May 28, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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The Chief of Police of Consolidated Independence School District. | |
| He was convinced, and again, I want to go back and say, you know, he was convinced at the time that there was no more threat to the children, and that the subject was barricaded, and that they had time to organize with the proper equipment to go in. | ||
| The subject had already hit. | ||
| you know, three officers and hit two officers and I didn't answer the final question. A third, a Border Patrol agent was grazed as well, but no one was, no police officer was seriously injured. | ||
| First of all, hey, Texas embraces and teaches, okay, the active shooter doctrine, the active shooter doctrine. As long as there's kids and as long as there's someone's firing, you go to the gun, you find them, you neutralize them, period. | ||
| And there's only, you know, there's some nuances with going, transitioning to a barricaded subject. | ||
| Also transitioning to a hostage situation. | ||
| And of course, that, the decision at the scene was that this is still a barricaded subject that did not go back to an active, to the situation. | ||
| Where was the resource officer? | ||
| Why was he not on campus? | ||
| He was not on campus. | ||
| Again, again, we'll have all those answers down the road, okay? | ||
| ...words that will forever, forever haunt the community of Evaldi, Texas. | ||
| Of course, it was the wrong decision. | ||
| Of course, it was the wrong decision. | ||
| That from Corporal Stephen McGraw, the Director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, right there in a 40-plus minute news conference in which he, to his credit, laid out the haunting timeline of what happened at the Robb Elementary School. | ||
| He said the shooter went in, He said that police followed him in soon after. | ||
| There were 911 calls, including from young children inside the classroom, saying there were kids alive, there were shots being fired. | ||
| The local school district police chief was outside the door. | ||
| He determined it was no longer an active duty situation. | ||
| He did not order his men to break through the door. | ||
| Of course, it was the wrong decision, Corporal McGraw going on to say. | ||
| It was the wrong decision. | ||
| Period. | ||
| There's no excuse for that. | ||
| CNN's Shimon Prokopis live on the scene for us. | ||
| Shimon, we have for a couple of days wanted the truth, wanted the facts, wanted the specific timeline. | ||
| We just got it, and it is damning, it is haunting, and for 21 families it is devastating. | ||
| It is very devastating. | ||
| And now you know why the police were hesitating and why they were sort of giving us the runaround. | ||
| Because now we have the facts and they're not good. | ||
| They're not good for the police here. | ||
| They're not good for anyone, law enforcement. | ||
| The decision to not go inside that classroom was a deadly decision. | ||
| What happened at 11-28? | ||
| The shooter crashes. | ||
| The first 9-1-1 call is placed, ostensibly from someone who saw that. | ||
| Shots are fired by the gunman outside the school. | ||
| Shooter enters the school at 11-33. | ||
| Three officers arrive and enter the school at 11-35. | ||
| 12-03, 19 officers are in the hallway. | ||
| So here's what happens after 19 officers locate inside the school, outside the classroom. | ||
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12-03. | |
| Call from inside the classroom to 911-1203. | ||
| 12-15, Border Patrol Tactical Unit members arrive. | ||
| 12-16, so that's 13 minutes after the 9-1-1 call from inside the classroom. | ||
| So you know at least one person's alive, right? | ||
| They had to press 9-1-1 call. | ||
| Another 9-1-1 call comes 13 minutes later. | ||
| So you know either that person is still alive or another person is alive and calling. | ||
| And that person reports that 8 to 9 students are alive at 12-16. | ||
| Why don't you run in at 12-16, Frank? | ||
| This is to me! | ||
| That's the part of the timeline that is the most disturbing. | ||
| They stay out there. | ||
| They don't kill the suspect for another 45 minutes. | ||
| What on earth explains that? | ||
| Welcome. | ||
| It's Friday, 27th of May, Year of the Lord 2022. | ||
| We're bringing in Bernie Carrick. | ||
| How could the authorities have allowed this to go on for three days and just have the grossest misinformation on the timeline? | ||
| This is what we kept asking from the beginning. | ||
| And now it's completely, completely, totally changed. | ||
| Hang on, Brad. | ||
| Just let me read. | ||
| The gunman entered the school now at 11. | ||
| He was in the ditch at 28. | ||
| Five minutes later, he enters the school at 11.33. | ||
| The first officer entered at 11.35. | ||
| First officer entered at 1135. | ||
| 19 officers are in the hallway at 1203. | ||
| Then 911 calls from students, 1203. | ||
| 12-03, she whispered, she whispered, she's in room 112. | ||
| 12-10, said multiple dead, called back, said multiple dead. | ||
| 12-13, called again. | ||
| 12-16, says eight to nine students still alive. | ||
| 12-19, students calls from room 1-1-1, next door. | ||
| 12-23, the three shots heard while some little kids on the call. | ||
| 1236, another call. | ||
| 1243, ask for police. | ||
| 1247 calls again. | ||
| 1247, ask for police. | ||
| And now we know why these guys have lied and misrepresented and spun. | ||
| And to have that guy up there and says, in Texas we have an active shooter doctrine. | ||
| Just not the case. | ||
| Bernie Kerrick. | ||
| Yeah, the unfortunate thing is, Steve, as I said this morning, it is the case. | ||
| The active shooter doctrine is what's taught, not only in Texas, but around the country. | ||
| And that is, if it's an active shooter, and there are children, you neutralize the shooter, period. | ||
| In this situation, you have the incident commander basically at You know, basically standing down his men. | ||
