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Episode 1,458 – Employment Collapses In America; Vaccine Mandates Coming To EuropeEpisode 1,458 – Employment Collapses In America; Vaccine Mandates Coming To Europe
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matt gaetz
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steve bannon
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ben harnwell
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mika brzezinski
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naomi wolf
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peter navarro
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anthony fauci
00:11
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jen psaki
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unidentified
Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
You don't want to frighten the American public.
unidentified
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
That this is going to be a real serious problem.
unidentified
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
unidentified
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
mika brzezinski
Let's talk about the Democrats.
Democratic pollster has issued a stark warning to his party heading into the midterms, which is this.
The warning is this.
Fix the branding problem.
Brian Stryker held focus groups with Democrats in Virginia.
After the party lost the governor's race there, and one of his main takeaways, people think the party is more focused on social issues when the economy is the top issue right now.
In an interview with the New York Times, Stryker says, quote, the number one issue for women right now is the economy.
The number one issue for black voters, the economy.
The number one issue for Latino voters is the economy.
I'm not advocating for us ignoring social issues, but when we think broadly about voters, they actually all want us talking about the economy and doing things to help them out economically.
economically. People drive by the pump. They know what the cost of a pound of ground beef is supposed to be or boneless, skinless chicken breast.
Those are the things they talk about.
Meat and groceries. Those are the things they really see.
steve bannon
Manchin's back on your point that if you start passing all this craziness right now, that you're just throwing napalm onto an economy that's already starting to, the prices are, and by the way, your, your thing on China is absolutely brilliant. Remember that's going to flow through the entire supply chain. The inflation there is 13%. What can people right now in the audience do about this, about preparing for this, Dr. Navarro?
peter navarro
I haven't put any money in the stock market since I entered government.
I purposely divested because that's what you do when you're in government.
And since then, I've been just in cash, watching this chessboard, not believing anything.
Tomorrow, I'm starting to go short on the stock market.
I'm calling it.
And this could be the December crash of all crashes.
Because the only thing that's driving the market up right now is a false hope about the pandemic turnaround that does that looks dicey given the supply chain things going on and and throwing more money.
On the inflationary fire, and that's got to come to a backfire eventually.
And I think, Steve, that's where we're at.
mika brzezinski
A lot of starting and stopping for people.
And just really quickly, I'll open up to the table, but this number is drastically less than expected.
What else do you think is going on?
And is it people who are still afraid of going back to work because of COVID?
unidentified
I think that's one factor.
And also, you know, we've had a lot of stimulus pumped into the economy.
So a lot of households maybe have a bit of a cushion.
And, you know, we know this pandemic has really kind of changed people's priorities.
And with that kind of cushion, maybe people are being a little bit more deliberate.
mika brzezinski
What is the number of that cushion?
unidentified
I don't know off the top of my head.
mika brzezinski
What is a number that would have people not decide, just, I'm not going to go back.
I need to understand that.
unidentified
Well, I mean, it's just, we've had stimulus checks.
We have the expanded child tax credit.
We have that kind of support out there in the economy.
And so some families may be able to say, look, I'm going to be a little bit more deliberate in my decision.
Maybe my priorities have changed over the course of the pandemic.
And I want to like, make sure that the job I'm taking is a good fit for me and my family.
This doesn't bode well for inflation, right?
Because if people are not going back into the labour force, the way you get them back into the labour force is you offer them higher wages, then people's prices start going up around that and you get into a wage price spiral and this is not what the White House wants.
Right, well, I think that economists will say that we're not quite in a wage price spiral yet.
No, we're not there yet, but this kind of number is the kind that will make people nervous.
Yeah, inflation is a really complicated issue.
There are a lot of reasons why it's happening right now.
Many of those are the supply chain constraints that we've seen because of pandemic disruptions.
And certainly wages are there too, you know, because of this labor shortage, employers have had to raise wages to attract workers.
So that's definitely a factor here. What you'll probably see the Biden administration say is that a number like this kind of supports their argument that Congress should pass the Build Back Better agenda, right?
If we want to see long-term growth in the economy and the productivity of the economy, then we need the sorts of investments that they've been pushing.
steve bannon
Okay, we apologize for a little bit of technical problem, but thank God we've got Congressman Matt Gaetz here to bail us out.
We're going to get Peter Navarro in in a second.
We just had a horrendous, horrendous jobs report.
Less than half of what they had forecasted.
And the forecast wasn't great.
It was only 500,000 jobs.
So, on Capitol Hill, the orgy of spending continues.
The Republicans folded last night.
I want to go to Matt Gaetz.
I understand the audience didn't see all of the clips, right, because of a little technical problem we had in Denver.
We had Mika about this.
A Democratic consultant did this branding study right after – or went down to Virginia to find out what went wrong.
And they found out it just wasn't Terry McAuliffe.
It wasn't even Joe Biden.
They have a branding problem.
The branding problem is they're focused on the wrong things.
