March 14, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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they still have that they haven't gotten from the West. It's the one wish that Washington feels like, says they can't grant. Now, it might not be the panacea that a lot of people here think it is. But no-fly zone, when we hear about it, it sounds very think tanky. | |
| It sounds like a geo-strategic kind of concept, something you'd hear out of the mouth of a military analyst or an open-source intelligence person. The fact is, is that ordinary people in the street talk about this. This is not a lofty concept. | ||
| This is a populist movement here. They want a no-fly zone because they see the hellfire raining down from the skies on them. The problem is, is that it's not always jets that are launching those bombs. | ||
| The Russians have, you know, aircraft, they have systems arrayed all along the borders. | ||
| They can assault Ukraine from anywhere, from the Black Sea even, from their naval assets that they have arrayed down there. It doesn't, so, you know, a no-fly zone wouldn't necessarily stop all of the bombings and all of the bombardment that we've been seeing and the projectiles that are flying through the air here that are so terrorizing to people here, especially now as I mentioned, as we're seeing those bombings migrating towards the West. | ||
| But it would give them a fighting chance, and it would give them the confidence that the West is behind them. | ||
| However, there is that risk that that could put Western forces into direct contact with the Russians and that would mean a metastasizing conflict, something like World War III that we always keep hearing about. | ||
| I've actually written an op-ed for the Washington Post that It goes along the broad outlines of this. | ||
| Jonathan O'Meara and nothing original in what I'm writing other than the fact it reflects what we're starting to see and what we've started to see this weekend. | ||
| Fred Kemp with the Atlantic Council. | ||
| Many others are saying Biden and the West have done an admirable job. | ||
| The economic sanctions are extraordinary. | ||
| The flooding of weapons across the Polish-Ukrainian border, extraordinary. | ||
| But now the war is moving to a new phase. | ||
| Americans and Europeans are seeing war crimes committed on their television sets 24 hours a day. | ||
| You saw in the West a couple of useful idiots starting to talk about Ukrainians having chemical weapons, which was a precursor to a Russian general saying that they had those weapons, which of course the intel community is rightly saying is going to be Russia's excuse to use chemical weapons. | ||
| Does the Biden administration, forgive me this is going to sound condescending, But it's too early for me to figure out any other way to say it. | ||
| Does the Biden administration understand that when Americans and Europeans see five-year-old children choked to death by Putin's chemical weapons that we're going to have to go in, do they understand that there is no holding back, that we're going to have to take a far more aggressive approach? | ||
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Any minute to hear from the White House Press Secretary. | |
| I'm sure you're all trying to get more information on the potential that President Biden may travel to Europe in the midst of this crisis. | ||
| Well, where this stands right now, this is not an official announcement of a trip from the White House, so we make that distinction, but our team has been able to work sources who are familiar with some of the discussions. | ||
| And part of what is at play here is the idea of having the President go to Europe, where he could reinforce the kind of alliances he has been so much at the center of helping to build and reinforce with his partners in Europe, with NATO. | ||
| His partners still don't pay 2% for their defense. | ||
| The deadbeats of NATO. | ||
| Sorry that the establishment doesn't like me saying that, but they're total deadbeats. | ||
| Outside, I think Poland and I want to figure out maybe the UK, 2%. | ||
| Their minimum requirement for this quote-unquote alliance, which is just a group of... Look, here's what NATO is. | ||
| It's a collection of staffs that work together in a billion-dollar It looks like the headquarters of Goldman Sachs in Brussels, right? | ||
| That's what NATO is. | ||
| It's not a joint operating military force. | ||
| The interoperability, the joint, the functions they put on, the maneuvers they put on, de minimis. | ||
| De minimis. | ||
| And a bunch of deadbeats. | ||
| By the way, when you even look at what they try to do to get to the 2%, it's green energy, it's climate change, it's healthcare, it's all of it. | ||
| Not weapons, not training, not what it should be. | ||
| Of course, you are paying for a $900 billion, which if you really put everything that's in it, it's over a trillion dollars annually. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
| Annually, you pay for it. | ||
| One trillion dollars for a defense bill. | ||
| We heard from Captain Finnell this morning on The Morning Show, we ain't even close to being ready. | ||
| If this thing slides to a kinetic war in the South China Sea or Taiwan, The 7th Fleet's not ready. | ||
| Not ready. | ||
| Said not even close to being ready. | ||
| With just basic ammunition rockets, what they need to repel the Chinese Communist Party, which is the real enemy here. | ||
| And of course, Drudge. | ||
| Can we pull up? | ||
| I sent it to you guys earlier. | ||
| Drudge. | ||
| The homepage of Drudge earlier in the day. | ||
| They had a bold red headline. | ||
| The winner here is Beijing, and it's obvious. | ||
| Beijing today, Tiger Yang lecturing the pencil-necked soy boy, Jake Sullivan. | ||
| Don't you feel comfortable? | ||
| Don't you feel comfortable going to sleep at night knowing that Tony Blinken and Jake Sullivan are representing your country in the most serious national security affairs in the world? | ||
| Okay, it's Monday, 14 March, the eve of the Ides of March 2022. | ||
| You're live in the War Room. | ||
| Now with over hit the magic number over the weekend over 150 million downloads the podcast and of course live to millions everywhere I want to thank G news has got us in Mandarin every central G TV G TVs being reworked. | ||
