Dec. 27, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Good King Wenceslas the proud, on the feast of Stephen, When the snow lay round the house, deep and crisp and even, Brightly shone the moon that night, though the frost was cruel, When the poor man came inside, bearing winter fuel. | |
| Heal her, page and spell, my man, if thou must it tell, Well, welcome to a very special War Room Boxing Day special. | ||
| I understand that Boxing Day was, in fact, yesterday, but we're shifting it this year. | ||
| Boxing Day, the 27th of December, the Year of the Lord 2021, broadcasting live here. | ||
| I think it's seven. | ||
| Capitol Hill and I'm Raheem Kassam. I'm not Stephen K. Bannon, but don't fear. We have Stephen K. Bannon right here in studio with us. Steve, I'm so glad you're joining us for this opening part of the Boxing Day special because we've done this for now, how many years? I think it's seven or it must be the seventh because this is the first time we've had to do it at the day after Boxing Day. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| We've always had the 26th. | ||
| That's the Feast of St. | ||
| Stephen. | ||
| Raheem lets me have the day off. | ||
| We did the starting of Breitbart News Daily, right? | ||
| We started that. | ||
| You would come in and sub during the Christmas. | ||
| I always do the Boxing Day special, which is the 26th, because it's an English tradition. | ||
| And then we decided to keep it going at War Room and War Room Impeachment and War Room Pandemic. | ||
| And so now, this is the third year? | ||
| This is the third year? | ||
| Second year. | ||
| Second year for War Room Pandemic. | ||
| We did War Room Impeachment first. | ||
| War Room Impeachment. | ||
| Then we've done the first one for Pandemic. | ||
| So, let me ask... I think I got the math right. | ||
| Anyway, since St. | ||
| Stephen is my Saint's Day, you always give me the day off. | ||
| Why Boxing Day? | ||
| Why is it important in England? | ||
| Well, so Boxing Day for us is traditionally the day after Christmas Day. | ||
| Culturally, it's kind of a second Christmas Day. | ||
| It's a little more of a casual Christmas Day. | ||
| Obviously lots of leftovers, you're still with your families. | ||
| But this is also with your friends, too. | ||
| Christmas Day is a family deal. | ||
| Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, more family. | ||
| Boxing Day is a little more expansive. | ||
| Yeah, a little bit more. | ||
| And there's a little bit more in terms of outings. | ||
| Obviously, you had the traditional Boxing Day hunt. | ||
| It doesn't really take place so much anymore. | ||
| It's kind of a thing that we don't talk about so much. | ||
| People still... The country set would do a fox hunt? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Redcoats. | ||
| Out with the dogs. | ||
| In the morning. | ||
| Oh yeah, first thing in the morning, freezing cold. | ||
| Get out into the countryside. | ||
| The imagery of that, I mean you still see all these wonderful paintings of these Boxing Day hunts and everything. | ||
| I know there's a lot of animal rights activists out there who don't like that. | ||
| The hunts are still big for that set. | ||
| They are. | ||
| There's a big crackdown on it now. | ||
| They were kind of criminalized for doing this. | ||
| So it changed. | ||
| It's changed a lot. | ||
| But there is still that idea of going out as well on Boxing Day. | ||
| Stores will typically it's kind of like our Black Friday stores will kind of open up and have their big sales. | ||
| So people will descend on the stores. | ||
| But also, as I say, it's kind of a second Christmas Day. | ||
| You're allowed to kind of veg out in front of the television, watch some cheesy Christmas movies. | ||
| Love Actually and all those sorts of things. | ||
| Your favourite, right? | ||
| I've seen that film. | ||
| I hate watching that film all the time. | ||
| It's the film I hate most of all. | ||
| Any film I've ever made. | ||
| No, I hate that film. | ||
| I hate that. | ||
| I give you beat by beat by that movie. | ||
| I hate it so much. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's wonderful. | ||
| It's become a Christmas tradition. | ||
| It's massive. | ||
| It's like Die Hard in America, you know. | ||
| And people know all the lines, right? | ||
| Big time, big time. | ||
| And this is what you do, but historically... I want to tell you about Manish decline. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| But historically, Um, Boxing Day was the, the reason it's called Boxing, there's nothing to do with pugilism, um, it was where the wealthier families would take the goods that were being replaced by new presents that they had received, or things that they had received that they didn't want, or, and, or leftover foodstuffs and all that, box it all up and give it to the, the, the servants of the household. | ||
| This a Victorian, this a Victoria from the great Victorians, I love the Victorians. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This was a tradition they started. | ||
| It's like regifting before regifting was a thing. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| It's traditional regifting. | ||
| But I do think it's an interesting and important tradition, and I think it's one that we seek to try and keep going and resurrect, in fact. | ||
| Especially in a year like this year, where so many people have so much hardship going on. | ||
| For me, charity has meant more over this past year than it ever has done in my life before. | ||
| I've been much more cognizant of that role that I have to my community and to people who are more needy. | ||
| And I think Boxing Day should really, you know, we should really take that moment to do that. | ||
| I'm not saying box up your old stuff or re-gift your gifts. | ||
| I'm saying use it as a day, perhaps, for charity in some way, if you can. | ||
| Talk to me about the… talk about tradition. | ||
| The traditions… you've lived here now in the States, you've been on and off here for, I don't know, five, six, seven, eight years, versus… because you're a traditionalist, versus England. | ||
| Because I tell people, the Christmas cities, my favorite Christmas cities in descending order are Paris, number one, London, number two, New York City, number three. | ||
| That's very controversial. | ||
| Paris is the ultimate, not that they believe in any of the sacred, religious, but it's a beautiful, City of Lights is just so beautiful during Christmas. | ||
