Dec. 2, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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This has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | |
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | |
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Jeffrey, it's Jonathan Lemire. | ||
| Good to see you again. | ||
| One point of clarification, though. | ||
| There's no vaccine requirement yet for any sort of domestic travel on planes or trains, right? | ||
| That's not in the cards at the moment? | ||
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The masking requirement is part of domestic travel. | |
| In terms of vaccine requirements, we're focused on implementing the vaccine requirements at the workplace. | ||
| It's very efficient and effective. | ||
| I mentioned before that vaccine requirements work. | ||
| The vaccination requirements are driving vaccination rates, oftentimes up to 98-99%. | ||
| So we're going to continue to implement vaccination requirements at the workplace. | ||
| So let me push you a little bit, though. | ||
| Why the hesitancy to require proof of vaccination for domestic travel? | ||
| That's something that especially with the rise of this new variant, we've talked to a number of public health experts, including some who advise the administration, who say that is, in their estimation, the very next step that should be taken to try to prevent further spread. | ||
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Well, we do, as I talked about, have those tight requirements on the international travel. | |
| We have the workplace requirements. | ||
| Jonathan will continue to look at all options and everything's on the table. | ||
| Boy, is that a running dog for Big Pharma? | ||
| Is that the PR department? | ||
| You're in the War Room, you're live. | ||
| Thursday, 2 December, Year of Our Lord 2021 as this city reels from a historic day yesterday at the Supreme Court. | ||
| We're not getting into all that. | ||
| Honored to have as my co-host for the first hour, Carrie Lake from Arizona. | ||
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Hello. | |
| Do you miss this? | ||
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This is a bit different. | |
| Not how I remember it when we were, you know, on a fancy set. | ||
| This is fly by the seat of your pants, but I love it. | ||
| It's the war room, baby. | ||
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This is it. | |
| It's great. | ||
| It truly feels like the war room. | ||
| Well, thank you for coming. | ||
| You're here for the hour. | ||
| Okay, we got Dr. Robert Malone. | ||
| Dr. Malone. | ||
| Omnicron, you got the fear porn all over, total meltdown. | ||
| We're going to have Fauci in a second talking about boosters, WHO, all that. | ||
| But first, I've got to ask you, what is going on? | ||
| What came out of Africa? | ||
| What do we know about it? | ||
| You know, they'd had such great statistics for so long as Europe and the United States reeled on this. | ||
| Tell us what's fact and what's fiction, sir. | ||
| So the cascade of events is first, there's this press about how Africa is doing so great. | ||
| And their case fatality rate is far better than the United States. | ||
| Then in local press, there was a reveal that South Africa was telling Pfizer to take its vaccines back because they weren't needing it. | ||
| The next day, we suddenly had this huge kerfuffle about this new virus strain. | ||
| And the press announced that this was coming out of South Africa. | ||
| There was an immediate reaction from Great Britain to shut down travel for most of the whole southern aspect of Africa. | ||
| Then the reveal that, in fact, it was first detected in Botswana in four fully vaccinated travelers, unknown where they were from or where they were going to. | ||
| Interesting that Botswana has close ties to China. | ||
| And then Then we start to hear from physicians in South Africa, yeah, we've got it in Johannesburg, but we're not seeing significant disease. | ||
| Then we had all of this press and fear porn being pushed out at us, often attributing this to South Africa, talking about how this has evolved in AIDS patients, everything except for the obvious, which is that this is a vaccine escape mutant. | ||
| or is certainly highly vaccine resistant. | ||
| Now we're in a situation where you've got this guy, I mean, can you believe that this is the guy that is our COVID-19 response coordinator? | ||
| I'm shocked. | ||
| This is not a mental giant that we're dealing with. | ||
| But right on the heels of that announcement and warning Joe, we've got the WHO saying, don't stop the rollout of the boosters. | ||
| And this gets to my point that I've been saying, the boosters are a perfect way to basically bias our immune system so we're even less able to respond to this new variant. | ||
| This is jabbing everybody with a flu vaccine from three seasons ago. | ||
| Okay, before I play, we're going to play Fauci and we're going to play WHO, but I got a question just to get people up to speed. | ||
| Is it your belief as a vaccinologist that has worked on this, and you've been very close to Navarro and Dr. Hadfield and the other people that worked early on on the vaccine in the White House, is your belief that this was, is this your theory of the case that this is driven somehow by this blunt force, everybody gets vaccinated, one size fits all? | ||
| Why did this happen now? | ||
| The 50 mutations around the spike protein, what has caused this in your mind? | ||
| So the question of what is this particular virus and what's its origin? | ||
| It has the hallmarks of a viral agent that has undergone tight genetic selection for evolution to escape the vaccine responses against the receptor binding domain. | ||
| The question that is outstanding right now is because this is so different from the other strains that are being tracked. | ||
| It's like in its own separate little evolutionary branch. | ||
| How did this happen? | ||
| And why is this suddenly popped up with all these new mutations? | ||
| That's the big unknown. | ||
| And, you know, as you know, there is a lot of speculation and discussion among scientists that are able to speak or willing to speak about these things. | ||
