Sept. 13, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | |
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is gonna be a real serious problem. | ||
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | |
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, it's Monday, 13 September, Year of Our Lord 2021. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| Over 85 million downloads of the podcast. | ||
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| Simulcast in Mandarin and Japanese. | ||
| I want to go to Dr. Cole. | ||
| We teach up in the last segment. | ||
| So what's your answer, sir? | ||
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Okay, here's where we really need to pivot. | |
| The fact is, we're currently giving a shot that's for the Wuhan strain. | ||
| Wuhan stopped circulating in most of the world around about January, February. | ||
| We're on to the Delta strain. | ||
| Giving a shot right now is like saying to healthcare workers, okay, flu season's coming. | ||
| We want everybody to get a flu shot. | ||
| By the way, we've got some leftover shots in the freezer from four or five years ago. | ||
| The healthcare workers would laugh. | ||
| They would balk. | ||
| They'd go, no, I want this year's shot. | ||
| And we know that the efficacy on these, a Mayo Clinic study where I trained, Mayo's like, okay, look, Pfizer and J&J are below threshold where they would even be approved at this point. | ||
| So this is, with these mandates going on, with a broad amount of people having natural immunity, not needing a shot, literally not needing a shot, and vaccines that have really been escaped by the current variant of the virus, the Delta, this is where we as a group need to pivot. | ||
| The vaccinated are going to get Delta, the unvaccinated are going to get Delta, a lot of people are going to get Delta. | ||
| The answer to that is, don't wait till they are near death's door, treat them early. | ||
| So the message is, there's not a one-size-fits-all approach. | ||
| You know, there are people that may need a vaccine in elderly cohorts, there are especially people in younger cohorts that don't, that survive this virus at a hundred percent statistically, and then there's those in between, the majority of which do fine unless you have comorbidities. | ||
| So this Everything's a hammer, everything's a nail approach from the government is the absolute wrong approach and it's anti-science. | ||
| We are not giving proper abeyance to what the real science is. | ||
| The real science is natural immunity. | ||
| The real science is we've always treated early when disease is present. | ||
| The real science is you don't vaccinate everybody in the middle of a fast spreading pandemic. | ||
| You focus on the appropriate protocols and treatments for the appropriate groups And you use logic. | ||
| You use science. | ||
| You don't use a bully pulpit. | ||
| You don't use, you know, politicians telling you what to do. | ||
| People in these organizations that are three-letter agencies, they haven't touched a patient like all of us have. | ||
| We're the ones treating the patients. | ||
| We know what works, and we're doing it. | ||
| Sure, vaccines had some utility early on and decreased hospitalization and death. | ||
| Great, but that strain's not here. | ||
| These shots aren't updated. | ||
| I mean, these shots are essentially expiring and wouldn't even meet threshold for approval now. | ||
| Let me just ask you, I just want to go to the Mayo Clinic study, which didn't get a lot of obvious attention by the mainstream media. | ||
| Is that the one that said the efficacy is at 39%? | ||
| I think it was. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| What was the efficacy number? | ||
| You said it was below? | ||
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Yeah, it was like 42%, 39%. | |
| And the problem with that is, You know, that was a month and a half, two months ago now, so the efficacy would be far less for Delta now, especially when you look at the Israel and UK data. | ||
| We know that, and we're headed that way here. | ||
| So it's really disingenuous to say, get a shot, get a shot, when we have early treatments, and we know that these have essentially escaped. | ||
| So, Dr. Malone, you take it and pick whoever you want to answer. | ||
| But if Biden now has said, and he was pretty rude about it, there's a pandemic of the unvaccinated. | ||
| He's basically going to empower companies through OSHA to essentially say you get a vaccine or a test. | ||
| And you see Fauci's talent already signaling they're going to go to forget the test. | ||
| You've got to be hardcore with the vaccine. | ||
| What are people then supposed to do? | ||
| And how can your Pandemic Health Alliance help people get access to information and doctors that can talk about alternative therapeutic solutions and particularly focus also on natural immunity? | ||
| So how are you guys going to effectuate actually having an impact here? | ||
| Besides, you wrote a great manifesto. | ||
| We're going to get that up. | ||
| Dr. Gesling is going to repeat that. | ||
| We're going to put it up on the website. | ||
| But besides manifestos and these great thoughts, walk us through the practicality of how you guys are going to have an impact. | ||
| So Steve, you're exactly right. | ||
| The government has decided to go full authoritarian here. | ||
| It's not just the implementation of OSHA rules and all of this arm twisting having to do with commercial entities that are sufficiently large that the government can influence them. | ||
| We also have one of the largest healthcare corporations and organizations in America, the Healthcare Corporation of America, HCA, is one of the largest, if not the largest, Healthcare provider organization, the United States, and they have elected not to mandate vaccines. | ||
| And so what the government is doing to all the hospitals and all the practitioners is saying, if you don't get vaccinated, if you don't insist that all of your personnel get vaccinated, we're going to retaliate on you through Medicare and Medicaid. | ||
| We're going to refuse to allow you to treat patients that are compensated under these pathways. | ||
| So they're putting the levers and the pressure on everybody. | ||
| I don't know what can be done at this point. | ||
| We're in the hands of Republican governors and attorneys general that are resisting this unprecedented federal overreach. | ||
| But meanwhile, for the average person that faces this horrible choice of a mandated medical procedure that they may not wish to take versus losing their job, There's not a whole lot that we can do at this point as physicians. | ||
