Sept. 13, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | |
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | |
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, and the worst happens... War Room Pandemic. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Okay, welcome to War Room Pandemic. | ||
| It is Monday. | ||
| This is the 13th of September, the year of Aurora 2021. | ||
| We have a very special program today. | ||
| I want to bring in immediately from Rome, Dr. Robert Malone, who's been good enough to do a number of specials with us. | ||
| But because of the vaccine mandates that came out last week from Joe Biden and his administration, there's been a meeting down in Puerto Rico that he wants to talk about putting together of a new group called the Pandemic Health Alliance, a coordination of doctors, a manifesto, all that. | ||
| We got a number of top physicians on the show today. | ||
| I want to toss it. | ||
| Dr. Malone, walk us through exactly what you're putting together here and who our participants are in this special announcement today. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Hi Steve, thanks a lot. | ||
| I'm here as the president of the Pandemic Health Alliance now. | ||
| Pandemic Health Alliance is a group of frontline physicians and scientists that have been leading treatment, particularly with an emphasis on early treatment during this outbreak. | ||
| Uh, the colleagues that are here from the Pandemic Health Alliance include Heather Gessling. | ||
| She's a family medicine physician and former chief of staff at a community hospital that was recently asked to step down due to concerns about the vaccine. | ||
| She's treated approximately 1500 COVID positive patients with no deaths since the beginning of the pandemic. | ||
| Uh, she's, uh, the medical director of the Pandemic Health Alliance. | ||
| In addition, we have Dr. Ryan Cole, Director of Research for Pandemic Health Alliance. | ||
| Ryan is known to much of your audience as a very active practicing pathologist. | ||
| He's triple board certified, Mayo trained, and has been really leading the information about the health of people and the potential adverse events associated with vaccine. | ||
| We're here to focus not on the vaccine, But rather on the consensus that we've developed during a recent group meeting at Puerto Rico and San Paolo, where we came together last week as a group and developed a statement that Heather would like to discuss concerning the freedom of physicians to practice. | ||
| Okay, hold on. | ||
| That was in San Juan, correct? | ||
| No, it was in San Juan, Puerto Rico. | ||
| The meeting was last week. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| San Juan, Puerto Rico. | ||
| Approximately how many physicians came together for this meeting? | ||
| About 15 of the leading physicians in frontline care in the United States. | ||
| So, 15 physicians, top physicians in frontline care. | ||
| Talk to us about what was discussed, debated, and what program did you guys come up with? | ||
| So, what we focused on was the development of a consensus statement for physicians across the United States concerning right to practice, as we discussed previously on your show. | ||
| Right now, docs are being prevented from Providing early treatment and they're being blocked even at the pharmacy level from being able to get prescriptions filled by patients. | ||
| So we're in a position where the government has seized control of the medical profession. | ||
| And this is death. | ||
| We believe we've got a no choice but to defend the medical practice and the rights of physicians to practice. | ||
| And we've developed this declaration based on that, with a particular focus on early treatment. | ||
| So walk us through what this, I think you've got a manifesto, you've got a bunch of statements you want to go through, make sure the public understands, so walk us through what you've got. | ||
| Heather, you want to take the floor? | ||
| You bet. | ||
| Thanks for having us on your show. | ||
| And what we have is a declaration of physician independence. | ||
| Physician-patient relationships are being altered because of the barriers that are in place, put in place by government entities, put in place by pharmacies, put in place by our employers. | ||
| And we've created this document that we'd like to read portions of. | ||
| To your audience. | ||
| It will be circulated and sent out to physicians and scientists to sign and declare our independence, declare the ability for physician-patient relationships to exist as they always have existed without interference. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| By the way, we're going to put it all up in the live chat. | ||
| We'll be force multipliers and getting this out everywhere. | ||
| So go ahead and walk us through this document. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| We physicians, united and loyal to the Hippocratic Oath, and scientists who understand the nuances of biomedical research practices, Insist upon a return to the very heart of medicine, the physician-patient relationship. | ||
| These relationships allow physicians to best understand their patients and illnesses and to formulate treatments that offer the best chance for success while allowing the patient to be an active participant. | ||
| It is our utmost duty and responsibility to uphold the dignity and integrity of this relationship and defend it at all costs. | ||
| What we are experiencing in this country is not science-based medicine. | ||
| It is not care. | ||
| Reckless and careless policies being implemented on us constitute premeditated crimes against humanity. | ||
