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We will not comply with the institution's...
So there is a rally, January 23rd, where is it?
You want to give us the details?
dr robert malone
Washington, D.C.
between the Washington Monument and Lincoln Memorial.
So this is the Defeat the Mandates, an American Homecoming Rally.
The website is www.defeatthemandatesdc.com.
So this is not about being anti-vaccines, it's about being anti-mandates.
And our hope is that we bring people together.
I know that's one of your core messages.
People from every walk of life, every party.
Every religion, every ethnic background, Democrat, Republican, vaccinated, unvaccinated, the thing that we can agree on is personal liberty and the right of people to make their own choice.
And that's what this rally is about, is to resist these mandates of the vaccine.
Whether you believe in it or don't believe in it, I hope that you believe in the integrity and freedom of your fellow man and woman to make their own bodily choices.
Our objective is to end the vaccine mandates and also no vaccine passports, no vaccination for healthy children, no to censorship, no to limits on reasonable debate and this censorship and propaganda that we're constantly bombarded with.
We believe in the power of natural immunity.
We believe and insist on informed consent and we insist on allowing doctors and patients making decisions without interference together.
DefeatTheMandatesDC.com and you can find all the information.
January 23rd.
It's a Sunday.
Join not just with people in the United States but from all over the world for our common good.
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Welcome to the Raver.
steve bannon
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That, what you just heard, is a spot that's been cut for this rally.
It's going to take place on the 23rd, January 22, in a couple of weeks.
We're going to have Steve Kirsch, the tech entrepreneur who's in back of this.
But I've got to give a hat tip.
Our own Dr. Malone on the historic Joe Rogan.
And this is why the Joe Rogan interview will be looked at as a watershed.
Because remember, Even as great as Joe Rogan is and his audience.
So many of those millions that listen to Joe Rogan every day were not, did not have access and were not informed about the kind of common sense and really, you know, the expertise that Dr. Malone brings.
Dr. Malone has dedicated his life, his professional life, to vaccines.
And in this case, he's been saying from the beginning, from the absolute beginning, and he's the father of MRNA.
He says, we really got to watch this.
We got to be very careful.
The one thing we don't want to do is use it as a blunt force instrument.
It's not made to be a blunt force instrument.
And by doing that, and that's what the Washington Times had back in July, Dr. Peter Navarro, who internally to the Trump administration, was the guy that wrote the memo on 9 February.
With our own Dr. Steven Hatfield, who was our co-host and consultant for the first couple of first week of war and pandemic.
And then he went to the White House.
They came up with the idea of, hey, can we start a project warp speed that actually does double and triple time to try to find some sort of experimental vaccine?
So Navarro knows the limits to it.
Dr. Malone knows the limits to it.
And that's what they put out is science, not scientism.
The only correction I have to make off of his interview with Joe Rogan was an update over the weekend, of which Merriam-Webster's dictionary, the redo for 2022, now has anti-vax, just not meaning people hit or for kind of in the children's health defense or people that are hardcore, hey, no vaccines at any time.
But the new definition includes, wait for it, People who are against and stand opposed to vaccine mandates.
We're going to get back to Dr. Robert Malone in a second, but I've got to bring in Steve Kirsch.
Steve was a high-tech entrepreneur and started off in the pandemic situation back in the winter and the spring of 2020, looking to pull people together for a solution, but I think kind of went through an awakening.
He's now Executive Director of the Vaccine Safety So Steve, tell us about your journey, tell us about the Institute, about your ideas about vaccines today, and this amazing rally that you guys are pulling together on 23 January here between the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial.
Sure.
steve krisch
You know, I started out with early treatment.
When the pandemic started, the scientists I talked to said pursue early treatment.
And so I focused on funding research on drugs like fluvoxamine, which are now on in practice guidelines in places in both America and Canada.
And I was on 60 Minutes, featured on 60 Minutes for my work in helping to fund that research.
And we've refunded other research as well.
steve kirsch
But what happened is that I was vaccinated back, I was doubly vaccinated back in March.
And what happened is that After being vaccinated, about a month later, I started hearing stories from my friends.
People who had been vaccinated and then died within a week after being vaccinated.