People are focused on the economy, jobs.
Then, what we've had today, with all the spending going on, we had this complete collapse in the jobs, and they're blaming it on everything.
They're blaming it on COVID, they're blaming it on they gave people too much money, they're pointing fingers at everybody, but there's no consistency through their program.
So I want to go back, I want to talk about the jobs report today, your immediate assessment, and then we'll talk about the branding issue.
matt gaetz
Well, when you peel back the layers of the jobs report, the data is even worse because half of the people who are unemployed right now are not even seeking jobs.
So the different things that you can do with stimulus to try to bridge people presupposes that you're actually trying to bridge them to something that they are seeking, that they want to achieve, and increasingly the Biden war on work through mandates, through excessive stimulus, and through this cradle-to-grave approach to social spending that they seem to be advocating for I want to make sure people understand this.
steve bannon
Because it was mentioned the other day in some analysis that we've been doing, but it's out in the jobs report today.
Half the people out there are not even looking for work anymore.
And these are people, and this is not people towards the twilight years that say, hey, maybe I take off a little early, buy a RV.
You're talking in prime time when people have to be building careers, starting families, those sorts of things.
matt gaetz
You know where I see it a lot is in the military.
And we're going to see major readiness challenges in our military as a consequence of losing pilots in the Navy, losing instructors, not getting through the syllabus for people that need to be out there downrange.
And this is not the time in the world to be failing to meet our readiness needs and a lot of these mandates and a lot of the conditions that you see in the private sector, we also see in the military, we have to get to what happened last night and the Republicans folding.
steve bannon
Let me, right before I get to that, I want to say, because you've been at the tip of the spear about wokeness and making wokeness an issue and going after it.
The consultant clearly soft-pedaled.
He says we're focused a little too much on social issues.
What he found was shocking, though, to basically middle-class people, people who are either independents or moderate Democrats.
They don't want that.
CRT, this thing is so radical.
It's caught them by surprise and shock.
And everybody is so success-oriented with their kids.
They see in the education system, it's not focused on excellence.
It's focused on ideology.
So how deep is that in the Democratic Party?
How tough is it for Unwind?
And what should conservatives and Trump people and the Republican Party do to go after that?
Because that's an opportunity that's not going to exist forever.
matt gaetz
Our movement is the movement of multi-generational, multi-racial, working-class people who wear their name on their shirt, who love their country, and who take a shower after work.
And those folks are coming our way in droves.
And, you know, this consultant class, they always kind of come up with new ways to answer the same question the same way.
Every election is just about one thing.
Who will fight for me?
And right now people feel embattled economically.
They feel embattled when their kids are coming home saying that, you know, they've been told at school that they're frail or racist or oppressors.
And the realignment that's happening is real.
Now, just as you heard Mika Brzezinski talking about what Democrat pollsters and consultants are telling Democrats, I have an inside view into what those folks are telling Republicans.
steve bannon
The consulting class.
matt gaetz
Yes, yes, and you know what the Republican Party does in its various appendages is raise money from donors to then gather data to inform message and policy.
so the republican conference meets regularly to go over that strategy and i i must share with you at our meeting this week uh... we had upholster stand up and tell all republicans the only thing you should talk to be talking about is inflation it is the only thing you should be talking about if you're talking about anything other than inflation uh... you are damaging our chance to retake the majority and i do talk about inflation matter of fact eight months ago on this show i told folks that inflation was coming and the thing you wanted to be in most was debt because
you could pay off with cheap dollars that they were recruited eight months ago and and that is turned out to be totally true by the way gates ought to think about the second career because that was a great call that was back in the spring of this year right right but as i think as republicans while we have to show people that will fight for them it has to be more visceral people have to be able to feel it and all over america right now people feel like their vote was disrespected we've told people that their vote was precious that it was empowering that they could cast it for donald trump or republicans or
anyone that they thought would go and take on their battles and when what we saw happen in the twenty twenty election disrespected people's vote and i'd believe that if you do not continue to talk about election integrity You can talk about inflation until you're blue in the face.
People will not show up who are persuaded by our message if the delivery system for their action is not one that they see us valuing.
And it struck me as a little odd that in the survey of critical issues that Republicans should be addressing, the Republican Party didn't even put election integrity as an issue people could choose.
steve bannon
Hold on, hold on, stop.
Please stop.
It's been the top of the 3 November movement.
Even if you don't buy into the 3 November, we've got to get to the bottom of 3 November.
The whole thing of 2022.
And Yunkin's victory is because we had 95% of billets filled for poll watchers and for election officials, right?
So it couldn't happen again.
matt gaetz
In the conference Just think about how manipulative it is for the Republican leadership to stand up and say, we are here for our members to give us money to run polls that we then jerry-rig to manipulate the behavior and conduct of our members.
It was so bizarre.
steve bannon
Was that an act of omission or an act of commission?
matt gaetz
I don't know that I'll be called on too frequently at those gatherings, but when I was called on and I did ask the question, in the issue matrix, where did election integrity rate?
