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Episode 1,360 – Jan 6th Was A Failed Intelligence OperationEpisode 1,360 – Jan 6th Was A Failed Intelligence Operation
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Joe Biden won the election last November.
He's the legitimately elected president of the United States.
Do you dispute any of those facts?
Look, he's in the White House.
He won the election.
You also have to acknowledge that we had a presidential election, an election generally unlike any we had ever had, because we suspended the rules because of the terrible pandemic.
And that resulted in us not following the verification of voters in these states.
To be clear, there has been no findings of widespread voter fraud that would impact the outcome of this election.
No, that is true.
What you're saying is on the widespread piece of this.
Look, I don't believe it would change the outcome of the election.
But I will tell you, a lot of people out there are very concerned about election integrity.
I think it's important.
If you both believe that Joe Biden is the legitimately elected president of the United States.
Joe Biden is my president and I want him to succeed and I want him to project strength overseas.
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We have never participated in any kind of rhetoric that would undermine that.
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Elections have consequences and stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
steve bannon
Let's just cut to the chase.
jake tapper
The House voted on Friday to hold former Trump ally Steve Bannon in criminal contempt of Congress for ignoring a subpoena.
Do you think people who refuse to comply with congressional subpoenas should be prosecuted by the Justice Department and at the end of the day go to jail?
nancy pelosi
Yes.
jake tapper
You do?
nancy pelosi
I do.
I do.
Well, first of all, this, you know, people say, well, this hasn't happened before.
We haven't had an insurrection incited by the President of the United States and one of his toadies having knowledge of, advanced knowledge of that happening.
So, in fact, it's important for a number of reasons.
It's important for us to find the truth.
Absolutely.
what happened on January 6th, an assault on our Constitution, our Congress, and our Capitol. But it's also important to, in terms of the separation of power and checks and balances of the Constitution, which is the genius of the Constitution, for this to happen in this way. So you're willing, if the committee decides to subpoena Trump, you're willing to have that happen too?
I'm not.
They have everything on the table.
I don't get involved in the decisions of the committee.
But when you say if he should do this and go to jail, well, he'll be tried and see.
steve bannon
OK, welcome to The War Room.
We're live from Pima County, Arizona.
We're in the desert for the next couple of days.
Been here since since Saturday.
Invited out here by the Pima County GOP.
Gave a speech like we gave in Gettysburg.
Pima County is a center of Kind of the center of all this now as the full forensic audit spreads to Pima County and the beginning of the decertification movement starts to get traction here.
Nancy Pelosi called me a toady.
Nancy, come on.
You're master strategist.
Don't be throwing out insults.
I'm a toady?
Wow.
Pretty cutting.
It's Monday, 25th of October, Year of Our Lord 2021.
Now, obviously, over 100 million downloads in the podcast, podcast weekend.
The Dr. Naomi Wolf and Dr. Peter Navarro, if you haven't had a chance to look at Saturday's show, make sure it's up on the podcast.
Go to the site warren.org.
Make sure you get it and go and watch it sometime today.
Very, very special.
We've got a really overwhelming amount of comments about the back and forth between Dr. Wolf and Dr. Navarro on vaccines.
We're going to get into all that.
We've got Rahim Ghassan, I'm John Furrier.
Packed show today.
I want to start with Darren Beattie.
Revolver.News.
By the way, Nancy Pelosi is in a race against time.
Just let me just put a framework of what's happening.
They're there with this insane social justice warrior spending $3.5 trillion.
They're trying to say now it's going to be under $2 trillion.
It's $1.75 trillion.
They're trying to get all the programs in place.
She's in a race against time.
They have to announce something this week.
Because, I mean, something they can vote on.
And the reason is that they've got the Virginia elections coming up, which other polls out this morning, absolute dead heat between Terry McAuliffe and the Republican candidate.
And here's the thing.
They say they won Virginia by nine and a half or ten and a half points, you know, less than a year ago.
Trump lost Virginia by ten and a half points.
And right now it's a dead heat.
They're absolutely panicked.
They're panicked about About losing in Virginia, losing the House of Delegates.
Obama shows up in Richmond, and Raheem Kassamah will have more of this at the bottom of the hour.
Obama shows up in Richmond, my hometown, on Saturday in the middle of the afternoon at the VCU, at the university, with tens of thousands of kids.
It's in a neighborhood surrounded Jackson Ward, one of the fine old neighborhoods in Richmond, predominantly black.
And Obama, I think, draws the paper said 2,000.
It looked like maybe a thousand.
Obama's lost his juice.
There's just no interest.
