Dec. 9, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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| Isn't a lot of sense of urgency that I personally see among Democrats to understand that they're not facing just, you know, Bob Dole, the late Bob Dole, or just sort of the old Reaganite Republican Party, that this is a different kind of party. | ||
| I mean, Matt Gaetz has made it very clear that A, he's either going to try to make Donald Trump the next Speaker of the House, which he theoretically could do. | ||
| You don't have to be a member of the House to be Speaker. | ||
| Or that they're going to use the House as a sort of star chamber to do their same sort of theatrical attacks on Democrats, but do it with committee chairmanships. | ||
| And that they want to use the House to continue to do this demonstration of autocracy, not to govern. | ||
| And that Democrats seem to be laying back and sort of waiting for that to happen and drawing out this investigation. | ||
| I mean, Steve Bannon's, you know, case isn't going to come to trial until next July. | ||
| Is there enough urgency to stand in the way of what is not just a nasty party that could take power, but an autocracy, a party that wants to implement something fundamentally, you know, | ||
| different from American democracy. | ||
| Waiting for basic answers regarding evidence. | ||
| Waiting for access to counsel. | ||
| This report must be a guidepost for ongoing Republican oversight effort in the Congress. | ||
| Because we are going to take power after this next election. | ||
| And when we do, it's not going to be the days of Paul Ryan and Trey Gowdy and no real oversight and no real subpoenas. | ||
| It's going to be the days of Jim Jordan and Marjorie Taylor Greene and Dr. Gosar and myself doing everything to get the answers to these questions. | ||
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Walt Disney also once made the reference, all of my best movies have my best villains. | |
| And you know what? | ||
| We got some serious villains here. | ||
| This is not made up stuff. | ||
| These are people who don't fundamentally believe in American democracy. | ||
| And in the same way that you had Peter Pan, right? | ||
| Great movie. | ||
| But one of the reasons why it was such a good story is that you had Captain Hook. | ||
| I think at the end of the day, we've got to tell the story of the protagonists, those who are fighting for everyday Americans, President Joe Biden and the Democrats. | ||
| And, you know, we've got some some pretty rough folks who I don't believe have the best interests of everyday Americans at heart if we were to lose the majority. | ||
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| OK, I'm here with Captain Hook. | ||
| This is I can't tell you how much I love this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It just it played perfectly. | ||
| The Star Chamber, the whole thing, but I want to make sure our audience who are the activists who are making this happen. | ||
| I understand exactly what we're talking about, about a Republican Party, because Joanne Reid says the quiet part out loud all the time. | ||
| They want to go back to the Bob Dole Republican Party that won elections and lost the country. | ||
| And Bob Dole's a great man, don't get me wrong, I love Bob Dole, but I'm saying as someone that can thwart the apparatus of the globalists. | ||
| You know, also you have Brooks, you have David Brooks on Morning Joe every morning with the wiring glasses crying about the end of conservatism and the end of Edmund Burke and all that, where we're developing the little platoons, the little platoons that go to the school board meetings, the little platoons that go in and take over the election officials in a democratic process, the little platoons that are becoming precinct committee men. | ||
| I mean, this is the rise of the little guys, the rise of the American Lao-Bai Jing. | ||
| And what Matt Gaetz has said is, hey, look, here's how we got to do it. | ||
| What we have to do is actually start to investigate, start to oversight. | ||
| This is the way if you want to control the administrative state and the apparatus, you have to engage in combat with it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So Gaetz and now they've got a whole theory. | ||
| You know, you're you're you're the Captain Hook. | ||
| You're the villain. | ||
| I don't know who Peter Pan is in the scenario, but walk through what you're trying to accomplish because they're in full There's a reason they're having to do this. | ||
| They don't have a popular bill to run on. | ||
| They don't have new promises to make the American people. | ||
| at the tip of the spear of this, Matt Gaetz. | ||
| And so you've got Hakeem out, and Hakeem is a very bright person. | ||
| He's their most talented and most capable member. | ||
| He's the next speaker when Nancy Pelosi tosses it in. | ||
| Undeniably. | ||
| And he understands that for them to be able to tell a story, they have to threat construct around a series of political villains. | ||
| And I'm willing to shoulder that burden. | ||
| If Republicans need to know how to be led in an effort of rigorous, dogged, fair, but determined oversight, I'll show them how to do it. | ||
| So will Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| What we are not going to do is go back to the days of, you know, I would say kind of the George W. Bush era of republicanism, where there was just this exasperated surrender to the frame that they set. | ||
| Here's how I'll set the frame, if we take the majority. | ||
| When we take the majority. | ||
| We will staff our committees with Republican leads who are not there to engage in this theater of legislating with bills that will just be vetoed. | ||
| And just have a lobbyist come up and testify so they can go back to their client and say, hey I was in front of these guys. | ||
| It's all theater up there. | ||
| It's performative. | ||
| There is an investigation That is teed up, at least one, for every single committee. | ||