And the answer was, we didn't ask if people cared about election integrity.
And I asked the pollster, well why didn't you ask?
And she said, because people care about inflation.
Which seemed a bit predeterminative to me.
steve bannon
A little circular logic.
Let's talk about the conference and inflation.
Obviously it's the economy, right?
So drill down on that and how you bring, because you're one of the big tent guys as far as bringing more working class, working class Hispanics, African-Americans, Asians into this.
How does that happen using the economics of this movement?
matt gaetz
Well, right now there is hopelessness in the economy.
And, you know, Joe Biden is a person in decline, overseeing a country in decline, with an economy in decline.
And the reason we are tied with Hispanics today, which is unbelievable.
If you would have just thought about that during, like, Romney and McCain offered amnesty and weakness and got crushed with Hispanics.
And when we actually show up with a little bit of backbone and talk about border security, talk about building an economy, talk about fighting back against a BLM movement that is dangerous and violent and destructive, we win Hispanics with strength.
So I think that is the overall frame.
When it comes to economic policy, you know, I think that we have to get back to valuing work.
And I think we've got to also embrace some of these populist pro-family intersections with economic policy.
You got folks like JD Vance and Blake Masters out there on the campaign trail talking about the need to have policies that allow families to be able to survive on one income.
And that has cultural significance that also helps us with broadening that very tent.
steve bannon
If it's hopelessness and you've got a reckless and hapless regime here, you've got an economy that's hopeless, why in the last 24 hours have the Republicans actually, you know, propped up, propped up, propped up Joe Biden?
It's not me saying that.
If you look at the Hill, the least...
matt gaetz
You're like Charlie Brown and the Senate Republicans are like Lucy Linus.
unidentified
You know, every day you come on the show... Senate dodges initial December crisis.
steve bannon
You come on the show and you say... You know, last minute deal.
Senate averted a government shutdown that would have thrown President Biden's agenda into limbo.
Into limbo.
That's from the Hill.
How does Mitch McConnell... Why is it Mitch McConnell that bails out every time bails out Joe Biden?
matt gaetz
Well, because they work for the same uniparty.
Yeah, I mean, they work for the same uniparty.
Yeah, you always think that the Senate Republicans are going to stand and fight.
And by the way, I'm glad folks like Roger Marshall and Ted Cruz and Mike Lee did.
But isn't it sad how few of them there are who actually will?
And, you know, McConnell has presided over a regime in the Senate that continues to facilitate the growth of government, the administrative state, to service the elites.
And that's what we have to change to get to that big tent realignment you mentioned.
steve bannon
Okay, short commercial break.
Back with Matt Gaetz in a moment.
unidentified
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mika brzezinski
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But this number is drastically less than expected.
What else do you think is going on?
And is it people who are still afraid of going back to work because of COVID?
unidentified
I think that's that's one factor.
And also, you know, we've had a lot of stimulus pumped into the economy.
So a lot of households maybe have a bit of a cushion.
And, you know, we know this pandemic has really kind of changed people's priorities.
And with that kind of cushion, maybe people are being a little bit more deliberate.
mika brzezinski
What is what is the number of that cushion?
unidentified
I don't know off the top of my head.
mika brzezinski
What is a number that would have people not decide, just, I'm not going to go back?
I need to understand that.
unidentified
Well, I mean, it's just we've had stimulus checks.
We have the expanded child tax credit.
We have that kind of support out there in the economy.
And so some families may be able to say, look, I'm going to be a little bit more deliberate in my decision.
Maybe my priorities have changed over the course of the pandemic.
And I want to like, make sure that the job I'm taking is a good fit.
Okay, okay.
steve bannon
I've heard enough of the amaranth.
We apologize.
The cold open, the audience didn't get to see, but we had a bunch of stuff like this, Amika.
The jobs number is horrific and it's just gobbledygook.
Oh yeah, you know, we gave people too much money.
There's too much stimulus.
It's COVID.
It's Omicron.
It's all of it.
At the same time, they're up here to quadruple down on the spending.
Let's go to Peter Navarro.
Peter, you called this.
peter navarro
Months ago, but up to the last week said this is gonna be a disaster. December is going to be a disaster We just had gates here. It says the economy's hopeless Tell us what we're what really went on today. And what can people look to because you've called this stagflation issue Well the stagflation note here Steve is you got a decelerating jobs growth coupled with an announcement by the Federal Reserve chairman Jerome Powell that he is accelerating the tapering of quantitative easing
Meaning that interest rates are going to rise soon because of his concern about inflation So, slowing economy and increased inflation, that's stagflation.
Today's numbers feed into that.
You had employment dropping to 4.2%, but a big miss on the overall job numbers.
Historical comparison, Steve.
At the height of the Trump boom, February 2020, we were at 3.5% unemployment rate.
