Dec. 1, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| This infringement on women's rights, on our privacy, on the attempt to have state control of our personal health, really is what we would see in an authoritarian state. | ||
| It's not what we would expect in New Hampshire. | ||
| I think if you want to see a revolution, go ahead, outlaw Roe v. Wade, and see what the response is of the public, particularly young people. | ||
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| We're on the eve of one of the most important days in the modern Supreme Court history tomorrow, this epic argument about Roe v. Wade, and we're very honored to have one of the most I think dedicated individuals in this country about life. | ||
| It's Father Frank Pavone from Priests for Life. | ||
| Thank you, Father Frank, for being here. | ||
| It's great to be with you, Steve. | ||
| Before I get into the technical details, and you've allocated time, I know you're wanted everywhere today, and we thank you for addressing the war on Mars, particularly our international audience in Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Japan, mainland China, everywhere, and the diaspora, the Chinese people that are very focused, particularly our massive Chinese audience, because of the abortions there. | ||
| I want to go into how we got here, but I've got to address Senator Shaheen, the opening there from today, essentially saying that if this is overturned through the arguments tomorrow, in the coming months ahead when they come back and render a judgment, That there will be a revolution among young people, and she's kind of like okay with that. | ||
| Your thoughts? | ||
| You know, Stephen, this is the kind of fear-mongering the other side is trying to do right now, because the reality is just the opposite of what she said. | ||
| She's talking about authoritarian state takeover of women's health. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| The takeover was Roe v. Wade. | ||
| It took out of the hands of the people The ability to legislate on abortion, the ability to protect those babies in the womb. | ||
| What we're hoping the court will do as a result of these arguments tomorrow is return that power to the people. | ||
| To say to Mississippi, out of which this case arose, because they passed a law saying 15 weeks is when we start protecting these babies in the womb, which by the way is a way more, allows way more abortions than most countries in the world right now, okay? | ||
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15 weeks. | |
| Mississippi should be able to do that, and any other state, by the elected representatives accountable to the people, should be able to pass the kind of abortion policy they want. | ||
| Instead, Steve, what's been happening is, for 50 years now, we've had unelected judges impose on us our abortion policy, which in the United States is about the worst of any nation. | ||
| Throughout pregnancy, these babies are killed. | ||
| Worse than anywhere in Europe. | ||
| Most people don't know that. | ||
| Worse than anywhere in Europe. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Even how secular Europe has become, and away from the church. | ||
| Our abortion is much worse than... It's much worse. | ||
| The Mississippi Law, which of course would radically improve the United States policy, is worse than 47 out of 50 European nations who most of them protect these babies starting at 12 weeks. | ||
| And all we're saying is, hey, Mississippi is trying to protect them at 15 weeks. | ||
| But to the senator's point, it's not authoritarian control. | ||
| It's giving control back to the people and their elected representatives. | ||
| Right now, judges don't know what to do, legislators don't know what to do, because the quote, guidance, that's been given by Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey, is so confusing, so inconsistent, so self-contradictory, that they don't know, if they pass a law, they don't know what the court's going to say about it. | ||
| So we're in a situation here where Mississippi is saying, hey, let us legislate. | ||
| In this case, for the first time, we have the biggest number of sitting members of Congress asking the court to reverse Roe v. Wade than we have ever had before. | ||
| We have hundreds and hundreds of state legislators who have submitted briefs in this case saying, hey, let us legislate. | ||
| That's what we were elected to do. | ||
| Let us do it! | ||
| The court's not letting them do it. | ||
| Okay, I want to go back in time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because you've not only dedicate your life to Christ, dedicate your life to the church, in your career you also then turned and dedicate your life to the unborn. | ||
| To the unborn. | ||
| Walk us through that, because Place for Life is, and you're, and this is why we're so honored to have you on today, you're kind of like for many years, many decades, the man, right? | ||
| If you had to go somebody, because this fight Had many dark decades. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Decades. | ||
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Oh yes. | |
| That's what I'm trying to tell people. | ||
| When you're in a fight, every day is not going to be sunshine. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| You're going to go through a long time, sometimes, where you feel like you're losing. | ||
| We had the Clinton years. | ||
| The Obama years. | ||
| Cardinal O'Connor, one of my heroes, he was the chief of chaplains when I was a naval officer. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And a great man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He ordained you? | ||
| He did. | ||
| And then you went to him? | ||
| Did you set up Priest for Life while he was there? | ||
| Walk us through it. | ||
| You know, it's an interesting story because he started the Sisters of Life, as you know. | ||
| For him, abortion was the number one issue. | ||
| And he starts this religious congregation of sisters dedicated to fighting abortion, serving the unborn and their moms and dads. | ||
| So I was mentored by him. | ||
| And I started to think, when he announced the Sisters of Life, this was like 1990, 1991, I said, there ought to be something like this for priests. | ||
| So he tells me that the son Of one of the first women to come to him that wanted to join the sister. | ||
| She had been married. | ||
| She had a son. | ||
| She lost her husband. | ||
| She becomes a sister of life. | ||
| He told me her son is thinking the same thing. | ||
| He's out in San Francisco. | ||
| Connect with him. | ||
| And he had started this small group, Priests for Life. | ||
| Long story short, come 1992-93, I went to the Cardinal. | ||
