April 8, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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The virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| Thanks to Real America's Voice, John Frederick's Radio Network, G News, the guys at Mandarin. | ||
| In fact, our new Getter app has, I think, in five or six languages. | ||
| I've got to get that figured out. | ||
| Okay, I'll get that figured out. | ||
| I think it has five or six languages right now. | ||
| I want to thank everybody for all this and all the distribution help to make this one of the biggest shows in the world, but more importantly, the most powerful, and that's because of the audience. | ||
| You guys are actively engaged. | ||
| Matthew Tierman, listen, the University of Chicago is a thought leader in this nation, one of the best universities out there. | ||
| We've got Natalie Winters from the National Pulse, right, and she was hitting this when she was a college, when she was an undergraduate. | ||
| You got the great Darren Beattie, who's speechwriter for President Trump and now runs Revolver. | ||
| Matthew Tierman, one of our contributors here on War Room. | ||
| Who was the young man And Axelrod has turned this into a breeding ground for the next generation of Barack Obamas. | ||
| But who was the young man that asked that brilliant question? | ||
| So, you know, unknown. | ||
| He's a freshman. | ||
| It tells you about the intellectual stock at UChicago. | ||
| His name is Daniel Schmidt. | ||
| We've got to find him and recruit him. | ||
| There's another student, also a freshman, who yesterday, the day after, he asked Brian Stelter a similar question. | ||
| You know, and these people are tongue-tied. | ||
| They did not expect that they'd be going into anything but super friendly ground, given that this is David Axelrod's quote-unquote Institute of Politics think tank. | ||
| You know, I got into an argument with the former president of the university a few years ago at an alumni event over the IOP. | ||
| They've read it as a nonpartisan think tank, but I mean, when they have Republicans, it's Tom Cotton and Lindsey Graham. | ||
| It's not, they won't have populists, they won't have fire breathers, they don't want to undermine their messaging. | ||
| And that's why they have people like Ann Applebaum. | ||
| Ann Applebaum has been going to war against the Hunter Biden narrative from the beginning. | ||
| She wrote an Atlantic hit piece on me, starting about me and others and you and Jack Maxey and the laptop in October 2020. | ||
| And it was sort of like the whole piece was the miasma of disinformation. | ||
| Meanwhile, it was all validated stuff. | ||
| You know, I broke the Bevan Cooney emails with you guys on this show, and she wanted to attack me. | ||
| Now, her and I have some serious history. | ||
| I exposed a lot of the corruption around her and her husband in Poland. | ||
| They got turfed out. | ||
| They've been writing lies. | ||
| Hey, I wrote for Breitbart about her, and then I got labeled an anti-Semite, and I'm Jewish. | ||
| So it tells you they're intellectually dishonest. | ||
| You were a little bit annoyed about that one. | ||
| I remember the Breitbart one. | ||
| Let's put up, Denver's got the cover of the book. | ||
| She is, and I'm a big fan of her writings, because she's written some of the best works about Eastern Europe. | ||
| I know, I'm going to give you your shot, I'm going to give you your shot. | ||
| If we can get the cover up, I keep telling people, I think this is a masterpiece, Stalin's Ukraine War, to really understand what, About this whole conflict today, I think you have to understand, not just the history of Ukraine and Russia, but the history particularly in the 20th century, the 1930s, you know, when Lou Gehrig was winning batting titles and Joe DiMaggio was coming to Frank Sinatra, and we had the Depression here and a lot of tough times, but America was still safe and secure. | ||
| They were killing, what, they murdered 5 million people in a forced famine in what is the Kansas | ||
| Of Europe and so the book I think is I think the book's magnificent that being said She attacked you for being anti-semitic back in our Breitbart days And she and I want to go back to this article because this article Atlantic is a thought leader This article came out in October 2020 just around the time that we released it with the New York Post This was in the heat when the intelligence officers came out and said it's all Russian disinformation So walk through how she and you turfed her out | ||
| On this whole thing with Hunter Biden, and she's one of the reasons, in her involvement in understanding Ukraine, this is one of the reasons that anybody who's associated with that wants to suppress the information on the hard drive from hell, the laptop from hell. | ||
| Is that correct, Matthew Tierman? | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
| And you make a good distinction. | ||
| As a historiographer and a historian, a writer of history, she is quite credible. | ||
| Read Famine, about the Holden Moor, Iron Curtain, Gulag, all excellent texts. | ||
| But when she does quote-unquote journalism, hot takes, where she writes what's going on in the real time, she is so compromised on her political affiliations, anti-Brexit, Anti-Polish right. | ||
| Orban's a thug. | ||
| Very closely aligned with CEU in Budapest before it moved to Vienna. | ||
| Soros' university, that Orban, just through making the funding transparent, left the country. | ||
| She is tied in with that crowd and she spins like there's no tomorrow. | ||
| When there was corruption in Poland, she was writing about it in the Atlantic, in the Washington Post. | ||
| Nothing to see here. | ||
| Not disclosing that she was married into the party and these are her friends. | ||
| Yeah, I think you're the farthest thing from a Russian troll. | ||
| I think the audience would agree you're the farthest thing from a Russian troll. | ||
| But I want to make a point here. | ||
| When I went to one of her events to promote Red Famine, she saw me and she started yelling, Russian troll, Russian troll, have him removed. | ||
| Now, I think your audience knows from our arguments on your show, I am the opposite of a Russian troll. | ||
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I'm a Russian troll. | |
| I think you're the farthest thing from a Russian troll. | ||
| I think the audience would agree you're the farthest thing from a Russian troll. | ||
| But I want to make a point here. | ||
| I want the audience to get some inside baseball of how the whole global elite and the apparatus is interconnected. | ||
