May 24, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Bill Gates, since you cover this in your book, how do we come up with a coordinated effort? | |
| What is the path to creating some sort of global response so that we can help the weakest link get stronger? | ||
| Well, there certainly was time enough for some countries to respond and have, you know, very, very mild pandemics. | ||
| Ground Zero, wherever the emergence takes place, is always going to have the toughest job. | ||
| Will they see an elevation in respiratory symptoms? | ||
| Will they see an elevation in deaths? | ||
| Will they run a diagnostic panel? | ||
| They're not going to be sequencing everything, but when you get an elevation, or you get your normal diagnostic panel showing something unusual, then you've got to start Sequencing. | ||
| And, you know, so it could be, there could be more delay in reaction if we have a country with low capacity and we don't have a global team. | ||
| People always talk about, oh, let's help countries do better. | ||
| Yeah, we should help countries do better. | ||
| But a lot of the pandemic risks are in countries who in the next several decades will not have that local capacity. | ||
| So you have to have global capacity. If you're serious about pandemics, you have to have global capacity that can come in and do those things. So we see that a lot. But here, we're lucky. | ||
| If this had been 10 years ago, some of these vaccine technologies did not exist. | ||
| If it comes 10 years from now, we should have far, far better diagnostic technology. | ||
| That is, be able to scale up every country within a month to diagnose their entire population. | ||
| We should have much better therapeutics, some of which will be pathogen independent. | ||
| And then, you know, as we do come up with vaccines, we want vaccines that are infection-blocking and long-duration, which today, you know, the vaccines have saved millions of lives, but they don't have much in the way of duration, and they're not good at infection-blocking. | ||
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| What does that mean? | ||
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| OK, welcome. | ||
| It is we're live. | ||
| You're in the war room. | ||
| It is Tuesday, 24 May year for 2022. | ||
| Of course, primaries are going over Alabama, Arkansas in Georgia right now. | ||
| We're going to have updates in the next two hours, live updates. | ||
| Also, the runoff in Texas today, a horrible situation in Texas elementary school. | ||
| As soon as Real America's Voice, we get some reporting from there. | ||
| We're going to try to go live and pick up coverage of this incident in Texas. | ||
| It looks like a number of maybe a teacher and a number of school children may be killed in a shooter incident in Texas. | ||
| So we're going to go there as soon as we can get some live coverage. | ||
| But today in Davos, Bill Gates gave his kind of the intellectual to put forward the intellectual plan for this pandemic treaty. | ||
| Of course, over in Geneva, we've had live coverage from both Geneva with Nora Bin Laden, Jack Posobiec in Davos. | ||
| Jack's heading over right now to Geneva. | ||
| He'll be there tomorrow for the World Health Assembly and the World Health Organization. | ||
| But I want to bring in Dr. Jeffrey Tucker of Brownstone. | ||
| He's been on top of this from the beginning. | ||
| Before I get to Geneva and World Health and everything, because it's a little confusion, we've had people Regalsky, James Regalsky, the investigator that kind of came up with this six or seven weeks ago, has been watching this live on the feed. | ||
| We don't know if the 13 items the U.S. | ||
| have put forward, the amendments, like 12 of them are not going forward. | ||
| It's a little bit of confusion. | ||
| I'll get to that in a second. | ||
| But Jeffrey, tell me about the Bill Gates presentation today. | ||
| You had a chance to watch it and we could have pulled a bunch of clips from it. | ||
| It was a little all over the map. | ||
| It was a panel. | ||
| But walk us through what he's laying out for this pandemic treaty. | ||
| Well, you tortured me by making me listen to that again. | ||
| He's not an intellectual. | ||
| He's actually, I'm sorry, but a very powerful but extremely stupid man. | ||
| He knows nothing about cell biology, and I sent that clip to a bunch of scientists connected with Brownstone, and they were mortified. | ||
| You know, like, why are these people running the world instead of people who actually understand cell biology and viruses? | ||
| So he doesn't He thinks vaccines are software, and the current software doesn't work, so all you have to do is put your engineers to work to create the next iteration, and then impose it on global humanity, and then we keep all of our internal hard drives free of pathogens. | ||
| That's what he believes. | ||
| Later in the presentation, he analogized pathogens to fires, which you always have to put out. | ||
| Which is a very stupid and extremely dangerous idea, because if you actually break down the immune system that way, if you stop all pathogenic spread, which you can't do, if you actually achieve that, you will destroy humanity. | ||
| Nobody's ever told him this? | ||
| It illustrates a problem with the ruling class. | ||
| They're not getting good information. | ||
| He's surrounded by sycophants, unfortunately. | ||
| The other thing that I took away from his presentation is, of course, that he believes lockdowns are the way to deal with any new pandemic, as defined by the World Health Organization, because he celebrated countries that dealt with SARS-CoV-1, which turns out to be all the countries that locked down During SARS-CoV-2. | ||
| So he believes in this. | ||
| Not just local lockdowns, not just your government locks you down and pins you into your house and forbids you from going to church. | ||