| The profession of medicine and science as we know them are at a crossroad. We... | ||
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We're having a slight technical problem. | |
| Can we? | ||
| Go ahead, Heather. | ||
| We had a slight technical problem. | ||
| Could you just back it up about a minute and keep going? | ||
| You bet. | ||
| The profession of medicine and science as we know them are at a crossroad. | ||
| We are experiencing unprecedented and intentional assaults on our ability to care for our patients. | ||
| Physicians must have the freedom to practice the art and science of medicine without fear of retribution, censorship, slander, or disciplinary action, which now includes the possibility of losing licensure, hospital privileges, and insurance on top of interference from government entities and organizations, which all distract and threaten our focus on saving lives. | ||
| And additionally, in contrast to the European nations, Patients are losing access to their own doctors because of an absurd requirement that healthcare workers already recovered from the virus and carrying natural immunity are being prevented from caring for their patients unless they agree to vaccines. | ||
| And more alarmingly, recent unfounded restrictions preventing physicians from prescribing safe, proven, and effective treatments are without question Sentencing high-risk patients to death. | ||
| And for the first time in American history, orchestrated barriers are preventing physicians from engaging in open, professional discourse and exchange of ideas about new and emerging diseases and how to treat them. | ||
| And this not only endangers the essence of the medical profession, but more importantly, and more tragically, the lives of our patients. | ||
| And so what we want to say is utilizing our knowledge and epidemiology and pathophysiology and pharmacology and the knowledge of our patient, we physicians and scientists strive to come up with the best plan of prevention and treatment for each unique patient, often relying on a trial and error approach while avoiding harm to the patient. | ||
| Patients demand that we never watch and wait when potentially effective therapies are available. | ||
| And with this time-honored approach, treating physicians have always been the first to identify treatments that work. | ||
| And this has particularly been the case with COVID-19. | ||
| Honestly, we've never experienced anything like this. | ||
| And I'm not reading from the document at this point, but in my practice, never have I been told How I am supposed to treat my patients, how I'm supposed to treat any particular disease. | ||
| Every single patient is different and I utilize my knowledge. | ||
| I utilize known research and I utilize the patient's own needs to determine that treatment plan. | ||
| And this has worked spectacularly for the last 11 years of my practice. | ||
| And now we're being thrown these barriers and we stand up for our physician-patient relationships. | ||
| Okay, let me just ask a few questions here to make sure I understand. | ||
| When you say government entities, the American Medical Association are all parts of different professional societies, and then you work directly, you have employers that are in the medical business outside, or not say outside the purview, but kind of the first contacts you have before you have these government entities come in. | ||
| Aren't all the professional societies, American Medical Association, others, all basically falling in line for the kind of the one-size-fits-all vaccine for everybody mandates of the FDA and CDC? | ||
| In other words, your professional societies and who you guys traditionally organize with are not supportive of your concept of the doctor-patient relationship, correct? | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, they have not allowed for autonomy in how we treat our patients. | ||
| And they have dictated what we should focus on. | ||
| And there are many factors that influence the ability for a host to acquire infectious disease. | ||
| And one of them is nutrition. | ||
| And one of them is prior illnesses, such as prior COVID illness. | ||
| There are many things that influence the ability to treat a patient, and whenever we have these entities that are putting out statements that don't take into account all factors of care for the patient, then we are limited in our ability to implement their policies because we have to care for the patient first. | ||
| I'm I'm not arguing the merits of natural immunity or nutrition or therapeutics. | ||
| I'm just trying to get so people can understand there is a structure to the medical profession. | ||
| You have these professional associations, correct? | ||
| The AMA and others. | ||
| In your own and ones in your different areas of work, you then have the hospital relationships where you're employed. | ||
| Then you have the government certifying boards and have the governments. | ||
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So it has at the first level. | |
| Why have the medical societies? | ||
| It sounds like or maybe I'm missing this. | ||
| The medical societies have all said falling in line with one size fits all just vaccinate, correct? | ||
| So they're not supporting your position either, correct? | ||
| That's right, Steve. | ||
| The societies don't dictate our practice, typically. | ||
| Dr. Long, can you jump in here and we'll come back to Heather in a second? | ||
| Because we only got like a minute to go before we got to go to break. | ||
