Sept. 7, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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OK, we're going to we're going to bring in Rudy Giuliani here in a moment. | |
| We're doing a run up to 9-11 and we're bringing in America's mayor. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, we're gonna bring in Rudy Giuliani here in a moment. | ||
| We're doing a run-up to 9-11 and we're bringing in America's mayor. But I've got Jerome here. | ||
| And I've got Jerome and Jack Pasova gets re-seated. I know you tape your thing, but we gotta get you about live television. | ||
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So such a good man. | |
| NATO. | ||
| Jerome, your thoughts with the Biden regime. | ||
| France is our oldest ally. | ||
| We wouldn't have won independence if it was not for France, right? | ||
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We needed you on D-Day. | |
| No, but it all works out. | ||
| That's what partners are about, right? | ||
| And people think they say, oh, the French are so weak. | ||
| Hey, they've got some tough hombres in France. | ||
| There was that guy they had in the 1800s, what was his name again? | ||
| Yeah, he had my guy Nelson, but I'm just saying, even up with Napoleon. | ||
| NATO. | ||
| The Biden regime. | ||
| They talked to me, and when he got back, said, hey, Trump was, you know, hated in NATO, didn't know what he was doing, had all these amateurs. | ||
| I'm, America's back. | ||
| He went over to Europe, America's back. | ||
| What, from a European perspective, On what the Biden regime has been like, where do you guys stand now in France? | ||
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But I'm standing on a French perspective. | |
| French perspective, right. | ||
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Because I don't believe that defense initiatives should be European. | |
| They have to be national. | ||
| And the safety and security of France is not the safety and security of all of the European Union. | ||
| We have different targets, different worries. | ||
| A guy named de Gaulle believed in that too, right? | ||
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Exactly. | |
| And we want to go back with Marine Le Pen. | ||
| We want to go back to the 1965 decision to leave the military integrated command of NATO. | ||
| We don't believe that the French military should be under the supervision of the U.S. | ||
| military. | ||
| Not that we dislike it, but we think we have to be able to make our own decision. | ||
| plus our country is one of the five countries that has nuclear power. | ||
| And the way we envision the use of nuclear power is not compatible with some of the military action that NATO is taking. | ||
| I'm talking specifically about the missile shield that the U.S. through NATO is trying to put over Europe. | ||
| It is completely in an opposite doctrine of the use of the nuclear weapon by France. | ||
| We believe that this is our last defense. | ||
| If we tell any foe that if they come and strike the French territory, we will nuke them. | ||
| So we don't want to have some kind of missile defense that we don't control. | ||
| It would be up to a NATO officer, most likely a U.S. | ||
| officer, to decide whether or not to strike those defense missile, and I think this is incompatible with the autonomy of France. | ||
| So this is why we want to leave the military integrated common. | ||
| But at the same time, we do believe that the Americans are our closest ally, and we need to have a strengthened relationship with them, specifically on Pacific issues. | ||
| France has huge territories, specifically in New Caledonia, that is in the South Pacific, and it is under duress. | ||
| It is under direct threat from the CCP. | ||
| And we are envisioning scenario like a fleet of 300 fishermen coming into our French waters in New Caledonia. | ||
| Chinese CCP fishermen? | ||
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Exactly. | |
| They would be accompanied, because it has happened before, by a Chinese coast guard. | ||
| You have to know that Chinese coast guards have missiles. | ||
| How do we react? | ||
| What do we do? | ||
| They do this in the South China Sea constantly. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Especially the Philippines. | ||
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And we're worried that they are going to come and do that in French territorial water. | |
| So this is what we want to talk with the United States. | ||
| We want a specific agreement. | ||
| How do we tackle that? | ||
| How do we make sure that we keep China at bay and they don't invade other territories? | ||
| I'm going to bring in Rudy right now, but let me ask you. | ||
| A lot of people will say, this is just the nationalist movement in France playing footsie with Putin. | ||
| Just told you I want a specific defense agreement with the United States. | ||
| So I'm not playing footsie with anyone. | ||
| I'm independent. | ||
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he's a he's a uh... just a little bit of a drug deal just told you i want a specific defense agreement with united states so i'm not playing footsie with anyone but i mean i don't find you what you want to treat you on a bilateral treatment exactly we we can help each other We have for several decades helped each other with the nuclear research that we both do. | |