And then they're interviewing kids.
Nobody had any idea about the upcoming election.
No interest in it at all.
So Nancy Pelosi's in a race against time with this incredible transformation of the U.S.
She's trying to do with this radical spending program.
So we're going to we're going to be all over this for the next 10 days.
Actually, John Frederick's going to have the bus take the John Frederick's radio show on the on tour.
I think we're going to join him also in certain areas of Virginia.
MAGA's got to turn out to vote.
No, I do not hope that Joe Biden succeeds.
I do not.
Because Joe Biden is illegitimate first.
Number two, he's got a radical plan of border invasions, of creating terrorist super states, of kowtowing to China.
of blowing up the American economy, runaway inflation.
Jack Dorsey, who I'm no fan of, Jack Dorsey's from Twitter, the CEO, he's tweeting out about hyperinflation, hyperinflation coming to the United States.
We saw what happened last time that hyperinflation hit one of the Western democracies in Germany in the 1930s, okay?
So, that's from Jack Dorsey.
Let's bring in Darren Beattie right now.
Darren Beattie's been all over the 6th of January.
Nancy Pelosi won't be thrown out.
She's throwing everybody in prison.
She says it's the biggest insurrection.
Nancy's got to do some checks here.
This commission's got to get to the bottom of what happened.
And Darren Beattie over at Revolver says it's pretty simple.
It's not a failure of intelligence.
It's a failed intelligence operation By operatives of the United States government and the United States national security apparatus.
Remember, we do not believe in conspiracy theories on this show.
We get to the facts.
And look at what's happened at Tony Fauci.
We have a lot about Fauci in today's show.
We have a lot about the Wuhan lab, a lot about vaccines, a lot about what people mocked and ridiculed the show when they first did.
And it's all come true.
100% of it has all come true.
And that's why people watch the show.
They want to get tomorrow's news today.
Darren Beatty, you have a lead story up on your site.
You introduced the country to a guy named Mr. Epps.
Tell us about Epps and tell us why it's important that we should know about him and why it's kind of shocking that we're, I don't know, eight or nine months away from 6th January and now it takes the courageous and brilliant, you know, editorial capabilities and writing capabilities of Darren Beattie and the rest of the team at revolver.news to put this story up, sir.
darren j beattie
Well, first of all, this is a huge story.
This is a hugely important story, and it's absolutely fresh at Revolver.News.
It's so fresh, in fact, that I've been up all night, and we're still reeling from some minor technical difficulties.
So if you go to Revolver.News, you'll read this piece.
It's white hot.
If you try to check it out on Safari Mobile, however, it could have some issues temporarily.
So what is this issue?
Who is Ray Epps?
And how does he threaten to expose the entire sham and lie of the 1-6 narrative that's been shoved down our throats by Nancy Pelosi and others?
Well, we can thank a certain courageous congressman, Thomas Massey, for breathing new air into this story and into this narrative.
In fact, when he was questioning the Attorney General Merrick Garland, he showed a video, a video that in fact had popped up on the internet
A few months back of an old gentleman in a in a red hat on January 5th the evening before repeatedly telling the crowd tomorrow here's what we need to do we need to go into the Capitol on repeated occasions on January 6 we have this guy saying that seemingly out of the blue and in fact the reaction from the Trump supporters is literally what a
And they call him a fed, to his face, because this isn't how Trump supporters act.
It's so clearly out of character, and he's going repeatedly telling people we need to go into the Capitol.
There's video footage of all of this on the revolver.news piece, and every single instance he does this.
Then, sure enough, the next day, on January 6th, you see this same individual everywhere, everywhere around the Capitol, very calmly, in a very collected, detached, Professional manner.
This guy, it looks like he's a pro, telling people, corralling people, we need to go over here.
We need to go to the Capitol.
This is where our problems are.
And then at noon or just shortly after noon, this is before the president's speech is even done.
In fact, when it's just beginning, you have this same individual right with The smaller crowd, right where the very first breach of the Capitol happened.
And in fact, the very first person, this is the person who's been indicted, the very first person alleged to have committed a crime on 16th, who broke the very first barrier, literally 20 seconds before he breaks the barrier, there's this same individual, an individual we now know to be Ray Epps, whispering in the ear of the guy who breaks the same barricade.
He's literally everywhere.
He says we need to go into the Capitol the day before, and from there to 20 seconds before the breach, this guy is literally everywhere.
And so that's the starting point for this investigative piece.
Who is this guy?
What do we know about him?
And what does he expose about the lie of 1-6?
steve bannon
This is pretty stunning.