| She's out at the University of Chicago, which is a big institution for politics. | ||
| It's also the home of Leo Strauss and Mersheimer and all these realists and I think people associated with the right. | ||
| Axelrod's got that. | ||
| You have her there. | ||
| That's because this is what you're seeing on MSNBC, CNN, the New York Times, the Washington Post every day. | ||
| It's all interlinked, is it not, Matthew Tierman? | ||
| It is. | ||
| And so to remove her optical fingerprints from much of the Washington Post coverage on the editorial page of Poland and Hungary, she would just delegate it to Jackson Deal, one of her close friends, to write about, you know, the assault on democracy in Poland and Hungary. | ||
| The editorial page piece about me after I went after her in Breitbart was, Trump normalizes anti-Semitic bigotry, which obviously we know is nonsense. | ||
| At The Economist, she has her friend Ed Lucas So these people are super connected through the think tanks, Legatum, the geopolitical think tanks like SAIS and Johns Hopkins, Brookings. | ||
| All these people go to the same cocktail parties and drink wine and cheese and would never be caught dead in a debate with the real populace. | ||
| That's why when you did the monk debate with David Frum, that was such a coup and you kicked his ass. | ||
| André Bernard Levy in Athens. | ||
| But let me go back to where you're seeing this play out right now. | ||
| You're seeing this play out in French politics, right? | ||
| You had Zemmour, who I think is a rock star, Le Pen, who I've known for years, and we've worked with those folks. | ||
| We love Front National, National Rally. | ||
| This was all kind of dismissed, and Macron was going to be the world leader, Macron was going to be the peacemaker. | ||
| Now you're seeing him separating from Washington, you're seeing him in a dead heat, he's whining about, well, I didn't really, my problem is I didn't actually come into the race. | ||
| Walk us through what's happening in France right now, the geopolitical implications of it, and why is it important for people in the United States to understand what's going on there, to understand the propaganda they're giving you on MSNBC, and quite frankly on Fox. | ||
| So just like in 2016, you had this sort of interlinking between Brexit and the Central European rights rise and the rise of Trump. | ||
| Well, now we're in sort of the next inning of this cycle. | ||
| And so we've had Orban's mandate renewed. | ||
| And France is the next really big one. | ||
| And even the establishment in Germany got turfed out. | ||
| They had to build a coalition government. | ||
| So Macron filed his entry to re-elect, to run for re-election on the very last day that it was acceptable. | ||
| And the fix was sort of in. | ||
| They tried to make the fix in. | ||
| When Ukraine blew up, then he was the front person to negotiate with Putin. | ||
| They really wanted to make him, because you can't run on domestic politics. | ||
| Inflation is super high. | ||
| People are super disenchanted. | ||
| You've got the immigration problem, rising crime in every city, Paris, Marseille. | ||
| And so Le Pen's issues that she brought to the forefront are now at the forefront of people's minds in the zeitgeist. | ||
| Zemmour came in and he was palatable to more of a crossover appeal, but his linkages in his saying, his speaking historically to soft on Putin, didn't play when you have mass murder in Russia. | ||
| And Le Pen distanced herself from it a little. | ||
| So she just leapfrogged him. | ||
| When we all thought that it was going to be a Zemmour-Macron second round, Zemmour was consolidating the right. | ||
| A lot of people left Le Pen's party to join Rick Conquest, Zemmour's new party. | ||
| And now all of a sudden, by Le Pen pivoting away from geopolitics and way toward domestic inflation, crime, immigration, she's catching a bid. | ||
| And I do think she outperforms her performance five years ago, where it was two-thirds, one-third, 66-34 in the second round, because these issues have become more salient and have permeated even more in the society. | ||
| So it could be even a coin flip in the second round. | ||
| It's going to be real interesting. | ||
| OK, on our New Year's Day show, I talked about the coming year, how important it was with going back to the analogy of Brexit and what happened in Central Europe, tying it back to Trump's come from behind stunning win in 2016 and how we all had worked on that together. | ||
| That Hungary first, France second, Brazil next, and then the 2022 midterms. | ||
| These were all inextricably linked about where this populist nationalist movement and the underpinnings of it, the issues of it. | ||
| Interconnect. | ||
| Walk us back, walk my audience back through that one more time. | ||
| I want to make sure that syncs into everybody because this is why we follow these races so closely and are so close to the folks that are working on these races. | ||
| So just like our economics are globally interdependent now, trade, labor, natural resource trading, it's so important, you know, energy equals security in Central Europe. | ||
| It's why Nord Stream 2 was such an important debate. | ||
| Well, elections are the derivative of that, of people's personal economics, of the social zeitgeist on the ground. | ||
| And so Hungary, we obviously had this great renewal. | ||
| Hungary is the bastion of national populist conservatism. | ||
| So, I mean, it's not surprising Orban won such a strong re-election mandate. | ||
| Uh, and in Poland, the support for the Polish government is super high. | ||
| And in France, they really wanted to make this a referendum on geopolitics, but it's going to come back. | ||
| You know, like Reagan and that era, it was always, it's the economy, stupid. | ||
| And so it's going to come back to that. | ||
| And that's why France, we have to focus on this first round on Sunday. | ||
| Second round is two weeks after on the 28th. | ||
| Uh, and if France goes, if France goes to the right, then there's a whole new game in Europe. | ||
| And by the way, Whoever wins the presidency in France, France has the rotating presidency of the EU. | ||
| So that person would inherit, you know, Macron it's the incumbent default renewal, but if it's Le Pen or if it's the Moor, then that is a real shock to the jowls of the EU, Brussels, Strasbourg, because now you've got Euroskeptics in charge of the EU de facto. | ||
| I've only got a couple of minutes. | ||