| I don't want a head of the Education and Labor Committee who wants to go and do, you know, an interesting little education bill, you know, another version of No Child Left Behind. | ||
| I want somebody who's going to expose the Chinese Communist Party ties to the Biden Center at the University of Pennsylvania. | ||
| In ways and means, I don't want someone who's going to go carry water for the lobby corps on K Street for another little carve-out or exemption. | ||
| I want somebody who's going to go after an IRS that is targeting our people. | ||
| You know, in the Armed Services Committee, I don't want someone who's just primarily focused on getting a bill passed. | ||
| I want to expose the way that they have targeted our military service members who don't share the Woketopian view of the world. | ||
| So in every committee there's an opportunity, but personnel is policy. | ||
| And if I'm Captain Hook, send me some more pirates. | ||
| Send me some folks that are ready to get on this pirate ship and go after an illegitimate, corrupt Biden regime. | ||
| And that is the perspective we have to have. | ||
| And frankly, Steve, I got a little work to do with the Republicans for them to understand That we cannot go and hold hands in the warm spring rain with the Democrats. | ||
| And you want to look at who they're going after? | ||
| They're going after my posse. | ||
| You have the War Room posse, but I have a posse in Congress. | ||
| The Greens, the Boeberts, the Gosars, and those folks have been targeted. | ||
| That Cadre has been targeted. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I want to go back and make sure, because I want MSNBC to understand this, because it all connects, it's interconnected. | ||
| When you have the administrative state, what we're trying to explain to folks is that you have something that's impervious to elections, and that's this massive administrative state, right? | ||
| People call it the deep state. | ||
| I say it's the administrative state, and it's in your grill. | ||
| The only way to bring that to bear, you know, it's the economist saying the triumph of big government, right? | ||
| That's the administrative state. | ||
| And for all the limited government conservatives, you just have to understand, you won a ton of elections, and you never got serious. | ||
| All the limited government conservatives, God bless you guys, the libertarians, you're all terrific, but you won enough elections, you had the speakership, you had the Senate in the House one time, in the White House, under Bush you had this, we had enough victories, and it grew and grew and grew, and now it's a leviathan. | ||
| Your theory of the case, and I think this is brilliant, and it's never been done, and that's why the smart people at MSNBC, the producers behind the scene, we said, we see where Gates is going with this. | ||
| This is what Matt Gaetz says, every committee's an oversight committee. | ||
| Every committee, whether you're in education, whether it's labor, every committee is an oversight committee. | ||
| It's not a place for there for the lobbyists to come and show their corporate clients, hey, we're getting in front of committees and we're getting more, we're getting more goodies, right? | ||
| You're going to actually go and say no. | ||
| We see that there's a 5.2 trillion dollar Federal budget every year. | ||
| We see the fact that we're running one trillion, one and a half trillion dollars. | ||
| Forget the build back better in the infrastructure. | ||
| I'm talking every year. | ||
| And you're going to get to the bottom of, so in case the debt ceiling fiasco and this thing, it doesn't pass and we actually have a cap, the cash comes in, you prioritize the payments, but your theory of the oversight is that we'll get to the bottom of what has to be paid and what doesn't have to be paid. | ||
| That is shaking them to their core, because this has never been done and never been tried. | ||
| Matt Gaetz. | ||
| Every committee must be an oversight committee, but you made the point that most of Congress is performative. | ||
| You know, no bureaucrat will be safe when we take power if we implement my strategy. | ||
| All the apparatchiks are going to be in the dock. | ||
| And you've seen CNN and MSNBC get very exercised about a recent video with my colleague Dan Crenshaw, where he said, well, you know, we have some members of Congress who are just performative, and I, Dan Crenshaw, provide the intellectual substance for all. | ||
| Dan Crenshaw, this is the fake James Bond commercials, the cutesy James Bond commercial. | ||
| I'm saying performative, this is the guy jumping out of planes in a time when we're fighting for our lives. | ||
| This guy making the stupid, ridiculous James Bond videos. | ||
| He's talking about other people being performative. | ||
| Well, here's the great irony. | ||
| What I'm talking about liberates us from the performance. | ||
| The performance is what you see now. | ||
| The performance is what you see from the establishment. | ||
| Go to a committee hearing and tell me that's not a performance. | ||
| Members just show up to give their little five-minute speech and leave. | ||
| There's no real action. | ||
| There's no real movement to fight the dislikes of our people. | ||
| No accountability and no follow-up. | ||
| So what I'm saying is that, you know, stagecraft is statecraft. | ||
| People didn't like that Donald Trump raised his voice, but sometimes you've got to raise your voice to raise a ruckus and to raise an army of patriots who love this country and will fight for her. | ||
| And if we get more of them in Congress, then that is exactly what we're going to do. | ||
| We're going to operationalize the performance to go right after the people who are imposing the vaccine mandates, who are enriching themselves, and who are selling out the country. | ||
| So, starting with the Julian Reed, the Chris Hayes, the Rachel Maddow, the brains of the operation over there for the Democratic left. | ||
| Understand, this is a theory of governing, right? | ||
| And it's fresh and it's new. | ||
| This is Trumpism in power. | ||
