Oct. 23, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, and the worst happens... War Room. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| I'm sure I understand your testimony. | ||
| You didn't give money to the Wuhan lab to do gain-of-function research. | ||
| That is correct. | ||
| And you believe they didn't do gain-of-function research because they told you they didn't? | ||
| We've seen the results of the studies that they conducted. | ||
| Including any private studies. | ||
| Excuse me? | ||
| Including? | ||
| Any private studies. | ||
| I'm not sure what you're getting at, sir. | ||
| Here's what I'm getting at. | ||
| You gave them money and you said, don't do gain-of-function research. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And they said, we won't. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And you have no way of knowing whether they did or not, except you trust them. | ||
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Is that right? | |
| Well, we generally always trust the grantee to do what they say, and you look at the results... Have you ever had a grantee lie to you? | ||
| I cannot guarantee that a grantee has not lied to us, because you never know. | ||
| Okay, welcome. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| It's Friday, 22 October, the year of the Lord, 2021. | ||
| As we commemorate our second anniversary here, the last couple of days, 21st, 22nd, 23rd. | ||
| October 19th is when we started this War Room impeachment. | ||
| I want to bring in now one of our top guest contributors that people just absolutely love. | ||
| She's been traveling so we haven't had her on for a while. | ||
| Natalie Winters of the National Pulse. | ||
| And Natalie, we had to bring you back today because you've essentially gotten a scalp. | ||
| N.I.H. | ||
| under Francis Collins, who Francis Collins resigned. | ||
| We told you a month ago when he resigned there was something up there. | ||
| There was something that was going to break because he basically knows he's got to leave. | ||
| And we now know that they've come out and walked back Fauci's testimony of Fauci lying under oath. | ||
| So Natalie, you've been on this from the beginning. | ||
| You're the one whose individual research has exposed the entire system and what they did and all the lies they told about gain of function. | ||
| So tell us where we stand as of now and how did we get to this place of actually proving that Tony Fauci lied to the nation, lied to the president, lied to everybody? | ||
| Sure, there have probably been several days where it's been pretty bad to be Anthony Fauci, but I would argue that today, and really yesterday, probably was the worst, because it's not just the National Polls, it's not just War Room, frankly it's not even some other conservative media outlets, insisting and proving to you that Anthony Fauci has been lying for a long time about the type of research that was going on at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but now the National Institutes of Health themselves | ||
| It's really kind of correcting and rebuking what Anthony Fauci has said not just once, frankly not just twice, but over and over again to sitting members of Congress on the mainstream media, on interview after interview, and that is really Anthony Fauci's main refrain that he did not fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. | ||
| And just a brief overview, people may recall gain-of-function research is really the weaponization certain pathogens and viruses that really need to make it more deadly. | ||
| That's kind of the short summary of it to humans. | ||
| And what this letter from the NIH to a sitting congressman who had been inquiring about the nature of a FACCI-backed grant to a group called EcoHealth Alliance, which is based in New York, run by Peter Doshak, which War Room fans may recall that name. | ||
| They essentially admit that this research that was being conducted in conjunction with the Wuhan Institute of Virology by EcoHealth Alliance led to certain bat coronaviruses that were more deadly to humans. | ||
| They specifically single out the SHC-014 spike, which people who've been watching War Room for a long time will recall that at the National Pulse, we've unearthed audio clips about researchers discussing the specific strain of coronavirus, saying that the NIH was, quote, very supportive of their work with this type of virus, with this type of coronavirus. | ||
| And what they continue to say in this letter, which again, I think is another smoking gun, is that EcoHealth Alliance actually lied and failed to report, that's a direct quote, their findings, this weaponization, and really increasing the lethality of this virus, which in many cases is in the high 90th percentile in terms of similarity to the SARS-CoV-2 virus that we see going on now. | ||
| One last thing. | ||
| It's very interesting. | ||
| The letter, if you read it, it's up on the National Polls. | ||
| It has a very, very defensive tone. | ||
| I think they start off and they reiterate every single paragraph that this research conducted with EcoHealth Alliance did not create COVID-19. | ||
| Interesting to be so defensive about that. | ||
| But I think the point is, I think any person who has a business, works in the technology sector, knows very well about Chinese Communist Party intellectual property theft. | ||
| And I think the point is that anytime the Chinese government and their network of military run labs, even their businesses have gotten their hands on American technology and American innovation, it's never ended well. | ||
| Just look at the hypersonic missile that China just launched. | ||
| You know that was done in part with American technology that was stolen by the Chinese government through a proxy in Taiwan So I think kovat 19 is really another form of kind of intellectual property theft Except it's so egregious that it's not even theft because Anthony Fauci was overtly and totally okay with funding it Natalie I want to go back to the Assertion that it didn't lead to that you mentioned that the defensive nature of this and particularly they get to the punchline of the defensive | ||
| nature. They want to make sure people know, hey, but this didn't lead to COVID-19. | ||
