Nov. 6, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| You just look across the board and you can see a lot is happening. | ||
| It's really the notion of digital technology pervasively impacting every walk of life in every vertical industry on all parts of the globe. | ||
| The speed is mind-boggling. | ||
| What I'm particularly concerned about is how little the world is prepared for the fourth industrial revolution. | ||
| Humans and machines are assisting each other, augmenting each other with skills. | ||
| Humanity itself will be changed with this superintelligence, and we are at the doorstep of that era. | ||
| From text messaging, to video conferencing, to communication applications, to e-commerce, through to tele-healthy diagnostics, the use of technology has been everywhere in our response to the COVID-19 crisis. | ||
| It's at the end what the fourth industrial revolution will lead to, is a fusion of our physical, our digital, and our biological identities. | ||
| Okay, this has been one of the busiest weeks in War Room history, and that's pretty important because we've had many busy weeks, but a lot of things have happened this week, a lot of the practical politics. | ||
| But since we try to specialize in putting you ahead of the curve and putting you ahead of not just where the news is going, where the world is going, probably the most important work we do is not the political work. | ||
| Not the financial work, not the economic work, not the geopolitical work, not even the work for Lao Baijing, for the Chinese people, which is all important, all super high priority. | ||
| Probably the most important work we do now is about this thing, this concept called transhumanism, because whereas the Climate change is a, who knows, certainly not a crisis right now, as much as they try to make it a crisis, a faux crisis, but is a thing and even something you get around and what you're going to do to reverse some of the stuff. | ||
| And I'm all for those technologies that try to make things more efficient and better, to a certain degree. | ||
| What we have in a real crisis is this rush of all these different technological verticals. | ||
| Advanced chip design, artificial general intelligence, regenerative robotics, the new revolution in biotechnology through CRISPR, all that converging onto a spot which is called the singularity. | ||
| On this side of the spot, on this side of that convergence is Homo sapiens. | ||
| On the other side of that is Homo Sapiens Plus, something quite different than the human race. | ||
| And that is one of the things we're trying to cover and to make sure people understand what's going on. | ||
| Because quite frankly, it is a technological revolution that is now out of control with no means of trying to stop it. | ||
| And that was reinforced Sunday, a week ago. | ||
| By the way, it's Saturday, 6th November, Year of Our Lord 2021. | ||
| You're in for a special today. | ||
| And we already keep you up to date with the news, everything happening. | ||
| But we've got to get to this. | ||
| We've delayed it now a week. | ||
| We're supposed to have it last week. | ||
| 60 Minutes had a special on the book Homo Deus by the author Yuval Harari. | ||
| He was on last week in a really amazing 60 Minutes segment that, let's be blunt, did not Get the traction with people that it should have, and one of the reasons I think he pulled punches, etc. | ||
| So anyway, this special today, we're going to walk through all the different elements of this. | ||
| I want to bring in Joe Allen, who's our editor now at War Room, on all things transhumanism, and has just had some amazing pieces. | ||
| Here's what I know we're getting on. | ||
| As hot as this show is, as engaged as people are on all the different aspects that we cover, From the pandemic, to the politics, to the geopolitics, to China, the CCP, the stuff that's getting some of the most traction of all, and all of it's intense, and all of it gets great viewership, the transhumanist elements that we try to get into each show is among the most popular as far as people sharing and people discussing. | ||
| So Joe, and I want to thank you Joe for doing this and working with us on this, The 4th Industrial Revolution, Klaus Schwab right there, the party of Davos, the World Economic Forum, he's a villain, he's like a Bond villain on so many different levels of globalization and really the taking of economics and value from working class people. | ||
| I mean they are the enemy, they've been the enemy I think 10 years ago. | ||
| When I did the movie Generation Zero, it's actually been longer than that. | ||
| It's been about 10-12 years ago. | ||
| I actually had a segment in there called The Party of Davos. | ||
| They talked about Klaus Schwab and this is in the financial meltdown of 2008. | ||
| So Joe, why did we start this with all the clips we got to play today? | ||
| Why did you select Klaus Schwab in this whole discussion of the fourth industrial revolution? | ||
| Well, Steve, I believe that Klaus Schwab, the World Economic Forum, many of the agenda contributors there are the ideological hub that is organizing a lot of these advances across the world. | ||
| So it's not like Klaus Schwab Or Parag Khanna, or even Yuval Noah Harari are generating these technologies and disseminating them. | ||
| But what they are doing is they've been looking around the world for decades, and they are seeing the trends. | ||
| And so on one level, if you read the Fourth Industrial Revolution, or if you read The Great Reset by Klaus Schwab, what you get is an analysis of trends, and a projection as to where these trends are going. | ||
