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Episode 1,481 – 2020 Election Fraud: Georgia, Arizona; Vaccine Protests In EuropeEpisode 1,481 – 2020 Election Fraud: Georgia, Arizona; Vaccine Protests In Europe
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
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Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Yeah, my grave concerns about the development.
And finally, people are waking up to this because, as you said, they spent way too much time talking about voting laws that were 2016 or 2018 level and not enough time talking about vote counting.
Who's doing the vote counting and vote certifying?
And this is something that I think is critically important for people to focus on.
And the answer is, it's actually kind of up in the air.
And that's what makes this so dangerous, that there is a lot of ambiguity once a state legislature asserts itself into an electoral process.
It has a broad ability to set the rules of an election.
I mean, remember, a presidential election is 50 state elections, and those 50 State elections are regulated by state authorities and that's why the identity of the people running these elections and the rules governing certifying and counting these elections are so vital and so finally people are putting their eyes on the ball but it might be a little bit too late because here's the thing we've gotten to a point where we we took for granted the fact that state officials were going to do the right thing and
steve bannon
OK.
The New York Times had an article that they reiterated this.
Wherever you don't have sword, the Democrats, wherever you don't have source spreading around that evil money.
Right.
We're either local prosecutors or secretaries of state.
You're now having a revolt of the people.
OK, this is democracy manifested and that's what the elites can't handle.
Yes.
And you see in the Commonwealth, Virginia, poll watchers, election officials, election volunteers, county clerks.
Yes, we're voting their office or showing up as volunteers.
And it's relentless.
The numbers on CNN over the weekend are absolutely over the top about enthusiasm.
The Democrats are at virtually record lows, and we, this movement, are at record highs.
And this is driven by this audience.
You are having a direct, direct impact into American history.
And the elites are melting down.
This morning, more articles about how radical it is and how The reason they're saying dark days, they understand their days are numbered.
These radicals, right?
These radicals in the mainstream media propaganda departments, it's over.
You're going to get the tables run on you.
And these aren't going to be 1% elections.
These are going to be blowouts.
Blowouts.
Because we're an inclusive nationalism, an expansionist, an expansive populism.
Of every race, creed, color, gender.
And it is getting, it is, it is, it is, it is building and building and building and building.
Victory begets victory.
And you can see what's happening right now.
I want to go to, but we got to get to the bottom of 3 November.
Got to get to the bottom.
And he said right there, it's not about laws.
No, it is about people that are sitting there going, what happened on 3 November?
We're going to get to the bottom of it.
And it's never going to happen again.
John Fredericks called this.
He told me back in June, back in June in the Commonwealth of Virginia, this is how that will unite the Trump base, even with a candidate who's not MAGA.
John Fredericks, give us an update.
You're down in Georgia right now.
First of all, I love the sign in your backdrop.
Action, action, action.
This is what this whole thing is about.
lawsuits, you got Purdue involved in this lawsuit.
How can people feel that things are getting sorted out down there?
john fredericks
First of all, I love the sign in your backdrop.
Action, action, action.
This is what this whole thing is about.
Stop whining, start winning, get off the couch and let's get things done like we did in Virginia.
So here's a scoop right now in Georgia.
So David Perdue has signed on to the lawsuit that got kicked out by Judge Brian Amaro for no standing.
So Perdue, just before launching his campaign for governor with Trump's endorsement, signs on to basically the same lawsuit that Garland Favarito had that got kicked out for no standing.
Because he certainly has standing.
So he signed on to the same.
Now, he's a petitioner, along with a 19-year-old, Elizabeth Grace Lennon, who was denied the ability to vote as a first-time voter as an 18-year-old.
She went in to vote.
They said she had already cast her vote absentee.
Not only was the application mailed, but the absentee ballot came in.
She was refused the opportunity to vote, and they never gave her Any kind of answer for that 13 months later.
So she signed on to a 19-year-old, along with David Perdue, who certainly has standing because, well, he was the incumbent senator.
