June 24, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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The virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| It's Friday, 24 June, Year of Our Lord 2022. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| I want to go to, in the last 20 or 30 minutes has been a big up-armoring exercise on Capitol Hill around the Supreme Court. | ||
| Let's go to Star News Network. | ||
| We have both Chris Carter, Real America's Voice, and Edie Heiple of Star News Network both in front of the court. | ||
| Let's go to Edie first. | ||
| Edie, give us an update. | ||
| Is today the day they're going to drop the Dobbs decision? | ||
| Because there's certainly been a change In the police activity here in the last 20 or 30 minutes, a very, very big lockdown around Capitol Hill. | ||
| Edie, put us in the room, tell us what's going on. | ||
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I'm here outside the Supreme Court, and there's widespread speculation that today is the day that Dobbs v. Jackson will come down. | |
| As you can see behind me, the police presence is amped up at the court. | ||
| There's hundreds of protesters out here, and it seems like the pro-life protesters are actually much louder today than the pro-choice ones. | ||
| There's actually been a police line that's separating the two protesting lines behind me. | ||
| It feels chaotic here. | ||
| If yesterday was tense, today is crazy. | ||
| Edie, have you gotten any word? | ||
| I mean, obviously some tell is that there's an increased police presence over the last, I don't know, 30 or 40 minutes. | ||
| But have you heard any other word, any other, something more than speculation that will come today? | ||
| I would assume, not being a professional in this area, Friday's not the day you'd want to drop this. | ||
| You'd want to drop this on a Monday or Tuesday. | ||
| A Friday you're just asking for a weekend of carnage. | ||
| Particularly given the emotions over this decision. | ||
| Are you hearing anything from anybody, any sources that this may come or is this just increased police presence? | ||
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I have heard from a couple of people on Capitol Hill that it could likely be today. | |
| Why they would release it today is beyond most of our imagination, really, because like you said, Monday would seem, the very last day of the term would be the likely day that they would release this. | ||
| But given the police presence plus the speculation that's been circulating around here, it seems likely that today could be the day. | ||
| And, you know, Steve, I also saw last night that news broke of DHS warning pro-life centers and Catholic churches across the nation to brace for violence in the days ahead. | ||
| So all of these pointed details really suggest that today might in fact be the day. | ||
| But we'll keep you updated as soon as possible, see what's going on in the ground, and be here to see what happens. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| People should know they traditionally release these around 1030. | ||
| Edie, you be safe and be there. | ||
| We'll come right back to you. | ||
| Do we have Chris Carter? | ||
| We have the intrepid Chris Carter, who's always in the middle of something for Real America's Voice. | ||
| Chris, give us your update. | ||
| What's going on there? | ||
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Well, I can just tell you I was listening to what Edie was saying, and based upon certain reporters that I'm seeing, I can tell you this is coming in today. | |
| These reporters If you see them on certain people, I can guarantee you it's coming in today. | ||
| Now, why did this happen today on a Friday in D.C. | ||
| when most people aren't working? | ||
| We don't really know the answer to this, but I can tell you this. | ||
| All these justices that people think are inside have already vacated the area. | ||
| They're already at their vacation home or their house back in Maryland or Virginia. | ||
| They are not inside here when this is going to be issued. | ||
| We have seen a pretty strong police presence. | ||
| Based upon the last couple days, it's increased a little bit and we're going to wait and see what happens. | ||
| So it's going to be pretty exciting here today for sure. | ||
| Yeah, I think the question was they're going to wait until Monday or Tuesday for the traditional last day to promulgate the remaining decisions. | ||
| They have still some pretty important decisions. | ||
| Although yesterday, the Second Amendment decision was pretty blockbuster. | ||
| Chris, do you have any sense of what the pro-abortion or pro-choice people, what are they trying to prove? | ||
| Because they're a little bit amped up. | ||
| What's your sense of what are they trying to prove? | ||
| What point are they trying to get across to voters throughout the country? | ||
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You know, that's a great question, because I've been watching these people and speaking with them all week, and really, they really don't have any type of objective except to cause chaos. | |
| Some of the signs, I mean, they're brutal, you know, towards some of these justices. | ||
| And also, The slogans, you know, the language, they have a very aggressive tone. | ||
| I don't know really what they hope to accomplish, but for sure if this comes in today, like most people think it is, we will probably see some type of violence. | ||
| I don't think I've seen any arrests or anything like that just yet, but Edie's on the other side. | ||
| She's in the mix. | ||
| I'm staked out here on the grassy knoll where nobody can get me, and I've got a good vantage point to see what's going on. | ||
| Okay, Chris, you hang right there. | ||
| 10.30 is normally the time they do it. | ||
| We'll come back. | ||
| Chris Carter, the intrepid reporter for America's Voice. | ||
| Of course, we've got Edie Heiple, formerly over at the OMB with President Trump, and now a reporter for the Michael Patrick Leahy Star News Network. | ||
| Just hang right there. | ||
| We'll come back to you. | ||
| Here's what we know is that, look, just logistically, I don't think you could be more foolish than to put this thing out on a Friday. | ||
| I think a lot of people felt it would be Monday or Tuesday. | ||
| Something definitely has transpired in the last 30 to 45 minutes because there's been an increase. | ||
| This is not police presence. | ||
| You've got Federal Protective Service, which is one step down from the Secret Service. | ||
| That's run by the Department of Homeland Security. | ||
| And they are as up-armored as you can get. | ||
| And I'm telling you, the place, Capitol Hill, is now flooded with it. | ||
| So we'll get back to that as soon as we have any updates. | ||
| Let's go to New York. | ||
| By the way, Steve Cortez is going to co-host with me. | ||
| We're trying to get Liz York, Terry Schilling, when there's a decision made. | ||
| Let's go to New York. | ||
| There's a big event today. | ||
| Doug Mastriano and an amazing poll. | ||
| We're going to have Doug on here in a minute. | ||
| Amazing poll coming by AARP, which is no pro-Trump organization. | ||
| A big poll coming out of Pennsylvania about Doug Mastriano. | ||
| He's doing a joint, he's doing a joint, a joint Press conference today with Andrew Giuliani. | ||
| Andrew, tell us first off, Andrew, give me up to date on the blockbuster Supreme Court ruling yesterday, specifically about New York, but obviously it hit the whole country. | ||
| And Eric Adams, a city that's got anarchy and chaos, he's saying, oh my gosh, this is going to cause us to be the new Dodge City. | ||
| You're running for governor, sir. | ||
| You've got a big problem with how they're administering New York City. | ||
| Give me your thoughts about yesterday's decision. | ||