| But I would also argue that to the extent that the World Economic Forum has profound effects on public policy, on business policy, on really the vision that elites adhere to, that they are in fact directing where these technologies are going. | ||
| They're giving sanction to what Schwab calls the fusion of the digital, the biological, and the physical. | ||
| And, you know, you don't hear Klaus Schwab saying transhumanism. | ||
| You don't really hear Parag Khanna or even, you all know, a Harari saying transhumanism very often. | ||
| But these ideas have their seed in transhumanism. | ||
| And so when you listen to prominent transhumanists, when you listen to people like Max Moore, when you listen to people like Ben Goertzel or especially Ray Kurzweil, These are the people who have created this very strict sort of religious ideology in which technology is the only path that humans have to overcome the human condition. | ||
| Christians would say that humans are fallen, that we're subject to the seven deadly sins, and that we're subject to death, and that the only way that we can get past that is through faith in Jesus and eventually a resurrection of some sort. | ||
| Buddhists would say that really the root of suffering in human life is desire, and you've got these ills of disease, old age, and death. | ||
| And the path of the Buddhist is to pull back from that, to find peace within. | ||
| The path of the transhumanist is to acknowledge all of these human frailties, but rather than to seek some sort of supernatural, spiritual connection, or rather than to seek peace within, they believe that gadgetry, advanced gadgetry, is the path forward through genetic engineering, | ||
| Through bionics, through neuro-enhancement, through robotics, and of course through artificial intelligence, which itself is positioned by many transhumanists as becoming a stand-in for a god that they don't believe exists. | ||
| Let's go back, I want to step back just for one second with that kind of framing. | ||
| You have, and I want you to explain this to the audience, you have four or five technologies that are going down their own path of technological development. | ||
| Advanced chip design, which is still following Moore's law, right? | ||
| Which is what a doubling of chip Capacity every 18 months has been like that since the silicon chip was designed and people one time thought Moore's law was You know some insane theory. | ||
| It's the reason that the cell phone The cell phone has more computing capacity than the Johnson Space Center when we sent a man to the moon. | ||
| More computing capacity. | ||
| That's Moore's Law. | ||
| So you have advanced chip design. | ||
| And we haven't even seen the breakthroughs we're about to have in chip design. | ||
| So advanced chip design, you have artificial general intelligence, which is artificial intelligence but taken, it's where artificial intelligence takes itself to the next level. | ||
| Then you have Regenerative Robotics, which is robotics. | ||
| Everybody's seen the Boston Dynamics and little dogs running around, but Regenerative Robotics is where the robots themselves are taking out human imprecision and making the robots. | ||
| You also have the convergence of biotechnology, which is not just in DNA, but you know from the experimental gene therapy of the vaccine, really the enzymes, kind of the working, how you do it in CRISPR, right? | ||
| So you have the convergence, and as you said, all the subsets of that, you know, the chip design with neurolytics, with brain surgery, but those technologies are all converging. | ||
| It shouldn't be lost on anybody. | ||
| That when the Chinese Communist Party, identified a few years ago, made in China 2025, which they were going to dominate, there were X amount of industries they were going to dominate by the year 2025. | ||
| The top six industries were all the verticals that need to converge on the point of the singularity. | ||
| So I want to talk about those different verticals and also Kurzweil is the first guy that came up with this concept I think in the late 90s early 2000s. | ||
| Of a point in time, the singularity, where it all converges, and on this side of it, it's humanity. | ||
| Homo sapiens would have been around, I don't know, 500,000 years? | ||
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Right? | |
| A million years? | ||
| A couple million years? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Homo sapiens. | ||
| On the other side of that, that convergence point, is something different. | ||
| It is something, it is, it is bio, you know, it's bio, uh, uh, bio-designed human beings. | ||
| It's the, the, the, the Neuralink, the artificial intelligence. | ||
| It is something quite different. | ||
| And here's the point. | ||
| That was looked at as something that was going to be decades away. | ||
| Because the advances, these different verticals, it's pulled up. | ||
| In the lived experience of this audience, And I'm saying people that are, let's say, under 50 years old. | ||
| I think in the next 10 years max, we're going to be towards that convergence. | ||
| And mankind will be forced to have really the most fundamental decision it has to have. | ||
| Do we support this? | ||
| Is this appropriate? | ||
| And right now, and that's what the 60 Minutes Anderson Cooper interview showed. | ||
| Something we've been preaching here for a long time. | ||
| Nobody's in charge of this. | ||
