Dec. 27, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Good King Wenceslas looked out on the feast of Stephen, When the snow lay round about, deep and crisp and even, Brightly shone the moon that night, though the frost was cruel, When the poor man came inside, bearing winter fuel. | |
| Heather, page and staff, thy men climb, if thou must it tear in, From their peasant to be seen, and their men to be seen. | ||
| The seventh or eighth year, I think, that Stephen K Bannon has turned over the microphone to me for this day and taken some well-deserved time for himself. | ||
| The Feast of St. | ||
| Stephen's also, and of course we know that Boxing Day is the 26th, you're hearing this on the 27th, but we thank you for bearing with us as we shift some things around for this Christmas period. | ||
| So, this last year has been really, truly... Look, I've been in this media politics business now for, gosh, nearly 15 years. | ||
| And every year I think, oh, this is it, this is Pete crazy. | ||
| And sure enough, the next year is just just crazier and crazier. | ||
| More and more things are happening, not necessarily saying that it's always going to get better. | ||
| And we know from this year it's it's been a particularly tough time for a lot of people. | ||
| But, you know, you think about it. | ||
| I was there in the room when we won the Brexit vote in 2016, June the 23rd, up on the top floor of the Milbank Tower in London. | ||
| I was also in the official Trump Hotel victory party at the Hilton in New York on November the 8th, 2016. | ||
| You know, there's been just so many things where you think, oh, this surely not much more can be added to all of this and start changing around you. | ||
| But it does and it keeps going and you just got to kind of use this. | ||
| What I do is I use a small period of time between Christmas and the New Year to look back, reflect, try and learn some lessons and then apply those over the course of the next year and encourage everybody to do the same themselves. | ||
| I'm sure a lot of you already do. | ||
| One of the things that changed drastically over the course of the last year, two years, is politics in New York, and specifically a group in Manhattan, operating out of Manhattan I should say, that has just done what I thought could never have been done, quite frankly, and that is putting hundreds upon hundreds of conservatives in the same room for big set speeches from | ||
| Right-wing firebrands coming around from all around the country to go to New York and talk to these people and host these galas and events that are bringing people together and really getting a fight back going in the places that I think need a lot of the fight back most. | ||
| And the reason I say that is because the way I perceive taking the fight to the enemy is that you don't allow them to move their tanks onto your lawn and then fight them in your territory. | ||
| Thank you for having me, Raheem, and I fully agree with everything you just said. | ||
| of the one of the greatest battalions around right now is joining us here. | ||
| Gavin Wax is the president of the New York Young Republicans. | ||
| Gavin joining us from Getter HQ. | ||
| Gavin, thank you for joining us here on this Boxing Day special. | ||
| Thank you for having me Rahim and I fully agree with everything you just said. | ||
| We have to let the tanks roll in and that's what we're trying to do here in New York. | ||
| So there's a couple of things I want to get into with you. | ||
| We'll start with the New York young Republicans. | ||
| So, whenever I say this to people, especially maybe prior to the last year, and I say, oh, I'd go out for an NYYRC event, and it was just kind of like a rolling of the eyes. | ||
| What is the point in spending time in New York? | ||
| What is the point in, you know, Just going to one of these social clubs or whatever and I keep telling people and trying to remind them of the importance of the greater fight that's taking place here. | ||
| Tell me why for you it mattered to really take this club from, I think I heard you had 40 members at one point when you took over, to how many do you have now? | ||
| We're pushing 1,000 as of today. | ||
| We're in the mid-900s. | ||
| I haven't lost track. | ||
| But I think there has been a sentiment, particularly in conservative circles, we have to abandon We have to give up the cities. | ||
| We have to retreat, as you mentioned in your opening. | ||
| We have to retreat. | ||
| We have to cede ground. | ||
| And that's a losing mentality. | ||
| It's especially a losing mentality when you think that the culture and a lot of what sets the narrative is framed in the cities. | ||
| And by giving up the cities, we are giving an edge to the left and their war to destroy all that is holy and destroy all that we hold dear. | ||
| So fighting back, even if it is a Uh, a task not, you know, up, most people wouldn't be up for in a place like New York. | ||
| It still has to be done. | ||
| And I still think you can find great successes, even in the belly of the beast, even behind enemy lines. | ||
| I mean, when we took over this club, it was a club that only had its history and tradition and legacy, uh, which was, you know, it goes back over a hundred years. | ||
| Uh, but we had to rebuild it from the ashes. | ||
| And we were told if we embrace, you know, Trump, if we embrace being conservative or being right wing or being firm in our beliefs and principles, that we would suffer, that we would lose. | ||
| members that we would lose you know funders that we would be relegated to know the the ash heap of history we've seen that are standing boldly and actually pushing for our values and principles in this city I has led to a massive resurgence a renaissance of young conservatives many up-and-coming talent are coming to our club I and it's been a massive success in in every quantifiable metric whether it's members event attendance how we've been able to influence elections in our favor how we've been able to set the narrative | ||
| the publicity we've generated and so on and so forth. | ||
| So, that would be my message to other groups across the country that if we can do it in New York, I'm not sure what's holding anyone else back. | ||
| Well, are you one of the largest in the country now? | ||
| We are the largest club in the country. | ||
