May 27, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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I don't know. | |
| I'm not taking care of you. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| He wants you to know, oh, What the hell are you doing? What the hell are you doing? | ||
| What the hell are you doing? | ||
| We're trying to work, y'all be quiet! | ||
| We're trying to work, y'all be quiet! | ||
| Some of the key details provided by Texas officials in the first 48 hours after the attack have turned out to be inaccurate. | ||
| Here is what has changed. | ||
| Texas officials first said the attacker exchanged gunfire with a school resource officer before entering the school. | ||
| Then later said the school resource officer engaged with the attacker, but did not exchange gunfire. | ||
| Well, yesterday officials now said, in fact, there was no school resource officer there at all, and that the killer walked into the school through an unlocked door, unobstructed, and began firing. | ||
| The amount of time the gunman spent outside before entering the school also has changed. | ||
| We initially were told after he shot his grandmother, he fled, crashed a truck outside of the school, And then ran inside. | ||
| Yesterday, officials said after crashing the truck, he got out, fired toward two witnesses who were at a funeral home across the street, then walked toward the school, climbed a fence to enter the parking lot of the school, and then began firing at the school building from the outside. | ||
| Officials say 12 minutes passed from the time he crashed to when he entered the school. | ||
| He was outside that school for 12 minutes. | ||
| Also now a discrepancy about where the victims were found. | ||
| It initially was reported that the gunman spent an entire hour inside a single classroom and that all of the victims killed were inside that one classroom. | ||
| NBC News now has learned from Texas officials the victims were found in four classrooms. | ||
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When they breached that door Yeah. | |
| They got injured as well. | ||
| Hey Lawrence, a couple of things. | ||
| The community members, I understand their questions, but I think it's fair. | ||
| But again, the double thinking of that moment, I don't think it's fair at all. | ||
| Well, the thing is, if the attack unit is there early, they do go in right away. | ||
| They do get the keys rather than blow open the door. | ||
| Because it is fortified, as you brought up yesterday, and it is harder to get through, as you mentioned, Pete. | ||
| They didn't have the training to get through. | ||
| And the one thing to keep in mind, although the shooting stopped, and that's a fine answer, the kids were bleeding. | ||
| So the sooner you get in there, who knows what an EMT could have been able to do had they got in there quicker. | ||
| And they're not trained, essentially, to handle this. | ||
| And there's no excuse to leave that back door open. | ||
| And there's no excuse to come out with some fable that they were engaged by a resource officer that was armed, when that is flat-out fiction. | ||
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That is, that's not bad communication. | |
| That is a lie. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that's right. | ||
| And the sheriff was already on the way. | ||
| I think even before the call was even made as people were kind of trying to figure out what's going on. | ||
| So late last night, you know, I find and this is still going to kind of the investigation is still ongoing. | ||
| But to your point, as far as like, how did the shooter get in? | ||
| You know, what what are the details? | ||
| How do we prevent this from happening again? | ||
| Well, I found out late late last night that, you know, this the shooter was arrested years ago, four years ago. | ||
| For having for having this plan for basically saying for saying, you know when I'm a senior in 2022, I am going to shoot up a school and this was four years ago. | ||
| They apprehended. | ||
| So some something fell out between the cracks between then and now that to allow this to happen. | ||
| We need to we need to shake out all the facts. | ||
| We need to figure out what happened, where the holes, and we need to make sure it doesn't happen again. | ||
| But if law enforcement, you know, identified him four years ago as a threat, we need to figure out why he wasn't, you know, how he got removed from that. | ||
| But don't current best practices, Lieutenant, call for officers to disable a shooter as quickly as possible, regardless of how many officers are actually on site? | ||
| Correct. | ||
| The active shooter situation, you want to stop the killing, you want to preserve life. | ||
| But also, one thing that, of course, the American people need to understand is that officers are making entry into this building. | ||
| They do not know where the gunman is. | ||
| They are hearing gunshots. | ||
| They are receiving gunshots. | ||
| At that point, If they if they proceeded any further, not knowing where this suspect was at, they could have been shot. | ||
| They could have been killed. | ||
| And at that point, that gunman would have opportunity to kill other people inside that school. | ||
| So they were able to contain that gunman inside that classroom so that he was not able to go to any other portions of the school to commit any other killings. | ||
| Okay, I think in the continuing on, that guy actually said one of the reasons they were concerned was about getting shot themselves. | ||
| Anyway, masterful job there by the production team. | ||
| A young Master Cameron here in the nation's capital, and of course the team of Real America's Voice in Denver. | ||
| We've got a lot to get to. | ||
| Bernie Karasman joins us in the second hour. | ||
| He's getting more information about all this. | ||
| As you know, these are not the type of stories we normally chase, but there's something so fundamentally wrong here. | ||
| And one of the things I want to say is that I think it was State Representative Gonzales, who I think is from Ovaldi, was on Fox News. | ||
| That's a bombshell, if you can back it up. | ||
| That's been going around the internet for a couple of days and has not been verified. | ||
| You know, the old saying is too good to check, but he just dropped the bomb there on on about the the the Savage that did this actually was rolled up with another kid four years ago where they're talking about doing something in 2022. | ||
| That has not been verified. | ||
| I don't think by anybody in fact Fox John Roberts and others have come out there. | ||