| And remember, for people in the United States, on the show, because a huge amount of our audience is U.S., but a lot's international, it's your tax dollars. | ||
| This is all happening at DARPA and happening at different labs throughout the weapons labs, right? | ||
| The weapons labs have been turned over to kind of climate change in this. | ||
| It's happening at DARPA. | ||
| It's happening so many NIH, NIAID. | ||
| You saw some of the experiments that shocked people, but with the beagles and all this, or the scalps on the aborted babies, all of this is happening. | ||
| In addition, Your pension fund, the private equity, this is what's supporting Elon Musk, this is supporting Facebook, this is supporting all this. | ||
| The private equity and venture capital, not just in biotechnology, but every one of these six verticals, is your money. | ||
| So once again, like in the Greek tragedy of globalization, by our own hand we are smitten. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Once an eagle said, once struck by an arrow said, my own hand I am smitten, right? | ||
| That is what's happening. | ||
| Your tax dollars, your private equity. | ||
| Joe, we've got about a minute here before we go to break. | ||
| Thoughts, analysis, commentary? | ||
| Yeah, I think that the technologies are advancing at a rapid pace, and they've already changed our lives fundamentally, and they'll definitely continue to do so. | ||
| The goals, I think, are as important as the reality, so that if artificial general intelligence is impossible, That really doesn't matter so long as people believe that that's the goal that we're striving towards. | ||
| If genetic perfection is not possible, it's most important that the people that are driving a lot of the genomics industry really do believe that it is possible and that's the direction the culture will be steered. | ||
| Those are the values that they're going to inculcate in the public and especially in children who will grow up in this environment. | ||
| Joe Allen, our editor for all things transhumanist. | ||
| This is special, the transhumanist revolution. | ||
| You're going to be a little rattled today by what you hear. | ||
| We realize we put a lot on this audience. | ||
| Not only do we ask you to work every day of the week of stopping the madness and saving your country, but you know, too much that's what given, as much as called or much as asked. | ||
| I guess it's Let's take down the CCB! | ||
| posse is. We have another big fight, a fight for all mankind, a fight for humanity, right, about this transhumanism. How to get control of it, how to actually, I think, stop it right now until we take a pause. Short commercial break. Be back with Joe Allen in a moment. | ||
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Let's take down the C. C. D. | |
| They have all lied for too long. | ||
| Epidemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| You know, we'll soon have the power to re-engineer our bodies and brains, whether it is with genetic engineering, or by directly connecting brains to computers, or by creating completely non-organic entities, artificial intelligence, which is not based at all on the organic body and the organic brain. | ||
| And these technologies are developing at breakneck speed. | ||
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Yuval Noah Harari is talking about the race to develop artificial intelligence, as well as other technologies like gene editing that could one day enable parents to create smarter or more attractive children, and brain-computer interfaces that could result in human-machine hybrids. | |
| His writings have been recommended by President Barack Obama, as well as tech moguls Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg. | ||
| Maybe the biggest thing that we are facing is really a kind of evolutionary divergence. | ||
| Consciousness is the ability to feel things, like pain and pleasure and love and hate. | ||
| Intelligence is the ability to solve problems. | ||
| But computers, or artificial intelligence, they don't have consciousness, they just have intelligence. | ||
| They solve problems in a completely different way than us. | ||
| They will be able to solve more and more problems better than us without having any consciousness, any feelings. | ||
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And they will have power over us? | |
| They are already gaining power over us. | ||
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Harari is concerned the pandemic has opened the door for more intrusive kinds of data collection, including biometric data. | |
| What we have seen so far, it's corporations and governments collecting data about where we go, who we meet, what movies we watch. | ||
| The next phase is the surveillance going under our skin. | ||
| To hack a human being is to get to know that person better than they know themselves. | ||
| And based on that, to increasingly manipulate you. | ||
| Certainly now we are at the point when we need global cooperation. | ||
| You cannot regulate the explosive power of artificial intelligence on a national level. | ||
| Human-machine hybrids. | ||
| Human-machine hybrids. | ||
| By the way, Harari makes a big bet there about the consciousness thing. | ||
| That'll be something we'll talk about later. | ||
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| I want to go to Joe Allen. | ||
| We're going to bring Patrick Wood in here, the great theoretician of technocracy, for your analysis. | ||
| I've got to tell you, What shocked me most, and the reason we wanted to do this special before the 60 Minutes, but because of all the political issues going on in the Virginia campaign, we had to be live. | ||