| He wants the World Health Organization to do this with authority from some sort of global government apparatus. | ||
| This is what he said today in the World Economic Forum in Davos. | ||
| This is what he announced to the crowd. | ||
| And everybody just nods their heads and pretends as if he's some sort of genius, whereas he's actually a crazy crank who knows essentially nothing. | ||
| And yet he wants to have ownership over all bodies on the human planet. | ||
| Sorry to put a blunt point on it, but that's it. | ||
| Okay, look, when they canceled or postponed Davos this year, they canceled for the first time, I think, last year in 2021. | ||
| When they announced they weren't gonna have it during the winter months over the mid-January ski season, They could have bumped it at any time to have it, and they literally laid it right on top of what's happening in Geneva, which is, what, three hours away by car. | ||
| So there's not, like you said, there's no conspiracies, but there's certainly no coincidences. | ||
| Make the connection. | ||
| Is the intellectual case he's trying to make of, and particularly there's some reason he's obsessed With vaccines. | ||
| He came to the White House and saw us and talked about the vaccines in Sub-Saharan Africa and everything he was doing. | ||
| He's clearly obsessed with vaccines for a reason. | ||
| And I think your analogy of software is brilliant. | ||
| But connect us to what he's laid out in Davos today with what's happening in Geneva at the same time. | ||
| Because this was not random that these things happened at the same time, sir. | ||
| No, I agree with you. | ||
| We're living in crazy times. | ||
| In the last several days, we have this World Health Organization treaty coming down along with the International Health Regulations, and that's all coming together at once, and that's going to transform life on Earth. | ||
| At the same time, the World Economic Forum is meeting, and Gates is going on about his brilliant new software, which he thinks are vaccines, which he admits in that presentation don't actually work. | ||
| in this particular COVID mRNA situation to stop infection or spread, but he thinks that we're going to get it right on the next iteration, as if Windows 6 is going to become Windows 7 and 8 and 9 and 10. | ||
| He really believes this, you know? | ||
| He doesn't see that there's any limits by virtue of nature or cell biology, two subjects about which he knows absolutely nothing. | ||
| So he's given billions of dollars to the World Health Organization, and now the World Health Organization has given billions of dollars to T-Systems, a major conglomerate in Europe that invented the vaccine passport for the EU, to develop one for the entire world so that you can't travel or go anywhere without their app on your phone. | ||
| Uh, revealing all your health details. | ||
| And I know this just because yesterday, T-Systems in Europe sent out a press release saying they were picked by the World Health Organization to be the company to develop this app for the entire world. | ||
| They're bragging about it. | ||
| Okay, so I put all this information on Twitter and people are denouncing me as some sort of conspiracy theorist. | ||
| Well, I mean, all I did was report What the companies themselves are saying. | ||
| You've got Gates working with the World Economic Forum, proclaiming the glories of basically centralized control of your biology. | ||
| At the same time, the World Health Organization is developing a new treaty for the world that the Biden administration is acquiescing to. | ||
| At the same time, the WHO is giving billions of dollars to T-Systems, a major corporate conglomerate to develop an app that we're all supposed to use in order to get across borders or even travel to the next state. | ||
| And we also know this is not going to be voluntary, because we've lived through the last year in which these things are mandated. | ||
| So, you know, the pharmaceutical companies come up with some concoction they want to shove into our arms. | ||
| If we don't get it, then we can't leave our homes? | ||
| I'm sorry, I'm not a paranoid person, but this is all coming together at once. | ||
| But you're getting there. | ||
| For those in particular, I want to go back. | ||
| The connection for what's happening in Georgia, what's happening in Alabama, in Arkansas, its primary day, It's MAGA versus all comers, particularly the Republican establishment. | ||
| This is really economic nationalism and sovereignty versus the globalists. | ||
| That's why what's happening in Geneva and what's happening in Davos is playing out in the Hustings right now in those states. | ||
| It's kind of a mini Super Tuesday. | ||
| Obviously the runoff in Texas today, the big race there, is for the Attorney General Ken Paxson versus the George Bush, the younger, George P. Bush, the younger The son of Jeb and the grandson of 41. | ||
| But I want to go back to something because the show grows every day. | ||
| You know, we have, I don't know, a million downloads in the podcast. | ||
| We're rated number one today, by the way, by Chartable on political podcasts in the nation in front of Pod Save America. | ||
| We kind of swap one or two every day or every other day with the Obama guys. | ||
| For people, so the show's growing and live, you know, the audience is, however you calculate it, it's, let's say, it's pretty big of activists. | ||
| For people just coming to the show, Bill Gates is one of the wealthiest guys, and I would actually say, don't take this the wrong way, Elon Musk fans, but his is all margined. | ||
| Bill Gates is probably the richest guy in the world or close to it. | ||
| He's got a huge foundation. | ||
| He's given money to all the Johns Hopkins and all of them. | ||
| He can get the best advice in the world and he's not a dumb guy. | ||