| Steve, we're in an unprecedented situation where the government has exerted pressure on the medical societies and the journals to block the ability of physicians to treat early and to treat effectively and essentially mandated that the only policy will be that patients are only treated once they are so severely ill that they have to be admitted into the hospital. | ||
| What we've found as a group of physicians is that, and many physicians have contributed to this, many, many thousands of patients have been saved by treating them early with existing drugs such as hydroxychloroquine that Peter championed, ivermectin, and there's many other agents. | ||
| We're being blocked from being able to treat patients early and effectively because of the policies promoted by the government. | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back with the Pandemic Health Alliance in a moment. | ||
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Stay tuned. | |
| Let the bullets fly a little longer. | ||
| We will have freedom to live we will win. | ||
| You'll surrender. | ||
| right now war room pandemic with stephen k banner the epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon | ||
| hide war room pandemic here's your host stephen k banner Okay, welcome back. | ||
| We've got Dr. Malone, who's been good enough to do a number of specials with us, and we have the Pandemic Health Alliance. | ||
| It's a new group that's been formed. | ||
| They had a meeting down in San Juan, Puerto Rico. | ||
| They're getting organized. | ||
| He's now in Rome at a series of very high-level and special meetings. | ||
| So I want to just go back, because I want to make sure everybody is kind of on the level playing field. | ||
| So I just want to reiterate, and Dr. Malone, maybe you take it this time, or Dr. Cole, Dr. Gessing. | ||
| You guys pick it, but there's professional organizations, there's employers, and there's government entities, licensing boards, all the way from the state level till you got FDA, CDC, you have a whole ecosystem of kind of the way we make sure that the medical profession has certain qualifications and certain things are done and they're okay. | ||
| Isn't it true? | ||
| That virtually at every level, all those guys are adamantly opposed, whether it's the AMA and professional societies of every different professional society, of all the major peer-reviewed journals, of now the employers at the hospitals, all the way up to the FDA and the CDC that kind of support this Forget about natural immunity. | ||
| Forget about therapeutics. | ||
| We don't want to hear it. | ||
| Maybe we don't believe it, but we don't want to hear it. | ||
| It's one size fits all vaccines. | ||
| Dr. Cole, let me start with you, and then we'll go to Dr. Gesling and Dr. Malone. | ||
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Thank you, Steve. | |
| Yeah, that's a really good point. | ||
| I think the challenge that we're facing is that, yes, these large organizations are kind of in lockstep with each other. | ||
| However, They don't represent the opinion of the majority of physicians. | ||
| You know, the AMA only represents maybe 15 to 20 percent of American physicians. | ||
| The federal agencies are regulatory captured by Big Pharma. | ||
| We have thousands of physicians that, bless their hearts, they're working hard and they want to do things that they're not allowed by their systems to do. | ||
| Many of them have reached out for us to help their patients from within these systems because they're hamstrung, they're shackled. | ||
| It's Certainly a different scenario here in the U.S. | ||
| compared to the rest of the world, where there are early treatment societies in South Africa, in India, in Bulgaria, in Slovakia, in Belize, in countless nations that have had massive success with early treatments, and they're not hamstrung by these regulatory agencies in their nations, and they've had much, much more success than we've had here in saving lives and basically turning the pandemic off. | ||
| So, Yes, we're kind of a ragtag fugitive fleet trying to save the planet Earth, you know, going back to Battlestar Galactica days, but we're having phenomenal success, which, for whatever reason, the media, the government agencies don't want you to see that, because it's cheap, it's easy, it's the right thing, it's the ethical thing to be doing in the middle of a pandemic, and that's saving lives. | ||
| Screw money, you know, screw systems. | ||
| What we need to do is we need to save lives in whatever way we can, and we have phenomenal ways to do that that are being negated. We have informational flooding coming from these agencies and propagandistic stuff coming from different media outlets trying to diminish and demean basic science. And this basic science and these basic simple things are incredibly life-saving. You know, you look at the data of Dr. McCullough, | ||
| etc. Go ahead. | ||
| Let me just ask you on, I want to go, you said the majority of physicians support you. | ||
| How do you point besides anecdotal? | ||
| A lot of people reaching out to you. | ||
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How do you, how do you? | |
| No, I don't. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I mean, I may have misspoke majority, but there's a good percentage of these individuals and, and, you know, Heather can attest to this as well. | ||
| Having worked in our hospital system, there's a handful that do hold the upper positions. | ||
| They have very strong financial ties to Medicare and Medicaid codes for using only certain drugs, you know, like remdesivir. | ||
| They'll get a 20% bonus with a remdesivir code, you know, for giving that medicine. | ||