| That's just an assertion. | ||
| Given your reporting, your analysis, your investigation, because you've done more than any one individual, do you think they can back up, they can actually back up that assertion? | ||
| You think they could back that up at a congressional hearing? | ||
| Do you think they could back that up in a court of law? | ||
| Do you think they could back that up in front of the American people? | ||
| No, and you know, the only real way to get kind of hard evidence to prove that would be getting into the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but thanks to people like Anthony Fauci and his establishment counterparts, Like the people in the World Health Organization, that doesn't seem like a likely possibility. | ||
| So we're left with kind of more circumstantial evidence. | ||
| And frankly, I think that you can kind of deduce the crime from the cover-up that we've seen. | ||
| And if you want to get very specific, I could list chapter and verse for probably, you know, 18 hours, all the different pinpoints where you could see how this virus likely developed as a result of this kind of gain-of-function style of research. | ||
| But I think there's two points that I'd bring up. | ||
| These mouse models that they were talking about, that they were doing these really manipulation of the SHC014 spike in, we actually uncovered a PowerPoint presentation given by Sher Jung Lee, who's the top bat coronavirus researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. | ||
| And in one of the slides, she actually has a special dedication, and she thanks Ralph Baric for these humanized mouse models. | ||
| Ralph Baric is up at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, a long-term recipient Of Fauci Grants! | ||
| And the other thing, I think, when you're talking about the cover-up aspect of it, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, their website, they had articles talking about how they were playing around with these certain, these exact types of bat coronaviruses that are mentioned in this NIH letter. | ||
| They talk about creating a virus with, quote, epidemic strains of infection, unquote. | ||
| And now that article's been deleted from the Wuhan Institute of Virology's website. | ||
| So, to me, it makes me wonder why they're deleting this. | ||
| I mean, again, this is just a baseless fact that they're claiming it didn't result or lead to COVID-19. | ||
| And frankly, I don't even know how they can actually make that allegation because it's kind of at odds with the concluding sentence or paragraph of the article, which says that over the next five days, they're demanding that EcoHealth Alliance produce more records With regard to this research they were conducting in collaboration with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, so it's a premature conclusion to make considering they openly admit they don't have all the evidence. | ||
| It was your reporting and your analysis that kind of broke this up with Daszak, because remember, in 60 Minutes should be humiliated. | ||
| 60 Minutes should be humiliated. | ||
| That interview they did, their big expose, they played patty cake with Daszak. | ||
| Tell us, how did we get in a situation where the mainstream media covered this up, and that's what it was, and I don't use that term lightly, about Daszak and what went on and actually promoted him, until you continue to hammer and hammer and hammer and now, Right now, it's pretty obvious by this letter, they're going to try to serve him up as the guilty party when it's actually Fauci. | ||
| Walk us through the Peter Daszak of it all and what the mainstream media did to try to cover for this guy. | ||
| Well, I think it was my lovely boss and editor-in-chief, Rahim, who had predicted several months back that, you know, Peter Dorschak would be the fall guy. | ||
| He would be the person that they would try to pin this on. | ||
| And make no mistake, Peter Dorschak is certainly culpable for a lot of the kind of cover-up activity. | ||
| But the only reason that we had a cover-up was because of none other than Anthony Fauci, given the fact that he funded this research in the first place. | ||
| But I think the reason why the mainstream media has been so Eager to really, it's not even cover up, they just kind of didn't even touch the story. | ||
| I was about to say mainstream media spin, but that implies that they ever touched it to begin with. | ||
| But I think it goes back to something that we've hammered on the show repeatedly. | ||
| Getting to the bottom of COVID-19, the origins of it, obviously all roads lead to the Chinese Communist Party, lead to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and that would vindicate the person that they hate the most, Donald Trump. | ||
| who has been saying from day one that this virus was released from a Chinese Communist Party run lab, it traces its roots to Beijing. And if the media would do their due diligence, because they know that that's where the virus came from, they would affirm what he's been saying. And I think anyone who's ever seen even a second of MSNBC, CNN, even Fox sometimes, pretty well much know that that's not something that their editorial line necessarily aligns with. | ||
| So I think it's just politics. | ||
| You know, they say all the time to people who don't want to get vaccinated or, you know, want to just look into the science behind it, stop politicizing science. | ||
| But in reality, we're only in this position where we still don't know where this virus came from, allegedly, because these people politicized the pandemic and COVID-19 from the onset, just politicized it in the favor of anti-Trump. | ||
| You've been all over this. | ||
| You got all those pieces up today in the National Pulse. | ||
| Let's look over the other side of the hill. | ||
| Tell the audience where you believe this story is going and where your reporting is going to go. | ||
| Sure, we just put up another story about how another, actually one of Peter Daszak's colleagues on the Lancet COVID Origins Committee, Malik Pires, he's a Sri Lankan doctor. | ||
| He was one of the top kind of purveyors of the myth that COVID-19 originated in bats, which everyone knows is just an ardent lie. | ||