| I think there's another Launch or something like that of a new platform. | ||
| They're talking about but they're all over at getter right now Although I think at 1100 live streams all went together. | ||
| So we're still on G news in Mandarin and in Japanese I know we're in Mandarin because people's heads were blowing up and Okay, we've got a lot to get to. | ||
| I want to bring in Pedro Gonzalez, one of the smartest guys in the populist nationalist movement over at Chronicles, which is one of the best journals following this day-to-day, the cultural aspects, all of it. | ||
| Pedro, before I get to this article you wrote, which is, quite frankly, amazing, and I want to go through the examples of that, and we'll have Denver put it up in a second, Tulsi Gabbard, so Mitt Romney, A real national security expert. | ||
| Mitt Romney tweets out yesterday, Tulsi Gabbard spreading disinformation. | ||
| She put a video up, a TikTok or something. | ||
| She's spreading disinformation about what Victoria Nuland calls, as she's tippy-toeing through there, the biological research facilities and the biological research materials that the United States is so concerned about. | ||
| We're concerned about the biological research materials falling into Russian hands. | ||
| That's her words, not mine. | ||
| At a Senate hearing, she said that to Marco Rubio, answering questions. | ||
| And this obviously can't be bench experiments from guys from Sub-Saharan Africa, or India, or Poland, or wherever. | ||
| These great university towns Ukraine has, they're trained people. | ||
| It can't be that, although my good friend Dr. Hadfield tried to convince me of that. | ||
| I said, Dr. Hadfield, I don't know if I'm convinced. | ||
| Because Victoria Nuland saying, we're deeply concerned about the biological research material falling into Russian hands. | ||
| So then Tulsi came back today and this all been taken down. | ||
| I think she came back and said, hey, Mitt Romney should apologize and resign. | ||
| Who is right in this regard? | ||
| Do we know enough in your mind, Pedro, about exactly what's going on with the biological research facilities that have the biological research materials that Victoria Nuland and others are so concerned could fall into Russian hands, sir? | ||
| I think that framing already sets up the issue. | ||
| Do we know enough? | ||
| Mitt Romney says that we do. | ||
| And we have to assume that anything that happens next is Russia's fault. | ||
| Tulsi Gabbard is saying, we don't, and we should look into this further. | ||
| And for that, Mitt Romney is saying, this is essentially treason. | ||
| That tells you a lot. | ||
| And again, these are the same people that, by the way, Mitt Romney's never fired a shot in anger. | ||
| He's never going to find himself on the front lines of war. | ||
| And he has never disliked a war that he doesn't have to fight. | ||
| These are the same people that used A quasi-false flag scenario, Saddam Hussein has WMDs in Iraq, to get us into a war that resulted in over a million people dead. | ||
| It destabilized that part of the world and ultimately helped usher in ISIS. | ||
| But now we're supposed to uncritically swallow everything that they say and do it again, this time in Europe, against a country that actually has WMDs, in this case nuclear weapons, to set aside any debate over The chemical weapons and biological research which by the way it really does look like the United States in fact has been up to that in Ukraine. | ||
| Victoria Nuland's testimony backfired horrendously for her and Marco Rubio because all she had to say was no. | ||
| But she didn't say no. | ||
| She said we've been conducting research there and it would be awful if Russians got their hands on it. | ||
| If it's something benign or merely defensive or innocuous, you wouldn't say something like that. | ||
| And Marco Rubio's follow up question wouldn't be, well, anything to the contrary is Russian disinformation, right? | ||
| That entire exchange backfired for both of these people. | ||
| And that's why you've had this kind of damage control in the media 24 hours ever since then. | ||
| So I think it's easy to say that Tulsi Gabbard is on the right side here and Mitt Romney is wrong, like he has been his entire life. | ||
| I want to go back. | ||
| Joe Scarborough, we heard this in a lot of, I know people that read you and follow you, even my production staff, a lot of guys in Denver, are too young to remember. | ||
| They were young children back in the early parts of the century. | ||
| But on the March 4th, and you see some of the same people on TV, though, the same, it's the same crew at Fox News, right? | ||
| The drumbeat for war, Toxins of War. | ||
| But Joe Scarborough this morning, about this whole thing of chemical weapons, and now all weekend, maniacally focused on chemical weapons. | ||
| In and I understand Russia has cyber offense capability and cyber that's unparalleled. | ||
| They have nuclear weapons, right? | ||
| Obviously, they have had philatelic. | ||
| They have biological weapons, a sophisticated biological program that's even better than the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And we see what's happened there. | ||
| But now this big push for chemical weapons in Ukraine. | ||
| Is this another? | ||
| Are they taking the same playbook? | ||
| On mass psychosis, on convincing the American people they're weapons of mass destruction. | ||
| Because the same thing they said in Syria, with the chemical attacks in Syria, correct me if I'm wrong, I think the chemical attack that Mattis said happened, we found out six months later actually hadn't happened. | ||
| All the pictures were kind of phony pictures. | ||
| So the same thing that got Trump to do the cruise missile, of which has been deeply reported, There was one person that said, I don't think we should do that. | ||
| And that was Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| OK, because I don't know if he really got the goods on this. | ||