| about whether or not this is of natural origin, whether it is something that is just fermented in an AIDS patient, whether it is something that is the consequence of Africa not being vaccinated, and that's what's being pushed, is to make the case that somehow we have to carpet bomb Africa, which isn't having problems with disease from COVID for the most part compared to the rest of the world, whether we have to carpet bomb them with vaccines. | ||
| And above all of this is the looming specter of whether or not this thing might have been further engineered in some way. | ||
| Okay, okay, okay, okay, hang on. | ||
| Because there's a theory of the case that this came out of Wuhan. | ||
| In fact, we're advocates of this, not purposely, inadvertently, but came out of Wuhan as manufactured, wasn't found in nature. | ||
| It didn't come through a cave with a bat a thousand miles to the south of Wuhan, mysteriously get up to the wet market without going through any animal they've ever found, right? | ||
| It's absurd, particularly if you've been to the interior of China. | ||
| Yeah, you're speaking of the original Iceland. | ||
| Original but but why because we're having the diaspora the Chinese people miles grow GTV all the Anti-ccp forces throughout the world are saying that Botswana is very close to CCP I think Tiger Yang the the overall vice premier for foreign was actually in Africa in South Africa people are talking about And we don't want to drive any kind of just base rumors, but this thing looks more manufactured. | ||
| From a scientific point of view, the 50 mutations, what case could you make for it being manufactured and, on the other hand, not being manufactured? | ||
| So I'm not one of those that is carefully tracking all of these mutations, and I'm not qualified to speak on this, but those that are, there is a sub-cohort that are raising red flags that this genetically doesn't look like it's a part of the prior evolutionary process that we're seeing with many other strains. | ||
| And they're raising the prospect, I mean, we have to live in a world of multiple working hypotheses, we don't know what the answer is, and we shouldn't take anything off the table. | ||
| And one of the things that is on the table when you see something like this, that is genetically When people are applying algorithms to it and saying, where is this coming from, what is the precursor, and are raising concerns about this being an engineered pathogen also, I think we have to include that in our list of possibilities. | ||
| That's all I'm willing to say right now. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| Can we play the Dr. Fauci clip? | ||
| I think we're having a tough time. | ||
| WHO, Sky News, had the link to this issue about continued boosters. | ||
| That is now inoperative. | ||
| Nobody can pull it down. | ||
| So we're going to play the Fauci, and then we're going to talk about what WHO just said about boosters, because you saw in the morning Joe clip. | ||
| It's now, hey, you've got to get a vaccine passed. | ||
| We've got to get a vaccine to get it on Amtrak. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Or to get on one of these commuter trains in from New York City. | ||
| Let's play Dr. Fauci. | ||
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Americans right now are shopping for the best sort of booster or whatever they can get. | |
| And given the fact that manufacturers and scientists are racing to learn more about this variant and then to modify a vaccine that would more directly combat it right now. | ||
| First, for those who already received their boost, how long would it be for them before conceivably they could have a new modified booster that would more directly target this? | ||
| And is there any reason those individuals should wait, given the White House has said it'll be a couple of months, perhaps, before we have a more modified vaccine that more directly targets it? | ||
| Great question, because we get asked it a lot, and it's a relevant question. | ||
| So right now, I would not be waiting. | ||
| People say, well, if we're going to have a booster-specific vaccine, should we wait? | ||
| If you are eligible, namely six months with a double mRNA dose or two months with the J&J, get boosted now. | ||
| We may not need a variant-specific boost. | ||
| We're preparing for the possibility That we need a variant specific boost. | ||
| And that's what the companies are doing. | ||
| We have been, the administration has been in contact with the pharmaceutical companies to go ahead and take the steps in case we need it. | ||
| But the mistake people would make is to say, let me wait and see if we get one. | ||
| If you're eligible for boosting, get boosted right now. | ||
| Okay, we don't have the WHO, but WHO just came up right before we went on air. | ||
| Dr. Malone, do you want to say what WHO said Sky TV picked up, sir, about boosters? | ||
| It is announcing that WHO has now made a statement that the country should hold off on the boosters. | ||
| And presumably until that more is known about this variant. | ||
| Now, why would that be the case? | ||
| There's two reasons. | ||
| One is that they're advocating and have for quite a while for the phrase is vaccine equity. | ||
| The idea that looks like we've got a clip here. | ||
| The idea that we need to spread the vaccines throughout Africa, et cetera, and there isn't enough to go around. | ||
| And so We should stop hoarding it and over boosting people. | ||
| The other one has to do with this problem of original antigenic sin. | ||
| That if you give somebody a vaccine to an old strain, you'll bias your immune response. | ||
| Everybody understands how we can be biased by prior experiences. | ||
| The same is true with your immune system. | ||
| This idea of vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate And don't mention any other things like get your vitamin D checked and get that level up and drop your weight and none of that messaging. | ||
| Everything is all about vaccinations. | ||
| It is grossly naive from an immunological standpoint. | ||
| And I'm afraid that what we've got is a situation of bureaucrats making decisions without considering the science and the immunology behind this. | ||
| And they seem to be of a mindset To just keep hammering away at the same nail with the same hammer, and they're not stopping to think. | ||
| But the more they hammer, the more dangerous this gets, correct? | ||
| In multiple ways. | ||
| By implementing global vaccination, universal vaccination, they will continue to drive escape mutant development. | ||
