April 16, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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| Before he had victory over death on Easter morning, And that's where here, Descent into Hell, we've got Jack Masovic and Joe Allen. | ||
| Jack, go back, I wanted to go back, and Joe's going to jump in here for this, because I do want to get into transhumanism and the new Descent into Hell, which is transhumanism. | ||
| We're in a time of war. | ||
| We're at a time of economic carnage in our country. | ||
| Obviously, invasions on the southern border, attack on the family, this madness that they're trying to pour into our children's heads all across the world. | ||
| We're fighting on every front. | ||
| Now, I would say we're winning every front, but it's going to get a lot darker before we start to really turn things around. | ||
| Although, if you put your shoulder to the wheel and stick with it, we're going to win. | ||
| There's no doubt about it. | ||
| But this is, I think, a particularly Interesting Holy Week, because I believe a lot of people are really thinking through how precious this Republic we have and how blessed we are here in the United States. | ||
| I think this is one of the most important Easter seasons we've ever gone through as a country. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| I think we're being tested right now on so many fronts. | ||
| I think that when you look at what we have as a republic, the way that we've been challenged overseas, domestically, the way that the regime has been cracking down, you need Christ. | ||
| You need redemption. | ||
| You need the Redeemer to return. | ||
| You need all of these things. | ||
| And that's what Easter is all about. | ||
| That is the atonement. | ||
| That is the ultimate victory over sin, over death, over Satan himself. | ||
| Your Polish heritage, but also, not that it leads one with a tragic sense of life, even more than your Catholicism does, but It also shows you how quickly it can all get taken away. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I want to go back to Ukraine here. | ||
| Think about Let's go back to June of last year before or May and June before the Afghanistan debacle, because it seems like things have picked up with an accelerating rate since then. | ||
| People are just so shocked and stunned, given everything we committed and done in Afghanistan, how that was handled. | ||
| But even then, you know, there was a lot of debate over Ukraine, obviously tensions over Ukraine. | ||
| But you look at Ukraine today, which looks like Dresden in 1945. | ||
| And think about it was four, five, six months ago. | ||
| And look at today of all the displaced people. | ||
| It shows you it can happen in a second. | ||
| It can all go away very quickly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And when you see what's going on there, obviously Ukraine as Orthodox, their Easter will come a little bit further on. | ||
| My wife is also Orthodox. | ||
| What we do in our family, – we actually celebrate both. | ||
| So we celebrate both the Western and the Eastern, whereas what they would call it Pascha. | ||
| They only call it – they only call it Easter in English, by the way. | ||
| It's probably the only language that uses that, which goes back to the Ostromonth, which is sort of like Germanic translation. | ||
| But every single other country, except for Poland, by the way, pretty much calls it Pascha, which is where we get the phrase the Paschal season, the Paschal history. | ||
| Did I mention the Teutonic Knights? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| And the – and it's, of course, comes from the Greek word pascha, which is going back to pasa or pase, the Hebrew word for the Passover. | ||
| So it really just is referring to the Passover, and that's where we get the Easter season from. | ||
| That's how we date Easter. | ||
| Which is something, by the way, every Easter you always get some of these pop history articles out or somebody, you know, sends some message that, oh, you know, that's all some Babylonian, you know, nonsense. | ||
| It has pagan roots. | ||
| Pagan roots and all, and I mean, that's just complete and utter... About the Messiah that would return from the dead and all that, right? | ||
| Complete nonsense. | ||
| Why do you say that? | ||
| Because when you go into the actual history... Because a lot of the modernists say this is just all myth, and it's myth that's based on pagan myths. | ||
| There was a book that came out right around the same time, 1858, Alexander Hislop, called The Two Babylons, and he was this fundamentalist minister who would go around trying to destroy All of the great traditions that were being held. | ||
| So he attacked Christmas, he attacked Easter, he attacked All Hallows Eve, and he just came up with these hugely fanciful, oh, the eggs and the rabbits, you know, that's all pagan, and the Germanic Oster, right? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| We get the date of Easter, it was called the Paschal Computus, right, in Rome. | ||
| So the idea was, and actually at Nicaea, which of course predominantly dealt with the Arian heresy, they also got into how are we going to set... The Arian heresy being that... That the Trinity is not a Trinity. | ||
| Yes, and that Christ is really not God. | ||
| He's the first created being. | ||
| It's not a trinity, it's a ladder. | ||
| Right, he's the first created being of God, and the Holy Spirit is the spiritual pneuma. | ||
| And this is what Newton believed. | ||
| Newton actually spent two million words deconstructing Deconstructing the Council of Nicaea, and he said that's basically where the church started heading in the wrong direction. | ||
| Did he not? | ||
| That's 100%. | ||
| So Newton, by the way, also, you know, if you look at Newton, in terms of all this... The smartest guy in human history, correct? | ||