| We're doing it now. | ||
| I was shocked that the 60 Minutes didn't get more lift. | ||
| You know, Drudge every day, if you look at the links, he's got 7, 8, 9, 10 links to the various disparate parts of this. | ||
| That's why we're trying to pull it together. | ||
| under an intellectual construct of transhumanism so that people can understand it. | ||
| Joe Allen, give me your assessment of Harari and what was just said there. | ||
| I think that the three most important points are that what he's elaborating is the transhumanist ideology going back many decades before he ever published any of his books. | ||
| A second point is that Harari is intently engaged with the World Economic Forum. | ||
| You know, Homo Deus published a year after the Fourth Industrial Revolution. | ||
| In many ways, I would say, it's influenced by it and a response to it. | ||
| And since he's talking to these global elites, in general, I think that it really explains a lot about why his emphasis is on Global organizations regulating artificial intelligence and genomics and all of that because he doesn't believe that nationalism works and he definitely does not believe that populism works. | ||
| In fact, he doesn't even believe that us peons have a free will of our own to speak of. | ||
| What do you mean about, let's talk about, because this gets to more of the spiritual or religious aspects of what this transhumanism is. | ||
| Which, by the way, fundamentally, a lot of the billionaires, people are in it not for the, even the, what they think the altruistic about humanity, they're in it because life extension's a big part of that, that means immortality. | ||
| They're really godless, soulless, cultural Marxist, materialist, atheist. | ||
| They don't... nihilist, right? | ||
| What they want to do is live forever, right? | ||
| And the other thing you should know is that the math doesn't work. | ||
| If you look at any of the math with climate change, it just... the math does not work. | ||
| It doesn't even come close to working. | ||
| If you believe the theory of the case of the end of the planet because of the heating, the only way it works Is if you take away the denominator, the 7 billion people growing at a certain rate, you get it down to a billion or 500 million. | ||
| So I've never supported the replacement theory of, oh, they're coming across the border trying to replace the United States. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| I've never bought that for a second. | ||
| I do believe the replacement theory that you have a bunch of technocrats throughout the world that are sitting there thinking, hey, there should be some group of people that are here and maybe they're quasi-combo plotter and then you need about a 500,000 or billion humans, but the carrying capacity of the planet can't take 7 billion plus. | ||
| And I think that you're seeing moves made towards that. | ||
| Like I said, I'm not a conspiracy theory person at all. | ||
| I'm a systems person, but we understand the system and break it down and see how it's working. | ||
| You see what this is driving to. | ||
| So the religious aspects of this that you just mentioned about not being, you know, the practical populist or nationalist, but more importantly, he doesn't believe humans have free will. | ||
| What is that in his construct? | ||
| What does that mean, Joe Allen? | ||
| Well, it's a very common idea in neuroscience. | ||
| Daniel Dennett is probably the most prominent advocate of it, but many neuroscientists claim that that's the way that the human mind works, that our decision-making process is an illusion, that subconscious neurological processes are actually making the decisions for us. | ||
| And Harari buys into that wholeheartedly. | ||
| He goes through all of the details in Homo Deus And he ultimately says that the kind of liberal, the classical liberal concept that human beings should have their own autonomy is in many ways obliterated by the neuroscience of choice. | ||
| Now, I personally do not believe that at all. | ||
| I think that the exertion of personal will and collectively the exertion of collective will is certainly a reality. | ||
| If you think of it in terms of these disparate forces inside the mind that are fighting for our attention and fighting for our decision-making process, the amazing thing about free will – and this goes back to ideas of angels and demons on the shoulders or devas and asuras depending on the religion – the idea behind free will is that no matter how powerful one of those urges is and no matter how weak the other urge is, free will is sort of an on-off | ||
| switch that if you exert that will, then you can encourage and cultivate the lesser voice until it's the louder voice and hopefully it's the better voice. | ||
| So I completely reject Harari's premise on that. | ||
| In fact, I reject much of what he says. | ||
| But, you know, I will always drive home, if you do not understand the arguments he's making in Homo Deus, then you're a fool, and if you buy into it wholeheartedly, you're a dupe. | ||
| Yeah, but you've got to understand it's a very important book and the concept's important. | ||
| Okay, let's bring in Patrick Wood. | ||
| Patrick was the author of a book that really kind of kicked this off in the thinking about this called Technocracy. | ||
| A couple of books called Technocracy. | ||
| The one, Hard Road to a World Order. | ||
| So Patrick, walk us through Technocracy. | ||
