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Freedom! Freedom! Freedom! | ||
Oh All right, today is 2 February, Year of the Lord 2022. | ||
You are in the War Room. | ||
I am Jack Posobiec. | ||
I am sitting in for the Generalissimo. | ||
He is out with personal matters to attend to today, and our prayers are with him. | ||
But the work goes on. | ||
We are putting our shoulders To the wheel and we are continuing on we've got a huge show today so we are going to take you starting of course from the frozen tundra the great north the true north of Canada and the trucker uprising that is taking place up there we're going to be sweeping around we're going to go to Beijing we're going to talk about the Olympics that are going today action-packed episode huge lineup of guests we've also got people we're going to be talking about Ukraine | ||
Where President Biden, because he's pursuing this wag the dog strategy, is sending more American troops into harm's way. | ||
It's just been announced, breaking only minutes ago, before we went live today, that President Biden will now be deploying thousands of American troops, additional troops, to Eastern Europe as he is escalating the standoff with Russia. | ||
We're also hearing, of course, in economic news, US payrolls fell 300,000 jobs. | ||
300,000 jobs. They were supposed to add 200,000 in January, down 300,000, a delta of $500,000, or 500,000 jobs. You are seeing an economy that's in freefall. | ||
You're seeing an administration that's in freefall. And you've got President Trump out there going after Lindsey Graham. | ||
You're seeing this wag the dog. All of this is breaking loose. Justin Trudeau, the prime minister, he's in hiding, still in hiding up there. Looks like he's at some lake house, some cabin up in the woods, won't actually have the dignity and the respect to simply meet with the truckers that supported him, that actually supported everybody that upheld these lockdowns. | ||
If you've been living... | ||
And in one of these blue cities, and supporting these lockdowns, and saying, hey, we just need more lockdowns, we need to be able to sit and watch Netflix and snuggle up, and that's what we need, and remote work, work from home. | ||
You've been eating, and you've been living, because the truckers never stopped trucking. | ||
The truckers continued on. | ||
Well now, when you're cracking down on the truckers, they're saying, no mas. | ||
Not going with it anymore. | ||
So I want to bring on now, Ezra Levant, who is the publisher of Rebel News, Who actually has people out there, not only in Ottawa, but the brave truckers that are standing at the border crossing in Alberta, where they are holding the line against these mandates and against this tyranny. | ||
Ezra, tell us what's going on. | ||
What's the scene? | ||
Jack, great to see you again. | ||
You are our most successful alumnus. | ||
I remember when you were a Rebel and you are continuing that tradition. | ||
So thank you for inviting me on. | ||
We do have two rebel reporters embedded in that blockade. | ||
It's at the border crossing between Alberta and the U.S. | ||
state of Montana. | ||
It's in a village called Cootes. | ||
It's really nothing more than a customs checkpoint. | ||
Lots of trucking between, you know, the heartland. | ||
That's prairie country. | ||
That's oil and gas country. | ||
And this was like an echo convoy to the big one in Ottawa. | ||
The thing is, they decided to actually block the road. | ||
I guess they thought, we're going to be out of a job anyways. | ||
Let's go out in a blaze of glory. | ||
And it's not just big trucks. | ||
There's heavy farm equipment. | ||
There's, there's massive tandem semis. | ||
Like these are enormous vehicles. | ||
There's also smaller ones too. | ||
And there's about 500 men there. | ||
Now, that's more than live in the village. | ||
So they're sleeping in their cabs. | ||
By the way, it's about minus 20 degrees centigrade there. | ||
And they just had a vote. | ||
They had a meeting in the saloon and they created this political council and they had a vote. | ||
They're not moving. | ||
And they got a little spooked when the Mounties surrounded the village, cut off all the accesses, set up checkpoints, Over 40 police vehicles and actually the police started to have sort of a siege. | ||
They wouldn't let more diesel fuel in. | ||
They wouldn't let more food in or medicine. | ||
And the reason why diesel was important, like I say, they're all sleeping in their trucks. | ||
So they need to keep their motors running to stay warm. | ||
It's minus 20 there. | ||
So it was a bit of a standoff. | ||
So two nights ago, I got a phone call from one of our reporters embedded with the men. | ||
And they put me on speakerphone, and they know that we like to crowdfund things, Jack. | ||
We like to crowdfund lawyers. | ||
That's one of the things we do. | ||
And they said, can you help us get a lawyer? | ||
Because they felt that the RCMP, the Mounties, were not negotiating with them in good faith. | ||
Like I said, they were trying to starve them out. | ||
So I agreed, and we set up truckerlawyer.ca. | ||
We crowdfunded some dough, and we got a lawyer We headed down immediately. | ||
In fact, there's two lawyers on the scene and a third that's engaged. | ||
The lawyer is acting as a mediator and negotiator between the truckers and the Mounties. | ||
And obviously, if there are any charges, the lawyer will defend these men. | ||
Yesterday was an incredibly dramatic showdown. | ||
As soon as our lawyers arrived, by the way, the cops said negotiations over. | ||
Which was quite a dramatic power move, as soon as the truckers had a strong legal advocate. | ||
I mean, they're plain-spoken truckers. | ||
They're used to trucking. | ||
They're not used to, you know, silver-tongued devils negotiating. | ||
Like, I think that the RCMP, the Mounties, were taking advantage of the truckers. | ||
We send in a top-gun lawyer, the Mounties immediately disengage and they announce, we're coming to arrest you all if you don't move. | ||
Well, the truckers held firm. | ||
The Mounties, that the RCMP presented, I don't know, there was maybe 10 or 15 of them, but you got 500 big men. | ||
See, on the screen now, you're showing Ottawa. | ||
And Ottawa is a major city, about a million people. | ||
They could theoretically have thousands of police with heavy equipment on the scene very quickly. | ||
But remember, Cootes, Alberta is about four hours south of the big city of Calgary. | ||