| So a guy that can pay and has all these guys on MSNBC, they're all here, that you're bettors, that go through this every day. | ||
| In his mind, he is getting the best information, and you have now quickly devolved into marginalia, right? | ||
| Because you and Naomi, all the people that used to be centrist, or people on the left, are now questioning this, and you're all the crazies. | ||
| What say you about that? | ||
| About me? | ||
| No, I mean, let's talk about Gates and his money. | ||
| Yeah, but Gates and the advice he's getting, and they're saying that everybody else is crazy. | ||
| So he's a classic case, and Steve, you know these people. | ||
| They're too rich to be bothered by the opinions of the rabble, right? | ||
| So for his entire, say, 30 years, he's surrounded himself by sycophants. | ||
| To whom he writes checks. | ||
| Actually, I'm sorry to put it this way, and it's taken me a long time to realize this. | ||
| The guy's an idiot. | ||
| It's just that nobody's willing to say this to him. | ||
| And if Bill Gates called me up and wanted to come to dinner, I would be glad to explain to him some basics of virology and immunology. | ||
| I'm an economist, but I can read. | ||
| You know, he apparently can't. | ||
| He gets all his information from sycophants who surround him and say, yes, Bill, Oh, you're so right, Bill. | ||
| And he thinks he has a lot of experiences in viruses because his Windows operating system didn't work for 20 years and it was hurt by viruses, right? | ||
| He never understood that these are metaphors. | ||
| They're not really biological viruses. | ||
| Yet he's running the world, apparently. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Jeff, we gotta bounce, but give your sub stack and how do people follow you on Twitter, all of it. | ||
| Give it right now and get her. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I run the Brownstone Institute. | ||
| Go to the Brownstone Institute, sign up for our emails, have a look at all of our content. | ||
| We're trying to keep up with this every day, but things are happening very fast. | ||
| I'm publishing as fast as I can because, Steve, I mean, we're faced with a war right now. | ||
| We are definitely, there's no doubt about it, and you're one of the field commanders. | ||
| Jeffrey Tucker. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| Come back in a moment. | ||
| We're going to talk about the COP civil war front, but for anyone who cares about small d democracy front, which part of this is most interesting to you? | ||
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Well thanks so much for having me. | |
| And today is definitely a very interesting primary day. | ||
| I'm covering governors this cycle, Nicole, and you cannot talk to Democratic gubernatorial candidates on the record, off the record, however, without them sharing this human moment where they're kind of having an almost existential crisis. | ||
| And they say, like, yes, we're talking about the threats to democracy on the trail. | ||
| We're talking about the different visions between the party. | ||
| But at the end of the day, this is an existential moment for these folks who are running against some of the most extreme Republicans we've seen In a really long time. | ||
| You're talking about the Georgia primary. | ||
| We've seen increased turnout there. | ||
| The thing that I'm watching, and I have reporting coming on this later today with my colleague Andrew at Axios, Republicans are determined to make the big lie bigger because of the turnout numbers we're seeing in Georgia. | ||
| They're using it to say that it's evidence that there's no voter suppression, and that's not just Republicans in Georgia. | ||
| It's Republicans here in Washington and across the country telling us they're planning to make this another cornerstone of their so-called election integrity campaign messaging. | ||
| But of course, as you know, and as Democrats will argue, that's just not true. | ||
| There are so many other macro external factors that contribute to turnout, as you know well. | ||
| The type of candidates who are running, the profile of the campaigns, which obviously Republicans have higher profile contests than Democrats this time. | ||
| So I think that's something we're going to watch, how Republicans are trying to twist this misinformation around voting into saying, oh, our voter suppression laws, they're not that bad. | ||
| They're not actually working against Democrats. | ||
| The idea that any of these races are going to yield a Republican who's going to be pro small d democracy is a fantasy. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| It is. | ||
| It's just MAGA with a smile on your face. | ||
| I mean, honestly, look at what Glenn Youngkin did in Virginia. | ||
| Look at Brian Kemp in Georgia. | ||
| Look at Ron DeSantis in Florida. | ||
| It's very much a Mitch McConnell approach. | ||
| We're still going to advance the hard-right, conservative, culture war, voter suppression, anti-immigrant, xenophobic MAGA platform. | ||
| We're just going to do it without hugging Donald Trump, and we're going to do it with more of a smile than more of the angry snarl. | ||
| That's the only difference here. | ||
| And I think for national Republicans who are trying to emerge, though, there are strategic lessons in the Junkin-Kemp-DeSantis brand, which is you cannot be adversarial to Donald Trump and Trumpism and his voters. | ||
| You must be complementary to it. | ||
| But once you get in that complimentary lane, it's okay to not hug Donald Trump the personality so closely, as long as you're adhering to his platform and to his populism. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Because guaranteeing peace and stability and security requires all of us acting quickly and preventively. | ||