| What we can do is look forward. | ||
| We know that this approach is not going to stop this pandemic in the United States. | ||
| The CDC slide deck showed it explicitly that was leaked to the Washington Post. | ||
| We talked about that earlier. | ||
| We can at best slow this spread of Delta and the development of further mutants through various policies, but we're not going to stop it. | ||
| So, what our group can do is give people options when they do get infected, when they do get disease, to keep them from these really disastrous outcomes in death of this bizarre policy of not treating anybody until they're so sick that they have to go to the hospital. | ||
| We're going to get access to all the Pandemic Health Alliance so people may contact. | ||
| But Dr. Gesling, I think you said earlier at the beginning you were let go by your job as a physician by the health group or the community hospital you did. | ||
| Are you guys concerned? | ||
| The licensing groups at the state level or AMA or whoever controls it is going to start taking your licenses and make it impossible. | ||
| If you go down this path, they're trying to say, hey, there's alternatives here and you've got to make these available for the Hippocratic Oath and for our relationship with our patients. | ||
| Given the fact that they're already starting to fire doctors from these organizations, are you concerned they're going to start taking your license to practice away? | ||
| I think that's underlying in the back of all of our minds, but the main priority is that we just continue treating patients and we hope that eventually the truth is available and accessible and that that type of thing doesn't actually happen. | ||
| As far as the message of the Pandemic Health Alliance, we hope to provide hope to patients. | ||
| We want that. | ||
| We want to show that outpatient treatment, early outpatient treatment works, and that's the goal of our of our organization. And we also want, I also want to point out that as far as treatment, we're treating the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. They're both getting sick equally in my practice. And the ability to care for patients is critical. And so, as you said, you know, we do have concerns that these overarching organizations will strong arm us, | ||
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but that's why we're here. Dr. Cole, your thoughts about that? | |
| Yeah, I think the point is we're a free people. | ||
| We don't want to be the CCP. | ||
| We want to be America, and Americans are going to fight back. | ||
| I mean, this is a 1776 moment, and you can strong arm, you can threaten. | ||
| At the end of the day, we're physicians that took oaths to save lives of patients. | ||
| That's what we're doing right now, to Heather's point. | ||
| And at the same time, we're going to do everything we can to let science, let the cream rise to the top. | ||
| These false policies that aren't going to stop anything, We need to, you know, show that the emperor has no clothes, because that's really what we're seeing scientifically. | ||
| You know, nothing scientific should be mandated from a government entity. | ||
| And so, yes, we're going to stand up, we're going to fight for freedom, and we as an alliance are going to get the message out of how we can do that, and we're going to continue to fight for our patients, and we're going to continue to encourage our colleagues to do the same. | ||
| And if they need to step outside the system, they do. | ||
| But at the end of the day, we took an oath, and that oath is sacred, and we're going to honor it. | ||
| When you say, Dr. Cole, this is a 1776 moment, do you mean that if we acquiesce to this, if people just kowtow to the government mandates, do you think that this is irrevocably that we've lost our freedom? | ||
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I'm afraid we're headed that direction. | |
| We're in unprecedented times. | ||
| We're certainly at a crossroad. | ||
| And we've never seen anything like this, where people from all nations in lockstep are doing the same things, yet creative nations Their pandemic is over, and so if we look around the world and say, wait, who's been successful? | ||
| That's where we should look for the examples. | ||
| But we don't need a heavy-handed, one-size-fits-all approach. | ||
| It's illogical. | ||
| It's anti-science. | ||
| It's against who we are as a people. | ||
| It's why we went into medicine to figure out how to do all sorts of things, not just only one thing. | ||
| So this concept is mind-boggling, to be honest. | ||
| But yes, this is a freedom moment. | ||
| And we need to fight back. | ||
| Dr. Malone, I want to wrap up here with you. | ||
| You know, the the I think it was Biden that they said it's not about your freedom. | ||
| It's about public health. You've you're not an anti-vaccine. | ||
| You spent your career actually working in the area of vaccinology. | ||
| What are your thoughts here to summarize this? | ||
| Pandemic Health Alliance, new group you've helped put together. | ||
| We're going to send everybody to your website. | ||
| We're going to get a lot of people to at least take a look at it, right? | ||
| And weigh and measure if it's right for them. | ||
| But what are your thoughts about how you go forward and how you make this a bigger movement and get people more access to the information and particularly to the physicians that you guys are coordinating? | ||
| So what we're doing both here in Rome with the international COVID Uh, meeting where we're bringing together physicians from all over the world and in the United States with the alliance that you're speaking to now is to make available the actual data and make available key protocols that can be reliably used to treat people, whether you're vaccinated or unvaccinated. | ||
| This is not about the vaccines. | ||
| This is about treating patients and their illness, whether they're vaccinated or unvaccinated. | ||
| We're having an epidemic of death and disease that is unnecessary, and paradoxically, which other nations are not seeing in the same way that we are. | ||
| Other nations are not taking this one hammer, one approach that we've been pursuing here in the United States. | ||
| They're being pragmatic. | ||
| They're treating patients, they're making these agents available, and what we intend to do is to open up channels of communication and new media that'll make it so that physicians are able to speak to each other, able to get access to this information, able to learn and understand and see for themselves what are the experiences, what are the protocols, what are the outcomes. | ||