| How did it get seeded? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| And where is it taking us? | ||
| Well, Steve, the whole idea of technocracy really crystallized back in the 1930s, and it's basically the same today as it was back then. | ||
| In my opinion, we see the same expression of it philosophically today as we saw in the 30s. | ||
| The idea basically is to turn the world, all of society and the people in it, into a mechanistic model where everything is driven by what they call the scientific method. | ||
| There's no other source of truth accepted or considered. | ||
| If it can't be demonstrated in a lab or in an engineering program, then it's just not real to them. | ||
| This was the idea when they created the economic system called technocracy in the 1930s. | ||
| But it's since and recent times morphed into the movement with transhumanism. | ||
| Now I see them as very, very closely connected. | ||
| In fact, I did a big presentation about several weeks ago called The Evil Twins of Technocracy and Transhumanism. | ||
| They do seem to be joined at the hip now. | ||
| The philosophical proposition behind it is very similar to scientism, which was explained extensively in the last century. | ||
| And it basically sets science up as a god, and everything else is excluded. | ||
| All other sources of truth are excluded. | ||
| If it can't be defined within science, they don't believe it. | ||
| So transhumanism today, the way I explain it to people now trying to get their hands wrapped around it is, technocracy is to society and the structure of society as transhumanism is to the people who will live in that society. | ||
| We see this language now on the World Economic Forum's website, for instance. | ||
| They're talking exactly in those terms. | ||
| Not only will be the great reset of the society, economic society, but there's going to be the great reset of humanity at the same time. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Talk to us about, we got about a minute, Zygmunt Brzezinski, his role in this and driving this forward back in the 70s. | ||
| Well, Zbigniew Brzezinski in many ways was kind of the ideological founding father of this concept when he wrote a book just before 1970 called Between Two Ages, America's Role in the Technotronic Era. | ||
| He proposed that Marxism and socialism etc were stepping stones to that final technotronic era where technology would take over like we see today and it would become the driving factor for the future of humanity at that point. | ||
| He called it the technotronic era. | ||
| When I discovered Technocracy about 10, 12, 13 years ago, I went back and read his book again, and I wondered, because he was at Columbia University—that's where Technocracy started in the 30s—I just wondered, was that a play somehow, Technotronic on Technocratic? | ||
| And lo and behold, I found out that it was! | ||
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And so, he was very astute, he was— Patrick, hang on for one second. | |
| We're going to take a short break. | ||
| Joe Allen, Patrick Wood, the author of Technocracy, back with us in a moment. | ||
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| If in the beginning we were basically like just another species of chimpanzee, that yeah, you live in small bands, but you rely mainly on yourself and your immediate friends and family. | ||
| Now we are basically like a species of ants. | ||
| We live in a huge, huge colony in which each one has this tiny role to play, and we cannot survive outside the colony. | ||
| And this will only increase or go to extremes in the 21st century because with especially the rise of brain-computer interfaces and biometric sensors and so forth, it is very likely that within, say, 50 years, people will literally be part of a network. | ||
| All the bodies, all the brains would be connected together to a network And you won't be able to survive if you're disconnected from the net. | ||
| Because your own body parts, your own immune system, perhaps depends on being constantly connected to the colony, to the network. | ||
| I doubt whether Homo sapiens will still be around in 200 years. | ||
| Given the pace of technological development, in 200 years, either we destroy ourselves, By some nuclear catastrophe or ecological catastrophe, all we will upgrade and change ourselves into something very different from Homo sapiens. | ||
| So that in 200 years, Earth is dominated by entities which are more different from us than we are different from Neanderthals. | ||
| Different bodies, different brains, different minds. | ||
| Upgrade from Homo Sapiens and this is not science fiction. | ||
| This is actually working towards at least the building blocks of it are now scientific fact in research labs, weapons labs, the Wuhan lab. | ||
| It's one of the reasons I think Fauci was so adamant about no one going to investigate in Dasik, this kind of concept of scientism. | ||
| They did not want the unwashed masses, even investigators, into the Wuhan lab. | ||
| Scientism, that's like the high church for them. | ||
| It's high church. | ||
| So, and he's saying an upgrade, a total upgrade of the species, not this convergence point that will happen obviously many decades or centuries beforehand. | ||
| That's what we're talking about today, the convergence of this. | ||
| I want to bring back in Patrick Ward. | ||
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| Okay, Patrick Wood. | ||