| London is a Dickens Christmas all the time. | ||
| But how are the traditions of the Victorians compared to the traditions here? | ||
| Well, I've never spent Christmas in Paris, so I can't necessarily weigh it. | ||
| I do know that they have this kind of, you know, laicite mindset where you keep religion out of the public square and public life, and so I've never really thought, ooh, you know, maybe I'll go over to Paris and see some, you know, some fairy lights and not a lot of crosses. | ||
| London really does have that still. | ||
| Now, it does unfortunately have some traditions that we should probably get rid of, like this ghastly Norwegian Christmas tree that they send every year. | ||
| This was a thank you for the war effort, and they send it every year. | ||
| But they send the most tatty, disgusting tree, and we put it up in Trafalgar Square every year, and it's just appalling. | ||
| It used to be wonderful. | ||
| I think post-Brexit, they're trying to make some sort of statement. | ||
| Are you serious? | ||
| Yeah, I'm deadly serious. | ||
| When I was there in the 90s, it was stunning. | ||
| Beautiful, beautiful, yeah. | ||
| Is it really? | ||
| Make a political statement. | ||
| It's a joke now. | ||
| It's seen as a joke now. | ||
| They have this horrible, hollowed out, very sparse Christmas tree. | ||
| There's no way the place does Christmas right. | ||
| Yeah, I know, and I guess they must send us the worst tree that they have on offer. | ||
| We still put it up, we're still good like that in terms of our traditions, but I think... Yeah, you and Nigel and the fishing rights, it came back to bite you. | ||
| Yeah, well, I'll take our fishing waters over a Christmas tree, I'll tell you that much. | ||
| Um, but, but I've spent, I've had the pleasure of spending some, uh, Christmases or times around Christmas in New York as well. | ||
| Very different, very different. | ||
| I, I've seen the Rockettes, you know, done all of that, but it's, it's, it's, that's more commercial. | ||
| It's incredibly commercial. | ||
| It's incredibly, hey, uh, you know, come in here, buy this in the name of Jesus Christ. | ||
| You're thinking, hold on a second. | ||
| You know, this isn't quite what I had imagined. | ||
| So it has its charms. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| I understand. Even Rock Center, which I think Rockefeller Center is the center of the Christmas because you've got the windows of Macy's right across the street, not Macy's, you've got the windows of Saks Fifth Avenue. Saks, yeah, and you've got Cartier, and they do all this. All Fifth Avenue, and then of course you've got Herald Square, but it is quite commercial. | ||
| That's different. How and why is that different than London? | ||
| Has Christopher Wren's architecture and all that really come up in the Christmas season? | ||
| Yeah, they make a very good effort in London to, despite the changing nature of London, they still make a very good effort to stress the traditional elements of the city. | ||
| You know, the streets like Harnaby Street and the Cobblestone Streets and the Regent Street light display, all of these places from the All Souls Church right down to Trafalgar Square, you have these beautiful displays of Until probably a few years ago when Disney got their hands on it. | ||
| Now, I know that we're actually trying to wrestle it back, and there's been this kind of commercialization here and there, but there's still this element of, you know, I like to think of it as like a somberness around that as well, because what we're remembering each Christmas is not, hey, I've got presents to buy and presents to receive. | ||
| You know, it's the idea, this somber idea of welcoming, you know, the The son of God that gave his life to save humanity into the world. | ||
| And I think as much as, of course, because I know Americans in churches as well like to sort of wildly celebrate that, right? | ||
| Loudly celebrate that. | ||
| You do a lot more sort of clapping and singing in your churches than we do. | ||
| But also that is a time for, you know, reflecting very somberly on what Jesus Christ went through over the course of his life. | ||
| So that we could be free of sin, you know? | ||
| Is that your aspiration? | ||
| That doesn't take place. | ||
| I mean, London is probably the most secular. | ||
| It's more secular than here. | ||
| I mean, the actual church participation. | ||
| Oh, the church, yeah. | ||
| I mean, the churches are beautiful. | ||
| I mean, when you sit there with the Christopher Wren architecture post the Great Fire and the churches that Wren built, it's just amazing. | ||
| I want to talk about The Christmas that we imagine, the traditional Christmas that has been put in our minds, is a Victorian invention, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The Victorians always had this concept that if you did something three times, it was a tradition, right? | ||
| I mean, you could start something in 1871, by 1875 it would be like from time immemorial. | ||
| Which, by the way, is how you live your life as well. | ||
| Every time we do something, the third time we do it, it's like, we always do this, this is what we do. | ||
| It's Victorian at heart. | ||
| Tell us about the Victorians, because I think that they, when you go to London, you're in Dickens, you feel like you're in Dickens Christmas, and that's, it's so powerful. | ||
| I recommend everybody, if you get a chance, not just to get to New York City for Christmas, if you ever get a chance to go to London or Paris, you're going to see a Christmas season that is just sit there and go, wow, this is what Christmas is all about. | ||
| And it's been very eye-opening for me spending Christmases in America, in different places in America over the last five or six years. | ||
| You know, I spent one Christmas out in California. | ||
| Just bizarre. | ||
| I couldn't believe it. | ||
| I live in California for years. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| Now, there are some places that do it real nice. | ||
| Riverside does a lovely light display in downtown and all that, but it's not quite the same. | ||
| From London to Riverside. | ||
| From the Inland Empire. | ||
| And well, look, the Victorians had obviously that stress on tradition, but it was also this shift in society from the suffering to the living, right? | ||
| From the workhouses to actually what brought a lot of England out of extreme poverty over that period of time and obviously further into the 20th century. | ||