And it's nasty to put it up in front of Merrick Garland's face.
By the way, we're going to have some details on the polling of Merrick Garland with Raheem Rasmussen's out with some polling that just break at the top of the show.
Raheem's going to be here to walk you through it.
I want to go back over this because I want to make sure people understand how important this is and how we've been lied to and spun around what the core of this thing is.
Talk about the group that Ray Epps is with and why this coordinates with other investigative analytical work that you've been doing.
darren j beattie
So this piece is so incredibly long and so incredibly rich, I can't help to do it justice.
It's truly one of our best, if not the best investigative reports.
I think the best investigative report, arguably, of the year.
Now, I can give you some highlights though, and just some really interesting things.
So again, You have this guy who's like the only guy caught on video anywhere in advance, explicitly saying we need to go in the Capitol.
And you have him whispering in the guy, the person's ear, who is the very first person to breach.
Naturally, just like person number one, the head of the Oath Keepers, this guy remains unindicted when everyone else is swooped up.
This guy, Ray Epps, is unindicted.
The feds have taken no action on him, despite initially The Feds actually included Ray Epps on their Most Wanted group.
They called out to the public.
They said, public, this guy is so dangerous.
He's such a such a key figure.
Help us identify him.
The Internet did its thing and actually delivered and they actually first identified Epps and the government's not interested.
And actually, one of the many breaking details in this Revolver piece is that we were able to interpolate, using the Wayback Machine, the exact moment that the FBI scrubbed Ray Epps' photo from its Most Wanted page.
It was actually July 1st, a day after Revolver News published its piece on Stuart Rhodes, which is very interesting.
So why did the FBI all of a sudden scrub The picture of this Ray Epps character who is seemingly so instrumental in orchestrating the very first breach of the Capitol.
Why did they take him down?
Well, one reason could be that we just the day earlier published a Stuart Rhodes piece.
And two weeks prior to that, we published a piece that opened up the entire narrative that caused people to ask, what's the FBI's role in this?
And there was a Twitter thread on him.
So the timing is very interesting.
The FBI just removes this guy from the piece.
So why would they be especially sensitive to Ray Epps in light of renewed publicity on Stuart Rhodes?
Well, guess what?
Ray Epps, in his long and storied history, he was a military guy, he was a Marine, all that.
But he was also the head of the Arizona chapter of the Oath Keepers.
In fact, Stuart Rhodes was technically his boss in that capacity.
steve bannon
This is, he's, he's, Ray Epps is the deputy to Stuart Rhodes.
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Okay.
The watchword here is decertification.
Let me just be blunt.
We're not here in the war room to help Joe Biden.
We're just not.
Okay.
Because he is out to radically transform this country and we're the opposition.
That's the way the system's set up.
Just like they were the opposition to Donald Trump.
You didn't see us whining.
Did you ever see Steve Bannon whine about all the crap they pulled on Russia and everything else?
The answer is no.
It is what it is.
And guess what?
We're crushing this illegitimate regime in the crib.
Okay?
So Benny, suck on that.
Okay?
We're crushing it in the crib.
With independent voters, with Hispanic voters, with African-American males, with people that this regime is out to break.
Okay?
And we're not going to back off one inch.
We owe it not just to our children, to our grandchildren, and to ourselves.
We owe it to every generation that's made the United States of America the greatest nation in the history of the earth.
Okay?
So do not think that you're going to intimidate us in any way, shape, or form.
And what Darren Beatty is breaking, and this is why I want to go back to it over and over, we're going to be all over this, I need every member of the posse, I need every member to be a force multiplier in this, and let's blow it out.
When independent voters see this, they're going to be outraged.
What did the FBI know?
What did the national security apparatus know?
What does Wray know?
What does Merrick Garland know?
And what did they not tell the President of the United States?
What did they not tell Donald Trump?
What did they plan?
What did they plot?
And what did they hide from Donald J. Trump when he was Commander-in-Chief?
This is an outrage.
You talk about coups, I can show you a coup and we will show you a coup.
No conspiracy.
We're gonna connect hard dots.
And right now you got Stuart Rhodes and his deputy, Ray Epps, right?
Of this organization, Oath Keepers, that are up to their neck in this.
I want to turn back to Darabedi.
I want to go back to the 5th.
We're pulling the footage, but I want to describe what happened on the 5th, particularly with the Trump supporters.
What did Epps lay out there?
By the way, when you watch these videos, and thank God for Tom Massey, the super libertarian out there in Kentucky.
Remember, Brother Massey and I don't agree on a lot, right?
