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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
steve bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
I want to thank everybody.
Quite a packed show today, a lot going on, not even time for cold opens, which we always like to do.
There's a firestorm here about, well there's so much going on, I've never seen a news cycle like this.
However, The signal, not the noise.
It's all about money and power right now.
It's about a radical transformation of the American economy with people that don't have a mandate, that don't really have a governing coalition, that have put up with no due diligence a reckless, a reckless plan.
You talk about democracy.
You want to see democracy collapse?
Just become slaves to the international capital markets, okay?
The global capital markets, which we're about to do by passing this.
And, of course, the posse's got the leverage.
They're the debtor in possession, the dip lender.
You've got all the leverage.
Right now, we've got them jammed up in a corner.
We use it as a forcing function.
They're jammed up in the corner on this debt ceiling.
I want to go to Steve Cortez.
First, Steve, you've got an amazing piece up.
When I saw it in draft, it was called Biden's Blue Christmas.
That was kind of poetic.
It's a little more prosaic, the titles you've got now.
But talk about this piece.
Talk about the analysis in this piece.
And what do you mean by Biden's Blue Christmas?
steve cortes
Sure.
And by the way, I am totally fine with just referring to it as Biden's Blue Christmas because, Steve, my professional life has been about two things.
It's been about economic analysis, financial markets, and then more recently, it's been about political messaging.
And I'm trying to meld those two together here.
I'm trying to convey the economic reality of what Joe Biden has already done, the damage he has already caused to this great country and this amazing economy, what was an amazing economy.
And I'm trying to project the damage that will be done In the coming months into Christmas, and I want to do that with phrases that are memorable and that can encapsulate broader, more complicated economic principles into a relatively catchy, I hope, and simplistic phrase.
What I mean by Biden's blue Christmas is that there are a variety of forces at work right now, all of them the fault of Joe Biden, principally the inflationary spiral that he has forced upon our country.
And these forces, there is a confluence of them that are coming together.
Unfortunately, they are combining right into Christmas.
And let me be specific here.
What I mean on the inflation front, just last Friday, we got out the PCE, Personal Consumption Expenditure Index.
The listeners out there probably don't know that index, but it's the most widely watched by Wall Street economists as well as by the Federal Reserve Bank.
The PCE on Friday hit a 30-year high, worst inflation in 30 years.
That corroborated what we've gotten earlier from the CPI, the Consumer Price Index, which a lot of folks probably do know.
The CPI is at the highest levels in the last three months, 5.3% or higher, the highest level since 2008.
A Biden inflation spike, which is caused by his reckless spending and borrowing.
We combine that with a supply chain situation, with an absolute breakdown in the supply chain, which has been massively exacerbated by Joe Biden, particularly the dearth of workers.
And by the way, that's not just my opinion.
That's not just the opinion of the MAGA right-wing crowd.
The Washington Post itself, and I put this in my article, I quote, and the Washington Post cites, quote, there aren't enough truckers or warehouse workers.
Now in the Washington Post is willing to admit that, that the supply chain is broken down because of a lack of warehouse workers and truckers, because we effectively paid a lot of people over the summer, Joe Biden did, paid them lavishly to not work, not caring or not realizing, either way it's terrible, that it was going to have lasting consequences.
When you combine those two factors, the supply chain disruptions, the supply chain Disruptions is too tepid a word.
The supply chain breakdown with the Biden inflation spike.
I believe that as the weather cools and as home heating costs soar for regular working class Americans, it is all going to create A miserable Christmas.
It is going to be a blue Christmas, meaning that consumers are going to be incredibly stretched and stressed.
And when they do go to the stores, with the limited means, the limited discretionary income they do have, Steve, when they go to the stores to buy the items, the products that they want and need for Christmas, They're going to find a scarcity of those items.
They will either not be on the shelves at all, or if they are on the shelves, they're going to be there at exorbitant prices that will be shocking to Americans.
So things are bad, but unfortunately, Steve, things are about to get markedly worse and again at the worst possible time.
steve bannon
I just wanted to, that core inflation, the PCE, takes out energy and food because they say, oh, they're too volatile.
But energy and food, particularly for working class people, is a big part of how they, you know, a big part of their budget.
We're going to have the MyPatriotSupply guys on later.
You've got all these ships at anchor off of L.A.
and these other ports, but talk to us about the food.
Energy's blowing up, and you've seen the natural gas prices, you've seen the oil prices, and part of this is Biden's half-baked, I don't want to call it half-baked, one-third baked, idea about this the climate change and in in in global warming all all that right the decarbonization of our society talk just a second about food and hinting at explosion in food prices and scarcity of food not exactly Look, a lot of the audience out there knows this.
steve cortes
They know that whatever cut of beef they like to get, they either can't find it, or if they do find it, it's low quality, or it's extremely high priced, or both.
And a lot of this, by the way, the food and the energy components are very much connected.