And if there are indeed 30,000 counterfeit fake ballots, which many of us think there are based on six affidavits from veteran campaign election officials, then Perdue would have been the U.S.
senator.
There'd be no runoff.
There'd be no John Ossoff.
So he signed on to it.
And they have requested Judge Amaro again because they think he's sympathetic to the case, but now they have standing.
In conjunction with that, the other case that was simultaneously in front of Amaro that got kicked out for no standing, it's represented by a lawyer by the name of Bob Cheeley.
He had 10 plaintiffs led by an election official, Caroline Jeffords, in Atlanta.
That got kicked out, but on Friday afternoon, When that got kicked out, they made an appeal to the Georgia Supreme Court, not really expecting the court to hear their case.
On Friday afternoon, the Georgia Supreme Court agreed to hear their case.
So now we have these two cases that were thrown out by Amiro.
One's going to be heard by the Georgia Supreme Court.
The other one, they're hoping, gets back to Amiro.
To look at it again, because all the judges in Fulton County would expect are going to recuse themselves again.
So, Perdue and his other plaintiff, actually their lawyers, requested a mural.
So this has got to go back to them.
Look, this is going to take months and months to work its way through, but it's not dead, and we've got to get to the bottom of these counterfeit ballots.
steve bannon
It's better than a sharp stick in the eye.
But and we got a lot of work to do, but we got to get to the bottom of the fake ballots.
We got to hold people accountable.
Correct me if I'm wrong, and this would have been a lot better if he had signed on in December of 2020 than December 2021.
But hey, The road to Damascus is oftentimes a windy, steep, and rocky road.
John Fredericks, special session.
I think it's wrapping up or just finished.
You dealt with redistricting, which I thought it was weak, right?
Weak.
Could have done much better down there, and I want you to explain why.
But I noticed something was not on there.
A full forensic audit of the 2020 election.
How did, with all the firestorm down there and all the great grassroots we got, all the folks down there in the John Frederich Radio Network, our station in Atlanta, all the fire breathers and hard fighters down there, how did we have a special session and not even have that on the agenda, sir?
john fredericks
Kemp wouldn't call it.
They can't get three-fifths of the vote.
Jeff Duncan, unfortunately Cosmoman, is still Presiding over it as Lieutenant Governor, Butch Miller, who's running for Lieutenant Governor, didn't want anything to do with it either, so it never got on the agenda.
What's worse is, in the General Assembly coming up in January, both Burt Jones, who is a state senator running for Lieutenant Governor at Beach Balls, Greg D'Alesso, like the gang of three there, they've told me that it is unlikely to get taken up Even in the new General Assembly where they don't need a special session because he said they don't have the votes.
So basically, the establishment of the Republican Party of Georgia has opted out of anything.
So we're never going to get to the bottom of it that way.
And I've been saying the whole time, you're never going to get A judicial ruling on this.
It's got to go through the legislature the way they did in Arizona to get the forensic audit.
And all we want to do is see, are there 20,000 or 30,000 fraud counterfeit ballots or not?
And if they're not, we'll all move on.
If they are, then we've got to take action on that.
Now remember, the lawsuits they have Neither of them now specify that any of the electors will be decertified.
So the decertification is off the table.
Perdue took that out.
So that is not in there.
They want to get a declaratory judgment by the presiding judge as to whether, in their opinion, based on the evidence, 20 or 30,000 of these mail-in ballots were indeed counterfeit.
As far as the General Assembly and redistricting, I mean, basically Republicans They kicked an opportunity to take two congressional seats back and just got one.
So they took the 6th district and the 7th, both of which were swing.
They would have won them both.
They gave the 7th to the Democrats, made that blue.
That's gone.
They gave that up.
That's in Gwinnett County.
And then they traded that off to make the sixth rent.
steve bannon
Let's face it, they should have taken them both.
Just like the Democrats have taken them in Maryland, Illinois, and New York.