But he's done a magnificent job on this.
It's just incredibly outrageous what went on here.
And here's the thing about Epps when you watch him.
He's cool as a cucumber.
There were some pretty heated days there.
People are getting all worked up.
He's cool as a cucumber.
You know why?
It looks like he's been there before.
It doesn't look like this is his first rodeo, if you know what I mean.
And by the way, you can watch it on the videotape.
Darren Beattie, take me back to the 5th.
What is Ray Epps doing to work people up?
darren j beattie
Oh, it's really incredible, and all of the video footage is in this revolver.news piece and more.
And so, as you pointed out, the story with Ray Epps, in this sense, begins on the evening of January 5th, where you have a bunch of scattered different groups.
There are BLM groups, there are various Trump supporters, there are people who are upset for different reasons, there are people upset about the vote, there are people who are upset about The Fed, you just have a disparate group and the energies are dissipated.
And one consistent feature is you have this guy, Ray Epps, going around to the different groups trying to rally them behind a single cause.
Go into the Capitol.
We need to go into the Capitol peacefully.
And several times when he suggests this, the reaction is immediate and emphatic.
The Trump supporter crowd Keep in mind, the Trump rallies, how many Trump rallies have there been?
Thousands.
Not any example of a riot going on.
And so the mere suggestion of doing something like breaking into the Capitol, going into the Capitol, is enough to identify someone as someone with an ulterior agenda.
And so immediately when he suggests this, the crowd says, no, what?
Are you crazy?
And then starts chanting to his face, Fed, fed, fed, fed.
Nonetheless, as you point out, this guy, I almost have to admire him.
If you look at the video, I have to admire his professionalism.
Because he's so cool, he's so collected, he's so detached, and he's so persistent.
And he's constantly going around different groups.
There's a little skirmish between BLM people and Trump supporters.
He goes in there and he tries to smooth it over and basically says, Don't worry about this.
We're not here to fight about this.
We're here about the Constitution, and that's why we need to go into the Capitol.
That's where our problems are.
Constantly corralling people, constantly focusing people on this apparent mission, which is established as much as the evening before in explicit terms as going into the Capitol.
And of course, he adds, peacefully, when people call him a fed.
And in fact, one of the many just hidden gems within this revolver.news piece is a little-known thread, actually, by people who originally identified Jaden X, another figure discussed in this piece, as a fed, and it actually lists 12 characteristics of provocateurs and how provocateurs act.
Basically every single 12 of these criteria apply to Ray Epps and incidentally they also seem to apply to the founder and head and still unindicted and still not yet to be properly searched, head of the Oath Keepers, Stuart Rose.
steve bannon
Okay, looks like it froze up there.
I don't know if it's going out over there in Beattie.
Well, we've got to maybe get Raheem Kassam up.
Okay, here's what we know.
And here's what the audience has to do, and particularly for the podcast audience and all that.
Here's what we need to do.
We need to get the revolver piece out to everybody.
We need to get the revolver piece.
It's a landmark piece.
It's about the investigation into the Oath Keepers, and it's about the investigation, particularly a guy named Ray Epps.
Ray Epps is Stuart Rhodes's deputy, right?
It's his deputy and he gives this talk, and Ray Massey got the video.
He gave the talk on the eve of January 6th, telling people, hey, let's go into the Capitol.
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Who?
steve bannon
What nutcase would tell people to go into the Capitol on the 5th?
There's absolutely no reason to do this.
Zero reason to do this.
This is why you got to get to the bottom of, you've got to get to the bottom of, exactly who these guys are.
Are these guys we need to know, and remember, nobody's been charged with insurrection, right?
The New York Times tells us, not Revolver, not Human Events, not National Pulse, they all tell us that, they tell us right off the bat, That federal agents were in direct communications with some of their informants, with some of their informants at the Capitol during the time this was going on.
Okay?
We know for a fact, we know for a fact that there was 12 of the 18 participants in this plot to, what is it, kidnap Governor Whitmer or whatever this crazy stuff was happening in Michigan.
12 of the 18 are government informants.
Or there are government agents.
So here's the point.
If you're going to get to the bottom of January 6th, because it's pretty straightforward.
If you read the Washington Post, I want the Washington Post article from the weekend up.
The Washington Post, there was definitely an effort to talk to state legislators.
that thought from Arizona and Pennsylvania and Georgia and Wisconsin and Michigan, that thought that there was problems in the process, problems in the process, with how these electors were sent to Washington, D.C.
And what they wanted was, they wanted the vice president to send it back, send it back to their states, and that they would take 10 days.