| I think we're the largest young Republican club in the country, and frankly, I think we're one of the largest Republican clubs in the country. | ||
| You know, our dues alone are enabling us to have a clubhouse Here in the city, it's like a little speakeasy for conservatives in the heart of Manhattan. | ||
| We haven't had a clubhouse like that in over 60 years. | ||
| And going into next year, we're looking to even expand. | ||
| We've outgrown it. | ||
| And, you know, we've elected several members to the New York City Council. | ||
| Four by last count. | ||
| It's a small number, but it still counts for something. | ||
| It's the largest delegation we've had in the city council, you know, since pre-Giuliani. | ||
| So we've had political success. | ||
| We've had success in terms of our events. | ||
| As you mentioned, we just had our 109th annual gala, with over 500 people in attendance. | ||
| It was certainly one of the events of the year, if I was to opine on it. | ||
| But it just goes to show that there's a mass... It was so good that I don't remember being there, okay? | ||
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That's how good it was. | |
| Gavin, listen, I want to talk about this because, you know, there's a big social element to this. | ||
| Anybody who follows me on Instagram knows that there's a big social element to this. | ||
| Um, but it, but the social element is kind of the, the, the, just the foundation. | ||
| You know, you've got to be in the same room with people. | ||
| You've got to be meeting people. | ||
| You've got to be exchanging ideas in order for everything else, um, to flourish. | ||
| And, and I think, you know, having, I kind of, not to sound like a creep, but I kind of study what you guys do. | ||
| I watch it very closely and I look at the You know, I'm sure you think nobody reads through your program at your gala, but I did. | ||
| And I look at all the different positions that you have within that club, who you're appointing to those positions, why, what they're doing. | ||
| There's many layers of bureaucracy. | ||
| you know to train candidates are to bring people through that process to have an impact in elections to get people out on the streets canvassing leafleting turning out of places uh... all of these things that we we desperately need is a movement uh... those things have that their foundations in hey you know what maybe i'm gonna go to the gala this year meet a bunch of people hey you know what made a minute go over to the to the to the n y y i see clubhouse have a couple of i don't know what you do you have those uh... you have is margarita evenings | ||
| I've not yet been to one of those. | ||
| Mostly because you couldn't afford to have me at one of those, because then you'd be fresh out of margaritas. | ||
| But, you know, those are the things that get people involved, right? | ||
| Then comes, with all of that, hey, do you want to sit on our board and do this with us? | ||
| Hey, we need somebody going through all of this data and information around the city. | ||
| Help us figure out where we need to be targeting resources. | ||
| Tell us a little bit about that because, you know, you're a bunch of young people. | ||
| You are seen as, you know, fun-loving and gregarious and, you know, it's very sociable. | ||
| Tell people a little bit about just all of the work that actually goes on behind the scenes to keep a group like yours, not just up there, but the biggest in the country, growing and doing incredible things. | ||
| No, you said it best. | ||
| We're building an institution. | ||
| We're building a parallel structure here in the city to all the different institutions that are dominated by the left. | ||
| This is this goes more than just you know candidates or a pack or one cycle. | ||
| We want to build something that people feel an attachment to that they feel a sense of community and that they know has a legacy and then will last another hundred years. | ||
| That's how you build loyalty. | ||
| We're a volunteer run organization. | ||
| No one takes a paycheck and we're putting on events. | ||
| We're doing programming that many nonprofits either in DC or elsewhere. | ||
| Have staff with, you know, six-figure salaries putting on to run. | ||
| And you can't get to that point as an institution, as an organization, if you can't build a sense of camaraderie. | ||
| And I know I talk to a lot of people, and they like to be dismissive. | ||
| They say, oh, well, you know, you need to do more political, you need to do more canvassing, this, that, and the other. | ||
| It says you will not get to a point where you can turn up a hundred people on a Sunday to go canvas in the cold, you know, winter of Staten Island. | ||
| unless you can build a network, a family, and you can create a sense of attachment. | ||
| I feel like the party structures that exist at the national, state, and local level have lost that sense. | ||
| But the club has brought that back to the forefront, and we're building that community. | ||
| We're creating an environment where you can come, you can meet friends, you can meet romantic interests. | ||
| You can build lifelong friendships at these socials, at these events. | ||
| You can hear speakers such as yourself, such as Steve Bannon and many other great thinkers in the movement. | ||
| And then as part of this holistic approach to building this institution, then we can weaponize you. | ||
| Then we can get you out on the streets. | ||
| We can get you to rallies. | ||
| We can get you to canvas. | ||
| We can get you to doorknock. | ||
| We can get you to join county committee to take over the party infrastructure. | ||
| That's how it's done, and I feel like a lot of organizations and a lot of people, they want this quick sort of result. | ||
| They want to just give us a million here, give us a hundred thousand there, fund a candidate, fund a PAC, and then a cycle later they don't exist anymore. | ||
| We intend to be an institution with a legacy. | ||
| We intend to continue to build history as the organization has throughout its longevity, and I think it lends itself to a bureaucracy. | ||
| It lends itself to many positions. | ||
| To a board, to committees, to a structure. | ||
| People are always impressed when they see the scale of things we do because they hear young Republican, they hear Republican Club, and they think it's probably some dinky outfit with no real sophistication to it. | ||