| I said, Your Eminence, I said, I believe like you do that there's no issue more important than abortion. | ||
| I feel like I have a call within the call. | ||
| To devote myself full-time to the unborn. | ||
| May I do that? | ||
| And meanwhile, I got a call from this priest he connected me with, who started Priests for Life, and he said, I'm going into the military service. | ||
| I need somebody to run this new organization. | ||
| So I said to the Cardinal, why don't I do this as my full-time ministry? | ||
| May I do that? | ||
| And this was 93, he gave me the okay, and I've been doing it ever since. | ||
| You mentioned the Clinton years. | ||
| The 93 is really the beginning of the dark years for abortionists. | ||
| Walk us through, how do we get from 93 to the cusp, the eve of this historic argument tomorrow in the spring? | ||
| Well, I'll tell you what, a lot of perseverance, you know, people were, there were those dark days and people said, oh, the pro-life movement isn't winning. | ||
| I have spent the last 30 years telling people the pro-life movement is winning because I always saw the dynamics that would get us to the point where we are today, which are very simply this, no matter, no matter that the other side has more political power, media power, money, they always outspend us, doesn't matter because none of that They have the high ground of pop culture. | ||
| Pop culture, exactly, the universities, I mean, all the structures, right, of our society, of influence in our society. | ||
| But none of that creates truth. | ||
| And I say to people, look, nobody can change the fact of what an abortion is. | ||
| I always say, America will not reject abortion until America sees abortion. | ||
| Ask a supporter of abortion a very simple question, have you ever seen one? | ||
| And bring them to see it. | ||
| Let them watch a video of a baby being aborted. | ||
| Remember there was that woman that said, I'm going to film my abortion. | ||
| And it created a big stir on social media. | ||
| Oh, she filmed her abortion. | ||
| No, she didn't. | ||
| She filmed her own face while she was having an abortion. | ||
| I challenged her and I challenged everybody that was supporting her. | ||
| I said, you want to film an abortion? | ||
| Be my guest. | ||
| Take a camera and go right in there and show the baby being ripped apart limb from limb while still alive. | ||
| That's filming an abortion. | ||
| And so, nothing changes the truth of that. | ||
| And nothing changes the fact that when people see that, they reject it. | ||
| If I stood on a street corner, as I have done, and hold up a picture of an aborted baby, let's say I wasn't dressed like I am now, like a priest. | ||
| Let's say I wasn't saying anything. | ||
| Let's say I wasn't handing out any flyers. | ||
| Let's say there was no words on the sign. | ||
| I'm just going to hold a sign of an aborted baby. | ||
| What are people going to think? | ||
| Am I supporting it or am I objecting to it? | ||
| They're going to know I'm objecting to it. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because it's so darn offensive. | ||
| You look at it and it's horrifying. | ||
| So, I've always told people during the dark Clinton years, I said, keep focusing on the simple question. | ||
| What is an abortion? | ||
| What does it do to the baby? | ||
| What does it do to the mother? | ||
| What does it do to the family? | ||
| Keep focusing on the truth. | ||
| And then we've seen a couple of other things. | ||
| You know, one of the parts of our ministry At Priest for Life is silent no more. | ||
| These are the people that have had abortions, right? | ||
| We give them a chance to speak up and share their stories. | ||
| So again, for decades we've been saying, just share the stories, keep sharing the stories. | ||
| Because no matter who's in political power, no matter who has the money, nobody can contradict the voices of these women who have said, you know what, I thought abortion was going to help me, it devastated me instead. | ||
| Okay, so those voices have been getting out. | ||
| And then I've also said to the young people, you know, you are survivors of abortion and you know it. | ||
| And that's what's motivating so many of, you know, the senator talked about, Shaheen talked about, oh yeah, especially the young. | ||
| Yeah, little does she realize young people are more pro-life than ever before. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Is that because of the technology they actually see? | ||
| Well, that's part of it, right? | ||
| Their first pictures, their first baby pictures are ultrasounds. | ||
| So that's part of it. | ||
| The technology is very strong. | ||
| But two other dynamics. | ||
| One is that they see how the people around them have been devastated by abortion. | ||
| Some of them, you know, they've had their siblings aborted. | ||
| And they see the grief that their parents go through over that. | ||
| They've had friends who've had abortions. | ||
| They see that it doesn't help them. | ||
| But the other thing is they are aware that they were not protected when they were in the womb. | ||
| And that's scary. | ||
| Imagine when a child first realizes, hey, I could have been killed when I was in the womb. | ||
| I had no protection. | ||
| So these young people are getting involved in the pro-life movement because in a real sense they're speaking up for themselves. | ||
| And they're saying, you know, I was a person then. | ||
| I'm a person now. | ||
| I'm protected now. | ||
| I should have been protected then. | ||
| You know, you have the annual March for Life. | ||
| There's a million people that show up here. | ||
| It's amazing! | ||
| And until Trump, no president went down there, but also the media wouldn't cover it. | ||
| Even Fox wouldn't cover it. | ||
| I mean, it is the biggest, I tell people living up here, it's by far the biggest event that takes place every year. | ||
| It's the biggest pro-life event. | ||
| And it's very young. | ||
| I think it's the biggest event in the Capitol as far as a March goes. | ||
| Of any March. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| And it's all young people. | ||
| It's all young people. | ||
| And it's been increasingly that way as years and years have gone by. | ||
| So you start in 93. | ||
| You take this on. | ||
| It's the dark days of Clinton. | ||
| What's the legal strategy and the legislative strategy? | ||
| How do you get to the cusp of all night long they've got the long faces on MSNBC and CNN thinking you guys finally have them cornered? | ||
| And this is not the Texas law, this is the Mississippi. | ||
| What took place to get us here? | ||