| Walk us through your analysis of the author of Homo Deus, who was interviewed by Anderson Cooper on 60 Minutes. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I have some fairly strong and old observations about Harari I've been following for a long time. | ||
| He's a brilliant man. | ||
| There's absolutely no doubt about that. | ||
| He's got a lot of smarts and he's very articulate. | ||
| He's able to explain things in a way that sounds, wow, where did he come up with this stuff? | ||
| I want to suggest to you, That where he hears these ideas first is not coming from his own brain and just reading the newspapers. | ||
| These are the things that he hears from the global elite that are talking about these things in the first place and pouring money into it. | ||
| And we see evidence of this going way back, for instance, to the Biodiversity Convention that was held in 1992 at the Rio de Janeiro Earth Summit, the first UNESCO meeting on sustainable development. | ||
| One participant, an eyewitness, wrote after that meeting in 1992, he said, the main stake raised by the Biodiversity Convention is the issue of ownership and control over biological diversity. | ||
| The major concern, he wrote, was protecting the pharmaceutical and emerging biotechnology industries. | ||
| These people were talking about this openly behind closed doors. | ||
| I say openly behind closed doors. | ||
| That's where they had drink the scotch and smoke cigars, I guess. | ||
| But, you know, they were discussing this a lot back in those days and even before that. | ||
| This is where Harari comes up with his ideas. | ||
| And we should not be so awed by him as we should take a clue that there are deep, deep roots in the globalist movement that goes back decades. | ||
| Walk us through those roots. | ||
| The roots started of modern globalization in the day that Zbigniew Brzezinski stepped forward with David Rockefeller, the money man, to create what we know now and knew then as the Trilateral Commission, a group of very global elite corporations, politicians, lawyers, media, etc. | ||
| from Japan, North America and Europe. | ||
| They set the tone and the stage for modern globalization that we're dealing with now. | ||
| They had in their original vision, especially as it matured in the 1980s, they had a vision for the technological remake of the world. | ||
| We saw that clearly in 1992, for instance, at the Agenda 21 conference and the Convention on Biodiversity. | ||
| This is what came out of it. | ||
| This is what we have today. | ||
| Sustainable development is all that the World Economic Forum talks about these days. | ||
| And this whole business of emerging biotechnology industries? | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| They have now emerged. | ||
| Duh! | ||
| And they're here. | ||
| We're looking at them. | ||
| We're looking at the Pfizer's. | ||
| We're looking at the Moderna's. | ||
| We're looking at the, you know, all the big, you know, companies that are making these genetically engineered systems to stick needles into human bodies to start to change the human condition. | ||
| There'll be no end to this if we don't stop it. | ||
| And I would say the time to stop it is now. | ||
| In fact, there's a lot of resistance, as you know, around the world to this incursion on the quote-unquote human experience. | ||
| I want to go, Joe, I want to bring you in then back to Patrick, but I want, Harari's point, because if you look at technology, you know, you've got human nature as kind of a flat, and you've got technology from time immemorial kind of slow, tiny upgrade, then you have the invention of the steam engine, right, in what, the 18, early 19th century. | ||
| And from the steam engine, boom, you have an explosion. | ||
| The Industrial Revolution, and now into the Post-Industrial Revolution, and now into the next revolution of, I guess, the Digital Revolution. | ||
| And it's accelerating at an accelerating rate. | ||
| Harari says, we're going to upgrade. | ||
| We're going to upgrade from Homo sapien as a species. | ||
| Not kind of onesies twosies, which I'm talking about on the singularity, but after the singularity, we're going to upgrade as a species within 200 years. | ||
| Joe Allen. | ||
| What does that mean and what are the implications of that? | ||
| A more cautious timeline than somebody like Kurzweil, but they basically run on the same sort of ideological foundation. | ||
| So the idea is that human beings evolved biologically for, you know, you could say six million years from the first primates or for some 250,000 years as something like homo sapiens. | ||
| And then for the last Ten thousand years. | ||
| We've had agricultural societies that have dramatically changed the way in which these biological forms operate. | ||
| And the social structure was completely different from the hunter-gatherers. | ||
| And what this fourth industrial revolution proposes to be, ...is in many ways as dramatic a transformation of the natural human state as the agricultural revolution was. | ||
| So this will include everything from genetic engineering to select out what would have taken natural selection, you know, many millennia, to select out what are desired traits, and then beyond this sort of perfected biological form, which will You know, inevitably wear down. | ||
| You also have all of these different technological augmentations that will allow for anything from, you know, at the far end of it, brain computer interfaces with advanced artificial intelligence that's far more intelligent than a human being. | ||
| We're even just, you know, a little closer in. | ||
| As a heart valve goes out, already there are synthetic heart valves that can be put in. | ||