| But we're run, you know, like a corporation. | ||
| We're run like an army. | ||
| It's very, you know, has a hierarchy, and we get things done, and we're efficient, and we're doing a million things while working our regular jobs, and I think it's a model that should be imported across the country for our benefit as a movement and as a party. | ||
| You know, actually, you and I need to do a far longer podcast about this, because there's so much to talk about here. | ||
| Let me ask you, on that basis of what you just said, exporting the playbook that you've run there, around the country, you know, it was eight years, ten years ago, that I helped in the United Kingdom take over a fusty old think tank called the Bo Group, which was just rotting on the shelf, like you said, the ashes. | ||
| And is the oldest conservative think tank in the world, in fact. | ||
| And we pulled it out of the ashes and made it into a functioning institution that is now respected again in the United Kingdom and the world over. | ||
| And there's so much to be said of those things. | ||
| I hope people who are watching this, listening to this, if you know of anything like that in your milieu, that you will take advantage of that this year. | ||
| Gavin, let me ask you this. | ||
| For the clubs, the people out there who are listening to this going, I want to do what Gavin's doing, I want to build things like the NYYRC is, do you have, you know, a literal playbook? | ||
| If somebody came to you and said, hey, you got 20 pages I can read on what you've done and how you've done it. | ||
| We need to codify it. | ||
| I'd be happy to talk to whoever. | ||
| We continue to expand our area of operation. | ||
| I mean, at one point the club was strictly to Manhattan, then the five boroughs. | ||
| Now we cover the entire metro area, so the states of New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and even parts of PA. | ||
| So we are expanding our own area of operations, but as far as other clubs across the country, I would say put your heart and soul into it and professionalize this. | ||
| Treat this like more than just a single Hey! | ||
| You know one track mind type of outfit. This is more than that. You have a social component You have a political component. You have an intellectual component It needs to be multifaceted because you're gonna you're gonna attract people who just want to come and drink You're gonna attract people who just want to come and listen. Hey, is that swipe at me? | ||
| Well, you do I'll take you up on the place to find romantic interest offer as well there. | ||
| Gavin Wax, I know you're over at Getter as well. | ||
| We've got about 30 seconds left. | ||
| How's Getter going? | ||
| What do you say to people about that? | ||
| Get on Getter. | ||
| It's better on Getter. | ||
| We're blowing up. | ||
| We're pushing 3 million users. | ||
| We have a lot of new updates coming to the platform, new tech, new features. | ||
| We're the fastest growing social media network in history. | ||
| You're not going to be banned. | ||
| You're not going to be censored. | ||
| You're not going to be silenced. | ||
| You're going to find a platform where you can grow. | ||
| And even if you're not banned on Twitter yet, at least hedge your bets with Getter and build a following like no other. | ||
| So come on Getter. | ||
| We'd be happy to have you. | ||
| I got so many more questions for you, but we're out of time right now. | ||
| We're gonna do a whole hour together or something. | ||
| Gavin Waxer, where do people find you? | ||
| How can they follow you? | ||
| Thank you, Raheem. | ||
| You guys can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, everything else, at Gavin Wax, G-A-V-I-N-W-A-X. | ||
| And if you're interested in the club, supporting the club, or even joining the club, check us out, nyyrc.com. | ||
| We'll make sure that that's linked up and everywhere in the description of this show as well. | ||
| Gavin Wax there over at Getter HQ and the president of the New York Young Republicans Club will be back. | ||
| Congressman Matt Gaetz joins us next. | ||
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God bless the Master of His house, the mistress of our soul, and all the little children that round the table go. | |
| For it is Christmas time, and we travel far and near. | ||
| May God bless you and send you a happy new year. | ||
| Welcome back to this War Room Boxing Day special. | ||
| The seventh year I think Steve and I have conspired to give him some time off. | ||
| So welcome back and if it's cold where you are, if you're chilly, if it's snowing, if it's frosty, What better way to warm up than with the OG Firebrand himself. | ||
| Congressman Matt Gaetz joins us for this Boxing Day special. | ||
| Congressman, thank you, and first question to you. | ||
| Boxing Day traditions? | ||
| I have no idea what you mean by that. | ||
| Is this some British thing? | ||
| Is this like going to the loo? | ||
| It is a very British thing. | ||
| Boxing Day is typically the day after, well it is always the day after Christmas Day and it's named after when wealthier families would box up gifts and give them to poorer families. | ||
| So Steve and I, along those lines, that sort of Victorian Christmas mindset, we've always sought to honour Boxing Day and it's also the Feast of St Stephen as well. | ||
| It's just it's always been a thing for so I know Steve is a big Anglophile in that sense So we've always done it and we've always sought to use The Boxing Day in the period in between Christmas and New Year to kind of reflect on the year Gone by and you know Steve has obviously had a very interesting year. | ||
| You've had a very interesting year as well. | ||
| Any thoughts? | ||
| I had a great year. | ||
| I got married this year. | ||
| You did? | ||
| I was there. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| You were there. | ||
| Now what America doesn't know is that you weren't expressly invited to my elopement. | ||
| We had invited Natalie Winters and she listed you as her plus one and then she didn't come and you did anyway. | ||
| But we were so glad to have you, because then you were there to tell the world. | ||
| Just like Judge Jeanine shared my engagement with the world, Raheem Kassam shared my nuptials with the world. | ||
| So you're, I guess, in great company there. | ||
