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Episode 1,874 – WHO Warns Against Gatherings; Defense Of TaiwanEpisode 1,874 – WHO Warns Against Gatherings; Defense Of Taiwan
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dr robert malone
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frank gaffney
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steve bannon
18:32
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todd bensman
08:26
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edward dowd
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anthony fauci
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unidentified
Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
You don't want to frighten the American public.
unidentified
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
That this is going to be a real serious problem.
unidentified
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
unidentified
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
It's Saturday the 21st of May, the year of our Lord, 2022.
It is a day the Daily Telegraph has reported that the proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the secular Pope, Jeffrey Sachs, has thrown under the bus the Chinese Communist Party, the U.S.
Intelligence Agency, and, wait for it, the National Institute of Health, including Francis Collins and Tony Fauci.
It's a blockbuster report.
Ben Harnwell is working on it.
We broke it earlier.
He'll be back.
Got a panel of three of the best guys we've ever had on the show.
Malone in Bath, England.
Jeffrey Tucker from Brownstone.
Of course, Ed Dowd, the great financier out in Hawaii.
I want to go because we've got limited time.
Dr. Malone, we're going to get into this administrative state.
Just get us up to speed exactly what Monkeypox is, what's happening with it.
You've got a big analysis I've seen that you sent me.
What is going on here?
People are confused.
What is it?
Is monkey pox and is you think this is something that, you know, is is trying to a misdirection play or is it serious?
dr robert malone
Misdirection play.
I love the run in that you have here with Tony Fauci saying we can't frighten the American public is so classic and it's a perfect setup for today's segment.
So I just want to read a little clip that comes to us courtesy of Gavi.
The Bill Gates funded group, in which they have put their analysis of monkeypox, and they try to tie it to Ebola.
I'm going to read.
Similar to viruses like Ebola, transmission only happens in close proximity by contact with lesions, body fluids, etc.
Then it goes on to say, although symptoms often ease within a month, one case in 10 can be fatal.
And then in the same article, they go on to quote the World Health Organization In a bias sampling, which is cases reported to the WHO that are so severe that a nation's state feels like they have to report it, the aggregate case fatality rate is 3.7%.
So how Gavi goes from 3.7%, which is a worst case scenario, to 10% boggles my mind.
This is clear fear porn.
I listened in as I was in the airport lounge about to jump over to Bath here, to Heathrow, listening to CNN push their version of fear porn, in which they were clearly showing smallpox infected patients.
And including that in this statement about monkeypox.
So getting on to your question, is monkeypox related to smallpox?
Yes.
So is cowpox, which is used to vaccinate against smallpox.
Historically, this is Edward Jenner.
So is camelpox, There are a number of these pox viruses that are absolutely not lethal in humans.
The mortality rate in humans is less than 1%.
This is only spread by close contact.
All the cases so far have been, let's say gently, men who have sex with men.
And monkey pox has been endemic in Central Africa for probably the history of humankind.
Because it resides in a number of animal species.
And of the two clades of monkeypox, the one that's circulating right now, calling it circulating, is a gross overstatement.
The one that has had a few scattered cases is the least of the two in terms of its disease.
So, is this more fear porn?
And that is the title of my sub stack for today.
Monkeypox, truth versus fear porn.
My assessment is it is absolutely another case Of the media and the government cooperating to spin up more fear that is absolutely unfounded.
steve bannon
Dr. Monk, I know you've got a bouncer at Bath for one of these major conferences.
You're working on your new book to come out, but I've got to take a second because we have the engine room that helps us put the show together.
And part of the engine room has been on me for months about not talking about GAVI.
Tell us GAVI.
This is a concept that we want to get out there.
It's time now.
They've got to come front and center.
What is GAVI?
Why is it so important?
Why does nobody talk about it and kind of what does it do and why would it rear its head here in this monkeypox thing when we just found out the U.S.
government's bought 13 million vaccines that they can put away on dry ice or something?
dr robert malone
By the way, Steve, they already have stockpiled vaccines for smallpox.
What they bought is more smallpox vaccine and I've sent Cameron the link Your posse can easily look up.
The name of the product is called Jynneos.
J-Y-N-N-E-O-S.
It is marketed by Bavarian Nordic.
And all you have to do is search for package insert and Jynneos and you'll pull up the package insert for the product.
And they will find that this is absolutely not a benign product.
And just as with the old DriveX product, which is somewhat safer than that I had experience with that and this product when I was working for DoD.
This has as one of its leading rare serious adverse events.
Wait for it.
Cardiotoxicity myocarditis.
Wow.
So I recommend that your posse pull up the package insert.
I've sent the link to Cameron.
But this is a product that's been out there for a long time.
There he goes.