Today's looks like 4.2%, but when you factor in all the discouraged workers and the people who are part-time because of the circumstances of the pandemic, the unemployment rate is actually at 8%.
We've talked about these service sector refugees, how the pandemic hits the major cities like a neutron bomb, commercial office building vacancy rates are high, entertainment districts are being hit, metropolitan transit systems.
What we see in the service sector refugees, in the numbers, there's over a million these folks, and I think that's a vast underestimate.
Unemployed, and the unemployment rate there is about 8%.
All in all, this is not a very good-looking jobs numbers in the Biden regime's economy.
Stagflation's on the way.
I continue the short call I made on this show on November 10th.
You can see volatility in the markets, but at some point this whole thing collapses.
steve bannon
Yeah, fixes.
Okay, Peter, real quick, how did it get to you on Getter and Twitter?
peter navarro
Yeah, Real P. Navarro and PeterNavarro.com.
unidentified
By the way, we've got other Fauci stuff.
steve bannon
We'll get to you this afternoon about Fauci.
We got the big defense of Fauci on MSNBC last night, so we'll get to that.
The book is in Trump time.
Get it at Amazon.
We've got it up on all the sites.
Peter, thank you very much.
Appreciate it, brother.
peter navarro
Yes, sir.
matt gaetz
There's no backstop to what Peter just said.
All of the dynamics that Peter Navarro just laid out will continue to get worse.
Remember, this is what's happening right now before the big cash bomb of Build Back Better, before Pete Buttigieg puts $100 billion out on the street.
And so all of these kind of macroeconomic concerns that attack the dollar are going to get exponentially worse.
And I am a little ticked because I spent four years listening to Democrats tell me that because I defended Trump and the Russia hoax, That somehow I was destroying America's institutions.
I was Vladimir Putin's lawyer.
The most important institution in the American economy is the U.S.
dollar.
And they are crushing it.
And you look around the world at important sovereign wealth funds that dictate how effective sanctions can be.
How effective our soft hegemony can be.
And they are dumping the dollar.
steve bannon
They've created – by the way, they don't want crypto.
They've created crypto as a store of value.
They've created it because they're destroying the major financial institutions in our country.
OK.
In a situation of hopelessness and chaos, you think you want stability and really reflective thought and strategy, yet the Republicans are in total disarray.
Right?
And let's talk about this defense bill.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
How do we not have the defense bill already done?
How are we in December and it's not done?
And yet they're spending time on other things and we're allowing them to spend time on other things in the end that's not done.
Give me some inside baseball here.
matt gaetz
Chuck Schumer could screw up a steel ball with a rubber hammer.
You know, he has no management over the Senate and the 61-year record of passing a defense bill to support our military families, to modernize our military.
steve bannon
During Vietnam, during some of those contention, during the Reagan, you know, nuclear situation in the early, I mean, during the Obama years.
matt gaetz
Yeah, we would always pass the defense bill, but now we are at risk here.
We got our backs against the wall to not have a defense bill passed, and there is a belief among some of my very good friends in the House Freedom Caucus that we could hold the defense bill hostage.
They know they need Republican votes to pass the defense bill, so we could say, well, we're not going to pass the defense bill unless you accede to some other list of demands we develop.
The problem with that strategy, as I've explained to my Freedom Caucus friends, Is that the Democrats are just fine not passing a defense bill.
They're fine leaving our military in a position that is increasingly diminished in the face of a rising China.
I mean, you got China out there fielding hypersonic weapon systems now.
and because of the bureaucracy the pentagon because a lot of the cleanup that needs to happen over there but also because just the utter incompetence of running the government that we see out of schumer and by how do we get played into the situation that the defense bill doesn't take a priority over bill back better all is on the credit seven trillion dollars of of the napalm bomb on the dumpster fire of their economy
steve bannon
And why the Senate Republicans couldn't allow Pelosi to have to shut this government down and Schumer over the weekend and let him come back to the American people and make a presentation of why we should, you know, no more continued resolutions, no more kick the can down the road.
But how can Republicans sit there and allow Schumer now to hold the defense bill, the one thing we know we got to pass?
matt gaetz
Well, it was a total misunderstanding of leverage, particularly by Senate Republicans who had some, and by the House Republicans who crossed over and gave them the infrastructure bill.
We'd have had the defense bill done.
If we'd have killed the infrastructure bill, as we should have initially, we'd have gone right on to the defense bill.
We'd be now with support for our military, and the Biden agenda would be in shambles.
Frankly, it's in shambles because they're unable to execute on it, but they're going to have a bill.
I mean, Manchin's going to cave.
For all the Warren posse that are out there thinking that Joe Manchin's going to ultimately vote against this bill, totally.
He's worked on this bill in order to pass it, and he wants to pass his version of it, but the bill is coming that they're going to run on.
We just got word from Nancy Pelosi this week regarding the upcoming legislative calendar.
They're going to break historical records with the fewest number of legislative days in 2022.