So I had one friend who had three relatives that were perfectly healthy, and all three of them died within a week after being vaccinated.
And I said, somebody's lying to me.
It's either my friend Or it's the CDC.
So I decided to investigate.
steve krisch
And the more I looked, the more I found that all of this was consistent with the story that the vaccines were unsafe.
steve kirsch
And people needed to be told that story.
steve krisch
So I actually tipped off Robert Malone about the study on the biodistribution data.
And so that led to both of us being on Brett Weinstein.
On the Dark Horse podcast that lasted for several hours that really started this whole thing going.
steve kirsch
And both Dr. Malone and I basically have, you know, since that day been very consistent in saying that these are very, very dangerous vaccines.
These vaccines are about a thousand times more dangerous than the smallpox vaccine, which is deemed to be too unsafe to use.
steve krisch
And we're talking something that's a thousand times worse.
steve bannon
Hang on a second.
Being a high-tech entrepreneur, that means obviously you're very familiar with venture capital, you're very familiar with private equity.
That is the world of hyper-rationality.
Sometimes it's fantasy, but most of the time it's hyper-rationality, right?
How do you go from there?
And in the belly of it, and particularly I understand Silicon Valley, and you know, initially it's all, let's have a group hug and figure out how to get here, until you have an awakening.
I take it you're not invited to the same dinner parties and cocktail parties that they think now you're a raving madman?
I mean, it's because you're an apostate.
So walk us through that, because I want to, this is why you're so interesting.
You've kind of come from the belly of the beast.
You're crazier than the guys that are normally on War Room Pandemic.
So walk us through that.
steve kirsch
Yeah, I'm basically pretty simple.
I'm an MIT-trained engineer.
I have a couple of degrees in electrical engineering and computer science from MIT.
And we're trained to just look at the data.
And when we see a problem, We're trained to try to minimize the problem.
And so what intervention, you know, such as early treatment can go and minimize the loss of life.
And so we're not so concerned about a reputation.
We're concerned about, you know, solving a particular problem.
So what led me into this belief that I have is just the data.
The data was overwhelming.
Any scientist basically, you know, you have a hypothesis.
Either the CDC is telling you the truth or your friends are telling you the truth.
And it's one or the other.
And so you look and you see what the evidence is.
And it turns out that all the evidence that I found was all consistent with that the CDC is lying to us.
Every single piece of evidence.
I couldn't find anything that supported the safe and effective narrative of the CDC.
And I couldn't get them to even talk to me.
I even offered a million dollars to the people on the FDA and CDC external committees.
I said, look, you know, I think the evidence is pretty damning here.
And even for a million dollars, these people would not, none of them, would even respond to my offer.
And this is just a million dollars.
This is not if you win the debate.
This is just a million dollars just to talk to me for a few hours.
steve bannon
Steve, hang on for a second, because I'm going to lose Dr. Malone.
Dr. Malone, here's the thing I think that people, and I keep talking about the administrative How could it be?
And you spent your entire life with these institutions, organizations.
What is so mind-blowing to people is how could what Steve Kersh just said is correct.
How could the CDC, which has had this tremendous reputation for many, many decades, how could they be in the business now of, in Kersh's opinion, in your opinion, backed up by facts as you guys present them, be in the business of misinformation, sir?
dr robert malone
Because they're a political operation.
The thing with CDC, FDA, USDA, FAA is they have dual purpose.
They are to promote the industry and regulate it.
This is a fundamental change we have to make in public policy.
These people are really disproportionate in their bias towards promoting vaccines and promoting the industry.
That is their rationale for just getting deeply in bed with the likes of Pfizer.
They believe it's their mission.
They believe that they are doing the work of the administration, and that is to say the work of Tony Fauci, because Tony Fauci is the principal advisor on all policy relating to COVID-19 currently.
steve bannon
Dr. Malone, I know you're up on Getter and people are going to want to see you now more than ever because, quite frankly, the Joe Rogan thing is exploding everywhere.
Walk our audience through once again.
How can people get up to keep up to date with you?
You're putting stuff out all the time on your Getter feed.
How do they get to your sub stack?
Walk us through that.
dr robert malone
So all of my stuff is linked to my name, R.W.
Malone, M.D.
So we have R.W.