| through the process that Charles Darwin identified called selection of the fittest. | ||
| This is not subtle. | ||
| Dr. Malone, real quickly, you've got about a minute. | ||
| You're going to be with us all the hour. | ||
| As someone running to be a governor of the state, is CDC, is it totally confusing of what they're trying to do or just too heavy handed? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I mean, look at the mandates and that are happening and people are losing their jobs over this. | ||
| And this is so concerning. | ||
| And I've been standing side by side with people. | ||
| I mean, you look at people, the airline pilots who are having trouble with with the side effects of this. | ||
| And you look at people who are having side effects, and nobody wants to talk about that. | ||
| And that's the concern, Steve, that people want to know what's going in their body, and they don't have a say in it right now because the government or their boss is telling them they've got to get this vaccine. | ||
| This morning, Joe, the White House, something more dangerous, not just employees, like the pilots, they're saying to get on that plane at Sky Harbor, you have to have a vaccine passport, you have to be vaccinated. | ||
| How dangerous is that? | ||
| It's going to get to that, where we can't travel. | ||
| And that's a problem. | ||
| That's a real problem. | ||
| And it's not going to happen. | ||
| We're not going to let that happen. | ||
| And we need to stand up and fight right now before that happens. | ||
| OK, we'll take a short break. | ||
| We'll be back with Dr. Robert Malone. | ||
| Carrie Lake, who's running in a Republican primary to be governor of the last state brought into the Union in the lower 48, Arizona. | ||
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Next in the War Room. | |
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| In some studies that I've read, natural immunity gives you 27 times more protection against future COVID infection than a vaccination. | ||
| And so we need to take all of the science into account and not selectively choosing what science to follow when we are making policy decisions in our state. | ||
| I've been a proponent of vaccinations and wearing masks when we need to. | ||
| We had the Delta variant raging in South Carolina. | ||
| I wrote an op-ed to my community and I've worked with our State Department of Health. | ||
| I've run ads encouraging my district to go and get vaccinated. | ||
| When we have these variants and we have these spikes, to take every precaution from washing our hands to wearing the N95 or KN95 masks more than the medical masks, there is a statistically significant Okay, this is why Jack Posobiec, the great Jack Posobiec of human events, he trended it yesterday, two-faced mace. | ||
| This is why, in the Republican Party, you have to stand for something. | ||
| It's about authenticity. | ||
| You can't go on CNN and say one thing and then try to go on Fox and say another. | ||
| There's a thing called the Internet. | ||
| This is probably a major announcement. | ||
| Germany just announced Full, complete lockdown. | ||
| Everybody, countrywide, for the unvaccinated. | ||
| Okay, Disclosed TV just brought that. | ||
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Unbelievable. | |
| We'll bring Dr. Mueller in a second. | ||
| Talk about that, but why do people, whatever your position is, if you're pro-vax, be pro-vax, but if you're hesitant and question, and you feel you have the data and evidence to back it up, This is about leadership. | ||
| Leadership? | ||
| I think this is what people are tired of. | ||
| People are tired of wishy-washy people. | ||
| The ones that are going to go so blatantly. | ||
| Go to the cheerleading squad of Fauci and these guys on CNN and say, hey, I've written op-eds. | ||
| You've got to get vaccinated. | ||
| And then go on Fox and talk about natural immunity. | ||
| Carrie Lake. | ||
| We need people with principles who stand by their principles, and this is why I'm running. | ||
| It's so irritating, and that's a nice way of putting it, to see this, because she runs as a conservative, gets in office, and then disappoints us. | ||
| And I'm tired of that, and that's why I'm running. | ||
| I was just asked, I was speaking to some business leaders, and one of them said, now how are you going to position yourself when you get to, you know, the general election? | ||
| And I said, I'm going to be the same person you see right now. | ||
| I'm not going to change who I am. | ||
| No pivot. | ||
| No, I mean, we're... So what are you... right now in... because Arizona's been all over the map with Ducey. | ||
| What's your positions right now on masks, vaccines, particularly... we got the thing that they're trying to vaccinate the five-year-olds. | ||
| What are your positions right now? | ||
| What will you do as governor? | ||
| I am anti-mask. | ||
| They do not work. | ||
| They're not healthy. | ||
| I had to wear a mask yesterday on a plane to get to D.C. | ||
| and I had headaches. | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| We've got bacteria sitting on our face. | ||
| It's unhealthy. | ||
| It's sadistic theater and I refuse to play into it. | ||
| I don't want our children wearing masks. | ||
| Mandates for employees and companies headquartered in Arizona? | ||
| We absolutely have to stop that and we need legislation right now and I think Governor Ducey needs to call a special session immediately I don't know what he's doing. | ||
| He's vacationing and what else he's doing. | ||
| We need to get our lawmakers in there. | ||
| We've got some decent legislation they could put on the governor's desk. | ||
| Give them two or three days, get it done, and save these people. | ||
| Because Steve, we're talking about working people who are being forced out of a job they want to work. | ||
| They want to put food on the table. | ||
| They're being forced out of a job because they're standing to their principles and saying, I don't want to get a shot at something I don't trust, I don't believe in, or whatever reason. | ||
| Arizona is connected directly to Berlin in this, Dr. Malone, because the slippery slope, the debates they're having at the state level and federal court, they're fighting these mandates, the courts are ruling against them. | ||
| It's all over the map. | ||
| This is a fight. | ||
| Everybody's at each other's throats here in the country. | ||