Because, of course, how does the food get there?
How does it get to your local grocery store, or your bodega, or to the Costco?
It has to be shipped there.
And we know that energy prices, of course, are absolutely soaring.
Just today, Just today, crude oil and gasoline futures, which will trickle down to your pump very soon, both hit the highest level seen since 2014.
You know, America under Donald Trump was an energy superpower.
We were not just energy independent, we were energy dominant.
We were exporting energy to the rest of the world.
And we got very accustomed, thankfully, as an economy to cheap, plentiful, reliable American energy.
And it was it was powering farms and factories and homes in this land.
It was one of the key ingredients to the Trump economic boom.
Joe Biden came into office.
The first thing he did was declare war on American energy.
And he did that concurrently while he was taking American borrowing and spending to the federal level, which was already too excessive.
I'll be the first to say that.
But he then put it into overdrive.
He put it on absolute steroids.
And what was the result?
Massive inflationary pressures.
Let me put a number on that.
You know, I mentioned that CPI the last three months has been at 5.3% or above, highest level since 2008.
Now, let's put that in context.
What was the handoff from Donald Trump?
The handoff in January of 2021 was 1.4% inflation.
As a matter of fact, CPI inflation For the last six months straight of Donald Trump's tenure, as the U.S.
was aggressively reopening, particularly in the red states, in the freedom jurisdictions, places like Florida, as we were aggressively reopening, inflation in all six of those months was 1.4% or lower.
Joe Biden, in just a matter of months, he more than tripled that rate to 5.4%, 5.3%.
In recent months.
So, the effects were immediate.
They were frankly quicker than I thought they would be.
And again, all of this sets up for a miserable winter.
By the way, let me put some numbers on the heating situation in terms of what middle class folks are going to have to spend to heat their homes as temperatures start to cool.
We're into October now.
In the northern half of the country, things are going to cool off very quickly.
Unfortunately, natural gas prices have almost doubled in the United States.
Up 89% since Joe Biden was elected, despite the fact, by the way, that America's the Saudi Arabia of natural gas, that we have a colossal supply of natural gas that was being harnessed under President Trump and is not now correctly under Joe Biden.
Looking at propane, the situation is even worse.
A lot of Americans, a lot of working class folks, Fuel and heat their homes on propane.
Propane prices have nearly tripled since Joe Biden was elected.
So a lot of Americans who are already feeling the pain at the pump, driving around, are now going to also feel the intense pain of home heating bills.
And where's that going to take us, by the way?
It kind of harkens back to what a lot of folks, I barely remember this, if you're my age or older, you remember this, the 1970s.
We are unfortunately in a period of stagflation.
In this country.
And many people, even if they're not particularly politically involved, they can remember Jimmy Carter putting on a cardigan, getting in front of Americans saying, I need you to turn your thermostat down.
Well, we're facing a similar kind of quagmire right now in America.
Similar kind of malaise.
That was a word that Carter himself used.
There's an economic malaise in the country.
And by the way, Steve, again, not just my opinion, the polling is showing us this.
Economist, you go.
In its most recent poll, which just came out on Friday, they track very regularly right track, wrong track.
They simply ask the American people that simple question.
Is our country heading in the right track or the wrong track?
The most recent poll, 41% only say we are on the right track.
54% say we are on the wrong track.
So that is the wrong way underwater by 13 percentage points.
To put that in context, Steve, just in July, okay, just three months ago in July, 41% say we're on the right track right now.
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That's it. 41%.
steve cortes
53% said we were on the right track in July.
That's how quickly things have turned because of the Biden inflation spike.
We've lost 12% of Americans saying things are going right to not in just a matter of months.
And my warning for America, unfortunately, I hate to be the Grim Reaper, but as I look at the economic reality, as I look at the trends out there in markets, in financial data, in polling, all of it tells me This sets up for a miserable Christmas ahead, and it is Joe Biden's fault.
That's why I think it's proper to call it the Biden Blue Christmas.
steve bannon
No, tomorrow's news today, looking over the other side of the hill, we're now like we were on the debt ceiling months ago on Christmas.
I got to tell you, sir, I want to go back.
You were the first.
You and Navarro called stagflation as you saw their policies on Inauguration Day, on the 20th.
You're the first guy to come and say, hey, I see it's going back to the 70s.
One of the things we had back then with Carter was the Misery Index, which is a combination of unemployment rate and inflation, and I believe it reached, it peaked at 19 percent.
Combination of out-of-control interest rates and unemployment under Carter.
I think it was 19, might have been higher.
Biden right now, with the 5.3 percent inflation, coupled with the unemployment, he's getting close to double digits, is he not, Cortez?
I mean, we've got to start looking at Biden's Misery Index.
We've got to start tracking this, do we not?
steve cortes
No, he is getting there.
And by the way, I would even argue that the unemployment rate is not a great gauge right now because so many people have simply decided to opt out of the workforce.