| I want to go back to Hungary because you spent, remember, we were picking you up when you spent weeks there before the election. | ||
| We ran out of time to get Matt Schlapp up. | ||
| We're going to get, hopefully, Matt tomorrow to talk about a CPAC Hungary, which people all over him. | ||
| Walk people through how important that victory was. | ||
| You've got about two minutes, Matthew, because he was taking all comers from Soros to the left in this country, to the international left, the European left, Brussels. | ||
| He took on six, as he says, all comers and won a landslide. | ||
| Matthew Terman. | ||
| A little bit more of a different history than most of the Central European nations that have all stood in solidarity with Ukraine and Russia. | ||
| A, Hungary is very reliant on Russian natural resources. | ||
| It really is the energy complex supplied by Russia, the industrial complex, small country, sub 10 million people. | ||
| And so those ties are really important. | ||
| And then you had this coalition of leftists and hard rightists. | ||
| Jobbik is a far-right party that were trying to consolidate all of the opposition to turf out Orban and Orban was between a rock and a hard place vis-a-vis Russia. | ||
| Now with the Hungarian right, the Hungarian base, it's a little different history and there is a Hungarian minority just across their small border they share with Ukraine where there's been a lot of contention for generations. | ||
| So there's not as close a tie with Hungarians and Ukrainians as there are with Poles and And this has created a rip between even Hungary and Poland, which is the closest allies in Central Europe. | ||
| But Orban had to sort of play it very, very smart because Putin could have easily come in and taken active measures in the election and made things difficult for him. | ||
| he thrives on chaos, he could have helped the leftist coalition push out Orban. | ||
| And so Orban had to hedge himself a little. | ||
| And it worked really well. | ||
| And now, you know, we'll see how he stands with Europe and Central Europe on Russia going forward. | ||
| But the mandate he was given came from a huge cross-section. | ||
| He got 60 percent. | ||
| Two small parties did not make the parliament. | ||
| They got some 5 percent. | ||
| So he is very, very safe. | ||
| for the next four or five years in Parliament and in running the government, legislatively and in the executive branch. | ||
| Big deal. | ||
| Very much defends the stability of Central Europe on the right. | ||
| Okay, we're going to give a lot of coverage to this election in France on Sunday over the week on The Evening Show and tomorrow. | ||
| Matthew, how can people keep up with you on all the breaking developments on your social media? | ||
| So, it's all getter. | ||
| Matthew Tierremont, M-A-T-T-H-E-W-T-Y-R-M-A-N-D-C. | ||
| You got Macron and Putin and the Alice in Wonderland that they live in. | ||
| And on Sunday, you know, it's Masters Day, so that's also something to focus on. | ||
| I just got to give a quick shout out. | ||
| You know, you've got, you know, the super great Ben Harnwell as your editor, as your deputy editor. | ||
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I want to introduce you guys to my deputy editor over here. | |
| His name is Leo, and he's a great editor as well. | ||
| Fabulous. | ||
| Good work there, sir. | ||
| You and Natalie and Beatty gotta take back the University of Chicago. | ||
| That's our next project. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Talking about the stolen election that led to this illegitimate regime. | ||
| All next in the War Room. | ||
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And y'all thought me teaching the children about me being Polly was crazy. | |
| But, not only that, but they also know that I'm gender fluid. | ||
| At one point last year, I had explained to them that I was not Miss Lois or Mr. Lois, it's just Lois because I'm not a boy or a girl. | ||
| And this was all well and good until October when I also explained to them that I'm pagan, so I am also a witch. | ||
| And at one point I had gotten a haircut and I had gotten the sides of my mohawk shaved down. | ||
| And I come into work and one of the children goes, Are you a boy? | ||
| You have short hair. | ||
| And his sister goes, no, Lois is a girl. | ||
| And a third child, who's my favorite, suddenly yells, no guys, we've been over this. | ||
| Lois isn't a boy or a girl. | ||
| Lois is a witch. | ||
| Duh. | ||
| The other big area is gender identity and expression. | ||
| So doing all of this work to ensure that our employees and cast can express their gender here authentically and proudly at the company. | ||
| So, you know, coming up with guides on how to change your photo, information about pronouns, working with our benefits team to give information about gender affirmation procedures, both for our employees who are transitioning and trans, but also our employees who have kids who are transitioning. | ||
| Yeah, I, I identify as like a biromantic asexual. | ||
| I've had a lot of learning and growing about myself this year, kind of facilitated by how comfortable I felt on The Proud Family and with my immediate team at Disney TVA. | ||
| And so it's just sort of like this creative dissonance between my personal experience where I feel so safe and so supported. | ||
| I mean, I wasn't like... | ||
| We have an entire package on this, and here's what we're going to do. | ||
| We've got this attack and assault on the American family. | ||
| We're going to get Mike Davis on. | ||
| This is going to be on this evening's show. | ||
| I'm kind of giving you a tease. | ||
| This is now an outright. | ||
| There's videos popping up all over the place about them taking on DeSantis, what they're doing. | ||
| The Disney thing is 50 times bigger than I thought, and it's got to be addressed. | ||
| And you have heroes like DeSantis and others Mike Davis is going to come tonight and talk to us also about things that went on in the Senate at the last minute. | ||
| This is a, one, you have to do, we have to beat off this assault and war in the American family using the children. | ||
| But it's also, I hate to be so blunt, but it's good politics. | ||
| The Hispanic community and the African-American community are not going to tolerate this. | ||
| Whoever defends their families and assists them in defending their families, they're going to vote for. | ||
| And they're going to want to be in office. | ||
| They're going to want these policies reversed. | ||
| And we're going to be at the forefront of that. | ||
| And so tonight we're going to put, we've got a bunch of these packages. | ||