| So is this the drumbeat of Scarborough and all these rank amateurs to try to force us into another weapons of mass destruction scare in Ukraine? | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| The gray zone did incredible coverage of the Assad chemical weapons thing, which they argued that and they backed up with a lot of evidence that the whole thing was basically doctored. | ||
| To make it look as if Assad had done something that justified, you know, a broader international response. | ||
| But everyone has forgotten about that or we're still in denial about it. | ||
| Just like we're still there are still some corners of the conservative movement. | ||
| You can find them at National Review. | ||
| You can find them on Fox. | ||
| You can find them on CNN increasingly. | ||
| And they're unrepentant about the Iraq war. | ||
| They don't care that they were wrong about everything. | ||
| They don't care that all these people were killed for nothing. | ||
| So naturally these same people are going to say anything to get us into the next war with Ukraine for various reasons. | ||
| But I think this actually gets into the broader discussion of how almost everything that has come out of Ukraine and gone viral that has kind of inched us toward escalating the conflict into World War III featuring nuclear weapons has been either a half-truth or a total lie. | ||
| Even like the The earliest things, like the Snake Island Massacre, supposedly Russians had killed every Ukrainian soldier on this island to a man. | ||
| President Zelensky himself eulogized them, said they all died violently in the line of duty. | ||
| It was a total lie. | ||
| Pretty quickly, actually. | ||
| Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. | ||
| Snake Island was even more than that. | ||
| Before they died valiantly, they gave the finger, they told the Russians where to put it, right? | ||
| F.U. | ||
| In this heroic thing. | ||
| F.U. | ||
| F.U. | ||
| Russian fleet in the Black Sea. | ||
| F.U. | ||
| And then they died, and then posthumously they were issued the Legion of Honor, the Ukrainian, whatever the highest, it's like the Medal of Honor. | ||
| The Legion of Honor, posthumously. | ||
| Pedro Gonzalez. | ||
| Heroes of heroes. | ||
| They all lived. | ||
| They surrendered peacefully. | ||
| The whole thing was done professionally. | ||
| They were captured. | ||
| They were given aid. | ||
| And honestly, it's a happy ending. | ||
| We should be happy that those men did not die and got to see their families. | ||
| But instead, we created this fantasy that they were massacred. | ||
| And we like to imagine their wives and children weeping over them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's actually really insane and grotesque when you think about the fact that people wanted to believe that they died. | ||
| And you have silly things like the ghost of Kiev, this fighter ace who like shot. | ||
| I think the latest number that I've seen is that he shot down more than 40 Russian fighters on his own. | ||
| The Kiev Post, a pretty big source of media out of Ukraine, actually tweeted that and then deleted it with a picture of just like a random pilot. | ||
| It's actually insane. | ||
| But people want to believe this stuff, so it's easy to sell it. | ||
| The pictures of Zelensky in body armor, where it looks like it's like a still from, you know, the upcoming Netflix documentary with him that I'm sure that we're going to see soon. | ||
| And he's grinning and carrying a helmet. | ||
| Those pictures are from last year, before the war even started. | ||
| It's where he's engaging in these kind of inspection efforts and these diplomatic efforts. | ||
| But it's not from this conflict. | ||
| And again, that's all on the viral. | ||
| Pedro, just hang on, take a short break. | ||
| Where that is, where he's wearing body armor, was in eastern Ukraine. | ||
| Why is he there? | ||
| Because they've been fighting a war there. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Pedro, Gonzalez next. | ||
| Peter Romney, you've called me a treasonous liar simply for stating the fact that there are over 25 U.S.-funded biolabs in Ukraine, which, if breached, would release and spread deadly pathogens across the United States and the world. | ||
| And therefore, they must be secured so that we can prevent any new pandemics from occurring. | ||
| you Now, bizarrely, you claim that securing these labs, or even calling for securing these labs, is treasonous and will lead to a loss of life, when the exact opposite is obviously true. | ||
| The spread of pathogens is what will cause the loss of life, not the prevention of such a spread. | ||
| So, Senator Romney, please provide evidence that what I've said is not true and treasonous. | ||
| And if you cannot, you should do the honorable thing. | ||
| Apologize. | ||
| Resign from the U.S. | ||
| Senate. | ||
| Evidence of the existence of these vile labs in Ukraine, their vulnerability, and therefore the need to take immediate action to secure them, is beyond dispute. | ||
| Just the other day, the State Department's Victoria Nuland acknowledged that these labs, that contain dangerous pathogens, exist in Ukraine in her testimony to the U.S. | ||
| Senate. | ||
| Ukraine has biological research facilities, which in fact we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of. | ||
| So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of In a Pentagon fact sheet dated March 11th, there are numerous statements that both directly and indirectly confirm the existence of these biolabs. | ||
| The United States, through BTRP, has invested approximately $200 million in Ukraine since 2005, supporting 46 Ukrainian laboratories, health facilities, and diagnostic sites. | ||
| On CBS Space The Nation on March 13, CBS national security correspondent David Martin said that he'd spoken to a Pentagon official just that morning who told him they're concerned about the existence of these biolabs in Ukraine. | ||
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The concern is that the Russians will seize one of these biomedical research facilities that Ukraine has where they do research on deadly pathogens like botulism and anthrax, seize one of those facilities, weaponize the pathogen, and then blame it on Ukraine and the U.S. | |
| because the U.S. | ||
| has been providing support for some of the research being done in those facilities. | ||