Cameron, you're amazing.
Thank you, Denver.
So, this is one of the two licensed smallpox vaccines.
It is more immunogenic than the ECAM2000 that belongs to Bio... or whatever they call it, Merchant Biosystems now.
And the government has just bought, spent $114 million of your money For a mitigating a threat by buying a product, which they already have in stockpile and mitigating a threat, which can be easily mitigated by just contact tracing and standard public health measures.
This is a gross overreaction.
And if you're possibly wanted yet another example of the, uh, uh, uh, uh, pharmaceutical industrial complex tail wagging the presidential dog, this would be it.
steve bannon
Real quickly, give me give me two minutes on Gavi.
Why is this so big?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
So people in the know, this thing, this is a power broker.
dr robert malone
Global AIDS vaccine initiative funded by Bill and Melinda Gates.
It's kind of the in the in the history of what we call gatelets.
This play where Bill funds nonprofits that then allow him to make tax free donations To support the development of products for companies that he buys stock in, because that's the cycle, the circle of life here.
Gavi is his prototype NGO that he set up years and years ago for AIDS vaccine initiative development, and it has just grown into a monster.
And it has become kind of an all-purpose home, somewhat akin to the initiative that was set up In in the Netherlands that has driven a lot of these current vaccines being developed.
So it's it's one of his core assets, basically.
And what you're looking at with PR coming out of Gavi is basically press and information and positioning that is directly coming through and serving the interests of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
steve bannon
Dr. Malone, how do people find you?
How do they get to your Substack?
How do they follow you on your travels?
dr robert malone
Thank you so much.
Of course, Getter.
Getter is our go-to.
I'm sorry, Twitter can pounce as far as I'm concerned.
As you see, it's at rwmalonemd.
And then the Substack is rwmalonemd.substack.com.
Today's is called Monkeypox, Fear versus, Truth versus Fear Porn.
And you can also find me through globalcovidsummit.org.
And I think that's enough websites for now.
I thank you, Steve, for the opportunity.
And thank you to gentlemen for your leadership and to the Posse for all their amazing work.
steve bannon
Dr. Malone, thank you.
Honored to have you on here, and thank you for breaking away today at another brutally tough conference at Bath, England.
Don't forget us when you're on the catamaran in the Met.
Dr. Robert Malone, the gentleman farmer from Middleburg.
Let's go to Jeffrey Tucker.
I'm going to ask Ed Dowd.
Ed Dowd's in Hawaii.
What am I doing here?
I'm a Schmendrick, right?
Malone's living high in the hog and bath, taking the waters.
I got dals in Hawaii, right, living like Captain Cook.
Okay, let's go to Jeffrey Tucker.
Jeffrey Tucker's working at Brownstone.
Jeffrey, you got a great... Jordan Schachtel used to work for me at Breitbart.
Brilliant guy.
Tell me about this piece that's up on Brownstone right now about the monkey pots.
unidentified
Well, you can't believe it.
I mean, here's what's funny.
You and I were on yesterday, worrying about this World Health Organization treaty and change of regulations.
We both said, this is a problem because it means that at any moment they can declare a pandemic and then recommend to all member states that they lock everybody down and mask up and shut the schools and you can't go to church and so on.
And we said, well, that sounds like a terrible idea.
Well, we got off the interview and I think it must have been within the hour.
You know, every mainstream news media was screaming about monkeypox immediately.
And I couldn't believe it.
I thought, here we are, you know, already, and it shows just how easy it is.
steve bannon
But hang on, hang on, hang on.
When you were on, this is why I want to have you back.
When you were on, they put up that they were having an emergency Zoom call, an emergency meeting of 100 nations to go through monkeypox.
I mean, you kind of called it and said, hey, this whole WHO thing is kind of set up for the next one.
And the next one, they can't even wait, they bang, they hit you with the next one right there.
unidentified
That's exactly what happened.
So, I spent most of yesterday trying to recalibrate and examine this, and what we're seeing is the playbook, it's identical.
You know, you have to think about it.
Like, if you make one, if you're a movie producer and you make one great hit movie, right?
The very next question is, well, when's part two coming?
You know, we've got to repeat this, right?
So, this seems to be a repeat in every way.
So we've got the cases spilling out of the region of endemicity, the hysteria on the move, the World Health Organization scrambling, getting on the phone, what are we going to do about monkeypox?
U.S. government ordering these vaccines, which apparently are smallpox vaccines.
As Dr. Malone said, the fear pouring, going crazy.
But this Sanger article, and I didn't realize that he worked for you at Breitbart.
This guy's a genius, but... Oh, you mentioned Shacktell.
That's great.
But the Sanger article that I put up yesterday, I almost couldn't believe it.