| The guy who, you know, essentially, and I think they come down to saying that, you know, even though there are multiple people who claim to have developed calculus, that when he was writing, He wasn't, you know, this wasn't like he's going on the internet and you can look it up on Wikipedia or something. | ||
| He was working, this is when he had already left Cambridge at this point, and so he's working completely independently, just looking at the world, looking at the stars, invented his own telescope, one of the first optical telescopes. | ||
| Just look at the processes of nature. | ||
| And he understands nature and gives you the calculations. | ||
| Gives you the math underneath it. | ||
| But he viewed all of that. | ||
| By the way, he didn't even write that down until somebody came to meet him. | ||
| And they said, what are you doing? | ||
| I was a hobby. | ||
| I came up with this math stuff. | ||
| But he didn't view that as his work. | ||
| He viewed that as his hobby. | ||
| His side hustle. | ||
| His work he viewed as theology. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Two million words. | ||
| He viewed himself as a theologian. | ||
| There's a lot of controversy about the alchemy and, you know, in modern biographies always talk about, well, he wrote at night. | ||
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John Maynard Keynes, who bought the writings. | |
| The writings came up in the mid-1930s, which was two million words that they had come up with that Newton, while he was at Cambridge and then afterwards, he took a job. | ||
| When he's at the Mint. | ||
| He took a job as head of the rural Mint, which is the bureaucrat. | ||
| He was part of the administrative state. | ||
| And there's all kind of controversies about why he went back. | ||
| Head of the Fed. | ||
| Well, he'd be down, he'd be a couple of levels. | ||
| He actually didn't say how many we can mint. | ||
| He was actually making sure that they were the best. | ||
| But Boyle and a lot of the great scientists all formed the Rural Society. | ||
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But he looked at himself as a, I don't think. | |
| Boyle was against him. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I don't think he looked at himself as a theologian. | ||
| He looked at himself as someone who was in a search for truth and he spent the better part of his life studying all this. | ||
| And part of this got back to the Modernists, like John Murray Keynes, Keynesian economics, the father, he was, especially when you talk about the Fed, so again Keynes also connected these. | ||
| Keynes said that... Keynes realized how important these writings were, that's why he went to the auction to buy them. | ||
| Even though Newton is seen as the greatest mind, or clearly the most prominent mind of the Renaissance, Keynes looks at the writings and he says... The Enlightenment. | ||
| Oh, the Enlightenment. | ||
| He says, I don't know if Isaac Newton was the first man of reason, but he may have been the last of the magicians. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Very powerful. | ||
| I want to go back to Katherine and Emmer. | ||
| They're beatified. | ||
| But by the way, before I get too far, the Easter bunny and the Easter eggs. | ||
| I gotta do this. | ||
| You gotta let me do the Easter eggs. | ||
| Easter eggs was because originally during the Lenten fast you couldn't eat any Animal product. | ||
| It wasn't just meat. | ||
| So meat, milk, and eggs. | ||
| So all the peasants, right, for 40 days, you're not eating any of that. | ||
| You're getting vegetables, you're getting bread, maybe some corn. | ||
| And the peasants were not vegans? | ||
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No. | |
| And you're putting in a full day's work, too. | ||
| Oh yeah, you're not working. | ||
| You're still working. | ||
| You're not taking off from work. | ||
| So Aquinas even wrote about this in Summa Theologica. | ||
| And so eggs coming back on the table was a huge deal after the 40 days of the fast. | ||
| None of this any connection to any sort of historic practice involving the decoration of eggs for any kind of pagan. | ||
| And the same deal with the Easter bunny. | ||
| I mean, it's just a symbol of spring. | ||
| And so when the rabbit started appearing, people would say, oh, that's a sign that Easter is coming. | ||
| It's really as simple as that. | ||
| Okay, I want to get to the herring of hell, but I want to do it by going back to her writings. | ||
| We're giving you a heads up of what this movie is going to be like. | ||
| I think... Spoiler alert! | ||
| That Mel Gibson and the team pull it together, and Jim Caviezo I know pretty well. | ||
| I've heard, I have heard through some of my production world contacts, that there was that TikTok video that came out of him down in Mexico, and he was like changing the tires, you see that one? | ||
| And the guy meets him and he says, hey, you're Mel Gibson? | ||
| You know, I can trust you. | ||
| And he looks at the guy and he goes, what if I rob you? | ||
| You know, in classic Mel Gibson fashion, always on. | ||
| The reason, they said, well, nobody asked why was Mel Gibson in Mexico in the first place. | ||
| What I had heard is that he's down there on pre-pro, that he's looking to actually film this down in Mexico. | ||
| You know, the original one was shot in southern Italy because they had to go back to the Roman. | ||
| They wanted to get ruins that were as close to Judea as possible. | ||
| I mean, the original was so Finally crafted from a craftsman's point of view. | ||
| And people have to remember, he was not just turned down by every studio for the production. | ||
| A lot of them just said, don't even bring this thing to us. | ||