| They can make their own decisions. | ||
| Our position is not to, unlike the government, not to tell physicians how to practice medicine, but rather to enable communication and sharing of information so we can learn together as a clinical medical community like we always have in the past. | ||
| We're trying to respond in real time to this unprecedented public health crisis and we're having to do so with our hands tied behind our back Based on bureaucrats in D.C. | ||
| mandating what shall and shall not be done. Okay, okay for our audience we're gonna have Dr. Heather Gesling, she's gonna have the complete manifesto, we're gonna put that up in the website across the board in the live chats, we want everybody to push it out, rip up all the websites, all the social media. Dr. Mullen, I want to thank you, I want to thank Real America's Voice, I haven't pulled this together, it's a very, very tough group to kind of get organized. | ||
| Dr. Heather Glessling, Dr. Ryan Cole, and of course, Dr. | ||
| Malone, thank you very much for being here in the War Room. | ||
| We're going to continue the show and look forward. | ||
| By the way, we're going to be talking about this, the Pandemic Health Alliance, every day a major new group that's come together to kind of give an alternative to the one-size-fits-all vaccination policy of Joe Biden and Tony Fauci. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We'll return to the show in just a moment. | ||
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We'll be right back. | |
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| It's all started, everything's begun, and you are over because we're taking down the War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| If we get the overwhelming proportion of the population vaccinated, we will get to herd immunity. | ||
| If we do it in the next six months, it will happen in the next six months. | ||
| If we do it in the next two months, it'll happen in the next two months. | ||
| I would support that. | ||
| If you want to get on a plane and travel with other people, that you should be vaccinated. | ||
| When you hear us say, should you mandate vaccination for children to be able to attend school, Some people say, oh my goodness, that would be terrible to do that. | ||
| But we already do that and have been doing that for decades and decades. | ||
| I don't know what school you went to, but the school that I went to, you had to be vaccinated for measles, mumps, rubella, polio, or otherwise you couldn't go to school. | ||
| So it is not something new. | ||
| To mandate vaccines for school children. | ||
| The solution that we have at our hands is vaccines. | ||
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And just real quickly, there was a study that came out of Israel about natural immunity, and basically the headline was that natural immunity provides a lot of protection, even better than the vaccines alone. | |
| What are people to make of that? | ||
| So as we talk about vaccine mandates, I get calls all the time, people say, I've already had COVID, I'm protected, and now the study says maybe even more protected than the vaccine alone. | ||
| Should they also get the vaccine? | ||
| How do you make the case to them? | ||
| You know, that's a really good point, Sanjay. | ||
| I don't have a really firm answer for you on that. | ||
| That's something that we're going to have to discuss regarding the durability of the response. | ||
| The one thing the paper from Israel didn't tell you is whether or not as high as the protection is with natural infection, what's the durability compared to the durability of a vaccine. | ||
| So it is conceivable that you got infected, you're protected. | ||
| But you may not be protected for an indefinite period of time. | ||
| So I think that is something that we need to sit down and discuss seriously because you very appropriately pointed out it is an issue and there could be an argument for saying what you said. | ||
| Okay, we're live in the War Room. | ||
| You're telling me Tony Fauci did not call the Israeli doctors that did the study? | ||
| Natural immunity, and it wasn't slightly higher, it's 20 times greater. | ||
| Okay, we're in the War Room. | ||
| It is Monday, 13 September, Year of the Lord 2021. | ||
| I just want to say, talking about the last part of the show, People I hope people understand Dr. Malone, Dr. Gesling, Dr. Cole, all these other doctors associated with the Pandemic Health Alliance, and these other doctors that are trying to talk about alternatives. | ||
| And they're not saying, you know, they're not a lot of these are not hardcore, hey, if you want to get the vaccine and form consent, you do what you you got to do, but they're trying to give alternatives. | ||
| Each and every one of these doctors is a true patriot and hero, and here's why. | ||
| They're putting their professional lives on the line. | ||
| They can have their licenses pulled at any time, and they understand this, and I think that is very important for people to understand. | ||
| When these people come up and try to talk evidence-based, data-based, science-based, they are putting their careers on the line, and we're going to try to get Dr. Malone at the end of the show from Rome for a summary, but we're going to be all over this. | ||
| We're very blessed we have Natalie Winters and Jack Posovic. | ||
| Kind of an ending and a beginning today and we want to talk about that. | ||
| Natalie Winters joins us. | ||
| I want both you guys to address the Fauci situation. | ||
| But Natalie, today is your last day kind of in studio for us for a while. | ||
| You're returning. | ||
| To college. | ||
| The top investigative reporter in Washington, D.C. | ||
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is a college, I think you're a sophomore, a rising junior. | |
| You're returning to the University of Chicago. | ||
| Going to spend some time with your folks and then going. | ||
| So this is Natalie's last day, at least for a while, in studio. | ||
| She'll be obviously joining us every time she breaks the story. | ||
| She'll still be putting up great stuff for the National Pulse. | ||
| But Natalie, I just want to say thank you so much. | ||
| You've been such a role model for young people out there. | ||
| You've done an incredible, you're a role model for everybody, but I keep telling Parents and grandparents, if you want to see the rising generation of leaders in this country, Natalie Winters is a fantastic example. | ||
| So thank you for taking your last day and coming in here to the War Room. | ||
| We really appreciate it. | ||
| Well, thank you for always having me on, and I look forward to keeping up my work and coming on just via Skype. | ||