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Well, first and foremost, a great decision by the Supreme Court, and I can't say it any better than Clarence Thomas said, which is, our Second Amendment right to bear arms is not a second-class right. | |
| He said it perfectly. | ||
| I'd urge anybody to read the decision that Clarence Thomas ended up putting out there. | ||
| But in terms of what Eric Adams and what Kathy Hochul have said, Steve, their reaction to everything in New York has been to trample on the Constitution, whether it be the Second Amendment or whether it be the First Amendment, as we've seen, A continued attack on speech, as I know you know very well, as I know very well, as certainly President Trump knows very well. | ||
| So for me, this is a very, very simple solution for Eric Adams and for Kathy Hochul. | ||
| Repeal bail reform, get rid of Alvin Bragg and rogue district attorneys that are funded by Soros on day one, and make sure that we allow our officers to police proactively again. | ||
| Utilize broken windows. | ||
| Utilize stop, question, or frisk. | ||
| These things that worked so well in New York in the 90s and 2000s. | ||
| They've taken the opposite approach and we're getting the opposite results. | ||
| Okay, a big event today. | ||
| There's a joint press conference with you and Doug Mastriano. | ||
| Doug's on the phone. | ||
| We're gonna get Doug in here in a second. | ||
| Why is, and there's a new poll that shows that Doug Mastriano's basically in a throwdown with Shapiro. | ||
| I think shocked a lot of people. | ||
| It hasn't shocked us here in the War Room, but I think the mainstream media is pretty shocked about how tough Mastriano's running in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. | ||
| Why are you guys doing a joint press conference today, Andrew, a couple days before your primary? | ||
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Well, first and foremost, I've admired Doug's courage the same way I admire yours, Kurt. | |
| The same way I've admired Rudy Giuliani's courage throughout the process. | ||
| Look, you guys, including Doug, have told the truth throughout this process. | ||
| You've said, instead of actually listening to political consultants that are saying, forget about 3 November 2020, we've all decided to take it head on and say, you know what, this is something that we need to acknowledge. | ||
| This is something that we need to attack. | ||
| This is something that we need to make sure never, ever happens again. | ||
| And that's why I'm honored to stand beside Doug Mastriano. | ||
| And I am so proud of that poll. | ||
| I really think he's going to be the next governor of Pennsylvania. | ||
| And I think between a Giuliani and a Mastriano governor of Pennsylvania and a governor of New York, respectively, I think the Northeast is going to be the it destination again. | ||
| We're going to get this really, really going. | ||
| And you mentioned before, from a fracking standpoint here, we're going to make New York and Pennsylvania basically two of the best fracking states in the United States of America. | ||
| Andrew, if you can hang on for a second, I want to bring Doug Mastriano in by phone. | ||
| Doug is running, he's won the Republican primary. | ||
| He's running against Josh Shapiro for the Governor of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. | ||
| Doug, you're doing a joint press conference today. | ||
| You've often talked about energy and about Pennsylvania and New York being the Saudi Arabia of the world for natural gas. | ||
| My first question, why is Joe Biden, Doug, why is Joe Biden going to, Joe from Scranton, why is he flying over and kneeling down in front of the House of Saud about their increasing oil and gas production when he should come and see Doug Mastroianni and Andrew Giuliani? | ||
| Can you answer that question for me first, sir? | ||
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Thanks for having me on, and Andrew, I look forward to seeing you here in a couple hours. | |
| We're on our way. | ||
| But it's sickening to me that New York, Pennsylvania, and so many other states were sitting on a gold mine, but Joe Biden is so beholden to the radical left that he's willing to shut down our states and shut down our country and make people grovel and ruin their savings and barely make a living anymore, and instead rely upon Saudi and even Russian oil and gas. | ||
| This is madness, and it needs to end. | ||
| I saw the poll, if we can put the poll up, if we've got it in Denver. | ||
| There's a poll out from AARP, I think it is. | ||
| It's an amazing poll about the tightness of this race, but I think what blows people away is that you're up by 18 points, I think, with independents. | ||
| Doug, I've been told, I've been lectured every night by MSNBC that you're the white nationalist candidate, that you're a Christian nationalist, that nobody will touch you, that you scare independents, you scare independent moms, suburban moms. | ||
| What does this poll tell you? | ||
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This poll tells me exactly what we know, that these left-wing publications are full of themselves and are wrong. | |
| I mean, they told me we couldn't win the primary. | ||
| They said I could only win with 20% of the vote. | ||
| You know, and they're very critiqued. | ||
| Primary, it's nine people in the race. | ||
| Most contentious one in 44 years. | ||
| We won with almost half the vote. | ||
| I mean, it's a resounding victory. | ||
| And, you know, it's okay. | ||
| They want to underestimate us. | ||
| When we did the petition drive back in February, 2,000 signatures to get on the ballot. | ||
| but we collected volunteers and pay a cent, 29,000 signatures, many of whom were independent Democrats, switching party in our post-primary system so they could vote for me here. That just sent a warning shot across the bow of the Democrat party. | ||
| Under Mastriano, Pennsylvania is going to flip red. Doug, how do people follow you on social media and how do they get to your campaign? | ||
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Yeah, thank you, Steve. | |
| And we do need people's help. | ||
| This state, as New York, is very important. | ||
| So whether you live in Pennsylvania or not, we need your help. | ||
| Because I spent all our money in the primary, and my opponent in Lockdown, Josh, he's got like $13 million on him. | ||
| So go to DougForGov.com and help us take our state and our country back. | ||
| Colonel Mastriano, thank you very much. | ||
| Honored to have you on here. | ||
| Let me go back to Andrew Giuliani. | ||
| Andrew, give people the details. | ||
| Doug Mastriano's coming. | ||
| You're going to have a joint press conference. | ||
| How do people find it? | ||
| How do they find out more about you? | ||
| How do they get to your campaign site? | ||
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They can find us on our livestream at Andrew H. Giuliani. | |
| I know that Doug's going to have it on his as well. | ||
| I believe Mayor Giuliani's going to be coming on up as well, so they can find it on his right there. | ||
| And obviously our campaign website, it's right over my shoulder here, SaveNY.org. | ||
| And we're asking people to come out and vote this Tuesday, June 28th. | ||
| You know, I'll just comment on one final thing that Doug said over there in terms of the media when you asked about MSNBC and CNN. | ||
| Steve, my mother-in-law passed away last year. | ||
| She lived 46 years of her life. | ||
| under Soviet oppression from Lithuania. Before she passed away, she said that the press in the United States of America reminded her more of Pravda than it did a free press. I think that tells you everything that we need to know about what we're going up against, and that's why we need warriors like Doug Mastriano, like Steve Bannon, and I'm honored that you guys would allow me to come on with you, Steve. Andrew, very great. We'll look We'll look for the live stream today. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Let's go back to the Steps of Freedom. | ||