| That's why we went to the 4,000 shock troops we have to have that's going to man the government and get them ready now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We're going to hit the beach. | ||
| You have the landing teams, the beach head teams, all that nomenclature they use when when when President Trump wins again in 2024 or before. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're going to have those as the 4000 political appointees on Capitol Hill. | ||
| You're going to have gates. | ||
| Yes, and we are going to go after this administrative state and we're going to start at the Department of Justice and the FBI. | ||
| That's the job I want. | ||
| Send me over to the Judiciary Committee and their sphincters will tighten because they've been doing a lot of corrupt things over there. | ||
| The FBI and the Department of Justice have become the enforcement wing of the Democratic Party. | ||
| Is that your priority? | ||
| I've argued for years now, even when I left, inside the Trump administration, before Breitbart, and then after I left, you need a commission like they had back in the night, a church committee, to go through the CIA, all the national security apparatus. | ||
| You would actually do it from Capitol Hill. | ||
| You would say, hey, we're going to get to the bottom of the national security apparatus. | ||
| I don't need a new committee, I just need a gavel, Steve. | ||
| And you, coming from Pensacola in your district, A super patriot. | ||
| It's not that we're anti-military at all, but whatever this is devolved into, we're anti what this is, right? | ||
| And this has got to stop. | ||
| Well, I mean, we are doing this to vindicate the patriotism of the people who wear the uniform and who serve our country in a variety of ways in law enforcement and really throughout our society. | ||
| And those people feel betrayed by what is going on in this town. | ||
| And too often they send members of Congress who want to wax poetic about their critique of performance, while at the same time They can't operationalize effort. | ||
| Dan Crenshaw, I got a lot of respect for him, a lot of respect for his military service. | ||
| His book, which sold way more copies than mine, is called Fortitude. | ||
| I read it. | ||
| The essence of it is that we've just got to have the stiff upper lip, and we've got to have the ability to endure more pain. | ||
| Well, I don't want to be a movement that endures pain. | ||
| I want to be a movement that dishes it out, and that's what I want to do. | ||
| They understand. | ||
| MSNBC understands that we're coming for them. | ||
| And there's a reason they're embracing the Fortitude, Accept More Pain, Dan Crenshaw view of the world, and critiquing the Matt Gaetz view of the world, almost juxtaposing the two, because there's one of those two things that the left fears more, and it ain't Dan Crenshaw. | ||
| I want everybody to understand that when you're out there at a school board meeting, when you're running for county clerk, county commissioner on the elections, when you're trying to volunteer, are you volunteering to be an election official or a poll watcher? | ||
| Or, if you decided to be a precinct committeeman, we need you to do that. | ||
| This is how it all ties together. | ||
| It ties together in a theory of governance. | ||
| They're going to take on, and guess what? | ||
| Deconstruct the administrative state. | ||
| Matt Gaetz is going to judge. | ||
| We've got the Ukraine. | ||
| We've got the war toxins in this town. | ||
| Joy Ann and all the folks over there, what they're petrified about is the lack of urgency on the left to organize, and we're organized and motivated. | ||
| We're going to ask Congressman Matt Gaetz about the lack of urgency of the folks that basically control this entire city, right? | ||
| And pop culture, and the universities, and all of it, the media. | ||
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next in the war room. War room pandemic with Stephen K. Banham. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. War room pandemic. Here's your host Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| I'll see you next time. | ||
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| I just want people to understand this. | ||
| They control the House, the Senate, the executive branch. | ||
| Illegitimately on the last one, and probably illegitimately in the Senate and the House races, too. | ||
| Suck on that, MSNBC. | ||
| They also control high culture, pop culture, low culture, Hollywood, the media, the universities, the internet cultures, the oligarchs in Silicon Valley, the woke corporations, all of Wall Street. | ||
| It's the billionaire donor class now that supports it. | ||
| So they control everything. | ||
| Who are we? | ||
| You know, it's the American Lao-Bai Jing, old hundred names, right? | ||
| But they're taking over school boards, they're taking over the election officials, they're taking over the Republican Party, and you've got Matt Gaetz and a handful of cadre members out throughout the country saying we're actually going to have another theory of governance. | ||
| Why are they, and you can see it now with this Atlantic, they've got the Atlantic Magazine, two issues, two issues to the insurrection. | ||
| Two whole issues. | ||
| And you got guys on CNN, and they're sitting there, they got the long faces, they're depressed, and Julian Reid says last night, we don't have any urgency. | ||
| Matt Gaetz is going to have a star chamber. | ||
| And they understand all their corrupt buddies in this administration, right, and all their corrupt programs are going to be in the docket. | ||
| They go, he's going to run a star chamber. | ||
| Where are you people? | ||
| Why don't they have any urgency on their side, Congressman Gaetz? | ||
| Well, they haven't delivered for their people, and so they draw no inspiration from the base the way we are able to do now. | ||
| But I recognize the energy I see on the left. | ||
| I remember what it was like to have the White House, the Senate, and the House, and to be unable to fulfill the fundamental promise that we made to our voters that we would repeal Obamacare, that we would seal the border, that we would deport criminals. | ||