| And in Germany, Just like in Austria, and we said this on the show 10 days ago, when Austria announced the lockdowns for the unvaccinated first, then the unheard reporter went over there and said, hey, it's going to go for the whole country, and then they announced on 1 February mandatory vaccinations. | ||
| Now Germany's locked down the whole country for the unvaccinated. | ||
| Dr. Malone, you called this. | ||
| Tell us what shape Europe's going to be in, sir. | ||
| So Europe, as you know, is on fire. | ||
| The protests are taking off, the vaccine cards are tearing the society apart, and now this is completely validating those that have been previously considered to be conspiracy theorists that this totalitarian response by Certain countries with a history of totalitarianism was predicted and now it was rolled out. | ||
| So I suspect that this is the thing. | ||
| The thing about what Nancy Mace is saying with her kind of two-faced position, this virus will have its way with us. | ||
| All you can do with all the measures you could possibly want or implement is to delay it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And here's the other thing. | ||
| This is the best data that we have coming out of South Africa right now, is that this is not a highly lethal virus. | ||
| It is highly infectious. | ||
| It infects people who are previously vaccinated. | ||
| This is not a highly lethal threat. | ||
| This is a gross, gross overreaction. | ||
| And it plays right into the theme of what the heck is going on. | ||
| There seems to be an ulterior motive, because this doesn't make sense from a public health standpoint. | ||
| Well, look, you're a vaccinologist. | ||
| I want to drill down on this. | ||
| The difference now between kook, conspiracy theory, ban from all social media platforms, right, and breaking news is 90 days, right? | ||
| It's 90 days. | ||
| So ban from Twitter, Facebook, not invite to Thanksgiving because you're going to upset, maybe, okay, let's say 60 days. | ||
| Breaking news, 60 days. | ||
| What is the mentality? | ||
| You're a vaccinologist. | ||
| You're not an anti-vax guy. | ||
| You know, we got the Bobby Kennedy book. | ||
| You got all the anti-vaxxers, and God bless them, right? | ||
| I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but I'm very vaccine hesitant, okay? | ||
| Dr. Malone, you're a vaccinologist. | ||
| Just tell me, what is the logic? | ||
| What is the medical, scientific, data-based, evidence-based, Cartesian logic that has now, because I keep telling everybody, Europe is always ahead of us politically on populism, nationalism by about a year or two. | ||
| But on this situation, they're ahead of us about six months to three months. | ||
| Always. | ||
| Look, the German people are not dumb. | ||
| The German scientists are not dumb. | ||
| It's some of the greatest universities in the world, some of the greatest research universities in the world. | ||
| Austria is not dumb. | ||
| In Austria and in Berlin, what are they seeing to say we got a lockdown on the unvaccinated, and then we go to the next measure, which we're going to mandate a forced vaccination of everybody on a date certain. | ||
| Dr. Malone. | ||
| So what we're seeing in Germany, and I agree, some of the best virologists and immunologists in the world are based in Germany, full stop, there's no question about it. | ||
| What we're seeing is a split between those that are comfortable for whatever reason, or radicalized, and are willing to speak out against the government narrative, and this policy that is being implemented mindlessly by bureaucrats. | ||
| The logic is that the vaccines will provide for public health, And providing protection against spread of the virus. | ||
| The vaccines do not provide good protection against spread of the virus. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| And actually, it's quite clear you get better protection in the naturally recovered, in the naturally immune. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| What we've got here, in my opinion, is a group of bureaucrats that don't understand the science and they're frantic. | ||
| I use the term psychotic chickens. | ||
| They're frightened and seeking some way to respond to this threat, and they are just mindlessly implementing a policy that makes no sense. | ||
| Okay, but hold it, hold it. | ||
| What happens if they, but right now, right now, that's not the hill they're going to die on, because they're actually giving you the ground, because the guys coming out of Botswana in South Africa were vaccinated. | ||
| They're actually saying, aren't they, now the lockdowns are, aren't they saying that It may not stop transmissibility, but it's going to stop hospitalizations and deaths, and that's why you've got to trust us, and you've got to get vaccinated. | ||
| And in doing that, we're going to make it all travel. | ||
| Rail, airline, vessels, anything. | ||
| If you're going to travel in this country, you're going to have a job in this country, you're going to go to school in this country, you're going to go to a restaurant in this country, you're going to be vaccinated. | ||
| Because it's going to stop hospitalizations, cut hospitalizations, and cut deaths. | ||
| Dr. Malone. | ||
| So both natural infection and the current vaccine seem to be quite effective against death. | ||
| Natural infection is considerably better for preventing disease. | ||
| The vaccines do not prevent disease. | ||
| They do not prevent hospitalization. | ||
| The logic is deeply flawed here, but they're desperate. | ||
| They have no other options, they think, although the option that is there is staring them in the face, which is early treatment. | ||
| That this is the dichotomy that's become increasingly clear. | ||
| The madness underlying all this is they think that their only option is to vaccinate everybody with a vaccine that is designed for the original Wuhan strain. | ||
| It is grossly out of date, and it's basically gonna drive both patients and the virus into evolutionary places that are, they're wrong, okay? | ||
| They're maladaptive. | ||
| I don't know what else to say. | ||
| The European science community is increasingly radicalized in speaking out about this, and there's been a couple cases of whistleblowers that have committed suicide in Germany over the last month. | ||
| Dr. Moen, how did it get to your manifesto for your group? | ||
| How did it get to your social media? | ||