| Because he had a script based upon Emmerich, but written himself over, I think, 20 years that cut to the core of it. | ||
| And even people read it and said, well, this is going to be X-rated. | ||
| He says, yeah, probably. | ||
| The one thing that I do take a little bit of issue with is, so I had seen that movie and we watch it. | ||
| We watch it every Easter. | ||
| We're getting ready to watch it. | ||
| We're going to an Easter play either tonight or tomorrow. | ||
| We're not sure which one. | ||
| And we're definitely going to watch Passion. | ||
| But the one thing that I do take a little issue with... So Tanya and I took our honeymoon in Jerusalem. | ||
| So we go there. | ||
| We're going to all the sites, every single one of the stations of the cross. | ||
| And there's a chapel that's actually built on every single site of the actual station of the cross. | ||
| The Via. | ||
| Via Della Rosa. | ||
| So we go to the Via Della Rosa. | ||
| And what I've never seen depicted in any of these films, maybe some of the older ones, is the Via Della Rosa is one of the steepest roads that you've ever walked up in your whole life. | ||
| It's never been shown. | ||
| And they never show it that way. | ||
| You're talking about how you gotta actually get up the Calvary. | ||
| This thing is, you know, the actual road, it's not the road, it's, I mean, this thing is a hill, this is a hike, right? | ||
| You are putting in, you know, talk about, you know, if you got one of those You've got a wolf or something that's tracking your fitness. | ||
| It is a hike just to walk up that thing, you know, carrying a backpack or, you know, on a normal Sunday morning, right? | ||
| To be able to carry a giant cross that's sturdy and strong enough to be able to support a human body all the way up that hill. | ||
| I mean, the sheer weight of that alone might kill you. | ||
| Just having to be forced to do that. | ||
| So when they explain, now the three falls make so much sense, right? | ||
| So not only did they clearly beat him mercilessly with discouraging the pillar, but you understand very quickly why he goes all the way up. | ||
| To the cross, that he's falling, that he's barely making it and needs to wipe himself. | ||
| This is one of the steepest hurdles. | ||
| Well, not just St. | ||
| Veronica, but also St. | ||
| Simon has to come in and help. | ||
| Has to come in and help. | ||
| He would have died. | ||
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Easily. | |
| You physically would not be able to do it. | ||
| He would have died. | ||
| Easily. | ||
| He would have died. | ||
| You physically would not be able to do it. | ||
| No man would be able to do that and survive. | ||
| That's why, and Gibson doesn't show the elevation, right, of how steep it actually is. | ||
| It's insanely steep. | ||
| None of the films have shown that. | ||
| No, I was not prepared for that at all. | ||
| Because, I mean, obviously you know at the end there's a hill, right? | ||
| The Place of the Skull, Golgotha, and the Church of the Holy Supper occurs now. | ||
| Also, you know, for the real crusade, not this Teutonic nonsense. | ||
| And when you look at the actual The foot of the cross, and that's where, by the way, when Christ asks to have the drink of wine at the end. | ||
| Because you remember, during the Last Supper, Christ refuses, I will not drink the feudal divine. | ||
| He refuses the final cup. | ||
| He didn't ask for wine, he asked for water, didn't he? | ||
| At the very, very end. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He refuses it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| During the Passover meal. | ||
| Why? | ||
| During the Last Supper. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Because it continues up until the final cup of Passover is the cup of culmination. | ||
| Jack Pasovic. | ||
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Boy, Media Matters is going to have a... I can't wait till Media Matters sees this one. | |
| They're going to get all over Jack. | ||
| Poor Pasovic. | ||
| Okay, short break. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| I'll take this one. | ||
| I'll take this one all day long. | ||
| Descent into Hell, Joe Allen, Jack Pasovic, Steve Bannon. | ||
| We're going to take a short break. | ||
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the vacuum of it. | |
| All my fear assaults the sky. | ||
| I want to talk just briefly about Lee Greenwood. | ||
| We've got a partnership with Lee Greenwood on God Bless the USA Bible. | ||
| This is his publisher, the great Lee Greenwood, went with this idea of putting the King James Version of the Old and New Testament together with the founding documents. | ||
| Of course, his publisher, upon further review and thinking that Lee Greenwood had been a supporter of President Trump, said, you know, we're going to pass. | ||
| Of course, this publisher is the same one that published the Satanic Bible. | ||
| They were cool with that. | ||
| So Lee Greenwood, we've partnered with his marketing company. | ||
| And go to GodBlessTheUSABible.com. | ||
| You put in promo code WORM, you get free shipping and handling. | ||
| Go check it out today. | ||
| It's something that you'll want to get for the entire... | ||
| Family. | ||
| Also, we have a correction. | ||
| It is not water. | ||
| It is wine mixed with... Wine mixed with Mark. | ||
| According to Mark. | ||
| According to Mark. | ||
| Mark's my guy. | ||
| Catherine and Emmerich. | ||
| Christ returning in victory. | ||
| Not returning. | ||
| Christ going to... Descending. | ||
| Descending to hell in victory. | ||
| With the angels. | ||
| With the angels. | ||
| Flanking him. | ||
| Walk how she describes it. | ||
| So this is the way Blessed Catherine Emmerich describes it according to the translation. | ||