| But he actually just won a $1 million prize, the equivalent of China's Nobel Prize for Science. | ||
| For this research, so this I think is a perfect example Not only of where this story will continue to go But what people need to look out for because the Chinese Communist Party is the fire kind of heats up and more of their lives are Exposed and unraveled even by the NIH which is crazy to even say They'll be I think wheeling out more of these kind of fake experts these establishment experts very much like Peter Doshak to be towing the line that you know, kovat 19 didn't develop and in the Wuhan lab. | ||
| So I'd say definitely be on the lookout for kind of a whole new push, a whole new crusade to push the natural origins theory. | ||
| But look, if you would have told me two months ago that Francis Collins would be resigning at the end of the year, frankly, I probably wouldn't have believed you. | ||
| But I think that that's where we find hope in that Anthony Fauci will be held accountable, right? | ||
| I think the NIH is a sinking ship. | ||
| I think Francis Collins' resignation is a very, very big symbol. | ||
| I'm not someone who likes false hope, but I think at the point in which the NIH, the principal deputy director, is sending a letter to a Republican congressman, you know, explicitly rebuking the lies of Anthony Fauci, the repeated lies of Anthony Fauci, I think his termination is not far off. | ||
| Let me be blunt. | ||
| Dr. Francis Collins, one of the most powerful individuals in the town. | ||
| We had Russ Vogt, Trump's last OMB director, on here this morning to talk about that. | ||
| That's a scalp. | ||
| And that's a scalp that Natalie Winters got. | ||
| That's what this young woman did. | ||
| She took down one of the most powerful guys in this town. | ||
| You saw from two days ago why he resigned, or yesterday why he resigned. | ||
| Her relentless reporting. | ||
| Natalie, how do people get to you? | ||
| How do they follow your reporting? | ||
| How do they follow you on social media? | ||
| I'm Natalie G. Winters on Getter, which is my personal favorite. | ||
| Also, still sadly on Twitter and Facebook at Natalie Winters. | ||
| Natalie, thank you very much for joining us in the War Room and congratulations. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Anytime I hear the conservators or people, you know, wandering around, oh, this is so terrible, we're going to lose. | ||
| You've got a young generation of killers coming up just absolutely will not back off one inch. | ||
| Natalie Winters is at the tip of that spear. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're back with Mark Meadows, the Chief's Chief, in the War Room in a moment. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. Pandemic. Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| On the anniversary when we started a couple of years ago, our first guest was then one of the leaders of the House Freedom Caucus, who was going to take a big role in defending President Trump in the impeachment, the old War Room impeachment. | ||
| It was the predecessor to the War Room pandemic. | ||
| It was Mark Meadows, now the author of the book, The Chief's Chief. | ||
| He was President Trump's last chief of staff during his first term. | ||
| I want to bring him in now. | ||
| Mark, you've heard the reporting on Natalie Winters. | ||
| I know there's a lot in the book about you tangling with Fauci, and I don't want to give too much away because we really want people to buy this book and to read it closely. | ||
| But are you shocked that we're in the situation where they're actually walking back, number one, where they're walking back the lives of Tony Fauci, and number two, where Dr. Francis Collins, one of the most powerful individuals in the administrative state in this city, has basically, essentially resigned because he knew he was going to get fired eventually because of this? | ||
| Listen, what I am shocked about is not that the truth has come out. | ||
| What I'm shocked about is the fact that it's Natalie and the great posse at the War Room, you're reporting, you're willing to highlight this when no one else was willing to cover it. | ||
| None of the mainstream media were willing to pick up on it. | ||
| In fact, when Dr. Fauci went out with this, I can remember it. | ||
| You know, confronting him about this because he went out and said, well, this happened through evolutionary man. | ||
| And I said, well, Tony, you don't know that. | ||
| I mean, and quite frankly, the president had already gone out and said it was highly probable that it came from a lab. | ||
| And then everybody was saying, oh, just how wrong President Trump was. | ||
| But what I am shocked about is is that They're going to blame, and now they're looking for the scapegoat. | ||
| You just said it in your interview with Natalie just a few minutes ago. | ||
| They're going to try to blame this on someone else other than NIH, other than Dr. Fauci, to try to suggest that he didn't lie. | ||
| But I can tell you, there's emails out there early on in February of 2020 That alerted everybody to the fact that there was gain-of-function research going on. | ||
| Listen, we haven't been allowed in the Wuhan lab. | ||
| We haven't been allowed by our Chinese counterparts to actually come in. | ||
| They've been giving us false information. | ||
| We knew that they were giving us false information. | ||
| And yet, it was the same Tony Fauci that continued to use their data and use it in a way that That propped up his particular PR stunt that he did before a vast majority of Americans while he worked for Trump, and he continues to do it today. | ||
| It's amazing how he hasn't come out and said, I didn't lie to Congress. | ||
| Hopefully he's hiring a good attorney. | ||
| Biden owns 100% of this because Biden basically gave him a field promotion to make him his chief science officer. | ||
| We're going to his whole campaign is we're going to follow Tony Fauci. | ||
| How's the Biden administration What are they supposed to do with this right now? | ||
| What would you recommend having been in Ron Klain's job? | ||