| Let's go to Edie Heipel first. | ||
| We're going to go to Chris Carter. | ||
| Edie, can you give us an update? | ||
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Steve, I can't believe I'm saying this, but just 30 seconds ago, Roe v. Wade was overturned. | |
| The Dobbs v. Jackson case just was decided. | ||
| Justice Alito wrote the deciding opinion in a 6-3 decision. | ||
| This is huge. | ||
| This is a historic moment. | ||
| I mean, for almost 50 years, Roe has been The lay of the land. | ||
| What this does for the future of America, what this does for the pro-life movement, and what this means for abortion and so-called rights in this state is huge. | ||
| Just as the decision came down, massive cheering erupted behind me, and that's the update I have for you. | ||
| Okay, we're gonna blow the break here. | ||
| I think we're gonna blow the break. | ||
| Thank you, Real America's Voice. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Edie, you stay right there. | ||
| Let me go to Chris. | ||
| Let me go to Chris Carter, Real America's Voice. | ||
| Chris, give us... I know you're on the more contentious side of the aisle over there. | ||
| Tell us what's going on. | ||
| What's been the response? | ||
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Well, as she just said, the crowd broke out in tears. | |
| I already knew what happened. | ||
| I didn't need to look. | ||
| We just checked the stats. | ||
| It came down just as everybody expected. | ||
| Six to three. | ||
| What we have are activists out here. | ||
| We have a strong police presence. | ||
| We've got a little bit of people expressing their discontent or their support. | ||
| Either way, this has happened. | ||
| It's a historic day. | ||
| Our viewers watching this, you will never forget this. | ||
| We've covered this extensively, and I can tell you it's going to have momentous effect throughout the country. | ||
| Right here on the ground, the police are doing a great job. | ||
| They do this all the time. | ||
| Like I said, the justices are not even inside. | ||
| They're already on their summer break. | ||
| It's really political theatric at the core right here. | ||
| We have megaphone blasting. | ||
| People have up outrageous signs. | ||
| Your normal run-of-the-mill Washington crazies have all converged on the spot. | ||
| It's not raining. | ||
| It's the perfect recipe for protest. | ||
| But what is interesting about the court is that they did release the concealed carry decision before they released this decision. | ||
| So we'll see how prominent the night of rage will be across the country tonight. | ||
| Let me ask you, Chris, people have a First Amendment right to protest. | ||
| This is one of the things that people should know this in Washington when these Supreme Court decisions come down. | ||
| Obviously, not very few in history as huge as the Dobbs case that just came down. | ||
| People have a First Amendment right, they're always out there protesting. | ||
| Do you get a sense, because they've threatened this night of rage, or the night it was released, that would be tonight, do you get any sense that the crowd's getting worked up to violence? | ||
| Are they just, even as outrageous as they want to be, they're just out there expressing their First Amendment rights to protest? | ||
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Well, I can tell you there is a small contingent of people that are really aggressive on both sides of the issue. | |
| Now what's interesting is that a lot of people on the pro-life side that I've met out here are younger. | ||
| A lot of the aggressive people on the pro-choice side, per se, seem to be older women. | ||
| It's almost like they want peace in the 60s or something. | ||
| And it's not really, you know, the 1970s anymore. | ||
| And a lot of these younger people have gotten it. | ||
| They read the science. | ||
| They know. | ||
| They see these babies in the womb. | ||
| They know the technology. | ||
| And frankly, one of the younger women I saw here today had a sign that said, a third of my generation has been aborted. | ||
| And I just thought that was just so direct and clear. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's going to be an interesting day out here for sure. | ||
| Well, Chris, you're going to be out there. | ||
| Let's just hang tough. | ||
| We're going to come back to you. | ||
| Let's go to Eadie one more time. | ||
| Eadie, one of the things I'm surprised at, and I'm going to get Cortez, we got Terry Schilling coming up trying to get LeJour. | ||
| I'm actually kind of surprised by the 6-3. | ||
| I thought Roberts might get a week on us and be 5-4. | ||
| Give us your assessment of the, it's monumental that it's 6-3, Eadie Heifel. | ||
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Yeah, I think that was a huge concern in the days leading up to this, just given how much time there was before, between when this rumor of this decision first appeared to when it would finally be released, whether or not one of the more conservative justices would back down and change the outcome of their opinion. | |
| but here we are today, I mean, it's pretty historic that things have stayed, as far as we know right now, the same as when they were first rumored to be released. | ||
| There is an update. | ||
| I've heard that groups like Jane's Revenge are calling for protests and violence starting at 8 tonight, so stay tuned on that. | ||
| 8pm. | ||
| Okay, we'll be doing live. | ||
| What I'd like to do with Denver, and thank you for blowing the break, if they could keep the footage. | ||
| I want to do a split screen and keep the footage there and bring in. | ||
| We have Schilling yet? | ||
| I'll bring in. | ||
| Steve Cortez, let me get your assessment. | ||
| We're going to get Liz Schiller, Terry Schilling. | ||
| Do we have Schilling? | ||
| Okay, let me go to Steve. | ||
| Hang over a second. | ||
| Let me go to Terry Schilling. | ||
| Terry, you've been working on this for many, many decades. | ||
| Give us your thoughts on what just happened. | ||
| It's a great day, Steve. | ||
| Honestly, I think a lot of people never thought this day would come. | ||
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We've been betrayed so many times. | |
| Planned Parenthood versus Casey and a few times before that. | ||
| This is, this is momentous. | ||
| And Steve, I think the thing that strikes me is that this is the fruit of, you know, 50 years of trying and organizing families, but it didn't come until we elected Donald Trump. | ||
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Right. | |
| If you think about that, there were a lot of groups, a lot of people that put their names out there that risked their reputations and went behind the guy, right? | ||
| The crazy guy who we thought was going to blow up the system. | ||
| And he did. | ||
| And, you know, I just it's tough to put my thoughts. | ||
| I just I didn't think it was going to happen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There was always something in the back of my head that told me this was they were going to betray us, that they leaked it on purpose to and they put all this pressure on these guys. | ||
| We can now finally start to save the unborn, you know, and it's a big day. | ||
| It's emotional. | ||
| I'll tell you what, give us an assessment for maybe people who don't follow that closely, the Dobbs Session. | ||
| Why is it important, and what did they actually rule? | ||
| I know you haven't had time to read the opinions yet, but what did they technically actually do today, and then what happens starting this afternoon? | ||
| So they've overturned Roe v. Wade. | ||
| Which set a viability standard, which says that you can't regulate abortion until after the baby is viable outside the womb. | ||
| The problem with viability standard is that it's a moving target. | ||
| As technology increases, it gets shorter and shorter and shorter. | ||
| And you can't govern that way. | ||