| And I'm really disturbed by the fact that the incident commander was actually the chief of police from that village from that town. | ||
| He's the one that made the decision. | ||
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How he made that decision, I don't know, because... Okay, here's, okay, Bernie, hang on a second. | |
| You were police commissioner of New York. | ||
| You had a chief of police. | ||
| You got chief of police in Washington, D.C., you got chief of police in Richmond, Virginia, and Tulsa, Oklahoma. | ||
| This is a town of 15, he's got six guys. | ||
| He's not even a squad commander, is that correct? | ||
| When we say chief, that's like an honorific title. | ||
| He's not a chief of anything. | ||
| He's a squad commander, right? | ||
| He's got six guys. | ||
| So he keeps saying chief. | ||
| That's like people equate that to the chief of Detroit, the chief of Tulsa, of Indianapolis, of Richmond. | ||
| That's not what it is. | ||
| This guy's not trained. | ||
| He's a squad commander. | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
| At that level. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty much that equivalent. | ||
| You look, you know, between the guys that went in first, the guys that went in first, there's five guys. | ||
| Then he had another 19. | ||
| So he had a total of 24 guys in that hallway, three of which, two got shot, one was grazed, knocked him out of the box. | ||
| He still has 22 guys. | ||
| 22 guys in that hallway, that would be the equivalent like, you know, that's a sergeant in the NYPD, the sergeant, or maybe a lieutenant would be there. | ||
| Bottom line is, Steve, he had two guys shot. | ||
| This isn't a barricaded subject. | ||
| He had two guys shot. | ||
| There's information coming through 9-1-1 to dispatch. | ||
| Whether the dispatcher was giving it to the incident commander or not, don't tell me they didn't hear the shots being fired. | ||
| At that point, they should have engaged the target. | ||
| They said the door was locked. | ||
| They were waiting for the door to be open. | ||
| I have to tell you, Stephen, I brought this up to Mayor Giuliani this morning. | ||
| You know, him and I were trapped inside 75 Barkley Street in the aftermath of 9-11 who couldn't get out when Tower 2 imploded on top of us. | ||
| I basically was going to order my guys to blow the hinges off the doors to get us out of that room. | ||
| We finally got somebody in to let us out. | ||
| But if we hadn't, I would have gotten that door open. | ||
| In this case, they were waiting for a set of keys. | ||
| That's their answer. | ||
| Come on, that's the wrong answer, man. | ||
| You had 19 kids, two teachers in that classroom, in those two rooms that were adjoined by an interior corridor. | ||
| Don't tell me you were waiting for keys. | ||
| That is the wrong answer. | ||
| Here's what I don't understand. | ||
| How can you have a 1203? | ||
| How can you have 19 officers in a hallway at 1203 right there next to where these classrooms are and not take the guy down for another 50 minutes? | ||
| I don't understand that. | ||
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How can police officers even think like that? | |
| Here's my question. | ||
| What did the Bortec guys do? | ||
| There were four of them. | ||
| What did they do that the cops couldn't have done? | ||
| The cops should have done what they did. | ||
| The Bortak guys got into the room, they breached the room, and they killed the guy. | ||
| There's a major, major problem here. | ||
| And I felt bad for McCraw. | ||
| If you watch the public safety director for Texas, You know, he's put all this information together. | ||
| As he said at the conference, he wasn't there. | ||
| He doesn't have details from, you know, exactly what the decision-making was. | ||
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The other thing is, Steve, keep in mind... Whoa, whoa, whoa, Bernie, Bernie, Bernie. | |
| That doesn't wash. | ||
| It's three days ago. | ||
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He's the head of DPS for the state of Texas. | |
| Why hasn't he gone through on a whiteboard and found moment by moment, minute by minute, what happened with every officer? | ||
| That's what we've seen now. | ||
| That's what we're seeing now. | ||
| But we have another problem. | ||
| You know, everybody's looking for, they're looking for the chief. | ||
| They want to interview the chief. | ||
| You're not going to interview this chief. | ||
| This chief was a witness to a criminal investigation. | ||
| We're not going to get anything from the chief or anything from those interior guys at this point. | ||
| I'm sure they're going to lawyer up. | ||
| Steve, they got some major, major problems. | ||
| You had two kids that called 911 that are still alive. | ||
| You had two kids died on the way to the hospital that basically would have lived if somebody got to them in advance. | ||
| This is a mess. | ||
| This is a mess and I love the law enforcement community. | ||
| I love these men and women that do this job, but there was a wrong decision made. | ||
| They should have taken the shooter out. | ||
| And why they did not? | ||
| There's only one person that knows. | ||
| That was the incident commander. | ||
| That was the chief on the scene. | ||
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He made that call. | |
| But he's a chief of a six-man police force. | ||
| There are 12, 14, 15, 20 other people that are law enforcement officers. | ||
| Some of them are federal officers. | ||
| Where's the initiative to say, hey, I got it, you're wrong, and we're going in? | ||
| Or just three cops saying, guess what? | ||
| We're going to do a three-man tactical unit and just go in like you guys are taught. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| It doesn't wash. | ||
| He's a police chief of a six-man police force in some small town, 15,000 people in southwest Texas. | ||