| When the angels that were escorting Jesus knocked down the infernal walls of hell, a storm rose up of curses, insults, shrieks, and laments. | ||
| Several angels elsewhere chased endless swarms of demons, those who would have then had to recognize and adore the Redeemer, because He holds dominion over them and over all things. | ||
| This was their worst torment. | ||
| Many of them then became imprisoned in a sort of sphere, which resulted in concentric sectors. | ||
| At the center of the inferno, a dark pit sank where Lucifer was hurled in chains, and who was immersed in dark, angry vapors. | ||
| All of this occurred according to determined divine ministries. | ||
| And then finally, I know that Lucifer will be unchained for some time, 50 or 60 years before the year 2000 of Christ, if I do not err. | ||
| Some demons instead are to be loosened before that epoch in order to castigate and exterminate the worldly. | ||
| Some of them will be unleashed in our days. | ||
| Remember, she's writing this in 1819. | ||
| While I deal with this topic, the infernal scenes I saw were so hard in front of my eyes that the sight of them could even make me die. | ||
| Give me the line again about 50 to 60 years before. | ||
| 50 or 60 years before the year 2000 of Christ. | ||
| You're talking 1940. | ||
| A.K.A. | ||
| 1939. | ||
| Pretty good pick. | ||
| Pretty good pick on the beginning of... So she calls it about 120 years... Keep in mind, this is prior to the Civil War, prior to the Napoleonic Wars, prior to... No, she's just at the end of the Napoleonic Wars. | ||
| Just the end of the Napoleonic Wars. | ||
| Prior to World War I. I know you Poles are very particular about the Napoleonic Wars. | ||
| He's in the Polish National Anthem. | ||
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He is! | |
| Anybody take on the Prussians in the British Year 4? | ||
| Well, for the Poles, it's Poland first. | ||
| Poland first. | ||
| I want to bring in Joe for a second here and talk about this whole concept of modernity, post-modernity. | ||
| Artificial intelligence, everything we talk about, you know, we continue to quote, I think it's Mark 13, and we're not theologians, obviously, we're just working steps like everybody on this topic, but Mark actually, in Mark, Christ says there's only one sin that's unforgivable, and that is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit. | ||
| One immortal sin, one mortal sin, one eternal sin is to mock the Holy Spirit. | ||
| Is artificial intelligence, we talk about the harrowing of hell, is artificial intelligence, is that the portal now to the new descent into hell? | ||
| And man's not going in victory, but is that open up a whole world of not just demons, but things even worse than that, that we're not prepared for and man's not prepared for, Joe Allen. | ||
| You know, everything that traditionalists call demons basically manifest in that realm. | ||
| Angels as well, although in my experience I think pretty much all creations that end up in that virtual environment pale in comparison to the angelic images, whereas the demons Well, it's pretty convincing. | ||
| Is artificial intelligence a portal to hell? | ||
| Now that's a theological question, and I am not going to be able to answer whether or not there is a literal portal to hell in your computer screen, but I will say that on a symbolic level, it is absolutely spot-on. | ||
| You're talking about the manifestation of something like The Holy Spirit. | ||
| If, you know, invoking and trapping the Holy Spirit in silicon is an unforgivable sin, then that is definitely one being committed in Silicon Valley. | ||
| What you have with artificial intelligence and the way that a lot of the people who work in it, and especially the visionaries who describe the sort of transhuman and post-human futures, when they talk about artificial intelligence, they talk about it as if these These programs, these mathematical equations are themselves entities, and of course there's the hope of making them conscious. | ||
| So I don't really, without again making a strong statement on the actual theology of whether Satan is in possession of Silicon Valley or whether Mara from Buddhism or Iblis from Islam is in charge of all of it, I can say without a doubt | ||
| That the project of creating superhuman powers, which will make very vital decisions on the behalf of human beings throughout society, oftentimes without their own choice, without their own volition, Nothing strikes me as being more satanic. | ||
| Nothing strikes me as being more terrifying on a physical or even metaphysical level than knowing that some of the richest, most powerful men on the earth are funding the creation of incarnate, or I guess you could say, discarnate beings who incarnate through computer screens. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds like a portal to hell to me, but that's my artistic opinion. | ||
| Not my theological one. | ||
| Well, we do know that in traditional doctrine, the ideas of when dealing with the demonic, and this is something, by the way, that I feel like the Western church and a lot of these progressive churches just completely eschew, right? | ||
| You know, they say, well, are you saved? | ||
| Are you saved? | ||
| Are you saved? | ||
| And you say, right, I was saved by Christ, but saved from what? | ||
| Saved from what? | ||
| And so, the scholarly discussion, right, it's considered untoward, it's considered, you know, not something you could talk about at the fancy country club, you know, Cardinal Dolan's not going to be getting into that. | ||
| But when you actually delve into this, every parish, every diocese at least, is supposed to have, or even an archdiocese, is supposed to have an exorcist. | ||
| And in the ideas within doctrinal possession, right, the doctrine on possession, It's not like a movie where you go into the haunted house and the house is evil like in Stephen King and The Shining. | ||