Now you think if you had unified control of the government, if you had the House and the Senate 24-7, you would never go home.
steve bannon
Never go home.
matt gaetz
But instead they're actually shrinking the number of legislative days because they know this is it.
They know this is it.
steve bannon
They pass Bill Beckbrook and then they go out in the hustings and they just run on it.
matt gaetz
And that's why you saw Buttigieg and Kamala out there wandering around bus stops and train stations in North Carolina.
But the reality is none of the Capitol is actually going to improve those projects.
steve bannon
The reason we have Gates on here, he's a guy who can connect all these complicated dots.
But it gets back to the infrastructure bill of the 13.
Why have we not stripped those of their committee assignments, Congressman Matt Gaetz?
matt gaetz
Look, John Katko staying as the Republican lead on the Homeland Security Committee is like our leadership maintaining a shrine to losing.
I mean, it is a total failure, and it is demoralizing and discouraging to those who actually want to drive the agenda, who want to continue to lead this big tent realignment.
And I'm worried that if we took back the majority, we might not be worthy of it.
There are still people who think we can legislate and work with Joe Biden if we took the majority.
Here's what I'd do.
I would turn every single committee in the Congress into an oversight committee.
And if you want to be chairman of Homeland Security or Armed Services or Judiciary or anything else, you need to show up to the conference and say, what are the top three investigations that you are going to initiate into this corrupt regime?
And then those investigations should drive our action.
The notion that we're going to Hold hands in the warm spring rain and legislate with Schumer and Biden is totally nuts.
We have to go after these people.
We have to expose them.
And when we do, we'll get the power back and we'll be worthy of it.
And we'll be able to actually show people that we can utilize the apparatus of government for their benefit.
Marjorie Taylor Greene's interview on War Room recently about the era of small government being over.
That was really transformational, and that is a guide to our candidates all over the country.
We need to be running on the ways that we can utilize power to help people and to improve their lives and to battle their dislikes.
steve bannon
Real quickly, I know you're very concerned about this Ukraine situation.
You've got a minute.
Tell us, the defense bill's not passed.
Terrible symbol to the world, particularly the Chinese in Taiwan and the South China Sea.
What about Ukraine?
matt gaetz
Well, I mean, all over the world, people have analyzed Biden's weakness.
Whether it is, you know, China and Taiwan, or whether it is the massive troop buildup we are seeing in Russia right now, I think a lot of those small arms that were funneling to Afghanistan... Ended up other places.
They could.
steve bannon
Tell us about the podcast.
Tell me about why Vish is doing such a great job.
Your podcast was on fire when he was here.
I couldn't get any work out of him.
matt gaetz
I tell you, there's something about government service that seems to have inspired Mr. Burra.
I will tell folks, our podcast is Firebrand.
You can get it anywhere you listen to podcasts.
Folks really like watching it on Rumble.
And we're making the news, man.
There's nothing better than watching MSNBC and CNN wring their hands all primetime while playing War Room clips and playing Firebrand clips.
But we've got the whole War Room family of shows now.
We've got Posobiec's great show, Human Events Daily, we've got The National Pulse with Raheem, War Room, Firebrand.
It's your whole program, Will.
steve bannon
How do we get to your social media?
matt gaetz
At Rep Matt Gaetz on Twitter and at Matt Gaetz.
steve bannon
Okay, thank you very much.
Thank you for coming, Matt.
A real fighter.
The firebrand, Matt Gaetz.
Congressman from Florida One.
Short commercial break.
We're talking about Germany today announced, guess what?
They're going to a full lockdown on the unvaccinated and they're talking about mandatory vaccination just like Austria.
Dr. Naomi Wolf will be in here to break it all down for us.
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Germany will follow a move that Austria tried just a few weeks ago and put the unvaccinated portion of the population into lockdown.
What does that mean?
Actually, it means they will be restricted from going to places that are not essential.
So restaurants, museums, really your favorite pastimes.
Of course, Germany has had a struggle to get its vaccination rate up higher than about 65% despite the fact that many people have fled to go get those jabs in recent weeks as Germany has seen coronavirus cases get higher Lord knows what happened if he didn't partake.
But back then, anyone who refused to get vaccinated would get ratted out immediately because we knew that person could hurt other people.
The commonweal was a commonweal.
Now we're engaged in a similar struggle with COVID and Eisenhower would be aghast.
We have immunocompromised people who are incubators for every variant to come walking around lawfully unvaccinated.
That's psychotic.
We have companies that have tried hard to get people vaccinated and now backing down.
We have governors who want to be president by grandstanding on a foolish states right issue.
The right to get sick and get other people sick.
So it's time to admit that we have to go to war against COVID.
Require vaccination universally.
Have the military run it.
If you don't want to get vaccinated, you better be ready to prove your conscientious objector status in court.
And even then, you need to help in the war effort by staying home until we finally beat this thing.
mika brzezinski
Building on what we know works, we have seen and it is proven, it's not an opinion, it's not sort of political even, that mandates work.
jen psaki
Yeah.
mika brzezinski
How is that going to go, how is that going to happen?