| For me, I think the reason we hold on to that era so much is because so much changed so rapidly in that time for so many people in England. | ||
| People's lives and their families and their futures all changed drastically. | ||
| You're saying you go from an agriculture, you get the invention of the steam engine in the early 19th century, then the massive, Britain led the industrial revolution, there was the first high-tech, all that, and that's Dickens, is that, and people being displaced from the countryside want to keep those traditions up. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| And if you go if you go if you take that further into the 20th century, then you start to see why that those wars that were fought and so bloody were why those cultures were so different. | ||
| This wasn't just about like regimentedness and land and blood. | ||
| This was about culture and tradition and family and union. | ||
| I hate to politicize things and talk about tradition, but didn't Boris Johnson's government get into a problem about not saying Christmas? | ||
| They had an issue here at the very beginning of the holiday season. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| Yeah, look, like you say... Was it overblown? | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| Like you say, the secularization actually has come to matter to people an awful lot. | ||
| We don't want to really be France. | ||
| We like the ability to have crosses up in public display. | ||
| We like to put angels on the top of our trees and, you know, not pineapples or whatever they do in France now. | ||
| And, uh, yeah, not just the, you know, the, the Holland, which I noticed Muriel Bowser... You always get their shots into the frame. | ||
| It's got that Nelson Napoleon problem, right? | ||
| Always don't trust them. | ||
| But you know, we've got, um... | ||
| Muriel Bowser in DC pushing the holiday party, holiday party, holiday party, and we've always rejected that. | ||
| For us, it's always been Christmas parties. | ||
| Of course, when there are other things that happen over that period of time, Hanukkahs, everyone's welcome. | ||
| But let's not push out Christianity, right, to make everybody else feel more welcome. | ||
| Let's include all of them. | ||
| And so Christmas party is a big deal. | ||
| Unfortunately, Boris Johnson's government had a few too many Christmas parties over the lockdown period last year and have got into a resounding amount of trouble as a result of that. | ||
| It's going to be a very tough time for Boris over the course of the next year. | ||
| Was it a grim Christmas in London, the run up to it? | ||
| Was it a grim Christmas this year because of the Omicron? | ||
| It was especially grim because right between October, November, and early December, all of the politicians were saying, we're not going to shut the country down, you don't have to give up your Christmases, and then right before Christmas they all came out and said, Omicron's too worrisome, tame down your Christmases. | ||
| I talked to a couple of guys, I know hedge fund guys, that had been between New York and London all the time, and they were telling me about How big, wide open London was in the middle of December and literally within 48 hours, restaurants empty, everything's empty. | ||
| Yeah, vaccine passports and all the like. | ||
| We have a tradition, the Boxing Day tradition with Raheem Kassam. | ||
| Thank you for joining us for this opening segment. | ||
| Hope you have had a very nice holiday period. | ||
| I'm going to go have a great St. | ||
| Stephen's Day. | ||
| And we've got Natalie Winters joining us up next. | ||
| stated. | ||
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And we travel far and near. May God bless you and send you a happy new year. God bless the master of this house, the mistress of our soul, and all the little children that come to see you. | |
| May God bless you and send you a happy new year. God bless the master of this house, the mistress of our soul, and all the little children that come to see you. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| I love the music. | ||
| Welcome back to the Boxing Day special of The War Room. | ||
| I'm Raheem Kassam. | ||
| We'd like to give the National Pulse Patriot of the Year, that's Stephen K. Bannon, we'd like to give him the day off for St. | ||
| Stephen's and Boxing Day and bring in a host of guests that we've had on from across the year, people that we work with, people that come into The War Room often. | ||
| We've got a great lineup of guests for you over the next Hour and plus, so stick around, stay tuned, make sure you're sharing this out, make sure you are heading up warroom.org and making sure you sign up to the newsletter and everything else that comes with being a member of the War Room Posse. | ||
| So, speaking of the War Room Posse, one of the most important members is going to be joining us right now. | ||
| Natalie, I'm not sure if this is your first, I think this might be your first Boxing Day special that you've done with us, but As Steve just reminded me, this is I think our seventh year of doing this. | ||
| We used to do it on the old SiriusXM Breitbart News Daily Show. | ||
| We've done it in the War Room now. | ||
| This will be the third year we're doing it in the War Room now. | ||
| So, welcome to the Boxing Day special. | ||
| The first thing I always ask people on this Boxing Day special, a little bit, A little bit less news, a little bit more reflection is, you know, what was Christmas like for you growing up? | ||
| I talked just now with Steve about London Christmases, he was talking about Parisian Christmases, New York Christmases, and I once had the, I don't know if I'd call it pleasure, but I was once in California for Christmas and it was so very different, so very alien to me. | ||
| So what was it like for you growing up? | ||
| Well, thank you for having me. | ||
| And first of all, I'm offended that you don't remember I co-hosted last year's Boxing Day special with you. | ||
| I was just testing you. | ||
| I was testing your memory. | ||
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Yeah, looking past that. | |
| I am from California, specifically Los Angeles, and a part of Los Angeles that is known as, you know, the People's Republic. | ||
| It's a very, very, very far left. | ||
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Area. | |