| So we got a lot to get to. | ||
| And we're going to be at the border. | ||
| We're going to be doing economics. | ||
| New numbers out today. | ||
| Cortez is with us. | ||
| Charlie Kirk's with us. | ||
| We got Andy Biggs and Todd Bensman and Michael Young all down at the border. | ||
| We've also got a member of Oscar Blue. | ||
| His team, the Border Network News, is actually in Uvalde and is going to be with us in a second. | ||
| I want to go to Zurich, though, and Jack Pasovic. | ||
| Pasovic, you put up a timeline. | ||
| Pasovic did? | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| We're going to try to get Pasovic back in a moment. | ||
| Let's go to Ovalde and then Anthony Aguero from Border Network News. | ||
| He's actually there today. | ||
| He's one of the partners of Oscar Blue Ramirez, and you know, Oscar's deep in dangerous territory in southern Mexico. | ||
| He reported yesterday. | ||
| He's gonna be back on the show tonight. | ||
| Anthony, what do we know? | ||
| As soon as we get Posoba up, we'll go through the timeline, but give us, what are the authorities saying today? | ||
| Because here's the problem. | ||
| It's been so bad, and this is just not a PR problem. | ||
| They have put out so much false information. | ||
| It's just false information. | ||
| And senior people should have been on this before these mid-level people were doing it, that now you've got these internet rumors that the kid was rolled up four years ago, has not been verified by anything, coming up on Fox News by an elected official. | ||
| So Anthony, tell us what's going on down there. | ||
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So what we're learning this morning, Steve, is that some investigators are telling us that now some of the responding officers are under investigation. | |
| We are learning that it actually took the police department four minutes to arrive on the scene. | ||
| However, it took them an hour to wait for the Border Patrol Special Response Team to show up out here and come inside the building. | ||
| This young man started off the morning initially at his house and shot where he shot his grandma. | ||
| He then stole her truck. | ||
| And made his way over to the school. | ||
| Apparently he shot at other bystanders and then just walked in casually into the school. | ||
| Parents out here, unfortunately, very, very distraught situation. | ||
| There are videos obviously surfacing of some of these parents even being held down to the ground. | ||
| There was an instance of a woman being put in handcuffs, Steve, and later to be I'm sure many other parents probably would have done the same if they were presented with the opportunity to do so. | ||
| The response time was horrific in this instance. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| Anthony, just hang on for one second. | ||
| I'm going to bring Jack in a second, but just a couple things. | ||
| You're reporting that they're under investigation for what happened, but is that just part of getting a timeline? | ||
| Because when you say four minutes, they arrived in four minutes, it's very important to be precise here. | ||
| The truck went into the ditch at roughly 11.28, right? | ||
| There were calls to the police made at 11.30, at least the timeline. | ||
| Is it 4 minutes? | ||
| Were they on scene 4 minutes after 11.30? | ||
| So they were at 11.34? | ||
| That means he was still walking around. | ||
| He had climbed the fence and was walking around the yard. | ||
| Right now we have from 11.30 to essentially 11.42 or 11.44. | ||
| He's outside. | ||
| So that four minutes is based on... When did they... It was four minutes after they arrived at 11.30. | ||
| Is that what you're saying, 11.34? | ||
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I'm still waiting for clarification on that, Steve. | |
| However, they are claiming to me that it took them four minutes to arrive. | ||
| Anthony, here's what I'm saying. | ||
| This is, once again, when you talk to those guys, you've got to be precise. | ||
| Four minutes is four minutes when? | ||
| Was it four minutes from 1142? | ||
| So just when you see these guys again, if it's four minutes, it's four minutes from when? | ||
| From when the funeral home people called them? | ||
| When they heard from people, I think in the school, called at 1130? | ||
| You know, 12 minutes. | ||
| Just stay right there, Anthony. | ||
| Just hang right there. | ||
| Posobiec, this is the problem. | ||
| Abbott is now not going to go to the NRA. | ||
| He's going back up there. | ||
| You need some senior level people have got to be on the ground there. | ||
| This footage, you know, you talk about parental rights, how about this parental rights? | ||
| To save your child from some savage that's in there, right? | ||
| And what parent on earth, right, unless restrained by law enforcement authorities, are going to wait an hour and 20 minutes? | ||
| Because that's the time we got from 11.40 to 11.45 to still, you know, I heard it was one o'clock, now they're saying maybe 11, 12.55 or whatever. | ||
| Posobiec, what's the timeline you know to the best of your knowledge, sir? | ||
| We don't have Jack? | ||
| Is he still down there? | ||
| In terms of this. | ||
| Jack, can you start again? | ||
| Because we didn't hear you. | ||
| Just start from the top. | ||
| Right, sorry. | ||
| So what we've been able to cobble together as a preliminary timeline in terms of this seems to be that 11-28, that's when the truck crash happens. | ||
| He pops out and begins shooting at this funeral home at the employees who are outside in front around Then two minutes later, as that shooting is going on, that's the 1130, your first 911 call. | ||
| Then 1140 is when the shooter enters the school, so that's your 12 minutes right there. | ||
| From that point, 1144, the Uvalde police arrive, they go out, they go in, they take fire, they request backup. | ||
| 1154 is when this Facebook video starts, the hour-long video. | ||
| And then 12-44 is when the tactical team from Border Patrol actually goes in. | ||
| They go in, but he's killed, what, in the space of 5 minutes, 10 minutes? | ||
| Because at first they said it was 1-05, now they said it's 12-50. | ||
| Let's go back a little bit. | ||
| That seems to be a moving target. | ||
| Anthony, what Anthony has said is they're telling him now on the scene, oh, we got there in 4 minutes. | ||
| That 4 minutes is from where? | ||
| If it's 1144 minutes ago, how did the guy walk around a school before he got before he entered? | ||
| How did he walk around a school for 10 minutes after already shooting a high powered rifle at a couple of folks at a funeral home? | ||