It's in the middle of the prairies. | ||
How are you going to move A hundred trucks or more. | ||
A hundred trucks. | ||
You can't just... Go ahead. | ||
You know, I was going to say that, you know, there's a phrase that, I don't know, Steve says this all the time, and I say it as well, that amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics. | ||
And so one of the things that I think a lot of people haven't realized about the trucker protests, both in Ottawa and, of course, in Alberta, but even more so for the one in Alberta, that, okay, let's actually talk logistics. | ||
If you do want to round up all these truckers and arrest them, That doesn't mean the trucks leave, right? | ||
The truckers need to be able to drive the trucks. | ||
What are you going to do? | ||
And that seems like it's only, they've got two lanes south, two lanes north there, so they're holding on to that real estate. | ||
Those trucks aren't going. | ||
And I believe I saw a story on Rebel News yesterday that was picked up that the tow truck companies out of Calgary, which is the main city near there, and some of the other surrounding areas in southern Alberta, they're calling them up saying, hey, would you want to come in? | ||
And they're saying, and they're responding saying, look, Those trucking companies are some of our tightest business partners. | ||
This is the community that we serve. | ||
We live here. | ||
We've been here for years. | ||
We want to continue the business. | ||
We don't want to get involved. | ||
And so you actually have truckers standing with other truckers. | ||
A trucker is a trucker is a trucker. | ||
Yeah, and my reference to the big city of Ottawa versus the tiny village of Cootes is in Ottawa, you'll find someone who will rent you a heavy duty tow truck. | ||
I think they might actually need some industrial cranes, mobile cranes to move some of these enormous pieces of farm machinery. | ||
Um, but you just, that's just not there in this little village of Cootes. | ||
And the highways are treacherous. | ||
It's a four-hour drive from the city, like, like you say, logistics. | ||
And there was this incredible showdown, and I don't know if you've got the clip, but folks can see it on our website, of the Mounties and then hundreds of these men, and it's minus 20 out. | ||
And these are not small guys. | ||
These are big truckers. | ||
And seriously, what are you going to do? | ||
Like, I mean, at the end of the day, the state has a monopoly on violence and, you know, you could bring in the SWAT team, you could theoretically bring in the army. | ||
Are you going to shoot people for what? | ||
For essentially a parking ticket? | ||
Yeah, they're parking on a pretty... Well, we've got... Denver, if you can play that clip again, just play it with the audio off of it, but they're chanting, freedom, freedom. | ||
That's them standing right there from Rebel. | ||
It was like Graveheart. | ||
I mean, this seems like... I felt like I was watching Graveheart. | ||
It seems like a scene to view. | ||
Yeah, here it is now. | ||
This seems like something that you'd be watching in a movie theater. | ||
And think of the optics if you go in and start putting these guys in silver bracelets, putting them in handcuffs. | ||
These are the workers. | ||
These are the working men, and there's women there, and there's people. | ||
Look, the frost in their beards saying, we are standing up. | ||
They're chanting, freedom, freedom, freedom. | ||
And the Mounties, and I saw this as well on Rebel, the Mounties walked away. | ||
The Mounties stood down. | ||
Yeah, I mean, if you have a thousand cops and you have, you know, a hundred soft hand city folks, yeah, I'd bet on the cops. | ||
But when you have 20 cops and you got 500 working men who are probably pretty strong and they've made the decision to hold out, what are you going to do? | ||
You think you're going to pack those guys into a car? | ||
You don't think they're going to be able to pull their fellas out? | ||
I mean, unless you're actually going to shoot them, how is this going to end? | ||
And that's the thing, is you need the equipment to move the trucks. | ||
And does the political leadership of Trudeau or the provincial premier, Jason Kenney, will they really authorize the brutal use of force against C-SPAN for what is essentially a glorified parking ticket? | ||
Walk us through that a little bit, because you understand the politics of Canada like nobody else. | ||
Walk us through some of the political dynamics that are at play here. | ||
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I mean, this police force in question, it's our equivalent to the FBI. | ||
It's called the RCMP, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, nicknamed the Mounties. | ||
It's a Canadian symbol. | ||
The Mounties are very well respected, but over the last two years, they've become very politicized. | ||
And I think they're losing some of the respect of the people on the ground. | ||
And it's a funny case because they are the federal police, but the province of Alberta has contract with them that they do policing in rural Alberta. | ||
So it's a police force controlled by Trudeau's commissioner, but that sort of rented out to the province. | ||
So it's politically ambiguous who's really calling the shots and make no mistake. | ||
This is highly selective political policing. | ||
They would never do this to Black Lives Matter or Occupy. | ||
This is a political decision. | ||
Well Trudeau would be out there marching with them as they're pulling down monuments and statues. | ||
And you had people burning down churches last year across Canada. | ||
But Trudeau, he's got a couple of paltry comments to say to them. | ||
But when it comes to Black Lives Matter, and he even said this from his hidey hole cabin, where of course he brought a podium with him when he goes to work remotely, that he said, well, of course I support Black Lives Matter unequivocally, even after everything we've seen. | ||
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Yeah. | ||
Now, there's one wrinkle to it, because, I mean, you could charge these men with some Highway Traffic Act parking. | ||
You could charge them with mischief, which is a very, very minor criminal offense. | ||
But recently, the government has brought in a law to protect what they call critical infrastructure. | ||
And that had in mind eco-terrorists like blowing up oil rigs or whatever. | ||