| So for me, Christmas never really had any Christian elements to it. | ||
| I think the most you would see is maybe a few Christmas trees everywhere. | ||
| But, you know, as the years progressed, I really felt that there was less and less of an effort from either from the city or just the businesses and the stores in this area, which is Santa Monica, to really celebrate Christmas. | ||
| And I think what you were talking about with Muriel Bowser, how just trying to make everything very generic Happy holidays. | ||
| I think that's the same trend that I've been seeing in Santa Monica for a very, very long time. | ||
| You know, every now and then there's a house that goes all out with a full-on nativity scene, and that's great to see, but that's very few and far between. | ||
| So what about you personally? | ||
| I mean, any traditions at Christmas in the Winters household? | ||
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Um, not really. | |
| Presents? | ||
| Lots of presents, I imagine? | ||
| Well, you've got plenty of growing up to do, so... I was gonna say, I know, I haven't created any traditions of my own. | ||
| I still spend Christmas at home with my parents. | ||
| But, yeah, no real tradition. | ||
| Or maybe I'm forgetting that. | ||
| Thanks for the invite, by the way. | ||
| Yeah, that's what an interview is. | ||
| So, we'll do it next year. | ||
| Next year, we'll do Christmas in LA. | ||
| I will have a tradition for you. | ||
| Natalie, I know Steve is a big fan of Boxing Day. | ||
| Did you grow up with any sense of Boxing Day and what Boxing Day is? | ||
| No, the first introduction that I had to it was through War Room. | ||
| The first show that you did, I was not on, but as I politely reminded you, the second one I co-hosted with you. | ||
| So for me, I can plate Boxing Day with recording War Room and anchoring alongside you, at least for a few segments. | ||
| Well, that's pretty good. | ||
| I think that's the tradition. | ||
| The tradition is on boxing. | ||
| I'll tell you what. | ||
| I'll tell you what. | ||
| Next year, you can host. | ||
| You can host the Boxing Day Special. | ||
| I will pass the torch onto you next year, and it will give me the day off as well. | ||
| Maybe Steve and I will go play some golf or something. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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I don't even know if you'll remember that offer, but I will take you up on that. | |
| You're gonna have to set a reminder in my phone for December the 1st next year so that I remember that. | ||
| Natalie, it's been a crazy year, obviously, for a lot of people and I know we joke and we laugh and we smile and that's kind of the way we are, you know, happy warriors, you more so than me. | ||
| But I know that people have struggled this year and one of the things I think is very important to do is give back and that's why kind of on Boxing Day of every year I sort of sit down and think about what I'm going to do over the course of the next year in terms of charity, in terms of helping in communities that really need it and | ||
| You know, last year I decided to run that Tunnel to Towers 5K, which I did in New York a couple of months ago. | ||
| I've given a lot of money to that charity over the course of the year. | ||
| They don't know I'm saying this, by the way, so don't think this is some kind of... | ||
| paid endorsement or advertisement or whatever but just a couple of weeks ago I also received they did they did this this tie-up with this company in London called William Wood and William Wood started to sell these watches that are made out of reconstituted fire hoses and parts from from fire engines and stuff | ||
| And I was just so pleased to order one of the Tunnel to Tower special watches, limited edition watches that they did, and so I'm looking out there right now to see what the next year portends for me in terms of charity, and I really want to institute that, you know, amongst people that are able to do it, and I'm blessed enough to be able to do it, Is what we're focusing on, not just in the political sense, and we do that every day, but also in a community and in a charity sense, what we're going to do over the course of the next year too. | ||
| So I want, I don't know if you've got anything in mind. | ||
| I am putting you on the spot a little bit here with this. | ||
| I don't know if you've got anything in mind like that. | ||
| But if you don't, that's fine too. | ||
| I hope you'll take the next couple of days to kind of think about, hey, you know, where can I deploy some cash? | ||
| What events can I participate in that actually, you know, not news, not politics and are selfless? | ||
| Well, a shameless plug for my mom here, but she's very involved with a local Republican club here in Santa Monica. | ||
| And I know that their group, it's not political at all in terms of the way they give back to the community, but they're very active in helping out veterans, specifically homeless veterans. | ||
| And as someone who grew up in Los Angeles, the VA is a massive, massive property in Brentwood. | ||
| And there would just be lines of tents outside. | ||
| I mean, dozens and dozens of tents lining the property. | ||
| Even more inside. | ||
| They've created artificial or temporary housing now for a lot of these veterans. | ||
| But it's so sad. | ||
| They have American flags outside on their tents. | ||
| They have, you know, prisoners of war missing in action flags outside. | ||
| And I think, you know, not to make it political, but when you see so many Americans, especially those who put their lives on the line to defend this country, living in conditions like that, you know, while certain people are pushing to bring in more illegal immigrants, That to me, knowing that our government, at least currently, the regime in place that their priority is helping illegal migrants and helping people who maybe don't fit the typical build of a veteran, I think that those people really need advocates. | ||
| So I, even though I don't spend too much time in Los Angeles anymore, would love to help out with what my mom does for them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, good. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| And ladies and gentlemen out there, you know, if you are, if you are able, if you are able to, to, you know, even just participate in something, even if it's not signing checks or running runs or whatever it is, just if you're able to participate in something, I heavily urge it. | ||