| I mean, for the good of the country, for the direction of this, for all of mankind right now, because they still haven't gotten to the bottom of it, but what do you think the Biden administration needs to do about the Tony Fauci problem? | ||
| Well, they've got two problems. | ||
| The Biden administration, when they canceled the independent audit that was going on on the origins of the COVID-19 debacle that we've got, they canceled that. | ||
| They had a reset. | ||
| They said, well, we're going to do an independent 90-day review And then what they did, and I predicted it on day one of the 90-day review, that they weren't going to come to any kind of conclusion. | ||
| They were going to say that there was no gain-of-function research. | ||
| And indeed, they did exactly that. | ||
| So here would be my recommendation to them. | ||
| Get tough like Donald Trump. | ||
| We're going to hold China accountable and what we're going to do is we're going to get out of the WHO one. | ||
| We're going to come back and we're going to say before any other taxpayer dollars goes to anybody that we have to have access not only to the lab but the records and the other Origin studies that were being done in the Wuhan lab, and then Clean House at NIH. | ||
| I mean, they will never fire Dr. Fauci, but that is exactly what needs to happen. | ||
| He has played both sides of every single coin, and candidly, the arguments are tough. | ||
| Here's the other problem that you got, and this is where we need the posse to put the real pressure on Capitol Hill. | ||
| NIH has more allies on both sides of the aisle than really any other group. | ||
| I mean, they're the most powerful group. | ||
| You heard it earlier on War Room today that 46 Billion dollars is handed out by NIH every year. | ||
| So it goes to all these different members of Congress, to their institutions of higher learning. | ||
| You know, even in my home state of North Carolina, they dole it out to UNC Chapel Hill. | ||
| Here's the problem with that. | ||
| They buy favors, and they take science, and they allow people to look at it very differently. | ||
| That's why we had all of this rush to an evolutionary origin in the first place. | ||
| Okay, Mark, your Director of Management and Budget, Roosevelt, was on here today and said, hey, you guys tried to, you had a series of reforms that you wanted to implement from President Trump on NIH. | ||
| He said, Collins just blows you off, like, hey, and it goes right to Capitol Hill. | ||
| He's just resigned because he knew he was going to be fired because of this. | ||
| This is a scalp of Natalie Winters. | ||
| And they haven't done any reforms. | ||
| $46 billion budget. | ||
| He's the most, he was the guy that was the most untouchable. | ||
| In this city, but the administrative state's got a crack. | ||
| What would you recommend right now that needs to be done with NIH so that they're responsive to the American people and really responsive to the taxpayer? | ||
| Well, let me just tell you, if you put a hold on that $46 billion, if you just say, listen, all we're going to do is put a hold on it while we review things, it's amazing how you get the attention of appropriators both in the Senate and the House. | ||
| So what they ought to do is say, we're going to freeze any of that. | ||
| And they'll say, oh, well, you're freezing all the money for all these worthwhile grants that we have going out there. | ||
| We don't know the results of it. | ||
| It's just like Dr. Fauci saying that they want five more days of it. | ||
| This is the same Dr. Fauci that said that it came from an evolutionary cause. | ||
| This is the same Dr. Fauci that has taken three positions on whether you should wear a mask or not. | ||
| It's the same Dr. Fauci that says it will be another eight years before we get a vaccine for Listen, they are a better PR firm than any New York PR firm because they spin it so well, but we need to put a hold on the money, just like President Trump did when he heard about this. | ||
| He said, cut it off, and that's what we need to do. | ||
| We're 11 days away from a major gubernatorial and House of Delegates race in the Commonwealth of Virginia. | ||
| On that evening, things will change. | ||
| Trump supposedly, according to the numbers that came out, lost between 9.5 and 10.5 points. | ||
| Virginia, it's a dead heat. | ||
| People are predicting Yunkin might be able to pull this off. | ||
| But Nancy Pelosi has said that they're going to get something done and signed by next week. | ||
| What's going to happen, this $3.5 trillion, tell us all the voodoo that's going to happen and how the posse can man the ramparts and make sure that this thing is not somehow trying to jam through. | ||
| It's really $2 trillion, but the programs are in place that are not going to be able to be unwound. | ||
| Well, you're exactly right. | ||
| You and I talked about that a few days ago. | ||
| What they're going to do is they're going to lower the amount of money that they spend, and they're going to put these socialist policies in place. | ||
| So what the posse needs to do is make sure that they put pressure on Republican leadership The whole reason they're trying to do this is to suggest that they've got this plan? | ||
| Well, you heard it last night on the most painful hour and a half of television I've watched in the last year, the CNN town hall for Joe Biden. | ||
| He has no clue. | ||
| He says gas prices will come down. | ||
| Well, hopefully in the spring. | ||
| This is a knock-on-wood kind of moment, just like with Afghanistan. | ||
| And so what we have to do is make sure that we put the pressure on those moderate Democrats, look at the problem-solver Democrats, problem-solver Republicans, and say, do not cave in. | ||
| This is not the time to get weak. | ||
| But they're all hands on deck to try to put a win. | ||
| And it's all about the governor's race in Virginia so that they can get their socialist policy and ramp up the progressive turnout. | ||
| Because Terry McAuliffe is really underwater right now. | ||
| By the way, he looked at the American people last night and said, this is not going to cost a nickel. | ||
| This is all paid for. | ||
| Did he lie to the American people, Mark Meadows? | ||