And by the way, that situation is only going to get worse.
It was already bad, but it's only going to get worse in this fourth quarter that we're now in.
In the calendar.
Because why?
Because Joe Biden has now instituted what I think is a tyrannical and unconstitutional vaccine mandate, where nearly every employee in America, everybody who works for even a medium-sized or larger business, is going to be forced to get a vaccine.
It's going to be forced to get a vax that they may not want, that they may not need.
That is going to further deter workforce participation.
So while I think the headline unemployment jobless rate is likely to get worse from here, I'm not sure that accurately reflects the reality of a lot of folks who have just opted out of the workforce entirely.
You know, in January of 2020, before the CCP virus hit this country like an epidemiological Pearl Harbor, Steve.
In January of 2020, the highest workforce participation rate in all of history under the leadership of the Trump economic boom.
Economic nationalism, toughness in trade, on-shoring, controlling immigration, all of that was working magnificently.
Not surprisingly, into the spring of 2020 lockdowns, we saw the workforce participation number crater.
It then had a V-shaped, super V-shaped recovery.
It was coming back.
It was roaring back strong.
If you look at that number, I can put a chart up on my social media.
It has sidelined since Joe Biden took office.
They're at about 62%.
There seems to be a ceiling above which workers are not willing to work.
And again, I fear that number, if anything, is going to turn back over.
And start heading to the downside again in terms of workforce participation because of the vaccine mandate.
Look, that mandate, I think, is wrongheaded and dictatorial at any time.
But it's a particularly terrible idea at a time like this, when we are in such dire need of workers, again, particularly workers who are skilled to do things like drive trucks, like unload at the ports, like staffed warehouses, and particularly, again, into Christmas time.
You know, just today I was in a Walmart and I really noticed the emptiness of the shelves.
That's not because there's been a run on Walmart.
It's not because people are shopping like crazy on October 5th.
It's because they cannot supply enough right now.
And we are not even close to getting into the teeth to the guts of the Christmas buying season.
So I really believe that this could be just a disastrous situation.
And again, Joe Biden has to own it because things are bad going into this supply chain breakdown.
And he's making all of it massively exacerbated.
steve bannon
Okay, I know you're with me.
Just so you know, over the next 48 hours, we're going to have Steve back on.
He's the host, co-host of Cortez & Pellegrino tonight at 9 p.m.
Steve, I watch you every night, except tonight, it's Yankees-Red Sox, but I'll watch the clips afterwards.
Thank you very much for joining us.
Steve Cortez for Newsmax.
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Well, you know that the mainstream media and the left are terrified as are weak, woke rhinos.
Why?
Because the truth continues to come out.
I'm right here, Governor Eric Greitens, Navy SEAL, standing with Colonel Wendy Rogers, Arizona Senator.
eric greitens
We're here in Arizona, where the first quality, thorough audit of the 2020 election was done in Maricopa County.
unidentified
What did they find?
Over 50,000 illegal ballots.
That's why, supporters of President Trump, you should take heart.
Members of the War Room posse, take heart.
Patriots have continued to push.
And the big news today is that now it looks like there may be over 80,000 illegal ballots.
The more we dig into the 2020 election, the more evidence of fraud there is.
And Wendy, it's just really powerful how this has all come to light.
wendy rogers
Well, thank you for being here in Arizona, really where it all began.
Every state needs to decertify.
Every state representative and state senator needs to come forward, do the right thing, and fulfill his oath as a state legislator to decertify and recall electors if there was fault found in his or her state.
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Big news, War Room Posse.
Stay engaged.
Talk to you guys soon.
steve bannon
That's Eric Greitens.
He's running for the Senate out in a Republican primary in Missouri.
He's in Arizona, and that is, of course, Colonel Wendy Rogers.
I'm going to bring in now Boris Epstein.
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We're going to have some big explosive news coming out with the lawyers on MyPillow over the next couple days, or Mike Lindell's lawsuit.
So they're going to join us Thursday and Friday.
Or excuse me, yes, Thursday and Friday, not Wednesday.
But Thursday and Friday, we've got a lot of explosive news.
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I want to bring in Boris Epstein.
I want the audience to understand something.
I also want the left to understand something.
Boris Epstein's now on, I don't think, I don't know if you're on scene commander, but you're in Arizona.
You're hunkered down there until things get sorted, right?
Until we set this thing right?
Correct, Boris?
boris epshteyn
I'm here in Arizona, literally just ran in eating with Governor Graydon's, Arizona Senator Wendy Rogers, Colonel Wendy Rogers, Mark Fincham was there as well.
I am here right now.
You see the Arizona scene behind me.
Don't start any memes.
Everybody take it easy.
I am here.
And just as I arrived, we got additional information now.
We've got more numbers coming out.
Because as we said, the numbers that were presented still had to be completely digested.
The numbers that were presented now two Fridays ago.
They had to be digested.
They had to be processed.