| It's the idea that you've invited or invoked something in. | ||
| And you're tempted, of course, obviously, through sin. | ||
| But it's always through the gain of power, the gain of influence, the gain of function. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Gain of function. | ||
| uh... the gain of abilities to do more here in the earthly realm you can cheat to get ahead right and this is where this is where crowley came in that's why i mean explain who else to crowley is for the you know i i i actually i think i can hit that they're going to hit that they're going to hit up you know yet that that prophecy that you just described uh... roughly two thousand forty i think that's really fascinating in light of uh... gary lachman's work You know, we were talking about Lachman yesterday, I think. | ||
| He's written a number of wonderful books about Rudolf Steiner. | ||
| He actually wrote a book that references Steve, but his book Turn Off Your Mind, The Dark Side of the Mystic Sixties, describes the progression of the sort of manifestation of a satanic culture through comic books, through rock and roll, through movies, and he traces a direct line | ||
| From Alistair Crowley, who in 1904, if I recall correctly, penned, over the course of three days, the Book of the Law, which was supposedly transmitted to him by some sort of non-corporeal deity. | ||
| Now, the Book of the Law is where you get the idea of do what thou wilt. | ||
| Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. | ||
| And what Lackmann does is he traces not just the idea of do what thou wilt without regard to divine dictates or holy order, he traces culturally a line from Alistair Crowley up through writers like, well, in particular, Timothy Leary, who had enormous influence over the cultural revolution that ensued throughout the 60s, | ||
| and where you saw a lot of what would become these sort of depraved sexual acts really coming into the public mindset and spreading around the society. | ||
| Then he traces that down, basically he ends the story at Charles Manson and the Manson family killings. | ||
| And I think that that prophecy, while, you know, 2000, I mean, I'm sorry, 1940, 1930, 1904, 1960, what it does show, I think, is this awareness on the part of religious people in her time, and really as the modern era arose, the awareness that all of the traditional structures of society were being destroyed. | ||
| And they were being replaced by this really libertine sort of ethos that allowed people, at least who had the wealth and power, to do what they will, to do whatever they want. | ||
| And the abuse of that power has been manifest throughout the last 30, 40, 50 years in ways that technology really has only made possible. | ||
| Yeah, Joe, that's also where we get this sort of idea that, you know, that Woodstock, so Woodstock of 1969 was somehow the pinnacle of human existence, right? | ||
| One of the most, um, just depraved, degenerate, uh, the sexual assaults that were going on, the drugs that were going on, um, the violence that happened. | ||
| Saved by the fire. | ||
| All of which is, is just completely never discussed anymore. | ||
| Saved by the police, the local police and fire department that were able to help the kids there. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Revolt against the modern world. | ||
| This is what we're discussing. | ||
| Also, I want to bring up, when we come back, how modern secular humanists and also many, many, many Christians will be belly laughing right now about the whole concept of hell. | ||
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| That you're actually, you guys are in fantasyland, you're in your own Christian comic book, right? | ||
| Okay, short break. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| Joe Allen, Jack Pasovic, Steve Bannon in a moment. | ||
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So stand in peace. | |
| So stand in peace. | ||
| Praise to joy of man's design. | ||
| Holy wisdom of God's plan. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| This is the War Room, Descent into Hell, the most somber day of the Christian calendar in the Judeo-Christian West. | ||
| We're at spiritual war, and so every day we try to put it out there, exactly what we're fighting for. | ||
| I want to go back to this thing about transhumanism and this new philosophy predicated upon... New Babylon. | ||
| New Babylon, postmodernism. | ||
| Joe, you have now almost, I guess, gone on two years or a year and a half, every day documented this for folks in the War Room. | ||
| And you're, I should tell people, you've gotten quite an audience of very sophisticated people reach out to us and want you to come and give private talks and private lectures that they're amazed by this. | ||
| When you go to those lectures, I get feedback all the time that people are absolutely amazed. | ||
| And it kind of stuns me, Jack, something this important, And remember, we're not conspiracy theory people here, but something that this is fundamental to mankind, given everything else that's going on, is not at the centerpiece of the debate that we have today. | ||
| That you have all these different technologies, from CRISPR and biotechnology to quantum computing to advanced robotics. | ||
| I mean, we put up the dog the other day that they have in Shanghai, the robot dog, and I got so much, people freaked out. | ||
| And that looks like, by the way, those, you know, so I lived in Shanghai for two years, and those apartment buildings, those neighborhoods, I mean, that's exactly what it looked like where I lived. | ||
| You know, I'm trying to go through and see, like, is that my neighborhood, actually, with these dogs walking around and all the crazy, and the drones coming, the people screaming, people jumping off. | ||