| This is when Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell would not come through and support President Trump and his policies. | ||
| Oh no, I mean, you know, Paul Ryan, you know, had the strategy that would never come to fruition because it wasn't front-loaded with the effort and energy that was necessary. | ||
| Too much fortitude, not enough firebrand from the crowd that was in power when we last controlled the apparatus of government. | ||
| But now you see a party with unpopular legislation, With no real charismatic figures to rally around, they have no performance and they have no policy. | ||
| And so the result is that they've got to do this, like, this despair thing, this, you know, threat construction. | ||
| We've got to keep a bunch of boomers locked up in the D.C. | ||
| jail because they might be a threat to overthrow the government at any moment. | ||
| I mean, think about how crazy that sounds. | ||
| Basically suspend habeas corpus, right? | ||
| Suspend habeas corpus for like a year, keep these guys in jail to break them. | ||
| Well, they have to sell to the country that we are dangerous. | ||
| And we're only dangerous to the corrupt DC class, to the corrupt elites, and to the... | ||
| Bureaucrats who serve their interests. | ||
| To those folks, we are dangerous. | ||
| But to Americans who just want to wear their name on their shirt, go to work, take a shower after work, you know, they have nothing to fear from our movement. | ||
| They're the ones being crushed by, you know, 85,000 new IRS agents. | ||
| They're the ones being crushed by inflation, by supply chain issues that mean they can't meet the needs of their families. | ||
| And this is why you see the fire all over, the prairie fire all over the country that is our movement. | ||
| I mean, people going to school boards, taking over Elections, becoming election officials, taking over the Republican Party. | ||
| It's really incredible. | ||
| Before I got two things to get to, I know you got a punch list too, but I got two things I want to talk about this Ukraine situation. | ||
| But first, the report you and Marjorie Taylor, we had Marjorie here yesterday, couldn't get to it. | ||
| The report that you guys did, that you were talking, give people a succinct, we're going to put it up everywhere. | ||
| What did you find out? | ||
| Unusually cruel walks through the conditions in the D.C. | ||
| Jail. | ||
| These are the political prisoners of 6th January. | ||
| The January 6th detainees have been subjected to a version of American justice that is different and worse and unfair and that's what we stand against. | ||
| I'm nobody's lawyer. | ||
| I'm nobody's defender. | ||
| I defend the Constitution and our principles of justice, and when I see people unable to access medical care, which has happened, people unable to access counsel, which has happened, people unable to access evidence, And also spiritual guidance and the religious practices. | ||
| Sure, religious services. | ||
| I mean, dietary needs. | ||
| Just basic things that you wouldn't want deprived of any American accused of a crime. | ||
| We see this happening in Technicolor with the January 6th detainees. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| There's going to be a lot of accountability coming down on the folks who've tried to cover up what's really going on at that show. | ||
| I want to repeat this. | ||
| We're taking over in November 22 of that as sure as the turning of the earth, okay? | ||
| And there's going to be accountability. | ||
| You commit right now that there's going to be accountability of who allowed this to happen and who forced this to happen. | ||
| At every level, back up to these guys up on Capitol Hill, all the way through to the Justice Department, the Prison Department, all of it, right? | ||
| The White House? | ||
| Send me more pirates, Steve. | ||
| If I'm Captain Hook, I need more pirates on the boat. | ||
| Can Devereux play the clip from Neil Cavuto yesterday? | ||
| Matt Gaetz has wanted to talk about this topic for the longest time. | ||
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I want to play the Cavuto clip. | |
| So they're doing very little in that respect, if you think about it, to hold Putin back. | ||
| He's obviously got these troops with them there, right? | ||
| But they are there, and also, there's certainly nothing wrong with us, Neil, getting our troops in place in NATO countries that are treaty allies of ours. | ||
| So I would be supportive of that. | ||
| No, Senator, he could finish it. | ||
| I would not rule out military action. | ||
| I think we start making a mistake when we take options off the table, so I would hope the President keeps that option on the table, and to the extent that he has agreed to reverse his mistake on Nord Stream 2, if that is in fact what came out of the discussion today, I would applaud that. | ||
| I hope he does it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| What does military action mean, Senator? | ||
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Well, military action could mean that we stand off with our ships in the Black Sea and we rain destruction on Russian military capability. | |
| It could mean that. | ||
| It could mean that we participate. | ||
| And I would not rule that out. | ||
| I would not rule out American troops on the ground. | ||
| I think it's the third time I've played this. | ||
| Wicker is a senior member of the Republican Party in the Senate. | ||
| He's also on the Armed Services Committee. | ||
| So he's briefed up. | ||
| He's got a security clearance. | ||
| But there's certain things in negotiations if you're gonna be tough, but you don't take off the table Okay Get it. I'm not gonna let this one go. I think it's their time. We played this a Wicker is a senior member of the Republican Party in the Senate. He's also in the Armed Services Committee. So he's briefed up He's got a security clearance. He's briefed up First strike rain rain destruction on him from our fleet guys down in Tidewater in Norfolk my hometown and also in Pensacola rain | ||