And yet, last night, the Premier of Alberta, Jason Kenney, who used to be quite a conservative, used to be very liberty-oriented, he raised the specter of charging these men under some sort of quasi-terrorist provision. | ||
But again, how are you going to do that? | ||
Who actually parked the trucks? | ||
There's 500 guys there. | ||
I mean, try building a case beyond a reasonable doubt that this guy did this. | ||
It's such a mess. | ||
We're coming up on one minute left. | ||
Let us know. | ||
I know you have the crowdfund up. | ||
Give us the coordinates again. | ||
Where can people go to support these truckers, to find out the latest updates, and then just to follow all the incredible work, the footage that your men in the field are receiving. | ||
Thanks very much, Jack. | ||
The website is truckerlawyer.ca. | ||
.ca is the Canadian internet suffix. | ||
So, truckerlawyer.ca. | ||
We've actually retained three lawyers for the men. | ||
Two of the lawyers are embedded with the men at the blockade. | ||
They're trying to de-escalate things. | ||
They're trying to negotiate some sort of political solution here. | ||
I wish them luck. | ||
I'm so proud of our reporters for being right in the mix and keeping their cool. | ||
All right. | ||
God bless you guys for doing this. | ||
Stay tuned, everyone. | ||
We are coming up next. | ||
We're going to Ottawa. | ||
We're going to the great legal mind, Viva Frye, who's been out there in the cold, hours and hours, live streaming as War Room continues. | ||
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The trucker standoff continues at the border there. Alberta, Montana, that's really, if you look on the map, it's the main border crossing between Calgary, so the main city of there. It's a huge beef area, poultry. This is a farming area, oil and gas coming down into the Pacific Northwest. This is your main artery. | ||
If you're going to Helena, Montana or out to Portland or out to Seattle, even Spokane, Washington, this is a major thoroughfare. | ||
And so, of course, the truckers. | ||
I would love if there was someone, if you're out there within the sound of my voice, if you're in the War Room Posse, you're up there in Canada, and I know we have a lot of Canadian listeners, you go to mypillow.ca, which is also out there, use promo code WARROOM, go and see if you can support the truckers, bring them some pillows, and go, by the way, help yourself as well, because we know there's a huge winter storm front that's coming through, it's hitting the Midwest, it's coming to the East Coast, this winter is going to be bad. | ||
Look, Punxsutawney Phil just saw his shadow. | ||
Six more weeks of winter. | ||
So you go to MyPillow right now. | ||
MyPillow.com if you're in the U.S. | ||
MyPillow.ca if you're in Canada. | ||
You use promo code WARM, you get the savings up to 66% off. | ||
Now we just finished with Ezra Levant talking about this massive standoff that we saw in Alberta, and that really is a huge focal point and an inflection point in all of us. | ||
But Ottawa has been the main stage, and one YouTuber who's also a lawyer and a fantastic legal mind and just an excellent communicator is Viva Frye, who's based in Canada, runs his show out of there, does a fantastic show, is widely read, widely knowledgeable on a number of issues, but he has been out there Freezing his Tookus off. | ||
Can we say Tookus on War Room? | ||
I think we can say Tookus on War Room. | ||
Out there at all of these things. | ||
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Come on, man. | ||
What's going on? | ||
Tell us what's happening in Ottawa. | ||
So just to contextualize it, I'm from Montreal, so I drove 200 kilometers in this morning. | ||
I'm going to drive 200 kilometers back this afternoon. I came in Monday, and Monday was after the big weekend. So the convoy arrived, started arriving Thursday, Friday of last week, started causing the, call it havoc, for lack of a better word. But the weekend, apparently there were close to as many people. Well, I spoke to people who are out here for I've been out here for Canada Day. | ||
It's shoulder to shoulder. | ||
People who were here this weekend said there were as many people here for this protest as there were for Canada Day itself. | ||
It's amazing. | ||
I walked around on Monday when there was still a lot of people there, but I'm asking truckers, like, how long are you guys here for? | ||
And they all basically have the exact same reflexive answer, as long as it takes. | ||
It's interesting the way the cops have been breaking up the convoy, because we're on the border of Quebec and Ontario, and there's a bridge that connects Gatineau, which is in Quebec, to Ottawa, which is in Ontario. | ||
Ottawa is the capital of Canada. | ||
Small town, relatively speaking, but still pretty big. | ||
So the convoy has been broken up in various locations, so when you walk through Parliament, where they have, I'll say besieged, but where they have parked their trucks, it doesn't look like there's thousands of trucks because they've broken off the convoy, cut it off in various areas, but apparently... Now explain this, this is key. | ||
This is actually a key point because we've seen that when Trudeau comes out there, politically speaking, he says, oh, it's just a fringe minority, there's only a few people there. | ||
And then when you get the footage out, if you're not watching your very important live streams, you're only seeing, you know, maybe a couple of hundred or a couple of dozen trucks actually there at Parliament Square. | ||
But you're saying this has actually been done to psychologically change the images that we're seeing on the ground. | ||
That's one theory. | ||
The official explanation is they have to keep certain thoroughfares clear of traffic so circulation can go. | ||
They need to keep emergency lanes open for potential emergencies. | ||
But one thing is clear. | ||
You walk through Parliament Hill, you walk through the office of the Prime Minister that he has fled and absconded from his duties to go into hiding instead of addressing a highly scary crowd of truckers. | ||
Parliament Hill is Filled with people, filled with trucks, nothing's going on there. | ||
But they have broken it up in various sections, so you would think maybe if you came and saw only those trucks there, that there's not that many. | ||
But apparently from what I've been told, it stretches for kilometers once you get past the sections where they've broken it up. | ||
