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Episode 1,600 – Ukraine; Pennsylvania Decertification; Border InvasionEpisode 1,600 – Ukraine; Pennsylvania Decertification; Border Invasion
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in terms of what we've seen in the past of Russian exercises, et cetera.
This is larger in scale and scope and the massing of forces than anything we have seen in recent memory, and I think you'd have to go back quite a while into the Cold War days to see something of this magnitude.
They do annual exercises, and we watch those closely, but this is different.
So we'll continue to monitor it very, very closely, but yes, it's a different.
Ukraine has the right to be independent, and they have been an independent country since 1991.
We're done.
Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 with the United States and Great Britain that guaranteed the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine.
It's the policy of the United States government to continue to support an independent Ukraine and their goals.
And we are continuing our effort to enhance their ability to protect themselves.
We strongly encourage Russia to stand down and to pursue a resolution through diplomacy.
Armed force should always be the last resort.
Success here is through dialogue.
The Russian Federation has amassed upwards, at this time, of over 100,000 ground forces, air forces, naval forces, special forces, cyber, electronic warfare, command and control, logistics, engineers, and other capabilities along the Ukraine border.
Ukraine is the second largest country in Europe, with a population of 44 million.
It's divided in the middle by the River Dernipro.
Prominent terrain includes flat, open plains.
And there are abundance of rivers and lakes, and there's a high water table.
And when that high water table freezes, it makes it for optimal conditions for cross-country tract and wheeled vehicle maneuver.
The city of Kiev has a population of nearly 3 million people.
Other major population centers include Kharkiv or Kharkov, Donetsk, Odessa, Dnipro and Lviv in the West.
There are many people and highly dense population centers throughout Ukraine.
And if war were to break out on a scale and scope that is possible, the civilian population will suffer immensely.
As we've made clear, in addition to the significant economic and diplomatic costs that Russia will incur, a move on Ukraine will accomplish the very thing Russia says it does not want.
A NATO alliance strengthened and resolved on its western flank.
The United States will contribute to NATO's response forces, and we will coordinate with our NATO allies.
We will make sure that they have the capabilities that they need to defend themselves.
Article 5 is clear on this point.
An attack against one NATO member is an attack against us all.
And as President Biden has said, the United States holds this as a sacred... Ukraine has the right to be independent and they have been an independent country since 1991.
Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 with the United States and Great Britain that guaranteed the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine.
It's the policy of the United States government to continue to support an independent Ukraine and their goals.
And we are continuing our effort to enhance their ability to protect themselves.
Courtney, is this something that could be beyond Ukraine?
I know you wanted to ask a question and you were not called on for this news conference, but is this just about Ukraine?
Hearing Peter Baker talk about how officials speak off camera and not publicly suggests... Well, you tell me what you think.
Yeah, first off, I completely agree with what Peter just said.
There was all this talk after President Biden at the press conference that was talking about maybe a small incursion or a minor incursion.
That is not the overall thinking that I find among the U.S.
government officials about where they think this is likely headed.
Or potentially headed at this point.
I mean, that actually, I think that's a really interesting point.
It's something that I had hoped to ask about today.
We keep hearing about the United States will uphold its Article 5 commitment to NATO.
That is the collective defense of all NATO allies, right?
So if one NATO ally is attacked, everyone is attacked.
You have the right, not actually the necessity, but the right to respond.
But what we are hearing here is that Ukraine is the one that is under threat.
Ukraine, coercion against Ukraine, all these forces that are potentially going to invade Ukraine.
Again, not a NATO ally.
So why is it necessary to send potentially 8,500 plus United States troops, plus the additional allied troops that will be part of this NATO response force, which will be tens of thousands more?
Why is it necessary to send them forward if, in fact, none of these NATO allies are under threat?
Which, at this point, it doesn't seem that they are.
And the reality is, yes, it's to show a united front.
It's for reassurance.
But that's a question that we really haven't had answered here.
If they're not under threat, why send forces forward?
Is there the potential that sending these forces in could actually have the opposite effect and just prove to Putin that he may have some sort of a reason to actually invade Ukraine?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, it's Friday evening.
It's Friday 28th of January year of our Lord 2022 year in the war room.
We're live over 130 million downloads the podcast course millions everywhere live and in Mandarin.
So I want to make sure the Chinese hear this and the administration hears this and CNN media matters write this down.
I want every all you guys save your documents because this is going to be the second article of impeachment.
The first article of impeachment is how you exacerbated and drove an evasion or southern border.
You are going out of your way.
This illegitimate regime, to try to get some legitimacy, is going out of their way to cook up a war in Ukraine.
And right there, the NBC reporter says it.
Ukraine is not a NATO ally.
Now we're going back to 1994, to the Budapest Memo, that Ukraine has a right to be independent.