| In April of 2020, in refuting Russia's accusations that the U.S. | ||
| was using biolabs in Ukraine to develop biological weapons, the U.S. | ||
| Embassy in Ukraine acknowledged that there are U.S.-funded labs in Ukraine working with pathogens for vaccines and other peaceful purposes. | ||
| In a CNN fact check on March 10, 2022, there are U.S.-funded biolabs in Ukraine. | ||
| That much is true. | ||
| Furthermore, according to the DoD, there are two biolabs in Ukraine that have been under Russian control for quite some time. | ||
| Russia illegally took possession of two Ukrainian owned laboratories that BTRP upgraded in 2014 and continues to deny Ukrainian access to these facilities. | ||
| So Senator Romney, you have a choice. | ||
| Out of pride, continue to deny the truth or admit that you're wrong. | ||
| Apologize and resign. | ||
| Aloha. | ||
| And remember that without the truth, we can be neither safe nor free. | ||
| Up in his grill. | ||
| So the history of Mitts and his family, the Romney family, avoiding service or putting it on working class people to fight their wars in their total disregard for the United States of America is voluminous. | ||
| And I can go to that in detail. | ||
| But today is not the day to do it. | ||
| But Tulsi Gabbard has completely gotten up his grill. | ||
| Put up or shut up, dude. | ||
| You said it was treasonous what she said. | ||
| Bring it forward. | ||
| What were the facts that show that what she said is wrong or treasonous? | ||
| Do it. | ||
| And you should apologize. | ||
| If you can't do it, you should resign. | ||
| Pedro Gonzalez, your retort to Tulsi Gabbard getting in Mitt Romney's grill. | ||
| I don't think Pierre Delecto is going to recover from that. | ||
| I think that Tulsi is totally right. | ||
| And I mean, it's really insane when you think about that what Mitt Romney is doing is in fact endangering Civilian lives. | ||
| He's endangering lives everywhere by lying about this, about, like Tulsi said, this much is true. | ||
| The labs are there and we should do something about it. | ||
| Romney's denialism actually makes people less safe. | ||
| So we would rather lie to ourselves in the world than do what we need to do in order to make sure that whatever is in these labs doesn't get out and hurt people. | ||
| But like Tulsi said, this seems to be about pride. | ||
| Or maybe Romney actually doesn't know and he's actually just extremely ignorant and that's not beyond the pale of belief that he's really that simple and now he's kind of in this pickle where he's confronted with a ton of evidence. | ||
| On the transition, we had Tulsi Gabbard come in and talk to us about a potential position, and we had Mitt Romney. | ||
| Her level of knowledge was 10 light years better than Mitt Romney. | ||
| He didn't know anything. | ||
| Typical guy, he's got to go back, and once he got briefed, he could get briefed and understand the briefing, but he had no deep knowledge. | ||
| On top of this, Pedro, here's the point that it's worse. | ||
| Mitt Romney was the driving force in back of the letter sent to Biden. | ||
| 42 senators, he corralled them all, 42 senators signed that would escalate this war out of control by sending the MiGs, which by the way wouldn't help because you don't have the logistics, you don't have the flight crews, you don't have the ability to provide for these on this insanity of Trump presenting a no-fly zone. | ||
| Mitt Romney drove that Then had the gall to call her a traitor for what she's trying to de-escalate and save lives and get this thing sorted out and put to bed. | ||
| He's trying to escalate. | ||
| Pedro Gonzalez. | ||
| No, that's exactly right. | ||
| Anyone with half a brain knows that that kind of thing, like establishing a no-fly zone, would inevitably result in an escalation that would turn this thing into a world war. | ||
| And it seems like, again, out of either stupidity or just Corruption and negligence. | ||
| I mean, you name it. | ||
| There's so many different factors here. | ||
| That is the direction the United States establishment, with few exceptions like Tulsi Gabbard, that is the direction they want to take us in. | ||
| You've got Lindsey Graham, who has alternated between calls for someone assassinating Putin to establishing a no-fly zone. | ||
| All of these things are incredibly dangerous. | ||
| And if you think that what is happening now is bad, that kind of escalation Would result in millions more people getting killed. | ||
| I mean, we're talking about the possibility of nuclear war here. | ||
| I mean, millions is, you know, that's actually kind of a conservative estimate. | ||
| I think we have to really understand that Russia has a lot more tactical nuclear weapons in Europe than the United States does. | ||
| And in general, I think the nuclear arsenal in general is actually larger than ours. | ||
| There seems to be a consensus that Russia is actually willing to use these weapons, especially the tactical nuclear ones, to send a message in Europe. | ||
| And again, we're playing with fire here. | ||
| But the people that are playing with fire are the ones that will never see the front lines. | ||
| They're the ones that have really nothing to lose from talking the way that people like Mitt Romney and Lindsey Graham talk. | ||
| All of us do. | ||
| And by the way, modern warfare is hybrid warfare. | ||
| You have information war, which we're seeing with Tulsi Gabbard and with Mitt Romney. | ||
| You have cyber warfare, which they're a first among peers as far as the power goes. | ||
| You have economic warfare and you have kinetic. | ||
| You're seeing the kinetic on TV, but unrestricted warfare, which is hybrid warfare. | ||
| We're at the United States is that offensive DEFCON one economic war. | ||
| We're trying to destroy the central bank. | ||
| We sweat two thirds of their foreign reserves, so they can't pay for anything, can't do transactions. | ||
| And we're trying to crush the ruble, the stock market can't open, because we want to break the Russian people so they turn and we have regime change. | ||
| Are you comfortable with that? | ||
| That Biden and the Republicans have not forced him to come to Capitol Hill? | ||
| Zelensky is going to speak on Wednesday. | ||
| Here's my point. | ||