| Well, and Jack Posobiec, we're going to talk a little bit later. | ||
| What goes to show you, Steve, that Generation Z is not completely useless. | ||
| I think they're the best. | ||
| Well, most of them are. | ||
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I keep saying that these young generations... I love my Zoomers. | |
| No, I think they're the new greatest generation. | ||
| I tell you, take care of the grandparents, great-grandparents. | ||
| Jack, in partnership with Charlie Kirk, the great Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA, you're launching a new show today. | ||
| You're going to be able, hopefully, to keep dropping by the War Room because you're going to be in that part of town to get everybody up to speed. | ||
| But you've got an action-packed new show that will launch this afternoon, correct? | ||
| So we've got Natalie is departing for the University of Chicago. | ||
| She's still going to be a big part of the family and on all the time when she's putting up stories on the redesigned National Pulse for Raheem Kassam and the team. | ||
| But she'll be by Skype. | ||
| And of course, Jack will be launching a new show, and we'll talk about that a little more later. | ||
| I want to talk about Fauci. | ||
| The vaccine mandates, I tell you, they've gone all in on this. | ||
| And I want to first start with you, Natalie, given your history of this guy, and then Jack. | ||
| Is this the guy that you think, Biden made a bet, the UK pulled off vaccine mandates over the weekend, right? | ||
| And now Biden has not just doubled down, he's tripled down. | ||
| And we didn't have the Fauci clip in there where Fauci said the other day he would he would be harder than Biden. | ||
| He would not allow testing at companies. | ||
| He would not allow alternative testing. | ||
| He would say 100% vaccination or you lose your job. | ||
| You can't come in the office. | ||
| Natalie Winters, let's start with you. | ||
| Then we'll go to Jack. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Well, I think the reason that Fauci keeps moving the goalposts, whether it's mandates, no fly lists, as he appears to endorse, I think the heart of the issue is that they don't ever want this pandemic to end because on the other side of this pandemic, when all this craziness is over, then comes accountability. | ||
| Then comes the investigations, frankly, what should be criminal investigations into the conduct, not just starting in 2019, but going all the way back to the early 2000s when the NIH was spearheading and pursuing collaboration with Chinese military-linked labs on gain-of-function research, which we now know, whether it's from FOIA emails, our reporting at the National Polls, did indeed occur at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, all the way through 2014 when that multimillion-dollar taxpayer-backed grant | ||
| was funding research again at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. | ||
| But that's why these people keep wanting to kind of change the metrics for what exactly successes in the pandemic. | ||
| So now it's, you know, we need 110 percent of people to be vaccinated, and you need three vaccines. | ||
| And believe me, by the time the midterms come around, I'm sure you'll need a fourth vaccine, and the Democrats want, you know, probably the midterm variant to come about so they can ensure mail-in voting and secure another fix for the 2022 midterms. | ||
| So I think everything that you're seeing on the screen right now, it's all about politics, it's all about power, and that's what it always has been. | ||
| Jack Posobiec. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Steve, you've got Tony Blinken's testimony comes up at 2 p.m. | ||
| Eastern today, right, on Afghanistan. | ||
| Everything they're doing now with pushing these new vaccine mandates, they're pushing a new form of discrimination, by the way, medical tyranny in this country, where they're saying this pandemic is not the fault of the CCP and everything that went on in Wuhan with humanized mice No, no, it's your fault if you haven't got the vaccination yet. | ||
| That's what Joe Biden came out and said. | ||
| And he's doing all of this because the White House is governing based on opinion polls. | ||
| They know they've completely lost independence and a huge chunk of Democrats because of Afghanistan. | ||
| You're going to hear Tony Blinken, right? | ||
| He might be left holding the bag on that today. | ||
| There's a report that I broke earlier today talking about a possible tape that Republicans have of Tony Blinken. | ||
| Over there in the East Hamptons making some interesting comments about a senior member of the Biden administration. | ||
| Emphasis on the word senior, by the way, if you know what I'm saying. | ||
| And what Fauci now is doing is they've empowered him. | ||
| They're letting him off the leash now more and more so that he can impose his medical edicts rather than actually talk to people. | ||
| He's talking about flights. | ||
| He's talking about school children. | ||
| People aren't talking about the MMR with this, right? | ||
| They're talking about this new vaccine. | ||
| That's the issue. | ||
| And he's saying, oh, don't worry about the VAERS database. | ||
| Look, I talked to a scientist who actually is in Big Pharma this weekend. | ||
| They were saying, of course we use the VAERS database. | ||
| What else would we use, right? | ||
| What else would we look at? | ||
| Of course we track this stuff over time. | ||
| We have to. | ||
| That's law. | ||
| So he's obfuscating completely. | ||
| He's not even making sense up there. | ||
| That's what people can sense. | ||
| And that's why you have so many people in the military. | ||
| Steve, after mass this Sunday, I had active duty members of the US military coming up to me and saying, Jack, we don't know what to do. | ||
| We can't get our religious exemptions. | ||
| They said they're going to the chaplain because that's the first stage in the chain to get a religious exemption if you're military. | ||
| They said the chaplains have been instructed to try to talk them out of getting a religious exemption. | ||
| and actually just go ahead and drop it drop their entire report on that and go ahead and get the vaccination but they're pulling you off mission and then there's even talk about going article article 92 of UCMJ failure to follow orders that's what they're imposing on US military for simply raising a flag about this thing Let me, before we go to break, let me just make sure. | ||
| Are you saying that the vaccines are to distract attention, that doubling of the vaccines are the Afghanistan, away from the Afghanistan? | ||