| You know, it's been a year, I think, of continued transition for the Republican Party. | ||
| It's been a year of soul-searching, of defining the type of work that is important to us, that's important to our constituents. | ||
| And we're battling issues that really weren't part of the issue matrix in prior years. | ||
| I mean usually you assume Republicans are going to be talking about pro-life, pro-gun, less taxes, less regulation. | ||
| And in this last year, we really had to deal with this rising bureaucratic state. | ||
| We have to deal with this phenomenon of transhumanism in a totally different way. | ||
| And even the way we talk about shaping the experience between our constituents and the digital world. | ||
| It continues to evolve. | ||
| So a lot of stuff we've still got to do, particularly on immigration and trade, that I think align with the Donald Trump reset of American politics in many ways. | ||
| Our friend Steve Bannon, an architect of that reset. | ||
| But now we have to look at the battle we're in today for our constituents. | ||
| Elections are about new promises. | ||
| We're going into an election year, and we have to think about how that continues to shape the board. | ||
| It's certainly going to be an interesting election year. | ||
| You do have sort of naysayers still within the party. | ||
| The Liz Cheney's and the Adam whatever is Kinzinger's of the world who are constantly trying to sort of drive that rage. | ||
| Are they still in the party? | ||
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I don't even know at this point. | |
| I mean, it's the odd circumstance where Liz Cheney is not a Republican recognized as such in Wyoming, her fake home, but is a Republican managing Republican time on the floor at her real home in Washington, D.C. | ||
| Are these not strange times in which we live? | ||
| Extraordinary. | ||
| I mean, extraordinary. | ||
| But even with all of that going on, you've got these Damoclean swords of January the 6th and all of these other things that the establishment tries to hold over the necks of Republicans. | ||
| And even against all of that backdrop, what we're seeing going into the... I mean, I'm not going to jinx anything, but we're seeing going into the new year Uh, is a thirst for conservative values and ideas amongst the public. | ||
| Do you think it's an express embrace of those ideas? | ||
| Or do you think that's a pure rejection of Biden regime-ism? | ||
| Well, there is a consequence of one-party government. | ||
| There's no one to blame when things really turn south. | ||
| And for our country right now, people have economic insecurity. | ||
| They have insecurity as a result of the rapidly rising rates of crime in Democrat-run cities. | ||
| They see a border that is just a turnstile each and every day. | ||
| And there's no one left for the Democrats to accuse of stopping them from being able to address people's problems. | ||
| They're just incapable of doing so. | ||
| You've got an adult president. | ||
| You've got a vice president who, you know, frankly, you know, her public remarks sound more like a fails reel from a beauty pageant than like the actual representations of a world leader. | ||
| And in Congress, no real inspiring figures. | ||
| for the Democrats, and so their people feel abandoned. | ||
| And I think that right now it's choose your fighter time, and you got a pretty substantial part of the country who feels like a pretty substantial part of, other part of the country is out to get them. | ||
| And they want to see leaders who will protect them and battle for them. | ||
| And I think we need more of that in the Republican Party. | ||
| You know, this theory that like we're going to take control and then do some legislation that Joe Biden will veto and that'll be this great delivery system of our values. | ||
| That was tried under Paul Ryan. | ||
| And people won't trust us anymore. | ||
| Instead, what they have to see is us engage in rigorous oversight. | ||
| When we look at what I think of as explicitly partisan persecution of people like yourself, the way the rules are bent to allow the Democrats to run commissions like the January 6th Commission, | ||
| to subpoena people for for you know for nothing quite frankly I mean let's be very very clear about this um I sat in this room almost every day um with Steve Bannon on the run-up to to you know the election and afterwards and the you know the idea that there was some great plot going on some great scheme going on To overthrow the Republic is one of the most risible things I've ever heard in my life, and yet they managed to kind of use all the... You guys can barely scheme to get the live feed straight when you guys have somebody on Skype. | ||
| I mean, in all fairness, the notion that you and Steve Bannon were orchestrating an insurrection that was threatening to the most powerful government on Earth is so laughable. | ||
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There are times I can't find my house keys. | |
| No, how many times have I been waiting for your commentary while Steve's like, where's Rahim? | ||
| We have technical difficulties. | ||
| And then he starts yelling at Vish or Cameron or some other producers. | ||
| So, you know, I'm glad we gave him the day off. | ||
| I didn't even know you guys gave him the day off. | ||
| I just assumed you had him bound and gagged in the corner because you wanted to sit in the big chair. | ||
| But, you know, the argument that establishment Republicans are making, and you would be great to respond to it. | ||
| Behind closed doors in the strategy sessions is, look, we've got the wind at our backs. | ||
| The American people kind of see the January 6th thing as a partisan distraction. | ||
| They're worried about kitchen table economics. | ||
| Let's just sail these winds at our back into the majority and let's not do anything to give the Democrats a basis to criticize us. | ||
| Rahim, your reaction to that advice that we get on an almost daily basis from the Republican leadership? | ||
| Honestly, my reaction is to be more like Matt Gaetz, honestly, without this sounding too much like a love-in. | ||
| It is Boxing Day. | ||
| the it is not only when you that is boxing day when you uh... you know when you're in battle did not with with with lou lurid and and heinous allegations you didn't go into hiding you went and started to give public speeches and rallies and talk to people and get in the faces of the people who were trying to extort you and and use things against you that simply were not true | ||