| You use some of our tools that are in the south of France. | ||
| We use a lot of the research that you are doing. | ||
| We need to keep that going. | ||
| But I don't want to be in a submissive relationship where we dish out money. | ||
| France is a proud independent country. | ||
| We have issues that are not always your issues, and you have issues that are not always our issues. | ||
| So we need to be able to talk about it. | ||
| And play where it really makes sense right now, and the big threat right now is in the Pacific. | ||
| But the Chinese Communist Party? | ||
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Exactly. | |
| We said the left flank of this war is in Kashmir. | ||
| It's India, our ally in India, versus Pakistan, Iran, now the terrorist super-state of Afghanistan. | ||
| To throw out on that before we move on, The Taliban just announced they've invited six nations, the six nations of the Eastern Order, to Kabul for the founding of the new government, which looks to be, they haven't said this completely yet, but they may actually be making that announcement on what date? | ||
| September 11th. | ||
| Get ready folks, get ready. | ||
| And it's, what is it? | ||
| China, Russia, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, Qatar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are you talking about the enemies? | ||
| And by the way, Qatar... That's the six. | ||
| Blinken's over there kowtowing to Qatar. | ||
| That's the six. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| I want to bring in Rudy Giuliani now. | ||
| Rudy, I know you got a lot of thoughts on NATO, but talk to me first about what Posobiec just mentioned about they're going to probably announce their new government and have a ceremony for the new terrorist super state with their allies to control the Central Asian landmass Probably on 9-11. | ||
| How does that set with you, America's mayor? | ||
| Very, very bad. | ||
| Of course, it's a terrible thing that Biden brought about from the very beginning in April when he said he was going to close it down on September 11. | ||
| I objected to it because I could see he wanted to make it a political circus. | ||
| And I mean, that's disgusting. | ||
| He picked September 11 so that he could say, oh, the war is over. | ||
| He doesn't realize that Almost all of the people who lost loved ones on September 11th, particularly the firefighters and police officers, they're very frightened about the idea that the Taliban, who was there at the time, is going to be back in charge. | ||
| Al Qaeda has, in about two weeks, doubled in size. | ||
| New ones are coming out of the woodwork. | ||
| You know, ISIS-K, the Haqqani Network, which is actually more powerful than Taliban. | ||
| The place is like a playground for terrorists. | ||
| And now we have absolutely no control over it. | ||
| Our intelligence is hard. | ||
| I mean, this once again demonstrates our intelligence is almost always wrong. | ||
| If our intelligence tells us one thing, we should probably do the other. | ||
| So, I mean, so if someone tells us, oh, they really aren't that dangerous. | ||
| What is that based on? | ||
| It's based on the same faulty intelligence that told us that it was going to be really hard for Al Qaeda to overthrow the Afghan government. | ||
| And finally, Everyone that I know that seriously involved in this says there's no way that this isn't a great danger to us. | ||
| These people are symbolic. | ||
| They want to get back at us. | ||
| And I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if they're not ready for a strike within six months, given the fact that they now have all of our weapons as well. | ||
| Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down for a second. | ||
| When you say strike, you mean strike regionally? | ||
| You mean strike inside of Afghanistan? | ||
| You mean strike regionally? | ||
| Are you saying a strike in Europe or in the United States? | ||
| Well, let's take it a step at a time. | ||
| They're capable now of striking American interests in Europe. | ||
| The real question is, would they do another one in the continental United States? | ||
| From what I can tell, which is, You know, from afar and just getting bits and pieces. | ||
| They're not ready for that right now. | ||
| Hang on for a second. | ||
| Whoa, slow down, slow down. | ||
| What do you mean that they... What do you know that we don't that says they could strike in Europe right now? | ||
| Well, the fact that they've been able to do it at different times over the last three or four years. | ||
| Before they even took over, the Taliban was capable of doing something outside of the United States. | ||
| They could do something in conjunction with Iran. | ||
| Iran is certainly capable of it. | ||
| God, they almost killed me twice in Europe. | ||
| But you're saying the Haqqani Network, or Al-Qaeda, or ISIS, or the other people in this witch's brew of the terrorist super-state, not Taliban, quad-Taliban, but I mean, because it's all one, right? | ||
| Of course, against us, they're all one. | ||
| And in fact, except for ISIS-K, they have all been allies. | ||