| Well, first of all, a lot of public education, because people still don't know what Roe vs. Wade is, what the policy is. | ||
| Most people think, oh, it allowed abortion in the first three months of pregnancy. | ||
| And from day one that that decision was announced, that has been the tagline. | ||
| And it's just inaccurate. | ||
| Roe allows abortion throughout pregnancy. | ||
| So part of our strategy, first of all educationally, is to challenge people to understand this is an extreme policy. | ||
| It's not a rational, moderate policy. | ||
| It's extreme. | ||
| Allowing abortion throughout pregnancy is a position. | ||
| That the American people have never embraced. | ||
| There's not a single poll that's ever been... And why did the courts, why did the courts make this radical decision back 50 years ago? | ||
| Yeah, you know, that's... The first arguments were next week? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I was pointing out, yeah, the first arguments in Roe v. Wade, the oral argument, that was actually argued twice because there was a change on the court and they wanted to re-argue, but the first oral arguments took place December 13th 1971. | ||
| So a week from this Monday, 50th anniversary of that, almost to the day... The country's gone through so much from that. | ||
| Why did the judge justices come down with such a radical decision? | ||
| You know, it wasn't because there was popular support. | ||
| It wasn't because anything in the Constitution required it. | ||
| And this is why even people who supported the outcome of Roe v. Wade, John Hart Eli, for example, other legal scholars, even Ginsburg, when she was alive, expressed disappointment in the way Roe v. Wade was reasoned. | ||
| This was a conclusion in search of a rationale. | ||
| These justices, for whatever reason, personal reasons they had, wanted to engineer social policy. | ||
| And did a pretty bad job of trying to justify it constitutionally, medically, and historically. | ||
| So we ended up with an extreme... Who drove that from the bench? | ||
| Well, you know, you had Blackmun, of course, Justice Douglas Brennan, who was a Catholic. | ||
| You had these guys looking at this and... | ||
| The Roe v. Wade movie came out, by the way, recently. | ||
| We were involved in helping make that, and it's pretty good. | ||
| It traces how these justices argued among themselves. | ||
| Why don't you hang on? | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Father Frank is here, priest for life, on the eve of a historic day tomorrow at the Supreme Court, the arguments about Roe v. Wade in the Mississippi case. | ||
| Be back in the War Room in just a moment. | ||
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| I want to turn back to Father Frank. | ||
| Preach for Life tomorrow. | ||
| Lay out the legal arguments on both sides. | ||
| Because MSNBC and CNN are literally in a meltdown. | ||
| Completely in a meltdown. | ||
| They are. | ||
| They are in a meltdown. | ||
| And why are they in a meltdown? | ||
| Well, because they see that this could really change Roe v. Wade and that the states are ready and willing to protect these babies. | ||
| And one of the key legal arguments that the states, starting with Mississippi, are making is, hey, it's up to us to pass laws for our own state. | ||
| Abortion is the only issue, the only medical procedure that's been given a constitutional status. | ||
| And what that leads to is what happened to Mississippi. | ||
| The district court, the federal court, when the pro-abortion groups, specifically the abortion bill there in Jackson, challenged this law. | ||
| Mississippi said, look, we passed this law because we know more about the unborn child, we know more about the harm abortion does to women, and we know more about how this harms the reputation of the medical profession. | ||
| We have interest as a state to defend those things. | ||
| Now, Roe, and also Casey in 92, did say that the states have an interest. | ||
| In protecting life, protecting the health of women, protecting the medical profession. | ||
| But then they tied their hands and they said you can't pursue those interests by actually banning abortion before viability. | ||
| So Mississippi and the states are saying look, let us legislate. | ||
| There's nothing in the Constitution either that speaks to a right of abortion nor that limits the power of the states to legislate about it. | ||
| We legislate about everything else. | ||
| Why can't we legislate on abortion? | ||
| First, the other thing is, people are familiar with the law, constitutional law, with standards of review. | ||
| And so Roe said, this is the highest kind of right, abortion, it's strict scrutiny. | ||
| In other words, a state can't limit it, except for the most compelling reasons in the most limited way. | ||
| And what Mississippi is saying, no, no, let's return it to rational basis review. | ||
| Let's say if the state has an interest, and we do, okay, the things I mentioned already, and this law is reasonably related to advancing that interest, well then, it's constitutional. | ||
| We should be able to do it. | ||
| We shouldn't have to jump through extra hoops to justify protecting these babies. | ||
| Those are some of the key legal arguments. | ||
| Mississippi is actually saying, take away viability. | ||
| At the very least, they want the court to take away this viability limit, because it has no basis anywhere. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| It has no basis in health, in medicine, in law? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Well, in law it certainly doesn't. | ||
| Now, sometimes, you know, when they come up with, you know, these courts will come up with rights and with other things, and they'll say, oh, it's constitutional. | ||
| If it's not in the text of the Constitution, Steve, as you know, it at least has to be in the deeply rooted, objective history and practices, legal practices or traditions of America. | ||
| You look at the legal practices and traditions of America, you don't see a right to abortion. | ||
| You see the protection of the babies in the womb. | ||
| We inherited that from common law. | ||
| At the time that the 14th Amendment was adopted, we had 37 states and 30 of them banned abortion. | ||
| Many of them throughout pregnancy. | ||
| So it's like, where's this right to abortion coming from? | ||
| Where's this viability limit coming from? | ||
| It's coming from nowhere. | ||
| In fact, you know when it got inserted into Roe v. Wade? | ||
| One month before the decision came out. | ||
| One month! | ||
| It wasn't even in the oral arguments. | ||
| It wasn't in the briefs. | ||
| It's been such a key concept. | ||
| Why did it get dropped in so late and who put it in? | ||