Malone, M.D.
dot com is a website, which, by the way, has a huge counterattack on Reuters fact checking regarding children, vaccine safety and and tons and tons of documentation there.
Then we have the substack, which is R.W.
Malone, M.D.
It's titled Who is Robert Malone?
Then we have the getter account at R.W.
Malone, M.D., and likewise on LinkedIn.
And obviously, I have been deleted from Twitter, and no loss.
Twitter was throttling me all the way through, and Getter isn't.
And I now have, I think, something like 130,000 followers already on Getter.
By comparison, in your lead, you talked about Getter having 2 million subscribers.
Somehow that's out of date, because I'm told now that Rogan, having flipped over, Has got 8 million followers on Getter, so I think Getter's a lot bigger than you were saying.
steve bannon
Yeah, no, the spot has been overcome by events, positive events.
Dr. Malone, you're a real warrior, and it was so glad to have you really introduced to a broader section of the nation through the Joe Rogan interview.
It's going to be historic.
It's an inflection point, and we want to thank you for just keeping in the fight.
It's just incredible.
dr robert malone
It's been a pleasure.
Been a pleasure having the travel with you, Steve.
steve bannon
Thanks, brother.
Okay, we're going to come back and take a short commercial break.
Steve Kirsch, an extraordinary individual, put it all on the line.
Now, on the 23rd of January, they're going to bring a gathering of the tribes here to Washington, D.C.
He's going to tell us all the details about it.
We're going to go to occupied Europe after that in Ben Harnwell.
We've got Tho Bishop to talk about the Federal Reserve.
Easy Money, how it's destroying your life and how it's going to destroy the nation's life.
And of course, Joe Allen on transhumanism, all next!
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Also, the FDA during the show just announced, what, authorization of the vaccine for 12 to 15 year olds.
They knew Dr. Malone was coming on today and Steve Kerr, so they just want to make heads blow up.
Just get in your grill.
This is what they think about the Vaccine Safety Institute.
So what about that, Steve?
I mean, you've dedicated your life.
You're an entrepreneur.
You're a guy that's dealt with capital markets before and building companies.
You've kind of come, you've had an awakening about this.
First off, what are the two, just give me like an adventure capital picture, what are the two or three data points, evidence, that you can put forward that says the CDC is lying about the vaccines to wit?
And you're coming on the show this morning, and we advertised that, and we advertised Dr. Mohan's coming on, and I know the FDA didn't do it because of this, but There are no coincidences.
They approved it now for 12 to 15-year-olds.
So they're saying, hey, Kirsch, we hear you.
Malone, we hear you.
And we raise your one.
Steve Kirsch.
steve krisch
Yeah, so, you know, it's hard to just narrow it down to maybe three data points, but I'd probably start with the VAERS database, because that's the official database that is used for safety monitoring By all the government agencies.
steve kirsch
It's a government run database.
steve krisch
It's used by the government agencies.
steve kirsch
Although anyone can report, mostly it's health care providers and the Health and Human Services reviews everything before it goes into the database.
There are 10,000 domestic deaths reported in VAERS, but VAERS is historically underreported.
And using CDC's own methodology, The underreporting factor is about 41 or greater, which means that we've killed, that this vaccine has killed over 400,000 Americans who were formerly healthy.
steve krisch
Now a lot of them are over 65, but a lot of them are also between 18 and— Hang on, hang on, hang on, because that number—walk us through.
steve bannon
How do you, with two degrees from MIT in engineering, not in philosophy, how do you get—I want to walk through the equation—how do you get to 400,000 deaths?
steve krisch
If you go to a place like Open VAERS, which is just one of the three portals into the VAERS database, they're all the same, they give the same information.
You go to Open VAERS, and you flip the, you slide the slider, and you look at domestic deaths.
You'll find that it's about 9,500 or so domestic deaths.
We'll call it, we'll round it up to 10,000.
steve kirsch
It'll be over 10,000 very soon.
So that's one piece of data, and that's from the US government.
Now the second piece of data that you have to calculate is called this under-reporting factor, because VAERS is a voluntary system, so not everybody reports.
steve krisch
So typically VAERS only sees a small fraction of the reports, and so you don't know what the true number is, you just know what the small sample size is, because people will have 41 events, there will be 41 deaths, and only one death will be reported.
steve kirsch
As an example, I know a neurologist who has 2,000 vaccine injured.