| Look, we could play hours of this stuff. | ||
| So we're going to do some condensed packages. | ||
| I want to kind of give you a tease. | ||
| We've got the great Scott Walter up. | ||
| What I'd like to do is play, if we get the short clip from Rigged, I want to bring Scott Walter, one of the top researchers, investigators in Washington, D.C. | ||
| over at Capital Research Center. | ||
| Can we play the short spot? | ||
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The greatest billionaire assault on election integrity we've ever seen. | |
| It was a partial takeover of the election system. | ||
| You had an entire Democratic Party petrified. | ||
| We can look straight in the eye at Mark Zuckerberg. | ||
| That's why Joe Biden won. | ||
| He's putting money under the guise that he's going to open up the election. | ||
| That's all crap. | ||
| RIGGED. | ||
| NOW PLAYING. | ||
| It was a rigged election. | ||
| People have to find out what happened. | ||
| Okay, Scott Walter joins us now. | ||
| He's one of the stars of this film. | ||
| Boss He Made It just had the big premiere down at Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| President Trump sat through the whole thing. | ||
| I know he's very excited about it. | ||
| Scott, I guess the question is, because we have gone through the Zuckerberg thing, how did this happen without people knowing that he was putting this kind of money in and particularly focus on Wisconsin, Georgia? | ||
| Well, I think there's a couple things. | ||
| which swung the 2020 election. | ||
| How did something of this scale with $500 million coming in here and Ploof involved and very well thought through, how did this happen without people being alerted at the time or were they and they just didn't, they just didn't pay attention to the signals? | ||
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Well, I think there's a couple of things. | |
| The biggest fault is of the mainstream media, who of course didn't bother to do hardly any reporting on this at all of any kind. | ||
| And they still aren't. | ||
| The Mar-a-Lago premier party, there's like 2000 words in the Washington Post. | ||
| Just sneering at, you know, the canapes and Trump and whatnot. | ||
| Nothing to dig into the very factual, heavily documented stuff that David Bossie and the film give you. | ||
| Hang on a second. | ||
| Hang on a second. | ||
| Does that shock you? | ||
| I mean, they're in on the fix. | ||
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Well, no, no. | |
| It's not really shocking. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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But I got two things for, I got a thing or two for you on that. | |
| I will say, to be fair, partly because we, I mean, at Capital Research Center, we started banging the alarm bell the second the very first grants were announced. | ||
| And those grants, of course, were to the top Democratic cities of Wisconsin, which everybody knew would be the closest state in the country, right? | ||
| So it could have been more obvious from day one what was, what was going on. | ||
| And I'll tell you, the New York Times did a A slanted but still valuable story, at least talking about it before the election, and pointing out and documenting that the people in the two pass-through nonprofits that got those hundreds of millions were left-wing operatives. | ||
| You know, even the New York Times admitted that in an otherwise slanted story, and an AP reporter called me up for his story, again, months before the election, and I can tell you, he He had no skepticism whatsoever that Zuckerberg was putting the money in in order to slant the vote. | ||
| His only thing to me was, why in the world, you guys have billionaires on the right, why aren't there billionaires on the right doing this? | ||
| And that's actually not a crazy question. | ||
| It's a very interesting question. | ||
| You've got Gableman up in Wisconsin, Brnovich in Arizona, and we're about to have Boris come on and we're going to talk about this new development in Georgia. | ||
| Given all the research you've got, given all the power of what's in the film, Why does it seem like, and what the audience wants to know is, why does it seem like we can't push it over the goal line? | ||
| Here you have Voss in Wisconsin taking a cut in the funding for the Gableman investigation. | ||
| Brnovich just sent the interim report. | ||
| Now a lot of people are upset they don't think that's enough. | ||
| He's saying there's going to be more there. | ||
| But Karen Phan and then look like they're in hang fire in the Speaker of the House in Arizona. | ||
| How do we take your research, everything is in the film, and actually get this to something that it's more than just saying, hey, we're going to do better next time. | ||
| How do we actually get to the accountability, the responsibility, in sorting out the 2020 election? | ||
| Because I will tell you, there's X percentage, and I tell everybody this, whether they like to hear it or not, there's X percentage of Trump, hardcore Trump voters, they're just not going to come out. | ||
| In 2022 or 2024 until you get to the bottom of November 3rd, it's just not going to happen. | ||
| So what is your recommendation, since you're the guy that has most of the information, has really thought about this longest and the earliest? | ||
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Well, I have to say that part of the problem is that elections are wildly complex, right? | |
| Every state has different rules. | ||
| Every state had different things happen that November. | ||
| There's all these different concerns, and I understand people have lots of concerns, and there's all kinds of stuff on there. | ||
| You can spend days on the internet, right? | ||
| Here's what I would say. | ||
| Zuckbucks probably were the single biggest factor in the election. | ||
| Smarter people than I have said that. | ||
| And the thing about Zuckbucks is they are absolutely documentable. | ||
| If you go to our influencewatch.org, And you look up Center for Tech and Civic Life, which was the main grantee. | ||
| You can see every penny that it put out everywhere. | ||
| You can see the wild differentials for Democrat areas funding versus Republican areas funding. | ||
| Zuck Bucks is the strategic best way to deal with the mess of the election. | ||
| We'll never unravel all the thousands of different things that happened, but Zuck Bucks is absolutely documentable, absolutely outrageous. | ||