| That's a world that forgot God. | ||
| That is hell. | ||
| That's what they're saying now. | ||
| That is hell. | ||
| This is the point I'm trying to get to. | ||
| Joe Allen, when you see modern Shanghai, and they're in those high-rise buildings that were built by the Communist Party for post-modern man to live in, you're locked in there, you've got a pandemic in the streets, you're cut off from food, and they've got robot dogs. | ||
| 26 million people in the largest and wealthiest city of mainland China. | ||
| 26 million. | ||
| And those dogs are going, what are those dogs saying? | ||
| If you don't speak Chinese, it's chilling just the way it's got the female voice. | ||
| The one that I heard was saying, from the city government, you are required to stay in your homes, you will be told when the new system is coming out, and then it just starts repeating over and over. | ||
| But it's always this hyper-happy, hyper-friendly voice. | ||
| Like a Tokyo Rose. | ||
| Joe Allen. | ||
| You know, the moment I realized that things had gone real south at the beginning of the pandemic, you know, it was always kind of questionable as how far they would go. | ||
| But when you saw drones being deployed, I think in New Jersey, if I'm not mistaken, Massachusetts, the Northeast, and then eventually across the states, I think 20 states were given drones by DGI Enterprises in China. | ||
| And when you saw drones in America floating over crowds of people, Giving them orders to socially distance, giving them orders to be sure to mask up. | ||
| You knew that the powers that be... | ||
| Basically had decided that they were going to push the limits of the American populace as far as they could go. | ||
| I mean, this is a technology that allows anyone who has control over the drone to spy at a distance on other people. | ||
| It's, I think, a very pernicious technology in general. | ||
| And then also this whole notion of having robots ...deployed around a society and given orders, Americans would have never, ever taken that were it not for the fear of the pandemic driving them to accept all these excessive measures. | ||
| And now you see two years later in Shanghai, you know, you've got this robotic dog roaming around doing the same as you got all the videos of the drones floating around from apartment to apartment doing the same thing. | ||
| I mean, what you have there is the realization, not of transhumanism really, but just technocracy in general. | ||
| I think the real danger of transhumanism immediately is this idea that technology will lead us towards this utopia, or at least lead us to be ... It will be the central tool to lead us to be better people. | ||
| The connections of the internet, or even just the ability of medication to solve people's mental trouble, this will all lead us to be better people. | ||
| Then on into the future, where we're basically fused with the machine biologically. | ||
| What you see in Shanghai, though, is just the rampant abuse of authority by way of technology. | ||
| I don't know, Jack would probably be much better able to answer this question, and I'm actually curious. | ||
| I don't know if this would be possible without technology, without surveillance technologies, without the ability to track and trace all the people in the population. | ||
| But I suspect that that really is what has emboldened governments across the planet. | ||
| The ability to monitor their citizens, and in particular the ability to control them through propaganda or through direct measures. | ||
| All of that's enabled, at least by technology, in much more sophisticated ways. | ||
| And that's the expression of it. | ||
| That's the manifestation of this abusive power. | ||
| Well, believe it or not, Joe, I mean, this really is just a continuation of a tradition that's going on in China for a long time since the founding and the establishment of the CCP. | ||
| They always had sort of a minder from the party that was the party representative for your work unit, for your school, for your block, for each one of those apartment buildings would have someone that would be the representative of the party. | ||
| And they're keeping an eye On not just, you know, who's getting out of line from a political perspective, of course they're going to keep in line for that, but they're keeping an eye on who's going to what school, who's dating, who's getting married, right, who's having, you know, the one child, making sure they only have one child. | ||
| So this idea, and they're making reports to the local district. | ||
| But also who's becoming, remember, both the Bolsheviks and the CCP went after the same thing. | ||
| They went after what they call the kulaks. | ||
| This was the senior peasants that had some leadership, that had some civic... It's this audience. | ||
| Our audience is a Kulak audience. | ||
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Those people that lived in the villages... They would never really define what a Kulak is. | |
| Yeah, but the definition was who they went after. | ||
| And that's the people in the local communities. | ||
| You're like a peasant that's taken one step up. | ||
| It's a step, but it's the people that people in the community look to. | ||
| They're the people that are squared away. | ||
| They kind of knit civic society together. | ||
| That's what they want, to basically have the state. | ||
| And that's why, whether it's the robot dog or the local minder, they're always keeping track of who the people that they look up to are. | ||
| And what the party does, by the way, at least for the CCP, what they do is when you're on your way to that position or when you've kind of started to become established, that's when the party reaches out to you and they hand you a membership packet. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| You don't have a choice. | ||