| And it's the same thing, you know, we can all rest on our laurels at any given space or time. | ||
| We can always be backed into a corner at any given space or time. | ||
| Or, we can come out swinging, and swinging, and swinging, and it was that mentality, you, and MTG, and Gosar, and so many of the other, you know, fire breathers there, Trump, Steve, who actually, I think, can take the responsibility for the Republicans being in this polling situation that you are in right now, to lay back now at this point and say, don't rock the boat, we just need to get to November, that would be, I think, I think a cardinal sin. | ||
| Your thoughts? | ||
| Well, if we don't rock the boat to win in November, then after we win, we won't be willing to rock the boat to deliver for our people. | ||
| Look, the times we're in right now, you've got folks being driven out of their jobs, out of the military. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You see families just getting crushed by inflation and unable to get ahead, make that investment in a new business venture or something to make a greater contribution to our country. | ||
| And so these people are not to be dealt with with kit gloves. | ||
| Sometimes you got to ball up the fist and get in there and engage in the tough oversight work and in the tough legislative work that is necessary. | ||
| And so, you know, I am trying to encourage my colleagues | ||
| To think about the questions we have to answer, the principal questions we discuss on War Room frequently, the origins of coronavirus, the accountability that has to come to the Chinese Communist Party, the November election fraud that was not found because we weren't looking for it as it was occurring, and trying to reconstruct this fraud after the fact and piece it together, very difficult, almost impossible to obtain any remedy. | ||
| And also January 6th, You know, we have questions we have to answer regarding our own government's involvement in increasing the criminal acuity and increasing the amount of violence that occurred on that day. | ||
| And if we're unable to get the answers to those questions, then the people aren't going to trust us with the power that is necessary to try to reignite the American productivity and success that we saw during the Trump era. | ||
| Congressman, always a pleasure. | ||
| Your podcast is absolutely must, must listen stuff. | ||
| Where can people find it? | ||
| Firebrand is my podcast. | ||
| A lot of folks enjoy it on Rumble. | ||
| You can get it on any of your listening platforms. | ||
| And it goes great with the National Pulse. | ||
| I got to hear all of the Raheem self-cure different medical analyses following your coronavirus bout. | ||
| So everyone should know how to get their smell and taste back if they listen to National Pulse. | ||
| Thank you very much, Congressman Gates. | ||
| Everybody should know how to get their fight back if you listen to Firebrand. | ||
| Make sure you do so. | ||
| Congressman Gates, thank you. | ||
| Stick around, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| from Citizen Free Press, one of my favorite websites, will be joining us next. | ||
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So, let's get started. | |
| Welcome back to this Boxing Day War Room special. | ||
| I appreciate Boxing Day is the 26th. | ||
| I know we're coming at you on the 27th today, but we're grateful for your time and I'm grateful for all of you out there who are subscribed. | ||
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| Now, there's nobody, I think, who knows better than Kane of Citizen Free Press about fiery programming. | ||
| And that's because those headlines, that stack over at citizenfreepress.com, it gets spicy up there. | ||
| And we love it that way. | ||
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| So, it's my great pleasure and honor to bring back to the show, and really to bring back into my life, because we haven't spoken in quite a while, Cain of CitizenFreePress.com. | ||
| Cain, thanks for joining us. | ||
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Yeah, we haven't spoken since the greatest National Pulse podcast in history. | |
| That's right, which basically became a Citizen Free Press podcast, and you flipped the tables on me and interviewed me. | ||
| I had great fun doing it, but I'm going to flip the tables on you back now today, because we're talking about, we talked about Boxing Day in the first hour, what Boxing Day means, where it comes from, what it means to me, why Steve and I keep this tradition up, And I want to throw it back at you here, Cain. | ||
| Do you have any Boxing Day traditions? | ||
| What do these sort of days between Christmas and New Year mean in the Cain household? | ||
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Well, you know, I really am the wrong person to ask this, Raheem, because you know the boring distillation of my life. | |
| The last five Boxing Days, including today, I've sat in the same chair and grinded out headlines for The Stack on Citizen Free Press. | ||
| All day long. | ||
| So, any traditions that I used to get involved in, which were mostly food, shopping, celebration, fun with friends, drinking. | ||
| You know, this time of the year is the time when people come back, so you get to see old friends. | ||
| It's really a rekindling of family and love. | ||
| And unfortunately, I don't get to participate in much of that anymore because I'm 18 hours a day in front of a screen. | ||
| Typing out headlines for Citizen Free Press Nation. | ||
| And I'm not complaining. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Well, I mean, that is a tradition now, I suppose. | ||
| Then that is your very own tradition, and it's, I think, even more laudable in some respects that we choose, and I'm very much the same as you, by the way, that we choose to maybe pull ourselves away from the revelry to service a greater cause. | ||
| And I think people should pay attention to people like you that do that, because it speaks very highly to your And I think that's what this time of year is all about. | ||
| I mean, you know, you take the religious elements as one thing in and of themselves, but those are supposed to give you the impetus to go out and do other things with that spirit. | ||