| He lied to the American people not once, but twice and three times. | ||
| He's going to hire the National Guard to come in and do trucking. | ||
| He's going to fire law enforcement folks. | ||
| He's going to fire law enforcement folks. | ||
| The very group that actually had to go in during the pandemic were essential workers And now he's going to say that they should be fired? | ||
| Shame on him. | ||
| We're better than that. | ||
| And I can just tell you, not only did he lie, but they've had to walk back. | ||
| The White House has had to walk back half the things he said. | ||
| The only person that was actually answering questions was Anderson Cooper. | ||
| He was a lifeguard out there throwing a life preserver to Joe Biden every time he wandered off. | ||
| The book is The Chief's Chief. | ||
| You got me riled up! | ||
| You got me riled up! | ||
| That's what The War Worm's for, The Chief's Chief. | ||
| Mark, the book comes out December 7th. | ||
| People want to know, are you doing any events before then? | ||
| We've got about a minute. | ||
| Talk to us about the role of the book and how can people get to you and find out more about it. | ||
| Yeah, so we are doing a couple events early on, but mainly we're wanting to send a message to the left that pre-sales, you can't cancel conservative authors and people who are willing to say positive things about Donald Trump. | ||
| That's why we want the pre-sales to be there. | ||
| We're going to do some special signings. | ||
| We're going to make sure ... I talked to President Trump about it actually yesterday. | ||
| He wants to make sure that this is the number one bestseller, so if you can help us out there, that would be great. | ||
| Go to Amazon real quickly. | ||
| CPI. | ||
| How do you get to the site? | ||
| What's your social media? | ||
| Yeah, CPI.org's got all the platforms there. | ||
| Follow me, at Mark Meadows, across the platforms. | ||
| We're not going to be shy about holding Dr. Fauci and Joe Biden accountable. | ||
| The book is just as hot as his appearance here on War Room. | ||
| Mark Meadows, thank you very much. | ||
| You need to be a lot calmer. | ||
| You're a House Freedom Caucus. | ||
| Chief of Staff job. | ||
| You've got to work. | ||
| See you, brother. | ||
| Mark Meadows. | ||
| Go to Amazon right now. | ||
| The book is The Chief's Chief. | ||
| Gotta get it. | ||
| There's a lot of insights. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Gonna have two big books this fall. | ||
| You got In the Trump Time, My Journal of the Plague Year by Peter Navarro, and The Chief's Chief by Mark Meadows. | ||
| Finally, the Trump side gets to tell their side of the story. | ||
| And I think it's gonna be pretty powerful. | ||
| Pretty powerful. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
| Boris Epstein walking through Pennsylvania and Arizona through reports. | ||
| Next. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, breaking news on CNN. | ||
| We're not going to spend any time with this. | ||
| This is going to be tough for the posse. | ||
| Big headline story just came off of the Eclipse. | ||
| House Republicans hate Steve Bannon, but they fear him, said former Trump's constructor. | ||
| Anyway, we'll get to spend more time on that next week. | ||
| Big speech out tomorrow in Arizona. | ||
| Going to be spending a couple days out there. | ||
| Actually, I'm going out there Because I gotta see what Boris has been working on for the last couple, you know, Boris went out there and all this big talk and I thought things, I thought it'd already be decertified. | ||
| Since it's not, I gotta fly out there and kind of take field command here. | ||
| So I'll be out there to see Boris hanging with the posse. | ||
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Okay, first of all, that is as confused as CNN. | |
| First of all, let me tell you something. | ||
| I heard direct information, okay? | ||
| So I was gonna say something nice about you, but now you're coming in with this fake news nonsense. | ||
| Listen, I will tell you, Ben, the seven shirts may not fly in Arizona, it's a little warm here, okay? | ||
| That's where I got the idea. | ||
| It's called layering. | ||
| It's a Middle East thing. | ||
| Yeah, it is Middle East. | ||
| Look, we got a lot of things to go through. | ||
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Hang on. | |
| Yeah, go ahead. | ||
| This is serious. | ||
| 30 seconds. | ||
| I heard directly from people inside the room yesterday, Republican comrades, do you have non-MAGA Republicans, people who are not like, tear your shirt off, like Bannon and Boris Epstein, going around screaming free Bannon? | ||
| So that story is nonsense. | ||
| That story is nonsense. | ||
| The Republican Party, the MAGA movement under the leadership of President Trump, are all in against the Stalinist sham. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Very well said. | ||
| Okay, I want to turn now to, by the way, I had Natalie Winters and Mark Meadows talking about the Fauci situation. | ||
| I want you to give me the politics of it. | ||
| Biden owns Fauci, 1000%. | ||
| He went out of his way in the campaign to say it's all about the science, all about scientism, it's all about Fauci, Fauci, Fauci, Fauci. | ||
| They've embraced Fauci. | ||
| They own Fauci. | ||
| Tell me, walk me through the politics of Tony Fauci and Joe Biden. | ||
| Biden got Fauci. | ||
| And this had been written about, I think Maggie Haberman wrote about this in the spring. | ||
| And she said that the Biden administration was getting, quote-unquote, Fauci. | ||
| And listen, agree with Maggie, disagree with Maggie. | ||
| She is a very preeminent political mind of this generation. | ||
| And I will challenge folks to talk about other reporters who really at least try to understand the political psyche of both sides like Maggie does. | ||
| And I'm sure I'm not doing Maggie any favors by saying nice things about her on your show, on The War Room, the MAGA posse. | ||
| The MAGA movement. | ||
| I'm sure that the people in the New York Times love hearing positive things. | ||
| Hey, I said, I said, Jory Reid's my favorite show this morning, so I'm sure we didn't help Jory Reid either. | ||