| So, they're incentivized not to do early treatments. | ||
| There are some of the upper-level clinicians in these groups that don't support us, but, you know, at the grassroots level, I couldn't give you an exact number, but I know how many have called me and reached out from these big systems saying, keep doing what you're doing, we want to be able to do it, but they're worried about losing their gainful employment. | ||
| It's the independent physicians, it's the smaller groups that are able to do it. | ||
| Let me go. | ||
| You said also, Dr. Malone, why don't you take this one? | ||
| Dr. Coles said there's been phenomenal success. | ||
| And I think that gets down to what the problem here is, is that walk us through what the phenomenal success is from the therapeutics and the different aspects of that versus the vaccine. | ||
| And I realize you're one of the founders and inventors of messenger RNA. | ||
| So just take Dr. Coles. | ||
| There's been phenomenal success. | ||
| How do you back that up? | ||
| There's been phenomenal success of what the Physicians Health Alliance is promoting versus what Fauci, the FDA, Joe Biden, and basically the infrastructure of our healthcare systems talking about one size fits all vaccines. | ||
| So what's interesting about this group, the Physicians Health Alliance, is it represents a small collection of physicians that have been at the very front line of deploying early treatments using existing drugs. | ||
| These include hydroxychloroquine, Uh, ivermectin and many other agents, and administering them at proper therapeutic levels early in infection. | ||
| For whatever reason, it's hard to make any sense out of it. | ||
| The government has decided and reinforced the policy that those people that develop this disease come to the hospital, they're tested for their blood oxygen levels, and they're sent home to Uh, get worse and only come back if they have very severe blood oxygen levels rather than treating them early. | ||
| There's a cluster of physicians that have accumulated case series of tens of thousands of patients with very, very few deaths by intervening early in the United States. | ||
| In addition, these same strategies are being deployed all over the world, particularly in the emerging economy nations where they don't have the option to have access to vaccine. | ||
| I'm confused. | ||
| Many people are confused by the government's position, reinforced through all of its channels that it has available, such as Medicare, Medicaid, that there will be no early treatment administered. | ||
| And yet what this group has observed with thousands and thousands of patients is far less than 1% mortality. | ||
| By administering therapeutic agents early, including hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. | ||
| What we saw was the government, for instance, just recently everybody saw this universal demeaning of ivermectin as a therapeutic because it's a horse-paced drug, which is patently absurd. | ||
| The agents that are being used in humans are the human ivermectin drug that's been administered to Millions to billions of people over the years. | ||
| Many, many doses that is safe at the levels being administered. | ||
| But what we've got with this group is the coming together and sharing of information and protocols and comparing patient recovery. | ||
| What we see is that we can save a lot of lives. | ||
| We're having A crisis of death and disease here in the United States and outcomes that are worse than most other developed nations because of this insistence, this blind insistence on only doing the vaccine. | ||
| We don't have to do this. | ||
| And this is what's happening here in Rome at the moment is physicians from all over the world are coming together and sharing their protocols so that we can develop a consensus protocol for the world. | ||
| But what we're seeing in the states is this crisis of death and disease in both vaccinated and unvaccinated. | ||
| It's completely unnecessary. | ||
| There are credible estimates that we have lost hundreds of thousands of lives unnecessarily by delaying treatment with existing agents. | ||
| And it's hard to understand what the justification is. | ||
| When in the history of medicine, Have we had a policy? | ||
| When somebody gets sick, comes to the hospital, we send them home with no interventions at all, or supportive care, and tell them to come back when they're really sick. | ||
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When in the rest of the world, we have agents that are working. | |
| We only have a few more minutes in this segment. | ||
| I'm going to come back when we get into the manifesto, and the alliance, and the meeting in San Juan, and all that. | ||
| But in the couple minutes I got left, With your logic, how did then Joe Biden stand up in front of the American nation and basically say, this is now a pandemic of the unvaccinated? | ||
| He's he's taken the if you have to go the spectrum, he's taken the exact opposite end of the spectrum. | ||
| That you've said no middle ground whatsoever. | ||
| He said this pandemic right now is a pandemic of the unvaccinated and we're going to do everything to basically as a forcing function to force you to get vaccinated including in a couple of weeks children five years old and older as they get this FDA temporary approval. | ||
| So in a couple of minutes to get two minutes. | ||
| Dr. Malone. | ||
| How do you answer that? | ||
| Why would the Joe Biden not triple down on the exact opposite thing? | ||
| You're saying works. | ||
| It makes no sense at all. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| You're asking me to speculate about the dynamics and politics that are going on between Dr. Fauci and Mr. Biden and the director of the CDC. | ||