| We should not be afraid. | ||
| To set new precedents and this is what the world should learn at various turning points to which it paid a high price. | ||
| This was the price for the fact that the world would only respond but not to act preventively. | ||
| So now we can do it differently, finally, in the correct way. | ||
| Thank you for your attention. | ||
| and glory to Ukraine. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Standing O in Davos for Zelensky, like there was a standing O over in the Congress, over in the Capitol. | ||
| Standing O in the House of Commons. | ||
| Everybody knows I'm not a fan. | ||
| I'm just not a fan. | ||
| And I have a number of reasons I can go through in detail. | ||
| But one of the things we try to do in the show is platform the emerging, rising, new generation of leaders. | ||
| I want to bring in now Kevin Roberts from Heritage, the new president of Heritage. | ||
| Kevin, honored to have you on here. | ||
| Obviously a big news day. | ||
| We're going to go to this news conference as soon as we finish. | ||
| There's a news conference down in Texas. | ||
| We're trying to get all the details and set up. | ||
| Kevin, you had Jonathan Swan, we know Jonathan well, did this interview with Zelensky in Davos. | ||
| You wrote this piece in the Wall Street Journal and then had to rejoin her in a comeback at you, a brushback pitch from the National Review. | ||
| I want you to go through because it's a pretty extraordinary article and it shows you what a foreign policy or national security expert you are that the Wall Street Journal published it. | ||
| Walk me through your piece about No More Games in Congress. | ||
| It was about this $40 billion, and then the brushback pitch, that National Review. | ||
| Let's start with your piece first. | ||
| Walk through the intellectual argument you made in this op-ed in, I think, the most prestigious op-ed section of any paper, which would be the Wall Street Journal. | ||
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Well, thanks, Steve, for having me on, and thanks for everything you've done for America. | |
| But to the heart of your first question, what I try to outline in that Wall Street Journal piece Is that there are typical Washington games with this Ukrainian aid package. | ||
| In other words, our establishment folks, the K Street lobbyists who wrote that bill, created the typical false dichotomy in Washington, and that is that if by some stroke of intelligence, good analysis, which my colleagues here at Heritage do every day, you would oppose that package, it means that you oppose the heroism of the individual Ukrainians. | ||
| What we are saying is that we have to, when we approach foreign policy, whether it's about Ukraine, about China, about Latin America, Ask the first question first. | ||
| And the first question is, what's in the best interest of the American people? | ||
| We weren't able to ask that question or any other questions regarding that aid package. | ||
| And what that did, as we were complaining about it, we were able to get 57 members of the House to vote against it, 11 members of the Senate, is apparently anger all the right people in D.C., people who are used to business as usual. | ||
| And what I'm saying on behalf of all of us at Heritage, Not just the analysts who are here, but the million and a half people who've been members off and on of Heritage the last decade, is that we've had enough. | ||
| We've had enough of Washington spending our money the wrong way, and in this case, to get to the heart of the question of $40 billion being spent on so-called aid, we have real significant concerns about corruption both on our side, you know, we have the most feckless presidential administration in history, | ||
| In the view of this historian, and we also, of course, have real significant concerns about outlaying that significant amount of sums so quickly to any country, especially Ukraine, at this particular time. | ||
| The brushback pitch, of course, is a lot of fun. | ||
| Let's help on the brushback pitch first. | ||
| I want to stick with this. | ||
| Particularly, look, this November is a referendum on what I call the illegitimate Biden regime and the Democrats and this thing that's spinning out of control more and more every day, right, in the economy. | ||
| But there's going to come a point in time, and what concerns me most about the package for Ukraine was not simply the $40 billion, not simply there was no hearings, not simply that they didn't have at least the modicum of controls they had in Afghanistan. | ||
| But that we're already at offensive economic war, right? | ||
| Trying to take down the central bank. | ||
| No one's come forward and kind of laid out exactly, you know, hear this talk about the international rules-based order. | ||
| You hear this talk about, you know, the territorial integrity. | ||
| Nobody's kind of walked through. | ||
| It feels like Inexorably, it's like Vietnam and Iraq and Afghanistan all over again. | ||
| We've seen this movie before. | ||
| The best of intentions from good people, but without kind of thinking this through. | ||
| What is your inherited position on how do we collectively start to think this through on the right? | ||
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Well, you know, to paraphrase Bill Buckley, we need to stand up for this moment in history and yell, stop. | |
| And I'm just going to tell you, Steve, in case it's not apparent to people in Washington, the more you pitch us and me inside, the more we're going to lean into the pitch and tell you on behalf of the American people, Against these globalist elites, especially the knuckleheads at Davos right now, we're going to stand up for the American people, and for that matter, people around the globe. | ||
| This is the key point that I want to make, Steve. | ||