| And by the way, to your left, you know, to a left-wing friend or to a mainstream media guy, I would say, look, for the sake of argument, I'll say there wasn't a single vote of fraud in the whole country. | ||
| Not one fraudulent vote cast and not one vote miscounted. | ||
| Let's say for the sake of argument that were true. | ||
| Zuck Bucks is still a scandal. | ||
| It's a scandal for the left. | ||
| Billionaires aren't supposed to exist. | ||
| They certainly aren't supposed to be giving money in politics. | ||
| And above all, they aren't supposed to be taking over government election offices. | ||
| But to the point we say, and obviously we know there were millions of illegal votes, but let's, for purposes of conversation, let's put that aside for a second. | ||
| In this regard, Isn't just, and I hate to bring out a brutal fact, but isn't just Plouffe and Zuckerberg and these guys, they were smarter than the Republicans to control this thing. | ||
| Are you saying that Gabelman, now Gabelman says he's got, he could say go for criminal charges, right, if they were aggressive in Wisconsin. | ||
| Do you believe, he thinks there could be criminal charges in those four of the five cities. | ||
| I think Kenosha is the only city he says not, Green Bay, Madison, Milwaukee, and Rancine. | ||
| Okay, those four. | ||
| Do you believe that? | ||
| Do you believe that they actually went over the line to criminal charges where you could prosecute it that way and then through that start to reverse these, start to decertify these electors, sir? | ||
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Well, a couple things. | |
| One, my parents were married, so I'm not a lawyer, and I really shouldn't be advising anybody on what can or can't work. | ||
| I will say, it's very hard. | ||
| It's very, you know, the courts are very hesitant to do anything on elections at all, and a lot of times the statutes are not friendly to us. | ||
| Other times, the precedents are not friendly to folks trying to do these things. | ||
| So, now, on the other hand, You know, in Wisconsin, as far as we've been able to discover, the most egregious stuff went on related to Zuck Bucks, because you had a left-wing Democrat operative from the National Voted Home Institute was the grant mentor for the people, the election officials in Wisconsin, getting the money. | ||
| And he just took over, absolutely took over, the process of the elections in some of those big Democrat cities. | ||
| I would think, as a layman, that you could go after things like that. | ||
| But some of the others are going to be very hard. | ||
| Scott, why don't you hang on. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break when we come back. | ||
| We've got Jeff Clark. | ||
| Who was the one guy in the Justice Department who tried to stand up and get things done. | ||
| He's gonna talk about Project 65. | ||
| We're gonna bring Boris to that. | ||
| They're trying to disbar all the... We just said with Scott, you need to be a lawyer. | ||
| His parents were married. | ||
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Maybe the best line anybody's done in the war room in a while. | |
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Scott Walter from Capital Research. | ||
| We also got Jeff Clark's gonna join us all next. | ||
| Then we get down to the nitty-gritty of the legality of all this in the war room. | ||
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OK, we're back in the War Room. | |
| Scott Walter at Capital Research. | ||
| War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, we're back in the War Room. Scott Walter at Capital Research. | ||
| Scott, how do people, what we try to do here is give people access to information they can immerse themselves with so they can become fluent in this. | ||
| And the Zuckerberg aspect of this, ladies and gentlemen, is really at the top of the first inning. | ||
| I realize it's taken a while to get here, but it is what it is. | ||
| But this is going to grind, and not just freezing Zuckerberg out in the future, I believe. | ||
| And if you look at gay women, some other people, there's going to be some payback on this about what happened on 2020. | ||
| And we're maniacally focused on the to make sure we rescind those electors, decertify those electors. | ||
| Scott, how to InfluenceWatch.org. | ||
| I don't know if we can get that up. | ||
| If we can't, let's get it in all the chat rooms. | ||
| InfluenceWatch.org, which Scott and these guys have, is the way to keep a view on the left and the activist left. | ||
| So InfluenceWatch.org, you can get information there. | ||
| Scott, how do people get to you at Capital Research? | ||
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CapitalResearch.org is our other site, and that has links to our Twitter and Facebook and all the social media. | |
| We also do a once a week greatest hits of our research. | ||
| You can sign up for the email. | ||
| Also at CapitalResearch.org. | ||
| Yeah, I get that. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Also, the movie Rigged. | ||
| We're going to put that up there. | ||
| Scott's one of the stars of that. | ||
| You've got to see it. | ||
| President Trump watched this the other night at Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| Like he says, he wants to get to the bottom of this thing. | ||
| It's outrageous. | ||
| Scott Walter, Capital Research. | ||
| Thanks for joining us. | ||
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Thank you, Steve. | |
| Okay, we've got Jeff Clarkson joining us. | ||
| He was over at DOJ during this fiasco. | ||
| We're going to bring him in a second. | ||
| Boris, there's an update on Georgia. | ||
| Judge Gabelman, we had Judge Gabelman on the show last night, the political show last night, and there's also, you saw Brnovich in his interim report. | ||
| Give us a quick summary of where we stand on all this. | ||
| Steve, a ton of movement on the 3 November movement, and the Can you hear me? | ||
| Just making sure you got it. | ||
| Yes, you're good. | ||
| A ton of movement on the 3 November movement. | ||
| And, you know, I hear from the audience through email, through social, and I love to hear from each and every one of you. | ||
| Even the people, you know, who feel down sometimes and want to reach out and say, hey, what's going on? | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| We have not taken one step back. | ||
| We have continued to fight on every single front of the freight train of audits and the freight train of decertifications. | ||