Well, Ukraine has a right to be independent if Ukraine can defend its independence.
It's not a NATO ally.
It is not an ally.
We have no treaty with Ukraine.
We have a treaty with NATO.
And before the EU and the NATO guys start talking about expansion, here's what we need expansion of.
We need expansion of them to pay the 2% that they're required to and have obligated themselves to and have never done, and it should be cumulative, the 2% of their GDP to pay for the common defense of the alliance.
Okay, the United States pays for all this and later he's talking about we got 80, 108 combat brigades and we got this, we got aircraft, we got four aircraft carriers.
It's all the United States!
Show me the active combat divisions that NATO could put on the field.
I mean combat divisions with equipment that are ready and trained up.
Not that it's going into climate change or health care or gender, you know, education.
No.
Combat.
We hold this as a sacred obligation.
This is all madness.
This is madness.
This is madness.
And we're going to demand the documents after we take power next year.
This is an article of impeachment.
You are stirring up a conflict.
Zelensky gives a press conference today and says they've got to stop it.
They're making it hysterical.
They're killing our economy.
They're causing capital to flee out of our nation, the United States, Joe Biden.
They're totally revving this up so they can look like big shots.
They can look like war leaders.
The sacred obligation, sacred obligation.
Hey, Ukraine ought to have a sacred obligation to itself to keep itself independent.
OK, it's not a NATO ally and it's not going to be a NATO ally.
It's just not going to be a NATO right now.
The deadbeats in NATO, and that's why we have deadbeats.
Germany's the top deadbeat, lead deadbeat.
When was the last time Germany, they came in our face and the White House told us they weren't going to pay the 2%.
They said, we have a constitutional amendment that says we have a balanced budget.
I said, hey dude, we wrote your constitution after we killed all the Nazis.
We're the guys that wrote your damn constitution and put a balanced budget.
We'd like to have a balanced budget too and not spend a trillion dollars a year on our defense is what we spend.
Don't believe the gimmicks to the 780 billion, it's a trillion.
Okay?
And by the way, we have a structural deficit on your kid's shoulders of about a trillion to a trillion and a half dollars because we're paying for all this crap.
All these sanctimonious, Admiral Stavridis and this and that.
Oh, the 1994 Budapest Memo.
Who?
Where?
What?
What?
The sacred independence of NATO, of Ukraine.
The Ukraine people are just saying, leave us alone.
You're making people nervous.
Capital's fleeing the country.
He said the biggest problem he's got internal because of what you guys are stirring up.
What they ought to do is get with the Germans and the French, get to Paris where they ought to talk this out.
And let Putin know, you're not going to put NATO, okay, Ukraine is not going to NATO.
It'll be like Mexico signing a treaty with China.
Right now, we've got the Chinese Communist Party all over South America.
We've got the Chinese Communist Party in the South China Sea building stationary aircraft carriers called Islands, and we've got them about to take over Taiwan.
That is a national security threat to the United States of America, and it's paramount.
Of course, what are we doing there?
We're going over to Kowtow, Kowtow for a couple weeks, the Olympic Games.
We're going to Kowtow.
This is an obscenity.
This is the second article of impeachment.
They impeached Trump over a phone call with Zelensky?
Are you kidding me?
What these guys have done?
Let's get the transcript from the phone call they had today.
Or yesterday when he said, they're going to sack Kiev!
Poor Zelensky is sitting there going, this guy's a madman.
This is going to kill every business in Ukraine.
It's sick.
It is sick.
NATO allies, before you start talking big about who you're going to add and what you're going to do and all these countries you're going to add, pay your bills.
Pay the 2% so that we know that you're a real alliance partner.
It's not a paper.
That's all it is now.
You know what NATO is?
It's the United States military, the United States taxpayers.
It's the deplorables.
And it's a joke.
Even to the thing that we have to force them to pay up, it's a joke.
But I digress.
We're going to get back to NATO hopefully before the end of the show.
I got to go now.
We've got so much explosive news coming out of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
I want to go to the great lawyer Wally Zimelong, who is the lead counsel on this blockbuster decision.
Wally, tell us what happened today at the Commonwealth Court.
They're basically, say, unconstitutional mail-in ballots.
I think they're 2.6 million of the 6.9.
Almost 40% of the votes were these mail-in ballots, ladies and gentlemen.
There's no way this thing could be certified.
Wally, walk us through how you got this amazing decision today.
unidentified
Yeah, thanks for having me on, Steve.
It's an absolutely monumental decision for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
It's a monumental decision for the Pennsylvania Constitution, the rule of law and election integrity.
So there was a similar challenge to the constitutionality of Act 77.
Act 77 was the legislation that brought no excuse mail-in voting to Pennsylvania in 2019.