| There's no underlying logic here other than a drive to universally vaccinate everyone. | ||
| It's not saving lives. | ||
| The vaccines aren't preventing death and disease. | ||
| The vaccinated are being infected. | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| We're gonna take a short commercial break. | ||
| I do want to say that Dr. Fauci came out after Joe Biden's speech, I think it was on Friday night or Saturday, and he said he thought Biden was going too soft. | ||
| He would not give an option for constant testing for employers. | ||
| He would actually mandate a Hard and fast mandate that said everybody had to get vaccinated and there would be no question. | ||
| So you're seeing two extreme examples here. | ||
| The Physicians Health Alliance arguing for early therapeutics, natural immunity, and that's a get to herd immunity. | ||
| And of course, the government and Joe Biden. | ||
| Now arguing it in the entire infrastructure of the medical profession saying, no, you got to get vaccinated and that this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. | ||
| So the pandemic now is basically with the followers of Dr. Malone and the Physicians Health Alliance. | ||
| So we're going to come back. | ||
| We're going to let the Physicians Health Alliance talk about the meetings in Puerto Rico, talk about this manifesto, their plan going forward. | ||
| Take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're back in the war room in just a moment. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| I will fight to the end, just watch and see. | ||
| It's all started, everything's begun, and you are over. | ||
| Because we're taking down the CCP. | ||
| Spread the word all through Hong Kong. | ||
| We will fight till they're all gone. | ||
| We rejoice when there is no more. | ||
| Let's take down the CCP. | ||
| They have all. | ||
| War Room, Pandemic, with Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| We've got Dr. Malone. | ||
| He is in Rome at a very important series of meetings about getting to the bottom of actually how you stay healthy in the era of the CCP virus, the COVID-19. | ||
| Dr. Malone's got two other physicians that have joined him on this new group they pulled together called the Pandemic Health Alliance. | ||
| Just had very important meetings in San Juan, Puerto Rico with about 15 or 20 top physicians, frontline physicians. | ||
| He's now organizing over in Europe. | ||
| Dr. Malone, the floor is yours, sir. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| I'd like to just mention something. | ||
| In the prior segment, we were talking about what's going on in the States versus what makes sense. | ||
| Here in Europe, for instance, the European Union and Italy recognizes that prior infection and recovery confers immunity that is equal to or superior to vaccines. | ||
| So if you want to get your green card here in Europe, You can prove prior vaccination or you can prove infection and recovery. | ||
| Those are both equivalent. | ||
| Throughout the world people are using ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, early treatment protocols. | ||
| It's in the United States that we have this Unique, exclusive emphasis on only vaccination with a concerted effort to block any other therapeutic strategy, including blocking pharmacies from even allowing drugs to be dispensed on get on physician prescription. | ||
| It's a, it's a unusual situation where we've had the state impose control on physicians and physician practices in an unprecedented manner. | ||
| That's costing American lives. | ||
| I'd like to move over to Dr. Cole, who's treated thousands and thousands of patients, as has Heather Gosling. | ||
| But Dr. Cole, can you explain to us what's going on with the treatments and treatment options, and what's going on with the disease currently in your practice? | ||
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Okay, so the disease is certainly spreading faster. | |
| Delta is a wildfire. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| The disease is a wildfire, and Delta will continue to spread fast. | ||
| But if we are willing to intervene with early treatments, we can stop it. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| So, like with Ivermectin, for example, look at Uttar Pradesh in northern India right now. | ||
| 240 million people, Delta burned through. | ||
| They did Ivermectin early. | ||
| Right now, as of the end of August, they had 23 new cases a day. | ||
| Look at America right now. | ||
| You know, one quarter of India's population, we have hundreds of thousands of cases per day. | ||
| They're using something cheap and easy. | ||
| Now, in my practice, of the patients I've treated, you know, from young age up to 90 years old, you know, half of those with comorbidities are the ones I've treated. | ||
| This is how many have gone to the hospital. | ||
| That many. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| Absolutely zero. | ||
| My colleague, Dr. Tyson, 6,000 patients if you treat early within the first week. | ||
| Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, budesonide, nebulized Colchicine, phenofibrate, androgen blockers. | ||
| There are so many in these protocols, you know. | ||
| Many of my colleagues have slight variations on these, but they tend to overlap. | ||
| And I know Dr. Malone will be working on that with the groups in Italy. | ||
| But one of my colleagues, 6,000 patients treated in day one to seven. | ||
| How many of his patients went to the hospital and died? | ||
