Party member holding her bullhorn when she was Screaming illegitimate illegitimate before the Supreme Court.
So this is the Marxist strategy pit man against woman pit black against white.
It's classic Marxist disorder and chaos and you know, I hope for peace.
unidentified
Yeah.
liz yore
But I think we have to anticipate and prepare for violence.
steve bannon
We do, but I got to tell you, and I want to go back to the AOC thing.
If you look at AOC, she was saying insurrection.
She then gave part of her talk in the Bullhorn about how they have to take these institutions over, they have to do it, and how it was a long march.
I think she, I don't know if she said 50 years, but They're not in for that fight.
They've had so much cover by the courts and the media.
That's why this thing over the last couple of days has been totally disorganized.
Nancy Pelosi comes out and reads some bizarre poem, right?
Biden?
They were not prepared for this.
They're not psychologically prepared for this.
This is why.
This is a long march.
They got this article in Salon.
The best coverage of this has been from the left.
CNN did an incredible piece about the 50 years and everything that had to happen.
From the initial knocking on doors and saying the rosaries, all the way to the legal strategy.
Salon has a magnificent article, I put it on Getter and I've just given it to a camera, I'm going to give it to a camera and put it up in the next hour, that says the vanguard of this movement is young women.
I mean, the big shock, this was a liberal reporter that started following this and said, hey, she's expecting to see a bunch of Liz Yores.
These tough old broads that have been at this for a while.
And she found out that they were all in their twenties.
unidentified
They're a lot of Liz Yores, but they're all in their twenties.
steve bannon
They're young Liz Yores.
They're Liz Yores.
They're 25 years old.
It shocked her.
It shocked her!
Okay, we're going to take a break.
Liz, you're going to stick around, at least we're going to keep going.
The young Liz is part of the next thing.
The young Liz, you're in your 20s.
Liz is going to stick with us.
We've got Mike Davis in the house.
We're trying to track down Rudy.
I think we've got Andrew Giuliani.
We've got guys at the Supreme Court.
Of course, Ben Harnwell is with us in Rome.
He's got an amazing analysis of all this.
Captain Bannon.
There's so much going on.
Next week we're going to start talking about the Administrative State.
We're going to get back to that rally for the Title IX the other day.
The woman from the Inez at the Independent Women's Forum talks about the radical transformation they're trying to do now, the Administrative State's trying to do now, in American culture and society.
Remember, they think they're impervious to elections.
We're about to prove them wrong.
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