| Apparently some of the justices, I think Brennan and Marshall in particular, influenced Blackmun. | ||
| He was originally going to say allow abortion up to 12 weeks. | ||
| And they pushed him to do it to viability. | ||
| Basically, from what we can gather, it was because they wanted people to have access to more abortion, give them more time to decide and so forth. | ||
| And it was as if they were serving the abortion industry. | ||
| But here's the problem. | ||
| Whether they put the limit at 12 weeks or viability, here's the bottom line, and this is a key legal argument that's being made tomorrow. | ||
| It's not their job to draw the limits. | ||
| It's the legislature's job. | ||
| Put this back to the legislatures and what do you have? | ||
| You have hearings. | ||
| You have accountability to the people. | ||
| You have lawmakers who can be lobbied by the people. | ||
| You have processes of amendments. | ||
| You can change and adjust the law based on the experience of people. | ||
| You have a process that we know can work. | ||
| That's one of the reasons MSNBC and the elites that govern this country That's right. | ||
| And that's why, again, we started off with the comments of Senator Shaheen. | ||
| They're so out of touch, because this is exactly the opposite. | ||
| It's taking away authoritarian control by unelected judges. | ||
| For our audience, do your analysis of the opposition. | ||
| What are they going to argue? | ||
| How are they going to pick apart the argument of the forces, the pro-life forces? | ||
| I'll tell you what, they're going to use an argument that is really, women who are listening, okay, and all the rest of us too, should find it very insulting to women. | ||
| What they're going to say is what they said in Casey. | ||
| Because all they've been doing in their briefs is reiterating the arguments in Casey and in Rowe, which aren't arguments at all. | ||
| But one of them is the so-called reliance interest. | ||
| And Mississippi is saying there are no reliance interests. | ||
| But what they're saying is, well, women have come to rely on the availability of abortion, to expect the availability of abortion in order to advance in society. | ||
| And it's like, you know, if you're a woman out there, you know, isn't that insulting? | ||
| You can advance in society. | ||
| You can become a professional woman. | ||
| You could become a lawyer, a doctor, whatever you are or want to be. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Well, because you can kill your children if you want. | ||
| It's like, no, that's not why women advance in society. | ||
| Women advance in society because they have talents, because they take advantage of the opportunities, because they work hard to get there, because they know what they're doing. | ||
| And even while, you know, the rates and the ratio of abortion have been going down. | ||
| They've been, in fact, they're reaching now historically low levels. | ||
| The advancement of women instead has continued to rise. | ||
| Rightfully so. | ||
| One thing, a lot of people would thought over the last couple of years, and maybe don't follow this as closely, would say, hey, this is settled law, it'll never get overturned. | ||
| But you've made this point that it's not just the technology has changed, the country has changed. | ||
| Walk us through that. | ||
| So this is outdated in the fact of how the country has changed. | ||
| It's outdated. | ||
| For example, Roe v. Wade said we don't want to impose a distressful life on the pregnant mother and say she has to bear that child. | ||
| So one of the things we have now that we didn't have then are safe haven laws in every one of the 50 states. | ||
| That mother, if she feels she can't raise that child, she can bring that child to a police station, a hospital, a fire station. | ||
| Safe haven. | ||
| Leave the baby. | ||
| No questions asked. | ||
| The state takes over and puts that baby with a family. | ||
| We have pregnancy anti-discrimination laws. | ||
| We have home leave, medical leave, child care laws. | ||
| We have online learning, online work opportunities that she can pursue while being at home with her baby. | ||
| We didn't have the internet in 1973. | ||
| So all these things since Roe v. Wade have changed. | ||
| Pregnancy centers now outnumber abortion clinics almost 4 to 1. | ||
| There are alternatives for these moms. | ||
| If they get pregnant unexpectedly, we're not imposing motherhood. | ||
| That's not what we're doing. | ||
| We have a society now where by the time of Roe v. Wade, I think it was like, I don't know, 13% of unwed mothers, mothers out of wedlock, children under 18 that they had. | ||
| Now it's more like 40%. | ||
| Things have changed, it has become more acceptable to have all these different situations where you can be a mother and still- I mean, it's not the social stigma it was back then. | ||
| The stigma, right, exactly. | ||
| Exactly, stigma has declined. | ||
| The number of women in the workforce, greatly different now than it was at Roe v. Wade. | ||
| So the bottom line is, yes, things have changed in the culture, in the law, in medicine. | ||
| I mean, we do fetal surgery now. | ||
| This wasn't the case at the time of Roe v. Wade. | ||
| Ultrasound was not widely known or used. | ||
| A lot of things have changed. | ||
| We just have a couple minutes, but I want to know, for tomorrow, I take it the audio is not going to be played? | ||
| They played the audio for Texas? | ||
| My understanding is that they will be playing the audio of the arguments. | ||
| If they play the audio, so if people listen in, what should they be listening for? | ||
| Give us some inside baseball. | ||
| Okay, so to listen for, first of all, questions about the standard of review. | ||
| In other words, the idea... From the justices, after the arguments are made. | ||
| The questions that pop. | ||
| Does abortion have a special status? | ||
| You want to listen for that? | ||
| Or can it be legislated about like other medical procedures are? | ||
| In other words, the state, they have the right to advance certain interests. | ||
| They have a reasonable law, that should be enough. | ||
| Listen to, is the court willing to draw new lines? | ||
| I don't think they are. | ||
| If they're not willing to draw new lines, that's a good sign because they're going to say, okay, the states can decide for themselves. | ||
| what the line is going to be. You want to pass like Texans did, you know, when the heartbeat is detected you could protect the babies or like Mississippi 15 weeks or you want to keep abortion legal throughout pregnancy like New York does. | ||
| Well, okay then. Leave it up to the states. It's not okay with us of course but leave it up to the states. Listen for that. That's going to be the key thing. | ||