| And I think that is what you're doing. | ||
| So, you know, if I were wearing a hat, I would doff it to you, sir. | ||
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I appreciate that. | |
| And I doff my virtual hat back at you because you and Steve have been part of this. | ||
| The meta hat. | ||
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The meta hat. | |
| Yeah, you know, it's I didn't really know what I was getting into when I started the site. | ||
| So I didn't realize that Christmas Day and Thanksgiving Day and July 4th and all holidays would essentially be given up for providing headlines. | ||
| But it's, you know, it's what you do if you run, you know, Citizen Free Press is essentially a wire service of, you know, of what I find interesting. | ||
| And so once you start that process, you can't really stop. | ||
| And so I appreciate when people like you and others tell me that I'm sacrificing for the greater good. | ||
| But you know, when you're in it every day, when you're actually in the chair with the screens, a lot of it is about dopamine, a lot of it is about, you know, getting information out there and feeling compelled to You know, to keep pushing it. | ||
| And also, you know, I work for my own survival because CFP Nation would kill me if I stopped posting headlines. | ||
| So I really don't have any other choice. | ||
| Well, believe me, I feel that level of pressure as well. | ||
| I empathise greatly with you. | ||
| Cain, I'd like to take these shows to reflect a little bit on the year, but also look a little bit forward as well. | ||
| There's obviously a very big year, a very big election year coming up. | ||
| We'll get to that in a minute, maybe in the next segment. | ||
| I want to take some time to think about the last year with you because you again have experienced just massive growth on the site, but also I think as every year goes by and we watch and we feel and we learn and we are shocked and stunned by a lot of the behaviors of the people around us, whether it's the Fauci types or the politicians up here on Capitol Hill, and you kind of try and internalize these things. | ||
| I would say not too much, but we all do it, right? | ||
| We all do it way too much. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| So moments stick with us, and stories stick with us, and altercations stick with us. | ||
| I mean, I can't tell you just how much to my deathbed I will love having put, having had the ability to put Alan Duke from Leeds Stories, this fake Facebook fact-checker on the spot from this very studio with Natalie Winters over the past year. | ||
| And I want to ask you, are there moments that come to mind, flashpoints, headlines, things that come to mind where you think, wow, you know, 2021 was kind of lit like that? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, before I get into that, I remember your, and I posted them on CFP, those interviews with Alan Duke. | ||
| Those were fantastic. | ||
| And I actually give him credit for showing up and, and, and, you know, being on your show and willing to take the criticism. | ||
| And you were classic, like you get, there was a, No punches pulled from you. | ||
| I remember both of those interviews and they were excellent. | ||
| This year, it's been, the whole thing, the last 12 months have been a whirlwind as you know, you've been a part of it. | ||
| And it's still, I know you said we'd get to it in the next segment, but you know, you called it three months before November of 2020. | ||
| You talked about how, how the election steal was getting started, how they were doing it in 36 different states and Mark Goliath and And, and Zuckerberg. | ||
| And so these last 12 months of, of sort of having that fear of, of, of whether the election would be stolen, stolen from us legally, right? | ||
| I'm not talking about Dominion. | ||
| I'm not talking about that stuff. | ||
| I'm talking about changing the laws that allow them to flood in absentee ballots that weren't, that weren't checked. | ||
| So, so that's really been the big thing of the last year is still dealing with the steel. | ||
| You have such a split, a fissure in the, In the MAGA community of those, you know, there are some who are so disappointed and so distraught by it that they still don't want to vote. | ||
| And, you know, that always disturbs the heck out of me. | ||
| That's why the other day, probably a week ago, I posted the National Pulse headline at the top of the stack, which was, I believe you had an editorial from Steve Cortez talking about how the group most motivated to vote in 2022 Are the people who feel that the election was stolen. | ||
| So that was really heartening for me. | ||
| I thought that was a fantastic, a fantastic story from from Cortez. | ||
| And so to sort of wrap up my answer, it's just been a whirlwind year. | ||
| I haven't had a day off just like you haven't had a day off. | ||
| We've been struggling to sort of have our lives while covering so much so much of, of this, you know, new insanity, Marxist insanity from from the Biden | ||
| Group, as well as trying to cover what happened, what Matt Gaetz was just talking about 10 minutes ago, you know, uncovering what really happened, dissecting it, finally having an autopsy and figuring out how all the myriad of ways that that that the election was stolen from us last year, as at the same time, we stay motivated to vote in 2022. | ||
| I mean, that's really the big deal for me. | ||
| And I know I've been talking long. | ||
| I'll slip this in. | ||
| Between November and January, when the special election was held in Georgia, and I texted people about this, I knew we were going to lose both of those seats, even both of those Senate seats. | ||
| And the reason I knew it was because of the consternation and the anger within CFP Nation. | ||
| People were posting constantly about, why vote anymore? | ||
| You know, everything's rigged. | ||
| And so, so it's been a pretty emotional year. | ||
| I'll say. | ||
| I will certainly agree with you on that one. | ||
| No, I think that's absolutely right. | ||
| You know, I could give people a little bit of insight into how I want to speak for you or speak for me, but it's one of those things where you can go all day, right? | ||