| It's a town of 15,000 people. | ||
| This is not the New York metropolitan area. | ||
| This is not Los Angeles. | ||
| This is a town, a relatively compact, you know, community of 15,000 people with a nine man police force. | ||
| Well, and Steve, it's not just any town, this is Texas we're talking about. | ||
| This is the western part of Texas, not West Texas, but Western Texas. | ||
| And you've got four minutes, if you want to count four minutes off of my timeline, what I have is they arrived four minutes after he entered the school itself. | ||
| So, not four minutes, but however, this is almost 18 minutes after he crashed his truck and opened fire at that funeral home. | ||
| It's also the thing of, you see the footage, the footage has... | ||
| A lot of police officers with more than enough firepower in a three-man unit or two to a three-man unit. | ||
| I'm not talking service revolvers. | ||
| These guys have, these guys are up armored. | ||
| They're more than enough to go inside and what they're doing is restraining parents. | ||
| This is the thing that's got to get to the bottom of. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're gonna be back with Jack Posobiec, Anthony Aguero down in Ovaldez, Steve Cortez, Charlie Kirk, all of it next in the War Room. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
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The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | |
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| OK, you're in the war room. | ||
| We got a lot to get through and we're going to get through it all. | ||
| Let's go to back to Jack Posobiec somewhere near Zurich, Switzerland. | ||
| Jack, let's go back to this timeline and also the video. | ||
| I mean, look, from at least the video evidence of we see now, and they're supposed to have cameras inside the school, so I'm sure we see more. | ||
| It appears that there was more effort. | ||
| Put by the responding police officers for an hour, there's more effort by fully kitted out police. | ||
| Right? | ||
| They had the vests, they had the long guns. | ||
| Police to restrain the parents, including getting nasty, tasing guys, putting people in handcuffs, putting that person down on the ground. | ||
| That's not acceptable. | ||
| These parents, think about the agony of these parents knowing the kids are there. | ||
| What about the little children that bled out? | ||
| I don't know what Abbott and these guys are doing. | ||
| This is a big deal. | ||
| It's not a small deal. | ||
| We don't cover things that are... Think about all the stories that have been hot over the last year we never touched. | ||
| The reason we don't touch them is we don't really have an expertise. | ||
| It's not something we do and there are other guys out there that do it better. | ||
| This is something that's deep, and it's not about guns, okay? | ||
| That's all a total misdirection play. | ||
| There's two things that gotta get to the bottom here. | ||
| You got the mother saying today, the kid, you know, he's not really a monster. | ||
| The father's saying he's not a monster. | ||
| No, excuse me, he's a monster. | ||
| And you're responsible. | ||
| You're responsible. | ||
| The parents of the kid are just as responsible as the kid. | ||
| We gotta make that stick. | ||
| And I don't hear the head of bad relationship, hey, that sounds like a personal problem. | ||
| For the community, right? | ||
| You've got to be on top and in charge of your kids. | ||
| And the father just punched out, another father just punched out, he's somewhere, got another bunch of kids. | ||
| No. | ||
| We've got to make that stick. | ||
| Number one. | ||
| And number two is the response of this. | ||
| And what Bernie said in Buffalo, when the police officer there, the security guard, did the standards, shoot him in the critical, you know, boom. | ||
| In the body, not in the head. | ||
| Bernie's going to be on later to get more information. | ||
| Jack Posobiec, your thoughts and analysis of this as it continues to fester. | ||
| And they got to get some people in authority to step up to a microphone with a chart that's got a timeline in it. | ||
| And exactly, you know, Anthony's given us four minutes. | ||
| Hey, it's four minutes from when? | ||
| And Anthony's going to go do some work today to basically hammer people and say, hey, I want to see a timeline. | ||
| You say four minutes. | ||
| Was it four minutes from when they took the shots at the at the at the nursing home? | ||
| Or excuse me, the funeral home? | ||
| And I think, hey, you're telling me a woman gets shot virtually point blank in the face with a high powered rifle? | ||
| And nobody no neighbor called then it would have been 11 that would have been 11 24 25 And in a nine-man police thing in a town of 15 000 people. | ||
| It's a village Not even a town. | ||
| This is a village extended village And from there from there, it's for it's 20 minutes 20 minutes To when he crashes that car it's 20 minutes until he gets into the school and he's shooting out in the school supposedly 20 minutes until he gets to the school and nobody's still there? | ||
| Are the school not alerted? | ||
| And we're seeing that, you know, they had a guy on TV the other day. | ||
| He's on the City Council, I think, the Town Council. | ||
| He said on TV, we'll pull it for later, he said on TV, I got a text message at 11.36, that's his words, 11.36, telling me there was a problem at the school. | ||
| 11.36. | ||
| He's just the Town Council guy, he drove over there. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| He was there in two minutes. | ||
| Got there before 11.40. | ||
| Jack Posobiec. | ||
| Look, Steve, you know, when we go through this, and I remember the very first time I was on, you know, I'm over here in Europe trying to figure out what's happened at Davos, the World Economic Forum, World Health Organization, but the main thing I said, day number one, is what we need is the timeline. | ||
| The timeline is the key that picks the lock on this. | ||
| So we can understand, to the American people, the people of that town, the families that are being torn apart by this thing, can understand what went wrong and how it went wrong. | ||
| And this is something that, and I saw a headline from the Washington Examiner that said the Biden administration isn't going to be opening an investigation into this, which is strange to me because you've got Vortac down there, you've got Border Patrol, we're hearing that federal marshals were handcuffing people. | ||