| All we're asking for, all you mentioned in your question, is that we answer the question, what in the world is our strategy with this aid package? | ||
| What in the world is America trying to do with its foreign policy aid? | ||
| And the fact that people in this town, in Washington, get so angry at heritage of all institutions for asking that question tells you we're right over the mark and we're just going to continue to put lead on that target until we change things. | ||
| I'll say this too, just real briefly. | ||
| You know, some of the brushback pitches have emphasized that there were only 57 House members, only 11 Senators. | ||
| I guarantee you, my friend, the next time this comes up for a vote, not only will there be more members, I think we're going to win it, because the American people are on our side. | ||
| I agree with you there. | ||
| Let me go back to in Davos, and we're pressed for time here, but we've had Jack Pasovic over there. | ||
| They've had one panel after another, discussions, the media on Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, absolute crickets on Taiwan. | ||
| And you guys at Heritage were the first to kind of, I think, set up a group of specialists that looked at the Chinese Communist Party and the rise of China. | ||
| What you're thinking that we have this kind of, we look like we're actually drawn into a global conflict. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party, the South China Sea, Taiwan, Silicon Valley West, there's crickets in the media, there's cricket, even Biden's trip with the Quad almost gets virtually zero coverage. | ||
| What say you, sir? | ||
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Well, you're totally right. | |
| It speaks to how financially conflicted the folks at the World Economic Forum are. | ||
| And I'm sorry to say, I don't celebrate this, Steve, how financially conflicted so many of our policymakers in D.C. | ||
| are with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And so if they think that Heritage is bringing the heat and opposing the Ukraine aid package, wait until we discover and reveal some of the facts about those financial conflicts. | ||
| But this is really the point. | ||
| D.C. | ||
| swampiness aside, We as a country have to recognize that the single greatest threat facing America and the world since we defeated the British in the 18th century is the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| We need to stand at the ready to fight them. | ||
| It is the defining battle. | ||
| It is the defining issue of the 21st century. | ||
| Kevin, how do people find out more about you and Heritage and how they follow you on social media? | ||
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Heritage.org, you can read the smart comments of all my colleagues, and you can follow me on all the social platforms at KevinRobertsTX, because of this very proud Texan. | |
| Kevin, thank you very much. | ||
| All of our platforms today, we're going to put up the Wall Street Journal and a couple of the Brushback pitches that came afterwards. | ||
| Kevin, thank you very much for joining us today. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
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Thanks, Steve. | |
| Take care. | ||
| We're going to take a short break. | ||
| We're going to pick up coverage down in this, obviously, this terrible situation in Texas. | ||
| So take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to go, hopefully, to some live stream coverage. | ||
| Also, we'll be talking about what's happening in Georgia. | ||
| It looks like a massive turnout today of MAGA in the state of Georgia. | ||
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Georgia will get on top of all of it when we return in a moment. | |
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| I want to go to Debbie Dooley down in Georgia. | ||
| Debbie, can you give us a turn? | ||
| I've been following and talking to a lot of folks down there, following a lot of the getter feeds, Twitter, all that. | ||
| What I'm hearing is a Essentially it looks like, as of right now, you did not cannibalize this vote. | ||
| You had a huge historic early vote, but today it looks like it could be as big. | ||
| So it looks like we did not just cannibalize the vote. | ||
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I'm hearing the projections from the Secretary of State's office. | |
| It's 1.2 million votes. | ||
| It's a record in the midterm. | ||
| What we're watching very closely are the 9th and 14th districts. | ||
| They expected higher turnout, but it's 35% higher than what they thought it was going to be. | ||
| And that's huge. | ||
| Those are the most red, most conservative districts in Georgia. | ||
| We're also watching South Georgia because a lot of the rural areas in South Georgia, once those returns start coming in, We'll be able to gauge what percent of the vote David Perdue got. | ||
| In some of the Democrat precincts, like in Fulton, it's a low turnout. | ||
| It takes 10 minutes for them to get in and out and vote. | ||
| Another thing we are looking at very closely, which could come into play, there were roughly 75,000 Democrats that crossed over and voted in the GOP primary. | ||
| And that's important because a lot of hardcore Democrats want Stacey Abrams to face Brian Kemp because he is seen as Stacey can beat him. | ||
| But what I have been seeing on this bus tour is a lot of former Democrats, especially African American males, have been coming to the bus They're former Democrats because of the economy and Joe Biden. | ||
| They're now voting in the Republican primary. | ||
| They're big Trump supporters now. | ||
| And we see that no matter what city. | ||
| We were parked in the Home Depot parking lot, the bus this morning in Bynings, and a guy that was getting ready, African-American male, getting ready to clock in for work, said, hey, do you have t-shirts? | ||