It's called, Monkeypox was a tabletop simulation only last year.
Okay?
And I thought, that can't be true.
So I read the article, sure enough, and all these, this is, you know, as HG Wells says, you know, the open conspiracy.
Last March, something called the Nuclear Threat Initiative in Munich held a tabletop exercise with all of our favorite epidemiologists that have become so famous thanks to CNN and Twitter.
We're all there to tabletop a simulation of a monkeypox virus that would arrive on May 15, 2022.
That's what the report says.
I mean, you can't believe it.
It's right there.
And I'm reading this thinking, how is this even possible?
These people are insane.
So then I got curious, and I looked up the Nuclear Threat Initiative, and I don't even need to complete the sentence, right?
Who funds this Nuclear Threat Initiative in Munich?
We all know.
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
steve bannon
But of course!
unidentified
You know, it's all there, and you can click, click, click, so... I'm sure tomorrow is going to have...
There's going to be a big article in the New York Times.
steve bannon
We've got to bounce.
By the way, my staff's going to reach out to you about this.
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
Jeffrey Sachs.
This is a blockbuster.
But how do people get to Brownstone and how do they get to you?
We've got 30 seconds.
How do they find you on social media and Brownstone?
unidentified
Go to Brownstone.org.
I'd urge you to sign up for the emails because it's the only real thing we can depend on these days, for sure.
Although we're on Getter, which I'm thrilled about.
A lot of attention from there.
The top article's monkeypox was a tabletop simulation.
Have a look.
Share it.
You can write to me, too.
I'm Tucker at Brownstone.
steve bannon
Unbelievable.
Brownstone's on fire.
Thank you very much.
Okay.
Short break.
We've got Ed Dowd on the global economy.
Frank Gaffney's going to talk about the World Health Organization, this meeting, also the defense of Taiwan.
And Todd Bensman's coming in the studio to talk about the border and the invasion.
All next.
unidentified
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steve bannon
You know, this show is so good today.
I tell guys, I know we have a successful show.
When we finish, I go, man, I would have liked to watch that because I'd be learning.
So I'm learning stuff all the time on the show.
But man, this is incredible.
You also know the imperial capital's in kind of quasi lockdown around the Supreme Court ever since the leak of the Roe decision or the preliminary decision.
And it's going to be in lockdown all the way through November and probably longer.
So it's not it's not you just can't go wandering around Capitol Hill.
Like, usually it's not as bad as a six, so to get action to the worm, so we've really restricted, we have very few people.
But the great Todd Bensman, the great Todd Bensman is out of the Darien Gap.
We lost Jan, Jan's down, he's going crazy, he's like Colonel Kurtz now.
unidentified
He's deep in the Darien Gap, he's got his Blackhawk helicopter.
steve bannon
We got Burquam.
Where knows Burquam?
There's all our other guys.
Bensman.
Todd was in town and since the federal ruling last night of the judge in Louisiana that keeps on Title 42.
We're going to get to the second of Todd Bensman.
that it's this an organized plan of the Biden administration to an invasion of a country on the southern border and we just sent $40 billion over to defend Ukraine's eastern border. I got Frank Gaffney's gonna come on talk about WHO Frank's also gonna talk about this new initiative at the Committee on present danger for a defense of Taiwan which is in the vital national security interests of the United States but I want to go back to Ed Dowd.
Okay, Ed, you've been dropping bombs, and of course, I can tell from the War on Posse and all the different live chats and forums, people are like, oh my god, this guy's crazier than Bannon on this.
But I want to go back and process because, and I want people to understand, About half of the Wall Street guys are kind of with Ed saying, hey look, this system and the structure of our financial infrastructure is set up for negative interest rates.
We haven't had inflation in 40 or 50 years.
And you guys are using tools from a playbook that Volcker and Reagan used, but it's a different country.
As I keep saying, the manufacturing base is gone, we're not a creditor nation, we're a massive debtor nation.
And people are saying if you try to go to that playbook and wring the inflation out today, as would be the normal playbook you'd run, the whole thing could collapse.
It could collapse.
And so, You may have, if you don't have methadone, you may have to keep giving the junky heroin.
And that is that you've got to keep, the rate increases should not be as high, and more importantly, the quantitative easing should not stop.
Remember, you have the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve, and right now they're saying $34 billion.
That should stop.
What Ed is saying, you've got to keep the patient alive.
And this goes back to Dave Brat saying the underlying economy's in terrible shape.
To keep the patient alive, you have to keep, wait for it, you have to keep printing money.
Is that essentially your theory of the case, Ed?
edward dowd
Correct.
The bottom line is this.
In 2019, we had a repo crisis where repo rates spiked, global economy was starting to roll over, and then voila, COVID came along and gave the Fed an excuse to print 65% money supply to keep this thing afloat for another couple of years.