| And so now this goes back to the states. | ||
| Now the states can finally start to save the unborn. | ||
| And the fight really just begins, Steve. | ||
| The fight isn't over. | ||
| We've cracked the progressive lock on this issue. | ||
| And can now start to actually protect the unborn children and restore a sense of duty to parents. | ||
| You know, Steve, I think the most hypocritical thing that comes from progressives here is they argue that we have obligations to complete strangers. | ||
| We have to, we have to pay for complete strangers to have health care and social security and Medicare and, and housing and all of this, but we don't owe that to our own children. | ||
| We don't owe nine months in the womb and nine months of financial support to the mother and the child while they're in the womb. | ||
| It's, it's completely heterodox. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| And we can finally get back to some sense of order and some sense of rational social obligations to our fellow man. | ||
| It's a very beautiful day. | ||
| And this goes back to the States. | ||
| Let me ask you, have you had a chance to read the opinion yet? | ||
| You guys called me two minutes after it was put on my desk. | ||
| So I've been actually reading through right now. | ||
| Are you surprised by it's 6-3 instead of 5-4? | ||
| Did that catch you by surprise? | ||
| The 6-3 caught me by surprise. | ||
| I thought for sure that Roberts was going to go the other way. | ||
| Or join the majority and winnow it to where it's not an overturning of Roe, because the Chief Justice can do that, and Roberts has done that in the past. | ||
| But no, it's a huge daisy. | ||
| Why don't we let you go and take a few minutes and read it, and we're going to get you back up. | ||
| I want you, because you're one of the top guys in this area for us. | ||
| Why don't you go ahead and read it, and we'll come back to you. | ||
| Terry Schilling, American Principles Project on a historic day. | ||
| My producer told me if we need to go back to either Edie or Chris, we'll do it. | ||
| Let's bring in Steve Cortez. | ||
| Steve, put it in perspective. | ||
| You're a big pro-life person. | ||
| You've fought for this for a long time. | ||
| I know the groups that you've supported fought for this. | ||
| Give me your perspective. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, it's an amazing day, and I think it's a day to give praise. | ||
| give praise first to God that life has been affirmed and that life will be protected in this country. | ||
| Also give thanks to the people who for 50 years toiled for this and a lot of those times looked very discouraging and these people were working in the lonely wilderness of politics and culture but they prayed on, they persevered and they achieved victory today. | ||
| And then also thanks on the political side, as Terry mentioned, to President Donald Trump. | ||
| This does not happen without him and without the America First Movement. | ||
| And Steve, let me give some thanks because this is important. | ||
| Let me give some thanks to Mitch McConnell who is somebody that I almost never praise publicly, somebody with whom I disagree on almost everything When it comes to judges, he has done his job diligently, he is pro-life, and yes, this is also a victory for Mitch McConnell. | ||
| But you know, regarding the chaos that we see on the screen outside of the Supreme Court right now, and I hope we don't see chaos around the country, but This is really the unfortunate bitter harvest of what the court did 50 years ago with a totally unconstitutional and just illogical ruling. | ||
| And what I mean by that, Steve, is it stole this process, this decision process, away from the American people. | ||
| It said you cannot reach your own consensus. | ||
| through the political democratic small d process in your state legislatures to determine the kinds of most fundamental questions of the world such as when does life begin if we had been allowed to make that decision as a people in a deliberative democratic process We wouldn't have the kind of vitriol and animus that we have right now. | ||
| And clearly, many states' federalism, I hope now, is going to be finally allowed to work. | ||
| States are going to reach very different conclusions, because in New York and California, in all likelihood, and I think this is a tragedy, but in all likelihood, nothing will change. | ||
| Abortion on demand will continue, and the taxpayers in those states will probably have to fund it. | ||
| But in states like Alabama and my home state of Tennessee, we're going to reach very different conclusions. | ||
| And I think on the whole, when you look at the United States, where we'll probably end up politically, is largely where Europe is. | ||
| And what I mean by that is that abortion is allowed, but with very, very significant restrictions. | ||
| And by the way, in Europe, the life issue has ceased to be all that controversial. | ||
| Because they were allowed to reach a democratic consensus. | ||
| So look, I'm totally pro-life, don't get me wrong. | ||
| I'm not saying that I'm okay with any abortion being allowed, but I'm also saying that as a political operative, my guess is that's where it ends up in a lot of places. | ||
| There are narrowly allowed exceptions where abortion is legal, but for the most part, it is illegal. | ||
| Let's go to, we got Liz Yor and I want to thank Real America's Voice. | ||
| We're going to blow our next break too and continue live coverage. | ||
| We've got Edie Heiple from Star News Network who's out in front of the court and of course the intrepid Chris Carter from Real America's Voice in front of the court. | ||
| We're going to go back to them as soon as they have any updates as the crowd assembles. | ||
| We do know that this group Jane's Revenge has called for a night of rage starting at 8 p.m. | ||
| throughout the nation but beginning here in our nation's capital. | ||
| Liz Yor, This is your life's work, ma'am. | ||
| Put it in perspective. | ||
| What actually happened today? | ||
| Well, it's been 50 years in the making, hasn't it, Steve? | ||
| And, sadly, 63 million lives lost. | ||
| Little children who were not able to be great Americans. | ||
| And so it's bittersweet. | ||
| Today is the Feast of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. | ||
| I'm at a conference with canceled priests. | ||
| In Wisconsin, in the heartland of the United States. | ||
| And to me, this is a time, hopefully, for healing for the many women and men who had to endure the decision of an abortion. | ||
| That they will really come back to realize that life is precious. | ||
| This is one of the tenants of our country, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. | ||
| And so my plea is, of course, that there isn't violence. | ||
| Science, really, science and prayer has really proved that this is a living, thriving little baby in the womb. | ||
| And now we can hopefully go back to a real debate. | ||
| But hang on, that's what I wanted to get into. | ||
| Cortez, hang with me here. | ||
| If we have anything about my producers, I want to thank the Real America team in Denver to let me know if we've got to go back out in front of the court. | ||
| It's science and it's also law. | ||
| Liz, you're a pretty tough prosecutor. | ||
| I don't think we've talked enough about the structure of the Dobbs and what was done in Texas. | ||
| The legal side in this long march of 50 years, when there were more cloudy days than there were sunny days, the one thing that's always amazed me, with very little money, Remember, the right-to-life group is the original hobbits when they came into the Republican Party in the 70s. | ||
| I remember my mom and them with the abortion clinics. | ||
| These are the true hobbits. | ||
| Talk to me about the legal part of this. | ||
| How smart and how tough to get a 6-3 decision. | ||
| Trust me, up there at the Supreme Court, Roberts and some of these guys, they're in the cocktail party circuit in Georgetown. | ||