| How did it get to all of it? | ||
| Because basically the theory you're saying, if they keep this blunt force, vaccinate everybody, they're going to drive more, they're going to drive new viruses. | ||
| So how do people get to you? | ||
| How did it get to you on social media? | ||
| You've got 30 seconds. | ||
| www.globalcovidsummit.org. | ||
| We now have 16,000 physicians worldwide that have signed off on the Physician's Declaration and theunityprojectonline.com. | ||
| Also, social media, primarily Twitter, is a very active feed of data at rwmalonemd. | ||
| Let's get that everywhere across all platforms. | ||
| Dr. Mo, thank you for changing your schedule to be with us today. | ||
| Really appreciate it. | ||
| Historic day. | ||
| Lockdown Germany. | ||
| One of the greatest countries in the world. | ||
| Lockdown for the unvaccinated. | ||
| Everybody unvaccinated. | ||
| You are on lockdown. | ||
| In Austria, another great country, on 1 February, guess what? | ||
| You're getting vaccinated or you're not going to be in Austria. | ||
| Kerry Lake in the War Room next. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| If women are not able to make this decision, if states can take control of women's bodies and force them to endure months of pregnancy and childbirth, then women will never have equal status under the Constitution. | ||
| Julie Rickleman for the Center for Constitutional Rights today making it blunt. | ||
| You know, I mean, this really is about American women being forced by the government to give birth against their will. | ||
| I mean, this is what the supposed small government conservative movement has brought us, right? | ||
| This very big government idea. | ||
| The idea that the government will decide whether or not you get an abortion. | ||
| The government will decide whether or not you stay pregnant. | ||
| The government will decide whether or not you give birth. | ||
| It's not your choice. | ||
| The government gets to decide it. | ||
| On the other side of the court, Justices Stephen Breyer and Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor all pointedly raised the same issue today in slightly different ways. | ||
| Obviously there was long arguments, there was a lot of different points made, but I was struck by the fact that Sotomayor and Breyer and Kagan all made this point, questioned essentially their fellow justices. | ||
| About what it will do to the perceived legitimacy of the court if in fact they overturn Roe. | ||
| Not because that would be unpopular. | ||
| I mean, it would be very unpopular. | ||
| A large majority of the country says don't overturn Roe. | ||
| That has been true for decades. | ||
| It is still true now. | ||
| But the more liberal justices today effectively made this argument that the court is going to have a real problem on its hands if they overturn Roe, not because that would be an unpopular decision, even though it would be. | ||
| It would be a problem for the court if they overturn Roe because Roe is settled precedent. | ||
| Nothing about the country has changed since Roe. | ||
| That would meaningfully affect the terms on which Roe was settled. | ||
| Nothing about the Constitution has changed since Roe. | ||
| That would meaningfully affect the terms on which Roe was settled. | ||
| Nothing about science has changed enough to materially impact the way that Roe was decided. | ||
| None of those things have changed in any way materially that would warrant throwing out generations of settled precedent around which Americans have built their lives and their expectations for what it means to be a free person living in this country. | ||
| Because that's what this is about. | ||
| Moms and dads who love their children just want to make sure that they're being taught appropriately at school. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
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Hi, I'm sorry. | |
| I'm Stacey Barchinger with the Arizona Republic. | ||
| Can I just get one in? | ||
| You know what, you guys never cover Republicans fairly. | ||
| And so therefore I'm not going to interview with you. | ||
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Okay, the only question I have is there are parents on the other end who say that they don't want politics in the service. | |
| You don't cover Republicans fairly. | ||
| You cover Democrats and you gush all over them and you love on them. | ||
| You cover Republicans terribly. | ||
| It's wrong, it's biased, and I will not do an interview with you. | ||
| If you would like to start being a real newspaper that actually covers people who are Republican fairly, then I'm happy to talk to you. | ||
| But it's garbage. | ||
| The op-ed page over there is garbage. | ||
| And I'm not going to talk to you. | ||
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Okay, well you certainly know there's a difference between the op-ed page and the news reporting page. | |
| I know it in your news reporting page. | ||
| Not very factual. | ||
| I read an article and 90% of it was not factual. | ||
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Which one? | |
| It was about me. | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| That goofball that writes for your media. | ||
| That guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When you want to start covering news fairly at the Arizona Republic, I'd be happy to do an interview with you. | ||
| But I'm really tired of the garbage you're putting out. | ||
| People read that and they trust you guys. | ||
| And you don't cover people fairly. | ||
| You cover liberals one way, and you cover Republicans another way. | ||
| And we're tired of it. | ||
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How are we supposed to cover you fairly if you won't talk to us? | |
| This is the first time you and I have met. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Start doing some fair reporting where it's balanced. | ||
| And I'm not asking for you to be a cheerleader for me. | ||
| But cover me fairly. | ||
| It's wrong what you're doing. | ||
| And you're trying to poison the people of Arizona against Republicans while you cheerlead for people on the left. | ||
| And it's wrong. | ||
| I'm a journalist. | ||
| I'm a journalist at heart. | ||
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I know what it's like to be on that side. | |
| The only observation I would make is I think the Arizona Republic's editorial page is the front page. | ||