What people don't seem to understand is the money printing actually has to keep accelerating to keep this Ponzi scheme going.
It's 109 year old Ponzi scheme, but it needs an accelerating money supply growth.
So we just had 65%.
So the rate of change is obviously the wrong way.
That's why we're seeing global slowing in the dollar going straight up.
That's indicative of global Credit conditions going south.
You have to understand there's about 14 trillion in US dollar denominated international debt.
So all of our allies are short the dollar and they're screaming bloody murder because it's killing them and servicing a lot of their debt.
steve bannon
You have to understand, too, your bettors.
I put this up today about, finally, The Guardian had an article about some genius over at The Guardian saying, you know, we really got this exposure to China and these supply chains.
Think about it for a second.
All the bettors have a Ponzi scheme going.
At the same time, over the 20 years, they come up with an idea.
Why don't we ship the entire manufacturing base of America over to a third world country That's controlled by an atheistic, communistic, transnational criminal organization that also happens to be our, the Judeo-Christian West, mortal enemy.
Why don't we do the transnational criminal organization?
Why don't we do that?
The monetary Ponzi scheme, and the one thing he had going for you, is this, because of Henry Clay and Abraham Lincoln and Alexander Hamilton, I'm going to throw some random names out, Alexander Hamilton, right?
The men who built this country called the American system, this massive manufacturing base that destroyed the Nazis and the fascists, right?
And the imperial junta and the Tojos that destroyed it all.
The arsenal of democracy.
Why don't we take the arsenal of democracy at the same time we get the monetary policy scheme.
Here's what we're going to do.
We're going to ship that to a third world nation.
Remember China in 1999 we let them in was a trillion dollar economy.
Okay, under a trillion dollars.
We're going to send it to a third world country controlled by a criminal apparatus that also on the side happens to be completely atheistic, totally Marxist, and our mortal sworn enemy.
Let's do that and see how it works out.
That, ladies and gentlemen, Is the post-war, international, rules-based order, the fetish that these guys have every day on MSNBC, the Atlanticists, talk about, and why you just sent $40 billion for a conflict on the eastern border of Ukraine, and Todd Bensman is going to sit here and look you in the eye in a few minutes and say,
We got an organized invasion of this country, not random, organized invasion of this nation that is taking place on your unprotected southern border.
So you got 100,000 troops in Poland, combat troops in Poland that we just told today are going to stay there, right?
In Poland and the Baltics.
You got no troops on the southern border.
Ed.
How do people get to you?
Because I follow you on Getter, and you're literally on fire.
We're going to have you back next week, and we're going to get Philip Patrick from Birch Gold, I'm going to get Cortez, Navarro, you, everybody.
We're going to do a forum on here.
How do people follow you over the weekend?
edward dowd
Yeah, so I'm on Getter, at Edward Dowd, D-O-W-D, and still on Twitter, surprisingly, at Dowd, Edward, D-O-W-D, Edward.
You know, just as we look forward to the next month or so or two months, you know, into the markets and what's going to happen newswise, you just have to understand that the central bankers and politicians have bankrupted the world.
And a lot of the things you're going to see in the media are distractions to cover that.
And COVID was a convenient excuse to cover the implosion of the credit system.
So a lot of things you see in the news are distractions.
This recent monkey pox nonsense.
They're going to try to gin it up and I suspect they're going to try to lock down the economy right before the elections.
unidentified
Wow.
steve bannon
When Ed Dale says that, amazing.
So you think the administrative state stepping in here and say, Hey, look, we got to protect this thing.
We see the upper, we see a populist upright is going to throw us out of office.
And so what we'll do is we'll come up with, we'll come up with a phase two, correct?
Is that what you're saying?
unidentified
Absolutely.
edward dowd
And you have to also think about what's happened with the vaccines and the excess mortality.
I mean, a lot of people, if the GOP takes power, are going to go to jail.
And if you're a criminal, you're not going to let the elections go off without giving it a shot.
steve bannon
This is why Jeffrey Sachs is singing the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science.
This is not, it's not up on Gateway Pundit, as much as I love Gateway Pundit.
This thing's in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science.
It's high church, okay?
Ed Dowd, I love you, you're amazing.
We have different ideas about this, but I gotta tell you, hey, I don't wanna ever hear Bannon's Dark Maga.
unidentified
I got Ed Dowd in here saying it's all collapsing.
steve bannon
Run for the hills.
At least I'm giving you a potential solution.
Doud, I love you, brother.
We'll have you on next week.
Enjoy another tough day.
So Malone's in Bath, England, and Doud's in Hawaii.