| They would love to go full establishment. | ||
| But it was the science plus brilliant lawyers structuring this in a brilliant way, Liz, you were. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, Steve, I know the pioneers in the pro-life movement, many of whom started here in Illinois, many of whom were arrested just for protesting on a sidewalk in front of an abortion clinic. | ||
| I mean, these guys, for years and years and years, were like voices crying in the wilderness. | ||
| Joe Scheidler, who passed away last year, went to the Supreme Court on an abortion decision. | ||
| Four times he went up to the court. | ||
| 28 years he battled the National Organization of Women. | ||
| And just a few years ago, he won after fighting for 28 years, and the Supreme Court imposed Penalty on the National Organization of Women to pay the legal fees of Joe Scheidler and Thomas More Society. | ||
| This has been a battle with blood, sweat, and tears. | ||
| Challenging abortion decisions, abortion laws in the states. | ||
| You know, those of us, you know, now can only thank those pioneers who, unfortunately, many have passed away, but I'm convinced they're in heaven. | ||
| Looking down and smiling. | ||
| This has been a hard, hard fought battle. | ||
| Look, they were battling the big behemoth Planned Parenthood with billions and billions of dollars worldwide. | ||
| They had nothing except, you know, the grace of God and prayer and a fervor for the baby in the womb. | ||
| This is just a moment that people have been praying for. | ||
| People are out there in the audience crying. | ||
| I just pray that peace and sanity can be restored. | ||
| You know, my personal opinion, Steve, is if we see violence, Roe and the Dobbs decision are just really a trigger. | ||
| This is about the Marxist revolution looking for a pretext to start violence. | ||
| We need to continue to double down and to tell the story, tell the science, and really ask those that are in the pink hats and screaming and yelling vulgarities that they are a child of God, that whatever abortion that they feel shame about and pain about that they can be healed. | ||
| This is a moment, when I pray for it, and I know the pro-life movement really hopes that we can heal as a nation. | ||
| But hope is not a strategy. | ||
| Do you think that the churches tonight and the pro-life centers, do you think they're properly fortified? | ||
| Do you think because they're calling for, they are calling for, this is not me saying this, this is Jane's Revenge and what Ruth sent me and these other groups that are calling for, they're calling for a night of rage tonight. | ||
| That's why I just can't understand why they put this out on a Friday. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I can't either. | ||
| Do you believe that the pro-life movement, do you think people are ready at the pro-life centers and at the churches that have been under attack for the last couple of weeks since the leak happened? | ||
| Yeah, you know, Steve, we've been sounding the alarm the last few weeks, really trying to tell people to harden their churches, to get strong security, contact their local law enforcement, really wake up and because, you know, they're not used to persecution in churches. | ||
| Well, it's here! | ||
| I don't think Jane's Revenge or Rise Up for Abortion Rights or Ruth Sentis are going to back down. | ||
| This is their moment. | ||
| They're going to be screeching and violent and God knows whatever else. | ||
| I'm told that everybody is on board securing their churches and pro-life pregnancy centers. | ||
| This is a job for the people. | ||
| We need to secure those precious houses of worship and those pregnancy centers that are doing the hard work to save lives and help poor women, help poor black women that have nowhere else to turn, who have made the decision to raise their babies. | ||
| This is about what made our country great, is neighbor helping neighbor. | ||
| So we sounded the alarm. | ||
| I just hope and pray that peace will prevail. | ||
| I'm not so naive to think so, but we're doing our level best to make sure that churches and centers are secure. | ||
| Security, both technological as well as people, are out in front. | ||
| Liz, we'll let you go to the conference, but we'd love to be able to maybe get you back in the next hour. | ||
| Liz, how do people, give me your social media, because people are going to want to follow you, particularly over the next couple of days. | ||
| This is going to be quite intense, I'm sure. | ||
| Yes, YourChildren.com. | ||
| I have an article video up about how to secure your facilities, and I'm everywhere on social media under Elizabeth Your. | ||
| Liz Shore, thank you very much. | ||
| We'll be checking in with you and congratulations on 50 years of hard work. | ||
| Cortez, we're going to have Mike Davis up here in a second and I want to go back out to the Supreme Court. | ||
| But Cortez, I don't know, you probably remember, you're a year or two younger than I am. | ||
| But when the pro-life movement first started after this, I remember my mom and these other women in the Catholic Church and some of the younger people would go and pray in front of these abortion centers, right? | ||
| They'd have, say, rosaries and do all this, and it was a... They were looked at as wingnuts. | ||
| They were looked at as, even in the Catholic Church, they were looked at as kind of marginal. | ||
| They were the hobbits to the hobbits. | ||
| Steve Cortes. | ||
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No, and exactly. Oh, there's deserve. Okay, we just lost Cortez. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| I tell you what, Steve, we're gonna reboot you. | ||
| Let's go back out. | ||
| Do we have Edie Heiple or Chris Carter? | ||
| Let's go to Chris. | ||
| Chris Carter, Real America's Voice. | ||
| Chris, give us an update on how the crowd's responding. | ||
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Well, there's a lot more people coming down here, and it's gotten a little aggressive. | |
| I see very aggressive protesting. | ||
| Nobody getting arrested just yet, as this is not a shock to anybody who's been paying attention. | ||
| They're making their voices heard, you know, the pro-choice people and the pro-life people. | ||
| And there's a lot of a lot of confusion, a lot of sounds, but we're here to keep it straight. | ||
| You know, I think when we're covering this right here and you look at the case that came in yesterday, the New York Pistol Association versus Bruin, is that what the court decided to free there was that carrying the right to protect yourself is an inalienable right. | ||
| Now, what the court has decided this morning is that The right to have an abortion is not an inalienable right. | ||
| That is decided by the state. | ||
| You know, a lot of people seem to think that this is going to outlaw abortion. | ||
| It is not. | ||
| What it was doing was overreaching. | ||
| And we heard your previous guest talk about these people who've been fighting for this for decades. | ||
| This is a massive, massive nuclear win for conservatives. | ||
| Chris, I wanted to say, and I've said this for years, about the Right to Life March. | ||
| First, I was shocked that before people like Real America's Voice came along, nobody really covered it, even Fox. | ||
| There would be, I don't know, 250,000, 300,000, 400,000, 500,000. | ||
| In January, bitter cold, virtually always, and until Trump came in, no president actually ever attended. | ||
| President Trump did. | ||
| But what shocked me was how young the crowd was. | ||
| The difference I could see in the pro-life versus the pro-abortion, in the pro-abortion you've got a lot of people out front in the optics of it that are young, but principally driven by older people, whereas the right-to-life movement Was driven by younger people like yourself and others, and you would talk to them and it was about the science and the technology. | ||