| Or is Afghanistan and other things distract from the vaccines? | ||
| Because vaccines, it seems to me, they've so overwhelmingly made this bet and they're getting more aggressive. | ||
| Look, as Boris Johnson, the UK pulls off all Vaccine mandates. | ||
| And people can tell you right now the UK's up and running. | ||
| London's packed. | ||
| The restaurants are packed. | ||
| People not wearing masks. | ||
| They're out about their lives. | ||
| The city of London's back like Wall Street used to be. | ||
| But we're going the exact opposite direction, doubling down. | ||
| Are they trying to use Afghanistan to distract from that? | ||
| Or are they using vaccines to distract from all their other failures? | ||
| Does science change when you go across the Atlantic? | ||
| Is there a different science in the UK than there is in the United States? | ||
| Because it seems very strange to me that their leading experts would be doing the exact opposite in terms of their policymakers when it comes to Boris Johnson. | ||
| No. | ||
| Like I said, this is exactly the analysis and that UK story actually proves it. | ||
| They are using all of this, they're letting Fauci off the chain, as a way to distract from the failures of Afghanistan. | ||
| Who, by the way, the British and the French, you talk to them, they'll tell you exactly what went wrong with Afghanistan as well. | ||
| It wasn't them, it was the Americans. | ||
| And Tony Blinken, you sir, are the one holding the bag today. | ||
| I'm not so sure the House is going to be as intense as the Senate. | ||
| I think the Senate tomorrow is where you're going to have the pipers come in, but we'll talk about that on the other side of the break. | ||
| I also believe they're trying to take attention away from this massive spending bill that's coming unwound, even as we speak. | ||
| That's the way they're going to transform America. | ||
| The vaccines are part, but the spending permanently transforms it. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return. | ||
| We've got Natalie Winters on her last day here. | ||
| We've got Jack Basobic launching his new show. | ||
| We've got so much more to get through in the War Room. | ||
| Try to get Dr. Lamone from Rome to wrap up. | ||
| We're going to be back in the war room in just a second. | ||
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War room, pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
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| So the governor can try to go to the gates of hell, but in fact, legal experts tell me that the president is in a pretty solid legal ground. | ||
| He is citing the law that established OSHA. | ||
| So you know that if you have a factory, let's say, where you're exposing people to toxic fumes and it's going to kill them, OSHA can come in and give you a citation. | ||
| And they can give you a, you know, if you are really a severe violator, they can take you to court. | ||
| So the Biden administration is making the same case that this is a threat to workplace safety. | ||
| And that's the ground that this law or this mandate will be fought on. | ||
| A lot of Republican governors are screaming about it's unconstitutional, it's this or that. | ||
| It's really a case of federal law and experts say Biden has the authority in federal law to do exactly what he did. | ||
| New York Times reporter covering health policy, Sheryl Gay Stolberg. | ||
| Thank you very much for coming on the show this morning. | ||
| I'm puzzled by these people who continue to say they're forced to get vaccinated here. | ||
| There's always been a choice. | ||
| If you do not want to get vaccinated, You can work from home. | ||
| You can homeschool your children. | ||
| You can shop online. | ||
| So where is this coming from? | ||
| People saying, I'm now being forced to be vaccinated. | ||
| We never forced vaccinations on kids in school. | ||
| If you didn't want to vaccinate your kids, you could homeschool them. | ||
| And people have done it for years. | ||
| You're exactly right. | ||
| Nobody's being forced. | ||
| In fact, if you don't get vaccinated, you just have to get tested on a weekly basis. | ||
| But the reality is, the science is crystal clear on this. | ||
| Get vaccinated. | ||
| These vaccines are incredibly effective. | ||
| They're effective. | ||
| They are free. | ||
| They work. | ||
| And we just, it's unacceptable. | ||
| It is unacceptable now that people aren't getting vaccinated. | ||
| We need our kids in schools. | ||
| We need the schools open. | ||
| We need people to get back to work. | ||
| We need people flying on airplanes. | ||
| We need people in restaurants. | ||
| We have too many Americans still out of work. | ||
| And this is a simple, effective, A shot in the arm, if you will, that our economy needs and there's no reason not to get vaccinated at this point in time. | ||
| That being said, you're not being forced. | ||
| You can work from home. | ||
| You can get tested on a weekly basis. | ||
| So I just think this is just smart public policy and great leadership by the president. | ||
| It's medical apartheid. | ||
| I think that's what it is. | ||
| And they're selling hard right now. | ||
| Some people make... And by the way, that's not what Fauci says we're going. | ||
| Fauci says we shouldn't have the tests for the companies. | ||
| That shouldn't be an alternative. | ||
| And who knows if you can work from home? | ||
| You may get laid off. | ||
| They may say, hey, you have to come to the office. | ||
| So this is just, they're selling this too hard. | ||
| It's got to be about informed consent. | ||
| If you want to take the vaccine, it's absolutely your right to take the vaccine. | ||
| And look, if you're a citizen, you're making an informed decision, make that decision. | ||
| But you should have the other alternatives and that's what we're going to make sure that the doctors can put forth the evidence and the facts. | ||
| And I just think in the last segment you saw Tony Fauci sits there on this major report out of Israel. | ||
| It looks like he has not contacted those guys and talked him through about this thing about about natural immunity. | ||
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| I want to come back to Natalie. | ||
| Here's the other thing, Natalie. | ||
| I gotta bring this up. | ||
| The Daily Mail over the weekend had this massive lead story about Lancet Magazine and the 26 guys that wrote the thing that actually got us to this place today. | ||
| And it turns out they all work for the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And I'm sitting there going, I'm looking for the reference to Natalie Winters. | ||