| O'Connor is suspected of being the real power behind the Taliban and the ISIS ISIS K is one of our Yeah, mr I just throw out there the Taliban has been announcing all throughout this morning Who their new cabinet members are going to be for the new government? | ||
| They're already starting to roll this out. | ||
| You just hit the nail on the head. | ||
| Sirajuddin Haqqani is going to be the new interior minister of the interim government of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, a literal terrorist that the FBI has a $5 million bounty on. | ||
| Well, I found out where he is. | ||
| Can I get a piece of that? | ||
| Maybe a finder's fee? | ||
| Maybe FBI? | ||
| Hook it up. | ||
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And I wanted to add to what Rudy Giuliani just said. | |
| Yes, they can strike in Europe because Europe is so dumb. | ||
| Within seven days of having, harboring Afghan, so-called Afghan refugees, five of them are already under suspicion of terrorist activities. | ||
| Five so-called Afghan refugees within a week of their arrival in France were under surveillance by the Ministry of Interior because we believe that they have ties to the terrorists. | ||
| So yes, definitely they can strike in Europe. | ||
| They have several times and they will again because we keep playing dumb. | ||
| We are right now Our governments are focusing on harboring so-called refugees when we don't vet them. | ||
| We have no idea who they are. | ||
| Plus it's not women, it's not kids coming, it's young men in fighting age. | ||
| And we know, we have proof right now, that some of them already have been discovered. | ||
| So I don't know how many have not been discovered, but we are harboring a fifth column within our borders. | ||
| Rudy responded that about this fifth column. | ||
| And by the way, I agree with you that if you're considering that, but Taliban, Quad Taliban, but they're their partners. | ||
| And now they got the Haqqani Network as their partner in a terrorist's internal minister. | ||
| What should the Biden administration do, Rudy? | ||
| What's your recommendation? | ||
| Well, I mean, what was just said applies to the United States tenfold. | ||
| I mean, we let in 50,000 Afghans, not the ones that were on the list to come in. | ||
| In other words, not the ones who helped or have a record of helping our government interpreters. | ||
| They're still stuck there. | ||
| We just let in 50,000 Afghanis. | ||
| Very little vetting was done. | ||
| Now, if those networks didn't take advantage of that since they control the airport to put some of their operatives on it, then they're really stupid. | ||
| So there's no doubt we brought in, but we know we brought in rapists because they did some rapes on the plane. | ||
| We know we brought in guys with 13 and 14 year old brides and we know we brought in people who were polygamists. | ||
| These were not the people on the list, by the way. | ||
| Hang on for a second, my head's blown up. | ||
| What do you mean they did rapes on the planes? | ||
| Where did you see this? | ||
| Several women complained of being raped in the journey over. | ||
| Number two, there were people among them that had records that were being looked at for being involved with the terrorist network. | ||
| But it would be illogical if 50,000 got in. | ||
| They were in control of it. | ||
| They didn't use it like What a great opportunity to get operatives of Al Qaeda, any of the groups into the United States. | ||
| Why we brought them in instead of the people that we have made a promise to is, again, another one of the things the Biden administration did that's inexplicable. | ||
| Check. Is, is, is, is there's no screening. | ||
| All of our allies, most of the guys, the commandos and the SIV people, the translators, are still in region somewhere. | ||
| Yet here, 50,000. | ||
| A lot of the people that came over too, you're looking at, you know, this wasn't all just the impoverished people of Afghanistan. | ||
| This was, if you were rich, if you were in Kabul, if you were able to get to that airport, if you had a hookup at the gate, at the embassy, you were getting on that plane and you were getting your people on that plane. | ||
| Now, somebody comes over, you say, oh, that's my daughter, but actually she's underage, and that's your wife. | ||
| Or, oh, you say, oh, that's my little nephew, but, you know, just don't look up the phrase bacha-bazi, but we know that we are people who served over there, we're told to look the other way, and oh, they just have cultural differences for the way that they treat young boys over there. | ||
| And these are people that we had been allied with. | ||
| Keep in mind, we had been allied with. | ||
| Now you've got reports that when they're coming into these U.S. | ||
| bases, when they're coming into Loudoun County, Virginia, that they're going out to these I got a report in this weekend from a very, very good government official, actually. | ||
| He said he's at Loudoun County Hospital, and he said, yeah, they're bringing him out here to the hospital. | ||
| They drop him off. | ||
| Nobody comes to pick him up. | ||
| They just wander away. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| And essentially, we've been party to child trafficking. | ||
| Essentially, right? | ||
| Particularly the situation with the older males and the younger girls. | ||