They would take 10 days and in the 10 days they would work this thing out.
Okay?
In the 10 days they would work this thing.
They would go back through the process and check the process.
Exactly what we're doing today.
Remember, it's taken us almost a year.
We're coming up next Tuesday, Wednesday is basically a year, one year from when the election happened.
And we're still in this situation right now of In Arizona, you've had the first part of the full forensic audit, although you haven't had the full canvas, in Arizona, in Maricopa County.
We're here in Pima County.
We're in the desert right now to assist anybody in Pima County that needs to take it to the next level for forensic audit, also to start and to support the State Senate on a decertification process, right?
We're one year away from that.
In Pennsylvania, they're just going to court.
They've had this rebuttal to the subpoena charge that Shapiro doesn't have.
Right?
Does not want to have.
So you've got a full frenzy.
Right now, you're jammed up.
It's in Georgia.
And next week, they're talking about having a huge rally to force this to happen at a special legislature point.
All of this could have been taken.
...was followed on the 6th of January.
And what you had, and what we see here, is you had people that look like they're government agents, and the government will not answer questions.
...investigation said, hey, ...investigation I can't talk about.
That's not good enough.
That is not good enough.
Darren Beatty's theory of the case is quite simple.
His theory of the case is quite simple.
He says, hey, this is not a failure of intelligence.
Hold about it.
But it's a failed intelligence operation.
What we need to do today is quite simple.
We need to take away a slight.
Apologize for that.
Later, we got Raheem Kassam coming on, but take, you've got all the analytical tools you need.
Need to pick up, you need to go from, you Right now I need everybody to put this into the onto the our sites.
Everybody to push this out.
I need all the chat rooms to get this.
I need everybody right now to push. I have.
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steve bannon
Okay, we're back in, we're back in Pima County, Arizona, in the desert.
We want to bring in Darren B. Apologize for the technical problem, had a little technical problem there.
Darren, I want to, and by the way, got Rahim Ghassan about to come up.
Darren, talk to me about, talk to me about Ray Epps.
Go back one more time, because I want to make sure the audience is all over this revolver story.
darren j beattie
I can only cover the highlights, but as we've discussed, Ray Epps is the identity of this curious individual, newly made famous by Thomas Massey's heroic interrogation of A.G.
Garland, in which he showed the video of this individual on January 5th, the evening before the famous so-called, quote unquote, siege of the Capitol, when nobody's thinking about entering the Capitol.
It's not in anyone's mind.
It's the only explicit video of someone explicitly saying, we need to go into the Capitol.
And he's saying that the evening before.
He's saying it multiple times.
He's saying it to multiple groups of people.
He's noticing the disparate energies of the crowd and he's calmly, coolly in a collected, professional, even somewhat admirably professional fashion.
It's interesting to see how he operates.
He has a natural command of crowds.
And you see that in particular on January 6th.
He's just telling people, cool down, don't fight with BLM, don't do this, focus on the Constitution, whatever that means in this context, focus on the Constitution and let's go into the Capitol.
It's essentially his consistent message.
And it would be one thing if this were just some nut in the crowd.
Giving some nutty idea and that we're the end of it.
But it's not the end of it.
It's just the beginning.
Because on January 6th, you see him literally everywhere.
One of the videos that we compiled is almost humorous.
we call it the where's Waldo, where we show him at literally every place on the east side of the Capitol, on the west side of the Capitol, all around in different aspects of the crowd, calmly, coolly, in his collective fashion saying, we need to go to the Capitol, that's where our problems are, that's where our problems are.
And then a little afternoon, just as Trump's speech was beginning, when all of the people listening to the president weren't at the Capitol yet, he was there with a little group and he whispered into somebody's ear and 20 seconds later, the very first breach of the Capitol occurred.
20 seconds before, this guy is literally whispering in someone's ear.
So there's a chronology from the evening before, when he tells the incredulous crowd, we need to go into the Capitol, fast forward all the way to noon something on the sixth, where he whispers in someone's ear and 20 seconds later, the barricades are down.
And this is a person, of course, now everyone's grandma's been arrested.
Anyone who ever set foot within a mile of the Capitol on January 6th is arrested.
And yet this individual, who initially was featured in the FBI's January 6th Most Wanted picture, he hasn't been arrested.
We don't know if he's been searched.
What we do know is that a day after Revolver News' bombshell report on Stewart Rhodes, Oathkeeper Stewart Rhodes, A day after the FBI scrubs this guy Reps' photo from their entire public database.