| They just want to continue doing this until, basically, in the future, and in their view, in the not-too-distant future, human beings are no longer what we evolved to be, but what we are creating. | ||
| Harari oftentimes uses the formula that natural selection made human beings, and from here on out, intelligent design will create the new human beings. | ||
| Human intelligent design. | ||
| Patrick Wood, thoughts, comments, analysis. | ||
| I think that's exactly right. | ||
| And you know, we've had so far, let's say since the 1990s, we've had seeds being engineered extensively by companies like Monsanto. | ||
| We've had insects being genetically engineered like trying to wipe out the mosquito population in Florida. | ||
| We've seen animal genetic modification where animals now, cattle and pigs, are double muscled and pigs that glow in the dark and stuff like that. | ||
| The last frontier, Steve, is the human body. | ||
| We're the last ones that haven't been genetically engineered yet and now they're coming for us. | ||
| This is not really a new concept to the globalist mind, but it's a new concept to people on the street. | ||
| The reason people are having a hard time with uptake, I believe, we could go back and re-read the book, Future Shock, back in the 70s with Alvin Toffler, I believe it was, that said, there will be a day when technology gets so advanced that people will just not be able to even grasp it. | ||
| It will seem like, appear like magic to them. | ||
| This is kind of where we're at today, but it's not magic. | ||
| It's very real. | ||
| Is globalization an intermediate point in this journey of the global elites? | ||
| Well, it radically changed in the early 70s from this, and this was Dr. Richard Gardner, an early founding member of the Commission, said in one of his articles in Foreign Affairs Magazine, he noted that the frontal assault, the frontal attempts that they had had previous to 1973 didn't work. | ||
| And they were tired of that. | ||
| So they said, we're going to create, we're going to do an end run around national sovereignty, chipping away piece by piece throughout the world until all national sovereignty is gone. | ||
| This set the tone for a new type of globalization, where they assumed that the world would become interdependent, all sewn together to be one big happy family. | ||
| That's what we see in the United Nations now. | ||
| That's what they say. | ||
| This all came and sprung from the early days of the Trilateral Commission, where they wanted to create an interdependent world. | ||
| Well, I guess you say they have done it, not successfully, but they've done it. | ||
| They said they were going to save the world. | ||
| Everything they've done, every policy they've implemented has done just the opposite. | ||
| It's left the world worse off in the end. | ||
| If I could jump in on that real quick. | ||
| Yeah, go ahead, do it. | ||
| So, you know, going back to the World Economic Forum and some of the current work there, Parag Khanna, who was groomed by the World Economic Forum, just published a book called Move. | ||
| And the idea behind Move is that the human race is a superorganism, as Harari described, but as we design human societies going forward, we will have to Intentionally reshuffle billions of people around the population, primarily to bring people from the global south up to the global north to replace the young people that are not being born here. | ||
| It's all within his body of work, deeply tied to technocracy and transhumanism, openly described as technocracy in his work. | ||
| It's absolutely, I think it would be devastating to the extent that it's adopted. | ||
| You're absolutely right. | ||
| Let's take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return. | ||
| Patrick, we're going to ask you to stay over one more segment. | ||
| Patrick Wood, the author of Technocracy, the Hard Road to World Order. | ||
| We're going to put these up in the chat rooms and on the site so you can get it. | ||
| Of course, Joe Allen, our editor on all things transhumanism. | ||
| The Transhumanist Revolution special in the War Room continues next. | ||
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| Well, nobody knows for sure what the job market would look like in 2040, but it's likely, it's possible. | ||
| Given all the technological developments, it might be feasible, even easy, to support people, even if they don't work. | ||
| To give them a universal basic income, to give them enough food, enough medicine, and so forth. | ||
| The big question is meaning. | ||
| What will they do all day? | ||
| And one of the answers is that they will just play computer games all day. | ||
| Virtual reality games. | ||
| They will spend more and more time playing virtual reality games that will give them Much more excitement and emotional engagement than anything in the real world outside. | ||
| And this is actually not a very new, this is not a completely new idea. | ||
| You can say that for thousands of years already people, millions of people, have found meaning in playing virtual reality games. | ||
| We just call these games religions. | ||
| What is a religion? | ||
| Another way to understand a religion is religion is a virtual reality game. | ||
| They tell you there are these laws. | ||
| You should pray five times a day. | ||
| You should do this ceremony. | ||
| You should do that ceremony. | ||
| If you follow these imaginary laws of the game that exist only in the imagination, they're not part of nature. | ||