| I agree with everything you're saying. | ||
| The problem is, you know, We don't have the answers. | ||
| And you know, the only people that's going to get those answers is the district attorney, because I promise you there's going to be a DA's investigation. | ||
| And if I was the attorney general, the state attorney general in Texas, the Paxton, I'd be looking at this already. | ||
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It doesn't do us any good. | |
| Abbott goes down there, and Abbott, at least when we came on air, he's down there and all he's doing is throwing money at it. | ||
| They've got every department down there. | ||
| They're going to throw money at this thing. | ||
| You can't throw money. | ||
| They've got every department. | ||
| They're going to take care of people's education, psychology. | ||
| That's all fine. | ||
| But it's a little unseemly to go down and say we're going to put all these resources when his responsibility is to get to the bottom of what happened and why those parents were kept outside. | ||
| And if you had 19 in the school, you had another grunch of officers out there, or if those officers were taken out at 12 o'clock, if they came out of the building and those are the officers that formed that guard to keep the parents out, I don't know how you ever solved this. | ||
| It's even worse. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how the, I don't know how the law enforcement in Texas, quite frankly, recovers. | ||
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If those officers... They're not, not from that department. | |
| Listen, if I was the governor, Steve, right now, I would basically take over the town. | ||
| I'd have the Department of Public Safety for Texas take over all policing in that town. | ||
| There's a major failure of leadership involving this incident and the fact that we got 20 different versions of what happened over the last three days. | ||
| And a couple of those were from that one the guy with the cowboy hat was a DPS public affairs officer. I think he was a he was a spokesman. He clearly got his somebody gave him those things to write down. He gave a timeline that's just totally inaccurate. Right. We're sitting here going how did the guy walk around shooting 12 minutes outside the school. | ||
| What turns out, it wasn't 12 minutes. | ||
| He came right from the ditch, climbed the fence, and entered the school five minutes later. | ||
| Which, you know, is reasonable. | ||
| Bernie, hang over a second. | ||
| I appreciate you doing this. | ||
| And I'm obviously not getting on you. | ||
| We obviously support law enforcement, but this one particularly. | ||
| The searing images of the parents being handcuffed, being tased, being knocked to the ground. | ||
| If those officers were actually in the building and came outside to keep the parents back... I mean, I don't know, man. | ||
| I just don't know. | ||
| I don't know how the parents handle it, but that is an image. | ||
| This is the administrative state. | ||
| Very bureaucratic. | ||
| Where was the initiative? | ||
| The police officer, the thin blue line is what keeps us between us, civilization and chaos. | ||
| And there, it was the agent of chaos, or exacerbated the chaos. | ||
| Let me say that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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| I want to go back to Bernie. | ||
| Bernie, just to clear up in people's minds, active shooter doctrine, because this is where it's getting kind of foggy. | ||
| Explain to the audience what that means. | ||
| What's an active, what is an active shooter doctrine? | ||
| You talked about this this morning that you didn't think had been followed. | ||
| Walkers, and you actually came on after Buffalo and he said the police officer, I think was off duty security, was off duty police officer or retired, was a security guard there. | ||
| They did not follow the act of shooter. | ||
| They try to go to the body mass. | ||
| Explain exactly what it means. | ||
| The active shooter doctrine is basically, if there is an active shooter, and there are people that are in danger, the threat of deadly force against them, there's no waiting anymore, no calling a SWAT team, no calling hostage negotiators, you take out the shooter. | ||
| Period. | ||
| You engage and take out the shooter. | ||
| In this case, the team leader, if you will, event commander, whatever they called him, he decided he was classifying this as a, I forget what the hell they call it now. | ||
| But he basically told them to stand down and wait. | ||
| He was waiting for additional equipment. | ||
| He was waiting for board attack. | ||
| And at that point, there were shots fired. | ||
| There were people calling 911. | ||
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Dispatch was giving out calls. | |
| Was he waiting for a bigger tactical unit? | ||
| Or were they going into a hostage situation where they negotiate with the hostage taker? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| According to the public safety director, he was waiting for additional resources. | ||
| The bottom line is, he called it a barricade subject. | ||
| No, this wasn't about a barricaded subject. | ||
| This was an active shooter. | ||
| There's no other way. | ||
| You can't make anything in this situation other than an active shooter. | ||
| Period. | ||
| You can't do it. | ||
| You can't do it. | ||
| And given the doctrine, given the way they're trained, every cop in that hallway should have engaged or attempted to engage the shooter. | ||
| Period. | ||
| Period. | ||
| That's their training. | ||
| It's national, Steve. | ||
| This is all over this country since the aftermath of 9-11. | ||
| You know, that's what they're trained. | ||
| That's what they're trained. | ||
| Which is why I said this morning, we didn't have this timeline this morning. | ||
| But I said it this morning. | ||