| Destruction we're gonna go in the black sea We're gonna put we're gonna put a carrier battle group in the Black Sea We're gonna rain destruction on them from the Black Sea Including not just boots on the ground bad combat troops first strike nuclear tactical nuclear weapons Matt Gaetz The neocons in this city, and here's what I'm telling people, they're both parties. | ||
| You know, last night, Rachel Maddow's going on saying, Ukraine's an ally, Ukraine's an ally, Ukraine's an ally. | ||
| Are we in a little signed alliance deal, militarily, with Ukraine? | ||
| Last time I looked, I didn't see it. | ||
| They're going crazy, both, the Uniparty is all over this, including up to tactical nuclear weapons, Matt Gaetz. | ||
| Only in the beltway of Washington DC do people seem to care more about the border between Russia and Ukraine than the border between the United States and Mexico. | ||
| What they're talking about, massive movements of troops, is precisely the provocation that Putin is looking for as a pretext to engage in military action. | ||
| And by the way, if he does, why do we give a damn? | ||
| If Vladimir Putin goes and gets a bunch of people who are ethnic Russians who speak Russian in the eastern Ukraine to reunite with Russia? | ||
| You're telling me that that is some, like, cataclysmic critical event in the lives of Americans? | ||
| It isn't. | ||
| And by the way, if we were so darn worried about it, we should not have allowed Nord Stream 2 to exist because that is what has given Russia the ability to now meet the European energy markets and to seek to limit Ukraine's ability to do that as a competitor. | ||
| And so if anybody It should be Europe. | ||
| Europe should go solve this problem, not the United States. | ||
| And to sit there and pound your chest about NATO? | ||
| Give me a break. | ||
| NATO is a joke. | ||
| As long as Turkey is in NATO and considered a NATO ally, I'm not looking at NATO as a serious organization. | ||
| NATO may pose more of a threat. | ||
| There's two and a half combat divisions in all of NATO, I think it is. | ||
| They don't put any money into their defense. | ||
| They want the U.S. | ||
| We just got out of 20 years because of your fight. | ||
| We just got out of 20 years in Afghanistan after, what, 10 years in Iraq or 12 years in Iraq. | ||
| Nine trillion dollars, 10 or 12,000 dead, 50,000 combat injuries, suicides every day, PTSD. | ||
| We're out of that just over 90 days. | ||
| And in this town, I can't tell you, they are so determined to go back in. | ||
| And they will play this dance out with Putin. | ||
| Now, I know there are a lot of folks who watch the financial markets, who are part of the War Room Posse, and if you look at the Russian Sovereign Wealth Fund, it is at an apex. | ||
| And so this threat of sanctions, where Biden gets in there and says, oh, we'll do sanctions, it's a total joke. | ||
| And by the way, it ain't like the Russians are holding a whole lot of U.S. | ||
| dollars anyway at this point. | ||
| And so, you know, my suspicion is we'll do this dance with Putin, and ultimately Biden's weakness will be on full display. | ||
| This is also a wag the dog moment. | ||
| How do people get to your podcast? | ||
| It's on fire. | ||
| The book, you, the social media, all of it. | ||
| I'm on Rumble at Rep Matt Gaetz on Twitter as well. | ||
| Glenn Greenwald has a great piece out just in the last day about the corruption and the effort to try to smear me in the absence of evidence or charges. | ||
| Is somebody trying to smear you? | ||
| That's what I've heard. | ||
| Is there some issue that's going around? | ||
| Glenn's got a great piece, but my podcast is Firebrand. | ||
| Hope folks watch it. | ||
| I've got a great interview with Paul Gosar about how we're going to reshape this party to be a fighting force. | ||
| We'll do that. | ||
| We'll get the Greenwald thing and break it up. | ||
| Okay, Matt Gaetz, thank you very much. | ||
| The Star Chamber! | ||
| Captain Hook! | ||
| Captain Hook in the Star Chamber. | ||
| Thank you, Joanne Reed. | ||
| We're going to be back. | ||
| We have Dr. Naomi Wolf is going to join us next. | ||
| We've got Tony Fauci. | ||
| Also, Jason Miller is going to join us in a moment in the War Room. | ||
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We will fight till they're all gone. | |
| We rejoice when there's no more. | ||
| Let's take down the sea. | ||
| I'm hearing from so many vaccinated people who feel as if, you know, there may be some personal rewards for getting vaccinated, but they still face all these restrictions and measures. | ||
| Well, yes, that is just the reality of the situation. | ||
| I mean, one thing that vaccinated people can feel comfortable, for example, let's take the holiday setting. | ||
| You're with your family. | ||
| You have grandparents and parents and children. | ||
| When you get vaccinated and you have a vaccinated group and you are in an indoor setting, you can enjoy, as we have traditionally over the years, dinners and gatherings within the home with people who are vaccinated. | ||
| And that's the reason why people should, if they invite people over their home, essentially ask and maybe require That people show evidence... There's so much opposition now in Congress and across the states, even in Democratic states. | ||
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| It's becoming just a political test and the outlook is not at all a sure thing in the court system. | ||
| Is there any thought of backing off of that and trying to avoid All the outcry against it. | ||
| Yeah, but you know, Andrew, we really have to get people vaccinated. | ||
| I mean, I understand and we all understand how people do not like to be told what to do. | ||
| They want to make their own choice and their own free will. | ||
| I get that and I respect that. | ||
| But these are unusual times and you can't think only of yourself and your own personal opinion, but you've got to think about your communal responsibility to get yourself and your family and indirectly then the community protected. | ||
| So I would prefer and we all would prefer that people would be voluntarily getting vaccinated. | ||