| I'm a Trump supporter now. | ||
| I'm a former Democrat. | ||
| So we don't know what the Democrat vote comes into play, but this is what we're seeing on But you've got you got Night Storm over and I think in the 7th and you've got Vernon Jones who's a Trump endorsed in the 10th. | ||
| So you've got some African-American candidates, males, and these guys are on fire. | ||
| We had them on the show last night. | ||
| And Hershel Walker running for the Senate as the top of the ticket. | ||
| I want to go explain to our audience that may not be familiar with the geography of the great state of Georgia. | ||
| The 9th and the 14th, when you say they're the most reddest, the most Trump They're in North Georgia. | ||
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14th is up close to the Tennessee line. | |
| That's represented by Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| The 9th is represented by Andrew Clyde. | ||
| Now, the 9th is not quite as red because they, in redistricting, they included part of Gwinnett. | ||
| It's essentially the 4th 14th is like the Northwest, the 9th is the Northeast, and some of the LOJ, it moves West too. | ||
| Very high Republican vote. | ||
| The 9th was represented by Doug Collins for years. | ||
| We're checking precincts, some of these small rural areas in South Georgia as well. | ||
| And they should report first because they're the small rural precinct. | ||
| Essentially, one we're checking is Atkinson County. | ||
| Donald Trump got 71% of the vote. | ||
| It's a small rural county in South Georgia. | ||
| Got 71% of the vote. | ||
| And when that return comes in, we'll see what percentage of the vote David Perdue's getting and what percentage Brian Kemp's getting. | ||
| And we'll be able to gauge somewhat what we expect later during the night. | ||
| And here's something that's interesting. | ||
| Mark Roundtree, Landmark Communications, did a poll and he essentially, I don't believe the poll's right because he said that, you know, Brian Kemp's going to sell the victory with a 30 point margin, but what he found in his poll is that voters in the 30 to 40 range were going, breaking for David Perdue, so that's something that's interesting too. | ||
| But I think we'll know by 9 o'clock which way this is going to trend. | ||
| Let me just go back to some basic numbers. | ||
| I'm going to get the People's Fund who did a poll here. | ||
| At the 1.2 million, because right now in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, I think they're about 1.3, you could round up to 1.4. | ||
| At the 1.2 million, was this, how much above this, if that turns out to be the number or north of that, how much is that above where you guys thought you were going to be? | ||
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Probably about double. | |
| Uh, you know, what we're going, what we thought we would be, especially in the GOP primary 2018, we had a high turnout, but we, we also had, uh, you know, the Democrats, uh, outvoted the Republicans in the 2018. | ||
| This time it's the Republicans who are outvoting in the GOP primary. | ||
| So one thing you have, I think one thing you feel at least from the, and obviously the polls go for a couple more hours, they're open for a couple more hours, what you're seeing now, this whole theory that people were going to be turned off and not to come out because all the elections are stolen, I take it you're seeing from the bus tour and what we're seeing today in the lines that you're seeing an energy there, that people are very focused and they understand that this election is very important. | ||
| Debbie Dooley. | ||
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Yes, absolutely. | |
| I had somebody that just sent me a text today saying I haven't voted in the GOP primary in 20 years, I voted today. | ||
| A lot of folks, I think because the early turnout voting was so robust, they did, a lot of these areas did not think that we would have such a high turnout in election day voting, but we are. | ||
| I mean, it's above projections. | ||
| There's lines everywhere. | ||
| Even in Cobb County, there was a rule, there is a very deep red Republican precinct in Cobb County. | ||
| They said we haven't seen, had to stand in line for 15 to 20 years. | ||
| And they're standing in line to vote. | ||
| And people are excited, they're turning out to vote. | ||
| And when you have such a big turnout, it's because people Usually because people want change. | ||
| They want to change leadership. | ||
| Brian Kemp is the leadership You know, the top of the ticket. | ||
| People know if he is the GOP nominee, he will never beat Stacey Abrams because the MAGA folks will not unite around a guy that's playing footsies with the never-Trumpers that will be an impediment to Donald Trump taking Georgia in 2024. | ||
| MAGA's not going to stand for that. | ||
| Debbie, give your social media handles. | ||
| John Fredericks is down there. | ||
| He's setting up for a show. | ||
| He's going to give his election night coverage. | ||
| The bus has been rolling just like it was in the Commonwealth of Virginia. | ||
| Give your social media so people can track you. | ||
| Everybody can hear the sound of my voice, obviously in Arkansas and Alabama, but particularly in Georgia. | ||
| There's still time. | ||
| If you're registered to vote, get out there. | ||
| Take somebody with you. | ||
| MAGA's got to represent the whole world. | ||
| The focus today, tonight, is not on Davos and it's not on Geneva. | ||
| It will be tomorrow. | ||
| It's on what's happening there. | ||
| So Debbie, how do people track you, ma'am? | ||
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They can track me. | |
| I'm on Gatter and Twitter, at CrimsonTiter, at CrimsonTiter. | ||