But above all else, I've just got to read a tweet from Justin Trudeau, because I've got to make sure I'm not getting a parking ticket here. | ||
This is a tweet from Trudeau who has fled to avoid dealing with these extremist truckers. | ||
He says, today in the House, members of Parliament unanimously condemned the anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, anti-black racism, homophobia and transphobia that we've seen on display in Ottawa over the past days. | ||
It is such delusional conduct. | ||
I mean, it's defamatory, but it's just delusional. | ||
Because I walked through that protest on Monday. | ||
Because I had seen the reports from the blue checkmarks, CBCs, the mainstream media, the liberal politicians of Canada. | ||
You know, re-tweeting that one image of a dude in a full-face ski mask with a brand new Confederate flag for whatever the reason he brought that to a protest in Canada. | ||
The one image that they've snapped of that unnamed, unidentified individual they've used to define the entire convoy. | ||
I walked through it. | ||
Other than flags that say F with a little Canadian maple flag, CK Trudeau. | ||
You may find that offensive. | ||
I did not find one bad flag. | ||
I did not find one bad actor. | ||
I did not find anything egregiously offensive or even remotely resembling what delusional Trudeau is tweeting out from his bunker. | ||
And I actually asked the cops. I mean, I didn't record the cops because I'm not there to be confrontational. I just asked them, have you had any incidents? Have you seen anything bad? | ||
And they said, no, it's been very respectful. There have been no meaningful incidents of anything. | ||
It is a paid for media subsidized by the Justin Trudeau government, bailed out by the Justin Trudeau government, beholden to the Justin Trudeau government out here trying to demonize. Go for it. | ||
Well, for our audience that isn't as familiar with the CBC and how they worked, and I did have some background on that from when I was with Rebel, as we just mentioned with Ezra, but explain to our audience what CBC has, because here in America, we don't really have an analog to that. | ||
Oh, so CBC is the Canada Broadcasting Company. | ||
It's governed by federal legislation called the Broadcasting Act, and basically it's subsidized by taxpayer dollars to the tune of $1 billion a year. | ||
This is your state broadcaster? | ||
State broadcaster. | ||
Now it's funded by any government, so it could be funded by a conservative government if a conservative government were in power. | ||
So, it's not specifically funded by the Liberals, it's funded by the Broadcasting Act, but the Liberals are in power now, and the Liberals, you know, it's funded to that extent. | ||
But the Liberal government also paid out, a few years ago, $600 million in bailout funds to the media. | ||
Which, if you don't think that buys off the media, we can agree to disagree. | ||
In the context of COVID, the government is running tens of millions of dollars of COVID ads on these broadcasting companies, mainstream media. | ||
So, whether or not you think that could be considered buying off the media through laundering tax dollars through advertising funds, We can agree to disagree if you don't think that's what it qualifies as, but I think that's what it qualifies as. | ||
So you have these, the main ones, outright funded by the federal government. | ||
And incidentally, side note, the CBC at one point sued the Conservative government, tried to take out an injunction to get them to take down some of their material that the Conservatives used in political ads. | ||
So just let that sink in, that the CBC is funded by the government and is using the funds from the government to oppose and sue an opposing political party. But that's the bottom line. They're funded by the government to the tune of $1 billion. Trudeau gave $600 million bailout. | ||
You know, and I looked at some of their their coverage of this because I'm watching your videos and I love your videos and I love that honk. | ||
Every time I hear a honk, I'm like, I want another one. | ||
It just sounds better and sweeter to me every single time, because that is the new sound of freedom. | ||
And that is, as we called it, the Free Republic of Truckistan has now been formed, because Trudeau, of course, as you said, abdicated to his lake house with his podium. | ||
And he's now delivering speeches from there, you know, in exile, like he's Napoleon at the island of Elba. | ||
But what's amazing to me, though, is that I'm seeing yours and people are coming up to you, they're singing, they're handing you battery packs from the crowd as your battery is wearing down because you're just doing this on your phone, right, with your headphones instead of any proper, you know, equipment or anything like that. | ||
But you go to CBC and they make all these claims that the crowd is harassing people and is attacking people, that they're stealing food from homeless shelters. | ||
And then you hear those same claims repeated by Trudeau. | ||
And I'm sitting there going, look, I'm on social media. | ||
I'm on Twitter, I'm on Getter, I'm everywhere. | ||
If these things were happening, they would be going viral. | ||
They would be everywhere. | ||
The one thing that I could find was a couple of guys were going over and they saw a CBC guy who was there and they were, sure, they were kind of mouthing off. | ||
But to me, it didn't look like anything worse than you would see after a win, some sporting event afterwards and you're standing out there in a crowd. | ||
I mean nobody was being attacked Assaulted any of these things it's just not happening, but they're all lying about it from the same sheet of music None of it is happening. | ||
And I'll tell you what I did see. | ||
I asked someone from TVA, which is a French radio station. | ||
They said they had the air of their tires of their vehicle, the air of their tires were aired out. | ||
And they said they got sworn at. | ||
And here's reality. | ||
Yeah, I saw the CBC. | ||
People yell at them, fake news, F off and yada yada. | ||
If that's, you know, if that's your threshold for what you would call violence, Okay, we'll agree to disagree on that as well. | ||
Boy, I would have loved to have them out at some of these Antifa events or Chazz when I was out there. | ||
I'd love to have them come with me and see some of the stuff that we phased out there. | ||