| It's odd that during the course of the shootings, they didn't engage. | ||
| Where were they? | ||
| Well, we now know they were lined up in a hallway, down the hallway from the actual room the guy was in. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| And the kids calling on the cell phones. | ||
| Or the teacher. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| You hear the shooting in the background. | ||
| And here's what's disturbing. | ||
| How could... I want to ask you this because I'm trying to be positive. | ||
| How could we be three days into this, whatever, and it took hectoring of the media and really upright, I think this is, the great Tim Poole put out a tweet and said he's finally found something that united both left and right, was the outrage over this. | ||
| Why, with DPS and other senior people in Texas, how did we go for three days and not have the basic timeline? | ||
| Now we have one that's, to be blunt, is totally different than what people were told. | ||
| How did that happen? | ||
| Well, here's what I think happened. | ||
| We can only speculate. | ||
| I think the locals were giving out the information. | ||
| I think the locals that were actually involved in the incident were trying to protect themselves. | ||
| They were given public safety, you know, what they thought would help them. | ||
| And the director, when he gave his press conference this morning, he said, the information I'm going to give you is what I know to be fact. | ||
| What I know to be fact is coming from 9-1-1 calls, coming from video calling, coming from actual witnesses. | ||
| He said that this morning. | ||
| There's a big difference between that and what we were hearing over the last 48 hours. | ||
| Bernie, how do people keep up? | ||
| Any other lessons from this? | ||
| Anything you want to say as we wrap up? | ||
| I think one of the things that comes out of this, Steve, we've heard this argument before where we're waiting for resources. | ||
| We were waiting for a A ballistic shield. | ||
| We were waiting for rams. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Every cop car in the country put a ballistic shield in the trunk of the car. | ||
| Put a ram in the trunk of the car. | ||
| I'm sick of the excuses. | ||
| If you had that kind of excuse, and Giuliani was the mayor, you'd all be fired. | ||
| The entire executive staff would be fired. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| You know, you're talking, what, $1,500 a car? | ||
| $1,500 a car, put it in the car. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look, they step into harm's way every day, but, you know, you've got to stand and deliver when you sign up to protect and serve. | ||
| It's unfortunate, but, you know, it happens. | ||
| Anything else on the son? | ||
| The interviews by the father and the mother for the son, I think, reinforce my point that responsibility lies with the children and the parents of the children. | ||
| I think this, I think that the interviews by the parents have come out to date have just been, if it hasn't enraged people, it should enrage them. | ||
| It's just, it's just not acceptable. | ||
| And you're going to continue to have this problem until you have a direct line of responsibility and accountability parent to child. | ||
| And if it's too much, parents overwhelmed, then they got to go get services. | ||
| They got to get help and they got to put the kids on a watch list. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Steve, there's one more thing, and this is probably more important than anything, because as I said this morning, we're going to see copycats. | ||
| We're going to see things like this that happen from time to time. | ||
| The one thing I'm sick of, every time one of these things happen, the authorities know about it. | ||
| The authorities interviewed him. | ||
| The authorities arrested him. | ||
| The authorities questioned him. | ||
| I'm tired of hearing how we always knew this was going to happen, and then it happened, And it was allowed to happen. | ||
| Why? | ||
| We have to we have to fix that void. | ||
| We have to fix that void. | ||
| There has to be a way to fix that void. | ||
| When you have somebody that's questioned and somebody that's that's all over social media saying they're going to do things like this. | ||
| How are they allowed to buy a gun? | ||
| Where's the flagging mechanism that stops them? | ||
| That's got to be fixed. | ||
| Okay, Bernie. | ||
| One thing, yes, but what we don't have to focus on, this whole debate on guns right now, to me, is so far off the mark. | ||
| It's got to be on top of, like, the research. | ||
| I think there's something out of Buffalo today with a local Buffalo TV station that talks about there may have been a federal officer that knew something about The kid in New York had been flagged. | ||
| And we understand people are strained for resources and they're strained for this, but that's where you're going to nip this in the butt. | ||
| Not debating the tactics of the police afterwards, as horrible as it is to go through. | ||
| Bernie, thank you for changing your schedule up and doing this for everybody. | ||
| You're so respected by this audience. | ||
| How do people follow you? | ||
| I know you're going to have a lot to say on social media this weekend about this topic. | ||
| How do people follow you? | ||
| Bernard Carrick on Twitter and all the social media platforms. | ||
| Thank you very much, Bernie. | ||
| Honored to have you on here. | ||
| Okay, we're going to, I want to bring in Joanna, Joanne McGrary? | ||
| Joni. | ||
| Joni. | ||
| Good thing about Joanna Miller. | ||
| Joanna Miller is going to join us at 6. | ||
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| Joni, tell me about what is No College Mandates? | ||
| Is that what we got? | ||
| You're tying into the war room. | ||
| Tell us about it. | ||
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A little bit, yes. | |