| You can also email me, Debbie, at MainStreetPatriots.us. | ||
| We're in it to win, and we're going to keep battling no matter what happens. | ||
| I think what I'm seeing looks very good, but until you start seeing those returns in, you don't feel comfortable. | ||
| We're going to win it, Steve! | ||
| We'll be checking in with you throughout the union. | ||
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We're gonna win it today. We're gonna win it. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| From your lips to God's ear. | ||
| Okay, thank you very much. | ||
| I'm going to go now to Richard Barris, the numbers guy. | ||
| Richard, walk me through, particularly, you came out with, I think, an outlier, right? | ||
| Was it Towery came out the other day and essentially backed your play, and he's supposedly the best guy in Georgia, right? | ||
| Insider Advantage, Fox 5. | ||
| He came out, and as I said, he could almost lay the numbers on top of each other. | ||
| You came out a week or so ago, you were, 10 days ago, maybe two weeks, you were highly criticized for your analysis. | ||
| Walk us through what the analysis is, and I think people are starting to feel comfortable that the game day vote, in other words, the early vote didn't cannibalize the total vote. | ||
| It looks like it's going to be a pretty big turnout. | ||
| It could be a pretty big turnout in Georgia. | ||
| Richard Beres. | ||
| Yeah, just that 1.2 million, that is the number that we heard. | ||
| What she said was pretty much spot on from what we have heard. | ||
| But this is what we said when we came out with the poll, the CD Media Big Data poll a couple weeks ago, or 10 days ago, whatever, yeah, roughly. | ||
| Ahead of Matt at Insider Advantage and now we have Trafalgar today. | ||
| Bottom line, Kemp in early May looked like he could sail to victory. | ||
| Mid 50s, even high 50s, not 60% like the Fox News poll showed. | ||
| What we saw was him declining as time went on. | ||
| He was falling, it was going in the wrong direction for Brian Kemp. | ||
| And I told you this when we were still in the field, in the north, the area that she was just talking about, that was the weakest area for Brian Kemp, followed by the southern counties that butt up against Florida, all the way leading up almost to Savannah. | ||
| He was well below 50 in those areas when we were polling. | ||
| This was the analysis from the beginning, that the early vote, when we had conducted that poll and it was done, and there was still about a week of early voting to go, We said Kemp was below 50 in that early vote. | ||
| Every bit of his 50 plus percent was coming from people who said, I'm going to vote early, but I haven't voted yet. | ||
| And then that election day vote also had him below 50. | ||
| This is, honestly, from what everyone's been hearing, this isn't a good scenario for Brian Kemp because What this is telling you is that this isn't the traditional, I always vote, I'm a 4 for 4 Republican primary voter. | ||
| This is what we saw in other states, like Ohio, where there were first-time primary voters. | ||
| Those aren't loyalists to the party. | ||
| Those are more definitely more Trump, whatever you want to call it, MAGA, more Trump voters. | ||
| So, this is the bad scenario for Brian Kemp. | ||
| And the Atlanta Journal, Constitution, and the rest of them, Who pushed this nonsense for three weeks that this race is over. | ||
| Shame on them again. | ||
| They actually published an analysis, Steve, that said rural high turnout is good for Brian Kemp. | ||
| That's ludicrous. | ||
| Everybody now, we came out first and now others are backing it. | ||
| He needs suburban, typical, affluent Republicans. | ||
| You hang on for a second. | ||
| We're going to stick with Richard Barris. | ||
| I really want to compliment L. Todd Wood and the team at CD Media that had the guts to back Barris' analysis and they came out and people were going, you're kidding me. | ||
| This guy's up by, remember, 27 points before the John Fredericks rolling tour down there in the war room put their shoulder to the wheel with the posse. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Richard Barris, the people's pundit, will join us next. | ||
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| I want to go back to the people's pundit, L. Todd Wood and the guys at CD Media put this poll out. | ||
| Would your poll change? | ||
| I mean, what did you model as far as your turnout model? | ||
| Because I keep telling people when they do these and with these polls, the polls come out and clearly the Fox, but however this turns out, let's just be brutally frank. | ||
| The Fox polls and these other polls, AJC and the Fox polls were suppression polls. | ||
| People do this in the business. | ||
| They do it to break you psychologically, to make it, hey, I'm not going to go, the guy's down 27, I'm not a David Perdue guy, you know, Trump's not on the ballot. | ||
| So Richard, tell me, how does this change? | ||
| You were the first out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Towery came out from Insider, Fox 5, local. | ||
| He's terrific. | ||
| The guys at Trafalgar, I think they're actually down, I think they're in Georgia. | ||
| They know the district. | ||
| All you guys kind of line up close to it, which is radically different, radically different than where this started, where this started. | ||
| But this turnout model, because the big question I think a lot of people had, were people jacked up and went to early vote, and is that going to cannibalize, you're still going to get the same amount, but just cannibalize the game day vote? | ||
| It appears, at least anecdotally, that that may not be happening, and may not be happening particularly in some of these hard Trump districts, like the Marjorie Taylor Greene's 14th and the districts down there in South Georgia, right on the Florida border. | ||