And we don't sit here and whine about that.
We got it.
That's power politics.
And they play Smash Mouth all the time.
This is the problem in Georgia.
You got Stacey Abrams who plays Smash Mouth.
And she's cowed the Republican establishment.
They are petrified about being called racist down there.
Let's just lay it on the table.
They're petrified.
She controls that situation down there.
So, with President Trump's popularity, not just in Georgia, but with the Republicans in the Trump movement in Georgia, in MAGA, in America First, in the deplorables, and we can tell this because of the numbers.
Right?
You own a radio station.
We track numbers very closely, you and I, and we know that there's a massive audience down there.
Why is the movement, and let me just be blunt, powerless?
Why is it powerless against this entrenched Republican establishment in the great state of Georgia, sir?
john fredericks
They're playing not to lose rather than to win.
There's just fear, and it's really sickening to watch them get Totally rolled by the Democrats and Stacey Abrams again, but you nailed it.
They don't want to be called racist.
They don't want to deal with that.
So they're making deals.
They're cutting the mustard one way or the other.
They're not fighting hard enough.
And so rather than have a chance to win two districts, which in a red wave you win, you guaranteed one of them.
I mean, that's basically what they did, Steve.
And it really makes no sense.
There's a bunch of feckless leaders down there.
You know, they're afraid of their own shadow.
They don't do anything.
And this is why we've got to get involved and take action.
I had Vernon Jones on my show today.
He took callers.
He's not getting out of the way.
steve bannon
Is that Vernon Jones?
Is that Vernon Jones, the new insurance commissioner down there?
Vernon Jones, insurance commissioner, right?
Going to make sure your car insurance rates, that Geico and the Progressive are not cheating anybody down there?
Vernon Jones, insurance commissioner.
That's him, right?
That guy?
john fredericks
Yeah, he said he was not going to run for insurance commissioner, so he dispelled that rumor.
And he said he was going to continue to stay in the governor's race.
And on my radio show in Atlanta, we've had probably 650 people reach out to us, either phone calls, email, text or some matter, Steve.
And it's running 650 to three.
I got three people saying, hey, I'm going to vote for Purdue.
650 urging Jones to stay in the race.
So, I mean, I just don't know where the president thinks he was going with this.
I think it was a rash decision.
And it looks very transactional, because, you know, Perdue did nothing to speak of in the runoff.
That's why he got beat.
That's why 300,000 Trump voters stayed home, because he wouldn't deal with these issues.
Now he's saying, well, if I was governor, based on what I know now, I would have never certified the election.
Now he's signing onto the suit.
So it just seems transactional, and David Perdue has got to come on shows like mine on a continual basis and convince Republican voters that he's the real deal on this particular issue.
Now, we understand the close relationship in the Senate between President Trump and David Perdue, but you simply can't tell people what to do.
These voters in Georgia, Republican voters, are going to do what they want, And Trump can't tell me what to do.
steve bannon
John, just hang on for one second, would you?
I just want to hold you through the break for just a moment.
We're also going to go to Pima County and to Europe.
All next in The War Room.
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steve bannon
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So, Fredericks, you know, you get me worked up on your show and now you get me worked up on my show.
This is pathetic.
How can we have a General Assembly meeting down in Georgia and not even have it on the schedule?
Tell me in what universe, given the popularity of Donald J. Trump, can there be politicians down there that are going against getting to the bottom of the festering?
Is it because they're all complicit?
Is this the reason because the Republican establishment and the General Assembly down there, the House and the Senate, are complicit with bending the knee to Stacey's law?
Is that why we're getting no action?
I just want to know because I can't figure it out.
There's something not right there.
Trump's popularity, Trump's strength of character, Trump's going to be the nominee in 2024.
First of all, we're going to have a sweeping victory in 2022.
Why don't they want to get to the bottom of what happened?
Pope is the interim speaker of the House saying clean things up there before he then steps down after 100 days and gets on the campaign trail and wins a sweeping, massive, landslide victory in 2024.