That's what we know and that's one of the many extremely interesting bombshell findings in this Revolver.News piece.
steve bannon
Okay, Darren, can you hang over a second?
I want to bring Raheem Kassam in to get Raheem's perspective because I know National Pulse has been all over this too.
Raheem, you've had a chance to look at the Revolver.news story, Ray Epps.
I know you guys were one of the first guys also to be working on this and breaking it.
The New York Times has come out and said It's funny, once you start identifying Stuart Rhodes of the Oath Keepers, Ray Epps of the Oath Keepers, they come and say, hey we've looked at this and there's no conspiracy going on, there's nobody working.
Rahim, give us your thoughts and analysis.
raheem kassam
Well, I heard Darren mention Jaden X earlier on.
We were one of the first to see that sort of narrative playing out on social media and get to grips with what was really going on there, what was really going on with him being inside the Capitol, who the videographer he had.
was where his money was coming from, and especially CNN's role in hyping this character, Jaden X, and his role in the breach of the Capitol itself.
It is increasingly important that we don't let go of this thing because I think as this show has said from the very day that it happened, understanding what happened on January the 6th and understanding the key characters on January the 6th is not something that we shy away from.
We want a full investigation into this, a real investigation into this, not a Nancy Mace investigation into this, not a Nancy Pelosi investigation into this.
And the reason for all of this is becoming increasingly clear to the American public.
We saw the polling that came out on this last week where people are actually bored of the establishment mantra, bored of the corporate media mantra over January the 6th.
They've heard enough.
In their own testimonials in the surveys and the public polling about this from the authorities, we've seen Capitol Hill police officers in committee crying one moment and then on their Instagram feeds wearing, you know, F. Donald Trump shirts and in fact incitements to harm the former president of the United States.
So I think the case on this is clear now that we're beginning to find out more of these characters, more of these videos.
I wouldn't be surprised if you saw the American public, you know, taking to the streets to demand the release of thousands upon thousands of hours of more footage, because frankly, the narrative around January the 6th has already collapsed.
steve bannon
Raheem, before I go back to Darren, this thing on the 5th where EPS is sitting there telling Trump supporters and other peoples, we've got to go into the Capitol, it's like, dude, what are you talking about?
Right.
How stunning is that?
And why have they not?
Why is a little Jamie Raskin and Benny Thompson?
Why have they not put forward that to let the American people at least know what's going on here?
Because when Epps is trying to sell that and he's clearly trying to put that out there to sell it, it's pretty shocking.
And you got it on tape.
But why is the committee not all over this guy Epps?
And remember, Epps is Stuart Rhodes's deputies.
OK, they are two peas in a pod.
They're absolutely two peas in a pod.
Okay, so Rahim, this thing on the 5th, the night before, about actually telling people, putting it out there, let's go in the Capitol, like, who would possibly think that?
Remember, we had a million people, I think, on November, what was it, 12th, 13th, or 14th for that Saturday, the first big demonstration.
Not even a concept of going to the Capitol.
You had another rally, I think, with 50,000 people showed up on the day the electors met.
I think it was December 14th.
Not even a concept of this.
And yet you've got this guy who's a former, you know, either he's somehow either a veteran or some sort of associate with law enforcement.
You've got him throwing out there to the crowd.
Let's go into the Capitol, right?
What an insane move.
So, Rahim, your thoughts and analysis, and then I'll go back to Darren.
raheem kassam
Look, the Venn diagram of Washington, D.C.
and the people that operate in and around Washington, D.C.
of who is a politician, who is an FBI informant, and who are normal people is becoming smaller and smaller on the normal people side.
And Washington, D.C.
is just months away from becoming a place where everybody is either an FBI informant or a politician or both.
Absolutely.
And you look at the status quo ante, as it were, on January the 5th, as it were, when these so-called pipe bombs were placed on probably, I think, the most heavily policed neighbourhood where I sit right now in the entire world, one of the most heaviest photographed, monitored, ring-camered neighbourhoods in the entire world.
In the entire world.
And they still don't have answers as to who left these quote unquote credible pipe bombs.
And not just that, remember, but how those pipe bombs were sitting there all night and most of the day the next day until after the first, you know, entry into the Capitol building of some people.
And then the resources were redirected and all of this.
I mean, this this this beggars belief.
I mean, it's beyond parody.
It either points to a complete and utter moronic takeover of the authorities and the powers that be on Capitol Hill, which I don't think is the case, by the way.
I think plenty of people are supremely, dangerously intelligent up here on Capitol Hill, or it points out to something far more nefarious.
And I think that's what we're seeing playing out in real time here.