| Joe Biden shouldn't worry about going to Europe. | ||
| What Joe Biden should do is follow Zelensky and make the case to the American people of why we're at offensive economic war against the Russian people. | ||
| The last time I looked, Our allies in World War Two, Pedro Gonzalez. | ||
| Well, I think on the one hand, sanctions, these kinds of sanctions, they haven't worked. | ||
| They have a long track record of not working and in some cases actually galvanizing the population, which I think is going to happen in Russia. | ||
| From what we know, and I mean, you have to really cut through the New York Times and the Associated Press here, these sanctions, they're not having the effect that we hope that they would have, which is that people get really angry at Putin and overthrow the government and then Poof, you get a democratic Russia overnight. | ||
| That's not really happening. | ||
| And there's some evidence that suggests it's backfiring, that these sanctions are targeting civilians so dramatically that it's actually turning them against the West, which would make perfect sense, because like you said, we're persecuting people that have nothing to do with this conflict. | ||
| Setting aside the sanctions, the kind of nation-state level cancel culture that we're practicing right now, Culturally isolating and socially stigmatizing an entire race of people to the point where Facebook metaproducts are allowing limited reasonable calls for violence against Russians right now. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| You've got all these examples of different artistic ventures like symphonies and choirs that are firing people of Russian descent or Russian nationals. | ||
| You've got CCM Hockey, which produces a bunch of hockey products in Canada, that they're cutting ties with Russian players who they use in their advertising right now. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| All of this stuff, not only will it probably backfire, but you're also doing something that is just so profoundly immoral. | ||
| You're becoming what you claim the other side is by dehumanizing an entire group of people that has nothing to do with this. | ||
| That's, I mean, that's not American. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| That's not patriotic. | ||
| Like, that's not who we are as people. | ||
| But the media is telling us that we are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's also stupid. | ||
| This is why, this is why, let's go back to Drudge. | ||
| This is why Drudge has got the headline. | ||
| She's the winner here. | ||
| We're forcing the Russian people into the arms of the transnational criminal organization, the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Pedro, can you just stay for, I know you're busy. | ||
| Can you stay for a few more minutes? | ||
| A short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to go to the border that we care about. | ||
| We're going to go to Ben Burquam on the southern border of the United States. | ||
| In the Rio Grande Valley, where the tectonic plate shift that's going to blow out the Democratic Party in November 8th of this year is taking place. | ||
| Be back, we've got Pedro Gonzalez from Chronicles Magazine, Ben Burquam is going to join us from the Rio Grande Valley. | ||
| All next, you got it in The War Room. | ||
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| It's all focused on trying to overthrow Putin, trying to have regime change. | ||
| Pedro, real quickly, how can people, how can this audience, You know, every day we're trying to be a still point in a turning world and give them information they can use. | ||
| But with the fog of war, and not just that, the misinformation, a lot of it coming from conservative sources, particularly Fox News, which has just been as big a Fox News. | ||
| They were a cheerleader for the Iraq war. | ||
| And look what that got us. | ||
| They were a cheerleader for the Afghanistan war. | ||
| Look what that got us. | ||
| They're the biggest cheerleader for this. | ||
| So what are people to do? | ||
| What's your recommendation? | ||
| I think I should start by saying I have never seen this kind of misinformation, this level of misinformation and this level of organization around any kind of issue. | ||
| I spoke to Glenn Greenwald about this and he said that the kind of consensus that is emerging right now about what is happening and what we need to do around Ukraine, which all points towards war, he said that it's actually worse than the 9-11 era kind of lead up to the Iraq war, which I think other people have said that as well. | ||
| We're in uncharted waters here. | ||
| I think this is like the real beginning of fifth generation warfare, where the information warfare is in some ways more important than the kinetic warfare. | ||
| But that being said, I think people have to trust their gut. | ||
| I don't know how else to put it. | ||
| If something just strikes you as wrong or misleading or emotionally manipulative, then it probably is all of those things. | ||
| And you should trust your suspicions. | ||
| You should be extremely skeptical of everything Everyone says in the media right now, conservative or liberal, whether it's Rachel Maddow or Mark Levin, who pretty much sounded like Mitt Romney. | ||
| Mark Levin is a beloved conservative figure, right? | ||
| For some people. | ||
| And he, he sounded exactly like Mitt Romney, uh, talking about the, the whole biochem issue recently. | ||
| So I think it's important to know that you need to be extremely critical of what people are saying right now, regardless of, of their official political variation, because Everyone is on the same page right now. | ||
| Conservatives and liberals in the media are united in beating the war drum. | ||
| And that is a really bad place to be for America. | ||
| So trust your suspicions and try to find people that you can rely on. | ||
| I mean, I'm doing my best to verify everything that I report. | ||
| I know that your team is too, Steve. | ||
| But like I said, it's a difficult question to answer because we are truly in uncharted waters when it comes to information warfare right now. | ||
| But here's what, you tell me the Trump revolution and how much we've made this movement at the end of the day. | ||