Don't they get the joke that he's going to win his third term in 2024?
Why don't they want to get to the bottom of what happened?
We're not asking for any favors.
Let the chips fall where they might.
But why are they not having a special session and a full forensic audit and get to the bottom so we don't have to wind our way through courts and fight the Democrats at every step of the way because the Democrats don't want to turn over any records.
Because if they turn over any records, it's obvious they cheated.
They know they cheated.
That's why they're fighting us in every court from Wisconsin to the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to Georgia to Arizona to Michigan.
They're fighting every step of the way.
A rearguard action.
Why?
They understand they cheat.
They understand the only way they can win is cheat.
Don't listen to me.
Look at New York City.
They want to have 800,000 non-citizens vote.
That's their scam.
They want these phony mail-in ballots.
They want non-citizens voting.
They want the dead to vote.
They want to raise the dead and have them vote in elections.
This is the only way, and I don't care if the mainstream media doesn't like it.
I don't care if Twitter doesn't like it.
I don't care if YouTube doesn't like it.
Them's the facts.
So why are we not getting to the bottom of it where we have Republicans in control?
John Fredericks.
john fredericks
Most of the senior legislative leaders in Georgia are for incumbent governor Brian Kemp.
So that's number one right off the bat.
The downside of this lawsuit that Purdue has signed on to is their excuse now is going to be, well, we have a lawsuit.
We have a lawsuit.
Let's let that play out.
Let's let the judicial system play out.
We don't have to do it.
It's going to be done by a judge.
It's going to be a judicial solution.
So the lawsuit that Purdue signed on to was actually going to backfire in getting anything done in the General Assembly, and they simply don't want to do that.
They want to move forward with some kind of a tax cut plan or something else that they'll normally do in order to go forward and get through the May runoffs.
steve bannon
and many of them are being challenged. Oh, great, great, great, great, great, global tax tax cuts for all the global corporations headquartered in hot Lana in Atlanta. Right.
They're all woke. This is exactly why you should elect Republicans, ladies and gentlemen, particularly those in Georgia. This is why you ought to go ring doorbells and knock on doors for Brian Kemp and the rest of this blue blazer and khaki crowd down there so that they can give big tax cuts to the global corporations in Atlanta so they can get even more.
They can have even more resources to go woke on you.
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steve bannon
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steve bannon
John, always great to have you on.
Thank you, sir.
Got to sort that mess out there in Georgia.
John Fredericks of the John Fredericks Radio Network, the Oracle of the Polaris.
Let's go back to Pima County.
Caroline Ryan, Real America's Voice.
Caroline, walk us through, where are we?
What's the importance of this today?
Why are we spending our time?
We've got an all-star crew down there.
Cass, you've got Boris heading down there.
Fincham's going to be down there.
We're going to be back there live at 5.
Why are folks focused on Pima County today, ma'am?
unidentified
Steve, great to be with you.
And while I am here in Pima County covering this public election integrity hearing, I'm from Atlanta.
And a great report by John Fredericks just now, and I can second that, there is a massive lack of America First politicians there in Georgia that are willing to fight.
But I'll tell you what, that is not the problem here in Arizona.
There is a number of all-star, as you Just so accurately described there in your toss to me.
Legislators here in Arizona, these are MAGA, America First, Lions, Fighters, Conservatives, and that is why you see a number of security here.
The hearing is now underway, but we've got heavy security presence because there are some all-stars here.
On the panel is Representative Mark Fincham, who is running for Secretary of State of Arizona.
You've got Wendy Rogers, you've got State Senator Sonny Borelli and others, and then expert testimony today from Dr. Shiva, from Doug Logan, from Seth Keschel, Colonel Phil Waldron.
And at this hearing today, Steve, really the whole idea is that elections belong to the people, not to the government.
And there have been some allegations of really significant election fraud from the 2020 election here in Pima County, which by the way is the second largest population in the state of of Arizona.