| Did you not write and break that story a year ago? | ||
| How long ago did you break that story? | ||
| And they didn't even give you a link to the National Pulse, Natalie Winters. | ||
| I think it was probably over a year ago that we've been digging into all the various signatories on that Lancet letter. | ||
| Of course, the infamous Peter Dalschack is kind of the ringleader of that whole statement. | ||
| You know, emails that were released via FOIA show that he kind of orchestrated that whole statement. | ||
| But I think what we've seen throughout this whole pandemic is that we kind of operate in a world of Lancet statements in the sense that Everybody who's, you know, pumped out on the mainstream media airwaves, they're representing another interest other than their own. | ||
| Nine times out of ten, it seems to be the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And those people that you just played, I mean, they are absolute tyrants telling us what to do with our bodies. | ||
| And it's also really interesting to me because anytime any of these, you know, so-called experts, again the same experts that thought it was a good idea to fund the Wuhan Institute of Virology, they never actually convince us or tell us about the science behind these shots, they just say you need to get vaccinated, right? They spend all this money on teenage influencers to tell you to get the vaccine, when in reality, I don't know, I've never seen a compelling scientific case necessarily. | ||
| And I think too, just juxtapose how they treat unvaccinated people with kind of how they treat the Chinese Communist Party with regards to getting to the bottom of COVID-19. Imagine if they said, hey, you know what, Chinese Communist Party, your money, your people, your party members, your investments, your companies are not allowed in this country, not allowed in the stock markets. We don't want your money buying up American real estate. We're going to mandate that that's not allowed here of COVID-19. Imagine if they said, hey, you know what, Chinese Communist Party, your money, your people, your party members, your investments, your companies are not allowed in this country, not allowed in the stock markets. We don't want your money buying up American real estate. | ||
| We're going to mandate that that's not allowed here until you actually show us the data, release the 16,000 deleted samples from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. But there's no appetite to do that. Instead, they want to go after people who don't want to get the vaccine because it's part of their broader agenda to really, I think, root out any free thinking Americans, often Trump supporter types, America first types, really from society as a whole. | ||
| Just like if you remember, Charlie Munger said what China did was right about Jack Ma. | ||
| That's what they're doing here. Natalie, real quickly, you come from a medical family, Dr. and Mrs. Winters. | ||
| Your parents, by the way, did a great job in raising you, but they're also, your father was one of the first guests we had on here about the capacity of IC. | ||
| He knew so much about this pandemic when it was started, just an incredibly serious guy. | ||
| I just got to ask you, and because one thing everybody appreciates, your evidence base, your database, you drill down into the facts, that's why you're reporting so good, that's why the Daily Mail can rip you off, right, and sound like they're authoritative. | ||
| Have you had, as a young person that is very data oriented, are you telling our audience that they have not made the case to you yet to convince you to get this vaccine on the data and the evidence? | ||
| To me, the takeaway is that anytime I see some, you know, appeal to authority or some, you know, Biden regime member or scientific official up there convincing people to get the vaccine, it's never using data or numbers or the efficacy of the vaccine. | ||
| Also, the fact that you still have to wear a mask, even if you get it, kind of looms over the whole thing. | ||
| But it's more so just shaming you into getting the vaccine. | ||
| And I think when it's that emotion-based argument as opposed to and appeal to logic and data and numbers and rationality, that's where I think it kind of fits in to frankly my broader suspicions about what this vaccine is being used for, which is that it's about power and wanting to compel and coerce people into doing something they otherwise would not do, as opposed to really reaching herd immunity, which again is a number that we've never really gotten an actual figure for. The goalposts keep | ||
| moving. So I just don't think it's grounded in facts and in science, especially when you're talking about a scientific establishment whose credibility is already so razor thin, given the fact that they've been sending taxpayer dollars to boost China's military. | ||
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| Yeah, so, Natalie, we're also seeing, by the way, that so many of these institutions, workplaces, the military, you're going back to school, right? | ||
| These universities, they're all calling for this to be shot down as a mandate. | ||
| They're not saying, by the way, and you've got people like David Frum out there, I saw his Twitter feed and he was saying, oh, well, we're not mandating this, but look at how many people are complying. | ||
| Look how many people are complying when we threaten them with taking their jobs away, taking their livelihoods away, their ability to feed their families, the ability to keep a roof over their heads, their ability to actually put food on the table, right? | ||
| That's not encouragement. | ||
| That's coercion, right? | ||
| That's the same type of coercion that the CCP would use. | ||
| That's what Charlie Munger, you just mentioned, was talking about when he said, oh, I wish we could have more of their system. | ||
| And I've talked about this before, I've written about this at Human Events, where we say it is the axis of the elites, the 1%, the US 1%, and the CCP, 1% of the Chinese population, because we didn't make them become more open and more transparent, they made us become more authoritarian. | ||
| Now you're seeing the authoritarianism from the highest government offices. | ||
| This is a key point. | ||
| This came off of Natalie Winter's reporting and analysis and then Jack came up with the concept. | ||
| We used to have this thing for the anti-CCP, for our audience that understands our anti-CCP take, about elite capture. | ||
| What they captured the elites in Australia and UK and the United States. | ||
| Jack Posobiec's theory of the case now is actually elite merger. | ||