| So, in Georgia, Breaking as of less than 20 hours ago, the judge in the major Fulton County case to unseal $148,000, hands down a big-time ruling, preserving the evidence, granting our side their motion to preserve. | ||
| And what is that evidence? | ||
| That's 148,000 mail-in ballots, the envelopes, the images, and anything at all related to it. | ||
| And what is interesting about that, Steve, is that that information, by statute, was already supposed to be preserved through November of this year, till November 2020. | ||
| The judge came in and said, because of this case, because of the importance of the case, the importance of the issues, he's adding that extra layer of protection. | ||
| So that's why he granted the preservation order. | ||
| Reading between the lines, I am an attorney and my parents are married. | ||
| Reading between the lines, what I will tell you is that a judge likely, likely does not hand down an order like that if He were not to be heavily considering granting the motion to unseal the information that he just ruled should be preserved and give an extra layer of protection to him. | ||
| Let's go to Judge Gableman, the interview last night, and then you followed up this morning. | ||
| The Wisconsin situation, I mean, he said, look, if he had his druthers and backing, he thinks he could go get criminal charges right now. | ||
| Give us a summary of your thoughts about that interview, and you're talking to him this morning, and Robin Voss not having his back. | ||
| We've talked about this a lot, but I will repeat what I said on the show yesterday. | ||
| This may be the most important call to action we've made so far. | ||
| To every MAGA patriot in Wisconsin and across the country. | ||
| Color within the lines, but color as boldly as you ever have in reaching out to Robin Voss, his email, his phone number, all business, not private, but you make your voices heard. | ||
| Because Robin Voss and his team are trying to shut down Judge Gableman's investigation. | ||
| There's no two ways about it. | ||
| And Voss is trying to play both sides against the middle because he may have a tough primary coming up for his race for re-election in November. | ||
| Robin Voss is not taking MAGA seriously. | ||
| Let's make sure he does. | ||
| Again, always color within the lines. | ||
| But Robin Voss went out there a few weeks ago and said, oh, of course, this interim report that Judge Gableman put out about a month ago is just the beginning. | ||
| And now he's trying to shut down the investigation. | ||
| That cannot be allowed to happen. | ||
| So I'm calling on the War Room Posse to put its shoulder to the wheel and make sure that Robin Vos knows that if he wants a political future, it is not an option. | ||
| It is not an option to not continue the investigation. | ||
| He has to let Judge Gabelman continue until the investigation is done, until the subpoenas are enforced, all the information is turned over, and Judge Gableman is able to issue that final report and make recommendations for criminal prosecution as it seems that he will. That is what has to happen. Make sure Robin Voss hears your voice, Posse. Yeah. Okay, here's the number right now, and if we can get it up, Captain Bennett can put it up. Everywhere. 608-266-9171. | ||
| 608-266-9171. | ||
| Speaker Voss, Robin Voss, it is 608-266-9171. | ||
| You lit up the phone lines and blew up the Republican establishment during this vote, and we've made the confirmation vote. | ||
| Amazingly toxic for Judge Jackson. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
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They've got to have Gabriel's back. | |
| Let's clip this segment and get it up on all the socials. | ||
| I want all the pressure on. | ||
| That investigation in Wisconsin is likely the most important part of our fight For 3 November, because in Arizona, we know what's got to happen. | ||
| And Bronowich's report was weak. | ||
| What needs to happen is that resolution to decertify has got to go on the floor. | ||
| In Wisconsin, we have got to drive this investigation home. | ||
| And why? | ||
| Because Judge Gableman didn't just lay out, Steve, as we talked about, didn't just lay out the immense fraud. | ||
| He laid out the cure, which is decertification. | ||
| Okay, we're going to have Finch him on and I'm going to try to grab him about this movement to decertify in Arizona and the bill that's on the floor. | ||
| Let's go to Jeff Clark. | ||
| Look, the key to fight this is we've got to have great and tough lawyers. | ||
| You see Rudy Giuliani, you see all these guys, these left-wing bar associations because they're all manned by activists. | ||
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| Well, thanks, Steve. | ||
| Thanks for having me on. | ||
| Jeff Clark comes in and joins us now. | ||
| I think it's Project 65, and I think it's one of the Mark Elias things. | ||
| Jeff, tell us exactly what's going on with this movement to disbar the small law firms and the people at the tip of the spear of getting to the bottom of 3 November. | ||
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| Thanks for having me on. | ||
| So this Project 65 is really pernicious, and it's being led by another character that I'm sure you're well familiar with, David Brock of Media Matters, of various PACs that he set up very closely tied to the Clintons. | ||
| And with several million dollars, he started a project to travel around the country and target 111 lawyers in terms of whatever bar association that they're a member of or bar organization, get them disbarred so that they cannot provide legal assistance to conservative, you know, patriotic, uh... causes and in particular uh... causes that relate to fights about uh... | ||
| the election so that would be like a unilateral disarmament of scaring off legal talent so that's conservative legal talent can oppose the likes of folks like mark alias so how are we at boris let me bring here for a second half how this shows you how afraid they are of these small law firms in the lawyers that are independently going after this to try to cut this off. | ||
| They realize that we got a lot of punch because we have the receipts on our side. | ||
| They're essentially trying to keep us out of court. | ||
| Is that what we're seeing? | ||
| I just wanna make sure the audience understands what's happening. | ||
| Well, first of all, I want to point out, I think there's a couple of people in the audience may or may not know who Project 65 announced as people they're targeting, somebody that may or may not be on air right now. | ||
| So, but I'll tell you from my perspective, you know, I think this entity is a joke. | ||