| I'm one of the co-founders of NoCollegeMandates.com, and what we are is a coalition of several thousand college stakeholders who are united to end campus COVID-19 vaccine mandates that are required for enrollment at 1,000 colleges across the country, and 325 of them require boosters. | ||
| So that's our mission statement. | ||
| Hold it, give this again, go with the statistics, how many colleges throughout the country? | ||
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1,000 colleges, more or less, give or take, mandate the primary series of vaccination, the COVID-19 vaccination for all of their students as a condition of enrollment. | |
| And at some colleges that includes staff and faculty. | ||
| and then 325 of those 1,000 mandate boosters for their community members, their students as well. | ||
| Are these weighted towards some of the more elite, more progressive universities? | ||
| Like, I'm throwing out a random, like, Ivy or Ivy-adjacent, Ivy-adjacent colleges? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Yes. | ||
| You know, in some states you will find very, very few colleges that mandate. | ||
| Some states, state governments don't allow colleges to mandate, especially if they're public schools. | ||
| By and large, the colleges that mandate are the more liberal, more elite schools. | ||
| All of the I.V.s mandate. | ||
| Every elite school that's I.V. | ||
| adjacent mandates, unless they're prohibited by state law, which would happen in Virginia, where the A.G. | ||
| changed that up after he got into office. | ||
| So, yes. | ||
| And all of the I.V.s except for Cornell mandate the booster. | ||
| Hang on for one second. | ||
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| Let's go back to Joni McGarry. | ||
| Here's what I don't understand. | ||
| What did these universities, Joni, base this It's one thing to say a kid's got to wear a mask inside to get a vaccine, Dean, to do this, but to say you cannot come to the university. | ||
| We will reject your admissions or show you the door. | ||
| And we just had this thing at the Air Force Academy, Captain Bennett is still working on it, about letting the kids have a diploma, but not letting them walk for graduation and not become commissioned and not becoming officers. | ||
| What did these universities, these centers of higher learning and science and evidence and the Cartesian method, all that, what did they base this upon, ma'am? | ||
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I think they based it solely on CDC talking points and recommendations. | |
| And when the vaccine mandates first started, I think there was some belief, even though we knew by then, that the vaccines didn't prevent transmission. | ||
| But the basis was, we need them to protect the students from severe illness and death, and we need them to protect the community, because the students, by getting vaccinated, will protect other people. | ||
| And we now know, and we've known for some time, That the vaccines do not prevent transmission, and the students don't necessarily need this medical intervention because they are not a high-risk group by any stretch. | ||
| And by now, most of them have had COVID because, again, the vaccines didn't prevent transmission on campus. | ||
| So that is the basis on which they continue to mandate these products. | ||
| Were the CDC guidance that tough that students basically couldn't attend? | ||
| I mean, when they came down with the CDC mandates, were they that tough or they gave them some room for their own discretion? | ||
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Well, I think that it's murky. | |
| I think that there was room for discretion. | ||
| Certainly, there are many, many colleges that don't mandate. | ||
| You have to look at these colleges being of a mindset similar to the narrative. | ||
| So that is definitely steeped in those universities. | ||
| They also receive tremendous amounts of money from the federal government, including the NIH, the CDC, the Department of Health and Human Services, Department of Defense. | ||
| I mean, the Ivy Leagues alone, eight colleges. | ||
| They get about $3.8 billion a year in federal funds. | ||
| So when the CDC makes recommendations that people should be boosted, they're going to just wrap that into their recommendations. | ||
| And I think that's what's happened. | ||
| And there hasn't been a lot of curiosity to look beyond those recommendations. | ||
| And these colleges have clearly not done their own risk-benefit analysis, and nor have they engaged with us when we've asked them to discuss that data, which is why we've changed tactics with our new initiative. | ||
| Have you, I take it if you sue, or obviously this is going to have to go to court, I assume, that in discovery, if you were to find that they either made the money contingent upon or there was some quid pro quo, you guys got to follow along here, that would be pretty damning, would it not? | ||
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Well, it's really hard to say what it would happen in a court of law on that. | |
| I think that I have not been able to find that there was a quid pro quo per se, except that in the third batch of the CARES funding, there is a new provision in there that says that you need to do certain mitigation efforts that are data based or evidence based. | ||
| But it doesn't come right out and say that you must mandate vaccination. | ||
| So I don't really see it as a direct influence. | ||
| I see it more as a couple of things. | ||
| I think it's a lack of curiosity on the part of the administrators. | ||
| I think a willingness to take CDC guidance on its face. | ||
| And also, you know, you're not going to bite the hand that pays your light bill. | ||
| I mean, I'll tell you that one of the heads of the COVID task force, a scientific part of that team at one of the Ivy League schools, his lab gets $600,000 to $900,000 a year from the NEH for funding. | ||
| So it's very institutionally captured. | ||