| Okay. One last time. You've been doing this for 30 years. | ||
| I just want you to tell the audience, and when you have movements like this or have things you're fighting for, it could take decades. | ||
| And sometimes you're going to have not just cloudy days, you're going to have cloudy years. | ||
| But you've got to stick with it. | ||
| You stick with it. | ||
| You know, it doesn't really matter. | ||
| And this goes for any battle in life. | ||
| And Steve, I just want to say, God bless you for the battles that you fight. | ||
| You give us all an example. | ||
| You do. | ||
| I'm Irish, you know that. | ||
| But you know this as well as anyone else. | ||
| It really doesn't matter where you are in the battle. | ||
| What matters is you don't let anything stop you. | ||
| You keep moving forward. | ||
| That's the philosophy we take in this movement. | ||
| And that's what wins. | ||
| We've got 30 seconds. | ||
| Social media. | ||
| How do people follow you? | ||
| FRFrankPavone. | ||
| You'll find me on all the main social media accounts at Facebook. | ||
| It's FatherFrankPavone and my website EndAbortion.us. | ||
| Father Frank Pravone from Priests for Life, one of the true patriots and heroes. | ||
| I've got to tell you, on the eve of this historic argument tomorrow in the Supreme Court, we're going to cover it very thoroughly. | ||
| Make sure you track Father Frank and everything. | ||
| Really an honor to come up here. | ||
| We want to spend more time. | ||
| Next time you come up, we'll break at an hour and go through all this. | ||
| You have lessons to teach people about when you believe in something, you've got to put your shoulder to the wheel, it's not going to occur overnight, and don't get discouraged. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Pray and fight. | ||
| Kind of like the Venetians, work and pray. | ||
| That's right! | ||
| Pray and fight. | ||
| Father Frank, thank you for coming, and hopefully track you down tomorrow at the end of the arguments. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Okay, Boris Epstein joins us next. | ||
| Big day today on Capitol Hill. | ||
| We're going to get into all of it next in the War Room. | ||
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| We will fight till they're all gone. | ||
| We rejoice when there's no... | ||
| War Room, Pandemic, with Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room, Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| I was wondering, what do you think about the situation involving Steve Bannon, the charges against him, and just kind of the overall situation with the January 6th charges and everything related to it? | ||
| It is a partisan political witch hunt by Nancy Pelosi. | ||
| This is Nancy Pelosi's committee. | ||
| It is completely political. | ||
| And let's talk about the hypocrisy of this Department of Justice. | ||
| Eric Holder has been held in contempt of Congress. | ||
| Lois Lerner has been held in contempt of Congress. | ||
| This is politicization of the Department of Justice to really attack Republicans, attack conservatives, and attack President Trump supporters. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| We tried to stay away from this, but we had to play Elise Stefanik. | ||
| Real America's Voice did such an incredible job today. | ||
| You're going to get to me. | ||
| They're going to be playing more of this footage. | ||
| I think they covered it live. | ||
| They did. | ||
| I heard, by the way, Boris has now replaced Father Frank, so we're ecumenical today. | ||
| I heard Carolina Serrano from Nevada won. | ||
| Was one of the dominant players today? | ||
| A thousand percent. | ||
| Carolina, who was on the show in the morning, she knocked it out of the park. | ||
| She was there at the event that took place for EPAC, which is Elise Stefanik's PAC, supporting Republican women in Congress, conservative women in Congress. | ||
| Carolina was there. | ||
| She was the only one from the list of women to watch who was there. | ||
| She's moving up to that endorsement level, we hope, soon. | ||
| But Carolina did a great job. | ||
| A lot of good discussions. | ||
| And overall, there was a very central theme to the events of today from The get-together that was before the press conference and the press conference. | ||
| And that theme is MAGA. | ||
| That theme is MAGA. | ||
| This came in as Hardcore MAGA today? | ||
| Absolutely Hardcore MAGA. | ||
| And listen, I'm going to be honest. | ||
| Nicole Maniatakis was in the audience. | ||
| Elise Stefanik, you know, recognized her, she was recognizing every member in the audience. | ||
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The fewest claps, the fewest... Golf claps. | |
| Golf claps would mean... It would have been a roar. | ||
| It would have been a roar. No, no, this was, it was like crickets. | ||
| Tell our audience why is that, maybe if we were not up to speed. | ||
| Because Nicole Malatakis made a huge mistake, it was one of the 13 Republicans in the House Representatives who voted for the terrible, no good, pathetic infrastructure bill, giving Joe Biden a lifeline and there's no room for that. | ||
| So overall today on the Hill, and then I had a great discussion with the Chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, Tom Emmer. | ||
| A lot of good meetings. | ||
| The central theme that I'm getting from the Hill today, I spent the last four hours there, it's all MAGA, all the time, and that's how we're going to get to 100 seats, 100 years. | ||
| Carolina gave me the gift. | ||
| She's so fantastic. | ||
| I've got to ask you, what's the temperature up there? | ||
| We had MTG this morning. | ||
| You had Elise Stefanik at her event. | ||
| You're going back up, I know, to talk to leadership now. | ||
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| Do people understand, because I'm hearing that they're talking about, you know, kicking the CR down and the Republicans actually want more time, right? | ||
| They're kicking not just to January, they're thinking of kicking it to February, March. | ||
| Is the attitude you get on the Hill, are people ready for fight? | ||
| These are fights that matter. | ||
| What's the sense you get? | ||
| President Trump, and by the way, he went original gangster today. | ||
| If we can get that up on the chat. | ||
| We gotta get that up. | ||
| We gotta get it up. | ||
| I tell you, he went original gangster today. | ||
| Wasn't that a Lionel Moore statement? | ||
| I hope a lot of that was inspired by MTG being on the war room this morning and Liz Harrington and the great team over there. | ||
| But President Trump came out old. | ||