| I can be editing copy, I could be writing copy, I could be doing some fact checks, I could be doing... | ||
| You know, because I do all the administrative work over at The National Pulse as well. | ||
| We have a few people that help us now, but especially over the most of this last year, I've been doing it all myself. | ||
| You know, and that can be anything from paperwork to mailing out things for our members, being in our Discord chat channel where all of our members hang out, making sure that everybody feels welcome and, you know, keeping the peace in there, because sometimes it can get a bit rough and raw. | ||
| There are all these different things, right? | ||
| Tweaking the font size and the color of the website. | ||
| You know, I rebuilt the website this year. | ||
| So, every day, you could be doing any... Thank you. | ||
| You could be doing any one of those things. | ||
| And then, of course, you know me. | ||
| In the evenings, I like to work my sources. | ||
| Get around to Morton's or something similar. | ||
| Have a couple of, you know, Mr. Walker's Amber Restoratives. | ||
| that would be Johnny Black to Christopher Hitchens fans. | ||
| And then of course you get home late, you go to bed maybe one o'clock, two o'clock in the morning, you wake up in the morning, you think, okay, we've got to do this all again the next day. | ||
| And when you wake up that next morning, there is this moment where you just sort of think, why, why, why would I be subjecting myself to the Don Lamonds and the Anderson Coopers and combating these narratives over and over again? | ||
| Then you remember why, right? | ||
| Then you remember because there are hundreds of millions of people all across the Western world and beyond, by the way, the Lao Bajing in China and the good people of Hong Kong and Taiwan and all across the world who actually have come to rely on people like us, Cain, to be their filters against corporate news, by which I mean fake news, right? | ||
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Bye. | |
| Right. | ||
| And we didn't know we were signing up for it, but now we're soldiers. | ||
| You know, I'll do a few thoughts. | ||
| One fantastic, you mentioned your website redesign. | ||
| I noticed it the day it happened. | ||
| It really looks good, and I haven't mentioned that to you, so I wanted to say that. | ||
| I also noticed at the bottom, you mentioned Hitchens. | ||
| About four or five days ago, I put a story at the top of the stack from you, from National Pulse, essentially thanking Hitchens. | ||
| And it's funny, you know, I'd never spoken about him, but he's somebody who I always, always admired, and always liked, and just enjoyed, you know, a trip in his mind, anytime he was on anywhere from From C-SPAN to... I think C-SPAN was where I first saw him. | ||
| And actually, you know, he has a brother. | ||
| I'm sure you're... Obviously you're a Brit, so you know this. | ||
| He has a brother. | ||
| Totally straight legs. | ||
| So I think he's still alive. | ||
| And I remember seeing... Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Peter and I go way back. | ||
| We've talked often. | ||
| Cain, just hold that thought. | ||
| We'll come back with that thought in just a second. | ||
| We've got to go to a quick break in just a moment. | ||
| I want to hold you there. | ||
| And we'll talk a little bit about that. | ||
| It was the 10th year anniversary of Christopher Hitchens' death this year. | ||
| Why it was so important, I think, should be apparent to anybody who manages to watch any of his debates on YouTube or Rumble or wherever they're... | ||
| Uh, hosted nowadays. | ||
| We'll take a quick break. | ||
| Um, you know, Cain always gets me worked up. | ||
| Reminds me of all these other things that I love to talk about, too. | ||
| Um, I dread to think what would happen if Cain and I ever, ever sat down for a lunch together. | ||
| Probably go for three or four days straight. | ||
| Cain, CitizenFreePress.com. | ||
| Make sure it's in your favorites, in your bookmarks. | ||
| I check it every single morning, without fail, and all through the day. | ||
| Boxing Day War Room Special returns in just a second. | ||
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Let the master of this house, the mistress also, and all the little children around the table go. | |
| For it is Christmas time and we travel far and near. | ||
| May God bless you and send you a happy new year. | ||
| Good King Wenceslas looked out on the feast of Stephen, When the snow lay round about, deep and crisp and even, Brightly shone the moon that night, though the frost was cruel. | ||
| When the poor man came inside, bearing bitter fumes. | ||
| Welcome back to our Boxing Day special here in the War Room. | ||
| You will get your regularly scheduled programming back in the coming days, but in the meantime, you're stuck with me and Kane from Citizen Free Press for about the next 7 minutes or so. | ||
| We appreciate you joining us and of course, if you'll take a moment to support the sponsors of the War Room, Mike Lindell, MyPillow.com and the rest will be greatly appreciative towards you. | ||
| Kane, we were talking about Hitch, the great man and his mind and the way, you know, I don't necessarily agree with him on everything and Peter Hitchens as well. | ||
| Put it this way, Christopher Hitchens, Hitch as he's known, was far too rigid and turgid and immovable on one subject alone and that was the matter of God and his refusal to believe in one. | ||
| and that doesn't necessarily sit well with me. | ||
| The other Hitchens, Peter Hitchens, is far too turgid and rigid and immovable on another subject and that is drugs, and that also doesn't sit well with me. | ||
| So they've both got their kind of immovabilities within them but they're both brilliant minds and brilliant men. | ||
| I wanted to know where you were taking that. | ||
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Yeah, well, I was taking it to the brilliant minds and brilliant men. | |
| You know, I'm happy to hear, I'm happy to listen to an atheist, especially with the mind of Hitch. | ||
| Um, I... | ||
| I'm happy when those guys show, show us inside, inside their skulls and how they think. | ||
| It's sort of why I like, occasionally like Matt Taibbi and Brent Greenwald and other sort of classic liberals. | ||