Sure, come along guys. | ||
I invite you. | ||
I welcome you. | ||
It's even worse than that though, Jack. | ||
So whether or not that's your threshold for Islamophobic... | ||
You walk through the crowd. | ||
There are native, indigenous people. | ||
There are black people. | ||
There are women. | ||
I spoke with a pregnant woman. | ||
I don't like going to these identity politics attributes to say, look how diverse the crowd is. | ||
But you have to get a reality check for these idiots who have not stepped one foot on the ground to see who's actually there before calling everyone anti-black, racist, Islamophobic, transphobic at this It's, Trudeau doesn't seem to understand that there are women truck drivers, there are minority truck drivers who are there now protesting this. | ||
But the insidious fake news of the fake news, it's not just that they will take, you know, one picture of a guy with a Confederate flag and try to make the rule out of it. | ||
It's not just that they're going to say, we got sworn at, we felt like we were threatened. | ||
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We got 40 seconds left for the segment. | ||
So I just want to get what are your coordinates? | ||
Where can people follow you? | ||
Where can people go to watch this incredible important work that you are one of the only people doing? | ||
I will be streaming as of the time we end this interview on my YouTube channel Viva Fry on Rumble. | ||
Viva Fry. | ||
You can find me on Locals with Robert Barnes. | ||
VivaBarnesLaw.Locals.com. | ||
Tune in. | ||
It's going to be amazing. | ||
God bless. | ||
Amazing work. | ||
Keep it up. | ||
I love the fighting spirit. | ||
I love the patriotism. | ||
People taking a stand for freedom in their own country. | ||
Stay tuned because next up, we are going to Beijing. | ||
The Beijing Olympics. | ||
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That voice you're hearing, for those of you listening, is not the voice of Steve Bannon, that's not the voice of Peter Navarro, that's not Steve Cortez, that's not Jack Posobiec, that's certainly not Donald J. Trump. | ||
That's George Soros, the head of the Open Society Foundation, who is someone who is known, ubiquitously, for being a mega-donor to far-left causes in the United States. | ||
He's just pledged political, he's reporting 125 million for the midterm elections this year. | ||
He's of course responsible for so many of these far left DAs that have instituted these open door policies for violent crime. | ||
And so the question is, why is Xi Jinping, excuse me, why is George Soros now speaking out against Xi Jinping? | ||
Aren't these both men of the left, right, as it were? | ||
And so my contention on this is that what you're seeing here, this is Game of Thrones You're seeing who's going to be the junior partner, who's going to be the senior partner. | ||
And I had a piece in Newsweek this week that actually was discussing all of this, and how Xi Jinping really has run the table on all of this, and that he has now become the senior partner in all of it, and that the Beijing Olympics are now the coronation ceremony for Xi Jinping, not only as the leader for life, the chairman for life in China of the CCP, the transnational criminal organization, | ||
But he has also now rocked the tables for the balance of power, so the regime in the West is now in a tributary status to Xi Jinping and to the CCP. | ||
So I wanted to bring on the opinion editor of Newsweek, Josh Hammer, who published this piece. | ||
He's been doing incredible work over there at Newsweek to discuss this, to discuss these issues, as we are only days away from the opening of these Olympics. | ||
Josh, thank you so much for joining us today on War Room. | ||
Jack, good to see you, my friend. | ||
Anytime. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
So Josh, let's dig into this a little bit because I know I was definitely taking, deliberately, a very provocative take on all of this. | ||
Because to me though, we've heard so many people for years say, well, China's getting big, China's on the rise, China's coming. | ||
And I'm saying, They're not emerging. | ||
They're not rising. | ||
They have risen. | ||
They are established. | ||
Xi Jinping has clearly established himself. | ||
He's run the tables within China with his purge campaigns. | ||
He's gotten rid of corruption. | ||
He's gotten rid of anybody who's essentially been in his way. | ||
Jiang Zemin has a few people that are coming up within the national political, the law enforcement and judicial branch. | ||
But he is getting rid of them. | ||
He's taken out all their people. | ||
And the number one show, by the way, on TV in China for the last five years have been these struggle sessions of self-incrimination, right? | ||
You don't need the giant stadiums anymore. | ||
They do it on live TV and they make these guys apologize. | ||
So tell me, what is your take? | ||
What is going on? | ||
Why are we allowing Beijing to have these Olympics again? | ||
The notion that China is not already risen is not already arguably the predominant power in this world. | ||
And I obviously say that as someone who laments the fact that we're even having this discussion. | ||
It's just a total failure to understand what is happening in the world around us, a total failure to pay attention to events that transpired over the past 5, 10, 15, 20 years. | ||
I mean, look, I might date myself a little bit here, Jack. | ||
I don't actually know exactly how old you are. | ||
So I'm 32. | ||
I'm turning 33 in a few weeks, actually. | ||
So I was in fourth grade in 1999, I guess the year was. | ||
Back when I was in fourth grade, I literally did like a, about as big a project as a fourth grader can possibly do. | ||
It was like a 20 minute oral presentation. | ||
I had like a little, you know, an old like trifold board. | ||
And I'm spending time on this because the subject of my presentation was actually China. | ||
And I did about as much research as a fourth grader can possibly do for this. | ||
And my basic conclusion to the class at that time was that China back in 1999 was a sleeping giant ready to explode onto the scene. | ||
So fast forward nine years later, the last time that China hosted the Olympics in 2008, obviously, in Beijing. | ||
We all remember this Olympics, okay? | ||
This was Michael Phelps' peak Olympics. | ||