Are we going to see mandates?
Are Republicans going to continue to fight this?
jen psaki
I bet they continue to fight it, no question about it.
I mean, we saw a group of Republicans just try to shut the government down because they don't think people should have to get vaccinated or get tested.
I mean, that's bananas and crazy, but we'll leave that over here.
But what we're working to try to do right now is implement these mandates, which are vaccinate or test, either option, very reasonable for businesses around the country.
steve bannon
Okay, you're back in the war room.
I want to thank everybody.
3 December, Friday.
unidentified
I want to bring in Dr. Naomi Wolf.
steve bannon
And here's the thing, CNBC's reporting this morning, Angela Merkel on her way out the door has announced not just the lockdowns for the unvaccinated, she said in February they're going to vote on mandatory vaccinations, just like in Austria.
Austria's won February, okay, mandatory vaccinations, and we told you here the last two days, watch Germany.
Germany's so important, because first off, Germany's expertise in this area, Watch Germany, the top universities, top research centers, they've now announced, Merkel's announced, in February, she's putting legislation out to be voted on that will be passed, okay, to do forced, mandatory vaccinations for the German population.
You called this, I don't know, a year ago.
We're now to the heart of it.
You saw they couldn't even muster only a handful of, you know, Republicans, 48 votes, but only a handful of Republicans stood up yesterday to force the vaccine mandate even to be brought as an issue on the floor of the Senate.
So, Dr. Wolf, where are we on this?
naomi wolf
You know, every morning I think I'm waking up in America and then I realize by 10 o'clock in the morning I'm living in An Orwellian dystopian nightmare, and that's where we are, but it's even worse in Europe.
As you noted, in Austria, you know, I feel like these are headlines from a fourth dimension of history that never learned from history.
In Austria, people who are unvaccinated are going to be locked in their homes, and if they don't accept this experimental injection, they'll be fined $4,000 or four weeks in prison.
And the exemptions, interestingly, are pregnant women and children.
dr naomi wolf
And we're not exempting pregnant women here in the United States.
So this is straight up Nazi methodology.
naomi wolf
And I really want to say something, and I know this is kind of a minefield, but I am the granddaughter of a woman who lost nine siblings to the Holocaust.
I am Jewish.
dr naomi wolf
I don't say these things lightly.
People are being attacked when they warn that this is Nazi medical policy.
But people have to reread history.
The Nazi Doctors, Racial Hygiene Medicine Under the Nazis by Robert Proctor.
These books show that it didn't start with Mengele and Mengele is not the only Nazi doctor.
It started exactly like this.
It started with the medical establishment aligning with policymakers to create second class status, non-citizens or sub-citizens, marginalize them, strip them of access to public spaces, access to professions, access to universities, And, and start to deny them things like, you know, enough food or enough medical care.
And that is literally what we're seeing.
And also life unworthy of life, right?
We're seeing the same sound bites recycled from the late 30s, you know, for Nazi Germany, people who are useless eaters, we're literally hearing the same arguments, you know, they're a burden on the system.
And I just want to say before we go on that it's shocking every day to have gatekeepers, influencers lying outright about the science, lying and lying.
naomi wolf
And Mr. Kramer, when I first heard that, I thought it was satire.
dr naomi wolf
I thought, oh good, he's satirizing this insanity.
But it wasn't satire.
Every time someone, and these are people in responsible positions, says the unvaccinated are a threat to the vaccinated, that is a lie.
Because over and over again, CDC, Rochelle Walensky, Dr. Fauci himself, Robert Malone, all the studies point out that vaccination does not affect transmission.
So, you know, All of you should be pulling money.
All advertisers should be pulling money from that network and letting the network know that that lie is lying.
Same thing with MSNBC.
It's just shocking to see that mandates work.
They don't work, and the data are in.
So I just want to say that, and then I want to go on.
steve bannon
The two things I want to go to.
By the way, do we have the clip from last night, Fauci, where he demanded the apology?
If we have that, let me know.
As soon as that's gone, let me know, and we'll play it.
I'll call for it.
The reason I want to start in Austria and in Germany, it's what I kind of called Naomi Wolf's dictum.
What happens in Europe three months or six months later is in the United States.
That's one of the reasons we cover Europe so closely in this regard.
Now you have major states.
Germany's not, this is not some sidebar Germany and Austria are kind of the main event.
You're talking about some of the greatest universities in the world.
You're talking about some of the most prosperous nations in the world.
You're talking about some of those productive people in the world.
People have to understand something.
Not just forced lockdowns for the unvaccinated.
Mandatory.
Vaccinations one February in Austria and Germany just said today when you call this we call this and just watch Germany They're gonna roll and now she's saying in February She's putting legislation up that's gonna pass and she's gonna do it before she leaves you watch They won't form some interim government until to do this and then you have Kramer Kramer is also not some marginal Internet guy with some blog site.