She's only filed two VAERS reports.
So she has an underreporting factor of 1,000.
steve bannon
Hold on, MSNBC, when I see the government officials come on, they're saying, well, you can't take VAERS, first time they've ever mentioned, you can't take VAERS because people just report in.
And we, as the government and CDC, we're not saying that that number is a real number, an official number.
In fact, any can report in.
How do you rebut what the mainstream media is saying, which they've never questioned VAERS before, but in this situation, all of a sudden, since Steve Kirsch and And others are saying that, Malone and others are saying that it shows you that you're having all these deaths.
They're saying, well, that was never, it's never, it's not validated, it's not regulated.
What say you, sir?
steve krisch
Well, I say that they won't talk to me.
steve kirsch
Even for a million dollars, they won't come to the debate table and do a recorded debate so we can discuss this.
steve krisch
And, you know, if I'm wrong, and if all my scientist friends are wrong, who look at the various database and they're There are people who spend full time looking at this stuff and they say the same thing and they found the same thing.
steve kirsch
We have several different people who have gone through this and they find the same numbers that I found and so we're all using the CDC methodology.
It was published in a paper by five CDC authors a year ago for how you find the underreporting factor and we're doing it by the book and we're doing The statistics on anaphylaxis to determine this rate that was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
So we're doing everything by the book.
We're following the instructions that they gave us precisely to determine how underreported VAERS is.
And it's consistent with earlier reports that were done where VAERS was deemed to be anywhere from 10 to 100 times underreported.
So coming up with a number like 41, is well within the ballpark of what you'd expect.
steve bannon
But hang on, Steve.
Steve, you come from the rational world of MIT and Silicon Valley.
Why would physicians and good people who are not working for Pfizer, but people at the deck plates level, why would there not be a massive uprising around this topic?
steve krisch
Well, part of it is this mass formation psychosis that Dr. Malone Talked about on the Rogan interview.
steve kirsch
So there are only about 30% of the people that are kind of awake and know what's going on.
But you see, they're restricted from speaking out because any doctor who speaks out will have their medical license revoked by these medical boards.
All these medical boards, there are about 150 medical boards and all of them have the exact same rules that we will take away your license if you spread misinformation.
And misinformation is defined as anything that goes against what the CDC says.
And so none of these doctors are able to speak out because they don't want to lose their livelihood.
They don't want to lose their ability to practice medicine.
This is why doctors are all saying, oh, take the vaccine, safe and effective, because they have to.
Because if they say anything else, they will have their license removed.
That's why you're not hearing objections.
And this is why no one will debate me.
Because they can't go on camera and lie about it.
And nobody wants to talk about it.
And I have emailed the CDC, the FDA, Steven Anderson at the FDA, who is the guy who's supposed to be responsible for safety monitoring at the FDA, and he doesn't say a word.
And I'm a big misinformation spreader, according to them.
They could take me down just by debating me, but they don't because they know.
It's like why Bobby Kennedy has been trying for 20 years to get a debate on vaccine safety.
Nobody will debate Kennedy for the same reason that nobody will debate me because I know what the facts are and because I can use the facts against them.
And, you know, the CDC assertion that nobody has died from these vaccines is preposterous.
It's utter garbage.
And the papers that the CDC publishes are garbage as well.
And I, I, I dissect all these things on my sub stack and, and you can read all the analysis and, you know, 60 pages of the derivation of the Underreporting factor.
All of this is in plain sight.
And nobody's coming up with numbers that are more accurate or saying, oh, you're wrong.
Here's the more accurate number.
They're just saying, oh, well, you can't do that.
But you can.
You can make engineering estimates of what's going on.
And I've got 10 different ways to come up with the same number.
I've got 10 different ways of coming up with 150,000 deaths or more.
Caused by these vaccines.
And nobody's challenging these.
I even offered a million dollars if they could just challenge one of them.
This is a Matthew Crawford's excess death analysis.
And I said, I'm giving you a million dollars.
All you have to do is publish a paper that shows that we got it wrong, and I'll give you a million dollars.