And now we have even more information coming out.
I will tell you.
unidentified
In the meeting today... Hang on one second.
steve bannon
I want Denver to get the chart up.
Boris gets out there.
The report said 50,000.
People talking 50,000.
Boris Epstein is out there for less than 24, 48 hours.
I'm seeing a chart that's got an 8 in front of it.
unidentified
80,000.
boris epshteyn
We need the other tab.
steve bannon
We need the other tab.
Other chart.
Let's go, Denver.
Focus.
Let's go, dude.
Here's the thing.
People thought that report was the definitive final report.
Tell us about these numbers as they're shifting more.
How does that work?
Because I thought this thing was all done, it was all locked up.
boris epshteyn
So the report, of course, was definitive, right?
That was the report that was produced.
The numbers in the report still have to be processed, have to be reviewed, have to be deduped one more time.
And these numbers you see on screen right now are a combination of the report of Cyber Ninjas and the report that was provided by Dr. Shiva by Ecomail.
Dr. Shiva by Ecomail.
That is, and that number you see there, that 85,622 is up to the minute numbers of illegal ballots that have been de-duped, so if it's showing up on line 15, it is not also on line six.
These are just Maricopa County illegal ballots.
Again, in a state where 10,000 separate President Trump and Joe Biden.
That is the reality.
That is the truth.
That is what's happening.
unidentified
And Steve, just give me a real quick 10 more seconds.
boris epshteyn
This can't be overstated.
Because the left came in, that one line that snuck into the report, and we know why it got in there, because of rhino attorneys, people pushing nonsense that, oh, the hand count somehow matched up with Maricopa County's count.
That is nonsense.
steve bannon
Yeah, but you say, hang on, but stop.
You say rhino attorneys.
I don't want to hear it, because enough people in the Senate should have said, we're not putting that line in there.
That's very misleading.
If you count illegal ballots, remember, we have never said, in fact, the montage, the collage on the cover of the Time Magazine about how they stole it.
Had the guy holding up, one of the things was holding up, all votes count?
No, all votes don't count.
boris epshteyn
All legal votes.
steve bannon
Chain of custody of legal votes count from people called American citizens, okay?
That's what counts.
That's democracy, MSNBC.
We're democratic, you're anti-democratic, because you want to count all votes.
All votes don't count.
We're not going to count things that don't lack chain of custody, things that are illegal, illegitimate, or not from American citizens, which you haven't even gotten to the part yet.
Here's a question.
Colonel Wendy Rogers is talking about a code word now, a buzz word, called decertify.
What does that mean?
And where does that stand in the process?
boris epshteyn
What it means is to recall the electors.
What it means is that it is now clear beyond any doubt that Arizona should not have been certified for Joe Biden.
Let alone, Fox News calling it absolutely ludicrously with, you know, way too early for Joe Biden.
Shouldn't have been certified for Joe Biden because it's not clear that he won.
It's actually clear that he didn't.
Right?
So to decertify means that the Arizona legislature, which under the 10th Amendment, under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment, and under Article 2 of the Constitution and the 12th Amendment, the Arizona state legislature has the power to not just Certify the electors, not just conduct the election, but to recall the electors.
And that is my position as an attorney.
You know, Georgetown Law is not the worst school in the country.
That is my position that there is a constitutional path for this.
Others may disagree, and in the end that's going to end up in the Supreme Court, I believe.
But the next move is for the Arizona State Legislature to go into special session.
to special session and here's to what you said Steve to the state senators to the state representatives in Arizona the move is yours the focus is on you to do the right thing call yourselves into special session yes you have the power to do so and decertify now this is a historic moment and to you the MAGA posse the MAGA movement that's gotten us to this point always color within the lines but color boldly Make this happen.
Call your state senators, call your state representatives, and tell them, we want a special session in Arizona.
We want decertification.
To those of you in Georgia, same thing.
You want a special session.
All across the country, it's a freight train of audits, and it's a freight train of decertifications.
steve bannon
Okay, let's go to, real quickly, let's go to what's happening in Pennsylvania.
We've got a lot of the grassroots folks that are telling us, hey, Cormier's moving way too slow.
In fact, we're going to have Tony Shoup and some of the team on here later in the week, either tomorrow or later in the week.
But they're saying, hey, you got played by the establishment.
What is the reality in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania?
boris epshteyn
Here's the current reality.
He had those two lawsuits filed, one by the Democrats, and then Attorney General Josh Shapiro came in hot because he wants to be the first Jewish president.
We all know that's going to be Governor Eric Greitens, who you just saw on your screen.
So Shapiro came in hot.
Corman and the Republican State Senate actually moved to consolidate the lawsuits in order to move quicker.
Remember, in Arizona, it took about five-plus months of legal action to get to an audit in the canvas.
In Georgia, we're still in legal action.
So, the subpoenas just went out a few weeks ago.