| I think it's editorial. | ||
| It's all editorial, but let me go back to Matta for a second because you're running for governor and you see what you're up against and I think people admire the fact that you're not going to back down from these guys. | ||
| You're going to get right in their grill, right? | ||
| Not many people out there are going to take on the Arizona Republic, the most powerful paper in the state that can make or break people. | ||
| Is it really? | ||
| I think people are starting to flee this mainstream media. | ||
| I mean, really. | ||
| When I say garbage, that's not hyperbole. | ||
| It's all opinion. | ||
| They cannot write a story about a Republican without a slant on it. | ||
| And so I think people are starting to push away from that. | ||
| Their subscription rate is really bad, really low in Arizona. | ||
| So I don't know if it's the most important. | ||
| I agree with you, but is there a conservative paper in Arizona? | ||
| The one at Tucson's actually worse, isn't it? | ||
| My point is the whole media there is pretty liberal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For a conservative state. | ||
| Because I don't think it's a swing state. | ||
| I really wish, Steve, that somebody who loved this country Would buy up one of these papers and just... Again, Republicans aren't asking to be, you know, to get what... We're not asking to be treated with favoritism. | ||
| We just want fairness. | ||
| And I wish somebody who loved this country would buy some of these papers. | ||
| There's got to be somebody out there making a fortune in the stock market. | ||
| Sell some stock, buy a paper. | ||
| So you can lose a fortune? | ||
| No, because I think, I believe... You say it's a big audience out there. | ||
| Arizonans want some factual news. | ||
| Let's talk about the facts. | ||
| Rachel Maddow. | ||
| Her initial meltdown, there's two things. | ||
| Number one, the whole thing last night on her show and all on MSNBC was all emotional, not about legal theory. | ||
| And in fact, I think the justices, the liberal justices embarrassed themselves yesterday. | ||
| It was all emotion. | ||
| You know, Sotomayor said, the stench if we overturn Roe will never leave the court. | ||
| And they're talking about, you know, the court will be destroyed if it overturns Roe. | ||
| But what Rachel Maddow, and then we're talking about their biggest fear, is it gets turned back to the states. | ||
| Where it should be. | ||
| Okay, let's talk about that. | ||
| As governor, are you open to the abortion situation, Roe coming back to the state legislature and letting those guys be in charge? | ||
| I mean, what is your theory of the case here about life? | ||
| I think if you take the emotion out of it and just look at it, that we had judicial judges making the decision where it should be with the people. | ||
| And the people of Arizona, the people of whatever state you're representing, should have a say in this, and their legislators who are representing them should be making these laws, not a bunch of justices at the Supreme Court. | ||
| So I believe it should come back to the state level, and that way we the people are being heard. | ||
| So let's talk about, not just the primary, but when you run in the general. | ||
| Let's say it's Katie Hobbs. | ||
| Give me the outline of what that race is going to be about. | ||
| What does MAGA stand for in Arizona? | ||
| What are the things that are going to drive, not just the race, but what's going to drive the state to go forward? | ||
| And what's your counter argument to what they're going to say with more government spending, open borders, you know, the typical thing that Katie Hobbs is going to argue, the MSNBC point of view. | ||
| What is the alternative case? | ||
| That Carrie Lake's putting forward as kind of, hey, this is what MAGA stands for. | ||
| This is where I want to take Arizona. | ||
| I think MAGA. | ||
| I love how you say it. | ||
| I always say MAGA. | ||
| That's because I have a Midwestern background. | ||
| Is it MAGA officially? | ||
| I think it's either way. | ||
| I call it America first. | ||
| And and it's been demonized in the press because the press really hates President Trump. | ||
| It just means putting the people of your state first, putting the interests of the people of your state first. | ||
| And we haven't been doing that. | ||
| And I believe one of the things we have to do initially is deal with our elections. | ||
| We need to bring faith back into our elections. | ||
| Right now in 2016 we had the Democrats losing their mind over the election and in 2020 we've got proof now with the forensic audit that we had corruption and we had fraud in our election. | ||
| So having done a full forensic audit in Maricopa County, which I still think is kind of the first of it, so much more to find out there, and other counties You know, talking about Pima, Pinal, others. | ||
| And there's, I think, big corruption, I think, in Pima. | ||
| People are looking and saying, hey, you're almost going to go back now into session. | ||
| So you're beyond a special session. | ||
| And it looks like the Senate is not going to move to decertify this. | ||
| So aren't they going to lose, aren't people going to lose faith that even after you do a forensic audit, That there's no ability to actually right the wrong, or at least go on record and say, no, these electors were not certified in the appropriate way. | ||
| They've got to be decertified because we've seen what the corruption was, what the stealing was, and we can point to it vote by vote. | ||
| And by the way, we won't let it happen again in 22 and 24, but that's for the future. | ||
| Today, now, and if they see Arizona's Senate Being unable to do it. | ||
| How are you going to motivate people to come out in 2020? | ||
| You're going to lose 10 to 20 percent if people are just going to say, hey, I love you guys. | ||
| It sounds great, but my vote doesn't count. | ||
| I think actually, by putting me on the ballot, I mean, I have a movement, we have a movement in Arizona. | ||
| We have people who have never voted coming up to me, holding rallies with thousands of people there. | ||
| There's a movement afoot in Arizona. | ||
| People are sick of the corruption, and they're going to come out with me on the ballot. | ||
| And I'm just representing the people. | ||