And the challenge, unfortunately, asked for a extraordinary relief, which was to throw out all mail ballots that were going to be counted or had been counted in the 2020 election.
The case made its way up to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, and the Pennsylvania Supreme Court rejected the challenge, but it rejected the challenge on what could be considered a technicality.
It just said that the plaintiffs in the case waited too long, but it never really addressed the merits, which were very good merits, which was whether or not no excuse mailed in voting was constitutional.
And in the summer of 2020, I brought a case on behalf of a election official that challenged the constitutionality of Act 77 and asked the court to get to the merits of it because we believe that was left unresolved and we followed it well in advance of any election and we made very clear the relief that we were seeking was to have it declared unconstitutional.
We weren't looking to the past.
We weren't looking to undo the results of any other election.
We were just trying to make sure that elections going forward in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania were done according to the Pennsylvania Constitution.
So that matter was briefed and argued.
The Pennsylvania Democratic Party got involved.
The Democratic National Committee not got involved.
They parachuted all kind of fancy lawyers into the Commonwealth.
We argued the case twice before the Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania, which is the intermediate appellate court in Pennsylvania, one rung below the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.
And finally, today we got an opinion in our favor from the court that agreed whole cloth with what we had presented to the court.
All our arguments were accepted.
And it reiterated that the law of Pennsylvania in the Constitution is that you cannot have no excuse mail-in voting.
This has been the law for at least 150 years, and it was reiterated by the court today.
So we're very, very pleased with the result.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Wally, just please hang on.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to come back with the lead counsel on this monumental blockbuster.
Even CNN is covering it.
One of the top stories on CNN on their homepage.
And from Shapiro, the Attorney General, to the Governor, all of Pennsylvania, the Democrats, Mark Elias, little Jamie Raskin, Bennie Thompson, in their grill.
Unconstitutional.
2.6 million ballots in the 2020 election.
Short commercial break.
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Okay, let's go back to Wally Zimelong, the lead counsel.
You know, Wally, it's a little off-putting.
There's not a lot of great attorneys I know named Wally, but that's a topic for a different day.
You sound like a surfer.
You sound like a surfer.
So, Wally, how did you come up with this?
How did you come up and get engaged and involved in this?
This is a monumental victory for MAGA and for the 3 November movement.
How did you get engaged in this?
unidentified
Well, following the 2020 election, the theory that was actually brought to my attention that I was asked to get involved with the case.
And unfortunately, I just didn't have the bandwidth to handle it at the time.
I was handling a number of different post 2020 election challenges.
And then in in the March or April the following year, I was giving a what's called a continuing legal education course for a bunch of Republican lawyers.
And I was sharing my theories and about the the unresolved issue of mail voting in Pennsylvania.
And I sort of just rhetorically said it would be something if if this case was brought to the Commonwealth Court and allowed to matriculate through the Pennsylvania court system.
And from there was a few weeks later, someone called me up and they said, well, how about would you be interested in pursuing that challenge on my behalf?
And I said, OK, that would be interesting.
And from there, the case came together and finally got to the point where in the summer of 2021, we filed the case.
And again, we wanted to file the case well in advance of the 2020.
We actually had a 2020 local and municipal election in Pennsylvania.
We filed it in advance of that.
We were hoping to get a ruling in sufficient enough advance of that election so that mail ballots couldn't be used there.
And the Commonwealth Court said, no, we're going to We're going to let this election go forward with the mail ballots because of how close we are to the election.
But the ruling is going to apply to any elections going forward.
And that's what the court ruled.
And I know the Commonwealth has immediately appealed this.
It's up with the Pennsylvania Supreme Court now.
It does have the effect of an automatic stay of it.
But still, we have finally a court, an entire court in Pennsylvania.
So it's not just like There's some state court judge out there or one judge in some county.
We have the entire Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania agreeing with the decision, upholding the rule of law, upholding the Pennsylvania Constitution, and not getting cowed to public opinion and public pressure.
It was really, really refreshing to see, especially after what we went through the last year, year and a half.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I'm getting to the bores in this a second, but this is a 50 page opinion or 50 page document.
And it's tightly written about.
So Commonwealth Court for our for our national audience.
This is the appeals court in the state in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
So this is big league.
This is like he says, it's not some county judge.
This is the real deal.
What do you anticipate?
How quickly is this going to get resolved?
unidentified
Because this is monumental.
I would anticipate the Pennsylvania Supreme Court's going to give us a briefing schedule.
Our briefs will be submitted over the next couple months.
I don't think we're going to get briefs that are going to be due next week or the following week.
I do think the Pennsylvania Supreme Court clearly is going to want to resolve this before our May 2022 primary, especially how important it's going to be.
It's going to be important for both Republicans and Democrats.