Have a great day out there in the beautiful Hawaiian Islands.
edward dowd
Thank you.
It's a beach day today.
steve bannon
And every day is a beach day in Hawaii.
We love it.
Okay, let's get Frank Gaffney in here.
Frank, a couple things.
I want to get WHO in the action steps.
I want to give the site.
I know the audience is all worked up now, all jacked up, so they've had enough Warpath coffee, maybe get a second or third cup of that, and then they want to go to work.
So put them to work, Frank.
Where do you send them to get on top of this WHO situation?
frank gaffney
Well, I'm going to give you that in just a second, Steve.
Three quick points.
The greatest misdiagnosis in history of a public health crisis was brought to us by Dr. Tedros Ghebreyesus, the Director General of the World Health Organization.
He did it, perhaps because he doesn't know what he's doing.
He's not a medical doctor.
He's a guy who's been responsible, apparently, for genocide in his own country of Ethiopia.
But he did it because the Chinese Communist Party, which owns him, told him to do it. Complete misdirection, you know, go into those lockdowns, quarantines, mask mandates, all the rest of it. The China model, that brought us millions of unnecessary deaths around the world, including in our own country.
Point one. Point two, the Biden administration, and thanks so much for all that you've done on raising the awareness about this, and I want to thank Robert Malone, among other things, for getting Tucker Carlson to do the same, as I understand it, the other night.
The The audience is properly jacked up because our own government is now trying to get more power in the hands of Dr. Tedros to tell us what to do about public health emergencies.
And point three, Steve, The greatest public health emergency of international concern, bar none, is the Chinese Communist Party's biological warfare program.
The folks who brought us Pandemic 1.0 The folks who will doubtless bring us another one here shortly, maybe as your guests have been saying in the run-up to this election, because we sure don't want to see the populist, nationalist, American patriots taking over our country again, do we?
So what do we do about this?
I've got three things.
One is we need every fricking Republican in the United States Congress to be standing up on their hind legs and saying, we're not going to go there.
We're not going to have business as usual as long as these kinds of authorities are being transferred to a person who has been, I believe, criminally responsible, not just for malfeasance, but for murder, namely Dr. Tedros.
Point two, every single person running for Congress Contender, incumbent, what have you, has to be challenged now as to what you're going to do about this.
And third, go to StopVaxPassports.org for the webinar that we did this week as well as an Align Act campaign that will allow you to get right in the grill of the people who are supposed to be representing you.
unidentified
I want everybody watching right now to get on there.
steve bannon
Frank, you stay on.
You hang on.
I got Todd Benz and Frank Gaffney.
It's a couple of hitters right there.
Great show.
unidentified
Pretty stoked.
steve bannon
Good job, Cameron.
Be back in a moment.
unidentified
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steve bannon
OK, I got to do Taiwan with Gaffney.
I got the southern border invasion with Todd.
I've got to get Ben Harnwell back up.
There's massive breaking news on the national proceedings of the National Academy of Science.
Also, Australia, the engine room is telling me, bugging me.
I don't think it's going to be a good day for the conservative government there.
And here's the reason.
They didn't run the country like a conservative government.
I think they've had, hey, Morrison, these guys, I don't know, I don't want to predict what's going to happen, but I think they have mismanaged so many things down there.
And the other day he was just saying about Frankie, they said later he was confused, but he said, I don't have a problem with allowing the World Health Organization to take more of Australia's sovereignty.
Right?
Outrageous.
Frank, we're coming back and getting all of that, obviously on Monday, but I've got to get to Taiwan.
You were in Dallas the other night with two of my favorite people.
You were incredible.
You've got the webinar, We Want to Get Up, and we've got this book.
People gotta start, in the vital, the eastern border of Ukraine ain't in the vital national security of the United States, it's not even in the national security interest of the United States.
The South China Sea and Taiwan, because Taiwan's Silicon Valley West, your life will dramatically change if that falls into the hands of the Chinese Communist Party.
Frank Gaffney.
frank gaffney
Absolutely right, Steve.
One of the most important lessons learned, or should have been learned, from Ukraine is you defend places before they're attacked, not try to Get stuff to them after they have been.
It was the subject of a really important new book available for peanuts at Amazon called Stopping a Taiwan Invasion.
It's a product, I'm very proud to say, of an expert panel put together by one of our senior fellows, Dr. Stephen Bryan, a former top Reagan administration Pentagon official with me.
It had, as other members of that panel, in addition to a couple of other impressive civilians, The former commanders of U.S.
Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps forces in the Pacific.
These are people who have gone to school on the problem.
And what do they say?
I mean, it's mostly common sense.
They say, we need to exercise leadership.
We need to be arming Taiwan now, not diverting equipment like howitzers that they purchased to Ukraine.