| Zero. | ||
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So, you know, these are supposedly anecdotal case series. | |
| But in medicine, when you have a handful of cases, it becomes case reports in these big journals. | ||
| If we report these successes, we don't get them published, even if we try. | ||
| They don't want people to know that there's something cheap and easy to work our way out of this. | ||
| We don't have a pandemic of the unvaccinated. | ||
| We have a pandemic of undertreatment, under early treatment. | ||
| That's what we have a pandemic of, is a will to treat. | ||
| Let me jump in here so you all answer, but the Surgeon General of the United States just came out and stood and put out some report, or he took a report and forwarded, that said the biggest problem we have that led to the pandemic of the unvaccinated is a pandemic of misinformation. | ||
| So I just want you guys to address this because ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, well, I think you got to get on the table and I want you guys to address it because this is the way they're going to come at you and say, hey, these are all nice people, but it's just a font of misinformation. | ||
| It's a font of half-baked theories and they're leading us now into a situation Where the country can't get out of it. | ||
| Look, I'm a huge believer in natural immunity. | ||
| This is what Dr. Steven Hadfield taught us on the show from the very beginning. | ||
| I do find it interesting that the government doesn't want to talk about natural immunity anymore. | ||
| So it leads you to kind of question everything else. | ||
| But what is your answer about what you guys are doing is just the misinformation that they're saying is out there. | ||
| And that is that that pandemic has led to the pandemic of the unvaccinated. | ||
| Well, well, as doctors that are First line, front line physicians that are able to seek incredible success. | ||
| With the therapies that we have already tried and found to be working very well. | ||
| I personally feel like it's a pandemic of censorship. | ||
| We're censored. | ||
| We're shut down. | ||
| We can't get our message out. | ||
| We can't show people what's working. | ||
| And when we try to discuss it, the social media companies are taking our successes down. | ||
| The research is obviously biased. | ||
| Multiple retractions over the last year and a half. | ||
| We don't trust medicine. | ||
| Physicians don't trust the societies. | ||
| The patients don't trust the physicians anymore. | ||
| They're losing faith in the healthcare industry. | ||
| They're leaving traditional medicine and trying to seek out alternative therapies because they know that those therapies could potentially work, especially when they're given no therapies. | ||
| So I would say what we're experiencing is things that aren't rational. | ||
| They're not reasonable. | ||
| The physicians that are practicing and treating patients and experiencing all of these policies that prevent us and keep us from practicing as we see fit, we don't understand it. | ||
| We're trying to figure out why it's happening ourselves. | ||
| Dr. Malone, back to you. | ||
| I had to just jump in there because I want to make sure that we got that on the table. | ||
| You guys could have had opportunity to address it. | ||
| Much appreciated. | ||
| So what the Pandemic Health Alliance has done is bring together those that are out at the cutting edge at the front line that have pioneered these alternative therapies. | ||
| And the odd thing is it doesn't have to be either or. | ||
| This is not an anti-vaccine position. | ||
| This is a pro-health position. | ||
| This is intervene with patients, whether they're vaccinated or unvaccinated early, keep them out of the hospital. | ||
| There are thousands and thousands and thousands of cases treated with these protocols, including both vaccinated and unvaccinated patients with Delta. | ||
| For instance, one of the things that we found is that Delta is requiring more aggressive therapy. | ||
| Than the prior strains. | ||
| This has been pioneered out on the front line as is always the case by practicing physicians actively treating and learning from their patients and from the treatment experience. | ||
| So what we have here is this very odd situation where the government for some reason is insisting that we not practice medicine. | ||
| We not intervene with patients when they're before they ever get to the hospital. | ||
| And instead, just vaccinate them, hope for the best, and when they get really sick and have no other options, take them into the hospital and treat them with drugs like remdesivir that are both toxic and ineffective. | ||
| Doctor, talk to us about the San Juan meetings and talk to us about the manifesto because we can take this up to break and then go over. | ||
| I want to make sure everybody understands that you've pulled this group together. | ||
| You had a series of meetings in San Juan, Puerto Rico. | ||
| You're now in Rome to kind of spread the message of this. | ||
| Talk to us about what happened in San Juan and then how you're firing off the football to try to get this message out to a broad scope of practitioners here in the United States. | ||
| So what we've had is a situation where all the physicians in the United States have been placed under this incredible restriction in communicating with each other. | ||
| There's been a small number of pioneers that have have resisted this massive effort to control the practice of medicine and have pioneered these alternative treatments. | ||
| For instance, Pierre Khoury, who testified in the Senate regarding ivermectin. | ||