| And when we've tried to engage, again, these colleges on the real data on the risk benefit, So we were inspired by the work that you and Naomi Wolf are doing on the Pfizer documents and also Ed Dowd's fraud thesis to present to these universities some new data to say, look, this information is now available and we're putting you on notice. | ||
| This is why I want to give a shout out to everybody in the boardroom, Apasi and the Cadre and the Vanguard, all of you folks that have volunteered to work on this Pfizer that crowdsourced all the pick and shovel work, the 250 lorries. | ||
| I had nothing to do with it. | ||
| All we did was provide a platform, which we're supposed to. | ||
| I couldn't be prouder of the work and the quality, and you're seeing the fruits of that across the board. | ||
| We're going to start showing you a lot of things that's coming off of that, including what Joni's working on. | ||
| Joni, do you have a website or social media that people can go and find out, and maybe support you, or find out more? | ||
| You may be surprised, people may have a couple, three other colleges they want to toss to you, or other people that have been banned for this ridiculous reason. | ||
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Sure. | |
| We're at NoCollegeMandates.com and at that website you can find out how to join our chat group, where we are on social media, and what our initiatives are. | ||
| You can find me on Twitter at LadySpalding11.com. | ||
| And let me just say one more thing about this initiative. | ||
| The letter prompting, the letter alerting the colleges that fraud may have been committed and wrapping in some of the points that your posse and The insurance industry is raising on excess mortality in young people along with the Pfizer whistleblower. | ||
| That letter has been sent certified mail to the presidents of 12 elite schools in the last week and we have dozens of stakeholders working on letter campaigns to more schools and we also copy all the boards of trustees. | ||
| So we're planting a lot of seeds and we're hoping this will move the needle. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| I want to get that letter. | ||
| We're going to put it in all the different chat rooms and up on Getter and everywhere. | ||
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Great. | |
| Joni, fight on. | ||
| We're here for you. | ||
| Look forward to having you back with updates. | ||
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Thank you so much, Steve, for having me. | |
| Yes, ma'am. | ||
| People are fighting. | ||
| I'm telling you, they're all over the country. | ||
| We've got so many victories we could talk about. | ||
| Remember, victory begets victory. | ||
| Let me have Michelle Bachman, Dean Bachman, joins us. | ||
| James Rogowsky, I think it's going to be the six o'clock hour. | ||
| We're trying to track down Dr. Bregan. | ||
| So Rogowsky, I think, confirms at least what we know. | ||
| Tell us what we know so far about the World Health Association, World Health Organization, and these amendments for the international health regulations, Dean Bachman. | ||
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Well, as a close of business today, it's looking pretty good, better than what we thought. | |
| There was a brand new proposal today that was offered, and that proposal was posted for the first time. | ||
| No one ever saw it before, but that is the proposal that was adopted. | ||
| It's not the original amendment that the Biden administration offered at the World Health Association. | ||
| It's a brand new proposal that no one had ever seen, but it doesn't On its face appear to cause too much damage. | ||
| It creates a working group that will meet this coming November 2022. | ||
| And it looks like they're going to hammer out what they're going to do to strengthen the arms of the World Health Organization. | ||
| So it just may be it doesn't even look like they reduced the time for adoption, which that was one thing they were trying to do. | ||
| So it looks like everything is status quo. | ||
| Again, as a close of business today, they're still in session tomorrow. | ||
| But it looks like this is probably what they're going to do. | ||
| But again, I mean, it's take a bow for you, because if in fact this is what it is, it means that they have kicked the can down the road. | ||
| They'll cause trouble in November, try and come up with something, and then they'll have to offer it again, either in a special session or they'll wait until a year from now to offer it to strengthen the WHO. | ||
| In the meantime, Senator Rick Scott has already introduced legislation to say no matter what the WHO does, it has to come through the United States Congress for approval first. | ||
| So I think the fact that your posse got up on their haunches and they melted the phone lines in DC, it did get attention. | ||
| So, you know, these people aren't going to give up. | ||
| These people who want to strengthen the World Health Organization, But this appears to be good news. | ||
| No one's really had time to fully digest it, but I was on a call today with a bunch of people who are researching, watching. | ||
| I've been watching the events today, and everybody feels pretty good about what's happening. | ||
| But again, it's close of business today. | ||
| Until they gavel down and they're done tomorrow, it's going to be tough to be able to sleep and breathe. | ||
| Well, also the working group, we gotta get on top of that. | ||
| Here's what we do know, and this has nothing to do, I mean, we just, as well as the provider platform, Rogowski came on early, Congressman Bachman got in, Michelle Bachman got on it, and I'm telling you, she was here that, when she gets on something, it's like a dog with a bone, right? | ||
| It's not, you're not, she's relentless. | ||
| We had Frank Gaffney, we had some, Peter Bragan, it was a team effort. | ||