How about that?
We need to have a common operating command structure involving the Taiwanese, yes, but also, you know, the Japanese, the Australians, the Indians, ideally, Philippines.
We ought to actually make sure that we get rid of the strategic ambiguity that we've been practicing, the old Kissinger school, Well, let's not really tell them what we'll do.
Well, that's a surefire formula, especially now for them thinking that we're not going to do anything.
And under Biden, they could well be right.
So these are the sorts of things that we need to get onto.
A whole-of-government approach, Steve.
And more information is available at a terrific webinar we did on this subject at presentdangerchina.org, featuring Steve Bryan.
Seth Cropsey and your own Colonel Grant Newsom.
We've got a terrific rendering of this.
Again, the book is available at Amazon, Stopping a Taiwan Invasion.
steve bannon
I want to put that book everywhere.
And Cropsey, this is the heavies.
Frank, we're going to get the webinar up there.
But I've got to ask you, and you were down there with two of my favorite people, the General and Kyle Bass in Dallas.
What do you make, because I've got all the contact, you know, remember I'm sanctioned for a reason, right?
I know all the different guys, I've talked to everybody.
And I'll be honest with you, nobody can quite figure it out.
What they do know is it's not COVID-19.
They've just announced they shut down a section of Shanghai this morning as we came on the air.
They're in lockdown but they got like super locked down.
Nobody can move and they're going around and they're spraying.
There's something going on there.
And it's not related to COVID-19 as we know COVID-19.
I'm not saying it didn't come out of Wuhan.
I'm not saying it's a COVID-type virus or something else.
In your professional opinion, Frank Gaffney, give me a minute.
You have 400 million people locked down from Guangzhou to Shanghai to Beijing.
400 million people in the most productive side of China in a hard lockdown and no information coming out.
What is it about, sir?
frank gaffney
Well, we can only speculate truthfully, but Kyle Bass, eminent financial genius, and Rob Spalding, former Brigadier General, United States Air Force, Trump strategist, and I had this conversation with the Jewish conservatives of Dallas in which we talked about, among other things, this very question.
I think the general consensus is, Steve, first of all, this is promoting again Locked down in the China model for the next pandemic.
You can be sure about that.
That's part of the play.
The World Health Organization will help initiate if they get more power, especially.
But I think what else is going on is this is partly about Xi demonstrating his ability to exercise control, particularly over Shanghai, where he's got some political opposition.
But it's also about something else.
It's part and parcel of the unrestricted war against the United States because this is making a mess of our supply chains and will have a devastating ripple effect on our economy.
Make no mistake about it.
steve bannon
Economic warfare.
I said you have asset deflation, runaway inflation, you have a supply chain that's in total collapse.
It's in enemy hands.
Frank, real quickly, how do people get to you?
The show's at 11 o'clock every night on REV.
How do people get to you?
frank gaffney
Real America's Voice, 11 o'clock.
Check it out, please.
Prime time elsewhere across the country.
SecuringAmerica.tv is our website.
PresentDangerChina.org.
Great resource on China and my own operation in the Center for Security Policy.
SecureFreedom.org.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Thanks for taking time away.
I got Todd Benz with CIS.
This is nothing but hitters today.
This is like 27 Yankees.
Murders Row.
Benzman, a federal judge just said no child of 42.
Should we go to sleep now and feel better?
That's not going to happen?
todd bensman
No, I mean, Title 42 for all intents and purposes is already off the table because people, migrants, are coming through in very large numbers, even with it in place.
steve bannon
They're allowing people to come into the country right now?
todd bensman
That's right.
steve bannon
Todd Benz, is there an invasion of the United States happening on our southern border?
todd bensman
I'll just say that there is the greatest number of migrants crossing in U.S.
history by far.
We're looking at about 9,000 a day right now.
Remember, Jay Johnson's secretary under... A division in the United States Army is 10,000.
steve bannon
You're saying across our southern border is essentially every day, round up, a division of people are coming across.
todd bensman
Well, the numbers just came out for April.
We're looking at, we saw 234,000.
Come through in four weeks.
We had 219,000 the month before.
We're looking at a couple hundred thousand a month, and that's with Title 42 kind of slowing down.
It's kind of a speed bump.
So the numbers are just beyond American experience.
I say that all the time.
It's true.
But the metrics go far beyond just who's actually reaching the border in terms of the deportation-free zone that was created inside America.
There is no deportation.
steve bannon
What do you mean a deportation-free zone?
todd bensman
Well, the Biden administration at the very beginning of its term changed all the rules for ICE so that ICE could not arrest illegal aliens in the country, even criminal ones.
So the numbers of deportations of criminals Are at all-time lows.