| So you've got a ton of federal involvement You've brought up an interesting point on the timeline. | ||
| There's a U.S. | ||
| Marshals, federal marshals, that federal marshals handcuffs the woman. | ||
| Now we haven't seen, if a federal marshal, I thought on scene commander, doesn't he naturally take over, you got a bunch of local cops? | ||
| And why are you waiting for the border patrol? You're a federal marshal. | ||
| And see, you're senior in the chain of command, right? | ||
| Well, and this is what I'm getting at, because you've got a situation here where you've got a tactical unit, you've got local units, you've got so many units all over the place. | ||
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The question is, who took command of that situation? | |
| But, but, but, but, ho, ho, ho, we spend, we spend, we have a discretionary budget of 1.5 trillion dollars, okay? | ||
| Discretionary, after you pay all the transfer payments. | ||
| There's tactical, they've gone through these exercises before. | ||
| There's a chain of command that comes in there. | ||
| Now, if they didn't use it, or people didn't panic, or the officers got a thing, that's fine. | ||
| But when guys show up, it's like in the military. | ||
| You've got to order a battle, it's called. | ||
| Order a battle. | ||
| So you've got a federal marshal there. | ||
| This is my point. | ||
| Hey, we're like two guys over beers at the bar saying, and that's the problem. | ||
| We're 72 hours out of this, and something stinks to high heaven. | ||
| If they had a set of facts that backed up their story, we would have these facts be inundated by these facts. | ||
| And you'd be inundated with press conferences. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| What's happening is, the reason they're not giving us the full story is because they're still getting their story straight. | ||
| And they know that they've got a federal side of this, and they've got a domestic side of this. | ||
| And so it's going to come down to they know the blame is going to fall on somebody and they're trying to find who that could be. | ||
| So the feds are going to try to blame it on the locals. | ||
| The locals are going to try to blame it on the feds. | ||
| And unfortunately, it's the locals who are in those videos. | ||
| And that's why it is incumbent upon Governor Greg Abbott to call a full investigation into the police response to this completely. | ||
| It needs to be open. | ||
| I want to see hearings. | ||
| I don't want to just have, you know, people randomly calling in, you know, to the war room. | ||
| We need a full government investigation of this. | ||
| I agree with that, but that's going to take a while, because they're all going to lawyer up. | ||
| That's going to take a while. | ||
| That's called a process. | ||
| We need, like, today, somebody stand up with a whiteboard or somebody stand up with just what you have on your Twitter feed. | ||
| Just give me, I tell people, this is why in here we try to talk about statics and dynamics of process and process. | ||
| Once you put things on a timeline, two of the great things in the world, timelines and maps. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Give me a timeline and a map you can understand. | ||
| You can start to understand the world. | ||
| We just today from senior Texas officials, we need a timeline with just the basics. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But we need to know when people were called, when people notified. | ||
| There's gaps here. | ||
| What I haven't heard. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| What I haven't heard you mention yet either is where's the where's the radio? | ||
| Where's the radio on this? | ||
| Do we have the full audio of the 911 calls, which obviously are time-stamped in the system? | ||
| Where's the radio calls that were going out on the police scanner? | ||
| I'm seeing something on the internet that's saying that the police scanner might have been erased, or that they can't find it now all of a sudden. | ||
| Look, I know that stuff goes out live. | ||
| Somebody's got it, and we're gonna find it. | ||
| The other thing, and I want to thank the War Room Engine Room because I had my notes. | ||
| Engine Room, North Carolina Division, thank you. | ||
| The stand-down order. | ||
| I keep hearing there's a stand-down order. | ||
| Who gave a stand-down? | ||
| This is my point about federal officers. | ||
| Who's in the chain of command? | ||
| Who gave the stand-down? | ||
| Was there a stand-down order? | ||
| May not be. | ||
| It may be like the confrontation thing. | ||
| Who gave the stand-down order? | ||
| Who was in charge? | ||
| Or if there wasn't a stand-down order? | ||
| And if it wasn't a stand-down order, why did the officers just sit there and focused on the parents? | ||
| Hey, let me throw out a new thing for the Parents' Rights Movement. | ||
| The right to go in and save your child when being butchered by a savage. | ||
| And not have some cop outside putting you in handcuffs, or throwing you to the ground, or tasing you. | ||
| You want to talk about PTSD and psychological damage? | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| The parents are going to sit there, and the children either were killed after the cops got there, the police got there, or they bled out. | ||
| Tell me how, tell me, who in this audience would ever get over that? | ||
| Who? | ||
| I'll tell you who. | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| It's not get overable. | ||
| That's why this thing is a problem. | ||
| And it looks like bureaucracy and what's on the part of the managed decline of this country is not initiative in taking action. | ||
| The Border Patrol guy got up there. | ||
| He's the guy that took action. | ||
| The guy that's got the wound in the scalp, it looks like. | ||
| At least from what the information we had. | ||
| He went in and got the door and took the guy out. | ||
| And it looked like he took an incoming also. | ||
| The Border Patrol Tactical Unit associated the guy's action an hour and 15 minutes or over an hour and 15 minutes after the kid was in the ditch. | ||
| This is not acceptable. | ||
| Unacceptable. | ||
| In the United States of America. | ||
| And folks in Texas, and I love Texas. | ||
| I get so many friends down there, and they're all hardcore. | ||
| Texas has got to step up here. | ||
| Texas ought to be demanding answers today. | ||
| And no more happy talk. | ||
| Don't put another guy in a cowboy hat that doesn't know what he's talking about. | ||
| And please don't say circle back to you. | ||
| Right? | ||
| This is not funny. | ||