These allegations were made early on November 2020.
There was a quiet investigation taking place behind the scenes.
To see if those allegations could be validated.
Namely, those allegations are that 30 to 35 thousand fictitious ballots were inserted into Pima County's election.
And so today, there's going to be testimony and evidence heard here before this panel of legislators.
And really, they're just going to take that in.
And isn't that a beautiful thing to have legislators up there?
What is their job?
To create law, to create policy.
So if anything else, I don't think the goal necessarily is for a full forensic, another audit, three, four, five month audit.
We know 2022 is barreling towards us.
And so people and just everyday folks here in Pima County, around Arizona, around the country, just want to know, hey, what are we going to do to secure Uh, 2022 coming up in 2024.
And so today, the evidence that is gathered here, they plan on handing that over to the Attorney General, of course, to further to bolster his case he already has on his plate from Maricopa County, from the audit we saw there.
And so that is really the goal here.
They're hearing testimony.
And I'll say one other thing, Steve, is in addition to some of that expert testimony that the legislators were here today, they have also allotted time for people in the community.
Because, again, you can't say it enough.
Elections belong to the people, not to the government.
And they deserve to have their voices heard.
And so people have signed up as this hearing is underway.
It's now 20 minutes into the hearing.
They have signed up to testify today.
If they have any evidence, if they have any irregularities or discrepancies that they saw, that they experienced, that they witnessed, they're going to have an opportunity to get up and speak in front of their state legislators today and have their voices heard.
steve bannon
Carolyn Ryan, we're going to come back to you at the open of War Room at 5 o'clock.
Tremendous reporting out there in Pima County.
An all-star cast out there.
Boris Epstein's heading up.
He'll also join us at 5 o'clock.
Carolyn, thank you very much.
Real America's Voice, Carolyn Ryan reporting live from Pima County.
This incredibly important hearing taking place today.
Short commercial break.
We're going to go to Europe next.
Talk about The vaccine protests over the weekend building in momentum, building in intensity as Austria goes to mandatory vaccinations for the unvaccinated on 1 February.
All next in the War Room.
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Okay, I want to go to Europe now.
People are not having a great Christmas, happy holiday, or the patriots and the sovereigntists in Europe right now.
Their power is rising.
It's kind of over the top.
I want to bring in Ben Harnwell.
Ben, these protests over the weekend, it looks like they're building in intensity and in scale, and particularly in places like Vienna and Prague.
But what Austria is doing with the continued lockdowns of the unvaccinated, their othering, Well, you're absolutely right, Steve.
These are scenes of massive anger, disgust and social unrest that are emerging out of continental Europe this weekend.
and of course mandatory vaccinations for the unvaccinated starting on 1 February.
Give us an update of what happened over the weekend.
ben harnwell
Well you're absolutely right Steve. These are scenes of massive anger, disgust and social unrest that are emerging out of continental Europe this weekend.
And as you correctly observe, the more the government clamps down on people's liberties, the more people are responding with protests in defense of their freedom and their liberties.
In Vienna this weekend, segregation for the first time in 75 years is now once again being legally enforced.
There are home confinement orders for the unvaccinated.
Anyone who's over 14, as you said, is now going to be subjected every three months to fines of €4,000.
And the protests that we just saw now on the video, these are, according to official police statistics, some 44,000 people were out there this weekend.
And these people, they were shouting resistance.
That was their keyword, their rallying cry against the very grave injustices that are being done to them.
Similar scenes, I don't know if you have the footage, are emerging also in other European countries.
I know we're listening to Christmas hymns in the break, but if good King Wenceslas were to look out of his palace window this Christmas tide, it's not going to be the snow that captures his attention, but thousands of livid bohemians marching down the principal thoroughfare of Prague, the Czech capital.
And why were they so angry?
It's the same thing.
It's the vaccination mandate for over 60 year olds and for other groups such as police and health workers.
Here the protesters were also complaining that their constitutional rights were being violated.