| Hey, Jory put the good pictures of us. | ||
| You and I look handsome in that graphic. | ||
| Do we have the graphic? | ||
| Did I say that I love the Jory Reid show? | ||
| I watch it every day. | ||
| It's my favorite show. | ||
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Did I mention that? | |
| But in all seriousness, Maggie said in the spring that Biden was getting Fauci'd. | ||
| Okay, that they bought something that they do not control. | ||
| And that was true in the spring, and it's ten times true now. | ||
| Tony Fauci is an albatross around the neck of what used to be Joe Biden and the neck of the Biden administration, just like Biden himself is an albatross around Terry McAuliffe and the Democrats all throughout the country. | ||
| This Fauci thing is terrible. | ||
| And I really hesitate to say this. | ||
| The bad news glass is so full for the Democrats. | ||
| Afghanistan, the border, the economy, the complete disaster with the supply chains thanks to breastfeeding Buttigieg. | ||
| The bad news cup is so full. | ||
| I'm not so sure there's, you know, that there's room politically for more because I think as it is, Joe Biden is a falling knife to potentially, and this is so historic and I do not say this lightly, to single digit approval ratings in peacetime. | ||
| No, that's why they got to cram everything in between now and November 2nd, the vote in Virginia. | ||
| They're going to be working all weekend and try to cram this disaster spending bill there. | ||
| Let's go to Arizona. | ||
| You're out there. | ||
| Doug Logan, the Cyber Ninjas, had a report that responded to Maricopa County. | ||
| Give us the highlights. | ||
| Why is it important and what does it mean for the future? | ||
| If we can get the report up on the screen from Denver. | ||
| If not, I could just talk about it. | ||
| The report is 11 pages, and it's a powerhouse. | ||
| Remember, the presentation, the hearing about three weeks ago now was very important. | ||
| It had a lot of information, but it was a lot of disparate information, and it was a lot of pages, a lot of info. | ||
| This is 11 pages tight, and it talks about the ballots not tied to any address, more votes sent in than requested, votes which are phantom votes. | ||
| And it gives absolute and total backup to that number that we've talked about for weeks. | ||
| Always, always signal not noise for the MAGA audience, the War Room audience, the beating heart of the MAGA movement. | ||
| We said three weeks ago, I believe two weeks ago or so, that the real number is just that over 80,000 illegal ballots in Maricopa County. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| That report backs up. | ||
| Over 80,000 illegal ballots in Maricopa County. | ||
| Another 35,000, by the way, in Pima County. | ||
| And an election that was separated under certification, and I believe false certification, by just 10,000 votes. | ||
| And again, I've had liberal reporters calling me up freaking out. | ||
| Why are you guys doing this? | ||
| You're undermining American democracy. | ||
| And then I say, well, have you read the report? | ||
| They say, yeah. | ||
| I say, anything negative to say about it? | ||
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| Oh, well, maybe Cyber Ninjas isn't that serious. | ||
| Well, look at the numbers. | ||
| Look at the information. | ||
| Here's the bottom line, Steve. | ||
| We have brought the receipts. | ||
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Let me say it again. | |
| We have brought the receipts. | ||
| And it is clear now, as it's clear that the 1960 election was stolen, the 1960 election was stolen by the Kennedys, it is clear that Perkins Cooey, Mark Elias stole this election. | ||
| And now the question is, what do we do about it now? | ||
| Three words. | ||
| De-certify. | ||
| You're coming in here tomorrow. | ||
| We've got to keep bringing the heat. | ||
| I think we should have some other very, very, very big historic names come to Arizona. | ||
| Let's keep bringing the heat. | ||
| De-certify in Arizona. | ||
| And then we go to Pennsylvania, where there was a 140-page legal brief dropped on Josh Shapiro's head today from Jay Corman and Chris Dushen. | ||
| Hey, they've gotten a lot of criticism, but you want action? | ||
| That's action. | ||
| A in-depth legal brief, 140 pages, bottom line spelling out why the Arizona State Senate has full power, the Pennsylvania State Senate, the Pennsylvania State Senate has full power, full rights to request the information they did and conduct a full forensic investigation in Pennsylvania. | ||
| Okay, we're out there tomorrow, and we're actually hanging out tonight. | ||
| We'll be out there tonight. | ||
| We're going to work on expanding to Pima County. | ||
| Very important to get Pima County, and you're right. | ||
| The decertification movement must start in Arizona, must start, and it's going to start this weekend. | ||
| And it has started, but we've got to keep bringing the heat. | ||
| We've got to keep bringing the heat. | ||
| We're going to ramp it up. | ||
| But in Pennsylvania, they're kind of where Arizona was in the spring, given the lawsuits. | ||
| There's 140 pages. | ||
| By the way, for the Denver and the Posse, let's get the Cyber Ninjas Report up across all platforms and the 140 pages from Pennsylvania. | ||
| Boris, we were in Gettysburg last night. | ||
| I want to thank Adams County for inviting me to be the keynote for the 36th Annual Eisenhower Dinner. | ||
| By the way, Family Research Council represented great there, too. | ||
| They had some great speakers. | ||
| Boris, you've got a lot of fans. | ||
| I brought it, I think. | ||
| I brought it. | ||
| Because Gettysburg does it. | ||
| Gettysburg is such a special place to me. | ||
| But Boris, it was a posse turnout. | ||
| It was 500 people, oversold. | ||
| Everybody come up talking about the show. | ||
| You have a tremendous amount of fans in Pennsylvania. | ||
| But the question is... | ||
| What is this, what's this 140 pages gonna mean? | ||
| These people up there really want action. | ||
| I mean, it's very impressive that the grassroots and the posse, the warring posse up there is action, action, action. | ||