| Don't say a circle back to you. | ||
| I don't want to hear that. | ||
| It's absurd. | ||
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That guy should be pulled immediately. | |
| We've also got the state rep. | ||
| Look, the state rep, Tony Gonzalez, he went on Fox this morning and he said that there was an arrest of this kid four years ago at 14 years old for threatening to shoot up a school. | ||
| So we need to get to Tony Gonzalez. | ||
| We need to find the documentation on that. | ||
| Was this something potentially? | ||
| Now, here's the thing, too. | ||
| If this happened, and just to play it out, devil's advocate, if this happened when he was 14, that means that it would be potentially sealed as a minor record so that when he goes to buy guns you'd think that that would be something that would pop though but there's there's clearly clearly a breakdown in the system here. | ||
| Anthony Aguero, we're going to let you go. | ||
| We've talked to you offline and got some assignments. | ||
| You're going to go hit it at the Border Network News. | ||
| He's going to go ask some tough questions today, and we're going to get back to him in the second hour or later in the afternoon show. | ||
| We're all over this today. | ||
| Jack, real quickly, how do people follow you today, Jack? | ||
| Got about 30 seconds. | ||
| Yeah, it's just Human Events Daily. | ||
| We break down all of this, the new timeline, and of course, go to tposa.com. | ||
| You can get the book, The Conservative Response, to The Great Reset, and you'll see our documentary from the WF and WHO very soon. | ||
| In fact, we got Charlie Kirk coming up next, through the good offices of Jack Vesovic. | ||
| Thanks, Jack. | ||
| Go back to work. | ||
| Be back in a moment. | ||
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at Charlie Kirk Steve Cortez. | |
| I have no words to say. | ||
| I don't know what he was thinking. | ||
| He had his reasons for doing what he did. | ||
| And please don't judge him. | ||
| I only want the innocent children who died to forgive me. | ||
| What do you tell their families? | ||
| Forgive me. | ||
| Forgive my son. | ||
| I know he had his reasons. | ||
| What reasons could he have had? | ||
| To get closer to those children, instead of paying attention to the other bad things, I have no words. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Okay, that's the mom. | ||
| He had his reasons. | ||
| Hey, how about this for a reason? | ||
| I know it sounds harsh, but it's the only way this thing's gonna get solved. | ||
| It's the parents' responsibility. | ||
| They should be tried and charged exactly like these kids are. | ||
| You got these kids that are killing Matt Walsh later through, what happens? | ||
| They get disassociated, they play the video games, and you're not supervised. | ||
| You have a responsibility to supervise your children. | ||
| Took out, what, 19 little kids. | ||
| And she's sitting there babbling, he had his reason. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not good enough. | ||
| All this conversation about the guns is not relevant, okay? | ||
| And we're not going to go there. | ||
| And Mitch McConnell and all these guys are going to bend their knee once again. | ||
| This is just like the BLM thing. | ||
| Just once again, they're going to bend the knee and not get to the heart of the problem. | ||
| We have two problems here. | ||
| One is this thing of parental rights and parental responsibilities. | ||
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You got rights, you got responsibilities too. | |
| And the big responsibility is that these monsters are yours. | ||
| If you made the parents responsible and they were going to be charged, right, with second-degree murder, 34 years, trust me, they'd be in the room and get the kid off the internet. | ||
| They'd get the kid off the porn. | ||
| They'd get the kid off the video games. | ||
| They'd be buying video games. | ||
| If you knew you were going to be charged, you thought you got a problem with a kid. | ||
| You can't, you can't do this. | ||
| I have no empathy whatsoever with these parents. | ||
| None. | ||
| The Columbine parents, the worst were the ones at the school in Connecticut. | ||
| The father just punched out, left it to the mom. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And they always go over, they shot the grandmother, they shot the mom in Connecticut, they shot the grandmother in the face. | ||
| They leave it to the moms to try to get it done. | ||
| Can't. | ||
| Matt Walsh laid it out. | ||
| It's a tough conversation. | ||
| I didn't say it was going to be pleasant. | ||
| Hey, this is a problem. | ||
| It's got to be solved. | ||
| We can't just look the other way. | ||
| It's not about the guns. | ||
| I'm not a gun guy. | ||
| I can tell you it's not about the guns at all. | ||
| We've got a deeper problem. | ||
| And the law enforcement, the bureaucracy, they're hiding something. | ||
| They're hiding something. | ||
| You're spending two trillion dollars a year and you've got all this and nobody's going to take any action. | ||
| Nobody's going to take any initiative. | ||
| That's not the Texas of legend. | ||
| That's not the Texas that helped make this country. | ||
| That's not the Texas that helped make this country free. | ||
| Look at those parents. | ||
| Parents were fired up. | ||
| So everybody about Georgia, okay. | ||
| I'm gonna get, we got some guys coming on at 6 o'clock tonight. | ||
| We're gonna try to drill down deeper on Georgia. | ||
| Something not right in Georgia either. | ||
| Hate to say it, just not right. | ||
| That not, not, not right. | ||
| We got a pretty good feel for things and just not right. | ||
| Something's up there. | ||
| Not saying it's a victory. | ||
| But there's something not right with the count. | ||
| Okay, is Charlie Kirk up? | ||
| Okay, we're having a trouble with Charlie. | ||
| Let's go to Cortez. | ||
| Cortez, you're on here to do, it's not a bad set of news on economics in China and all that, but I gotta have you, your assessment, and you've got an update on the Fox situation, who actually said that in Fox's kind of response. | ||
| So that statement came from U.S. | ||
| Representative Tony Gonzalez. | ||
| It gets confusing because there's also Tony Gonzalez, representative from Ohio, who thankfully is leaving Congress, but there is still a representative from Texas. | ||
| He's the one who made that statement. | ||
| About this murderer, this shooter being previously arrested. | ||
| According to Bill Malugan, who's a very good reporter, I think, with Fox News, he posted this right about as you went to air. | ||