| I mean, you know, this year has been very difficult for a lot of people and it doesn't show any signs of necessarily getting any better. | ||
| We had that amazing article in the middle of December from Jim Nellis up on the National Post talking about the trajectory of inflation, the trajectory of the supply chains at the moment, and the fecklessness of the Biden regime, the junta over there at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, the lack of concern they seem to have for ordinary Americans. | ||
| In fact, it goes probably further than that, right? | ||
| It's not a lack of concern. | ||
| It's an outright It's an outright dislike. | ||
| They view you with scorn. | ||
| And this is where these policies emanate from. | ||
| Natalie, let's look back over the year. | ||
| We're going to keep you over for the next segment as well. | ||
| But let's kick us off because we start in this year. | ||
| Some of the big stories I'd like to recap with you. | ||
| Some of the big scalps that you've got over this past year. | ||
| And of course, I want to talk about what we're looking forward to in the next year. | ||
| So let's take 2021. | ||
| What are the big moments that stand out for you, Natalie? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, I think anyone who's seen We Got a War Room would probably assume the first story I'd want to go over would be something to do with the CCP, that is the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| But there's another three letter group or really regime, I would say, that I think we did a lot of good investigative reporting on this year, and that is BLM. | ||
| That is Black Lives Matter. | ||
| People may recall this was early in 2021. | ||
| But we did a lot of exclusive reports on some old comments that of the three founders, particularly Patrice Cullors, who people may remember, she's the one who bought a bunch of mansions and built walls around those properties. | ||
| So she's, you know, the queen of hypocrisy. | ||
| But we had uncovered remarks from her back in 2010 where she compares a book that she, it's unclear if she wrote it or helped at least publish it, to that of Mao's Little Red Book, which was used to really justify purges of anyone short of completely devoted to the Chinese Communist Party during the Cultural Revolution. | ||
| And you can go and read the story on the National Pulse, but you see her laughing because a student came up to her. | ||
| And said, oh, well, your book reminds me of Mal's little red book. | ||
| And she, with a huge smile on her face, goes, well, that's so awesome. | ||
| You should get all your friends together and read a bunch of copies. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Well, that was an interesting way to kick off the year. | ||
| Stick around, Natalie Winters. | ||
| We'll go through more of the big stories from 2021 with you and what we're looking forward to, or not looking forward to, in the next coming year. | ||
| Natalie Winters, War Room Boxing Day special, Raheem Kassam. | ||
| Stick around. | ||
| We'll be back in just a second. | ||
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Bless the master of this house, the mistress of our soul, and all the little children that run the table go. | |
| For it is Christmas time, and we travel far and near. | ||
| May God bless you and send you a happy new year. | ||
| May God bless you and send you a happy new year. | ||
| Welcome back to the War Room, our Boxing Day special. | ||
| I realise Boxing Day was yesterday, it's the 27th, but we've been given special privilege to shift it today. | ||
| I'm glad you're with us because we've got a lot to go through and I think we've got a lot to look forward to over the course of the next year. | ||
| I think I'll get into this a little bit in the next segment too, my thoughts about 2022 and the midterms and everything that you guys and gals are doing out there. | ||
| But let's recap some of the things that we've been through together this year, some of the stories that we've broken. | ||
| Some of the things that without you guys out there, the Warham Posse, the National Pulse Posse, all of you guys out there, Revolver, Citizen Free Press, Kane will be joining us later on in the show today as well. | ||
| Without all of you guys pushing and pushing and putting your shoulders to the wheel all the time, we would have never managed, these stories wouldn't have managed to cut through. | ||
| Some of the scalps that were absolutely necessary to get over the last year. | ||
| Wouldn't have managed to get those without you. | ||
| So let's bring Nazli Winters back in to talk to us about some of those things. | ||
| Nazli, you talked about that BLM story and I think that was really one of the big moments that set this whole skepticism or renewed skepticism I should say. | ||
| Because BLM has actually been around for several years now. | ||
| Didn't get much traction early on. | ||
| They obviously capitalized and I think, you know, fiendishly almost, like ambulance chasing lawyers, kind of went to those stories of, you know, the George Floyd story and made those into far worse situations for America than they would have been if there had been a civilized national conversation without a Marxist political agenda behind it. | ||
| And that was a really interesting moment. | ||
| What are the other ones that stand out to you from over the past year? | ||
| Well, just real quick on BLM, because you are so right that they have really seized and exploited, I think, a lot of what has happened in the last year. | ||
| But we found other speeches where these BLM founders invoked Mao in a very, very positive way. | ||
| Also speeches, even from as recent as 2016, Where you see one of the other co-founders encouraging followers of Black Lives Matter to, quote, train in Marxist theory. | ||
| So I think that these stories, while they're certainly great bites to watch, I think that they represent kind of a bigger problem, which you were just touching on, which is just the complete and utter misrepresentation about what this group is about, which really, I think, has had such an influential impact over the course of, I think, America's you know, trajectory this year, but really its future, at least they're fighting for it. So I think it's really important. And that's the kind of work we do at the National Pulse is, you know, | ||