The glimmer of hope coming out of Prague right now is the new government.
There was an election recently.
The government that imposed these lockdowns is being replaced and a new government said It might suspend this order of compulsory vaccinations and it has three months in which to do so because these measures are due to come in place in March.
And we have similar scenes coming as well out of Spain, out of France, out of Luxembourg.
I'm going to come back to Luxembourg towards the end of my segment today.
But in all of these countries there are similar protests of people arguing forcefully against vaccine mandates and the proposed threat of vaccine mandates.
steve bannon
Now, talk to us about this.
There's also some issues about I want to talk about the defense of the Judeo-Christian West and particularly what's happening.
And I think it's in Denmark with one of the with one of the officials.
Talk to me about Orban, Viktor Orban over the weekend.
ben harnwell
Yeah, well, Steve, as you correctly say, it's not all bad news.
The populist nationalist movements are fighting back and as we all know now, Viktor Orban is doing heroic work in Hungary and he released an interview to Hungarian radio over the weekend in which he criticised Western European leaders as experimenting on people by mixing huge masses of Muslims with Christians.
His argument being That the global elites forcing this were hoping that something good might come out of it.
Now Orbán specifically was asked about the constitutional court ruling on whether the European Union's laws on accepting migrants takes precedence over Hungarian national law.
Victor Orban argues that because they have exceptionally in Hungary had a referendum on the issue and there was a clear majority for not accepting people, Victor Orban argues that Hungarian law in fact takes precedence over European law and that's now before, as I said, the Constitutional Court.
It's interesting to observe that this is specifically the issue in the UK that basically led to the withdrawal of the UK out of the European Union. In the UK, the issue that most got under people's skin, and this was a bipartisan concern, was the idea that in our thousand-year-long development of parliamentary democracy, our parliamentary sovereignty is now subservient
to the European Union.
And that, for us, was the issue here.
Now, Hungary is confronting the same issue, as is, I have to say, Poland, that they're being fined one million euros a day because the Polish refused to allow, in some areas, European sovereignty to override Polish national law.
So that is something that we're definitely going to be watching on and continuing to report on.
Now, if Hungary is a good example of the rebel alliance fighting against the globalist elites, this story is an example of how the empire strikes back.
We're moving on to Denmark now.
The Danish, the former Danish immigration minister, Inger Sternberg, has been found guilty of separating young asylum seekers, this was about four years ago, and led to Denmark's sixth impeachment case in its entire history.
And what has happened is that the judges have sentenced her to 60 days with a verdict that cannot be appealed and a jail sentence which is unconditional and it must be served.
Stoyberg said that the policy was designed to combat child marriage and in fact in February 2016 she did order that married refugees under 18 should not be accommodated with their spouse.
But the message clear in the current Danish regime is don't mess with the globalist overlords and their project of great replacement and cultural substitution.
Now The fourth and final story here is, in some ways, how these things tie together.
We know, because we've been fighting on these issues now for a number of years, that not everybody who superficially claims to support what we're doing is, in fact, a true friend of our movement.
And, in fact, the Catholic President of the European Bishops' Conference, Commessae, came out with a statement, and this guy is from Luxembourg, right?
We've just been speaking about Luxembourg.
He's a Jesuit.
So all good folk, we should be making the sign of the cross now when I say that.
He's a progressive, a key progressive, and what he has said is that discriminating against Christians and relegating religion to the private sphere is not a politically prudent move.
So superficially, reading that in the newspapers, one might say, brilliant, here's a guy, he's on our side.
He's saying just what we've been calling for.
But no, he goes on to say, rather, This attitude can push Catholics towards populist parties.
We must encourage politicians not to be afraid of policies inspired by the Christian faith.
Now, of course, when a Catholic cardinal talks about policies inspired by the Christian faith, they're really talking, in Francis' speak, for socialism.
And he says, if Catholics see these politicians, that is to say, their own creatures, I don't think people will fall into the trap of populist politicians who use the name of Christianity for their own ideology.