| But if they're not going to do that, sometimes you've got to do things that are unpopular But that clearly supersede individual choices and are directed predominantly at the communal good. | ||
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And that's what we're talking about when we're talking about... You've given me an engineer answer when you say it's tough to say it's necessary, that the booster is necessary, because I wonder, you know, given this data, there is this question out there whether the CDC should change the definition of fully vaccinated to, you know, your initial shots plus the booster. | |
| Once again, too early to say whether we need to change the definition yet. | ||
| I do suspect that we will move in that direction. | ||
| That's what we do for measles, polio, and so many other common vaccines. | ||
| You get your first series and then you get a booster at some defined interval. | ||
| When that interval needs to be, whether it's a third shot, whether it's a fourth shot, there's a lot still to learn about COVID in general, much less about this brand new variant. | ||
| Okay, welcome back to The War Room. | ||
| It is Thursday, the 9th of December, Year of Error 2021. | ||
| Now with over 120 million downloads to the podcast, of course, live everywhere. | ||
| Let's bring in Dr. Naomi Wolf. | ||
| So, Dr., I don't even know where to start. | ||
| You've got to stand in the garage and take tests or wear a mask. | ||
| And your Christmas dinner if you're not vaccinated, although Tony Fauci does respect our free will. | ||
| It looks like he's signaling Dr. Wolf, and this is the cycle from conspiracy theory to absolute government fact, is now 60 days, 30 days. | ||
| Is Fauci in all of this? | ||
| Because they came out this morning, I think you're going to have to get a booster shot every year or every six months now is what they're talking about. | ||
| Is Fauci basically signaling what Austria and Germany are doing? | ||
| Is he signaling in that piece right there that there's going to get a part of mandatory vaccinations and we're going to go to forced vaccinations in some period of time? | ||
| Is that how you read it? | ||
| Well, that's certainly the language that he's using. | ||
| And these talking points really are aimed at destroying or doing away with the American and Western idea that you have individual rights, individual choice, right? | ||
| He keeps going after the notion that you're making a decision, you're allowed to make a decision for yourself. | ||
| And all these people keep using talking points that are really lies. | ||
| You know, as we've said before, the notion that you're protecting your community by getting an mRNA vaccine when all the data show that vaccines affect severe outcomes and then they wane. | ||
| They don't affect transmission. | ||
| So he's really endangering people by saying, oh, you know, go ahead and party on in an indoor setting if you're only with vaccinated people. | ||
| Because again, vaccines don't affect transmission. | ||
| Dr. Malone said this. | ||
| Rochelle Walensky said this. | ||
| The studies say this. | ||
| The CDC says this. | ||
| So the only reason to perpetuate that lie is to allow there to be a narrative that says, OK, we have to lock you down. | ||
| We have to inject you against your will. | ||
| We have to fire you if you don't get injected. | ||
| We have to police you. | ||
| We have to make sure you're carrying your digital pass to create a totalitarian society. | ||
| That lie falls apart when you face the fact that vaccines don't affect anyone's outcome but your own. | ||
| Aren't they saying, but I just want to go through that when you say it's a lie. | ||
| Are they saying it's a transmissibility? | ||
| Because they get kind of confused how they knit it together. | ||
| Aren't they really arguing that this will lower hospitalizations, having to put you on, you know, intubate you and also lower death rates? | ||
| Is that the big pitch they're making since it looks like they've lost the argument on transmissibility? | ||
| Well, it's hard to tell from Dr. Fauci's Soundbites exactly what the scientific basis is of his instructions to society. | ||
| And that's why when you hear from Rochelle Walensky, you hear from Dr. Fauci, you hear from all these spokespeople, most of whom are deeply conflicted when you go two clicks in into their affiliations. | ||
| They never provide the data. | ||
| They never provide the studies. | ||
| You know, what peer-reviewed study shows that I am safer or that my community is safer since vaccines don't affect transmission? | ||
| I don't hear him saying or providing data that we have to do it to keep hospitals from being full. | ||
| And in fact, a lot of studies are coming in now showing that hospitals are full of vaccinated as well as unvaccinated people having severe outcomes, breakthrough infections, and so on. | ||
| And if that wasn't the case, why has the narrative shifted to you don't just need a booster once, you need it every three months, the, you know, the protection wanes, and so on. | ||
| So I think we're kind of going down the wrong road, trying to find the traditional scientific logic underlying what he's saying, because there isn't any, he's not producing it. You know, if there were studies still showing that hospitals are, you know, running into barriers full of unvaccinated people with severe outcomes, they would produce those studies. But that's not what the data is showing out of Israel, for instance, where most | ||
| of the hospitalized people are vaccinated. | ||
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| They've doubled and tripled down now on the blunt force instrument of vaccination, vaccines for everybody, not targeted. | ||
| And they've completely now just refused to discuss therapeutics or boosting the immune system. | ||
| Is Fauci and CDC, their focus on vaccinations with the big pharma companies here, Is that is the natural conclusion you give our audience that's going to lead us to an Austria? | ||
| Because today, Austria took off the basically the mandate for people that are vaccinated to stay in. | ||