Democrats, there's a Gubernatorial election 2022 in Pennsylvania.
The Democrats have a primary against two very well-funded candidates.
And there's a bunch of really, really well-qualified Republican candidates.
And then we have an open Senate seat that we absolutely, critically must keep in Pennsylvania.
And there's a bunch of qualified and exceptional candidates on the Republican side there.
And there's a bunch of challengers, very progressive challengers in the Democratic primary.
And male ballots are going to determine the results of all of those races.
And ultimately, because, you know, you're talking about a Senate race could could determine the future of the country and the future of the United States Senate.
And, you know, several important things, especially with two years remaining on Joe Biden's term, hang in the balance here.
You know, the balance of the Senate could control how this country goes, what kind of judges get confirmed, whether or not there's another Supreme Court vacancy.
I don't think I I need to list on and on and on for your viewers how important taking back the House and taking back the Senate is, and also just making sure we hold these gubernatorial seats as well.
We saw in the pandemic how much power these governors have.
In some ways they have more power over us than our elected officials in Washington.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Wally, how do people follow you on social media?
Do you have a website?
How do people find out more about you because you're about to become a national figure instantaneously?
unidentified
Yeah, my Twitter handle is easy to follow.
It's at Wally, W-A-L-L-Y-Z-I-M-O-L-O-N-G.
And my website is just Zimalonglaw.com, or the real easy way to find me is just republican.law.
Republican.law will also get you to my website.
So anyone needs anything, wants to reach out or interact, we welcome it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Wally Surf's up.
Thank you so much.
Honored to have you on.
We're finally getting some good lawyers now.
President Trump, we got one for you.
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate it.
Boris, where has this guy been?
Boris Epstein, join me.
This is amazing.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼
This guy's my new best friend.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It's amazing.
Incredible.
I want everybody, let's get the opinion up.
I need everybody in the audience over the weekend.
You need to take time and read the opinion.
It goes back to the founding of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, virtually, after almost the founding of the Republic in the 19th century.
It goes through all of it about the constitutionality of what happened.
2.6 million ballots of the 6.9 cast in 2020 were these no-request mail-in ballots.
Yes, sir?
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼
Here's what's really important, and it's the timeline.
You know, us lawyers like to talk about the legalese, we love to talk about the law, we love to talk about Latin terms, ab initio, de novo, etc.
But the timeline here is vital.
This Act 77, that put an unchecked, they call it no excuse, it's unchecked mail-in balloting.
This isn't a situation where, oh, this has been around for 10, 15, 20 years, it's impacted, you know, 6, 7, 8 elections.
assault on election integrity in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. This isn't a situation where oh there's been around for 10, 15, 20 years it's impacted you know six, seven, eight elections. This impacted one election, the 2020 election.
The election that I fully believe, we fully believe, the MAGA movement under the leadership of President Trump, the war on posse, we all know was stolen and was specifically stolen in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
And the biggest question- Hang on one second.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, but hang on one second, hang on one second.
I want to put up Jake Corman's letter.
I want to put up Jay Corman's letter to McConnell and to McCarthy.
The letter, and I want Ari Melber to suck on this, and little Jamie Raskin and Benny Thompson, I want you to suck on this letter and compare it, compare it to what happened today in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Jay Corman, on the 4th of January, read that letter, on the 4th of January, sent these guys a letter and said, hey, We want, we need you to send these back because we're very concerned about how these electors, how these Biden electors were sent.
We think there were illegalities.
We think there were irregularities.
And he specifically cites, wait for it, Act 77 in the mail-in, in the no-request mail-in ballots.
This was on January 4th.
This is what Jay Corman in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania requested to come back and says we'll do it quickly, but we need to sort this out.
If that had happened, by the way, do we have this Mike Pence clip?
How long is the Pence clip?
Can we pull that up?
Let me have the Mike Pence clip right now.
Boris, I want your reaction.
Let's play Mike Pence clip right now from Jesse waters last night Okay, terrific Thank you, Denver.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼
Good shot, Mr. Denver.
Shabbat shalom.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Good shot.
Anyway, we got Mike Pence.
We'll get to him in a second.
I want to go back to this.
unidentified
It's probably past the hour in the engine room.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Talk to me about the Jay Corman letter and how it ties directly to this ruling today in the appeals court.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼
Of course, State Senate President Jay Corman sent a letter on the 4th, two days before the counting of the electoral votes.
You know, the Democrats, MSNBC, oh, Jan 6th, Jan 6th.
The reason January 6th has significance It's not because of the events at the Capitol.
It has significance because that's when the big steal was codified into law when they counted the false electoral votes.
That's what Gen 6 was.
That's when that happened inside the Capitol.
So, and listen, as I've tweeted, we've said, always call within the lines.