And nobody's coming up with a challenge.
And that's just one of the 10 ways.
So this stuff, they just do not want to talk about it.
And you know, the people who are, they have to censor us.
Steve, it's part of the mass formation psychosis.
It requires censorship.
This is the first time in history that the leader of the free world has a censorship list.
And you know, the American public is completely against this.
But there isn't a member of Congress that's speaking out against the censorship list.
I mean, this is unheard of.
And also, if you ask a member of Congress, hey, how many kids have to die before you will pull the plug on these vaccines?
How many kids have to die?
And you know what the answer is from members of Congress about this?
The answer is, we don't want to answer that question.
So there's no stopping condition for these vaccines.
They can kill a thousand kids, ten thousand kids, a hundred thousand kids.
They won't stop it.
They don't even want to look at the problem.
They don't want to acknowledge that the vaccines are killing people.
They don't want to face the truth.
And on my Substack today, I published an article about this insurance company in Indiana, and it is devastating, okay?
Because this is from the CEO of a big insurance company in Indiana, and he reported a 40% Yeah, let's take a commercial break.
steve bannon
We're going to turn to Steve Kirsch.
We're going to talk about this and also about the rallies that are going to take place on the 23rd of January.
We'll be back in the War Room in a moment.
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I want to go back to Steve Kirsch.
So Steve, we're burning data a little bit here.
On your sub stack, and we're putting it up on, you're on Getter, we're going to start linking to you, get everything across all platforms, guys, right now with Steve Kirsch.
In 60 seconds, why is this Indiana thing such a big deal?
steve krisch
You know, this is the biggest thing that we've run across because it It's, first of all, it's from mainstream America.
steve kirsch
It's not about bears and they can't criticize it.
It's from the CEO of a big insurance company in Indiana.
steve krisch
So that's an unassailable source.
steve kirsch
They can't detect the source.
And these guys are just reporting what's coming in, in terms of claims.
And the claims are in deaths and disabilities, which are up by 40%.
Now, normally from year to year, these claims are very constant.
So to have them come, have them suddenly rise, In the last two quarters of this year, by 40% versus baseline is extraordinary.
There's never been anything like that before.
It's unheard of.
It's the biggest health disaster in human history.
And the CDC has no clue what's going on.
And the only thing that fits that's consistent with all of the data that is reported is that the vaccines are causing these excess deaths.
And so based on the report.
unidentified
Well, hang on.
steve bannon
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
But hold it.
But what they say is, what about if it's COVID-19 causing the deaths, not the vaccines?
steve kirsch
No, no.
steve bannon
You have to read the article.
steve kirsch
The deaths, the deaths, the deaths.
steve krisch
COVID deaths went down.
steve bannon
Okay, fine.
unidentified
Okay, fine.
steve kirsch
So the only explanation that fits all the facts are that this is being caused by the vaccine.
steve bannon
But in the words of him himself, he said COVID or COVID related.
Correct?
I'm just repeating what the guy said in the interview.
steve krisch
Yeah, he said that the increase was not due to COVID because COVID claims actually went down during the period.
steve kirsch
And so something like this where it's a huge rise that only happened In the last two quarters.
Couldn't be caused by COVID.
steve bannon
Let us get in.
Let us get into that.
We'll read your sub stack.
We'd like to have you back on tomorrow, but walk us through because we want to get to the details.
So explosive.
I think we've got to make sure everybody's got the facts.
Go to 23 January.
Why are you guys doing a rally and how do people get information about what they should do to get there and participate?
steve kirsch
Yeah, so it's just really important that everybody in Washington DC who believes in Self-determination that you should be able to control what goes in your body participates in this because it's all about stopping these mandates.
You know, clearly these vaccines are, you know, if you believe what I write in my sub stack and you can verify anything, everything, these vaccines are dangerous.
They're killing people.
And for kids, it's even worse.
But you know, Even if it was a perfectly safe vaccine, we should have the ability to choose what goes in our body.
This should not be mandated.
And there's no reason for the mandates.
And so this is a walk in protest for these mandates.
And it starts at the Washington Monument.
It's on Sunday.
It starts at 1130 a.m.