That's a record-breaking number.
The number of slavers is half of what it was in Trump.
The number of murderers... What do you mean slavers?
Because there are illegal aliens who are convicted of Labor trafficking human slavery really and Under Trump, you know, they deported like 50 or 60 of those guys and under Biden.
It's like, you know under 20 Murderers rapists every kind of I'm not being hyperbolic here I mean this is we have data now Center for Immigration Studies put in a FOIA and Got this trove of material that shows who they didn't deport The numbers are astronomical.
Those are record-breaking too.
It's not just who's hitting our borders, it's who's being allowed to stay.
This administration does not regard illegal alien presence as sufficient by itself to deport.
They said so.
They say it out loud.
But they also don't consider aggravated felons Not worthy of deportation either.
So if you're on the Mexican side and you are looking at this deportation-free zone on the American interior, you are going to run for it.
And that's what they're doing.
They're running for it.
steve bannon
We're not demonizing the people who come across.
If all of us were in this situation, you'd be actually... They're the most rational actors in this entire drama.
You would run for the Board of the United States.
Right?
You have literally no downside.
Is that correct?
todd bensman
Well, I mean, even if I was a criminal alien and I saw a chance to get back in right now, I'd do it.
You know, I can demonize those people.
But the majority of them, let's face it, are just economic migrants who are wanting... But economic migrants is, by the way, not a reason to get in line or anything.
steve bannon
There's no asylum criteria for economic migrants, correct?
That's what this is.
It's going to get worse with the collapse of this complex system, which is before us and we talk about every day, is the osmotic pressure, as Brother Michael Yeun, the theory came up, is correct, isn't it?
todd bensman
Yes, it is.
I agree with that.
Look, if you are an economic migrant and you know that there is a legal device, a mechanism that you can access that will get you permanently into the country, you're going to do it.
It's human nature.
steve bannon
It's almost Kafkaesque.
There's no law that says they have to be here.
You've got two minutes on this so you stay through the break.
This is the point I need you to make today, because Mayorkas looks like he's so goofy.
They present on TV to look like it's disorganized and haven't come up with a plan.
This is, from you guys went down and saw where the Blackhawks were in Panama, right outside the Darien Gap.
They have organized the controlled flow of this all the way up from Latin America through Central America.
This is so well thought through.
This is not random.
This did not just happen.
Todd Bensman.
todd bensman
Well, Mayorkas was in Panama recently and also Costa Rica.
Very little reporting on what he cut, what deals he cut with those governments, but it appears to be that they are putting extra grease on the skids.
in those countries so that more migrants, immigrants, can illegally make their way to the U.S.
border than even ordinarily with greater speed, with food, with water, with support.
That's what it looks like that they were doing in Panama.
That's called controlled flow.
It looks like they're expanding the superhighway of controlled flow through those countries really what ought to be happening is the an administration should be trying to stop illegal immigration to the southern border all Democratic presidents have done that this is the first time I've ever I think in history that even a Democrat didn't want that I mean tried to stop this
So we're in like super uncharted territory politically.
steve bannon
And the front line nations, I wanted to have a summit in McAllen, the front line nations down in Central America, that's where you've got to stop this.
Once it's in New Mexico, it's too late, it's too late, it must be stopped there.
For humanitarian reasons too, because once the cartels get them, The human trafficking element of this is so many... we have no earthy idea what percentage actually... how many die.
They're dead in the jungle down there.
They're raped.
The women are raped.
The kids are raped.
unidentified
It's insane.
steve bannon
This is a tragedy brought on...
With your tax dollars paid for by, in the name of the United States government, that's the Kafkaesque nightmare about this.
It could be stopped very easily by action, direct action.
Okay, let's take a short commercial break.
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Real quickly, let's go to... I want to get Ben Harnwell in here.
Ben, give me a couple minutes.
This is Blockbuster News.
You dug it up.
Jeffrey Sachs, the secular pope of science in this country, throwing Fauci, NIH, the Intelligence Agency, the CCP, Wuhan Lab, everybody under the bus in the proceedings of the National Academy of Science, which is high church as far as the scientific community goes.
Sir, what do you got for us?
ben harnwell
Well, it's certainly not the National Enquirist, Steve.
I'm going to do a deeper dive on this in about 20 minutes time at Hanwell on my Getter feed.
But for now, I'm simply going to summarize this article which you just referenced.
I think the big takeaway here is that Jeffrey Sachs basically suggests that after being turned down for funding by the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, which is known as DARPA, turned down for funding from that organization because the research was deemed to be too unsafe, that the NIH went ahead via unspecified funding And did the research themselves.
This is why Jeffrey Sachs wants the investigation.
steve bannon
He did a drive-by on these guys.