| The technology had made it that people understood through sonograms and other methods of technology that they could see that life commenced at conception. | ||
| What's your sense of the crowd today? | ||
| Is the pro-life crowd look younger? | ||
| Is the pro-abortion older? | ||
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Yes, absolutely, Steve. | |
| When I showed up here this morning at about eight o'clock, there were about three young women, young girls, I think maybe 16, 17 years age. | ||
| They had the signs up and they were ready to go. | ||
| And what I see is I see a lot of people from Turning Point. | ||
| I see a lot of younger women out here that are saying, we've read the science. | ||
| We don't accept what you're saying. | ||
| A lot of the older women that are out here, They seem like your prototypical Karen, okay? | ||
| They want to go back to the 70s with peace and love. | ||
| Well, the science doesn't say that. | ||
| The science says that babies have a lot more ability and medical cognitivity than a lot of people have thought as far as being able to feel pain and feel these medical procedures that people said they never did in the past. | ||
| So, these young women are out here making their voices heard and they're out here in strong presence. | ||
| Chris, before we cut away from you, I just want any update. | ||
| You know, Jane's Revenge. | ||
| People should understand there's two groups that are kind of the vanguard of this violence. | ||
| One is called Ruth Sentman, the other is Jane's Revenge, and they've been leaving their material around the city, just not D.C., but other places. | ||
| They've also tried to take credit for a lot of these attacks that are going on in churches and other things. | ||
| I guess Jane's Revenge specifically is calling for a night of rage. | ||
| Beginning at 8 p.m. | ||
| tonight in Washington, D.C. | ||
| and other cities throughout the East Coast. | ||
| Any sense that any of those participants are down there? | ||
| It looks like right now a loud, boisterous, typical, you know, protest within your First Amendment rights of assembly and speech outside the Supreme Court. | ||
| Do you get any sense that the more radical elements of this may be showing up to start to stir things up? | ||
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No doubt earlier when I showed a more aggressive contingent of their movement was here. | |
| I haven't seen anybody outwardly advertising Jane's revenge, but just take a look behind me. | ||
| Where else could they be? | ||
| This is ground zero. | ||
| I will be on the lookout tonight in Washington and a little bit more of the subtler neighborhoods to see if these people show up at any of these Supreme Court justices Personal residence is because as we know and I spoke about earlier. | ||
| They're not inside the court They're smarter than that. | ||
| They know what this was gonna be but now at someone's home We don't know if Merrick Garland has gotten back from Ukraine yet, but will they let this continue? | ||
| They should be ashamed of their behavior as law enforcement officials in this country And I think any reasonable person out there would say the same I Chris, hang on for one second. | ||
| We're going to go back, and we've got Edie Heiple, we've got Chris Carter from Real Interest in Voice. | ||
| Let's go to Mike Davis. | ||
| We have Mike Davis. | ||
| Mike, you're our court expert. | ||
| In fact, you shepherd a couple of these justices through the process, and you were Grassley's right-hand man. | ||
| Walk us through, from the court's perspective, how big a day is this? | ||
| This is huge. | ||
| This is a monumental day. | ||
| This is equivalent to a Brown v. Board of Education day. | ||
| This is one of the most historic days At the Supreme Court and the conservative majority on the Supreme Court finally got rid of a nearly 50-year-old case that was a cancer on our constitutional law, Roe v. Wade, and they're going to return abortion regulations back to the states where those regulations were for the first 200 years of our republic and where those regulations belong. | ||
| And so this is a monumental day. | ||
| I was just doing some producing there. | ||
| Are you surprised by the 6-3 ruling on this not being 5-4? | ||
| No, I'm not surprised. | ||
| It was pretty clear in oral argument that there would be five conservative justices to overturn Roe v. Wade and uphold the abortion regulations. | ||
| And Justice Roberts made clear in oral argument that he was willing to uphold the abortion regulations and not deal with Roe v. Wade. | ||
| Can you just walk people through, technically, actually, what happened legally today? | ||
| Walking briefly just the Dobbs case, what was actually decided, and technically, when Ewans-Cortez keeps saying it's going to go back to the states, what does that mean? | ||
| So, under our Constitution, the federal government has specific and enumerated powers that we, the people, loan the federal government in exchange for the federal government promising to protect our liberties. | ||
| If those powers are not in the Constitution, they belong to the states and the people. | ||
| They do not belong to the federal government. | ||
| The federal government does not have powers that are not in the Constitution. | ||
| But starting about 90 years ago, with the switch in time that They changed nine with the FDR threatening to pack the Supreme Court. | ||
| The Supreme Court flipped that on its head and essentially ruled that the federal government has all powers unless the Constitution specifically says that they don't. | ||
| And liberal judicial activists have taken a very expansive view of the Constitution, of the federal government, of the federal power, and they basically say the federal government has all powers, right? | ||
| And with very limited exceptions. | ||
| What we're seeing with Roe versus Wade today is these constitutionalist judges Justice Alito, Justice Thomas, Justice Gorsuch, Justice Barrett, Justice Kavanaugh said that there's not a federal constitutional right to abortion. | ||
| Nowhere in the Constitution is there a mention of abortion. | ||
| So therefore the abortion regulations belong to the states and the people and they can decide. | ||
| The 50 laboratories of democracy around America can decide. | ||
| And the Democrats are talking about the Supreme Court's assault on democracy here. | ||
| It's the opposite. | ||
| What the Supreme Court did in Roe versus Wade is the most anti-democratic thing that you can do. | ||
| It said that five unelected, lifetime appointed, pay protected federal judges in Washington, DC get to decide abortion regulations for the entire country and freeze out the Democrat process. | ||
| What this does is it allows our state legislatures, our local elected state representatives to work in their communities to decide what's best for them. | ||
| And so if you don't like abortion restrictions, move to California. | ||
| If you don't like COVID restrictions, move to Florida. | ||
| Hang over one second, Mike. | ||
| I want to go to Steve Cortez. | ||
| I'll have Steve Cortez back up. | ||
| Neil Katia, who's the font of all wisdom on MSNBC about all things. | ||
| I think he was for an afternoon an interim solicitor general. | ||
| He couldn't get confirmed, but I think they put him in like for an afternoon. | ||
| So he goes on there as a solicitor general of the United States. | ||
| What he was is Boris Epstein's law professor over at Georgetown, okay? | ||
| So law professor Katia. | ||
| He's been making a big deal about the decision yesterday, Steve Cortez, regarding the Second Amendment and then about abortion. | ||
| Can you walk us through what his analysis is? | ||
| And I'll go back to Mike Davis. | ||
| Yeah, so he has been tweeting and pontificating on this supposed lack of logic between the Supreme Court saying That there is a constitutional right to firearms, but now saying today that there is no constitutional right to an abortion. | ||