The legal action by Shapiro only happened about a week ago.
There's going to be a legal process to play out.
That happened in Arizona, and if we're following the timeline of Arizona, we're actually early in that legal process.
But what Corman did do, and always credit where it's due, and then we call him out where we have to, is he did move to consolidate and to expedite hearings.
So right, as of right now, the next hearing is, you're not going to be happy to hear this, but this is court scheduling.
This is not state senate scheduling.
The hearing is on November 5th.
That is not soon enough, and I know for a fact that Cormyn and the state senate is pushing to expedite further, and I'm pushing for that as well.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to pivot now.
I know we've got a lot going on at 3 November.
By the way, we're going to have some special announcements about 3 November in the next couple of days.
3 November, a very big date.
We're coming up on the one-year anniversary.
So make sure we're going to have announcements tomorrow, Thursday, and Friday about 3 November.
Certain things going on.
Things around 3 November.
I want to pivot back here to D.C.
Boris, you're out there in one of the states.
There's a battle royale back here about the debt ceiling and about the spending.
You're one of the best guys to look at this polling.
Biden's numbers are absolutely in a free fall and collapse.
Even the mainstream media has got to pick it up now about independence.
What is your sense of where this debt ceiling is going to come out?
Schumer's trying to pull every trick in the book.
The Senate looks like they're taking a hard stand.
Walk us through.
We've got about a minute.
boris epshteyn
They don't have it.
They don't have it.
And when Biden showed up in Congress and started whipping against his own bill, that showed such ineptitude.
That showed such fecklessness and, honestly, such lack of leadership that whatever tiny political capital he had, which was already at zero, absolutely dissipated.
What you're seeing is the type of civil war the Democrats have not had in a long time.
The Democrat Party is absolutely in a bloodbath with one another.
And with that, it only stands to Republicans to continue to be strong, to not bend.
Chuck Schumer is as weak as any Senate Majority Leader has ever been, so it is incumbent upon Republicans to stand strong, not give an inch, because the Democrats are in a circular firing squad, in a dumpster fire, whatever metaphor you want.
Okay, we've got about 20 seconds.
into the twos, the twenties, and they're going deeper into the tens. This is a disaster, a total disaster for Joe Biden. He has no agenda. He has no political capital. His presidency is over. He's an illegitimate president who is absolutely powerless.
steve bannon
Okay, we got about 20 seconds. Walk us through social media.
boris epshteyn
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Go sign up right today.
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Coming in super hot on Getter at BorisEP, on Getter at BorisEP, Twitter at BorisEP, and of course, hot on the gram, Boris underscore Epstein.
Stay strong.
God bless.
All eyes on Arizona.
steve bannon
Glad you're in Arizona.
Okay, we're gonna go to the border with Todd Bensman next in The War Room.
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14 past the hour and along the border of Colombia and Panama, thousands of Haitian migrants are venturing through the Darién Gap, 66 miles of roadless jungle and onward to the United States.
They've got to go through Central America, Mexico to get to the United States.
DHS warning that 400,000 migrants could arrive at the U.S.
border just this month.
Joining me now, live from Necocli, Colombia, NBC News correspondent Gabe Gutierrez.
Gabe, good morning.
What are you seeing there?
Hey there, Jose, as you can see behind me, you mentioned there were thousands of migrants here, and there's a good number in this stretch here in Nicolete, Colombia.
We're here at the beach of this tourist town that has now been overrun in some ways by migrants.
steve bannon
Okay, we can go ahead and let me bring in Todd Bensman.
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I want to bring in Todd Bensman.
Remember, we had Michael Yan down there starting in January and February.
Where Peter Navarro said we're going to get 2 million illegal aliens.
The great Todd Bensmans from CIS joins us right now.
Todd, you've been, I mean, this Darien Gap is one of the most dangerous parts of the world and that's where folks come in.
That's the connection point between really South America, Colombia, and Panama, Central America.
That is the path.
When you have these migrants, you have these these migrants coming up from That's right.
I have a piece out today at CIS.org, Center for Immigration Studies, quoting the numbers.
You're now predicting, you were down at Del Rio, you've been pretty good at saying, hey, this is where the next hit's going to come.
You're saying now they're coming up through Latin America, they're coming through Central America.
You think the next place is in Yuma, Arizona.
Am I correct in that?
todd bensman
That's right.
I have a piece out today at cis.org, Center for Immigration Studies, quoting the numbers.
I just go by the numbers, the data, which is showing a 2,400% increase in migrants moving through Arizona, right at the California-Arizona line.
We've had 91,000 so far this year cross through that, normally a pretty sleepy area, and it's the same nationality makeup as we saw in Del Rio.
Lots and lots of Haitians, lots and lots of Cubans from the Caribbean and from nations all over the world.
and so What I'm seeing is probably a major influx when that 60 to 80,000 starts coming.
They're not going to go to Del Rio now because they were doing repatriation.