| You know, I appreciate honest thinkers and, you know, Hitchens, one of the, one of the first, Things that I ever caught with him was where he has the video of him being waterboarded. | ||
| It was during sort of that controversy during the Iraq war time. | ||
| So he decided to film it. | ||
| So it's out there on YouTube of Hitch undergoing waterboarding. | ||
| And that's pretty interesting. | ||
| Before I get too far into that though, when I was talking about National Pulse and your new website, I wanted to add this. | ||
| At the bottom of that Hitch piece, I noticed that you mentioned that this year National Pulse had passed. | ||
| several very well-known conservative websites and I wanted to give you a shot for that. | ||
| I noticed you had the free beacon and the spectator and I want people to really understand what that is. | ||
| This is Rahim, as he said before in the previous segment, he's moderating the chat and discord and he's changing the fonts. | ||
| These are all the things people don't really realize but when you run a website, there's so much behind the scenes stuff. | ||
| I know how hands on you are. | ||
| Yeah, I know how hands on you are. | ||
| It's part of why your site is successful. | ||
| But I just want to say that's a big deal. | ||
| You know, those sites have been around a long time. | ||
| You've only been running National Pulse for a little bit over a year, and it's very impressive what you've done. | ||
| So another thought, you know, you talked about lunch in D.C. | ||
| three to four hours. | ||
| Dude, when I come to D.C., when I finally get a vacation after 1,700 straight days of doing this, we're going to Morton's. | ||
| I'm co-hosting War Room with you and Bannon for five straight days. | ||
| I don't care what the heck he says. | ||
| I get a seat. | ||
| We're taking over DC. | ||
| You have no idea. | ||
| The reason I'm so animated about it is these are my escapes, right? | ||
| When you're stuck in front of a monitor, what do you dream about? | ||
| You dream about what you'll do when you finally get some time off and being able to come to, you know, having a little bit of a victory lap for Citizen Free Press and the success that we've had and being able to come to DC And, you know, have Spencer run the site and finally being able to relax. | ||
| I look forward to it. | ||
| I know I've probably talked about it before. | ||
| Who knows when it'll happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let me... We've got to do it. | ||
| We've got to do it soon. | ||
| I think it has to happen. | ||
| It's been a long time coming. | ||
| And, by the way, I agree with you. | ||
| I just want to pick up on a point you made a moment ago. | ||
| You know, I'm happy to listen to somebody like Christopher Hitchens just because the brilliance of the mind doesn't matter necessarily the position. | ||
| He's occupying on any one topic, and the same with Peter as well. | ||
| You know, I'm very happy to listen to teetotalers as well, even though I'm not one. | ||
| But I think these are the moments we forget, these are the moments we miss, and this is what those minds are all about. | ||
| It's the minds that can actually generate abstractions and listen to different things and internalize different arguments without getting Without shutting down, without getting too het up, without making enemies. | ||
| And I think somebody like you coming to DC would actually make more friends, even amongst the people that don't like what you put up on your site because you're such a gregarious and charming character. | ||
| And these are the people we're missing in our politics and our media today. | ||
| Instead we get the potato stelters and the creepy cuomos and all of this kind of stuff. | ||
| So look, with about two minutes left in mind here, Um, I wanted to ask you about 2022. | ||
| You know, the Republicans obviously are, uh, you know, they feel like they've got the wind to their sails for the midterms. | ||
| I actually don't think they do. | ||
| What I think it is, is it's people like Gates and Green and Bannon carrying that ship. | ||
| Rather than just allowing the kind of winds of change to sweep them along, I'm not sure that the McCarthys of the world necessarily understand that yet. | ||
| But I want to know your feelings about where we go next year. | ||
| Do you think the tyranny lifts? | ||
| Do you think we have done enough to shine a light on people like Fauci? | ||
| Do you think, you know, over 2022 we're going to see some backlash for Big Pharma, for these people of light? | ||
| We've got about 90 seconds here, Cain. | ||
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Yeah, there's a lot there. | |
| I'll talk really, really quickly. | ||
| Let's hope so. | ||
| Every week you gain a little bit more optimism that the light is shining and that people's impressions are changing about some of these characters such as Fauci. | ||
| And we've even seen in the polls that Fauci's numbers have fallen. | ||
| But I don't really, to be honest, I don't really have confidence because mainstream media is controlled by Democrats and they all see, you know, it's very few on the left do I see So as far as the scandemic goes, who knows? | ||
| You know, we're posting new stuff on Omicron and this stuff every day, and they want boosters. | ||
| In the UK, it's every three months now they'll allow it, and I know you've been covering that well. | ||
| But I'm super optimistic about 2022 in terms of the election, and I agree with you. | ||
| I don't think it's going to be a landslide by any means, or a bloodbath. | ||
| It's going to be incredibly close. | ||
| But obviously, if we have 60 to 80 percent of the independent voters voting Republican, that's going to help us. | ||
| But the one thing I want to push is, you know, get out there and vote. | ||
| Absolutely vote. | ||
| That's the only way we're going to turn this. | ||
| We've got to bounce, but I'm so grateful for your time today. | ||
| I'm so grateful for citizenfreepress.com. | ||
| I want to make sure that everybody goes to that site. | ||
| Bookmarks it. | ||
| It's going multiple times a day. | ||
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| Be part of Citizen Free Press Nation down there. | ||
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| Look back in the War Room again. | ||
| Regularly scheduled programming returns tomorrow. | ||
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