| The senior members of the Republican Party, the lobbyists that make their money here, all the Uniparty, the donors, they are neoliberal neocons, and you don't have to scratch very deeply to see it. | ||
| Just like the Stone Election on November 3rd of 2020 was providential, and now that we've seen what the other side is prepared to do to destroy our country, and that's why you're seeing a righteous indignation, we're going to go to the Rio Grande Valley here in a moment, that people are rising up to take their country back. | ||
| This is providential. | ||
| And here's what's providential about it. | ||
| Just sit there and watch with your own eyes. | ||
| Who's spinning you on a march to war? | ||
| And this is the same group of senators, Mitt Romney's guys, that in the middle of the night, at 3 o'clock in the morning, passed a $1.3 trillion unpaid for. | ||
| OK. | ||
| Discretionary spending bill that had all this crap in it. | ||
| But they had to do it because 14 billion dollars, 14 billion dollars, which I think East St. | ||
| Louis, Detroit and Baltimore would want. | ||
| But 14 billion dollars had to go to Ukraine. | ||
| It was so important to get it done that in the middle of night, they did not read a 2700 page bill because they don't care because they don't care about you. | ||
| This is neoliberal neocons. | ||
| And you're seeing who's running this country right now, Pedro Gonzalez. | ||
| No, it's totally right. | ||
| I mean, these people, the neoconservatives and neoliberals differ only in degree and approach to the issues, but they do not fundamentally disagree on anything. | ||
| They have more in common with each other than they do with people like you or I. That much is certain. | ||
| And I think it's important to understand that what they're saying we should do to Russia Like when Jennifer Rubin is talking about, you know, the atrocious things that we should do to the civilian population in Russia. | ||
| When Michael McFaul at Stanford tweets that he doesn't think that there's any such thing as an innocent or neutral Russian, which he deleted that tweet because it's insane. | ||
| But when they say stuff like that, they're thinking about you. | ||
| They're thinking about middle America. | ||
| I think that is really important to understand is that Russia is a stand in for middle America, Russian civilians, Russian citizens, people that have nothing to do with this war. | ||
| They're trying to make it seem as if it's about Putin and democracy. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| This is a kind of civil. | ||
| I mean, they understand it as a kind of civilizational conflict, and they're putting you on the other side of it. | ||
| And like I said, every time they talk about doing these horrible things, To the Russian people, you should know that in the back of their mind, they're thinking about deplorables. | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
| That's the standard. | ||
| Pedro, how do people get to Chronicles, your writing, and how are they following on social media? | ||
| So you can follow me. | ||
| My personal substack is contra.substack.com, and my columns and other writings appear at chroniclesmagazine.org. | ||
| Pedro, thank you very much. | ||
| Already getting shout-outs from people already about your appearance. | ||
| Really look forward to having you back on. | ||
| Thanks for having me back, Steve. | ||
| The great Jack Pasovic, and people should understand if you want to stay totally up-to-date on this thing non-stop, go to Jack Pasovic's Twitter feed, or better than that, his Getter feed. | ||
| Pasovic's all over this. | ||
| He sent me something earlier that Anna Cabrera tweeted out. | ||
| No fan of the war room, but she was giving a quote by Kimberly Dozier, one of the best correspondents out there. | ||
| I think she was hurt in Afghanistan. | ||
| I think it was that she got Or maybe Iraq, where she took an incoming and really was damaged, had to work her way back to health. | ||
| But Kimberly Doziers reporting, Zelensky said in an interview that he is now cooling to the idea of joining NATO. | ||
| He says NATO doesn't want them. | ||
| Therefore, why not make a deal to stay neutral and get some of his country back? | ||
| Hello? | ||
| The EU played patty cake with me. | ||
| They made all these commitments. | ||
| That's what we see people on TV. | ||
| You committed. | ||
| You committed to me. | ||
| NATO committed. | ||
| EU committed. | ||
| And what's happening? | ||
| You have left them to their own fate. | ||
| You have led those people into a slaughter pen. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| You've led them into a slaughter pen. | ||
| And you're sitting here with all your highfalutin talk. | ||
| What we should be doing is a to force these guys use a forcing function again to the negotiating table and let them work out their differences on the eastern on the Russian speaking eastern provinces and down there in the south in this situation we're getting to more of it tomorrow Maripol what's exactly going on there and who the Azov battalion is and why we're financing them and what are they actually doing that we're going to get to all of that. | ||
| And no, Mitt Romney, it's not treasonous. | ||
| What you did, sir, is outrageous and try to escalate this. | ||
| And here's the reason you're a clown. | ||
| Never served your country, ran away when you should have served your country, to France, hid behind your religion. | ||
| Right? | ||
| We'll go into all the details, Mitt. | ||
| You, your sons, your father, your family, all of it. | ||
| In detail. | ||
| Excruciating detail. | ||
| About not just your cowardice, your physical cowardice, but your moral cowardice. | ||
| Also, coming out of China, nothing but bad news here. | ||
| Out of Shenzhen, they're shutting down, I think the Shanghai schools have shut down. | ||
| Shenzhen, Shenzhen is the railhead of the supply chain. | ||
| That is where Silicon Valley has essentially moved many, or Wall Street has moved many of the factories that make the high electronics, that make so much stuff that comes to the West, of this massive trade deficit, $1 trillion trade deficit last year. | ||
| The All Made Senjan is really old Canton. | ||