We don't want any violence.
No violence.
Violence is bad.
We've said all that.
We stick with it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We don't need it.
We don't need it.
We got the law on our side.
We got the law on our side.
We got the Electoral Account Act.
And we got the law today.
The only way they're going to try to change this is a Democrat-controlled Supreme Court in Pennsylvania understands they're up against the wall.
Governor Wolf and Shapiro particularly are running around with their hair on fire right now.
We got this.
Just read it.
It's illegal, unconstitutional.
Yeah, Boris, go ahead.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼
That letter, Steve, laid out at that time what today's ruling by the Commonwealth Court put on the record.
That the Act, this Act, the 77 Act, Act No.
77, is unconstitutional.
It has put forth provisions which are against the Commonwealth Constitution, and it therefore invalidated all those votes.
unidentified
And by the way, they couldn't even follow the damn act!
Kathy Bacobar, the Secretary of State, she even violated that.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼
They gave them a freebie with that act, and they even went against that in contravention of Article 2 of the Constitution.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Boris, hang on.
We got Boris, we got Peter who wrote the Navarro Report, he's gonna get into all this.
Pennsylvania, a bomb went off today.
Let's start the decertification process now.
unidentified
Be back in a moment.
January 6th was difficult.
It was a tragic day in the life of the nation.
Uh, I know I did my duty under the constitution of the United States, but the interesting thing about this ruling is that in the.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay.
Thank you, Denver.
We're going to play nine of them down.
No, we just want one.
That was Mike Pence.
And we cut that off too quick.
Okay.
Pence, you didn't do your duty.
Um, and I don't want to hear all, it's a tragic day.
No, it was a day to do your duty.
If you had done exactly what Jay Corman in the president pro tem of the Senate of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania had requested in his letter that an appeals court in a three to two decision on a tightly written opinion that I want everybody in this audience to read.
I want to get this up everywhere so people can read it this weekend.
None of this would have happened and we wouldn't have had this tragedy.
The tragedy is what happened to our country.
Not that day, Mike Pence.
Courage is contagious and so is cowardice.
And yes, sir, you are a coward.
And that's why we're in this mess.
Boris Epstein.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼
Go back to the biggest issue here.
The biggest issue is, just as you said, Steve, goes back to the 2020 election.
Okay?
And you may just be hearing about this from a more senior source than me in the next few minutes.
Let's put it that way, okay?
And it's very simply put.
The question is this.
If these mail-in ballots, the over 2 million mail-in ballots, 2.6 I believe, correct Steve?
unidentified
2.6.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼
If 2.6 mail-in ballots are unconstitutional today, How could they have been constitutional in 2020?
If unchecked mail-in balloting is unconstitutional today, how does this do anything but prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the 2020 election in Pennsylvania was stolen?
The same way, Steve, 10 more seconds, the same way that in Wisconsin, in Wisconsin, by them ruling that the drop boxes are illegal, that means the Wisconsin election was stolen.
unidentified
And by the way, for those counting, I don't know if anybody is.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼
It's 20 in Pennsylvania.
It's 10 in Wisconsin.
Okay?
And with Georgia and Arizona, we're home.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
You don't need Georgia and Arizona.
You just need Georgia and Arizona.
And people in Georgia ought to be ashamed of themselves right now.
Ought to be ashamed of themselves.
And people in Arizona ought to get off their ass.
Okay?
I want to go back.
I want to bring Navar into this conversation.
By the way, Boris, just give me the technical term.
The term that the opinion, that carried this 3 to 2 opinion, said that this law was unconstitutional from its beginning.
From its beginning!
This is not about going from its beginning.
What's the Latin term?
After 12 years of Latin, I gotta depend upon Boris to give me the Latin.
What's the term?
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼
I don't know why you find it specifically interesting that Boris Epstein has to give you the Latin.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Don't give me the Hebrew interpretation.
Give me the Latin.
All the Benedictine monks and nuns have nothing to do with me.
Give me the Latin.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼
I can give you the Hebrew and the Yiddish, but I'll give you the Latin.
Not to make you a putz, okay?
So it's ab initio.
Ab initio is the term.
And that means that this was unconstitutional from the beginning.
There's actually two terms legally that mean from the beginning.
It's ab initio.
De novo means start from the beginning.
But here, ab initio means from the beginning, from the very start.
Another way I like to put it is fruit of the poisonous tree.
The tree is poisonous.
All the fruit's poisonous.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Ari Melber had two guys on the other day.
He had Peter Navarro about the facts and Boris Epstein about the law, and he got lit up by both.
I want to bring in now Peter Navarro.
Peter Navarro, please tell me, sir, what volume and what table in the Navarro report that was laid out before Christmas of 2020, of 2020, laid out this specific, you highlighted this specific problem.