| peeling away the layers of the mainstream media and corporate funded narratives about what these groups are and really letting these leaders in their own words, say it for themselves and tell you that BLM is a Marxist group, but to kind of do a, I guess a bit of a 180, although I'm sure there are some, some Marxists involved in this too. | ||
| I think another big story we did, obviously I'd be remiss to not mention Peter Daszak. | ||
| Maybe he should have been a contender for National Pulse Patriot of the Year. | ||
| Or the Anti-Patriot. | ||
| Well, you know, it's funny, we should have a National Pulse Traitor of the Year as well. | ||
| Maybe we'll start that next year. | ||
| That's very good. | ||
| Well, Peter Daszak should win it. | ||
| He can carry over to this year. | ||
| But I think a very important story we did. | ||
| Again, getting into this kind of disrupting the narratives that you've heard, whether it's from these corporate media outlets or big tech, is how Google.org, which is the philanthropic foundation associated with, I'm sure you've all heard of Google, was actually funding a lot of the research that was being carried out by EcoHealth Alliance for over a decade. | ||
| A brief on on EcoHealth Alliance. | ||
| This is the group that was led by Peter Doshak. | ||
| That is the Anthony Fauci funded Peter Doshak who collaborated in his own words extensively with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but specifically on manipulating bat coronaviruses to make them more lethal to humans. | ||
| Even the NIH now admits that. | ||
| But we uncovered at the National Polls how for over a decade, Google, again, which was censoring stories related to the true origins of COVID-19, which is, you know, not the wet market, not natural origins, was actually funding EcoHealth Alliance research too. | ||
| And I think the very lead of this story, which we were fortunate to see a lot of traction on, I believe Fox played it. | ||
| I think even Tucker gave us a shout out for this story. | ||
| In 2018, EcoHealth Alliance actually received funds from Google to carry out a study on bat spillover events creating pandemics. | ||
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And this research paper, if you read it, Which I did. | |
| It kind of lays the groundwork for the natural origins theory of COVID-19, which again, I think is really interesting when you kind of compare that to the narratives that big tech and corporates like Google have ran with, with regard to the origins of COVID-19. | ||
| So, collusion at its finest. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| And of course, you've had several scalps in this area over the course of the year. | ||
| I think it's worth reflecting, by the way, for the audience, worth reflecting on Natalie Winters herself for a second, because You're very odd in this town, in the sense that you actually care about the work output first, you care about the news stories first, you care about shining a light on the bad guys first, more than anything else. | ||
| More than the cocktail scene, which I know you don't do anyway. | ||
| I don't get invited anyway. | ||
| Well, neither do I. I still show up, though. | ||
| You know, rather than the plaudits and the praise and all of that that everybody, all these reporters who actually end up reporting nothing in DC are out for, you know, I realize this isn't Thanksgiving, but I am thankful that reporters like you still exist, and it's It's almost a daily strange memory for me that I remember that you're, what are you, 20 years old? | ||
| College, no formal training, you haven't been to, you know, journalism school, you haven't gone through, and it's probably why you're actually good at this, because you haven't had that kind of, you know, NYU indoctrination as to what, you know, what journalism really is, and that is what, you know, what's on the front page of the New York Times every day and so on and so forth. | ||
| So those things are fascinating to me, especially because nobody can doubt, and history will tell us even more so than we currently know it, that when you look back and you look at the Peter Daszak's, when you look back and you look at the Marion Koopmans, when you look at all of these people who you've had under the magnifying glass for the last year, | ||
| There can be no doubt that it's your work that has brought these people down, and I don't know if you have any reflections on that, but take us away with your next few stories of the year as well, if you don't mind. | ||
| Well, that is very kind of you, and thank you, but it wouldn't be possible without an editor as great as yourself. | ||
| I know you always say the problem in DC is an editor problem and not a journalist problem, but at the National Polls, I don't think that's the case. | ||
| You have an editor problem. | ||
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No, we have a journalist problem at the National Bowl. | |
| No, you know what? | ||
| You're right. | ||
| And I think it's sad, but if we didn't shine a light, a very, very, very bright light, might I add, on these people, names that you probably wouldn't know, and in some cases maybe forget, they slip out of your mind. | ||
| No one else would, and we don't need the credit, but if we can get the ball rolling on these stories, in a few months down the line, you see other outlets, whether they're more mainstream or not, picking them up, then we're doing our duty. | ||
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Yeah, fine. | |
| But, fine, all good. | ||
| But we could probably do an eight day long special on the compromise of the Biden regime. | ||
| But I'll just do two of my highlights, my personal favorites. | ||
| One is an individual by the name of Thomas Zimmerman, who is running Joe Biden's NSA personnel selection process. | ||
| So he's basically choosing who gets to work at the National Security Agency, which is a pretty important role. | ||
| And this individual previously served as a fellow At a China based Chinese Communist Party run think tank that has been flagged and is in litigation ongoing by the FBI for serving as really a, I'd say ground zero for spotting and assessing potential Americans to become spies on behalf of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| It's really a foreign influence operation. | ||
| You've seen people who used to work for the CIA go overseas, get on their payroll and work for them. | ||
| And sell classified documents. | ||
| It's called the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences. | ||