Well, obviously, using the name Christianity for ideology is the exclusive remit of Vatican clerics.
Now, it is important to note that European Catholic bishops don't want to promote Christianity in the public square because they believe in Christianity.
They're only doing it to stop disaffected Catholics defecting with their loyalty and support to politicians who are beyond the grasp of the Vatican's tentacles.
So here's the story, and this is how things are going to go.
From the vaccine mandates to immigration, there is a massive movement of anger, of a sense of injustice, a sense of powerlessness on behalf of the people.
And they are fighting back.
They expect to win, and they will win.
On this journey, we must be extremely careful, however, that not everyone who comes up and speaks a few slogans is in fact a true friend of what we're standing for.
steve bannon
Ben, how do people follow you on Getter?
Because you're on fire right now.
ben harnwell
Yeah, it's at Harnwell.
We've had some great debate with followers on Getter over the weekend.
I sent out some posts to do with an American commander on, in fact, the USS Winston Churchill, who was fired.
He was relieved of his commission because he refused to share his vaccine status with his commanding officer.
So here already in the United States, we can see some of what we've been talking about here, these compulsory vaccine mandates starting to creep in around the sides already.
steve bannon
Oh no, very, yeah, big story.
By the way, also go to warroom.org, get all of Ben's latest writings and all the links to all the different articles.
Ben Harnwell from Europe, thank you very much for joining us this morning in the War Room.
ben harnwell
Thank you, Steve.
Thank you, God bless.
steve bannon
Do we have time?
Let's play Joe Allen's, let's play Joe Allen's clip.
Let's go ahead, Denver, go ahead and play the cold open for Joe Allen, talk about transhumanism.
Let's go ahead and play it.
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You can go back, you can think of it as there are ancient precursors of this.
For example, this one of this theory would imply some sort of psychism in a sense that consciousness can be found everywhere where you have complexity.
You have a little complexity in a tiny worm and then there could be a tiny, you know, atom of consciousness there and you have these vastly hypertrophied networks in our brain.
There's vast amount of consciousness and maybe in some future At the point when all the planet gets interlaced in some hyper, you know, hyper internet, then that might also have its consciousness of its own.
With this computer, it's more difficult to say.
It depends on the wiring.
You have to actually look inside the box, as it were, look at the software and the wiring to actually determine whether or not this system is conscious.
It may perform very complex action like recognizing a cat, driving a car like Google Cars does, but may not be conscious.
And it can even claim to be conscious.
steve bannon
It says, of course I'm conscious, and not be conscious.
unidentified
That's correct.
It could even claim to be conscious.
And so, for instance, we're faced with an interesting question.
What about the Internet, right?
So the Internet is mankind's most complex artifact, the most complex thing we've ever built.
It contains only about 10 billion computers, roughly.
Each one has a couple of billion transistors.
So as a whole, there are Maybe 10 to the, you know, 17, 10 to the 18 transistors.
That's 10,000 times more synapses than in my brain or in your brain.
So it's an interesting question, which right now isn't really a good answer.
Does it feel like something to be the Internet?
Is the Internet or part of it conscious or could it be conscious in the future?
You can go back, you can think of it.
steve bannon
Okay, I tell you what, we're going to bring in Joe Allen.
Joe, I want you to hang right there.
We're going to take a short commercial break, get some great Christmas music, and Joe Allen is going to explain all of that, what they're talking about, and where you can see it.
All next in The War Room.
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I want to bring in now Joe Allen.
Joe, what did we just see?
What was that?
Is that a film that's been made?
Walk us through, one, what was it?
And two, what were they talking about?
joe allen
So those were interviews with Christoph Koch.
Christoph Koch is a neuroscientist.
He's the president and chief researcher at the Allen Institute.
For Brain Sciences in Seattle, he is a major figure in neuroscience.