That's got stench all over it over there, so they're going to head over to Yuma.
I'm pretty sure that the numbers that we're seeing now, which are astronomical already in Yuma, ...are only going to escalate from here as those immigrants get to the border.
steve bannon
Todd, you talk about escalation.
I've got to do the rules of thumb.
NBC and DHS are reporting 400,000 in October as the desert cools down.
unidentified
400,000.
steve bannon
If they're saying 400,000, in your rule of thumb, how many of that translate to illegal aliens actually get in the country?
todd bensman
Well, I think probably if there are 400,000, I think that might be a little bit high, but if there are, all of them will attempt.
The family units will probably all be let in.
The pregnant women and the unaccompanied children will be let in probably right away.
And the day that they lift Title 42 on the single adults, everybody will get in.
Everybody gets in to go apply for asylum and disappear forever.
But listen, It's so dire out there now, you can go to the Border Patrol, the Chief Border Patrol Agent's Twitter account, and he's just like streaming 2,500 this weekend, 1,000 yesterday.
They're having to draw Border Patrol agents from other already beleaguered parts of the border to Arizona to take care of the processing duty.
Remember that, processing duty?
And they're building...
They're building more tents out there, so you've got a big tent situation.
The Border Patrol believes that there is a huge influx coming to Yuma.
steve bannon
When can we anticipate this, Todd?
When can people start focusing on this surge that's going to come across Yuma?
todd bensman
Right, well, it's already blowing up now, so it's going to probably take another couple of weeks.
For the really large, I guess it's kind of like the bulge in the snake's body kind of moving through.
And I think that, you know, we're just going to see a steady escalation week by week, month by month.
I think the August numbers were 17,000.
I'm going to guess that the September numbers might be as much as twice that once they're out in a few days.
And it's just going to keep on going like that, ballooning up like Del Rio.
steve bannon
Real quickly, what can people do about it?
The Biden administration, this is absolutely an invasion, and they make no bones about it.
I mean, they've pulled off all the interior issues, all the interior issues about shipping people back.
It's totally open borders.
They're drawing people in by this half-hearted, oh, please don't come.
Come, right?
Please don't come.
Make sure you get here quick.
What can average citizens do right now?
Besides reading your book, besides going to CIS, besides being a force multiplier on the material you're putting out here at the War Room, what would you recommend the millions of people watching this broadcast right now?
todd bensman
I'm asked this all the time, and honestly, I'm just short.
I come up short.
This is an executive branch lever on that thing.
Congress, the Republicans in Congress, are powerless to do anything about this except get on a bully stand or something.
You can't really do much.
steve bannon
What about the governors of Texas and the governor of Arizona?
The governor of Arizona of beauty, right, Ducey?
You've got enough Republican governors down there, what can they do about it?
todd bensman
Yeah, right now I don't see that Ducey is doing much at all.
Abbott's doing some things down at the border, you know, putting people down there to catch the drug smugglers where the Border Patrol agents left.
Regular citizens like me and you, all we can do is just bring information to the table.
I've got a piece that's going to run in The Federalist tomorrow that talks about how the governments of Colombia, Panama, and Costa Rica are the smugglers.
They are moving these people through their territories and making sure by government bus.
And what I am advocating is That the Biden administration, they probably won't.
They probably won't do this.
Nobody, even the Trump people didn't do this, should require that Panama and Costa Rica knock it off.
Stop moving those people through.
Turn them around.
Give them money for repatriation flights and that sort of thing.
But that's a diplomatic solution.
steve bannon
Good luck.
Good luck.
Good luck with the Biden administration.
They want as many here as possible.
Todd, how can people get you?
How do they get to the book?
How do they get to your writings?
How can they find you?
What's your social media?
todd bensman
Okay, America's Covert Border War is my book.
It's available anywhere.
Benzman at Getter and Benzman Todd on Twitter still.
steve bannon
Okay, Todd, I know you got to bounce.
Thank you very much for coming in today.
A lot more border coverage tomorrow.
We're going to be down.
Michael Yan's back in McAllen, Texas.
We also, I think, have Charles Herbster's running for the governorship of Nebraska.
He's in the Rio Grande Valley.
Every town's a border town.
Every county's a border county.
Let's go now to, I want to introduce somebody that the Attorney General and the Justice Department, the FBI is referring to as domestic terrorist, April Carney.
April, Why?
You've been at the lead.
You've been at the tip of the spear in organizing moms.
I know you got lawsuits down in Florida.
You've been at the tip of the spear of organizing people to go to these school boards to confront people, whether it's CRT or other issues about masks, etc.
The School Board Association went whining that you guys are too mean, right?
You say nasty things.
And they went whining to the Justice Department.
Next thing you know, you got a letter out that the mainstream media is saying, oh, these moms are domestic terrorists.
This is a new form of domestic terrorism.
What say you, ma'am?
unidentified
I think that they might be a little afraid that we're starting to realize what's going on with our kids in school.