| You don't have a choice. | ||
| You're a member. | ||
| They're telling you you're going to join. | ||
| Joe Allen, I want to start with you. | ||
| In this conversation we've had today, and going back to Catherine and Emmerich and some of the visions, and you've had Blake and so many of the artists in the Judeo-Christian West, although some of them were not direct followers of the Word of God, this whole concept of hell, there are not just I still, even though, um, Bosch, I love that, the tri-panel. | ||
| Hieronymus Bosch, yeah. | ||
| But my point is, so many, not just secular humanists, atheists, modernists, post-modernists, but many Christians and particularly more liberal, I guess, Well, Steve, what it is, you've gotten this progressive Christianity is now, it's like Omicron Christianity, right? | ||
| to be mentioned. And the manifestation of hell is literally, you're a bunch of coops. | ||
| Well, Steve, what it is, you've gotten this progressive Christianity is now, it's like Omicron Christianity, right? In the sense that it's the weakest, most, you know, stripped away from, you know, forget about the Old Testament, just, you know, they toss that, and they toss most of the Acts of the Apostles. | ||
| It's social justice warrior. | ||
| It's just social justice. | ||
| You get hippie Jesus. | ||
| You basically get hippie Jesus. | ||
| So, you know, you guys are talking about... | ||
| You're talking about the descent into hell. | ||
| If I can describe a quick descent into hell, that was attending the School of Theology at Boston University. | ||
| And I've been many times exposed to postmodernist thinking and, you know, within academia, people who really adhere to postmodernism as a philosophy. | ||
| But I'd never actually seen it affect a social structure, at least that I was aware of. | ||
| And when I saw the way in which the Christians at the School of Theology at Boston University, oftentimes invoking Martin Luther King or Harvey Milk or people like that, what they did, basically, is they took a post-modernist framework that people could be whoever they wanted to be, that everything is socially constructed, including the Bible, But they weren't really ready to let go of the Bible. | ||
| In fact, I would say that many of them, the more cynical among them, were just simply using the narratives and the symbols of the Bible and of Christianity in order to enact this sort of postmodernist and hard leftist agenda. | ||
| So, one of the most bizarre encounters I had at Boston University, I think, was simultaneously with condemning all of these sort of traditionalist thinkers as being utter racists, or at that time it was very fashionable condemning Donald Trump and all of his followers as racist. | ||
| And at the same time, it was totally acceptable to put up a sort of art exhibit which depicted Jesus as transgender. | ||
| And I mean, it was just really bizarre, sort of voodoo-like icons. | ||
| It was obviously a sort of George Floyd Jesus painting. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, and all of that really feeds into the same thing. | ||
| Basically, they want to stuff whatever marginalized personality that gives them power into that Jesus painting. | ||
| You can't bury the lead here. | ||
| Go back to Boston. | ||
| I saw the George Floyd over at Catholic U, a bastion of advanced traditional Catholic thinking. | ||
| Oh, yes, of course. | ||
| Walk me through this again. | ||
| At Boston University, what was the art about Jesus? | ||
| Yeah, it was one of the prospective seminarians there had constructed this, and he was, of Transgender went by they and all this sort of stuff. | ||
| They had constructed a transgender Jesus display. | ||
| And this is really common, I think, you know, among the sort of post-modernist Christians that are at, say, Union in New York, certainly Harvard Divinity School, and then Boston University, which is always trying to keep up with Harvard Divinity School. | ||
| And in Berkeley, all these places. | ||
| So, you've got this idea that Jesus basically is this empty vessel that can be filled with any marginalized identity. | ||
| So, why not a transgender Jesus? | ||
| Why not a gay Jesus? | ||
| Why not a black Jesus? | ||
| So on and so forth. | ||
| And I found it myself, you know, not being particularly traditionalist, at least in my outward life, I was completely horrified and disgusted, if nothing else, by the hypocrisy of the whole thing. | ||
| Because they were constantly trying to figure out ways to condemn others and basically defying the whole non-judgmental ethos that Jesus preached. | ||
| And yet, at the same time, they wanted to hide behind Jesus as this sort of spiritual pillar that they could invoke at their leisure. | ||
| Tolerance is not one of Christian virtue. | ||
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When I say non-judgmental, I don't want to push that one too far. | |
| When I say non-judgmental, I mean, obviously, when Jesus said, pull the plank out of your own eye, he meant it, right? | ||
| Like you're supposed to remove the sin from yourself before judging others, but clearly that doesn't mean total non-judgmentalism, right? | ||
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Anyway, before we get into it, let's take a short break. | |
| We'll be back with Descent into Hell, the special Saturday special here on Holy Saturday in the War Room. | ||
| Back in a minute. | ||
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| Okay, welcome back to, um... | ||
| you Welcome back to more of a pandemic. | ||
| This is our special Descent into Hell. | ||
| I want to thank you for being here on Saturday with us. | ||
| 16 April, Year of the Lord 2022. | ||
| It's Holy Week. | ||
| Tomorrow's Easter. | ||