| It's just unvaccinated. | ||
| And of course, unvaccinated then on 1 February, everybody in the countries, it's a mandatory vaccination. | ||
| So are we heading towards that, given that Fauci and CEC are now a thousand percent in on just the vaccine? | ||
| The strategy is vaccinations for everybody, full vaccinations. | ||
| Is that what we're in? | ||
| So that is definitely what they're pushing for and driving at, and that's what you're right to worry about. | ||
| You know, thank God, as I've said many times, for our state system and our Constitution, because there are some laws we have on the books that make that Outcome more difficult in the United States than in Austria. | ||
| But I want to ask you to look at a bigger picture. | ||
| And what I want you to see is that FOIAs have released private Pfizer documents that really confirm that we're looking at, as I've said before, a massive crime against humanity with the covered up, underplayed, severe outcomes that these mRNA injections have. | ||
| public health and medical professionals for transparency in documents, FOIAed the FDA. | ||
| This has not had the coverage it deserves. It's a huge story. And they got internal Pfizer documents for results from 90 days after the emergency use authorization release of the mRNA vaccines. | ||
| The internal Pfizer documents show 1,223 deaths and over 158,000 adverse events. And that phrase doesn't do justice. | ||
| If you look at the link, Celia Barber on Daily Clout and on her own sub stack, Mark Crispin Miller have covered this. | ||
| They have the link to the document. | ||
| It's dozens and dozens of serious, serious outcomes, dozens of thrombotic events, cardiac events, hemorrhages, brain hemorrhages, seizures, fetal death, spontaneous abortion, dozens and dozens and dozens. | ||
| And so I think that the crushing drive, that relentless drive in Europe as well as here to vaccinate everyone, vaccinate everyone, is that they know that when the data are subpoenaed, when the truth comes out, Pfizer knew 90 days after the first emergency use authorization that there were these catastrophic events, | ||
| 150,000 in 90 days, catastrophic events, and they went ahead. | ||
| So this is a major crime against humanity. | ||
| You've got to assume that that's scaled globally. | ||
| And so I think they're doubling down. | ||
| They're all in. | ||
| Everyone has to get vaccinated or else the truth will emerge. | ||
| There's a control group that is not having those outcomes and other people who are vaccinated who are having those outcomes. | ||
| The other thing I want to ask you is, have you seen, where is it? | ||
| The large peer-reviewed study where there's one group of vaccinated people and one group of unvaccinated people, similarly situated classic science, and you see what their overall health outcomes are. | ||
| I have not seen that study. | ||
| And you'd think that obviously there would be such a study at this point. | ||
| So I think that these secret documents, and again, Pfizer is asking the court to not release other documents within 75 years. | ||
| Well, why is that? | ||
| Because there are bodies buried here. | ||
| And the truth will come to light. | ||
| With all the investigative apparatus we've got in the mainstream media, New York Times, The New Yorker, New York Magazine, you know, all the Atlantic, right? | ||
| The Atlantic's obsessed with the 6th January Lao-Bai Jing. | ||
| But are they, is anybody you know that that is legit at that level, you know, inside the apparatus? | ||
| Is anyone there, because there are some good people, or anybody, is anyone there starting to pick this up and questioning exactly what's going on? | ||
| I mean, that's such a heartbreaking, important question. | ||
| The Columbia Journalism Review has done a really good story about how millions of dollars have gone from the Gates Foundation and pharma to the BBC, to NPR, to The Guardian, you know, The New York Times. | ||
| So there's a financial incentive to not do these stories. | ||
| I mean, it's incredible to me that this story, which is a front page story, You know, is being reported by independent journalists on Substack. | ||
| So the big answer is no, but I think that people, I mean, this is really telling. | ||
| I posted on Getter a note about symptoms I'm seeing people around me who've been vaccinated, and I got 200 testimonials. | ||
| I did a video about it, just reading them, of people describing strokes, heart attacks, cognitive difficulties, you know, horrific outcomes. | ||
| Shortly after vaccination, and the themes emerge, there's so many blood clots, there's so many thrombotic events. | ||
| So I think that people are becoming aware that something's wrong. | ||
| But the mainstream media is so in the thrall of these, these, these entities, and the entities are coordinated at a very high level. | ||
| For instance, your producer this morning sent me a clip of someone named Dr. Erwin Red Lenner on MSNBC talking about how important it is to get people vaccinated, get people vaccinated. | ||
| Well, he's part of the Lancet COVID-19 Commission, which has a map as of February 2021 for lockdowns, border restrictions, masking, distancing. | ||
| These are groups coordinating at a high level. | ||
| So I think that what you see is, and again, the PRRI, Pandemic Resource and Response Initiative, Dr. Wolf, hang on for one second. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return with Dr. Naomi Wolf. | ||
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| But back then, anyone who refused to get vaccinated would get ratted out immediately because we knew that person could hurt other people. | ||
| The commonweal was a commonweal. | ||
| Now we're engaged in a similar struggle with COVID and Eisenhower would be aghast. | ||
| We have immunocompromised people who are incubators for every variant to come. | ||
| Walking around lawfully unvaccinated? | ||
| That's psychotic. | ||
| We have companies that have tried hard to get people vaccinated and now backing down? | ||
| We have governors who want to be president by grandstanding on a foolish state's right issue? | ||