In fact, we had an emergency board meeting here in Duval County last week and we were told that we're not allowed to clap because it's a safety issue.
I don't understand now.
Woah, woah, woah.
steve bannon
What do you mean?
Clapping is a safety issue?
Don't drop a bomb, it's a buried leaf.
In Duval County, they said the parents can't clap after people get to the microphone because that's a safety issue?
What do they mean by that?
unidentified
Yes, they said that we were not following the proper decorum in the room and that they were going to have to remove us from the room because we continued to clap.
steve bannon
What is the the bit in the ass down there on CRT, masks, vaccines?
What is it?
The school boards, they just admit they don't care how many parents show up.
They don't care how you how concerned you are.
They just refuse to move on any of these topics.
unidentified
Basically, I mean, last week at the meeting, there were 53 people that spoke.
51 of those people that spoke were against masking the children, and they still moved to keep violating Governor DeSantis's law and continue to mask the children.
steve bannon
What is their, when they make that, when they, when DeSantis is the governor and he's basically put this policy in, you've got parents at the other end, so you've got both the high and the low.
What is their rationale after they finish 53, 51 to 53 say we don't want to do it?
What logic do they come up with?
How do they make that argument to try to convince you they're doing the right thing?
unidentified
They continue to go by CDC guidelines and they continue to move the goalposts just like the CDC does.
Right now in Duval County, we're at a moderate level.
We're below 8% positivity and they're still telling us that they're going to keep going right now because it's just not low enough.
One day we're getting told that there's a medical opt-out and then the next day we're told there's no medical opt-out and that you can't have Any way of getting out of masking the child, whether you're special needs or have some kind of physical issue that prevents you from wearing a mask.
steve bannon
April, is this warning by the Attorney General and the FBI that are referring to you and the 51 of the 53, your friends, neighbors, concerned parents, that you are essentially, potentially domestic terrorist and they're going to start monitoring you?
Is that going to scare you guys?
Are you going to back off at all?
unidentified
No, not at all.
In fact, that's why I decided to throw my hat in the ring on Friday and run for Duval County School Board for my district.
I think that we need more parents involved and less bureaucrats and people that are following the union and the CDC guidance on what should be right and what should be done for our kids.
The parents are the ones that make the decisions for the children, not the government.
steve bannon
We're so proud.
This is one of the reasons we want to have you on.
We want every parent out there.
By the way, that's why the left-wing media is freaking out about this show.
We want you to sign up to be a volunteer election official, not just to be a poll watcher to be in the room.
We want you to go to precinctstrategy.com right now and go sign up to be a precinct committeeman.
Okay?
We want you to go to these school boards, whether it's for CRT, critical race theory, vaccines, mass mandates, and We want you to do what April Carney's doing.
Eventually say, you know what?
I'm going to run.
We've got to remove these people.
I'm going to run.
That's democracy.
We want MSNBC and CNN to suck on that.
This is called applied populism.
When does the election take place, April?
And how can we follow it?
unidentified
The primary is August 22nd.
So right now I'm just leaning towards that.
I'm hoping that will be done in August.
And then we'll move on to November, if not.
steve bannon
Okay, real quickly, how can people follow you?
I know you've got a Telegram channel.
How do people follow you?
unidentified
I have a website.
It's aprilcarney.com.
On Facebook and Instagram, I'm aprilacarney, getter aprilacarney.
And on Telegram, it's the Sunshine State Action Team is our group.
steve bannon
You guys are amazing.
April, keep fighting and don't let... We know Merrick Garland and Chris Wray, the FBI, the Justice Department are not going to scare you.
You're going to keep fighting down there.
This is inspirational.
These parents are not going to back off.
Remember, first the people that are going to do the canvas.
Remember the letter from May from the Justice Department?
Hey!
Your potential criminal charges if you go do the canvas.
Same thing now at the school boards.
Your potential domestic terrorists.
Just write it all down in your book.
Okay, got that.
We're potential domestic terrorists.
That's where the call is.
Short break, Royce White, a fire-breathing populist about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar next.
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steve bannon
Okay, I want to come back.
We got something from Senior Chief Petty Officer Gallagher who could not join us, but this is about Colonel Scheller.
Colonel Scheller was released today from the brig with no restrictions except the unlawful gag order while he awaits court-martial.
This shows he never belonged in there in the first place and they took that action to further torment him for speaking the truth and asking for accountability.
The Marine Corps is still keeping the unlawful gag order in place and hopes he will violate it again so they can point the finger at Stu and take everyone's mind off the accountability message.
By the way, Senior Chief Capettioster and Bernie came on about everybody we opened up said, hey, if you want a refund given what he said about President Trump, Trump's family and General Flynn, just go to Pipe Hitters, get it.
I think they said that beforehand they'd had 150 of the 30,000 donations.
They'd had, I think, 175 people had requested.