| In your assessment, what does this 140 pages mean and where do we go from here? | ||
| Where we go from here, this is a legal action, right? | ||
| There's going to be a hearing. | ||
| It's on November 5th. | ||
| This is a legal battle. | ||
| It's a legal fight. | ||
| And Cormyn Dutch is saying, we are not messing around. | ||
| They're coming with full heat, full strength. | ||
| This lawsuit is full of power. | ||
| And by the way, To Tony Shoup, to the grassroots movement. | ||
| I've got all the love and all respect for you, Full Stop. | ||
| And I love the canvases that are going on. | ||
| And I know that the MAGA movement and the leadership of President Trump loves it. | ||
| We have to be a movement that accepts both the official process through the state senate in Pennsylvania and the grassroots canvas, and they absolutely can work together. | ||
| Here's what I do not want to see. | ||
| What I don't want to see is some useless intra-party, intra-state fighting derail the process, derail the movement for a full canvas, full audit. | ||
| I know that Senator Doug Mastriano's got his perspectives and Cormen and all that, but that's all neither here nor there. | ||
| We're talking about American history here. | ||
| This isn't about political fighting or bickering. | ||
| This is about American history. | ||
| So I call on the MAGA movement to come together in Pennsylvania. | ||
| Let's absolutely, absolutely give back up to Corman and Dush as long as they take action, and this was action today. | ||
| As long as they take action, give them the credit, give them some rope, and let's absolutely also support the canvases being done by Tony Shoup and her organization. | ||
| They are not mutually non-existent. | ||
| They are absolutely in line to be mutually cooperative. | ||
| All right, Boris, we've got to bounce. | ||
| Give us your social media. | ||
| We're going to be out there tonight. | ||
| We're going to be with you for a couple of days. | ||
| Give us the social media. | ||
| How can people track? | ||
| By the way, everybody's got to be all over Boris's social media account and his newsletter, everything like that, because I'm telling you, Arizona is heating up big league right now. | ||
| Boris, how do people get to you? | ||
| Hot, hot, hot. | ||
| At Boris EP on Getter, come in super hot. | ||
| At Boris EP on Twitter, of course. | ||
| Boris underscore Epstein coming in hot on the gram and the hottest. | ||
| My email, my website, BorisEP.com. | ||
| Go sign up today. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| Shabbat Shalom. | ||
| And Steve, I'll see you in Tucson tomorrow. | ||
| Safe travels. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay, Boris Epstein. | ||
| Now I want to go to Frank Gaffney, Committee on the Present Danger, China. | ||
| We'll play the clip from Biden on the comeback here. | ||
| Frank, the Committee on the Present Danger of China has an all-day emergency seminar conference on town hall on Taiwan. | ||
| And in the evening on CNN, Joe Biden says, oh, yeah, we're going to defend Taiwan. | ||
| He drops strategic ambiguity. | ||
| He says, we're going to. | ||
| You guys did in one day what people have not been able to do in years. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| Tell us what the seminar was. | ||
| What were the highlights? | ||
| And why did Biden all of a sudden throw strategic ambiguity? | ||
| I know the White House trying to walk it back, but the president I say said, yes, we're going to defend Taiwan. | ||
| Frank Gaffney. | ||
| Well, it's better than that, Steve. | ||
| It only took us two hours and about a quarter to get it done, so it wasn't even a full day. | ||
| But I'm going to take credit for it just the same. | ||
| Thank you for those plaudits. | ||
| Listen, the key piece of the program, and there were, I don't know, 12, 14 people, really top flight folks, many of them War Room stars, as a matter of fact. | ||
| Brian Kennedy, Sam Faddis, John Mills. | ||
| We had Steve Hatfill. | ||
| We had an all-star cast of people, excuse me, Steve Hatfill was earlier in the week. | ||
| We had, I'm trying to think who else from the team, Posobiec, of course. | ||
| That was the A-team, and I think the message that they conveyed to everybody listening The Chinese Communist Party, most especially, to the American people, to the Baojing, to the international audiences that we can now command through the miracle of these podcasts and webinars, but also, hopefully, to the administration. | ||
| And that was this. | ||
| We must deter China from taking a step that they are clearly preparing to take. | ||
| We documented the lengths to which they have gone now for years to prepare the amphibious assault that would be theoretically able to suppress the defenses of the people of Taiwan and move in occupation forces that would take it over, possibly without destroying the place, which they have a very strong incentive to do because they don't want those chip manufacturing facilities | ||
| To be destroyed in the process, obviously. | ||
| But they are prepared for it, and we have to up our game in a lot of different ways. | ||
| We enumerated a number of them. | ||
| But the biggest point of all, Steve, and it goes to the question you've just asked, is it was kind of a leitmotif, irrespective of who was talking about it. | ||
| We need to demonstrate resolve. | ||
| We need to be clear we have the will to defend Taiwan. | ||
| President said- Frank, hang on. | ||
| We're going to take you through the break. | ||
| Frank Gaffney joins us in a moment. | ||
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| China just tested a hypersonic missile. | ||
| What will you do to keep up with them militarily, and can you vow to protect Taiwan? | ||
| Yes and yes. | ||
| We are militarily, China, Russia, and the rest of the world knows, We have the most powerful military in history of the world. | ||
| Don't worry about whether we're going to, they're going to be more powerful. | ||
| What you do have to worry about is whether or not they're going to engage in activities that will put them in a position where they may make a serious mistake. | ||
| And so I have had, I've spoken and spent more time with Xi Jinping than any other world leader has. | ||