| It's much different. | ||
| It's elite merger and you're absolutely on that new construct. | ||
| And by the way, in the next couple of days, we're going to get into some real reporting. | ||
| Jack Posobiec is the first guy to bring up here a week or so ago. | ||
| The financial meltdown of China has started the CCP. | ||
| The financial meltdown. | ||
| They're having their Lehman Brothers moment. | ||
| I've got me and Cortez have a text. | ||
| Me and Cortez have a text thread going about this now back and forth. | ||
| So because I know that's really more his wheelhouse. | ||
| But I started getting I started getting basically pinged by my people in the financial world, the hedge funders, people saying, Jack, look, we know that a lot of people have been talking about this Chinese debt bubble for so long, for so many years. | ||
| We know that the growth of the CCP was debt finance, this massive growth, expansive, exponential growth of the Chinese GDP. | ||
| Remember, 8% year-on-year, 8% year-on-year. | ||
| We kept saying again and again and again. | ||
| Every year, every year. | ||
| And I look at this coming back from someone who spent time in China. | ||
| I said, these are ghost cities. | ||
| They build towers. | ||
| Nobody's in them. | ||
| And then you got a crew that's coming by to paint the tower 10 times a year, right? | ||
| It's the same tower. | ||
| Nobody's living in it. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because it's jobs. | ||
| It's GDP. | ||
| Who's financing it? | ||
| We're financing it. | ||
| It's all debt finance, but it doesn't go anywhere. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| And so at some point, the growth doesn't catch, or I should say that real growth doesn't catch up with the spending. | ||
| And then you have to pay the piper. | ||
| But here's the buried lead. | ||
| It's the Law of Unintended Consequences. | ||
| It goes back to the biological weapons lab at Wuhan. | ||
| Basically, the virus has destroyed the supply chains. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| The reason we're having this massive inflation right now, you had, was it Rick Rider on Bloomberg TV, the CIO of BlackRock, right? | ||
| It's not our favorite, but he's a smart guy, putting money to work. | ||
| It's talking about the inflation from the supply chains. | ||
| The supply chains in China are shattered. | ||
| The reason they're shattered, and you're seeing Mitsubishi and these companies move out as fast as they can, because they understand, and now she's being so lawless of shutting down the tech companies and just crushing the American investors' capital. | ||
| But the problem is the CCP is making a bold move. | ||
| Go ahead, sir. | ||
| But it gets back to the Wuhan lab, it gets back to the bio lab. | ||
| Well, and I want to give credit where it's due, because Cortez, he texted me this morning, Blackstone just... remember the last time we talked about Blackstone when it was China, they were talking about tripling their investments in China. | ||
| Now listen to this. | ||
| Blackstone scraps $3 billion Soho China acquisition offer. | ||
| Soho China just plummeted 40% after Blackstone takeover falls apart. | ||
| They can see the bearish signs ahead for China. | ||
| Evergrande, ladies and gentlemen, has $300 billion. | ||
| Now here's where it gets interesting. | ||
| We'll start playing these tapes tomorrow when we have time. | ||
| It's the Lao-Bai Jing. | ||
| You know, our allies in China, old hundred names, have these savings. | ||
| These savings are being wiped out. | ||
| It's the little guy that's going to get crushed first. | ||
| And you're seeing these people show up at these banks and at these real estate companies going, you're taking, this is blood money, you've got to give me my money back. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You're wiping me out, and they're having riots right now outside this. | ||
| This is a major geopolitical... It comes back to the Wuhan lab, and it comes back to this elite merger, right? | ||
| The two elites, both in the West and the CCP, and now it's all starting to come unraveled. | ||
| The debt implosion in China is enormous. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short break. | ||
| We're going to come back. | ||
| We've got more of Natalie Winters' story that's going to go up on National Pulse on her last day at the office. | ||
| And of course, Jack Passova, we're going to talk about his new podcast that's going to launch this afternoon in conjunction with the great team of Charlie Kirk and the folks over at Turning Point. | ||
| We're going to be back in just a moment. | ||
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| Natalie, talk to us about you getting ready to publish on your last day here, a big story. | ||
| I know the editorial team at National Pulse, Raheem with the new redesigns, working on this. | ||
| Tell us about the story. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta check out the new redesign. | ||
| It's great, very formal-looking. | ||
| But the story that we have coming out, people may recall the grant that a lot of those Intercept FOIA documents related to. | ||
| Again, it was from 2014, the Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence. | ||
| There are about 30 studies produced under that grant, and one of them I dug into, and it turns out that the source of Basically, a certain type of human blood that they were using to perform, quote, recombination analysis, which is basically a form of gain-of-function research, was actually a Chinese state-run university that is under control of the PLA and is described on its own website as, quote, an arm of the PLA. | ||
| So, again, another undeniable link between the Chinese military and research that was being funded by Anthony Fauci. | ||
| How can they still deny that? | ||
| I mean, how can they sit there so blatantly and deny this given all the evidence you've put forward that's out there and you've dug down and pulled together? | ||
| Natalie, how can they sit there? | ||
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| I genuinely don't know, but I think it goes to what we were talking about in the last break, which is this idea of elite merger, because I frankly, I don't think that they think or know that they're doing anything wrong, right? | ||
| Because to them, the Chinese Communist Party is kind of a role model of authoritarianism that they want to kind of implant over here in the United States. | ||
| What's wrong about funding research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology? | ||
| They're not going to admit to it. | ||