| But at least now, and then you get Rick Scott, Rand Paul, people started to pile on here as they saw it. | ||
| And remember, Congressman Bachman, I put you in touch with some people that actually are quasi on our side of the football and they go, oh, no, nothing to see here. | ||
| This is we kind of. | ||
| And you said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| The way they can interpret this, this can take our sovereignty. | ||
| We're going to fight this. | ||
| And for the lesson for the audience out there, we went from a standing start six weeks ago to it looks like at least interim We may have won this battle, and they've kicked it. | ||
| Now, this working group, I'm sure, what Bachman's telling you is that they're working behind the scenes non-stop, right? | ||
| They want those regulations. | ||
| They want, and the Biden administration wants to give our sovereignty to them. | ||
| That's, we're going to have to get a little more organized and a little more focused on this, but at least initially, we rode to the sound of the guns, Congressman, and at least for right now, subject to getting through tomorrow, it looks like we've got maybe good news. | ||
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We've got maybe good news, and I think, again, I just want to thank you all, and I thank your audience. | |
| We keep praying, we keep working, and we keep watching them. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| But if this is a working group in November, we can deal with that. | ||
| And you called for the first day you were in here, you called for a general strike, and we didn't need to get to that, but enough Republicans elected officials. | ||
| Ron DeSantis stood up right away and said, we're not doing this in the state of Florida when I'm governor. | ||
| Then Rick Scott came forward, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio. | ||
| It's pretty impressive how people fell in line. | ||
| We've got a lot more work to do. | ||
| We're going to get Dr. Bregman and everything, but Congressman Bogman, I know you're traveling around today, and really thank you for taking the time and jumping on here. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| God bless you. | ||
| God bless your audience. | ||
| Make this a campaign issue for the fall and make McCarthy and McConnell go on record that they're going to support Scott's legislation. | ||
| Congressman Dean Bachman, thank you very much. | ||
| Regent University. | ||
| She's a fighter. | ||
| That right there is a fighter. | ||
| Okay, so it looks like we won't know until tomorrow, but these amendments got pulled. | ||
| Rogowski is pretty... James Rogowski is pretty stoked up. | ||
| He's going to join us in the 6 o'clock hour. | ||
| And I want to tell everybody, this is 100% yours. | ||
| This is the power of the show. | ||
| This is why we do the show. | ||
| We got on top of this. | ||
| We had to check it out and vet it. | ||
| It sounded almost too fantastical. | ||
| Of course, everybody immediately mocked, you know, these are conspiracy theories. | ||
| The Washington Post came out and you got, you got abandoning the crazy people at the war room and they got Bachman and she's nuts. | ||
| You have all these people and you got these Rogowski had all these lunatics on here and there's nothing to see here. | ||
| Not a big deal. | ||
| Then Tucker had it. | ||
| And then we go to the next level and we just keep grinding. | ||
| You people kept calling. | ||
| You went to all the sites. | ||
| Give emails, send the letters, do all of it, and it looks like you got their attention. | ||
| And the Washington Post came out and said, there's nothing there. | ||
| We said, hey, there's nothing there, just don't do it. | ||
| So anticipate that the media is going to go crazy, that we stopped world health, we stopped, you know, having a more healthy planet. | ||
| Well, hey, we ain't ceding one iota of American sovereignty To something run by the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Tomorrow we're going to talk about actually this kind of movement, you know, everywhere from the Shanghai and these lockdowns to these movements they're doing internally, these massive conference calls, video conferences. | ||
| Something's going on in China. | ||
| And I say that as someone who has been fully sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party as being their enemy. | ||
| And we have studied this. | ||
| We've got experts on tomorrow. | ||
| And if you think in this situation, the Biden administration in the dark of night was going to shift The sovereignty of this country to Geneva and the World Health Organization. | ||
| I kid you not, that's not going to happen. | ||
| At least not right now if we keep fighting. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
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We're talking convoys when we get back with my favorite filmmaker John Sparopoulos next in the war room We're taking down the CCP Spread the word all through Hong Kong We will fight till they're all gone We rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the CCP The American spirit. | |
| Preserving life, liberty, and pursuing happiness. | ||
| Caring for the nation we call home. | ||
| And its people. | ||
| As patriots, it's our duty to drive the entrepreneurial spirit. | ||
| Pushing hard, reaching for success. | ||
| Sharing patriotism. | ||
| Because the American way of life is for all to live. | ||
| The flagship where freedom reigns. | ||
| USA! USA! | ||
| Ash Fork, Arizona. | ||
| Yukon, Oklahoma. | ||
| USA! | ||
| Putnamville, Indiana. | ||
| This burst of patriotism occurred on interstate overpasses from coast to coast. | ||
| Oh It's a little bit of a stretch. | ||
| It was triggered by multiple trucker convoys on their way to Washington, D.C. | ||
| to protest mask and vaccine mandates. | ||
| These people and the truckers alike have had enough. | ||