| And this is what America First is about, bringing the power back to the people, giving our government back to the people. | ||
| You know, we've got parents right now in Scottsdale, Arizona, who are being spied on by their school board because they want to know what's happening with the curriculum. | ||
| They want to know what's happening in their kid's school. | ||
| So we need to, we've got a corrupt system. | ||
| I believe that our campaign will bring people out by droves to the election, to the ballot box. | ||
| And when we see that, it's going to, I always say we have to win by a mile to win by an inch with the way our corrupt elections are running. | ||
| But we've got to have somebody on the ballot who's going to bring people out on election day. | ||
| And we're not going to see that with some of these career politicians. | ||
| I'm representing the people of Arizona. | ||
| I'm in this because I want to bring the government back to them. | ||
| And when we're done winning this election... But how do you bring the heat now When the legislator, I think it comes back in January in Arizona, how do you bring the heat now to move to decertify this given the information's there? | ||
| Because what you're saying, you're still, you're predicating that on, hey, I can do it, vote for me in 22. | ||
| 22 is already great. | ||
| No, you're saying, what do we do right this instant? | ||
| Well, I mean, we've got to keep the pressure on. | ||
| We've got to keep the pressure on these lawmakers. | ||
| How can Republicans in the Senate, your Attorney General, You know, the Attorney General that will report to you, eventually, or the office, and how can the Senate just sit there on what they've seen and not take any action? | ||
| I don't know how they live with themselves, but we need to have enough votes, obviously, to make this happen. | ||
| And so we've got some real fighters, like Wendy Rogers in there, Sonny Borelli. | ||
| We've got some fighters in there, but they've got to have the votes, obviously. | ||
| The key is we need our Attorney General Mark Brnovich to do right here. | ||
| And by doing right, he's got the facts before him. | ||
| We have on videotape three people who deleted millions of files, election files. | ||
| The problem in Arizona is the same problem you have in Georgia. | ||
| In Arizona you have Phoenix, a rising global city, with corporate hit Truly. | ||
| Sky Harbor is part of that. | ||
| Same thing, you've got that airport in Atlanta, made Atlanta – I'm a southerner – made Atlanta the city in the south and a global city having Olympics. | ||
| Those global corporatists. | ||
| They have zero interest in decertifying this election. | ||
| They have zero interest in MAGA. | ||
| They have zero interest in, in fact, they're the ones that don't mind. | ||
| That's why they're attacking people like me. | ||
| They don't want people, they don't want MAGA. | ||
| So how do you take, how do you take the torch to them and say, hey, my point is there's not going to be movement. | ||
| Until somebody forces movement. | ||
| They're not just going to sit there and go, Carrie Lake, you're wonderful, you're intelligent, you're smart, and here's the keys. | ||
| Just do it. | ||
| How do you make it happen now? | ||
| We've got 30 seconds. | ||
| Okay, well I'm not the governor right now, but I can tell you what I would do in 22. | ||
| Right now what we need to do is put pressure on our current leadership. | ||
| I don't know if that's even the right word because they're not leading very well. | ||
| We need to put pressure on Mark Brnovich to do something about it. | ||
| He's got the facts. | ||
| Let's see some arrests. | ||
| I want to see people in cuffs. | ||
| Oh, you're hardcore. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I mean, I really do. | ||
| You think it's okay to steal an election? | ||
| I don't think it is. | ||
| I like where you're going with this. | ||
| So I don't have the power right now. | ||
| I'm going to ask you a question and we'll answer it over the break because we're out of time. | ||
| Who's the first person to shoot the perp walk? | ||
| War Room. | ||
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| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| We return from break. Kerry Lake running for governor of Arizona. Be back in a moment. | ||
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| By the way, I want to give a shout-out to Michael Patrick Leahy in the Arizona Sun-Times. | ||
| It's not in print, but it's online. | ||
| That is a conservative paper. | ||
| Everybody should go to Arizona Sun-Times, and they do a very even-handed job of covering all the candidates. | ||
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I agree. | |
| They're good. | ||
| That's one of the good ones. | ||
| I'm going to bring in Jane Timpkin from Ohio. | ||
| Jane, you've got breaking news here. | ||
| We've got a new poll up for you. | ||
| Pretty explosive. | ||
| Walk us through these poll numbers, and this race is coming down to Is it Josh Mandel, J.D. | ||
| Vance, and yourself? | ||
| We're seeing a break in that? | ||
| Maybe Gibbons? | ||
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Well, we're seeing that my campaign is surging. | |
| The momentum is on my side. | ||
| I'm clearly in striking distance of the lead. | ||
| I've really increased in the last month in Ohio, and that's because Ohio voters are waking up and looking at this primary and saying, who's the real MAGA candidate? | ||
| And when you look at my opponents, Josh Mandel, who I would say has been a carnival barker and a shapeshifter who's run for 20 years and claims to be the Trump of the career. | ||
| But look, Jane, if you want to be a Trump of the career, you've got to be in the ballot. | ||
| Where were they four years ago? | ||
| Where were they in 2020? | ||
| Okay, so hang on. | ||
| So Club for Growth came out for the poll. | ||
| You were a little behind on the Club for Growth, but let me just make a comment on this poll. | ||
| You've got your surging, you've got Mandela 21, Timpkin at 17, Gibbons at 13, J.D. | ||
| Vance at 10. | ||
| Compare and contrast. | ||
| We've got a couple minutes here. | ||
| You've got Josh Mandel who's gone full beast mode, right? | ||
| Josh is full beast mode. | ||
| You've got J.D. | ||
| who's kind of the Josh Hawley, more of the cerebral populist going against the woke corporations and very anti-corporate. | ||
| And you've got Timken. | ||