| This is old school Trump. | ||
| I mean, listen, here's the deal with Ilana Moore. | ||
| I mean, talk about living in glass houses. | ||
| This whole thing is ridiculous. | ||
| By the way, you know, whatever, Lauren Boebert, you know, she said some things. | ||
| You know, Ilana Moore never apologizes. | ||
| She never apologizes for hating my people, for being an anti-Semite, for hating Israel. | ||
| Rashida Tlaib never apologizes. | ||
| There's a difference between anti-Semitic and hating. | ||
| Do you actually think she hates? | ||
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| You do? | ||
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Yes. | |
| It's a pretty big charge. | ||
| I think... I know you come as the surrogate, but you're a very reasonable guy. | ||
| Why would you say that? | ||
| I think Ilhan Omar has no time, has no interest, has no capacity for compassion or positivity toward the Jewish people in the State of Israel. | ||
| And by the way, To any of you who are at home now saying, well, you know, you could be negative on Israel but still be okay with it. | ||
| Wrong! | ||
| That's not what it is. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| If you're an anti-Zionist, you're an anti-Semite. | ||
| And Alana Maher is somebody who repeatedly in her statements, it's all about the Benjamins, Israel has hypnotized the world, shouldn't be elected, she shouldn't be elected. | ||
| This is somebody who is not just anti-Israel, it's not just anti-Zionist, she's an anti-Semite through and through. | ||
| You're up there today, why do they seem to, they wrap the Praetorian Guard around They're outriders who actually drive the agenda. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But you have the MTGs, the Boeberts, the fire breathers who you need to get some excitement going, and they're always cast out. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| That's a huge mistake. | ||
| It's a huge mistake by Republicans on the Hill, because again, look at the comparisons. | ||
| Poor Gosar puts out a video. | ||
| He didn't do it. | ||
| Some staffer puts a video on Twitter, okay? | ||
| It's a cartoon. | ||
| The poor guy gets censured. | ||
| It was a mistake, but you shouldn't be censured. | ||
| How many guys they censured in the Congress? | ||
| It was a staff mistake. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But he was censured and kicked off committees. | ||
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| Kicked off two committees. | ||
| Ilhan Omar says vile anti-semitic things and then they pass a weak, remember that weak souped down resolution when they went after and said, oh well, we are against all hate and they kind of try to turn it into an anti-Trump thing. | ||
| Ilana Maher goes and attacks the Jews and the Democrats find a way to turn it into an anti-Trump thing and that is where, and we talk about this with redistricting, we talk about it with committees, with precincts, Democrats have played smash mouth forever. | ||
| Can that, okay, to the saying, 100 seats for 100 years, to get to the 100 seats, you have to play smash mouth. | ||
| You have to be dedicated. | ||
| When we win, we've got to govern. | ||
| But I'm saying you have to be so focused. | ||
| You have to be on message. | ||
| You also have to have policies. | ||
| You just can't sit there and go, let them collapse. | ||
| I agree, they're collapsing. | ||
| And you've gone through the numbers better than anybody how they are collapsing. | ||
| But you also got to put forward a vision of how you're going to govern and then stick to it. | ||
| Remember, the great thing people loved about Trump, he said, hey, I'm going to do the following. | ||
| We were up on the whiteboard. | ||
| He's either doing it or fighting like crazy. | ||
| They're about to pass another... Fighting against Republicans! | ||
| The biggest fights, they even get legislation up there. | ||
| Remember, we just passed a $1.25 trillion infrastructure bill, not one penny for a southern border wall. | ||
| So these are the types of fights. | ||
| Do you get a sense of being up there today? | ||
| That people understand that this fight, it has to be a coalition, but it's a fight and we gotta drive this thing home. | ||
| The sense I got is that we need to ensure that the candidates we're putting up, the districts that are being drawn, and the candidates who become members of Congress and Senators are MAGA candidates. | ||
| We have no more time for these rhinos. | ||
| We have no more time for weaklings. | ||
| We have no more time for not playing Smash Mouth. | ||
| And this thing with Boebert and Alon Amar is a perfect example of that. | ||
| First of all, whoever advised Alon Boebert to make the call, that's bad. | ||
| That's not good stuff. | ||
| You mean the apology? | ||
| The apology and the call. | ||
| Because you're not in control. | ||
| You're not in control, right? | ||
| The apology was way too rushed. | ||
| She got set up and hung up on. | ||
| And then she got hung up on. | ||
| So we need to be playing like they used to, okay? | ||
| Now Democrats have not gotten, maybe Nancy Pelosi doesn't have her fastball, whatever. | ||
| But Democrats traditionally play smashmouth football and they never back down. | ||
| Oh, one of our key members who leads our agenda said something anticipated? | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| F you. | ||
| Oh, somebody else is posting cartoons against the president that are absolutely vile? | ||
| Oh, F you. | ||
| Is Stefanik got the right stuff? | ||
| Is she going to be, is she Pyrrha Maga? | ||
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| Talk to me about today. | ||
| You saw it in the room. | ||
| Elise Stefanik, this is her event, these are her people, and she was somebody of people coalescing around, and she brought toughness. | ||
| As she was talking about the members in the room, and she was vitally talking about the candidates who she's backing, and the women to watch, like Carolina Serrano. | ||
| There was heat in the room. | ||
| And then, you see it right there. | ||
| You see it right there. | ||
| It was a question that was expected, let's put it that way. | ||
| And then she got the question, and she hit it out of the park. | ||
| She hit it out of the park because she knows that Steve Bannon, the War Room Posse, the MAGA movement under the leadership of President Trump are the future not just of the Republican Party, not just of MAGA, but are the future of this country. | ||
| I want to take a minute or two. | ||
| By the way, we've got Dan Shultz. | ||
| I'm going to get Dan up here in a minute and hopefully Joe Allen about the robots having babies. | ||
| Fun. | ||
| It can get more bizarre. | ||