You know, he had success in Athens 2004, London 2012, obviously even Rio 2016, but 2008 Beijing was one of his famous Olympics where he had the 8 gold medals. | ||
I mean, we all remember that, right? | ||
I mean, for me, you know, at the time it was like must-watch nightly TV. | ||
That was Xi Jinping's coming out ceremony, to the extent that one of these Olympics was a coming out ceremony. | ||
And that was 14 years ago now. | ||
OK, so like China is they have come out. | ||
They have come out, by the way, not just metaphorically, but obviously literally, which was kind of part of the point, obviously, of your fantastic op-ed for us, was the coronavirus pandemic has literally come out due to gain of function research from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. | ||
So they've come out both kind of geopolitically. | ||
Yeah, it was literally like released. | ||
So they've come out now in like multiple ways. | ||
So yeah, this notion that China is is like still like simmering and like we can like contain it now. | ||
They are out there. | ||
The question is what we geopolitically speaking do about it, obviously. | ||
I mean, it seems like we're entering or at least we theoretically have already entered. | ||
Much of elites have grasped the fact that we are now in a new era. | ||
of great power strategic competition, that the US is no longer the unilateral one and only superpower in the world, that we are competing against a new superpower. And that's just the reality. So to answer your question about what should or are we doing, well, a feckless quasi diplomatic boycott, the likes of which the Biden administration seems to be doing, obviously is woefully insufficient. | ||
I mean, I was definitely on the team of, like, full boycott. | ||
I mean, there's no reason to grant this any legitimacy, any imprimatur of legitimacy whatsoever here. | ||
But, you know, it seems like that argument failed. | ||
So, you know, it's only going to redound to Xi's interests, obviously. | ||
I mean, look, I laid this out in the piece where I said, what more could Xi Jinping possibly have done? | ||
Right? | ||
What more could he have done? | ||
Five million dead around the world because of this plague that came out of Wuhan. | ||
Whether you want to say that it was designed deliberately to do that or that it was some other gain of function experiment that later leaked accidentally, that's the only question I think that's on the board. | ||
But what we do know is that Xi Jinping directly lied. | ||
To the head of the WHO about human-to-human transmission. | ||
He directly lied to the world. | ||
He had his diplomats in Italy. | ||
Remember, Italy, when they were piling the coffins up in those churches, and their diplomats were saying, you need to continue flights with China. | ||
So he shut down domestic transport, but continued international travel around the world while all this is going on. | ||
He knew what was happening. | ||
And we're now getting reports out, and Josh Rogin's got his book, and you've got other books. | ||
Sherry Markson on this, Miranda Devine, some fantastic work where we're finding out not only did this thing come out earlier than any of them had admitted, it may have been, you know, we're talking about the Olympic Games that are coming up now, well, they had the World Military Games, August of 2019, this thing may have been circulating as early as that, they may have held those and where, wait for it, Wuhan is where they were held. | ||
Now, of course, Miranda Devine is out there with this book on Hunter Biden and my contention is that you've got to put all of this together. So it's not just that Hunter Biden has these deals in China and, you know, he's far from the only American politician or political family that has any deals in China like this. Barbara Boxer, who was the former senator of California, is now a registered agent. | ||
She herself is a registered agent of a CCP surveillance operation. | ||
The exact CCTV cameras that are used in Xinjiang, the areas where they're locking up all the Uyghurs in concentration camps. | ||
Why are they doing that? | ||
Well, they want to build a railroad across the Hindu Kush. | ||
They want to be able to get down to build, to get their oil up from Iran through Pakistan. | ||
This is the One Belt One Road, and the Uyghurs are in the way, so you got to get them out of the way. | ||
I saw this with my own eyes when I was working in Shanghai for years. | ||
I was in the American Chamber of Commerce there, and then I was later working for an international consulting firm. | ||
And you would see this, delegations of business leaders, political leaders, they would come to Shanghai. | ||
And we were sold this canard, right? | ||
That if we open up to China, if we allow China to open up to us, we build this relationship with them, then it's gonna make them more liberal, it's gonna make them more open, it's gonna make them more democratic, it's gonna give them more freedom, their people will be yearning for it, they'll be striving for it, and they will demand democracy. | ||
Well, we saw Tiananmen Square, that was the end of that. | ||
Then you move on later, what's actually been what happened? | ||
It's been a reverse. | ||
It's been a one-way street of authoritarianism that's come from Beijing, from the CCP, into the United States. | ||
That's where all this is coming from. | ||
It's coming from an elite merger at the highest levels, whether they realize it or not. | ||
I don't really know how much I can possibly top that, let alone add to it or anything. | ||
But like, look, in retrospect, kind of, you know, Nixon visiting Chairman Mao in the early 1970s, right, to kind of, quote unquote, open up China. | ||
It's basically, it was the same theory that you just outlined, Jack. | ||
It was this notion that kind of You know, economic liberalization would lead to political liberalization. | ||
You know, we've heard this line over and over and over again. | ||
In retrospect, one of the dumbest decisions, honestly, in modern American history. | ||
I do not think that is overstating the case at all. | ||
In fact, it's probably understating the case. | ||
To President Trump's great credit, obviously, you know, he was the first president to, you know, in 45 to 50 years to meaningfully try to kind of push the pendulum back towards sanity, towards a saner, more sober view of our both economic and geopolitical relations with the China. | ||