OK, Harnwell, what time are you going to be live on Getter today?
Are you going to be on War Room or your channel?
ben harnwell
I'll do it on my channel at Harnwell at around 12.15.
steve bannon
Okay, we want to link to it on War Room and even on mine.
We want to get everybody up there.
Ben Harnwell, thank you.
Okay, there's an invasion on the southern border.
You're the number one guy in the world on this topic.
What warning do you... You're back here in Capitol Hill.
Meet people.
What warning do you have to the war imposi?
Where should they go for information?
What should they do?
How can they help stop this?
todd bensman
Well, for one thing, CIS.org, which is my employer, Center for Immigration Studies, we are producing a ton of critical information right now on this topic.
Right now there is a report, for example, based on our Freedom of Information Act request, Showing how many criminal aliens this administration has left inside the country.
You won't see that anywhere else.
steve bannon
You've got, okay, CIS, and this guy's gotta be, he's red now.
He's become a rock star.
He's gonna even be bigger.
No, Benson, you're the best, because you know why?
You're always working and you're putting your country first.
Here's a question.
Can you name me a Republican politician that is all over CIS information and is out there every day beating the drum on this topic?
todd bensman
There are a few, you know, in the border states.
You know, Tom Cotton is interested in border stuff.
We've got Chip Roy.
steve bannon
Good.
todd bensman
We've got Biggs, Andy Biggs.
steve bannon
Gosar, those guys.
todd bensman
Yeah, Gosar, you know, the crew.
steve bannon
Is this going to flip the vote in the rear?
Are the Hispanic community down in the rear of Grand Valley, South Texas, tired of this?
They're in the front line of this.
Are they tired of it?
todd bensman
Well, we saw traditionally blue districts go red in 2020 down there that have never gone red before, and a whole bunch of other districts that came within a hair of going red.
And I think that they are seeing what's happening People cutting the line by the droves, breaking the rules that they followed, and they're mad about it.
You can see it and feel it down there all the time.
steve bannon
You've dedicated your life to this, and you've been at this for a while.
Could you have ever anticipated in May of 2022 we would be in the situation we are now with this invasion of the southern border?
todd bensman
I've spent a lot of time on the border.
You know, I was a reporter for 20 years and did a lot of reporting on the border back in 2006, 7, 8, 9 during the Civil Drug War.
Then I went into the intelligence business for nine years working for the Texas Department of Public Safety in their intelligence fusion center all about the border.
And between journalism and my intelligence experience, I have never ever seen anything like this.
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I have.
todd bensman
This is something beyond my experience.
It's beyond Guys that are even older than me, who have been down working border patrol and ICE, nobody has ever seen anything like this.
If you could just go down there tonight, if you were in Texas, go down there and you could just watch them just constantly invading.
I mean, I'm hoping Ben is Producing video for you guys.
I mean you have to see it to believe it it is beyond Experience I've never And and it's just gonna get the thing is is it's just getting more aggravated.
It's getting worse With or without Title 42, they can't seem to figure out, this administration, can't seem to connect that their policies trigger.
steve bannon
Oh, they have triggered.
This is planned.
And I'm not a conspiracy theory guy.
This is so well thought through, it could not have happened unless, they know exactly what they're doing.
He's going to get impeached on this.
This is the first thing an impeacher would say.
And he knows, they've hired a lawyer to fight this, internally, the thing.
todd bensman
But I also think that the party and the administration are very worried about midterms, and if they could, they would like to slow this down for the visuals, for the optics on it, and they can't do it because they don't understand that when they say things like, no child will be left behind in Mexico,
For humanitarian grounds that you are you have just invited the entire world of children to Die on the way or to be kidnapped or whatever.
I mean, it's a human it's a humanitarian position to take that Suture the border closed so that we can save lives.
That is the position to take.
steve bannon
We've got to bounce.
Anit, how did it get to your book?
How did they find you?
How did it get you on Getter?
Because this guy is amazing.
I'm more excited about Getter over the weekend.
Captain Ben at home.
We need everybody on Getter because that's where you can follow us 24 hours a day.
How do people get to you?
todd bensman
Thank you.
Yeah, T. Benzman at Getter.
And I'm still on Twitter, BenzmanTodd.
My book is America's Covert Border War, which is relevant right now because we have had 42 terrorists cross the border and this is about that.
steve bannon
Please tell me you're working on another book.
todd bensman
I am working on another book.
I've got it almost done.
It'll publish about this border crisis.
We should publish in the late summer.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to be all over it.
Todd Bensman, you're not only a great reporter, you're a good man.
I tell you, you're a good man, you've got a good heart, and you put your country first, but you see this tragedy, this Shakespearean tragedy, the invasion of our southern border.
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