| After two years of being dictated to by bureaucrats, two years of being told what they can and cannot do, two years of freedom-suffocating government edicts, they let loose, demanding freedom in a breathtaking display of patriotism. | ||
| What do you think about this? | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| This is America. | ||
| This is our people fighting for our freedoms. | ||
| I feel like America is waking up. | ||
| They're really starting to understand the tyranny that's happened. | ||
| They've been chipping away at our constitutional rights or their agenda for far too long. | ||
| We do not believe that there's an emergency. | ||
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It is time to end the state of emergency, end the mask and vaccine mandates. | |
| America's patrons, choking on their emotions, were overjoyed that somebody, somebody was finally doing something to restore their freedoms. | ||
| It just means so much. | ||
| There's people fighting. | ||
| It's emotional. | ||
| It almost makes me cry. | ||
| And it makes me feel good to hear all these truckers and these people honking with us. | ||
| It brought me to tears. | ||
| I was surprised. | ||
| The emotion that was with us today. | ||
| It's touching. | ||
| It touches the hearts of America. | ||
| And it needs to. | ||
| What are you here for today? | ||
| Because my children deserve the same freedom that I grew up in. | ||
| Okay, John Sparopoulos, an amazing filmmaker, came all the way across the country with The Convoy. | ||
| John Sparopoulos, tell me, we're so proud at War Room and Real America's Voice to be part of this, to help you launch this fantastic film. | ||
| Tell us when it's going to show. | ||
| How can people get access to it? | ||
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It's premiering on Real America's Voice, 12 noon, Eastern Time, on Monday, Memorial Day. | |
| I have seen these clips 30 times. | ||
| And I just watched it again and I got goosebumps. | ||
| I'm going to take people on this trip across the country where they're going to feel the emotion that I felt going those 2,500 miles with those people. | ||
| I stumbled on this story, Steve. | ||
| You know, I thought I was doing a story about the truckers. | ||
| And, you know, we'd be in the middle of the pack and we'd zoom ahead several miles and get onto a bridge and so people Cheering, etc. | ||
| And then I started asking questions. | ||
| It's the usual stuff. | ||
| Why do you hear? | ||
| What do you think about all this? | ||
| And by accident, I just asked, what's in your heart right now? | ||
| And people froze. | ||
| They started crying. | ||
| They started tearing up. | ||
| They got choking on their emotions. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| And that experience happened every mile, every time we stopped at an overpass, because that turned out for me to be the story, this revival, this Yearning to have their freedom back. | ||
| And so many people, it looked to me as if they saw the truckers as the cavalry coming to save them, coming to do something, finally. | ||
| And I'll tell you, never in my 50 years of doing interviews have I encountered these many people choking up during an interview. | ||
| And one other thing, I have never in all of my years put together heard people talking about God and bringing God back to America. | ||
| than I did on this trip. Many people would say, you know, we have to get God back in our country, God back in our school. You know, they saw those truckers as God's army rising up. It was amazing. | ||
| This is the first film that really gives MAGA a voice. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| Just at the moment when I think a lot of people had said, you know, maybe it's too much, maybe it's over, this convoy, but particularly the response to the convoy. | ||
| That's what John Sparopoulos is the documentary filmmaker about that. | ||
| John, it's a very powerful film. | ||
| I couldn't be more pleased that it comes at the end of our We're going to have our Memorial Day special, what we do every Memorial Day, with Patrick K. O'Donnell, Captain Bannon, from 10 to noon, right after that. | ||
| And you're not going to want to miss this. | ||
| Arlington National Cemetery, the Trinity Unknown. | ||
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Thanks for the support on that road trip. | |
| You and your audience, they were amazing. | ||
| I'm so happy that you got Real America's Voice to run this program. | ||
| And I know you've got another one coming on Monday. | ||
| And I can't wait to see the one about the cemeteries, because I'm named after a guy who's buried at the Apollo American Cemetery in Eastern France. | ||
| Died December 9, 1944. | ||
| I've been there. | ||
| It's something for somebody to see. | ||
| If you ever leave the country, go to someplace like that. | ||
| And I went to all of them around Normandy, too. | ||
| It's just an amazing scene. | ||
| That's what Monday is, and then John Sparopoulos' film. | ||
| John, thank you very much. | ||
| We're going to push this out all weekend. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| We're going to continue at 6 o'clock. | ||
| We're going to pick up President Trump's speech at NRA right now with Real America's Voice. | ||
| We're going to transition over. | ||
| We'll see you at 6. | ||
| Also, tomorrow morning, back on Real America's Voice. | ||
| This is a special. | ||
| You're not going to want to miss. | ||
| The coming war over Taiwan, the naval war, all of it, it'll shock you, the experts we have on. | ||
| I want to thank you very much. | ||
| We're going to flip back now to Real America's Voice. | ||
| I think we're going to go live to President Trump's speech in Houston at the NRA. | ||
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Jayla Nicole Silguro. | |
| Jace Lovarnos. | ||
| Jose Flores. | ||
| Leila Salazar. | ||
| McKenna Lee Elrod. | ||
| My tie. | ||
| Rodriguez. | ||
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