He's the single biggest personality on the biggest business news network in the biggest capital market in world history.
That would be New York City.
Okay, Jim Cramer is the number one guy.
He's got two shows.
He got a show at 9 in the morning at the open in the market.
He's got a show in the evening at the close of the market and he is calling for the military to come in.
And you have to take conscientious objector status.
Dr. Wolf, your assessment?
naomi wolf
I mean, you know, at these moments, I'm just angry and sad because, you know, we've been warning everyone for almost a year that this is exactly what would happen if people didn't unite and stand up for their rights.
And we're hanging on literally by a thread.
I mean, that's, you know, he's not freelancing.
I know how those networks work.
He's got his talking points.
They come from the top.
And, you know, it's a sounding it's a sounding note, you know, same thing with MSNBC when you've got, you know, two of the leading networks and gatekeepers saying, OK, deploy the military.
dr naomi wolf
These mandates work.
Why aren't you doing more mandates?
They are working from talking point.
naomi wolf
the talking points are usually from the administration or people even more senior than the administration. So I guess what I want to say is that I'm scared now in America and I want you all to be really scared because there's no more time to not see what's going on. When the president yesterday, President Biden said, okay, we're gonna, you know, have a quarantine.
dr naomi wolf
It's a trial balloon, right?
But that's how they work, where you have to like quarantine, vaccinated or not, positive test or not, for seven days after you travel.
And maybe we're going to restrict domestic travel from unvaccinated people.
And we're going to reinforce multi-thousand dollar fines on whether you're wearing your face thing.
you know, on a bus, you know, everywhere. That is a way to bring Austria to the United States. It's a way to bring Australia where people are beaten when they step out of their home or taken to quarantine camps against their will. That's how he's going to bring it here. You've seen this administration go around the Constitution again and again with their mandates.
Again, a mandate is not a law.
And so this is a way to get, you know, next you're going to see the National Guard.
I call it every time, right?
Next, you're going to see the National Guard or some, you know, meta para police civilian force, be the enforcers for show me your papers.
Why are you outside?
Are you unvaccinated?
naomi wolf
Or, you know, have you have you stepped out before your seven days are over?
dr naomi wolf
Oh, now it's 14 days.
Oh, now it's two months.
Why are you outside at all?
naomi wolf
And then the mandatory vaccinations and all of now, you know, like, I'm so frustrated.
dr naomi wolf
I've been saying for a year, this is not about the virus.
It is not about the vaccines.
It's about exactly what you're getting right now, which is a completely totalitarian system of full on social control, which strips all of us of our Western rights and liberties.
And so that's now, he's trying to do that now.
He tried to do it with the forcible vaccine mandates through OSHA.
Thank God courts so far have stood up to him.
I feel like right now it is only a few judges in the United States of America who remember what it means to be a free citizen in the West, let alone a citizen of the United States of America, and our entire fate depends on them.
naomi wolf
But now is the time to kind of rise up peacefully, organize peacefully, and save America from what is planned for it, clearly being unrolled for it, happening, you know, happening.
dr naomi wolf
I live in New York State.
We're in a state of emergency two years almost after, you know, a virus which is not even in the top 10 causes of death in New York State today as I speak.
naomi wolf
And, you know, our legislature is not convened in a normal way.
dr naomi wolf
You know, democracy is suspended in New York State.
People don't realize that there's emergency law in 47 states.
Massachusetts, Governor Baker, a Republican, by the way, this is a nonpartisan danger, right?
A transpartisan danger.
He's floating, you know, vaccine passports and coercion of this kind.
So this is not trivial.
It's not about whether you get to go to your favorite restaurant.
This is literally about whether you are going to be herded into a concentration camp or deprived of medical care left to die in your home.
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Because I can tell you what's in the stuff, but you don't know.
steve bannon
How do people bind together at the state level?
Your site's one of them.
How do they get to your site?
What are you guys fighting on and how do people fight back here?
naomi wolf
Sure thing.
dr naomi wolf
So thank God in America, our founders left us a check on what you're seeing in Europe.
naomi wolf
Thank God for them.
So we've been fighting state by state.
dr naomi wolf
And this is a proof of concept that is working.
naomi wolf
I usually say we have 27 states than 29 states.
dr naomi wolf
Today, we have 33 states that have passed state level legislation to to ban medical coercion, vaccine coercion.
And there's a lot of exciting legislation to to strip the federal government of this overreach, as well as attorneys general with lawsuits.
naomi wolf
So we at Daily Cloud are doing it through the legislation and we're now drafting bills to protect people from the overreach of these threatened quarantines and threatened interstate travel discrimination.
And I personally am talking to my lawyer.
steve bannon
Sorry, doing a counterfactual report.
How do people follow you on social media?
On Twitter, Getter, all that?
How do they get to you?
dr naomi wolf
Thank you.
naomi wolf
So on Telegram, it's Dr. Naomi R. Wolf.