The idea, I regard myself as one of the best sourced people on the political right in terms of the number of people that reach out to me.
I know what's going to happen before it's going to happen.
So does Jack Posobiec, by the way.
And we walked down from the war room to the One America News studio that morning on January the 6th.
And not a single person over the course of the previous 24, 48, seven days or on the day itself had reached out to us and said that there is a plan to go into the Capitol building.
If they had done that, we would have likely reported on it because that is some big news.
And that didn't happen.
And so you can tell that this thing came from somewhere that was not MAGA.
steve bannon
Darren Beattie, you guys have done an incredible service to the American people.
We want to make sure everybody in the posse, let's get it out to all the chat rooms, all the forums.
We've got to push this thing out hard.
Walk us through one more time what you have here.
What should people look for?
And where's your reporting going from here?
darren j beattie
Well, so I think we've gone over the initial period of Epps here, and everyone just needs to go to revolver.news and watch the clips themselves, because the video clips really make the piece even more than all the investigative details.
The videos themselves speak for themselves.
As we wrap up this segment, I just want to conclude with another kind of major item in this piece that I think virtually no one is going to be familiar with, and that is that Um, one of the other curious developments that happened just before the FBI scrubbed Ray Epps from its website was the New York Times actually, as it's wont to do, published a damage control piece which ended up backfiring.
It backfired because it drew attention to Ray Epps in the first place.
It was a damage control piece because it falsely, absolutely falsely, said that Ray Epps appeared to be acting alone.
Now this Claim this false claim which we unravel in the second part of this revolver dot news piece exposes a whole new dimension of Devastating lies of the one six narrative because as you can see on the videos toward the end of revolver not news piece you have Reaps clearly coordinating with two individuals one One of those individuals, the person he whispers in his ear and 20 seconds later, he breaks down the barricade.
This person, I don't think is a fed at all.
In fact, quite the opposite.
I think he is just a foolish guy who got caught up with him.
And his story is actually very sad.
And he's like, he's been beaten up in prison by guards and everything.
It's a very sad story.
But there's another individual.
With whom Epps is coordinating, who has a litany of behaviors that seem to be very illegal, and yet he's still unknown and unindicted.
He's known by researchers as Maroon PB, and you have him doing the same exact spiel, going all over the Capitol, rallying people, ginning people up.
In fact, this Maroon PB actually went into the Capitol and was doing all kinds of things in the Capitol, and he was you know, violent toward police and there's all kinds of things. He remains untouched. He remains uninvestigated, it seems like. Nobody wants him, and he's someone who is directly coordinated, as it appears in these videos, with Epps. And yet, the New York Times say he acted alone.
Why is this?
Well, to conclude this point, it might be the very same reason that the poor guy, the poor schmuck who had his ear whispered in by Ray Epps and 20 seconds later he tears down the barricade This guy, very unusually, and even the left-wing researchers on this find it extremely unusual, but they can't bring themselves to accept the obvious conclusion that Revolver.News did, which is that it's a Fed thing.
So, this guy who tears down the barricade at the last minute, he's being charged individually.
He's not being charged as part of any conspiracy case.
And in fact, all of the details of the charges in this guy Uh, indicate that the feds are very interested in isolating his case so as to prevent any type of discovery that could reveal the fact that all the people whispering in his ear were federal agents, including very likely Reyes himself.
steve bannon
Darren, just hang on.
Short commercial break.
Raheem Kassam, Darren Beattie, War Room.
We'll be back in a moment.
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steve bannon
Okay, welcome back to The War Room.
I want to go back to Darren Beatty.
Darren, give us a wrap-up.
Tell people how they get more to the, get, they understand this more, the stories, not just today's story, but the other stories you've done, this investigation on 1.6.
darren j beattie
Well, the wrap-up is this, is that it's one thing, as we pointed out, if the Feds had foreknowledge of the events of 1.6, that's damning enough, because if they knew in advance and they did nothing to stop it, we have to conclude that They did this out of malicious political intent to allow this event to happen and then frame all Trump supporters as domestic terrorists.
But as Revolver.News reported from the very beginning, their truth is actually even darker than that they just let it happen on purpose to exploit for political reasons.
On the conspiracy charges side, We've uncovered in our groundbreaking reporting the extraordinary degree of federal protection given to none other than the founder and head of the main militia group imputed to 1-6.
That is Stuart Rhodes.
The fact that such a key person is being protected suggests there's much more active involvement on the Fed's part than mere sitting back and letting it happen.
Now this Epps piece opens up a whole new dimension of this incitement thesis.