Where is it, sir?
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
Yes, Ari Melber, we have the receipts.
So, I'm going to show you two charts.
The first one is from Volume 2, Figure 4, Page 7.
If you look at the top row there, checkmarked by Pennsylvania, where it says Relax Mail-In and Absentee Ballot Rules.
Steve, remember that the whole conceit of the Democrats' strategy was the grand stuff-the-ballot-box strategy.
And you basically do everything you can to increase the amount of absentee mail-in ballots, which is what Pennsylvania did, at the same time you take the election cops off the beat.
This second chart is really the one that nails Ari Melber.
If you look at the last column there, Pennsylvania, what is it?
Act 77, right here in the Navarro Report.
No excuse absentee voting right here in the Navarro Report saying that's how they stole the damn thing.
So, look, I mean, look, we know they did it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It's just a question of this lag time now, Steve, where the courts and the legislatures are trying to get to... Is MSNBC, is John Malone going to let CNN say there's no facts here?
We told you, as soon as we can get places to adjudicate this, you're going to see whether it's a court or whether it's a state legislature.
Why don't you get a place to adjudicate it?
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
I got like 20 more things in the Navarro Report that can be similarly adjudicated and show that this thing was unequivocally stolen.
And by the way, friggin' Mike Pence.
Fox and Jesse Watters.
Jesse Watters' new show.
What is he doing?
He's rehabbing Mike Pence.
Maybe they don't like Trump.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I don't know.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
Something's going on over at Fox and Trump.
It's like, but having Pence on and not pushing back on that?
Hey Mike, hey Mike, were you doing your duty or were you sticking a knife in Donald John Trump?
I don't want to see that guy out on Fox saying in these like serious tones, eww, ouch.
Mike Pence does not know the law, Steve.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Tragic day.
Jay Corman asks, okay, Boris, before you punch, walk me through the politics of this, how this goes.
Obviously, the Supreme Court in Pennsylvania, in the Commonwealth, is Democratic, but man, this is a tight opinion, sir.
They haven't wanted to touch this.
They know this isn't a bomb that's going to go off on them.
That's what they called laches last time.
Too late, guys.
Don't want to address this.
Let's move on.
Let's look to the future.
This is also for the Republicans.
Every candidate says elections are about the future.
Elections are about reality, and if reality means you've got to go back in time, you've got to go back in time.
And you've got to get to the bottom of these things.
You can't let them fester.
You cannot let them fester.
So Boris, where do we go from here?
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼
And by the way, all crimes are cured after they happen.
Right?
It is absolutely unconscionable to think that when a wrongdoing is done, you somehow have to prevent it before.
That's not how the American criminal justice system or any criminal system works, or even the civil system.
First there's got to be a wrong, and then that wrong has to be cured.
And that's what's happening here.
We have the continuation of the curing of this wrong.
And what's going to happen is this is an absolute bombshell.
Now Reuters is covering it, AP is covering it, it is absolutely everywhere.
And by the way, this statement from Donald, President Donald J. Trump is out as we speak.
I would urge everybody to go take a look from Save America PAC.
President Donald Trump coming in hot on this specific issue and saying that if widespread mail-in balloting is illegal now, how could it be illegal in the rigged 2020 election?
The answer, as President Trump says it, and I'll say it here, that it was not.
It was rigged.
It was stolen in Pennsylvania.
And this gives more firepower to our fronts, more strength.
Again, always calling within the lines.
Madeline Peltz, Ari Melber, take it easy.
Okay, take it easy.
We're all within the lines.
DIVS gives more strength to Wisconsin, to here in Arizona, and to the legal process in Georgia, but it's also got to light a fire under the legislators in Georgia and in every state where the freight trade of audits, the freight trade of desertifications is going through.
This is a great day in the 3 November movement.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Boris, I'm going to shift to Navarro in a second, but I have a question.
We're at 285 right now.
305 minus 20.
We're going to decertify the 20 right there.
The court says, hey, these things are not legal.
The 2.6 million unrequested mail-in ballots have got to be thrown out.
All of them.
I'm not saying you gotta give it to Trump, but this gotta be decertified for Biden.
He's a 285.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We're 15 away, baby.
Suck on that, MSNBC.
We're coming in hot now, Boris.
It's a good day.
Boris, how do people track you down?
Peter, hang with me.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼
No doubt about it, Steve.
It's a great day.
Huge, huge, huge kudos to the Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania for doing the right thing.
And as always, to this unbelievably strong posse, the MAGA movement, under the leadership of President Trump.
We always hang tough.
We never take an inch back.
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The hottest on Getter at Boris CP, on Twitter at Boris CP, and of course on the Graham Boris underscore Epstein.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
If I could say one thing for the folks up there.