| That's what it's called, right? | ||
| Canton down there on the Pearl River by Hong Kong. | ||
| 17 million people in lockdown. | ||
| I think the Shanghai school system has been cancelled now. | ||
| They're talking, is this Deltacron? | ||
| They think it may be a combination of the Delta and Omicron variant. | ||
| All coming out now on Twitter. | ||
| Different information sources. | ||
| We're going to try to get more to you. | ||
| Maybe even in the next hour of exactly what's going on. | ||
| But they got Hong Kong was locked down. | ||
| Now they've locked down Shenzhen. | ||
| I think total 17 million people. | ||
| And when they lock it down, you know they got a problem. | ||
| Okay, let's go to the border that we really care about, and that is the southern border of the United States. | ||
| We're going to go to Real America's Voice top investigative reporter, Ben Berquam, who's down in La Jolla, Texas, about 20 miles outside. | ||
| La Jolla is about 20-30 miles outside of McAllen, Texas, down in that part of the Rio Grande Valley. | ||
| Ben, the first question for you is, how important is the eastern border The sovereignty, the territorial integrity of Ukraine to the folks down, bearing the brunt of the invasion on the southern border, the great Hispanic American working class folks down there in the Rio Grande Valley, sir? | ||
| Almost none. | ||
| It's almost not important at all other than the fact that it's impacting the people that live here and I'm standing at a gas station right now that where the price of diesel is almost five dollars a gallon and what Joe Biden and the Democrats have done to this community is that that Pisses off the community but really does is what we saw this morning. | ||
| I was riding with La Jolla, Texas PD and Before we got here. | ||
| There were two bailouts There were two pursuits right before we got here soon as we got in the car. | ||
| We were driving around We we captured another group of illegals I've got some video of a one of the the cartel smugglers who's believed to be part of the Gulf cartel that simply come into America and then just a few minutes after that we went down up the road and To my right here, where another group was crossing into the desert and we captured them getting brought back into the community. | ||
| And then we drove into this community. | ||
| It's very small. | ||
| As you mentioned, we're about 20 minutes away from McAllen, Texas. | ||
| La Jolla, Texas is the epicenter for the invasion of America. | ||
| And the worst part about this is the cartels live here. | ||
| They live in these communities. | ||
| And we went to three properties that had been seized by La Jolla, Texas PD for their cartel activities, their RICO crimes. | ||
| They're actually going through the cases right now, and they're in normal affluent communities, they're in poor communities, they're all throughout here. | ||
| That's what the people of the Rio Grande Valley worry about. | ||
| They worry about their children playing in these streets and getting shot or picked up and sold into sex trafficking or part of this cartel activity that will end up leading them to a life in prison. | ||
| This is what the folks here worry about, and that's why we're seeing them turn away from the Democrats in droves, not to mention everything else Joe Biden's doing on the energy Also, I want to bring up, I think it was in Afghanistan, of the 13 heroes who died, I think 6 or 7 were Hispanic Americans. | ||
| border. We're seeing a mass exodus from the Democrat party by the folks of the Rio Grande Valley. | ||
| Also, I want to bring up, I think it was in Afghanistan, of the 13 heroes who died, I think six or seven were Hispanic Americans. Remember, I think it's 50 percent of Marine Corps rifle platoons, rifle squads, are made up of Hispanics. | ||
| The valor and courage to defend their country, the patriotism doesn't come any higher than it comes from Hispanic Americans, particularly down in the Rio Grande Valley. One of the young men was actually from Laredo, which Laredo likes to argue they're the capital, not McAllen of the Rio Grande Valley at the other end of it. But what about their patriotism and their valor? I mean, this going to war in Ukraine. | ||
| It's going to be kids from La Jolla, Texas. | ||
| Not Mitt Romney's sons. | ||
| We know that, okay? | ||
| It's not going to be any of the wealthy sons. | ||
| It's not going to be the people in Congress and the senators. | ||
| It's going to be these kids down the Rio Grande Valley. | ||
| Ben Berkow. | ||
| You drive through this community and what do you see? | ||
| You see American flags flying. | ||
| You see patriotism. | ||
| This community, and a lot of that is quiet. | ||
| A lot of times they won't come out and tell you that they oppose the cartels because they're worried for their lives. | ||
| The people down here, I just took off my bulletproof vest that La Jolla, Texas PD makes me wear when I ride with them because the danger is real here. | ||
| They do not care. | ||
| They are not worried about the Ukrainian border. | ||
| They're worried about the U.S. | ||
| southern border that is actively being invaded. | ||
| And while we are being distracted, And deflected by all this other news around the world and these war hawks that you're talking about trying to lead us into another war. | ||
| The last thing the people here want to do is send their sons and daughters off to die for somebody else's border when our border is being invaded. | ||
| You're absolutely right, Steve. | ||
| Ben Berkwam, you hang on. | ||
| We're gonna stick with you. | ||
| We're gonna take a short break. | ||
| Back to Ben Berkwam down in the Rio Grande Valley next. | ||
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| But here's a question. | ||
| Since they've taken our eye off the ball with, or trying to take our eye off the ball, not the Warriors, trying to take the eye of the public's, the eye off the ball, With this issue in Ukraine, on the eastern border of Ukraine and the Russian-speaking provinces about this border dispute they're having. | ||
| Are we still undergoing an invasion on the southern border from the perspective of the folks living down there, sir? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's a perfect question. | ||