Because here we have, incidentally, an Oath Keeper, and a former head of the Arizona chapter of the Oath Keeper, no less.
We have this individual, the only individual, with all the thousands of hours of footage, everything that they have, this is the only individual they have caught on tape explicitly and repeatedly He's advancing a plan to go into the Capitol and he's the guy whispering in the person's ear 20 seconds before the first breach.
You have this guy who's acting with a bunch of people and he's unindicted.
And not only is he unindicted, but the Feds literally scrubbed him off of their database a day after Revolver.News' major piece.
This Revolver.News piece, which I have to say, People are saying it's one of the best investigative pieces they've ever seen, and I have to agree.
This Revolver.News piece, when you read it and see how damning it is, don't stop there.
You need to share it.
You need to help amplify it.
We need to take this to the next level.
Massey did the first step.
Revolver.News did the second step.
Now it's up to your readers, your audience, the American people, who have all been targeted by the false narratives.
of what happened on 1.6.
Now it's time for us to act by reading this, sharing this, and turning up the pressure to 11.
steve bannon
Real quickly, how do people get to Revolver?
How do they follow you on social media?
How do they follow this?
darren j beattie
Go to revolver.news.
The piece is white hot and it's at the very top.
You'll love it.
Read the whole thing and share it.
As I said, I'm on Twitter.
I'll be Promoting little snippets of the piece throughout the day.
I'm at Twitter at Darren J. Beattie.
D-A-R-R-E-N-J-B-E-A-T-T-I-E.
steve bannon
Okay, Darren, thank you very much for joining us.
Blockbuster news coming from Revolver.
Let's play Raheem's clips.
We've got Raheem in for a couple of segments here to do some analysis this morning.
Let's play Raheem's clips of Boris Johnson in New Zealand.
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We'll do whatever we have to do to protect the public, but the numbers that we're seeing at the moment are fully in line with what we expected in the autumn and winter plan.
What we want people to do is to come forward and get their jabs.
We also want young people, we want kids at school to be getting their jabs with complete confidence.
There'll be booking systems opening from tomorrow in addition to the vaccination programme in schools.
So the message is that the boosters are fantastic.
I mean, the levels of protection are really very high, but it's also very, very important that you get one because the double vaccination provides a lot of protection against serious illness and death, but it doesn't That is what it is.
So, yep.
you against catching the disease and it doesn't protect you against passing it on.
So now is the time to get your...
You basically said this is going to be like, almost like, you probably don't see it like this, the two different classes of people, if you're vaccinated or if you're unvaccinated, you have all these rights.
If you are vaccinated...
That is what it is.
So, yep.
Yep.
Can you describe it?
You were previously hoping not to have to do that, I guess, when we still feel like we could maintain elimination across the whole country.
I guess that has now changed because... I think it was less because, necessarily, of the elimination determining that, and more because we, of course, maintained, and actually we have managed, very high vaccination rates, generally, without the use of certificates.
steve bannon
Two different classes of citizens.
Raheem Kassam in a buried lead, explosive buried lead coming out of Boris Johnson, the leader of the British government.
Tory, we got about a minute and a half here.
Raheem, tee this up, we're bringing you back over the break.
What is going on here?
raheem kassam
Just think about it.
Just think about what we just heard.
You have the British Prime Minister saying that the vaccines don't stop you catching COVID and they don't stop you passing it on.
So then what is the point of a vaccine passport?
What is the point of an accreditation system at all in that regard?
And then you have the New Zealand Prime Minister, this is a once free nation, saying that she intends to create a two-tier society, two separate classes of people, the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, considering that it doesn't stop you catching it and it doesn't stop you spreading it.
These are the two pieces of information that America needs to realize could very well be the case here incredibly soon, unless you stand up to this kind of tyranny.
Jacinda Ardern has decided to be a tyrant.
Boris Johnson has decided once again to be a buffoon, admitting that you cannot stop catching it and you cannot stop passing it on, but get the booster anyway.
Nonsense, but also tyrannical.
And America, You know, you're the last ones left.
So, I mean, this is really important that you internalize this.
steve bannon
Okay, we're gonna bring Raheem back.
He's got a lot to go through today on analytics, on polls, a lot of things going on.
But I gotta tell you, if you look at Melbourne, Australia, if you look at New Zealand, look at now the United Kingdom, Italy's on the brink of almost seems like a civil war.
It is these vaccine passports, vaccine mandates, very, very scary.
Raheem Kassam's gonna break it down all for us.
We're gonna take a short commercial break.
We'll be back for the second hour of The War Room in just a moment.
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