You've got Tim Ramtham and the good folks.
You've got the judge up there working in Wisconsin.
This ought to redouble your efforts after today.
The great warriors out in Arizona have done so much.
Incredible.
Redouble your efforts today.
You're right on the cusp.
This should push everybody over the top.
And in Georgia, which is a disgrace from start to finish, it's a disgrace.
This ought to shame you folks down there to get in gear and get something done.
I know it's in the court system down there.
By the way, you're going to see other bombshells in Georgia about those 120,000 ballots.
Trump won.
I don't care how much they hate hearing it.
And as soon as we get an official, this is why we keep saying, we want him to get in the court.
We want places to adjudicate it.
Once you can adjudicate the facts, we win.
Peter Navarro, and I've got to get some other stuff to you before I let you go, but this is the pick-and-shovel work that you did.
You were the backbone of this to get that over Thanksgiving weekend in 2020 and coming through today.
What are your thoughts and analysis on this?
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
Well, courage is contagious, so now as we see more and more favorable rulings, maybe Some of these Republicans in the legislatures around these six battleground states will get renewed vigor, as they say, to push forward stuff.
Right now, we've got Arizona proving one with the 50,000 ghost voters.
That's enough to swing the election.
Today in Pennsylvania, you throw out those Those absentee ballots and decertified, that's done.
In Georgia, we've talked about how the elimination of Signature Match basically swung the election illegally to Georgia.
And you go just right up and down.
I think what we've got is momentum, Steve, for the November 3rd movement.
And I'm telling you, it's like this Navarro report, the three-volume report, I urge everybody to go take a second look at this, because everything's there.
Everything is there.
It's just a matter of pushing forward this ball and getting it done.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
A second look.
A second look.
I want Ari Melber and his producer to take a first look.
You sat right there on national TV.
You said, Ari, of course he doesn't know the facts.
Why would I read that, right?
Hey, Ari, suck on this.
Look at the appeals for Commonwealth Court.
Why would I read that, right?
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
Why would I prepare for the interview?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
They're not laughing now.
Show me the fake news.
Where are all the lies?
And they say this is all lies and all made up.
Well, an appeals court in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania does not agree with you.
OK, so let's put that to rest.
20 electoral votes off for Biden.
Biden is illegitimate.
And now we're going to start hammering.
You think his poll numbers are low now?
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Right.
That clown and what the lies he's trying to do and drag us into a war in Ukraine so he can act like some big shot commander in chief.
While he is illegitimate here, he did not win the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and Mark Elias, you didn't steal it.
So I know it's a bad day for you.
You did not steal this.
You got caught out.
You got found.
Peter, I've got to have you on tomorrow.
I've got to do all the economy, and I've got to do everything tomorrow.
I've got a bunch of polls for you.
Just right now, give us, because I've got to bounce.
How did you get to the Navarre Report?
How did it get to you on social media?
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼
NavarroReport at PeterNavarro.com.
Real P. Navarro on Getter, the Twitter killer.
And go to my In Trump Time podcast, because what I'm doing is, as we do shows like this, I'm going a little bit more in-depth and then going out with the podcast to provide some more background to the show.
In Trump Time podcast on Apple.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We're going to start pushing.
You get the book on Amazon.
And by the way, tomorrow I've got to get you on about Malone and Larry Summers.
There's so much that includes you and what your work's been doing.
It's incredible.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, welcome back.
We got a lot to get through.
We're going to have Deloitte Stallman in here.
The Attorney General of the Commonwealth of Virginia put out an executive order, I think, banning mandatory vaccines for anybody in college.
We're going to get Deloitte on tomorrow.
We got Caroline Leavitt up in New Hampshire up on the Young Turks that are now in politics.
A lot of people were scheduled today.
We couldn't get on because of all this breaking news.
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I want to go, you know, the Biden administration, the Biden regime is focused on the eastern border of Ukraine.
War Room's focused on the southern border of the United States.
I want to go to Ben Burquam.
There's a great event down there.
He's in a bus.
Ben, what is going on down there in our favorite part of the country, the southern border, those great folks down there?
ben bergquam ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, God bless our Border Patrol.
We are on a VIP tour right now.
There's a great event going on this weekend put on by Women Fighting for America.
If you are in the McAllen area, McAllen, Texas area, tomorrow from 10 a.m.
to 6 p.m., the event will be at Pain Arena in Hidalgo.
Just outside of McAllen.
You can get more information at WeStandAmerica.com.
I'm gonna invite you guys.
As we speak right now, we have General Flynn here.
We just got an amazing interview with General Flynn.
We've got Tom Homan, Mark Morgan.
We've got Brandon Judd.
And right behind me, as we drove up, we had a group of illegals right in the trees.
They're actually sitting up there.