| The right to get sick and get other people sick? | ||
| So it's time to admit that we have to go to war against COVID. | ||
| Require vaccination universally. | ||
| Have the military run it. | ||
| If you don't want to get vaccinated, you better be ready to prove your conscientious objector status in court. | ||
| And even then, you need to help in the war effort by staying home until we finally beat this thing. | ||
| That is, uh... | ||
| A guy with the biggest platform on the biggest big business channel going CNBC. | ||
| He has two shows, one in the morning and nine o'clock, one in the evening. | ||
| I think it's six or seven o'clock after the market's over. | ||
| Of course, remember CNBC is a network that is full of big pharma ads all day long. | ||
| Big pharma essentially in the financial industry that finances big pharma and sells the stocks, right? | ||
| If you watch CNBC all day long, that's what it is. | ||
| Dr. Naomi Wolf is the fix-in. | ||
| I mean, it's so If anybody on the right had said something equivalent to that, they'd be de-platformed immediately. | ||
| There's not even a question about it, correct? | ||
| That's why Getter, we're going to Jason Miller, Getter is so important right now to make sure you can't get de-platformed. | ||
| But Dr. Wolf, what is your response and observations to Jim Cramer at CNBC? | ||
| Yeah, as a Jew and the granddaughter of someone who lost most of her siblings in the Holocaust and as someone who knows history and as an unvaccinated person, what He's saying is terrifying. | ||
| And you're right. | ||
| And he's lying. | ||
| An unvaccinated person is no danger to other people any more than a vaccinated person is a danger to other people. | ||
| But it is a time honored technique to create an other. | ||
| And also, I just want to note to move markets. | ||
| I mean, the pandemic policy right where we're no longer in a pandemic, as the word was traditionally defined as widespread death and disease. | ||
| In Columbia County, where I live, it's 10th or 11th as a cause of death below suicide and opioid overdoses. | ||
| But for him to wage war against the unvaccinated and call for a military response, this is a kind of totalitarian takeover that we're looking at. | ||
| A few oligarchs are making double digit billions from these policies to You know, to drive markets up and down, to drive up pharma, to, you know, the Omicron hype is of a not very so far serious infection, is a gift to pharma. | ||
| You know, there's people making money from real estate, from betting against the reopening of offices. | ||
| From home delivery, Amazon is up triple digit billions. | ||
| So there has been a takeover of capitalism, you know, through a few insiders driving policy and driving fear and driving hysteria. | ||
| So in addition to him lying to his audience about the purported dangers of being vaccinated, I think these people also need to be investigated by the SEC because they are engaging in a kind of insider trading. | ||
| You know, if you're Bloomberg and you fund Johns Hopkins website and, you know, it announces ups and downs for COVID infections. | ||
| You know, you can make bets on the market if you know that information a few days before, a few minutes before Johns Hopkins launches the information. | ||
| So there's a lot of corruption here and he should be ashamed of himself. | ||
| Dr. Wolf, how do people to your site, how do they join in this fight at the state level? | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty serious and I just want to applaud the Republicans and two Democrats in the Senate. | ||
| Who have put forward a bill to protect us from vaccine mandates. | ||
| It'll probably be overturned by veto, but it's an important gesture, and more Democrats, and I say this as a sad Democrat, now independent, should join in and show that we are a nation of laws and not tyrants, not medical coercion along the lines of Nazi medicine. | ||
| So I'm on Getter, which I adore, at Dr. Naomi R. Wolf. | ||
| I am on Telegram at Naomi Wolf. | ||
| The Naomi R. Wolf account, which is huge, is a fake. | ||
| Please tell people. | ||
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| And thank you to this audience and to you, Mr. Bannon, especially for allowing us to do this important work of protecting people's rights from this appalling tyranny. | ||
| Dr. Wolfe, thank you very much. | ||
| Appreciate you taking time today to join us. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Let's bring in Jason Miller, the CEO over at Getter. | ||
| Jason, we only got a minute in this block. | ||
| We'll hold you through to the next. | ||
| But I got to tell you, you're doing the Lord's work over there to provide this platform. | ||
| You know, every person comes on, says their life has changed in social media since they've joined Getter. | ||
| What's your assessment of that? | ||
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| I mean, we were on the front lines in 2020 as COVID was raging on the scene and we weren't being allowed to tell the truth about it. | ||
| And even today, with having such fantastic guests such as Naomi Wolf, Going through the fact that we're moving toward this totalitarian state. | ||
| You know, one interesting thing, just to follow up on what Dr. Wolf was saying, if you take a look at the CDC Vax card, in addition to that first shot and that second shot that they had listed on there, they had two other categories listed for other. | ||
| So when Dr. Fauci talks about additional boosters, this is going to go on. | ||
| It's always been the plan, Steve, to have this go on in perpetuity. | ||
| Hang on for one second. | ||
| We're taking a short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back with my original co-host Jason Miller from the old War Room Impeachment Days, now the CEO of Getter. | ||
| We've got a lot of wood to chop in the next segment. | ||
| Also, we're trying to get in Jack Masovic. | ||
| We're going to go down to the border into Mexico with the one and only Ben Burcombe. | ||
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| I'll be back in a moment. |
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