| We came together for the first time as a community down in Puerto Rico and had a day of meetings in which we discussed these treatment protocols, discussed what the successes are and the failures in treating patients, and then had a day of open discussion and development of this manifesto in which we are Advocating that physicians be allowed to practice medicine. | ||
| Just as we spoke on your show a few weeks ago. | ||
| Right now, docs are being blocked from using these early treatments. | ||
| It makes no sense at all. | ||
| So we're not saying necessarily don't vax. | ||
| We're not saying that these early treatments are a replacement for vaccination. | ||
| What we know is that both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated are ending up in the hospital in the United States, in Israel, in Great Britain. | ||
| The data are clear. | ||
| We need to have therapeutic strategies that keep people out of the hospital, keep them healthy in their homes. | ||
| As Tony Fauci himself said, convert this to something more like the common cold. | ||
| And when we all came together as a group of physicians and scientists and data analysts, What we found was common cause and common outcomes that aggressive early treatment with existing agents saves lives. | ||
| It keeps people from ever getting into the hospital and it's currently available. | ||
| There's no barriers to doing this. | ||
| There's no reason not to do it. | ||
| It's not vaccinate or drugs. | ||
| It's vaccinate and drugs. | ||
| We've got a couple minutes left in this segment. | ||
| We'll come back and get to the manifesto in a second, but I gotta ask you, Dr. Cole brings up a great example of India, what's happening. | ||
| What can the Physicians Health Alliance, I mean, isn't one of the things you have to do is take this, the reality as you see it on the ground, and start to get it into peer-reviewed journals to have some of the more prominent medical journalists start to talk about this? | ||
| Because right now, Part of, I think the problem is, is that you're kind of pushed off to the side. | ||
| And I think a lot of people are in the middle that really don't know much about the medical profession say, hey, if Dr. Kroll is right, if Dr. Malone is right, Dr. Gesling's right, and they can point to all this success, they can point to this, you know, he says, phenomenal success, I think is Dr. Kroll's quote. | ||
| How can that not get up into journals that have as their bylines, the ability to present the truth? | ||
| So I can speak to this. | ||
| We are being blocked, Steve. | ||
| It's taking nine months to a year or more to get anything published. | ||
| Pierre experienced this directly. | ||
| I've experienced it directly with multiple manuscripts. | ||
| The barriers to getting anything having to do with repurposed drugs are immense. | ||
| I created, together with two other physicians here in Italy, a whole special volume of Frontiers in Pharmacology focused on repurposed drugs. | ||
| And in the end, that was dropped from the journal. | ||
| They would not publish things, even though they had pre-approved the publication of this special volume. | ||
| Once we actually had the manuscripts, like Pierre's Ivermectin manuscript, and my famatidine and salicoxid manuscript that I developed with others under DoD funding, those were blocked. | ||
| Even after passing through peer review, the editors stepped in Blocked the publication and dropped the issue. | ||
| We're hearing this again and again and again across the world. | ||
| It's not that these papers aren't being written or these studies aren't being done. | ||
| They're not able to get published. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to turn. | ||
| It's the Physicians Health Alliance. | ||
| It's a group that's come together now. | ||
| Had a series of meetings in Puerto Rico. | ||
| They put out a manifesto. | ||
| They're organizing doctors here in the United States. | ||
| Dr. Malone has been over in Rome. | ||
| We're going to turn in a minute, go back through the manifesto, go into the details of this and how they expect to promulgate the message that there are therapies out there that are every bit as effective as one-size-fits-all vaccines. | ||
| Be back in a moment. | ||
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| Okay, we're back with Dr. Robert Malone and his team at the Physicians Health Alliance. | ||
| Dr. Malone, the floor is yours, sir, from Rome. | ||
| So thanks for that tee up with the last segment. | ||
| Your point about disseminating information is crucial. | ||
| I'm not sure how it's happened or why it's happened. | ||
| Is it because the large journals are controlled by the pharmaceutical industry, which pays a lot of their bills? | ||
| But we're in an unprecedented situation where physicians and scientists are being blocked from being able to publish and share information. | ||
| about their findings, both scientific findings and particularly clinical findings having to do with repurposed drugs. | ||
| All of that information is being blocked. | ||
| So what we're doing now as this alliance is working with some experts in media and communications and censorship and the ability to overcome the censorship And the ranking tools that have been built by the large media and I.T. | ||
| companies. | ||
| And we're going to we are starting with development of this manifesto clear explicit statement about the rights of physicians to treat patients. | ||
| We're not telling people physicians how to treat patients. | ||