| David Brock's a joke, right? | ||
| I mean, if you look at this guy's history, he's a criminal, he's had to settle, or he literally had to pay blackmail to a former lover of his, not to expose his own IRS violations. | ||
| I think Tom Daschle is on there. | ||
| Remember what happened with Tom Daschle? | ||
| Tried to go into Obama's cabinet. | ||
| So these guys are living in the thinnest glass house you've ever seen and trying to throw stones at people like the great Jeffrey Clark and humbly myself. | ||
| Here's what I'll tell you. | ||
| From what I'm hearing, Project 65 is actually struggling to raise money. | ||
| And in terms of the complaints they're actually putting forward, you know, in terms of communications, they've got some, you know, kid running their comms and they're, you know, coming in all hot and strong, but then you read the letter and it's, Oh, well, the bar associations hope you're having a nice day. | ||
| Maybe you take a look at this thing. | ||
| So, you know, this is another grift from the Democrats to try to steal as much money from their duped, woke, radical, pathetic lib donors. | ||
| And I don't think it's going to go very far. | ||
| Obviously, we have to be vigilant. | ||
| It's great that Jeffrey Clark and others are staying on top of it. | ||
| But here's what you always signal not noise for this audience. | ||
| This Project 65, Steve, as you said, is another cry of desperation. | ||
| From the left, just like attacking MAGA people like Eric Greinz is a cry of desperation from rhinos. | ||
| They know that we're winning. | ||
| They know that 60%, at least, of Americans believe that 2020 was stolen. | ||
| They know that Joe Biden is illegitimate. | ||
| So this is another one of their, combined with Jan 6th Committee and all that, this is another way that they are trying to come after us. | ||
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But we will not be derailed. | |
| We are not going to be denied. | ||
| We're going to continue our fight, and we won't be scared by nonsense like this. | ||
| And we can't lose one of the greatest weapons we have, which are really smart, tough lawyers. | ||
| A lot of this gets adjudicated in the courts. | ||
| Jeffrey, can you take a second? | ||
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Can I give you some more seconds on this? | |
| And I'm very interested in what Jeffrey has to say. | ||
| From what I understand, by the way, some of these issues have already been adjudicated, including with Mayor Giuliani. | ||
| I don't think, again, from what I understand legally, any of the bar associations Or anywhere in the country, even in D.C., which is super liberal, are interested in engaging in this. | ||
| And this seems to me like it's going to be an utterly futile effort. | ||
| I'm curious what Jeffrey has to say. | ||
| Well, the one in New York is. | ||
| That's after Rudy. | ||
| And this is, Jeffrey, we've got time on the next segment, too, but start here. | ||
| I think what people, at least I'm not a lawyer, what I was surprised about is learning that the kind of progressive left-wing taker of not just the bar associations, but also those sub-panels that accredit people. | ||
| Can you talk about that? | ||
| Because that's where this Project 65 is aimed, correct? | ||
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| Well, look, they basically have a retail level of attack and then a wholesale level of attack. | ||
| So at the wholesale level, They're aiming basically to try to change bar rules in a way that will stack the deck for the left. | ||
| And so that effort has to be opposed. | ||
| Usually there are rulemaking comment kinds of processes. | ||
| That has to be opposed when those processes come up, and you have to watch for that in each of the state bars. | ||
| Uh, and then at the retail level, they've targeted particular attorneys. | ||
| Uh, so they've targeted Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| Last night on the program, you had A.G. | ||
| Brnovich. | ||
| Uh, you know, there's been a complaint filed against him. | ||
| They filed a complaint against Ken Paxton in connection with the Supreme Court case that he filed in late 2020, ultimately joined by 17 other states. | ||
| So, you know, this is something that they seem to be engaged in a full court press on. | ||
| And, you know, I'm sure there's an element of grift to it, but especially in, you know, bar organizations that are, you know, subject to being captured by the left, maybe because that's just the nature of their bar membership, you know, it really needs to be opposed strongly. | ||
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What Brock is telling people is, look, I want to starve the conservative movement of legal talent and I also want to shame lawyers in their local communities. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| This is the key. | ||
| Jeffrey Clarkson joins us after the break, and Boris. | ||
| What they're trying to do is intimidate these lawyers, so the small law firms don't take these over. | ||
| You shame them, guys are going to get kicked out of the country club, everything like that. | ||
| They understand how important this is. | ||
| We need to have our best and brightest and toughest hombres, these lawyers. | ||
| Gotta have it in the world of lawfare. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Jeffrey Clark, Boris Epstein. | ||
| Join us when we come back. | ||
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| Okay, Speaker Robin Voss up in Wisconsin, the number is 608-266-9171. | ||
| Call today and express your opinion about the ongoing support of Judge Gableman's investigation of the criminality in the 2020 election, in the stealing of the 2020 election. | ||
| Not the 2022 or 2024, 2020. | ||
| Got to get to the bottom of it. | ||
| Scott Walter's not known for Boris as that funny a guy, but that was a great line. | ||
| Jeffrey Clark, I'm not going to ask about your parentage, but this is actually quite serious. | ||
| You got Eastman, you got Rudy, you got all the... It's not just the best lawyers in the... From 1942, okay? | ||
| It's been going on from 1942, okay? | ||
| Is the huffing over? | ||
| It's just not about the name, the big Showtime lawyers. | ||
| It's trying to intimidate that kind of second tier, particularly the smaller law firms, and to try to make sure people don't take these cases on. | ||
| And we're going to have a ton of these cases going forward. | ||
| Remember, we're not going to back off an inch. | ||