After the war room, 50 of those came back and said, hey, guess what?
No harm, no foul.
We support the search for accountability.
I want to bring in somebody now, a very special individual, Royce White, one of the stars over the Big Three Basketball League, but a basketball star for his entire career, and also one of the top thinkers and fire-breathing populists in the country.
I've been working on Royce for a while to get into politics.
He's a leader.
Okay, and I've been talking to him about the governorship up there in Minnesota.
He's got that gain of function.
On the day Collins resigns, he's in your face.
Royce is in the Chinese Communist Party's face and guys like Fauci non-stop.
But you've got a piece up in your sub-stack.
We're going to push it out about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
I'm just going to toss it to you.
What's the problem and what's your beef, Royce White, as a populist with what Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, one of the greatest basketball players, if not the greatest in history, is doing?
royce white
Thanks for having me, Steve.
You know, it's time for leaders to step up and take the reins of our society back, and specifically black leaders.
I think that radical authoritarianism is on the move.
And a strong cohort of black public figures have opted in.
They jumped onto the bandwagon and said, let's get ours.
And, you know, they are, you know, subsidized and sanctioned by the establishment.
And as a result, they've become puppets for this liberal unit party.
And I think Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and his shaming of Kyrie Irving and the other NBA players that have been hesitant about vaccination or who have challenged the mandates is a prime example of that.
steve bannon
Royce, didn't you think that these individuals came out?
I keep saying, those NBA players that talked about natural immunity, to me, was the best articulation and best walkthrough the scientific evidence of anybody.
What did Kareem have?
What was his problem with what these guys like?
They really talked about data, evidence, and what we call science.
So what was his problem with that?
royce white
Well, I think his problem is what we see from much of the, you know, dogmatic Left on this COVID-19 issue is that they clearly have not even listened to the explanation that was given by people like Isaac or even Bradley Beals, I thought, was decent.
They haven't even listened.
And if that's not a sign of corruption, then there's the obvious possibility that they have heard it, that they know the same science and data, that they know all of the talking points, and they've decided to just lie.
And I think that's one of the one of the mainstays of the status quo now in our society is, you know, corporatocracy, technocracy and outright lies.
steve bannon
Look, you've always been a player and a great player.
When you hear this element, the guys that say it's about the team and not the individual, even when they're defending the science of natural immunity, which we know is 20 times more powerful, and we know from the Project Veritas video, the Pfizer executive, they agree with it.
How do you counter the argument in your piece when they say, well, it's really about the team and you can't be an individual in this regard?
royce white
There's always going to be people who claim to be protecting the safety of others and taking away individual rights in the name of, and you know, my question to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and many of these bulk athletes is, where were the coalitions?
Where were the mandatory social duty coalitions around mental health?
They were all silent when it was mental health.
Where have they been?
Well, as the Federal Reserve over the last 15 years has created this Neo feudal society that has produced economic hardship on the black community and firsthand contributes to COVID-19 outcomes from a from an economic standpoint, socioeconomic standpoint.
Where are they?
Where were they during the Occupy Wall Street movement?
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar wasn't out there on the front lines of the Occupy Wall Street movement.
They weren't on the front.
A lot of them weren't on the front lines after George Floyd was murdered.
They're not talking about the monopoly on violence or things of that nature.
And for God's sakes, we know there's no strong cohort of athletes that are speaking out against the Chinese Communist Party and their genocide against the Uyghurs, which, as time goes on, we see is more and more grotesque.
So, I mean, these coalitions that they're talking about building or that they're saying are just a given, really, they're just, you know, they're issues that have already been laid up by the liberal establishment.
And like I said, they just want to ride the bandwagon.
It's disgusting.
You know, I'm more than angry and disappointed.
I'm actually disgusted by people like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
He's Muslim.
You're leading the coalition that has to meet the challenge of COVID-19, when you can clearly see that the establishment has overlooked the preponderance of evidence around natural immunity, and you have nothing to say about the Uyghurs?
It's so dishonest, I can barely stand it.
steve bannon
We've got about a minute.
I've got to ask you, because you led a protest during the George Floyd situation to the Federal Reserve headquarters in Minnesota, in Minneapolis.
What do you think now of this debt ceiling?
You've got all the central bankers, all the Wall Street guys yelling, all the corporatocracy, everybody's pitching to just raise the debt ceiling and do away with it.
Where does Royce White stand on this?
royce white
Well, I like you, Steve, and I think Marjorie has asked the proper question.
Where is the $30 trillion going?
And what evidence is there that these corrupt politicians, that this Liberal Uniparty, can be trusted in spending our tax money and be trusted with an increase?
And then, like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has suggested, with this kind of idea that if you don't follow the mandates, then you don't get paid.
You're going to put the burden of individual worker rights on the worker, on the working class?
I mean, there's nothing more authoritarian and totalitarian than that.
The working class has to carry the brunt of the national debt.
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