On Getter, it's Naomi Wolf.
And most importantly, for our purposes, please keep supporting us, sending us your donations, even that $5, $10 counts so much because you're doing it in volume.
dr naomi wolf
It's helping us to pay our lawyers at DailyClout.io.
naomi wolf
We're going to keep fighting state by state and protecting your rights.
steve bannon
Dr. Wolf, you're a fighter.
Also have warned us all about what's happening.
Look at Austria, look at Germany.
When does Germany and Austria come to the United States of America?
We're going to go to Europe next with Ben Harnawa and find out in the War Room.
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Want to go to Europe now?
To Ben Harnwell.
Ben, you heard Dr. Wolff.
We played the cold opens.
We've said for a long time, Europe is three months to six months ahead of the U.S.
in these measures of what take place.
Get us up to speed.
What's happening in Europe, and particularly Germany and Austria, as they hurdle towards mandatory vaccinations for the unvaccinated within the next, what, 60 or 90 days?
ben harnwell
Yeah, outgoing Chancellor Angela Merkel, Steve, announced that she's going to be supporting the measures brought in to the Bundestag for legislation that will increase, which will implement these mandatory vaccines from February, which is It's only two months away now, we're basically in December so it's very very soon.
This will bring Germany into line with Austria which already announced last week similar measures and I have to say it also complements what's going on in Greece which have now introduced or they're going to be introducing mandatory vaccinations for over 60s.
I have to say here in Europe, even though I've already reported on the huge protests that are developing, it would be inaccurate to say that there isn't some degree of popular support for these measures.
We can see from the Swiss referendum last week, there was a 60% majority there in maintaining the government's restrictions in the face of people who wanted to remove them on the basis of infringement of liberty.
I have an observation to make here in the German case, which I think is directly related to what's going to take place in the United States in the future.
This doesn't start with Angela Merkel.
It starts with German Chancellor, if we zoom out a little bit, Otto von Bismarck in 1881, who introduced compulsory health insurance.
And here's the trick that the government does, right?
First it offers to give you something, which is health care, and then, I mean it may not be the next day or the next year, but then it will take and you won't be in a position to resist it.
Now, in America right now, as we all know, there is a generational debate taking place to do with the degree of health care that it is legitimate for the state to provide.
Americans everywhere should be extremely wary now that if they accept this apparently free gift From government with one hand.
The other is going to be a confiscation of liberties.
I repeat the direct line here.
In 1881, compulsory health insurance in Germany.
In 2021, compulsory vaccinations.
That's how it works.
steve bannon
Ben, I also want to, it's a brilliant point about Swiss, the Swiss people, shockingly 60% of the people were comfortable with these mandates and actually wanted to go even further.
The UnHerd, the great British site, actually had a reporter go over there, we'll put it up, it's about a 20 minute analysis he did, but he's actually in a cafe and starts talking about since he got to Switzerland he was shocked By the kind of upper middle class and the elites that were adamant and didn't want to hear any information at all, were not open to any debate, not open to any information at all about either the vaccines or the virus itself.
They were just adamant that, hey, these measures had to be taken.
The unvaccinated should be locked down.
And they were quite strongly for upcoming mandatory vaccinations if it happened.
I want to pivot real quickly to France.
A tectonic plate shift over there.
Huge announcement this past week.
Talk to us about this new leadership rising in France and this huge election they're going to have in May of 2022.
ben harnwell
A couple of days ago, on the 1st of December, Eric Zemmour announced his official candidacy for the Lycee Palace.
Now, this is interesting, I would say, without going into political observer gobbledygook, but this is going to move the Everton window.
This is going to move the needle on what is acceptable to say in polite society in terms of a political presidential debate.
Zamore introduced his candidacy.
I liked this.
He didn't have a press conference with the great and the good.
He did it.
He launched it on YouTube on a 10-minute video.
Now, obviously 10 minutes is going to be too long to recount to our listeners and our watchers, but I can quickly list here five of the key expressions that he used because, as I say, this is going to transform.
He may not win.
He may win, but it In any case, he's going to transform the debate in the French presidential elections.
So this is how he introduced his campaign.
He said that we're going to save France from ethnic substitution, which is a reference to the Great Replacement Theory.
He said there's no longer time to reform France, but to save it.
He said we're going to recuperate our sovereignty and we're going to stop feeling as if we're exiles in our own country.
He said, France is disappearing.
And finally, he said, I decided to take in hand our destiny, because both the left and the right have lied to us.
Now, there are strong parallels, I think, especially in that last expression with Donald Trump's campaign, which didn't appeal to the American people on the traditional left and right debate.
I've posted the adverts.
steve bannon
I tell you what, hang on for one second.
We're going to take a short break.
We're going to come back with Ben Harnwell.
We also have Rabbi Sparrow.
We've got Father McTeague.
We've got Julie Kelly.
Darren Beattie.
A packed second hour.
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