| There's not going to be any area where we don't press to have a fair, clean, Election that has votes that are certifiable, chain of custody, legal votes of American citizens. | ||
| If we do that, it's impossible for Democrats to win, and they know that. | ||
| That's why they're going after the lawyers now. | ||
| The Democrats, and I don't care if the mainstream media, MSNBC, don't like me saying it, or the guy writing this big, some guy writing some big piece, I think in New Republic. | ||
| That it abandons after the foundations of the Democratic Party and it's actually scarier than 6th January because they're saying that, no, it's not a legitimate political institution. | ||
| It's an apparatus for globalist elites to try to destroy the greatest country in mankind's history. | ||
| That would be the United States of America. | ||
| And you can see it from attacks on the family to invasion on the southern border. | ||
| They're in business with all the corrupt oligarchs in Ukraine and other places. | ||
| Stealing with both hands. | ||
| We're trying to get us to commit our blood and treasure to these areas, okay? | ||
| And we are going to destroy the Democratic Party at the ballot box on November 8th as a national political institution. | ||
| So, Jeffrey Clark, what can be done here? | ||
| What's your recommendation of the actions that have to be taken? | ||
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So, Steve, I want your audience to check out my piece on Revolver, which is up now, and it lays out ways that we can fight back, just because I know we're probably not going to have time to get through all of them here. | |
| And you're definitely right that they're targeting high-level lawyers, and it seems like Brock has a particular problem with and aim to cut off the lower-level lawyers and intimidate them. | ||
| He says, well, they can be shamed in their communities. | ||
| That's just about as evil as I can imagine it. | ||
| It's designed to create a political monopoly, because you can't fight these election contests unless you have equal access to legal talent. | ||
| If you can't get access to lawyers in far-flung states that might be in play, Then, you know, it's really going to make political contests a lot less competitive, and that's what... Hold on, hang on. | ||
| You're being too lawyerly and too nice because you're a real gentleman. | ||
| I'm not, so let me... Boris, this is Mark Elias. | ||
| If they can't steal elections, they can't win. | ||
| And the only way they do it is they've got to get in and change the rules. | ||
| You see it in the Zuckerberg situation. | ||
| You see Mark Elias running around the country. | ||
| Right? | ||
| They need to steal to win. | ||
| Let me repeat this. | ||
| If the Democratic Party can't steal elections, they can't win. | ||
| And they ain't stealing this election that's coming up. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Not going to happen. | ||
| Where they're going to get blown out. | ||
| From school boards, to county supervisors, to electoral boards, all the way up through the state legislature, to the DAs, the Secretaries of State, the Attorney Generals, the governorships, all the way up to the House where we're going to win a 100-seat majority. | ||
| Okay, and we're going to take it over in the Senate because now you see with the Judge Jackson situation of being soft on sex trafficking and child pornography and all that, right, in the states of Arizona and Nevada, and also with Title 42 in Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and in New Hampshire, It's game over. | ||
| So what they have to do is they have to make a move in a rear-guard action to take out our best and brightest attorneys. | ||
| It's not that easy to find great attorneys who have the courage to go do this and have the flexibility around some national law firm that's sitting there going, oh my god, Disney's going to cancel our contract, right? | ||
| Disney's going to cancel our retainer. | ||
| That's what we're up against. | ||
| And Barack and these guys are smart. | ||
| They're evil, evil, evil, but they're smart, cunning, and tough. | ||
| They understand what they're doing here. | ||
| And Boris, I don't think you can dismiss it as easily as you're dismissing it. | ||
| You know, Brock's a smart guy and he's had a big impact, okay? | ||
| He's a smart guy who's embarrassed himself his whole career and who's gotten whacked around for media matters. | ||
| And by the way, for the audience, this is important. | ||
| This is the same Brock Who founded and runs Media Matters. | ||
| And listen, I'm being absolutely forward here. | ||
| Should we take it seriously? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But is this a sign that we've got them up against the wall? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
| I know that, but it's still effective. | ||
| By the way, Madeline Peltz, our marketing director, she's our marketing director over at Media Matters. | ||
| You know, Brock started the organization. | ||
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I kind of miss her. | |
| By the way, we do pray for Madeline every day for her health. | ||
| We want her to recover because she'll get back. | ||
| Jeffrey, I'm sorry we burned time up. | ||
| We're going to have you back on. | ||
| This is a huge issue. | ||
| Go to Revolver, the great therapy. | ||
| He's got Jeffrey Clark. | ||
| Jeffrey Clark, this thing's the lead story, I think, up now on Revolver. | ||
| Jeffrey, are you on social media? | ||
| Can people follow you in any way? | ||
| Do you have a website people can go to? | ||
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Yeah, so I'm on Twitter at JeffClarkUS, and I'm on Getter and Truth Social as RealJeffClark, and I also have, could be used for this purpose too, GiveSendGo slash JeffClark. | |
| So I would love for people to follow me, and please read that Revolver piece. | ||
| It goes into detail. | ||
| We'll get it back up, and I want to have you back on to go in detail. | ||
| Okay, Boris, real quickly, social media? | ||
| No doubt about it. | ||
| We're going to have an email going out shortly. | ||
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| And of course, hottest ever on the gram, Boris on the Scrub Stein. | ||
| Stay strong, God bless, and Shabbat Shalom. | ||
| Okay, I teased the Disney part that we're going to play. | ||
| We also got Peter Thiel's amazing throw-down speech about our currency. | ||
| A lot going on at 5 o'clock. | ||
| You're not going to want to miss it. | ||
| 5 o'clock back here in the War Room. | ||
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