| I was just with the President of the Border Patrol Council, Brandon Judd, this weekend at President Trump's rally in Florence, South Carolina, and he told me something that's shocking because we're not hearing it anywhere else other than here. | ||
| They're anticipating the highest number of illegal apprehensions this March ever in history since they've been recording it. | ||
| They're anticipating over 180,000 this March, this month. | ||
| That's what they're on track for. | ||
| And we're talking about half of those fighting-age men, age 18 to 35, just like the men that we caught this morning crossing our border. | ||
| This is what is happening on a daily basis in America. | ||
| This is an invasion. | ||
| It is an invasion of our country. | ||
| And on top of that, we actually had more Russians invade last year than we've ever had in American history. | ||
| 151 different countries, half of those fighting-age men all coming in now, and the numbers are only increasing. | ||
| This is a disaster for America in the making, and to me it's actually more sinister than what's happening in Ukraine. | ||
| When you see what's happening in Ukraine, outside of the propaganda where we can't trust the information coming from either side, it's visceral. | ||
| It's right in front of your face. | ||
| What's happening in America, the takedown of America, is happening quietly. | ||
| In large part because of the complicit media. | ||
| That's why we're here. | ||
| That's why Real America's Voice is here. | ||
| That's why we have the new show Law & Border. | ||
| Just wait till you see the footage that we got from today for the new episodes and what we're going to get tomorrow and the next days. | ||
| It is absolutely an invasion of this country and it's only getting worse. | ||
| Ben, talk to us about, first off, talk to us real quickly about the rally. | ||
| How was, I understand the crowd was bitter, the weather was terrible, but I heard the crowd was unbelievable. | ||
| Give us your perspective on that. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You know, Trump supporters are some of those loyal and passionate. | ||
| There's no question about it, the Republican Party is a MAGA party right now. | ||
| Anyone who says otherwise is lying to you. | ||
| These people came out, and I would estimate somewhere between 5,000 and 6,000. | ||
| I heard between 5,000 and 10,000 was the number that was estimated there. | ||
| But either way, you're talking about thousands of people that came out in tornado weather. | ||
| We had tornado warnings all morning. | ||
| And these people came out, it was freezing cold, it was raining all morning, and thousands of people came out. | ||
| More people than Joe Biden has ever had at any one of his rallies ever, probably combined, on Saturday. | ||
| And they're only getting more passionate as the Republican establishment wants to move away from President Trump. | ||
| There's no question about it. | ||
| The Republican Party is MAGA. | ||
| That's what they want. | ||
| They want populism. | ||
| They don't want another war. | ||
| They don't want a global war. | ||
| They want us to secure our borders. | ||
| They want more energy. | ||
| They want more drilling. | ||
| They want the exact opposite. | ||
| Of what Joe Biden and the rhinos are offering. | ||
| By the way, I want to remind everybody at 11 p.m. | ||
| tonight on Real America's Voice, this will be the primetime show Frank Gaffney Securing Freedom is going to be on. | ||
| I gotta tell you, in the middle of this war, it couldn't have been, or the start of this war, it couldn't be something better. | ||
| Frank Gaffney only gets the best guests, talks about the toughest issues. | ||
| Real America Voice tonight, 11 o'clock, Frank Gaffney. | ||
| Real quickly, you've got, tell us about your show on Real America's Voice. | ||
| The first one was a blockbuster, when are people going to see the rest? | ||
| We'll have new episodes out in April. | ||
| Again, Law & Border. | ||
| You can only get it on Real America's Voice. | ||
| It'll be airing on Saturdays. | ||
| And that's what we're doing. | ||
| We're bringing to you what the mainstream media and really, frankly, almost all of the media isn't showing you. | ||
| The real invasion that matters to the American people and especially to the people that live down here in the Rio Grande Valley. | ||
| Law & Border. | ||
| We'll have new episodes coming in April. | ||
| Okay, real quickly. | ||
| How do people get to you and follow you? | ||
| You're sending social media out all the time on the border. | ||
| How can people get to you, Ben? | ||
| At Ben Berquam, on Getter, on Truth Social, and FrontlineAmerica.com, and then of course, AmericasVoice.news. | ||
| Okay, thank you very much, Ben Berquam. | ||
| Okay, on Getter, on Frank's speech, on WarRoom.org, on Rumble, all of it. | ||
| We're going to go to a battleground here in a moment. | ||
| We're going to take a short break, go to battleground tonight. | ||
| We got Emerald Robinson. | ||
| Emerald Robinson's on. | ||
| She put a sub stack out today. | ||
| She got 25 things she wants to drill down on on voter integrity. | ||
| We got the Star News Service. | ||
| We're going to talk about the 30 districts, the 30 districts that they are following minutely. | ||
| Going to have polling in back of the 30 districts, either open districts or controlled by Democrats that are in play, that are going to shift the, not just shift the Congress, but be the kind of the bedrock For the 100 seats, 100 years. | ||
| By 100 seats we mean we pick up 100 seats. | ||
| Remember, keep in mind we have a unique opportunity this November. | ||
| Up and down the ballot. | ||
| Okay, up and down the ballot to destroy the Democratic Party as a national political institution. | ||
| That is all there before us. | ||
| All it's going to take is people putting their shoulder to the wheel and working. | ||
| Today we're going to go through the first phase, kind of the first tranche of 30 of those districts. | ||
| We've got Emerald Robinson. | ||
| We're also going to go into Colorado. | ||
| The canvas is out in Colorado, the second report. | ||
| We're going to get to the bottom of all that. | ||
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