| What he should do is read the actual Constitution because it is explicit and clear. | ||
| Regarding the right to bear arms and the states cannot infringe upon that, right? | ||
| There is no right to an abortion clearly neither explicit nor implied in the Constitution therefore States very much have a right to regulate or even prohibit abortion and Neal Katyal in this regard by the way Steve I think to an even larger point for sort of the the politics and culture right now the United States He is really the personification of the failures of credentialism. | ||
| And what I mean by that is, you mentioned that he's a professor at Georgetown, our common university alma mater. | ||
| I don't think they want to claim us, but he's a professor of law there. | ||
| He has worked at the most prestigious law firms in the country, graduated from Yale Law School, taught as a visiting professor at Harvard. | ||
| On paper, he looks like a brilliant legal scholar, but in reality he can't even understand the simplest of constitutional concepts, which is, again, that the right to bear arms is explicit. | ||
| and stated plainly in the Constitution. | ||
| There was never a right to an abortion. | ||
| It was invented by the court in 1972. | ||
| And thank goodness now it took decades, but thank goodness this court is making it right. | ||
| And in doing so, they are not saying that abortion is prohibited. | ||
| Now, it is certainly my wish and the wish of millions and millions of Americans that abortion would be prohibited, and that we will protect innocent, precious, pre-born human life. | ||
| However, the democratic process is going to arrive, as I mentioned earlier, at very different determinations in different states. | ||
| And that is how it's supposed to work in this country. | ||
| You know, as Terry Schilling mentioned, in a lot of ways, this is not a finality. | ||
| This is the beginning. | ||
| This is the beginning of the process where we can return it to the people, always should have been, and the deliberative democratic process can decide, as it should decide, on all these fundamental issues of life. | ||
| Things like, what constitutes a marriage? | ||
| When does life begin? | ||
| These fundamental foundational elements of our life and our society must be decided via the deliberative process, not by dictate from... | ||
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Steve, we're having a little trouble. | |
| You cut out the end, but I want to ask once again, give your analysis of Europe, what happened in Europe and why you believe we're going to go more to a European model where this will not be at the front burner as a national issue. | ||
| If it's a front burner, it'll be in municipal elections or in state elections. | ||
| What's your European analogy? | ||
| I'm sorry, Steve, I was losing there. | ||
| Are you still with me? | ||
| Yeah, we're going to have to reboot him. | ||
| Let's go ahead and try to reboot him. | ||
| Mike Davis. | ||
| Mike Davis, I want to go back to the Neil Katia. | ||
| He's saying, hey, he's making this equivalence between the court's radical in regards to guns and what they just did in abortions. | ||
| What's your assessment of Neil Katia's position? | ||
| And that's the problem with the left is they take a political outcome driven approach to every court decision. | ||
| They don't look at the analysis. | ||
| They don't look at the text of the Constitution. | ||
| They don't look at what that text meant at the time of its enactment, textualism, originalism, constitutionalism. | ||
| They just look at outcomes. | ||
| All they care about is liberals win, conservatives lose, Democrats win, Republicans lose. | ||
| That's all they care about. | ||
| So what we're seeing with this Roe case, it's very clear. | ||
| There is a clear right to keep and bear arms in the Second Amendment, and that right applies to the states through the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. | ||
| There is zero mention of abortion in the Constitution, so therefore there is not a right to abortion guaranteed by the federal government. | ||
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It belongs to the states and the people. | |
| Have you just, technically, have you had a chance, was there any change in this opinion that came out today as a lead from Justice Alito's earlier? | ||
| Did the pressure that was put on at his home and at other places have any impact whatsoever, at least as far as you can see? | ||
| I haven't had a chance to fully read this opinion, but it appears to me it did not. | ||
| And Justice Alito is not the type of person, if you know this man, he's not the type of person who is going to be cowed or phased by a bunch of Angry leftists with, you know, tattoos and 400 pounds outside of the Supreme Court screaming. | ||
| Were you surprised? | ||
| Walk me through the 6-3. | ||
| Were you surprised that both of them, on the Second Amendment yesterday and today on abortion, these were a right to life? | ||
| These were 6-3 opinions. | ||
| I'm not surprised because as we talked about yesterday, Steve, the Chief Justice is not a liberal. | ||
| He is an incrementalist and so what he did here with this Dobbs opinion is incremental. | ||
| He would say that the court would uphold this Mississippi 15-week ban but not decide Roe and then, you know, decide Roe down the road. | ||
| The problem is then a state's going to pass a six-week ban or a Four-week ban and then it's going to come right back up to the Supreme Court. | ||
| So the five conservative justices just ripped off the band-aid today and said this is, you know, this Roe versus Wade decision from nearly 50 years ago is just made up. | ||
| You know, five liberal justices on the Supreme Court just invented this federal constitutional right to protect the abortion industry and to make it so the abortion industry is just about the only industry in America that is not subject To state regulations, and so I think that the five justices got it right. | ||
| The Chief Justice got to the right result here in the sense that he upheld the Mississippi abortion regulation, but he takes a more incremental approach. | ||
| With the gun case yesterday, it was an incremental approach. | ||
| There were two prior gun cases that dealt with our Second Amendment to keep and bear arms. | ||
| And that was a natural incremental extension of those rights yesterday from your individual right to keep and bear arms. | ||
| That right applies to the states through the 14th Amendment, and then that right applies to you when you're in public for concealed carry. | ||
| Walk us through the left. | ||
| You could tell they were very nervous about this Dobbs case from the very beginning. | ||
| What was the brilliance of the legal strategy of folks that have been working on this? | ||
| And why did it take to get to 2022 when the arguments it seems that these arguments are not new? | ||
| You could have made these arguments 10 years ago, 20 years ago. | ||
| Was it technology that changed? | ||
| Was it their legal strategy that changed? | ||
| How did this all occur in June of 2022, sir? | ||
| A big part of this, there are three people who are responsible for today. | ||
| That is President Donald J. Trump, who stuck to his word that he was going to appoint people who interpret the Constitution as it's written and not just make it up or couch the political pressure. | ||
| And he did that by transforming the 5-4 John Roberts courts, the 5-4 Clarence Thomas court with President Trump's appointment of Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett. | ||
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Okay, did we lose Mike Davis too? | |
| Okay, let's try to reboot Mike Davis and try to get him back up. | ||
| Let me know when Cortez is up. | ||
| I'm having a slight technical problem. | ||
| Can we go back out to the, uh, can we go back out to Chris Carter? | ||
| Is Chris Carter ready? | ||
| Chris? | ||