| Then you get points. | ||
| If you break the laws, then you lose points. | ||
| And if, by the time you die, you have a positive balance, then you move to the next level, heaven. | ||
| And people have been playing these virtual reality games very happily for thousands of years. | ||
| So, why not in the 21st century? | ||
| Okay, welcome back to War and Pandemic. | ||
| This is our special, the Transhumanist Revolution. | ||
| Now I want to bring in James Polis, the co-founder and executive editor of the American Mind over at the Claremont Institution, author of an amazing new book, Human Forever, The Digital Politics of Spiritual War. | ||
| Joe Allen, cut that for us, James. | ||
| He's my co-host today. | ||
| Tell me about, what are your thoughts about Harari? | ||
| Well, I gotta say, you know, that clip that you just played, I mean, this is a monstrous misconstrual, and deliberately so, of what religion is. | ||
| This is not a game that people choose to play in order to make themselves happy. | ||
| I mean, every person who's a serious adherent to a major world religion knows that that is a spiritual attack on the very idea Of religion. | ||
| I mean, you know, look, you look at a guy like Harari and you look at his biography. | ||
| I mean, this is a guy who, you know, looks like he couldn't bench press the bar. | ||
| He's, you know, gay married, meditates two hours every day just to make it out of bed in the morning, Oxford educated, trained by a secular Buddhist. | ||
| No kids, no smartphone. | ||
| If you think someone like that is going to tell us the truth about how we need to or how we can remain human in order to survive in a digital age, you're kidding yourself. | ||
| And of course, he doesn't think that we can remain human. | ||
| He says that we're going to destroy ourselves with nuclear weapons or burn up the earth to a cinder, and that's why we need to abandon our humanity. | ||
| I mean, this stuff goes all the way back to some of the earliest Gnostic doctrines that have been poisoning every major religion, you know, at least in the West, and in some cases elsewhere over the past 2,000 years. | ||
| You know, the idea that the body's a prison, that it was created by an evil demiurge, that the only way that we can be pure and be who we really are is to shatter that prison, emancipate the pure spark of consciousness within. | ||
| And that vision, you know, the vision that we have no souls, that nature is bad, that religion is a figment of the imagination. | ||
| I mean, this is a fundamental attack on our human memory, and our faculty of memory is crucial to surviving in the digital age, because really what we've got right now are machines that have, you know, incredible powers of recollection and recall, but don't function in the way that we They don't have the kind of memory that we have. | ||
| They certainly don't have the consciousness that we have, and the attempt to merge these two things into a single entity is an idea, as we heard previously in the last segment, that goes back way before the invention of the computer, even. | ||
| My point is not to just beat up on Harari for his biography or his identity, but the point is, if you look back to where these ideas came from, the provenance of these spiritual claims, They come from a class of globalizing elites who did not understand the digital technology that they were creating, did not expect to do what it's been doing, and they're scrambling, they're embarrassed. | ||
| They thought of themselves as the very smartest and most ethical experts in the world. | ||
| The machines that they created basically did not follow the script. | ||
| They thought that their math was deterministic enough that they would be able to program these entities and control them in the swarms that they form around the world. | ||
| That's not what happened, and that's why they're cracking down. | ||
| That's why we got great reset. | ||
| That's why we're moving so fast from social media to social credit, and from there to manipulate the swarm version of social justice. | ||
| And at the core is the basic idea that it's a spiritual attack on our humanity because it's a disenchanted view of what it means to be human. | ||
| Whether you're Eastern Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant, Hindu, Taoist, you can run up and down the list. | ||
| All those religions Recognize that our humanity is core to our existence and that, you know, the Gnostic heresy of sort of shattering or exercising godlike control over our bodies to deconstruct them and set the spark free is really, you know, something that's not going to advance us to the next level but is going to reduce us to a subhuman condition. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We've got James for one more segment. | ||
| He's got to take off. | ||
| The book is Human Forever, The Digital Politics of Spiritual War by James Polis. | ||
| It's a counter, really a counter, to I think a lot of the agenda and the ideology of the transhumanist and the globalist. | ||
| So we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return. | ||
| We've got Joe Allen, our editor of all things transhumanist. | ||
| We've got Patrick Wood, the author of Technocracy. | ||
| This is the special, the Transhumanist Revolution, here on War Room Pandemic, as we drill down to try to give you signal, not noise. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back with James Polis, executive editor of American Mind and author of the book, Human Forever, in a moment. |
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