And the most important thing is to go to that website, DefeatTheMandatesDC.com.
And sign up and register because we want to have over 200,000 people registered.
And so getting people who are local in Washington is how we can get those big numbers.
And everybody in Washington, if you're a living human being in Washington, please be at that rally and register on the website.
It's a few hours of your time.
Starts at 1130 a.m.
at the Washington Monument.
We'll walk for a mile to the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.
And there'll be a bunch of speakers there.
Robert Malone will be there.
Bobby Kennedy will be there.
Dr. Brett Weinstein will be there.
Dr. Chris Martinson will be there.
I will be there.
Pierre Corey will be there.
Paul Merrick will be there.
Ryan Cole.
There'll be celebrities as well.
And we're going to keep that a surprise.
I think people will have a great time.
steve krisch
It's a fantastic way to spend a Sunday afternoon in support of your rights.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to link to it everywhere.
Steve Kirsch, thank you.
We look forward to having you back on, hopefully tomorrow or the next day.
We've got to go through this thing in Indiana, but we're going to get everybody to make sure everybody's aware of this major important rally on the 23rd of January at 1130 at the Washington Monument, marching down to the Lincoln Memorial to hear speakers.
Steve, thank you so much for being here and joining us today.
steve krisch
Thanks, Steve.
My pleasure.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to go to Occupied Europe.
Do we have the clip?
Let's play the Ben Harnwell clip on Amsterdam.
damn way we bring Benham. Wow.
Okay, that's Amsterdam yesterday with a march.
I want to bring in Ben Harnewell.
By the way, if we can play the B-roll, we could have played 10 minutes of this.
The footage is incredible.
Tommy Robinson's got it up on his site.
Ben Harnewell, what are we watching there?
ben harnwell
Hi Steve, can you hear me?
steve bannon
I can hear you and I can hear some great music in the background too.
ben harnwell
Yeah, it's a bit of a distraction going on behind me.
So the protests in Holland, were to do with really protests against the new Covid restrictions that the Dutch government brought in from the 19th of December, limiting people going, this is vaccinated as well, to restaurants and bars and all non-essential outlets.
And the mayor of Amsterdam had, sensing the level of protest, had prohibited the demonstration.
And when that wasn't working, she then issued an executive order to the police to clear the piazza.
unidentified
This is the Museum Square.
ben harnwell
At that point, the protest turned violent.
And we see some of the footage here that you were showing, just the level of anger and outrage that was developing in the Dutch capital.
steve bannon
These people are normally quite passive, right?
What's got them so fired up?
And by the way, the violence looked like it was the police got violent.
It didn't look like the protesters, but I might be incorrect.
So enlighten me.
ben harnwell
Well, I mean, the protesters refused to leave when the police tried to evict them.
And I think the violence was a consequence of that.
Interesting to see some of the placards which were being waved about.
Stop world control, said one.
Another, it's not about a virus, it's about control.
Less repression, more care.
I was most amazed when I saw one placard in the footage which said Trump 2024.
And I just want to take a moment just to dwell on that because sometimes when we see international protests around the world, like for example in Hong Kong, you see the US flag.
Because of its emblematic nature to do with freedom.
It wasn't the US flag that they're waving.
It wasn't, as we saw in Down Street in London, the protests a couple of weeks ago, the Gadsden flag, don't tread on me flag.
This was Trump 2024 in a foreign city.
And I think that just illustrates the degree to which Donald Trump now encapsulates within himself the anti-vaccine anger that exists.
unidentified
I think that's very interesting to note.
steve bannon
Thank God they didn't see the O'Reilly tour, but I digress.
We'll get to that hopefully tomorrow.
Real quickly on China.
You've been at the lead of this.
Your getter account's on fire.
Walk us through the updates on China and the Vatican.
ben harnwell
Well, it's worth remembering here that on the 4th of February, the Beijing Winter Olympics are I've been likening on my getter posts the similarity between Xi Jinping and Mayor Larry Vaughan of George, whom we remember in the face of clear danger insisted on opening his town of Amity Island in July 4th, but in China the focus
Worldwide focus is on the Beijing Olympics.
And what he did, just for viewers who are joining us for the first time today, he shut down this city called Xi'an City, which is over three times larger than Los Angeles.