Here's the issue too, right, and I talk about this as well, is that at this point we need to, and conservatives need to, and I've said this for a while now, it's like I want to push a software upgrade onto conservatives. Like, you know, when your Apple, you know, when your iPhone says, hey, you got to update your software because there's a new upgrade that's being pushed, I want to push that to conservatives in vis-a-vis our relationship with China, but also realizing that | ||
You're going to need to take federal action to achieve economic leverage against what? | ||
Against the companies and against the politicians that have built this elite merger with a transnational criminal organization. | ||
So for conservatives, this obviously flies into the face of what has built a long-held plank of the conservative Republican, whatever you want to call it, platform for years now and that free trade. | ||
We need free trade agreements with everybody, the free flow of capital across borders. | ||
This is where you also get a lot of libertarians will support open borders and say we need the free flow of capital, the free flow of people. | ||
And yet you're starting to see this now kind of turn back on itself and say, well, wait a minute. | ||
If you're working with a country that allows slave wages to be subsidized because of the slave labor that's allowed by Xi Jinping, the people working in China, then No, 100% here. | ||
that isn't really free labor and it actually hollows out our country. | ||
So Josh, what does it mean for this sort of new right movement, the populist movement, the worker movement that we've just been talking about, the truckers all morning when it comes to this, because doesn't this fly in the face of one of the highest held beliefs of conservatism? | ||
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No, 100% here. | ||
I mean, the notion that the neoliberal order, that free trade is kind of an unvarnished good in and of itself, that kind of the consumption ends will always justify whatever means whatsoever, even if those means obviously are Uyghur slave labor, creating like Nike sneakers or whatever in Xinjiang and Western China here. | ||
This argument has totally blown up in our face and not only has it blown up in our face, You know, for like coronavirus-related reasons, you know, people who've spent meaningful time kind of in the American heartland, kind of driving around Ohio, Indiana, Wisconsin, Illinois, all those things, they have seen this in person, okay? | ||
I mean, I've spent numerous nights in places like Dane, Ohio, Toledo, Ohio. | ||
You can literally go there. | ||
You can see with your own eyes what these cities, what kind of the former kind of bastions of America's kind of industrial manufacturing might How far they have declined. | ||
I mean, a lot of this is like the dilapidated infrastructure, kind of the buildings that have been torn asunder here. | ||
We have not just kind of shipped jobs overseas. | ||
We have shipped kind of a very kind of strongly symbolic notion of American vigor and vitality overseas. | ||
I mean, our manufacturing and industrial base back upon a time was kind of the backbone of American society here. | ||
You know, the notion of kind of free trade to be pursued as a good unto itself, and you know, it's kind of like the quintessential form of this, right? | ||
There's this famous line from the George H.W. | ||
Bush, the Bush 41 White House, I can't remember quite who said it, where he basically says, oh, you know, computer chips, potato chips, what's the difference, right? | ||
Like, these are all goods, they're interchangeable. | ||
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Oh my God! | |
Like, all we're trying to do is get the lowest possible price. | ||
That's how they look at us! | ||
That's how they look at all this, Josh. | ||
We are at 45 seconds left for the segment. | ||
Thank you so much for coming on with us today. | ||
Tell me, obviously, you are the opinion editor of Newswork. | ||
Thank you so much. | ||
I love, by the way, the fact that you are sharing now two sides on these issues. | ||
You'll have, you know, debates of someone on the left, someone on the right. | ||
Tell me, where can people go to follow more of what you're doing with the new opinion page at Newsweek? | ||
Sure, so Newsweek.com slash opinion is our opinion page. | ||
You can find me personally at Twitter.com, Josh underscore Hammer. | ||
Got a new podcast up as well, The Josh Hammer Show. | ||
Jeff, we'll definitely have you on sometime soon, but appreciate the time as always, my friend. | ||
Can't wait. | ||
We'll do it. | ||
Long form. | ||
Stay tuned. | ||
Charlie Kirk coming up next in the War Room as War Room Pandemic continues. | ||
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You are now back in the War Room. | ||
Jack Posobiec filling in for the Generalissimo while he attends to some personal affairs today. | ||
Our prayers, of course, are all with him. | ||
Now, I wanted to bring in, though... | ||
A good friend of mine, someone I've worked with for a while, and someone I think you all know because there are two podcasts that I listen to other than my own, of course, every day. | ||
Number one is War Room Pandemic that I've been listening to every single day since I think I was actually the first guest on War Room Pandemic all the way back two years ago, January 25th. | ||
I was sitting right over there, not on this side, but just on the other side of the table here. | ||
But the other one is the Charlie Kirk Show and some of the work that Charlie has been doing there is absolutely fantastic. | ||
And so we've got Charlie on today and he did a piece the other day. | ||
I think it was just yesterday that it dropped. | ||
Where he was talking about what is the plan for the next Congress? | ||
Because we're constantly hearing about the failures of Joe Biden, and we can talk all day about them. | ||
And I enjoy talking about them because they are numerous and they are sundry. | ||
But the question is, you can't just be the party of we're not him. | ||
You have to actually stand for something, not just stand against thing. | ||
And Charlie, you had a fantastic piece the other day. | ||
So ladies and gentlemen, Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA, the host of the Charlie Kirk Show. | ||
Charlie, welcome back on The War Room. | ||
Thank you, Jack. | ||
Congratulations. | ||
You look great and you're right where you belong. | ||