| Joe Allen, Posobiec had just said at the beginning of this that this he thinks, given everything that's going on in the world, that this is one of the most important Holy Weeks we've had in Easter celebrations. | ||
| What say you, sir? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You know, two years ago, at this time two years ago, people would have been preparing to go celebrate Good Friday in their churches, but instead were by and large barred from their churches across the planet. | ||
| I think that's probably, in the history of world religions, one of the most significant moments and saddest moments. | ||
| April of 2020 because you had suddenly this ancient right severed. | ||
| From its continuity. | ||
| I've asked a number of priests if they could think of similar examples in history, and there's absolutely nothing on a global scale that comes even close. | ||
| And to the extent that you believe that these rites hold true value, and that the rites of Easter, the rites of Christmas, or the rites of the Buddhists, the Hindus, so on and so forth, to the extent you believe these have true value and true power, That was the most significant impact to have ever been, you know, dealt to religious systems across the planet. | ||
| So now, you know, last year the churches were opening back up. | ||
| This year I assume that they will be filled maybe like never before. | ||
| And so, that power and that value is being able to reassert itself now. | ||
| I think it's profoundly positive, especially given all of the threats and all the dangers and all the darkness, which I'm obviously tasked to follow. | ||
| Even given all that darkness, I think that there is actually a real hope swelling in religious communities, and I think that this Easter will be a chance to express that. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| How do people follow you on social media, sir? | ||
| Cyborg Social Media at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z. | ||
| Also my website, joebot.xyz. | ||
| And of course, always look for stuff at the War Room. | ||
| So thank you very much, fellas. | ||
| Happy Easter. | ||
| Jack Posobiec. | ||
| So I've got a little bit of a War Room joke. | ||
| Can I tell a joke in the War Room, Steve? | ||
| You can. | ||
| Have you ever heard the one about what would happen If God came on the war room and was being interviewed by Steve Bannon? | ||
| So there was a tweet about this a couple of months ago, and I stuck with it. | ||
| I'm adding it to the repertoire. | ||
| And so they say, so God comes on the war room and is being interviewed by Steve Bannon, and God says, well, Steve, and then I created the heavens, and I created the earth. | ||
| Populate the animals. | ||
| And on the sixth day, create the humans. | ||
| And on the seventh day, I rested. | ||
| And then... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait! | ||
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Hold up! | |
| Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! | ||
| You're burying the lead! | ||
| You're burying the lead! | ||
| You're doing all these wondrous things. | ||
| You're creating the heavens. | ||
| You're creating the earth. | ||
| And then what? | ||
| You just stop? | ||
| Break that down for me. | ||
| Explain that to me. | ||
| Why are you doing that? | ||
| And then God goes out and explains it. | ||
| And at the end, of course, Steve goes, all right, God, give us your coordinates. | ||
| Where can people get in contact with you? | ||
| How can they get it? | ||
| We're going to put in all the telegrams. | ||
| You can put in all the chats. | ||
| And God goes, You're kidding, right? | ||
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That's a great joke. | |
| I'm going to use that one. | ||
| Well, if any ever comes on. | ||
| You said at the beginning of this, God is in the worm every day, the Spirit of God. | ||
| Number 2 or 3? | ||
| You said that this was the most important. | ||
| I believe it is. | ||
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| The story of the descent into hell, the point of the story is the victory over hell, the victory over the grave, the victory over death, the victory over the power of sin. | ||
| We had the fall of man, but prior to that we had the fall of a third of the angels, the fall of Lucifer, right? | ||
| The battle of heaven. | ||
| Christ's victory over hell is a sign of hope for all of us, really. | ||
| That no matter how dark it gets, no matter how bleak it gets, no matter what you're dealing with in your personal life or when you're looking at, and obviously on War Room or on any of the shows, you know, we deal with some very heavy stuff, right? | ||
| And there's real sacrifices and real trauma and horrific things going on in this world. | ||
| There always have been. | ||
| It's a light. | ||
| It is a flickering candle of light that will turn even brighter than the fires of hell. | ||
| That's what Easter is all about. | ||
| Jack Posobiec, wonderful job. | ||
| Thank you so much for doing this. | ||
| Denver, thank you so much for everything to help us put this on, and a very special weekend to our entire audience. | ||
| Tomorrow is Victory Over the Grave. | ||
| It's Easter Sunday. | ||
| Jack Posobiec, how do people get to you? | ||
| At Jack Posobiec, tour to Getter, Human Events Daily, wherever you get your podcasts. | ||
| And we're going to be on Getter for the entire weekend, so make sure you check us out there, Jack Posobiec. | ||
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24-7. | |
| Posobiec, thank you so much for coming and have a great Easter with the Tani and the family. | ||
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Happy Easter, Steve. | |
| Happy Easter, sir. | ||
| Dawn, my dear, our souls are spanning, |
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