| That's why you have, you know, you hear people saying Biden wants to start a new Cold War with China. | ||
| I don't want a Cold War with China. | ||
| I just want to make China understand that we are not going to step back. | ||
| We are not going to change any of our views. | ||
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So are you saying that the United States would come to Taiwan's defense if China attacked? | |
| Yes, we have a commitment to do that. | ||
| We have a commitment to do that. | ||
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Frank Gaffney, did the White House walk that back today, sir? | |
| They've been trying. | ||
| Yes, I think they have, Steve. | ||
| They say, oh, no, no, this is this is no different. | ||
| First position that we've taken heretofore, particularly under the Taiwan Relations Act. | ||
| But let's go back in time for just a second, Steve. | ||
| The Taiwan Relations Act was a response to the selling out of Taiwan by the Jimmy Carter administration. | ||
| In 1979, the Congress enacted it and said, we will commit to support the defense of Taiwan, principally through sale of equipment for them to defend themselves. | ||
| The point is, the strategic ambiguity of which you spoke has been essentially the policy ever since. | ||
| And the danger is in this environment, Steve, if we're not absolutely clear with the Chinese, I think they're banking, especially since they own Joe Biden, and they know, as Afghanistan demonstrated, that he is not likely to stand up for our interests, our allies, or our country. | ||
| That they can get away with it as long as we're being really ambiguous. | ||
| So his statement, if he holds to it, if he can demonstrate the resolution by action now, including preparing for the defense of Taiwan, Then I think we may well spare ourselves a war that is needless and will be terrible for all of us. | ||
| Hong Kong was Czechoslovakia. | ||
| We need resolve right now. | ||
| We're in a kinetic war. | ||
| Frank, we've got to bounce. | ||
| How do people get to you? | ||
| Amazing job at the conference, the webinar. | ||
| How do people get it? | ||
| How do people find it? | ||
| How do people review it? | ||
| presentdangerchina.org. | ||
| I think it will be up before the day is out. | ||
| I hope it will. | ||
| It's a very powerful two hours and it moved Joe Biden, arguably, and it will move you if you take it aboard. | ||
| We're going to push it hard. | ||
| Okay, Frank, thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you for your support, Steve. | ||
| Thanks, brother. | ||
| Joe Allen is covering Transhumanism Forum. | ||
| We talked about a book the other day, one of his top four, Team Human, by Douglas Rushkoff. | ||
| We're doing a special next Saturday on Transhumanism on the eve of Halloween, and we recently asked some people, Joe Allen, talk to us about Douglas Rushkoff, who, by the way, the book is absolutely brilliant. | ||
| Everybody should get it. | ||
| Team Human. | ||
| It's in paperback. | ||
| Joe Allen. | ||
| Douglas Rushkoff is a complex character and I sent out an invitation and his emails in return have been very gracious. | ||
| I was, however, stunned to see that he published an article called, How to Avoid Becoming a Fascist, in which he explains why he declined the invitation. | ||
| I think that If I had to venture a guess, he's probably far more concerned about condemnation from his leftist colleagues, perhaps at his university or in his literary circles, than he is of, you know, heartland Americans asserting their agency over their own communities, which he seems to conflate with fascism. | ||
| He is an astounding critic of technology and its excesses, and in my view, The struggle against technocracy, technological excess, and transhumanism is a fundamentally human struggle. | ||
| It crosses all political boundaries, it crosses all religious boundaries, even including secularism. | ||
| So, I ultimately think that if he is a fair-minded and sound thinker, I think he'll probably come around, but we probably won't see him on Saturday. | ||
| Remember, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. | ||
| I think he's just got to get more access. | ||
| We've got to make sure he sees more of the War Room. | ||
| But no, he's not going to be part of the Saturday Show. | ||
| But hey, hopefully in the future as he watches War Room more. | ||
| But the book, regardless of that, the book stands on its own. | ||
| Everybody should get Douglas Rushkoff's Team Human. | ||
| Because as we drill down on this transhumanism more, you realize it's going to be... | ||
| It's very dangerous. | ||
| Very, very, very scary. | ||
| And it's guys like Rushkoff have been kind of ahead of this as far as thinkers go. | ||
| And we're going to try to make sure that that can get bundled so that people can start to understand the nomenclature, the process, critical path, what we do on all the topics here. | ||
| Joe, you've been doing an amazing job. | ||
| How do people get to your writings on transhumanism? | ||
| I got to tell you, people's heads blow up every time you're on. | ||
| How do people over the weekend get to your writings? | ||
| Thank you very much, Steve. | ||
| You can always find me at Okay, safe travels. | ||
| at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z or my website, Joker.XYZ. | ||
| And also, we'll have a ton of stuff up soon at courtroom.org. | ||
| Okay. Safe travels. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Appreciate it, brother. | ||
| Okay, we're heading out. | ||
| We're going to be in Arizona starting, heading out tonight. | ||
| We want to make sure everybody understands we've got an explosive, very explosive show tomorrow. | ||
| We're going to have Dr. Naomi Wolf, Dr. Peter Navarro. | ||
| We're going to be talking Tony Fauci. | ||
| We're going to be talking vaccine mandates. | ||
| We're going to be talking vaccine passports. | ||
| Quite controversial. | ||
| You're not going to want to miss it. | ||
| The Saturday special in the War Room tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. | ||
| Until then, we will see you tomorrow. |
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