| He says that is incorrect. | ||
| According to his law enforcement sources in Texas. | ||
| This is a quote from Bill Malugan. | ||
| He says there are two juveniles. | ||
| There were two juveniles arrested on conspiracy charges for a shooting plot several years back, but the Uvalde shooter was not involved in that incident and has never been arrested according for that for that so. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Ho, ho, ho, ho. | ||
| Stop right there. | ||
| This thing about the kid has been circling on the internet for a couple of days and they said two were arrested and then they dropped that name. | ||
| But that's almost as damning. | ||
| If they had a plot to take this school down by two kids a couple of years ago, they should have a plan that is... | ||
| Nah, come on, man. | ||
| You should have a plan that's deadlocked down and not even... And by the way, when you see a kid like this drifting, the school, the parents, the high school, everybody, you've got already two kids that were arrested. | ||
| If that's what Malugian's saying, and just remember, the internet meme that was going around, the internet thing, had about the arrest, and then it had another thing at the bottom that said, oh, and one of the guy's names is this kid. | ||
| And so that was the hook, and to me it was, you know, you can't, you gotta verify that. | ||
| If Malugan actually had guys tell him that, that's almost as damning. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| How did the kid then spend 12 minutes? | ||
| This is outrageous. | ||
| outrageous parents it's an important point and here's the thing Steve we have way more questions than answers right you know to your point and we need answers desperately particularly the parents and the grieving people in that community but all of America needs answers right now and getting back to your point about guns Steve and Mitch McConnell I think if anything right the the massive serious structural questions that we have about this situation if anything it reinforces the need for an armed citizenry and for the second | ||
| amendment so the fact that Mitch McConnell right now is thinking about caving are you kidding me we cannot outsource our personal security We cannot outsource our family's security even to law enforcement. | ||
| As much as I love cops, I think the overwhelming majority of them are heroic, but this is proof positive that no parent in America can responsibly outsource the security of their children to anyone else, including the police. | ||
| We as free citizens are responsible for our own security and for the security of our families and fathers, I would argue, Most of all. | ||
| So if anything, this horrific tragedy only reinforces the need for a heavily armed citizenry and for the Second Amendment. | ||
| By the way, give me that again, because we're going to get blown up by Mediate and all these guys. | ||
| No, no, we don't care. | ||
| We don't care. | ||
| This is the key point. | ||
| And this is why Mitch McConnell, everybody that bends a knee now, Cornyn, these guys, you got to get rid of all of them. | ||
| They got to be thrown out of office. | ||
| This is disgusting. | ||
| Hit me that run. | ||
| That's what I said yesterday. | ||
| I said, this is going to reinforce the fact that people are going to... We got two tough problems here. | ||
| Very tough problems. | ||
| And it ain't the guns. | ||
| That's marginalia. | ||
| We got two tough... The first problem we got is these kids. | ||
| Matt Walsh had it. | ||
| It's all the same kid. | ||
| From Columbine to today, to El Volta, they're all the same kid. | ||
| With the same problems, the same issues, the same types of parents. | ||
| It's parental responsibility. | ||
| You've got a responsibility for it. | ||
| You've got a responsibility. | ||
| And you ought to be charged exactly like they are. | ||
| And hey, if they kill a bunch of people and they spend 50 years in jail, boom. | ||
| And if they plot it and it's a capital crime, hey, guess what? | ||
| You're an accessory. | ||
| You're an accessory. | ||
| Everybody's going to say, you can't say that. | ||
| Yeah, I can say it. | ||
| We're going to push it. | ||
| That's undersat. | ||
| And then the other part is what Cortez says. | ||
| It is unacceptable for federal authorities and state authorities, 72 hours afterwards, for the parents, but also for the country. | ||
| This is how conspiracy theories start. | ||
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| My phone all night long, I got people blowing me up with the wildest conspiracy theories you ever heard in the universe. | ||
| OK? | ||
| But in the absence of actual facts, and we don't need their opinions, just give us the timelines and start to put out the radio, but just give us a hard timeline that you can match it to what happened. | ||
| And then you can come up with the questions and the following questions. | ||
| Steve Cortez, I want you to give me that again about an armed citizenry, sir. | ||
| Well, and Steve, by the way, this is critical. | ||
| Let's say law enforcement, again, we have more questions than answers, you know, so I don't want to pass judgment entirely because there's still too many questions. | ||
| But let's say it looks like they really messed up, either through incompetence or cowardice or some combination. | ||
| They need to come clean about that. | ||
| They need to say there was a breakdown in the chain of command, that there were bad decisions made in the heat of the moment, in the panic of the moment. | ||
| They need to say that. | ||
| They need to communicate clearly with the people so they can preserve the credibility of law enforcement, because right now it is dang near zero. | ||
| But here's my point. | ||
| In a situation like this, this horrific tragedy, and the apparent inaction of law enforcement to seriously protect these children and the adult staff in that school. | ||
| It actually argues even more vociferously for the importance, the paramount importance, of the Second Amendment because no responsible citizen of this country can outsource their personal security. | ||
| It cannot be outsourced to anyone, even including law enforcement. | ||
| And in the case of parents, and I would argue particularly fathers, This is a critical foundational responsibility. | ||
| The defense of your liberty, the defense of your safety, and your family's safety. | ||
| This is why the Second Amendment exists. | ||
| So the fact that in the wake of this horrific tragedy, We have squished Republicans like Mitch McConnell who are interested in attacking the Second Amendment. | ||