So, even though that may have sounded like an interview that would have come off of, say, Coast to Coast AM or something like that, this man is a well-established scientist talking about the possibilities of the Internet being a conscious being, a global brain.
And he's rooting his idea in the notion of panpsychism.
It's a very important concept if you want to understand why it is that certain technologists actually believe that artificial intelligence systems could become conscious or that the internet itself could become conscious.
Now, you know, we're doing this today because an excellent article was published in mindmatters.ai Which is primarily a religious publication that discusses technology and AI in general.
The title is, Why Panpsychism is Pushing Out Naturalism.
And it was written by Denise O'Leary, whom I've read for many, many years at Salvo Magazine and elsewhere.
She's quite brilliant.
And what she's discussing is, first, the normalization of the notion of panpsychism.
Now, a quick definition of what panpsychism is.
Panpsychism is the idea that consciousness is a fundamental property of matter.
It doesn't arise from matter.
It doesn't proceed matter.
Consciousness is a fundamental property of matter, from atoms, to worms, to plants, to human beings, and on to possibly computers.
And this is not a fringe idea.
What Denise O'Leary tracks is the normalization of this idea through journals such as Nature, and also more popularized publications like Scientific American or New Scientist, and various neuroscientists and biochemists who argue for this idea.
It really does, it's an ancient idea, right?
Like, this is just really a revival of the notion of animism, or the notion of Brahman and Atman in Hinduism, but it's being tailored for a scientific mindset.
And so, what Denise O'Leary writes, and she's a Christian woman, she's very scathing of scientism in general, But here she writes about how this is a way for scientific materialism, which has long tried to kind of explain away consciousness as, you know, a mere epiphenomenon of the body and the brain, an illusion created by your neurons, you know, a lingering survival mechanism from the ancient days that may not have a use anymore.
And what she is pointing out is that basically None of those arguments make sense, and particularly none of those arguments give life any meaning.
And so scientists are looking for other ways to give meaning to the consciousness that we hold, and also to explain why it is that there is a world, and why it is that we have an experience of it.
One of the ideas that she points out, which is really fascinating, is that scientific atheists, many of them have started to push this idea of the simulation theory.
And this idea that the universe is the creation of either, you know, an ancient artificial intelligence system that got to the point that it could create a new universe, or possibly extraterrestrials, and we are all just, you know, floating around in a digital simulation.
Now, what that does is it basically just takes the scientific materialist worldview and injects a new God into it.
If I could say it briefly, I would say that really what they're doing, you know, I do agree that most entities that we interact with, including in the natural world, are conscious.
But what these scientists are ultimately doing is looking for God in all the wrong places.
They are trying to create new mythologies for an atheistic worldview.
steve bannon
Okay, by the way, we've got to drill to the bottom of this because this is one of the foundational elements of transhumanism, which is a topic that we are going to make sure the War Room Posse is ahead of.
That issue about the Internet actually having consciousness, being a global brain, was first laid out by a Jesuit, Teilhard de Chardin, back in the 1950s with the noosphere coming off of Vernansky's Theory of the biosphere being the film of life that surrounded the earth the noosphere being the interconnection of thoughts And he actually predicted that was 40 or 50 years before 60 years before the internet We're gonna get to the bottom of all of it Joe go to warm org You can see all of Joe Allen's writings.
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What what's your Twitter?
What's your getter handle because you're on fire and getter right now.
joe allen
I Yeah, you can find me at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z at Gab Twitter and Gitter.
Lots of stuff coming up and lots of stuff there right now.
Have a look at it or my website joebot.xyz.
Thank you very much, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay, Joe Allen on fire.
By the way, Joe, don't be talking trash about Art Bell and Coast to Coast, man.
I was weaned on that.
joe allen
Hey, I'm not talking trash.
I'm not talking trash.
Those guys are great.
Huge inspiration.
steve bannon
I love Art Bell.
Art Bell's my man.
And the whole team over at Coast to Coast.
Okay, from the sublime to the less sublime, we're going to be back at 5 o'clock.
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