| There's a lot of questions out there in the MAGA world about Stefanik, and she's, I think, proven herself every day. | ||
| But tell people, what does it take? | ||
| The courage, because we're about courage, and courage is contagious. | ||
| What does it take to take on a Chaney? | ||
| People don't realize the type of move. | ||
| When she moved, she moved fast, and she moved hard, right? | ||
| And once you do that, because that's either you're going to take it to the next level, or you're done, right? | ||
| It's a binary function. | ||
| There's no middle ground. | ||
| her out or you're out. You go with the king, you gotta take it. People realize right now, Cheney, look, we say she's gotta go, but she's not backing down on Trump at all. I mean, she's a tough hombre, right? Tell us about Lee Stefanik's courage in doing that. | ||
| Well, there was courage throughout. Courage in calling the second impeachment what it was, a sham. | ||
| Courage in standing with President Trump. | ||
| One of the leaders of that. | ||
| Courage, absolutely. | ||
| Courage in being the first and the second impeachment. | ||
| She was vital in turning around the first and the second impeachment, Elise Stefanik. | ||
| And then courage in saying the election was stolen and frankly, courage in being smart And knowing that to become the conference chair, you've got to have MAGA. | ||
| And let's not forget, that day, President Trump's endorsement comes in the evening. | ||
| The next morning, she's right here in this chair, talking to you, talking to the War Room posse, and being upfront about who she is and what she believes. | ||
| And that is what got her over the hump. | ||
| That's what made her a conference chair, and she has not backed down an inch. | ||
| A lot of people, you know, they get someone and they kind of forget how they got there. | ||
| Elise Stefanik has not done that. | ||
| Just the opposite. | ||
| And you heard it right there today from her in that press conference. | ||
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| You saw, morning Joe, I want to get Dan Schultz in here. | ||
| They had the Washington Post article yesterday about the precinct committee strategy, everything we're doing during the show. | ||
| I'm getting calls about it today! | ||
| MSNBC starts, morning Joe, complete total meltdown. | ||
| Why are they so freaked out of the Dan Schultzes of the world? | ||
| Why are they so freaked out? | ||
| Here's three things they're freaked out about. | ||
| People becoming election officials, people signing up with Dan Schultz on the precinct strategy, and people going to school boards. | ||
| They are freaked out more than I've ever seen them, except for maybe President Trump. | ||
| But they're now completely freaked out more than any political or cultural figure. | ||
| It's this movement of these pieces that's triggering them. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because it's connected to President Trump. | ||
| President Trump came in in 2016 and gave the American populace, the American public agency. | ||
| And it's all about that agency. | ||
| We always talk about action, action, action. | ||
| Put him in the room. | ||
| He put us in the room. | ||
| He put people who the establishment, the Union Party, wants nowhere near the room. | ||
| They don't want them in the house. | ||
| They don't want them in the zip code. | ||
| President Trump said, hey, I got an idea. | ||
| These are my people. | ||
| I'm speaking for them. | ||
| And I am going to be speaking loudly. | ||
| And now the people have taken the torch. | ||
| And under the leadership of President Trump, they're saying, you know what? | ||
| We're going to be on the school boards. | ||
| We're going to be precinct committee men and committee women. | ||
| And we are redrawing the districts. | ||
| To connect dots. | ||
| To this historic eve of these arguments tomorrow at this Marine Court on Roe v. Wade. | ||
| Back in the early 70s when Roe first passed, when you start to see traditional, super conservative Catholics and evangelicals showing up at the Republican Party things about life, it became one of the bedrocks of the Reagan movement. | ||
| At first the country club guys go, hold, these guys are not clubbable, right? | ||
| So who's this right-to-life crowd is like the most deplorable of the set. | ||
| But that's how they built the Reagan coalition, right? | ||
| And it's happening now again. | ||
| That's what's happening. | ||
| And that's why I say this. | ||
| I'm going to say it again. | ||
| I firmly believe that if you polled the voting public today with Truth Serum, about two-thirds are MAGA. | ||
| And it's only growing. | ||
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And not just because Biden is collapsing, but because of the strength of our movement. | |
| What we have to do is stay maniacally focused. | ||
| I had Father Franklin here. | ||
| He's been doing this for 30 years. | ||
| And the ten years of the Clinton were the dark years, right? | ||
| But you can go through a lot of non-wins if you keep your shoulder to the wheel. | ||
| Now we're on the cusp of doing something great, and that's what people have got to be focused on. | ||
| I just want to add, because we don't like talking about it. | ||
| Or we don't need to talk about it, but the Daily Mail's got a story. | ||
| A little bit of a story. | ||
| 16 major news organizations, including MSNBC and CNN, came in today and joined, I guess, our side of the football in supporting. | ||
| They want total and free access and complete transparency. | ||
| It's a good thing. | ||
| CNN's with Steve Bannon. | ||
| MSNBC. | ||
| Joanne Reed, welcome aboard. | ||
| Been waiting for that. | ||
| Maybe she'll come to the War Room. | ||
| We would love to have Joanne in the War Room. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| By the way, Ari Melber's biggest ratings thing ever. | ||
| Just saying. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to be back. | ||
| We got Dan Schultz, Precinct Strategy. | ||
| Joe Allen on the robots. | ||
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| We want to turn now to the new reporting from the Washington Post that allies of Donald Trump are trying to remove some of the guardrails that prevented him from overturning the 2020 election. | ||
| Now, according to the Post, Trump and his supporters are pushing a plan to place loyalists in key election posts from poll watchers and precinct judges to county clerks and state attorneys general. | ||
| The Trump supporters seeking office claim they just want to secure the system. | ||
| The Post says a spokesperson for the former president did not respond to a request for comment. | ||