| Chris Carter of Real America's Voice is outside the court. | ||
| Chris, what side of the court are you actually on? | ||
| I just want to make sure people know the place because the courts obviously goes all the way down a big part of Second Street across from the Capitol. | ||
| Where are you located? | ||
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Okay, so right now where I am is directly in front of the court. | |
| The way I have this shot framed is a little different, but you can see right now the younger pro-life people have started to show up. | ||
| It's a celebratory mood down here. | ||
| I thought it would be a lot more aggressive. | ||
| These people are here celebrating. | ||
| There's a ton of young people. | ||
| I'm directly in front of the Supreme Court, and I can just look. | ||
| There's a lot more coming and coming. | ||
| Look, as far as I can see down the road, They're coming here now. | ||
| I mean, I know you can see what I can see, but it's pretty impressive. | ||
| I thought it would be a lot more of a alleged maybe Antifa presence down here, but I don't see anything like that. | ||
| If they didn't even have the megaphones, you wouldn't even know they were here. | ||
| Chris, give us a sense of the pro-life crowd when you say younger. | ||
| What college, high school, mid-20s? | ||
| Talk about their exuberance. | ||
| These people are late to the fight, but they have been absolutely critical to this entire movement. | ||
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Truly, there are a lot of younger people, a lot of high school people, like you mentioned the March for Life earlier, you know, a lot of college-age people. | |
| A lot of turning point, you know, that might be down here looking at what's going on. | ||
| We know that they're big and active in the, you know, colleges. | ||
| But really, you see a lot of younger people. | ||
| I mean, I'm looking right behind me now and I Okay, we just lost him. | ||
| Do we have Edie? | ||
| Do we have Edie up? | ||
| Okay, so big day here at the Supreme Court in Washington, D.C. | ||
| on Capitol Hill. | ||
| There's a lot of people trying to pull on the signal. | ||
| Edie's there? | ||
| Let's go to Edie Heiple from Star News Network, Michael Patrick Leahy's great group outside of the Supreme Court. | ||
| Edie, give us an update on what's going on. | ||
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Everything's kind of settled down here. | |
| I mean, the crowd is about the same, if not more, than when we first got here. | ||
| So the numbers are here, but really, the protesters who've been angry from the start have kind of settled down. | ||
| And the groups of pro-life people are out here praying, rejoicing. | ||
| A lot of them are just happy to be here and just, you know, everything's settled down for the moment as far as we can tell. | ||
| Is the sting out of the pro-abortion crowd because there's just more numbers or they feel like this is inevitable? | ||
| They start off a little hot. | ||
| Why have they kind of run out of gas? | ||
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I think it's probably just initial deflation after seeing the decision come down and the fact that I think there are more pro-life people out here today celebrating. | |
| I mean, even after this came down, more people started coming in from the streets with signs and families and, you know, they're all out here celebrating. | ||
| So I think it's a bit of both. | ||
| What is the sense? | ||
| Give us the age, particularly for our podcast and radio audience that can't see the amazing visuals. | ||
| And by the way, this is why you've got to get our morning newsletter. | ||
| The visuals that Edie Heipel and the Real America's Voice team with Chris Carter have are pretty stunning. | ||
| Give us the age of the crowd. | ||
| Is it high school, college, 20s? | ||
| We know the pro-life side is much, much younger, but how young? | ||
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| No, actually, the majority of the people here today are younger. | ||
| High school, college age, that's probably the average age of those out here, as well as families with young children, which I think really speaks to where the movement is right now. | ||
| It's not a relic of the past. | ||
| These are people who are my age, younger, in high school, young children out here all celebrating and who've been fighting for years to years to overturn this decision, not even imagining that this could happen in a lifetime. | ||
| I mean, I think many of us, myself included, thought something like this would happen maybe when we were 65, certainly not at this age. | ||
| So it's pretty historic and there's a lot of young people out here celebrating. | ||
| Okay, Edie, thank you so much. | ||
| You stay there with your camera. | ||
| We're going to come back. | ||
| We've got Chris Carter. | ||
| We've got Edie Heiple is showing up. | ||
| Okay, let's go to Terry Show. | ||
| Terry, we've got a couple of minutes before you go to break. | ||
| I want to thank Real America's Voice. | ||
| Let's blow all the breaks in the first hour. | ||
| Terry, you've had a chance to review the documents. | ||
| Give us your assessment. | ||
| It's incredibly strong, Steve. | ||
| I mean, look, I can't find what's been changed since the original draft that we saw a few months ago that was written so strongly. | ||
| Roe is overturned, right? | ||
| And what we're talking about now is you have states that have trigger laws that go into effect immediately. | ||
| Louisiana, South Dakota, and a few others. | ||
| Now, there are others Look, abortion is automatically going to be banned in a lot of key states. | ||
| Thirteen states have trigger laws. | ||
| And now, the big question, I guess, is what happens with these states that never actually repealed their pro-life laws? | ||
| Like Michigan, for example. | ||
| Michigan and Wisconsin both have old laws that were never repealed after the 1973 decision. | ||
| You're going to have a lot of states that have decisions to make. | ||
| Now is the time for clarity, Steve. | ||
| That's the big question. | ||
| Everyone thought, not everyone, we knew better, but a lot of people thought that when Roe was overturned, abortion would be illegal all across the country. | ||
| That's not how this works. | ||
| We can now fight on this issue. | ||
| We can now organize and engage with our elected officials to protect the unborn and actually make progress on it. | ||
| So this is a big day. | ||
| It's huge. | ||
| And we have so many people to thank for it. | ||
| Including the war if I get ash if I ask you to hold on we're just a tiny part of this I got to tell you this this pro-life movement have been the hobbits of the hobbits and Here's what's so amazing over the last at least since I've been able to see it up close and personal the last 10 or 12 Years here with Andrew It is it is so such a young movement It's people that are really quite young that have been driving this, at least at one level, at the activist level. | ||
| I know the lawyers and the people that have been doing this have been incredible and put 50 years of their life. | ||
| Father Pavone, who we're going to try to get on here. | ||
| Terry, we're going to ask you to please hold on. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| I want to thank Real America's Voice for giving us the entire hour. | ||
| A historic day in the nation's capital, a historic day throughout the nation. | ||
| Roe v. Wade has been overturned. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back in the warm in just a second. | ||
| Bring it on and now we'll fight to the end. | ||
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| It's all started. | ||
| Everything's begun. | ||
| And you are over. | ||
| Cause we're taking down the CCP. | ||
| Spread the word all through Hong Kong. | ||
| We will fight till they're all gone. | ||
| We rejoice when there's no more. |
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