| And Gibbon's kind of ill-defined today, but you've got Timken. | ||
| So make the argument between beast mode and cerebral populist Where do you fit in? | ||
| And since MAGA has done such an amazing job of turning around Ohio and really making that not a battleground state anymore, but a solid Trump state, a solid MAGA state, where does Timken fit in there? | ||
| And how do you win this? | ||
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Well, I win this because I'm the real MAGA candidate. | |
| And I make the point that where were J.D. | ||
| Vance and Josh Mandel in the 2020 election? | ||
| You know, when President Trump needed me to take on John Kasich What? | ||
| and oust his GOP chair, I did. | ||
| When President Trump needed me to deliver Ohio by eight and a half points in 2020, I did. | ||
| I focused on election integrity, and I've been fighting for the America First agenda for years, and these guys are Johnny-come-latelies, and you know what? | ||
| Ohio voters are smart, they know the story, they know what's happening, and they wanna have someone they can trust. | ||
| Been listening to them. | ||
| Jane, when are we going to have a forum with you, JD, and Josh Mandel, and a three-way throwdown, and get this all on the table? | ||
| We were proposed, we'd love the War Room to do it, and just you three, boom. | ||
| Timken, Mandel, and Vance, kind of the top tier, right? | ||
| And have a throwdown. | ||
| Are you open for that? | ||
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Well, bring it on. | |
| I'm never back down from a fight. | ||
| I'm a rugby player. | ||
| I played rugby in college. | ||
| Hey, I'm not afraid of the mud. | ||
| Tough hombre. | ||
| Jane, how do people find out more about you and more about your campaign? | ||
| We've got this breaking news now, this poll, all on our platforms and putting it out on all our social media to push it out. | ||
| So how do people find out more about you? | ||
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JaneTimkenForOhio.com and JaneTimkenOH on Twitter. | |
| I think it's the toughest race in this country right now. | ||
| The Ohio Senate primary is the toughest. | ||
| And there's some pretty tough races. | ||
| We've got Kerry Lake in the studio today. | ||
| But the Ohio primary, you've got some pretty tough, impressive people. | ||
| Jane Timpkin, keep fighting. | ||
| Honored to have you here, ma'am. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| Jane Timpkin in Ohio. | ||
| And we'll get that poll up. | ||
| There was a Club for Growth the other day. | ||
| I had a slightly different take on it, but this stuff's a little bit starting to solidify. | ||
| We have some good polling, by the way. | ||
| You've had some very good polling. | ||
| But first off, you're leaving me hanging. | ||
| Who should be arrested? | ||
| You're throwing bombs about, you want to see people in cuffs. | ||
| So who's in cuffs, Carrie Lake? | ||
| But let me ask you really quick. | ||
| This is going to make news. | ||
| Do you think that fraud in the election, that people should just walk free if we find out who committed the fraud? | ||
| I know you don't. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I don't know why Brnovich is not rolling on this. | ||
| We have video, allegedly, I'm told this and we've all heard this, we have video showing Maricopa County poll, not poll workers, Maricopa County election workers deleting files. | ||
| That's a crime. | ||
| Start with arresting them and say, hey, you want to talk? | ||
| Do you want to tell us who ordered you to do that? | ||
| Okay, you want to roll it up. | ||
| But those are the grand dunes, right? | ||
| That's the worker bees. | ||
| When they find out what the prison sentence is... What about Katie Hobbs? | ||
| Give me Katie Hobbs. | ||
| You're going to run against her. | ||
| She was in charge of this. | ||
| Is she responsible? | ||
| Is she ultimately... does the buck stop with Katie Hobbs? | ||
| Katie Hobbs, Adrian Fontes, all of the people in these counties, if we find out there's fraud and they were in charge of the election... Are you tough enough to beat Katie Hobbs? | ||
| Hell yes! | ||
| Seriously! | ||
| Because that's what it's going to come down to, don't you think? | ||
| I'm tough. | ||
| This person is a racist. | ||
| They like to throw that term around. | ||
| Katie Hobbs? | ||
| They like to throw that term around. | ||
| Why is Katie Hobbs a racist? | ||
| Two federal court verdicts found that she was a racist. | ||
| She fired a worker based on her skin color. | ||
| And now the state is paying $2.75 million to the woman that she fired. | ||
| There were two verdicts that said that she was a racist and that she discriminated against this woman based on the color of her skin. | ||
| So, that's confirmed. | ||
| Now, they like to throw that term around when it comes to Republicans all the time. | ||
| You know, she's a patron saint on MSNBC. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because the election has not been decertified in Arizona. | ||
| Katie Hobbs, to them, delivered. | ||
| They're going to have a Bretourian guard around her in the media. | ||
| But they're turning on her. | ||
| They're turning on her, Steve. | ||
| The media is turning on Katie Hobbs. | ||
| They're very worried. | ||
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Until that's decertified, they're not going to turn on her. | |
| How do people get you? | ||
| I know you've got a balance. | ||
| K-A-R-I-L-A-K-E dot com. | ||
| And how about social media? | ||
| How do people follow you? | ||
| They can find me at Keri Lake as well. | ||
| I'm KeriLake.com and I'm at Keri Lake on Twitter. | ||
| I'm at TheKeriLake on Facebook. | ||
| Apparently somebody has my name. | ||
| I'm endorsed by President Trump. | ||
| I'm endorsed by Congressman Gosar. | ||
| I'm endorsed by Mike Lindell. | ||
| I'm endorsed by General Flynn. | ||
| I'm endorsed by Rick Grenell. | ||
| These are the America's first patriots. | ||
| That's a pretty impressive list. | ||
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I was waiting for Steve Bannon's endorsement. | |
| Come on, Steve! | ||
| That's what we love about you. | ||
| Carrie Lake, thank you for coming back. | ||
| Thank you for coming in. | ||
| She's busy today. | ||
| Okay, Russ Vogt, we're going to talk about this fiasco, the orgy of spending that's collapsing Washington, D.C. |
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