It's a tourist center.
This is where the Terracotta Army is.
It's also It has chip factories there.
It produces, for example, 40% of the global output of Samsung.
So when the Chinese shut down, I should say the CCP, shut down a city like this, there's a reason for it.
Their official reason was that there were six infected people who came in on a flight from Pakistan with the Delta variant.
That's not even Omicron, it's Delta.
So the CCP is obviously lying.
And what I've been trying to do, along with my international bureau here in Rome, is to dig down a little bit and find out what are they lying about.
And here's some of the things the witnesses that have been sending through to my Geta account have been telling me about the situation in Xi'an City right now.
So as I mentioned last week, and there are some developments, but as I mentioned last week, The first thing they did was that they designated one person in every household to leave every two days for essential supplies.
That's now gone, OK?
So nobody can leave their house at any point in time unless it is for the COVID test.
And you'll say, well, how can that possibly be in a city of 13 million people?
People will starve.
And they are starving.
Last week on this show, we produced footage that was taken there in Xi'an City, taken at night from a number of different Tower blocks of people opening their windows and screaming with fear because they had no food and that I was watching those videos it sends a chill down the spine.
So the next thing that the Xi'an City authorities did was that they all did all windows closed, they locked the residential tower blocks from the outside so you literally couldn't leave and they were disinfecting the streets and the pavements which were totally empty.
What has emerged now, and I must thank the brave Chinese folk who've been sending this information to my account, is that it's emerging now, news, that there are patients there who are bleeding from their eyes and their nose and their ears.
And I'm saying, if you're listening to me now, if you're joining us now from Xi'an, please send in as much details about this as possible, because the speculation is, and we're the only people, Steve, in the world, reporting on this possibility that there is a new variant which President Xi is suppressing, and we're calling it, for want of a better term, the Xi'an variant.
There is the possibility that this is now getting out of hand.
And out of control.
It is slipping from President Xi's grasp.
Why?
Because the latest news in, and this just came in today, is that in the middle of the night, under the cover of darkness, the traffic, the Xi'an City Council vehicles are going around, carting people away at midnight.
So there is clearly something there.
Yes, Steve?
steve bannon
Ben, we've got to bounce.
Give your getter account and we'll get back to the Vatican, the hacking of the Vatican tomorrow or tonight.
What's your getter account so people can follow you?
ben harnwell
My getter account is at Parnwell.
And as I say, once again, I'd be very, very grateful.
But on the ground, I have footage and reports and photos, if you can keep those coming in.
steve bannon
Okay, thank you very much, Ben Harnwell.
International Bureau, live from Rome.
Short break, Tho Bishop from Mises Institute, next.
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steve bannon
With Joe Rogan and Tim Pool and others, I think something like 50 new VIPs signed up yesterday.
Over 200,000 new users and it's continuing today.
Make sure you go to Getter.
It's a place I got my personal account.
You can see our analysis of news items all day long, 24 hours a day, plus the Wordom site.
I want to go now to an individual hearing a lot more on this show in 2022 to talk about the out of control Federal Reserve and how it's doing a rolling devaluation of your paycheck.
OK, and it's crushing you.
The city's out of control.
The Fed's out of control.
Wall Street's out of control.
You know, all your bettors.
Are literally leading us on a suicide mission on the U.S.
economy driven by what they're doing and spending in the U.S.
dollar.
Phil Bishop from Mises.
Though we don't have time to get into that date, although I'm going to have you back, we're going to deconstruct all that because you're an expert.
I've got to ask you, because today's show has really dealt with the administrative state.
Do we have, not just regulatory capture, but administrative state capture by the Big Pharma?
Is Big Pharma so out of control right now that it actually controls a huge portion of the administrative state?
Or have, in your opinion, because I know you're an Austrian school libertarian, Have they actually, have they had, like we've had elite merger between the CCP and the party of Davos and Wall Street?
Have we had merger of big pharma's interest and the administrative state's interest, sir?
unidentified
Absolutely.
And I think that kind of ties into that Federal Reserve issue, because what we're seeing is the weaponization of this, you know, credentialism, right?
They hide behind these failing institutions to simply promote the agenda of the regime, subsidized by debt-fueled Federal Reserve monetary policy.