So congratulations. | ||
I have this concern that if Republicans win, because it looks like they will, that we're not going to know what to do with the power and that it will be just kind of this one or two session kind of congressional Republican resurgence and then that's it. | ||
You know, I think that we need to be very clear with our voters, first and foremost, That we're not going to be able to pass major pieces of legislation. | ||
Now, this might be the opposite of what Republican consultants would tell you to do. | ||
They'd say, oh, no, no, no, just promise the world, get elected and figure it out. | ||
I think I think our base is too cynical for that in a good way. | ||
I think they've been lied to so much by the Boehner types and the Ryan types that they don't want to they don't want to hear something that just sounds good and it makes them feel good in a moment. | ||
At the same time, though, there's a lot that can be done if Republicans take back Congress. | ||
The first and foremost is an aggressive Daily oversight posture. | ||
And, you know, Jack, I like the expression by Thomas Jefferson that liberty is never safe when the legislature or Congress is in session. | ||
That used to be true. | ||
I think that we need to tell our Republicans they got to take almost no time off. | ||
There are too many things to investigate. | ||
The Afghanistan debacle, the border, the origin of the virus, big tech, DOJ, Merrick Garland, targeting of students, and parents calling them domestic terrorists, we need to start to issue Warren Commission style reports, have Church and Pike equivalent type committees to look into every single one of these verticals. | ||
And so basically the mandate for Republicans coming into the House and the Senate needs to be information. | ||
They need to give the American people the information they deserve of the treachery, the depth of the betrayal to the voters and to the citizens of this country. | ||
And then eventually, I think with that, Jack, over the next couple of years, we can get other chambers of power that can make more substantial change. | ||
But what I don't want to see happen is Republicans take office and then all of a sudden we get, well, we don't control every chamber, so we can't do anything. | ||
I think that would fracture the party almost permanently. | ||
Instead, oversight posture, and then passing some really good bills that will be defeated by Democrats as well, and then hopefully building what should be a decade of strong conservative Republican victories. | ||
No, but Charlie, you're talking about commissions and committees and investigations, but I remember the Benghazi Commission, and I remember Hillary Clinton even came in and sat down, and it never really seemed to go anywhere. | ||
So what can Republicans do to make sure that this isn't another exercise in futility like that was? | ||
You know, so Jack, I've heard this and I have to independently fact check it. | ||
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And Jack, you could tell me, I was told that Paul Ryan never issued a single subpoena as speaker. | ||
Um, I've heard that from a couple of times. | ||
I find that really hard to believe, but I definitely know they did not, you know, Republicans definitely did not run the committee like the Democrats are running the January six committee. | ||
And look, I mean, I think it's totally outrageous what they're doing, and it's a abuse of power. | ||
But at the same time, if Republicans get back power, there's no reason why they should not subpoena Merrick Garland's son-in-law, who is running the CRT digital education implementation company that he, Merrick Garland, is benefiting from. | ||
Because of what he's doing with his war on parents. | ||
And so look, it's a matter of posture, right? | ||
And here's an important thing. | ||
I think it's going to be tempting to want to go after Joe Biden personally. | ||
I think that's a mistake and a waste of resources. | ||
I think they're going to get rid of Joe Biden soon. | ||
You see that with what's happening with the New York Times suing for Hunter Biden's records to the State Department. | ||
You see that through a lot of different things. | ||
It doesn't look like Joe Biden is the person they want to ride into, you know, victory for the next two, four, six or eight years. | ||
It doesn't seem that way. | ||
Instead, you want to go after the regime as a whole. | ||
You want to try to go after Merrick Garland. | ||
You want to go after the education. | ||
By going after, I mean you want to investigate. | ||
You want to get facts. | ||
You want to get the truth out. | ||
You know, you want to try to find out what happened with Mark Milley and Lloyd Austin. | ||
Instead of going after Joe Biden, who is kind of going to be easily discarded, let's try to investigate the machine as a whole. | ||
Let's try to get as many answers as we possibly can. | ||
But Jack, I remember Benghazi, it was a show trial. | ||
Not to say that there wasn't something worth investigating, but the way the Republicans did it was So weak. | ||
Vanilla. | ||
And honestly disappoints so many people because four Americans died. | ||
It happened on the anniversary of 9-11. | ||
We could go through it again and it seemed as if the bad guys got away with it. | ||
Charlie, we've got a minute left. | ||
Can we hold you over the break? | ||
Because I want to dig in a little bit more into some of these things you're talking about. | ||
I think this is very important. | ||
And then also, you know, but at the same time, talk about, you know, we are going to be, if the conservative party is now taking the lead, if the Republicans take the lead, we are going to be able to hold some legislation with Biden. | ||
So I want to talk about that. | ||
Are you good to hold over? | ||
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Alright, we'll do that because we're going to cut out here in 30 seconds. | ||
We're going to come back. | ||
Hour 2 of the War Room continues because we are going to talk about this. | ||
Republicans, you cannot just stand against things. | ||
You have to stand for something. | ||
We're standing for families. | ||
We're standing for people. | ||
We're standing for the workers. | ||
We're standing for the truckers. | ||
We're standing for the farmers. | ||
The backbone of this economy. | ||
This is not your grandpappy's grand old party. | ||
This is the new right. | ||
This is the new Republicans. |