| You know, it seems once every couple of months the mainstream media gets a little woke on the lab leak theory, but then overnight they seem to forget it. | ||
| So I don't think anyone's going to hold them to account except, of course, the National Pulse and other outlets like Human Events and War Room. | ||
| Steve, before we... Yeah, go ahead, sir. | ||
| I've got breaking news here. | ||
| Breaking news, a new statement from Huanqiu Shibao, the Global Times in China, and I think this really wraps up everything that we've been talking about for the past couple weeks here. | ||
| New editorial from the Global Times. | ||
| Let us be fully prepared that there will be a showdown in the Taiwan Straits. | ||
| This just posted five minutes ago. | ||
| Let us send our first PLA fighter jet over the island of Taiwan at the most accurate time. | ||
| That will be a milestone on China's path to reunification. | ||
| So the PLA is announcing that they will be sending fighter jets Look, look, real quickly, the Global Times is the tabloid, but that's the official party line, like the People's Daily is. | ||
| They smell weakness. | ||
| They see that the United States is collapsing as a major power, Jack, and this is why they're pushing it. | ||
| They understand what Natalie's reporting is. | ||
| We can't even stand up and admit they had a bioweapons program. | ||
| Here, our elites can't do it on Capitol Hill. | ||
| The media can't do it. | ||
| They understand we're weak. | ||
| Our leadership is weak right now. | ||
| Blinken is weak. | ||
| Jake Sullivan, of course, Biden, nobody knows. | ||
| That, we said, if we don't stop this now, if you don't confront them, it's going to lead to a kinetic war in the South China Sea or the Taiwan. | ||
| And right there, they're telling you what's happening. | ||
| Remember yesterday, didn't they tell us to shut up? | ||
| Didn't the ambassador tell us to shut up? | ||
| You got the story about being shut up, right? | ||
| Steve, this also talks about what we were just saying, right? | ||
| Xi Jinping knows there's protests going on at these banks. | ||
| He knows the people are upset with him. | ||
| This is his way. | ||
| He's feeling a little bit threatened, so it's a distraction where they can say, you know what? | ||
| We're going to send fighter sorties across Taiwan. | ||
| Then the question is, how does Taiwan respond? | ||
| Will it escalate? | ||
| Will the U.S. | ||
| escalate? | ||
| These are exactly the issues that we all started talking about when this thing hit off. | ||
| Taiwan is Silicon Valley West. | ||
| If you think you've got a late delivery of your refrigerator or your F-100 pickup truck because there's no chips, you haven't seen anything. | ||
| Our economy cannot survive without a free Taiwan right now. | ||
| Whatever you think about our moral obligations to the Chinese people in Taiwan and to freedom and democracy, this is not Hong Kong. | ||
| Hong Kong is very important. | ||
| Taiwan is vital to the American economy. | ||
| People have to understand this. | ||
| And they understand to take care of the domestic implosion, this is what they're going to do. | ||
| Jack, tell us quickly about the new show. | ||
| What can people expect? | ||
| How do they get to it? | ||
| Well, Steve, thank you very much. | ||
| I appreciate the ability to kind of do a little promo for it here. | ||
| You know, we've got up on my Twitter a couple just clips that we did from rehearsal shows, and we just pre-taped the one that's going to air. | ||
| It's going to be this afternoon. | ||
| It'll be out everywhere. | ||
| Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Rumble, YouTube. | ||
| I'm going to blast it out when it launches. | ||
| So it's part of Turning Point Live, which is a larger Three hour block that's going to go off in the evenings, and it's just going to be throughout the entire internet until they take us down. | ||
| Today's first episode, I am going hard on Bush, on Fauci, Blinken, Biden, everything that's going on with this. | ||
| We're going to talk about these reports of a Blinken tape that came out from a donor meeting, sort of a dinner that was going on. | ||
| in the East Hamptons. We know that he was out there the weekend that Kabul fell. | ||
| So we're gonna have more information on that. And this is really gonna be, and by the way, it's not two hours, it's not four hours, it's 30 minutes. | ||
| Right? It's kind of a micro newscast where you get in, you get out, you get your hard, you know, your high-impact analysis and then you get done. | ||
| You listen to Double Speed. | ||
| I listen to, when I'm not on War Room, I listen to War Room with Double Speed. | ||
| Triple Speed. | ||
| I would do Triple Speed if they had it. | ||
| On Spotify they have it. | ||
| On Spotify? | ||
| I don't listen to Spotify. | ||
| I have to get that. | ||
| Unfortunately we're banned. | ||
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| So what I do though is boom now you got an hour that's 30 minutes you got two hours that's one hour right so you really crunch it in and that's how I get all my podcasts on this. | ||
| I know people have a lot of podcasts out there. | ||
| Look I'm asking for 15 minutes of your time. | ||
| No, and Jack Pasovic, you're unique. | ||
| Mentored by Charlie Kirk, mentored by Steve Bannon, and the great Tim Pool. | ||
| You ought to be ready now for your close-up, Pasovic. | ||
| Natalie, we've got about a minute. | ||
| You're not going to leave us, though, spiritually. | ||
| You're still going to be working every day? | ||
| Never. | ||
| One of my favorite quotes was one that I first heard from you, Steve, and you said, when you set out to take Vienna, take Vienna. | ||
| So when you set out to take down the Chinese Communist Party, take down the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| I can't let you mention Vienna without mentioning that it is the 330th anniversary of the Wing and Hussars' defense of Vienna. | ||
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| Natalie, next year Beijing. | ||
| Natalie Winters, follow her on Getter, follow her on Twitter. | ||
| What's your social media handles before we go to Pacific, Natalie? | ||
| Natalie G. Winters on Twitter, Getter, and Instagram, and then Natalie Winters on Facebook. | ||
| You're a very special young woman. | ||
| Don't ever change. | ||
| Jack Vosobic, how do people get to you and follow you during the day? | ||
| Follow me across Gaterham, everywhere. | ||
| Natalie, best of luck. | ||
| We all love you around here. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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| Likewise. | ||
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