They create corporate privileges from the state to protect these large international companies.
We've seen this massive consolidation of corporate power driven by access to cheap credit and all this sort of aspect to it.
And we've created the system where we have used the regulatory regime to weaponize the private sector, the corporate sector against the public.
And what we're seeing play out right now with the disaster of these public health authoritarians This is what we've seen throughout, particularly since we've had this fiat-fueled administrative state.
This is simply one aspect of it, but it's simply one of many where, again, the regime is at war with the public and using the tools of plunder that go back to the dawn of civilization.
steve bannon
So, real quickly, they're back here now and they're talking about not just Build Back Broke and different aspects of it.
I know they're cooking up already another stimulus, another $1 or $2 trillion stimulus package because they're saying they're shutting down the cities with the vaccine passports and the schools, transportation's a complete debacle.
They're cooking up another stimulus package that's going to drop in March or April.
What say you, sir?
unidentified
This is where there's all this talk about, oh, we're going to cut spending here from the Republican side.
That's never happened.
And there is no political will for it.
You have the Fed that continues to change the goalposts of their own right.
You know, they were shocked at inflation at the early part of the year when it was very predictable.
They don't have another answer here.
Any sort of attempt to stop it, to reign this back, is gonna lead to a meltdown in the financial system that they can't afford.
So their only solution is to continue to pump this economy full of pain medication and do nothing to fix the underlying problems here.
And so I think that there's gonna be no will to stop it.
And what's gonna be interesting is that there's no opposition on this at all in DC, right?
I mean, you're gonna end up having a majority of Republicans in the Senate supporting the same sort of policies that they're gonna campaign against you know, throughout the year, when there is no opposition party on this sort of stuff.
We shouldn't be surprised we're going to see the continuation of the policies that have gotten us here right now.
steve bannon
This young man just nailed it right there.
This is exactly why the Uniparty came up with 10 votes, Republican votes, to raise the debt ceiling a total of $3 trillion for one year and put it 30 days after the midterm elections.
And they're doing it out in the open.
It's not a conspiracy.
The con is right in front, the three-card money is right in front of you guys.
So, I look forward to having you back on here.
We're going to take more time to go through all this.
But how do people, I want people and I want to put it up on our platforms, how do people get access to Mises?
How do they get access to you, your writing, your getter account, website, all of it?
unidentified
M-I-S-E-S dot org, Mises dot org, is our website.
It's a great source, a ton of great commentary out there.
You can find me at both Twitter and Getter, T-H-O Bishop, B-I-S-H-O-P.
Megan, this is, I think, one of the most important stories out there right now, and I appreciate you on the most important show in the country right now giving me a little bit of time to get into it.
steve bannon
No, it's central because If you can cut them off from this lifeblood, we can actually start to have an adult conversation.
Here's the thing, and I can tell you this about the audience, they love discussion, and not talking down to them, they love discussion of capital markets, of public finance, of exactly how this is able to continue.
Because once the population understands the real basics for capital markets and for this type of finance, and understand that it's on their shoulders, it all comes down to them, And they get a vote in this, and you and myself and others this show are going to put them in the room to have a voice?
That's when it stops.
It only stops.
You talked about political will.
Go ahead, sir.
unidentified
It takes a whole lot of academic indoctrination to believe that any of the stuff the Fed's doing makes any sense.
your average American who recognizes the importance of balancing their own budget, they have a lot more understanding of how this economy is supposed to work than any of these Ivy League PhD economists that not only infect our own central banks, but have infected the world now.
And so that is one of the narratives out there is that we have used the American university system that is doing so well, and we have taken over the intellectual process of so many other central banks. And so that's why this is not simply an American issue, this is a global issue.
And again, that's something that is going to be very troubling, I think, in the years to come.
steve bannon
Tho Bishop from Mises, thank you very much for joining us here in the War Room.
We're going to be back here at five o'clock today.
We're going to go through the redistricting.
We're going to go through exactly what's happening to make sure we set the predicate for a hundred house sweep.
A hundred new seats in the House.
A sweeping, massive victory to throw these bums out and to take back control of this country tonight at five o'clock.
See you back in the War Room.
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