| The exact opposite needs to be the response. | ||
| And I think you're right, Steve, will be the response. | ||
| Because a lot of folks out there who maybe aren't gun people are seeing that the guns haven't changed. | ||
| High-powered rifles have existed in this country for a couple of generations. | ||
| We've had ARs since the 1960s. | ||
| The guns didn't change. | ||
| Our society changed. | ||
| And in a sick society where danger walks the earth, The only responsible action for free citizens to take is to make sure that if necessary, God forbid, they are able to defend themselves and their families because law enforcement may not do it. | ||
| Um, the, the heart-rendering, and look, we haven't seen the things at the show, we've just seen the pictures, but, I mean, just seen the photos, which is obviously heart-rendering, but the heart-rendering thing is this footage of the parents. | ||
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| I mean, the parents pleading, and the moms, this is why the moms are at the forefront of this thing, the moms start going crazy. | ||
| I mean, the dads are pushing back, but the moms start going crazy, as they should, because of this Kafkaesque, they're being restrained by police officers There's more, there's more activity restraining the parents than there is focus on, I mean, what are these guys standing around, they're standing around restraining the parents and it looks like, no, you've got, you've got, it looks, I count, you've got four or five three-man teams. | ||
| Bernie's going to come on here, the standard procedure is to get a three-man team and get it in there. | ||
| And you've got, you've got literally five or six three-man teams right there restraining the parents. | ||
| It just beggars belief. | ||
| It beggars belief. | ||
| Cortez, what does this tell us, too? | ||
| What about this thing about the parents' responsibility? | ||
| I know it's a hard thing, and I've said it before, and I've gotten blown up by people saying it's not, but hey, this is, the mother's sitting there now, he had his reasons, no ma'am, he didn't have his, and maybe that's a translation, probably, he didn't, there's no reason. | ||
| There's no reason for this. | ||
| And the parents have got to be responsible. | ||
| The same thing in Buffalo, all the way back to Columbine. | ||
| This is all the same kid. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It's all the same kid. | ||
| Virginia Tech, Buffalo, Parkland, it's all the same kid. | ||
| Is it not, Steve Cortes? | ||
| No, there are unfortunately far too many commonalities among all of these school shooters. | ||
| Look, I think that the lockdowns didn't help. | ||
| We already had that problem pre-lockdown, to be sure. | ||
| I'm not saying it's only a consequence of the lockdowns, but I think the lockdowns did not help, putting particularly young boys and young men Uh, in their homes with little to do with an idleness, looking at screens, looking at a lot of really toxic entertainment, if we want to even call it that, a toxic cultural pollution, including a lot of porn, medicating them, massive overuse of psychiatric drugs. | ||
| But to me, Steve, more than anything, when you look at these shooters, the commonality that is most damning, I think there's a lot of commonalities, but the most damning one is the lack of a serious and involved father. | ||
| And I think that is, look, our society has had for decades now, A crisis of fatherlessness, and it's getting worse, not better. | ||
| So I think this is something culturally that we have to fix. | ||
| Now, those fixes take years and decades, and we will fix it. | ||
| But in the meantime, Steve, two things I think need to happen. | ||
| A lot more Americans need to take seriously their Second Amendment rights and need to arm themselves so they can protect themselves and their families. | ||
| And then secondly, and I think this is just imperative, we have to start guarding our schools. | ||
| The fact that we guard jewelry stores and banks and casinos In a serious, methodical way, with weapons, with single entries, with scanners, I mean, everything that is out there, every tool possible. | ||
| And we don't guard schools that way. | ||
| But they had a plan. | ||
| I've seen the plan. | ||
| They have a very detailed plan. | ||
| But they didn't execute it. | ||
| Well, that's incompetence. | ||
| And somebody's going to be held responsible, particularly if they rolled up two kids a couple of years ago that were going to do a mass shooting at the school, at the elementary school. | ||
| The other thing is commonality, and not just the disengaged fathers. | ||
| I don't think there's one. | ||
| If anybody can do it, please send it to us up on Getter. | ||
| I don't see any of these kids are church-going. | ||
| They're not religious. | ||
| There's no spirituality. | ||
| It's nihilism, and satanic, atheistic, self-loathing, and hatred. | ||
| Got a problem. | ||
| Got a problem. | ||
| This has not managed to decline. | ||
| This is how... Go back and read The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. | ||
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| It's here. | ||
| Cortez next. | ||
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| On inflation, the PCE gauge is just a tick off of 40-year highs. | ||
| And in all likelihood, inflation is going to get worse. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because of the situation in energy. | ||
| Let's look at natural gas prices under Joe Biden in a Chalk Talk brought to you by Getter. | ||
| Natural gas prices since Biden took office have more than tripled from $2.50 to almost $9. | ||
| Now, you might think of natural gas primarily in heating your home in the winter, and it does do that, but also about 40% of American electricity is generated from natural gas. | ||
| So that means as the temperatures heat up now into summer, Many Americans are going to face staggering home power bills. | ||
| According to Barclays, the average home electricity bill last year, $122 a month. | ||
| They project for this year, $172 per month. | ||
| $50 extra. | ||
| And for people who live in hot parts of the country, it's going to easily be double that. | ||
| These are the real-world consequences of the Biden-Pelosi-McConnell inflation explosion. | ||
| OK, we're going to get back more of the shooting when Bernie Kerik joins us in the next hour. | ||
| We're also going to go to the border with a bunch of folks. | ||
| Ben's been, I think, Jan and Andy Biggs all next. | ||
| I've got two of the brightest guys around, Cortez and Brett. | ||