| Richard Beres. | ||
| Yeah, I think this is a cop-out. | ||
| Like I said the other day, this is a cop-out pollsters have been relying on for years. | ||
| Oh, I kind of knew how people were going to vote. | ||
| I just didn't get who was going to come out to vote correctly. | ||
| You know, again, that's part of a pollster's job to do. | ||
| I think a lot and this happened in Ohio. | ||
| This happened definitely in Pennsylvania. | ||
| I stopped believing. | ||
| This group of the electorate, or I started, you know, to believe them and I stopped, uh, you know, questioning them. | ||
| Back in 2016 in Ohio, what'll happen, Steve, is that people will look at their vote history. | ||
| They'll ask them how likely they are to vote. | ||
| But in many of these polls, that's not the entirety of their, their likely voter screen. | ||
| So they'll look at their vote history. | ||
| Even if someone tells you I'm certain to vote, many of these pollsters will scream them out anyway, because they don't have a long enough primary vote history. | ||
| They're looking for two for four. | ||
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Or three or four for four voters. | |
| If you do that, you will miss a higher turnout election like this. | ||
| You will completely blow it. | ||
| They did it to JD Vance, Fabrizio, Tony Fabrizio did not get fooled by that. | ||
| He believed those people. | ||
| And in fact, they did come out and they voted for JD Vance. | ||
| These were people in Georgia the same way. | ||
| There's a lot of ancestral Democratic voting blocs that became Trumplican under Donald Trump. | ||
| And you will not find them rich in vote history in a Republican primary. | ||
| If you look at the voter file, they're not going to be there because they weren't Republicans until Donald Trump. | ||
| That's why Central and Southern Georgia under Donald Trump look very different than they do under Mitt Romney. | ||
| It's not the same map. | ||
| And if you apply that likely screen, you're going to, you're going to screen these voters right out. | ||
| And you'll miss him. | ||
| One thing I want... Here's something I want to make sure the audience... And by the way, Richard, I know you're jammed for time, but we'd love to keep you over and start the top of the next hour with you. | ||
| Richard Barris, who was with us on Election Night in 2020, one of the smartest guys around. | ||
| Although the secret sauce there is the wife does all the work and Richard gets all the glory. | ||
| She is the engine room of the People's Pundit. | ||
| She's logistics! | ||
| Same with John Fredericks. | ||
| They've got these strong women in background. | ||
| That's why they're successful. | ||
| You are that. | ||
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Okay, hold it. | |
| Let me give you the signal, not the noise. | ||
| All you, what they're pounding on and what they're going to try to do on the on this January 6th, although they didn't get primetime anywhere, they only got two nights, I don't think they're even in network. | ||
| And all you've heard on MSNBC, they play it over and over and over again, is anti-democratic forces, the Trump movement's anti-democratic, it's anti-democratic, it's anti-democratic. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Democracy is folks that are registered voters coming out to vote in an election that their ballot is tracked all the way through and, you know, it can be verified. | ||
| That's democracy. | ||
| And right now you're seeing, I think, what they're really starting to get shaken up about, particularly because Georgia was all voter suppression, these Jim Crow laws, you know, Biden went down there. | ||
| And I'm hearing Arkansas is big too, and I think Alabama is going to be big. | ||
| That if Georgia represents, like it appears, I don't want to get ahead of this, it appears it may be representing, and polls aren't closed yet, you've got to run through the tape. | ||
| You're going to blow the democracy, democracy is alive, and here's where democracy is really alive, in MAGA. | ||
| Because it's not, remember there are no conspiracies, no coincidences. | ||
| First of May is when John Fredericks took the bus tour, just like in Virginia, to get the MAGA to go to these rural areas, and to these second and third tier communities, cities, and towns, and let the MAGA message know that this was about MAGA, not even about Purdue. | ||
| This was something deeper that was going on here. | ||
| And look at records in early voting, and it looks like if we hold today, maybe even combined records in combined voting, because Game Day is so strong. | ||
| Democracy is alive and well. | ||
| MAGA is, because we're ascendant. | ||
| Not just that, we're two-thirds of the nation. | ||
| This is a preamble to what's going to happen in November. | ||
| And they can't stop it. | ||
| Here's why they can't stop it. | ||
| Their people are not motivated. | ||
| The reason our people are not motivated, we're going to go through, Richard's just come out of the field with a national poll. | ||
| The reason they're not motivated is that, except for the hardcore core ideologues, they've seen this economic destruction. | ||
| They don't know what country they're in. | ||
| And I keep saying, Hispanic Americans and African Americans, the core of those family values are quite conservative. | ||
| They're actually with us. | ||
| All we have to do is get the economics right. | ||
| We have to get the economics right. | ||
| More populist, more economic nationalism. | ||
| Richard, we're going to take a short break. | ||
| We're going to be back. | ||
| We're in Battleground. | ||
| The reason we did it is for this. | ||
| Richard Barris, the Great People's Pundit, is going to join us. | ||
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