| And this person was convicted of doing that. | ||
| I forget his name, but Thomas Zimmerman worked at that same think tank and he's now running the NSA personnel selection process for Joe Biden. | ||
| But this problem is, I would say, systemic. | ||
| It goes all the way to the top. | ||
| And I mean, and that, that Bill Burns, who is the CIA director, Well, he oversaw for a couple of years serving as president of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. | ||
| Really extensive donation and just influencing from a Chinese Communist Party influence group known as the China United States Exchange Foundation. | ||
| And just a bonus here, Jen Psaki also served as their vice president for communications and strategy. | ||
| But what I think is really important about this Bill Burns story is that he lied, you know, bald-faced to the Senate and saying that He halted any of this Chinese Communist Party influence group's overtures to the Carnegie Endowment under his leadership. | ||
| But we went in, we looked at the documents, and we saw that that wasn't the case. | ||
| They were still accepting money. | ||
| They were still having their American fellows go and work at a state-funded affiliated center and a state-run magazine. | ||
| from the Carnegie Endowment. | ||
| And they actually put an individual who was on the board of QSEF on the board of Carnegie Endowment under his tenure. | ||
| So these are just two people who are getting very high up in the kind of national security, national intelligence realm of the Biden regime. | ||
| And they are quite literally as compromised as you can get by the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Let me ask you, let me ask you a question. | ||
| Is it easier to find people with or without compromises to the CCP in the Biden regime? | ||
| Well, I've said many times on War Room before that it seems that the Biden regime has an affirmative action style hiring process for those with Chinese Communist Party compromise. | ||
| And I really think that as, you know, they add more appointments and nominate more people for Senate confirmation, that that holds true. So many of these people, I mean, all the way down to some of these interns, there's actually, so a quick aside, a lot of the way I do my reporting is by just going into the raw documents, the raw sources, and trying to figure out who exactly is working in the White House. And in doing that, I spend a lot of time on LinkedIn, because through that, you can see who's working there. And so, I think that's a really | ||
| important thing to keep in mind. | ||
| And I go through so many profiles that I actually get flagged as a bot quite a lot. | ||
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But in doing that, I had to make many new accounts. | |
| I hope LinkedIn doesn't censor me. | ||
| You hope no one at LinkedIn is watching The War Room right now. | ||
| Yeah, something tells me since they're so beholden to the CCP, probably not. | ||
| But you know, there's someone who used to intern at the Bank of China, who's now working there, in the Biden White House. | ||
| And while that's anecdotal, my point is, I mean, from the top to the bottom, and all the way, I mean, to Joe Biden himself, he's met with the leader of the China United States Exchange Foundation, too. | ||
| The compromise is real. | ||
| It's not conspiracy. | ||
| It's very well documented. | ||
| And again, these groups that we're raising red flags about, You know, the State Department and the federal government has raised flags too, at least under the Trump administration. | ||
| So, like I said, it's not conspiracy. | ||
| It's very real and it's very concerning and we're seeing the ramifications of it in real time. | ||
| Natalie just hang over the break because I want to get a little bit more into some of these stories. | ||
| Specifically I want to talk about Liz Cheney as well because you had a scoop in mid-December about Liz Cheney. | ||
| I want to bring that back up and also I want to talk a little bit about what you mentioned there is how you do what you do because frankly It would be wonderful to have more Natalie Winters out there, and if the audience can learn something from you, it would be wonderful. | ||
| So stick around, just hang on a minute, we'll bring you back in the next segment. | ||
| Stick around, more War Room in just a moment. | ||
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It's Christmas time and we travel far and near. | |
| May God bless you and send you a happy new year. | ||
| Good King Wenceslas looked out on the feast of Stephen, When the snow lay round about, and the king was sad. | ||
| Good King Wenceslas looked out on the feast of Stephen, When the snow lay round about, deep and crisp and even. | ||
| Brightly shone the moon that night, though the frost was cruel, When the poor man came inside, carrying winter fuel. | ||
| Welcome back to the Boxing Day special here in the War Room. | ||
| I'm Raheem Kassam, filling in for Stephen K. Bannon, who is, funnily enough, taking some time to himself today, which is, I think, more than deserved, given how hard he's worked and how hard they've tried to work him over the last year. | ||
| I'm sure lots of fun times ahead in that regard as well. | ||
| We kept Natalie Winters over, really, because I want to talk a little bit about what we do Um, over at the National Pulse. | ||
| You don't necessarily see us on your, on your, you know, uh, corporate television channels every day. | ||
| Believe me, we get enough invitations. | ||
| There isn't often the time, uh, to do all of that. | ||
| We're a very small team and tight team. | ||
| and getting into the way that we operate in the last segment, what Natalie was saying about, hey, we're not out there to receive plaudits and credit for things. | ||
| Our job is to do the investigative work. | ||
| One of the things that I did right at the top of this year, Natalie, was looking into that timeline of events that the media were trying to portray around January the 6th. | ||
| And I was the first person to pick holes, the big gaping holes in the timeline of events as we were told. | ||
| Same thing with the death of Brian Sicknick, Officer Sicknick, that was used after January the 6th by the establishment media. | ||
| There's a lot of those things that we get into the nitty-gritty, right down into the details, the per-the-second details of these stories, because a lot of what news is nowadays is unfortunately just narrative. | ||