The cartel leader, or the smugglers, sitting up there.
They're bringing people across right behind us.
It is non-stop what is happening down here on the southern border.
Steve.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I want to go back through that, because we're going to be live tomorrow.
We're going to do a pregame on this.
This is a who's who of patriots that are trying to save this nation on the southern border.
Walk me through those names again, because this is like the all-star team.
ben bergquam ▲ ● ▼
Oh, it is.
The team here, I don't know if we have them right here.
We just got Mark Morgan, Tom Holman, Brandon Judd, Border Patrol Counsel, obviously, Tom Holman from ICE, and Mark Morgan from Border Patrol.
National security and, of course, General Flynn.
We have and many more tomorrow.
We're gonna it's an incredible group of people that are standing up for this country again being put on for women fighting for America.
And really, it's it's highlighting this.
These guys, they're actually they're actually raising their hands, lifting their hands up behind us about, you know, celebrating what they're able to do because of the Biden regime.
This is it's going to continue.
And the key is the word has to get out to the American people.
That is why we're here.
To get this word out while CNN and MSNBC and the rest of them ignore it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Hang on a second.
I want for a podcast and radio audience.
Real America's Voice is doing a great job.
Cut back.
If Real America's Voice can cut, just drop me off the thing.
Cut back to just Ben.
Ben, describe for our podcast and radio audience that can't see what is across the river.
It's shocking.
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Tell us exactly what's happening.
ben bergquam ▲ ● ▼
So we're right here, right on the edge of the Rio Grande River, and right across the way, inside of the trees, there is a group of cartel smugglers.
As we drove up, they were actually bringing a load across, a raft across, but it was actually a distraction raft.
So they brought the raft across, they had a couple guys on it, they took them back across, and while they're doing that, they're running drugs down the river, just, you know, a couple hundred yards down the river.
They sent a family across.
The Border Patrol picked them up.
It's all by design, and it's all controlled by the cartels.
And what Joe Biden and the Democrats and Secretary Mayorkas are doing is simply aiding and abetting the cartels' invasion into America.
And it's not just people coming from Mexico and Central America.
151 different countries coming into our country, breaking our sovereignty.
While they're focused on the Ukraine, they're letting our country be invaded and destroyed from within.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I want to say, they're mocking, they're sitting right there laughing at us.
This is the point.
They're laughing and mocking and giving high fives.
They are sitting across that river and they're mocking officials in the United States.
Because they have control.
We don't have control.
Article 1 of your impeachment, Biden.
Article 1 of your impeachment.
Article 1 is going to be that you exacerbated, allowed, and initiated an invasion of our country, given what Donald Trump had done to seal that border.
Article 1 of your impeachment, and you're getting impeached.
You're getting impeached.
I don't care if McCarthy and these guys said, you can't talk about that, you gotta talk about inflation.
Yeah, we're gonna talk about all that, and we've forgotten more about the economics, McCarthy, than you've ever known.
We're impeaching Joe Biden, and this is Article 1.
The cartel members are sitting there for our podcast.
Let's get that shot back.
They're laughing.
They're sitting there mocking people in the United States.
They're mocking people in the United States.
They're laughing.
They should laugh!
I don't blame them laughing.
They're gonna come across and bring their drugs across and bring the human trafficking across?
The people they abuse and make it more money than ever?
They should laugh at us.
They should laugh at us, because this is a nation in managed decline by our elites, as personified by Joe Biden.
Tell us, how do people get to the live stream?
How do they follow you?
We need people.
This is a monumental event in one of my favorite towns, the capital of the Rio Grande Valley, McAllen, Texas.
Tell us how to get there.
We're going to do it live tomorrow beforehand, but how do people stream it?
How do people get to you, Ben Burquam?
ben bergquam ▲ ● ▼
For tickets, again, you go to WeStandAmerica.com.
Real America's Voice will be covering it.
We get interviews all throughout the day, and then we'll be updating that on the rally coverage tomorrow night with President Trump as well.
So all weekend long, we're going to be bringing it to you, and then we'll be uploading these through... I mean, it's just incredible.
What we've already got, it's going to be on every show.
We're going to have it on War Room and all the rest of the shows as well, so stay tuned.
It's going to be epic.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Ben, fantastic job.
Real America's Voice, fantastic job.
Okay, we're going to be back here live again tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock.
We're going to do a lot of coverage of what's going down in McAllen, but we've got so much else to get through.
Economics, politics, what's happening in Pennsylvania, what's happening in the Ukraine.
The show is going to be on fire.
Of that, I can guarantee you.
So tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock.
I appreciate, appreciate all the effort of the folks in Denver.
Real America's Voice, John Fredericks, of course, G News and GTV have put us up in Mandarin.
Until tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock, you've been in The War Room.
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