| This article, I know your phone's blown up. | ||
| I've never seen anything about it. | ||
| It's like a civics class of how to get people involved in their full meltdown. | ||
| Taking off the guardrails. | ||
| And the beauty of it is they're doing our press! | ||
| Yeah, thanks for the free press! | ||
| Hey, can we get that retweeted a few times? | ||
| And now other outlets, let's say big name outlets, let's say maybe ones that rhyme with DNN, are reaching out saying, hey, we want to do a story on the precincts. | ||
| I want to bring in now the precinct. | ||
| By the way, Dan, here's the beauty of it. | ||
| Your precinct strategy to basically have people take over the Republican Party, they're conflating that with our push also to get people to go be election officials, particularly election officials inside the room with the count, but be poll watchers and school boards. | ||
| They've conflated it all now into one big conspiracy. | ||
| They're taking off the guardrails. | ||
| Dan Schultz, your analysis of what's happening, sir. | ||
| It's beautiful, isn't it? | ||
| The reason they're flipping out is because this is real signal. | ||
| This is about actually taking back our country precinct by precinct and getting people involved in the party itself. | ||
| So, you know, we've got about 100,000 conservatives in the party already, but there's about 100,000 non-conservatives. | ||
| We need 200,000 of the 74 million MAGA people to come into the party. | ||
| And we're making some great progress. | ||
| I just got the numbers for my legislative district. | ||
| We went from 36% after the August 2020 primary, we're up to 61% of our slots filled. | ||
| Maricopa County, we're up to 57% filled, up from 36%. | ||
| That's real progress. | ||
| And so we've got to keep building on that. | ||
| We've got 5,200 people all across the country on our new pill.net precinct strategy, communications and collaboration platform. | ||
| But that's only 160th of what we need. | ||
| We need to have 300,000, the 100,000 existing on it, and then the new 200,000 also on it, communicating and collaborating. | ||
| And our next project is, we're going to start asking all of the America First candidates looking to win the primary. | ||
| We're going to start vetting them. | ||
| And we're going to start asking them, like you were discussing it earlier, are they really Hardcore America First or not? | ||
| And then the next step is we're going to ask them, okay, if you're really America First, will you be recruiting your donors, your supporters, your campaign volunteers to join us in the party as precinct committeeman? | ||
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Will you become a precinct committeeman? | |
| And that's my next problem. | ||
| They said 20 of the top election clerks, no, were after the 100, and not just the battleground states. | ||
| At the school boards, we're helping to recruit people every day to step up, to be on the school boards, not just to go to complaint school boards. | ||
| But real quickly, in about a minute and a half, Dan, tell us why it's so important for people to get engaged at the precinct level in the Republican Party. | ||
| How does that change your status from just being a spectator to actually being an owner? | ||
| Um, it's, it varies from state to state, but essentially it's this. | ||
| You get to do two main things. | ||
| One is you get access to the, get out the vote software. | ||
| So you're in the best position in your precinct, your voting precinct to boost turnout in the, in the, in the primary, especially, and then again, in the general. | ||
| But the other thing you get to do is you're a voting member of the party. | ||
| You get to elect directly your county chairman in some states. | ||
| In some states, you're going to elect electors who do that. | ||
| You can become a state committeeman like I have been and my kids have been. | ||
| You know, my 18-year-old, 20-year-old kids were state committeemen voting directly for one of the three members of the RNC from Arizona, the state chairman. | ||
| There's one state committeeman in our state for every three elected precinct committeeman. | ||
| So you've got all this political power inside the party. | ||
| And then let's say that somebody dies in office. | ||
| The party precinct committeeman will select the nominees to fill that position, who will then be appointed by probably the county board. | ||
| Again, it varies from state to state. | ||
| So there's real political power. | ||
| You're a bald... Power. | ||
| And by the way, you're an owner, you got power, you're empowered, and it doesn't cost you anything. | ||
| I know some of the states, maybe some marginal costs, but basically this is something you do with your time. | ||
| Dan, we got to bounce. | ||
| Give the new platform how do people get there and how you get... Yes, sir. | ||
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Get this married up with this. | |
| Precinctstrategy.com Precinctstrategy.com. | ||
| You can get my little book there. | ||
| You can get info for your state there. | ||
| Whatever I can find, I link there. | ||
| Some of it's old. | ||
| If you're in a state and you... | ||
| Well, send me some better links. | ||
| I'll put them up there, okay? | ||
| It's a great site. | ||
| Let me say, this is a perfect example of the great desert community of Arizona. | ||
| You have scared the elite to death, both on the full forensic audit, what you're doing out there. | ||
| Dan Schultz out there in the desert. | ||
| Dan, thank you so much. | ||
| We're going to get all these social media up tomorrow, 5 o'clock. | ||
| I guess my daughter would love that. | ||
| Army's going to be very favored. | ||
| Congratulations on having a great team. | ||
| We love the Army team. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Tomorrow, 5 o'clock, you're going to have updates on 3 November. | ||
| People are getting antsy. | ||
| We see that in courts, but people are saying, hey, there's a special session going on down in Georgia. | ||
| Where are we? | ||
| Well, that's because that's that's Brian Kemp being the traitor that he is. | ||
| Same guy who signed that consent decree, which was nonsense. | ||
| Tomorrow, tons of news all across the country. | ||
| Little snippet, Philadelphia, the elections official resigned today, who was a rhino, said the election wasn't stolen. | ||
| He's out, just like the head of Fulton County Elections. | ||
| Goners! | ||
| We're going to see you tomorrow morning. | ||
| We've got Miranda Devine, we've got a packed show, and tomorrow is the arguments on Roe v. Wade. | ||
| Historic day tomorrow in Washington, D.C. | ||
| at the Supreme Court. |
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