| And once you start to see where the threads are loose, you can start pulling at them and getting a little bit more under the skin of the narrative creators. | ||
| And you know to that end I think I think you know I'm not concerned about necessarily getting the credit what I'm concerned about is whether that that story then takes off and and over the course of last year I think you've been one of the biggest you know contributors to the to the news cycle especially from the political right and everybody kind of looks at you and and and and you know how young and you know untrained you are in this regard and they want to know how does she do it so tell us how do you do it? | ||
| Well, I always say I wish I could give you a James Bond-style answer that I have some, you know, amazing sources that allow me to do this reporting. | ||
| But, you know, there's really not a, I would say, a secret weapon or any major secret that I have as to how I do this reporting. | ||
| I think there's two factors to it. | ||
| One, It's just that there is a, and has been, although no longer, but just a wide gaping hole, I mean a chasm, in terms of no one reporting on these stories, because as we've done extensive reporting, how the entire Washington, D.C. | ||
| establishment and media class is just not interested in people who sell out to the Chinese Communist Party, because they're all in on it. | ||
| And I think the other angle here too is we're so fortunate To be funded by patriots like hopefully some of the people who are watching today. | ||
| And because of that, you know, we're not beholden to any interests foreign or domestic. | ||
| We're not, you know, encumbered by certain corporations as to what we can and can't say about things like vaccines and mandates. | ||
| And I think that's what makes the National Pulse really unique is that we're patriot funded, I would say more often than not, by people who share our worldview, which is, you know, rooted in truth and reality, not deception and, you know, trying to push larger profits for pharmaceutical companies. | ||
| So I think that's really the great thing about the National Pulse. | ||
| But, you know, obviously, I'm 20, which I'm aware is probably pretty young to be a journalist. | ||
| But I think that in some ways, I find my strength through that, because I've been fortunate, you know, to be surrounded by some of the most brilliant minds. | ||
| I include you in that, I include people like Steve, and really everyone who comes on The War Room, right? | ||
| I've inherited a lot of my worldview and my personal opinions. | ||
| from people like that. | ||
| But because I'm so young, you know, I've had computers in the classroom since kindergarten. | ||
| I think I have a knack for lack of sounding like a boomer, really using technology and understanding how to manipulate the internet, use certain algorithms, find deleted web pages that I think most people who hold the worldview that I do don't necessarily have. | ||
| So I think that's what's so great about, yes. | ||
| Natalie, by the way, when you sit in this chair, it's a requirement that you speak over your guest. | ||
| Um, in, um... | ||
| In short, what you're saying is Natalie Winter's trick to reporting is that you know how to use a computer. | ||
| I would like to challenge that for a second, because I think that there are some other tips and tricks that you use that I think you can share with this audience, because I know a lot of people do their own research out there. | ||
| Um, one of them that you really got me onto was consuming information faster. | ||
| Tell us a little bit about that, because a lot of people find that daunting and intimidating and think, I can't do that. | ||
| Uh, but once, once you taught me to start doing it, I, I can do it very easily now. | ||
| Okay, well now I will get into the, the hardcore tips for, for those of you who want to spend your 20, 22... Well, you've got 90 seconds here. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Watch everything on 2x speed. | ||
| You can go up to 3x speed on Spotify. | ||
| When you're looking for news and scoops, don't just go to news outlets. | ||
| Go to places like, for example, PR Newswire, where you see a lot of these corporations putting out their press releases talking about who they're partnering with. | ||
| And also, the Wayback Machine is one of the best websites ever, because it shows you deleted webpages and archived versions, so you can track the changes. | ||
| that certain websites, whether it be the Wuhan Institute of Virology or these Chinese influence groups, are making. And in the cover-up you can often find the crime. So those are my, I'd say, best three tips in how I do most of my work. I'm a big believer in always going to the source I always say, you know, don't believe us. | ||
| We link to everything. | ||
| We link to all the source documentation, all this. | ||
| One of my biggest bugbears is when somebody will see a story we've done or will email it to them, right? | ||
| And the reply I'll get is something like, wow, is this true? | ||
| And I'm like, we've already done that work, you know, to show you that it's true. | ||
| Come back to me and be like, wow, this could be a real big story if it's true. | ||
| We simply don't publish anything that hasn't already been thoroughly vetted, checked, and sourced. | ||
| Natalie, thank you for spending some time with us here on Boxing Day. | ||
| We're really appreciative for your time, really appreciative for your work. | ||
| And I know we didn't get into talking about what's going to happen next year, but believe me, there's a lot of it. | ||
| And I want to make sure everybody's following Natalie on Getter. | ||
| You have a Facebook page. | ||
| Unfortunately, we all still, to get the news out there, have to be on places like Twitter. | ||
| But, Natalie, what's your handle? | ||
| Natalie G. Winters. | ||
| Natalie G. Winters. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, make sure you're following Natalie. | ||
| And the National Pulse will be back with more War Room Boxing Day special. | ||
| Don't go anywhere. | ||
| We've got some great guests in the next hour or two. | ||
| Hang on tight. | ||
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And send you a happy new year. | |
| God bless the master of this house, the mistress of our soul, And all the little children that round the table go. | ||
| For it is Christmas time and we travel far and near. |
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