| I want to go to you. | ||
| OK, so I'm missing it, Cortez, because the cheerleaders over at CNBC, the progressive left cheerleaders that cheered the Biden administration on for all of this. | ||
| There's definitely a day that says, man, this is good news. | ||
| It looks like inflation is peaking and we're going to go down. | ||
| First of all, am I wrong about their having the pom-poms out today? | ||
| And are they dead wrong? | ||
| That's exactly what they're doing. | ||
| Their commitment to narrative is, in a perverse sense, impressive, right? | ||
| Their commitment to narrative. | ||
| Let's actually put this in context because I think data and evidence are important. | ||
| So if we can go to chart number one, let's show the inflation news out today. | ||
| This is the PCE. | ||
| Core, which is the Fed's preferred gauge of inflation. | ||
| So you can see on the very, very right side of that. | ||
| Is there a tiny downtick and it is literally a downtick from 40-year highs. | ||
| Yes, fine. | ||
| But we the point is in context and that chart goes back five years and the yellow shading shows when Biden took over in context what we have. | ||
| is an absolute explosion of inflation. | ||
| And I would submit, as I mentioned in my Chalk Talk, that this very minor downtick off of 40-year highs is not going to last. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because those numbers are for April, and what we have going on right now in May, as we speak, Steve, is energy exploding to the upside. | ||
| Crude oil, $114 a barrel right now, and natural gas, which in some ways is just as important to the U.S. | ||
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| Hold on, hang on. | ||
| Krugman told me, Krugman's on MSNBC a month ago, saying Cortez and Bannon, you guys are all wrong, that the energy was peaking, he could already see it, he could already feel it, and that's why inflation was gonna start dropping rapidly. | ||
| Was the Nobel Prize, I don't have a Nobel Prize, and you don't have a Nobel Prize, you're a guy from the pits in Chicago, and I'm just some crazy Irishman, right? | ||
| Was Krugman right 30 days ago, and is the data show he's right today, sir? | ||
| No, he was dead wrong, and Steve, I've said this before, Price is truth, right? | ||
| When it comes to financial markets, price is truth. | ||
| This isn't narrative, this isn't sloganeering. | ||
| The price is the price. | ||
| And the prices of natural gas and the price of gasoline and crude oil, all of them are soaring. | ||
| And here's what makes it even worse, Steve, is that the United States is the Saudi Arabia of natural gas. | ||
| No country on earth is as blessed with natural gas as this country is. | ||
| The Almighty chose to put oceans of natural gas underneath our feet. | ||
| And natural gas was affordable and dependable the entirety of President Trump's term because he believed in full-spectrum energy dominance, domestic energy production. | ||
| With Joe Biden, what we had was a combination of two factors. | ||
| Number one, he declared war on American energy, on drilling, fracking, and the entire ESG agenda, which was inflicted upon energy companies, making it too onerous for them to engage in exploration and production here in the United States. | ||
| Number two, he and Pelosi and McConnell engaged in an absolutely exorbitant borrowing and spending spree that sent inflation for all goods, energy plus, absolutely soaring. | ||
| And so what we have right now going into summer, and I want the American people to realize this, because Memorial Day is the symbolic start of summer. | ||
| Temperatures are going to start heating up in this country. | ||
| And the home air conditioning bills this summer, particularly in the hot parts of the country, are going to be staggering. | ||
| And for middle-income people, Steve, it is just going to be absolutely budget-crushing, because the American people are out of runway when it comes to their spending power. | ||
| And we can show chart number two. | ||
| Let me prove this again with data, not with my opinion. | ||
| This is the U.S. | ||
| personal savings rate. | ||
| As you can see in that chart, it unfortunately goes demonstrably from the upper left to the lower right, meaning the savings rate of Americans crashing and has just reached the lowest level since 2008. | ||
| Now, 2008, those were not good times for the United States. | ||
| The collapse of Bear Stearns, the collapse of Lehman, we are at the lowest savings rate since then. | ||
| So the stimulus has been spent, and then some, okay? | ||
| In addition to that, Steve, the way most Americans, particularly middle and lower income ones, the way they dealt with the Biden inflation surge is they ran up their credit card debt. | ||
| It was the only way they could absorb the shock. | ||
| But that game is up as well now. | ||
| And banks and credit card companies are getting a lot more stringent about new allowances and extending credit to those consumers. | ||
| So what we see then, consequently, is a crash in the savings rate. | ||
| So the average American is being absolutely pinched, is in a financial and economic vice right now. | ||
| And it has been created. | ||
| This is the important part. | ||
| It's not Putin's fault. | ||
| It's not the business cycle. | ||
| This is an absolute created crisis because of Joe Biden with help from complicit Republicans. | ||
| Yeah, the collaborators. | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| I'm going to ask Cortez to stay over. | ||
| He's been very good with his time today. | ||
| Dave Brask, I'm going to join us. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break, a 90-second break. | ||
| I want to re-emphasize, which I think a lot of people don't understand. | ||
| That part of Pennsylvania and New York, so you have Mastroianni running in Pennsylvania. | ||
| You've got Rudy Giuliani, or Andrew Giuliani in New York. | ||
| You've got Pennsylvania and New York. | ||
| You've got that eastern part of southeast Ohio and West Virginia, parts of West Virginia. | ||
| We are the Saudi Arabia of natural gas. | ||
| And if anybody wants a nuclear power in natural gas can help you to transition to sustainable energy over many, many, many decades. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Many, many, many decades. | ||
| We are sitting on the Saudi Arabia of natural gas. | ||
| And we refuse to appropriately exploit it. | ||
| Think about that for a second. | ||
| Think about this summer when your diesel fuel and your air conditioning bill is going to make your head blow up. | ||
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