| We're just expressing a common sense that Physicians have this right, they traditionally have the right to treat their patients, take care of their patients, engage in the physician-patient relationship. | ||
| And I'd like to have Heather speak to the essence of that manifesto. | ||
| What are the key points that we as a group that came together in Puerto Rico all agreed on? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So in San Juan, we had a great meeting with the Pandemic Health Alliance. | ||
| And one of the things that we did was develop a declaration that declares what we believe as physicians to be the most crucial things that are happening right now in America and how we fix them. | ||
| The main issues, I'm just going to list them out, are the importance of the physician-patient relationship and the importance that we do not have interference from outside entities that are telling us how to practice. | ||
| We've never had this happen before in America. | ||
| And the next thing is the fact that medicine is art and science, and we need to be able to utilize tools. | ||
| That we've had available already safe FDA approved medications and the ability to be able to utilize them as a sort of trial and error approach to be able to take care of our patients. | ||
| We don't want to wait and see how they do and we don't want to send them to the ER only when they're sick. | ||
| We want to be able to treat them preemptively. | ||
| We want to be able to take care of them at home. | ||
| We want to be able to prevent the hospitalizations. | ||
| Another thing that is in this declaration is the fact that we've been restricted. | ||
| In multiple ways, from being able to practice, and that occurs at the level of the pharmacy, it occurs at the level of the hospital policies, it occurs at the level of the employers, of these physicians, and of these providers, to be able to take care of the patients as they see fit, based off of the knowledge that they have available. | ||
| And then, the fact that as patients, they're losing faith in the practice of medicine. | ||
| We want to be able to restore this practice. | ||
| We want to be able to restore the sanctity of the physician and patient relationship and the integrity of the medical profession and the art and science of medicine. | ||
| More than ever, we want to be able to continue to explore and exchange basic scientific concepts without censorship. | ||
| And the importance of this is that we are able to further understand this disease. | ||
| One of the things about the Pandemic Health Alliance is that we're able to discuss among ourselves And act preemptively and act quickly whenever things change with medicine or change with a disease and be able to respond so that we can help our patients. | ||
| Dr. Malone. | ||
| So Steve, we're in a situation where we have a ongoing huge public health crisis with literally thousands and thousands of Americans dying unnecessarily. | ||
| There are rigorous Studies that have been done right now estimating, they haven't been published yet, estimating the unnecessary loss of life in America from restricting the ability of physicians to treat early. | ||
| And the numbers are in the hundreds of thousands of excess unnecessary deaths that are consequent to this odd policy of not allowing physicians to practice medicine. | ||
| And the problem with the logic that you have to do clinical trials to prove something, Before you can implement it is that that takes 9, 12, 18 months just to do the study. | ||
| And then there's the time to get it published, which can be up to an additional year. | ||
| We don't have that luxury. | ||
| What we've seen all the way through this outbreak is frontline physicians applying best medical practices, testing out different drug combinations and therapies, | ||
| And finding solutions that are helping patients, but to do that as a full clinical trial in the face of an outbreak means that we're going to lose hundreds of thousands of additional lives while we're going through that whole process with things that are already being proven clinically to work. | ||
| So I'd like to pass off to Dr. Cole when you get a chance to let him speak to this. | ||
| Dr. Cole, just to give you a sense, Steve, Dr. Cole, has treated thousands and thousands of patients. He's triple boarded. He sits as a pathologist as the basically in the center of the whole process looking at what the disease is actually doing to people and also looking at what the vaccines are actually doing to people. | ||
| I tell you what, we're going to break. | ||
| Let's hold Dr. Cole. | ||
| I want to start with that when we come back. | ||
| And the question I want to have, and Dr. Cole, we want him to start off and go through this. | ||
| But also, given what Biden said and what Fauci and the regulations right now at OSHA, that people are essentially going to have a choice between getting a vaccine and having a job, essentially, or getting a vaccine and having your children go to school. | ||
| How does the Physician Health Alliance work In that ecosystem. | ||
| The reality is that this is what the government's doing. | ||
| There's going to be lawsuits everywhere but right now they are drafting, they are drafting at OSHA very strict requirements for employers. | ||
| Now this is all going to get fought out in the courts but that's coming. | ||
| We'll take a short commercial break. | ||
| The Physicians Pandemic Health Alliance is with us with Dr. Malone in Rome. | ||
| We're gonna take a short commercial break. | ||
| Dr. Cole, Dr. Gessling will return with us to go through the successes of the alternative therapies, the therapies. | ||
| Be back in a moment. |
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