| I think literally. | ||
| I mean, it's unbelievable. | ||
| Rudy, I'll tell you what, hang on for a second. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to come back. | ||
| I've got to get Rudy. | ||
| I want to go back into this native situation, get Posobiec's thoughts and Rudy's thoughts, and then we're going to talk about the firefighters on 9-11. | ||
| We've got America's Mayor with us. | ||
| We have Jerome Revere from National Rally, the populist nationalist party over in France. | ||
| He's also in the European Union as a senior, a European parliament, as a senior member representing the Front National. | ||
| Of course, the one and only Jack Posobiec, editor, senior editor over at Human Events. | ||
| Now a must-read, a must-read because of Jack Posobiec's great efforts. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back in a moment. | ||
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| You got breaking news, Jack, out of Afghanistan? | ||
| Yes, Steve, it's very horrible. | ||
| The New York Times is so upset about this. | ||
| One of their reporters just released a statement that the Taliban announced its cabinet today. | ||
| Almost all members are mullahs. | ||
| They're almost completely Pashtun. | ||
| And no women have been announced on the cabinet of the Taliban government. | ||
| I'm so shocked. | ||
| The Taliban, all mullahs, all Pashtuns, and no women. | ||
| Who could have predicted this? | ||
| The searing insight. | ||
| Who could have? | ||
| What's Jen Psaki got to say about that? | ||
| Well, Jen Psaki says there's not much to worry about because she's now claiming that there's only less than 100 Americans left behind in Afghanistan. | ||
| I just want to say, Jen, where are you getting that number from? | ||
| Because we've seen numbers all over the place. | ||
| Ain't less than 100. | ||
| I got less than 100 in my inbox right now. | ||
| I don't agree very much with what Macron is saying, but he said one true thing. | ||
| People saying 500 to 1,000. | ||
| Administration is lying. | ||
| Okay, I want to pivot back to NATO. | ||
| Make your theory of the case again, Jerome, about NATO. | ||
| I want to get Rudy, make sure Rudy hears this. | ||
| I want to hear what Rudy has to say because NATO did come together after 9-11. | ||
| So walk through your theory of the case of France, an independent nuclear power, an independent military power in conjunction with the United States. | ||
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Jerome, we're all here. | |
| I don't agree very much with what Macron is saying, but he said one true thing. | ||
| He said NATO is brain dead. | ||
| We don't know what NATO's targets are. | ||
| We don't know what it is protecting us from. | ||
| We don't exactly know what it is. | ||
| A lot of countries believe that this is sure alliances with the United States. | ||
| That's why it plays so well, especially in the eastern country of Europe. | ||
| But France is a major military power. | ||
| We have the nuclear weapon, as you say. | ||
| We have our own doctrine on the way we want to use the nuclear weapon. | ||
| It is not compatible. | ||
| I said previously with the way NATO is using a missile shield all over Europe, but I believe in special defense agreement with allies on specific subject. | ||
| We cannot have a general agreement like we had when we had the Cold War. | ||
| At the time, it was very basic and simple. | ||
| You had the Western bloc and the Eastern bloc. | ||
| We needed to fight communism. | ||
| Today, it is the threats are quite different. | ||
| The main threat I believe right now is with China in the Pacific. | ||
| This is where they are going to push us to see if we can resist or not. | ||
| I was baffled by the way the Chinese newspaper were saying to the Taiwanese people, look, Biden was unable to do a properly get out of Afghanistan, so they will never come help you in Taiwan the day we come in for you. | ||
| So this is where we have a lot of threats. | ||
| So this is where we need to have alliances on specific subject. | ||
| So I do not believe that the integrated military command of NATO works anymore. | ||
| Look, as you were saying, Jack, the last NATO mission was Afghanistan. | ||
| Right, I think a lot of that has been missing in the press coverage where US is getting, and rightfully so, is getting a lot of the responsibility for this, but that was, ISAF was a NATO run mission. | ||
| This was all run through that organization, which I think was confusing to a lot of people. | ||
| Why is an organization that was set up, as you say, about the Eastern Bloc? | ||
| Well, because- Involved in Afghanistan. | ||
| Yeah, because it was- Rudy Giuliani can answer that. | ||
| Because after- Attack upon one is an attack upon all, according to NATO. | ||
| And that's why Afghanistan- That's why- Rudy, come in here and- For Jerome. | ||
| The attack in Afghanistan was- What's- Article 5 immediately that afternoon. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And when we made- And when we made a military- When the paramilitary went in on October 7th, it was looked at as an attack- That's why it was always coalition forces. | ||
| Rudy, give us your assessment of NATO. | ||
| Well, I think that it was struck an unbelievably difficult blow by Biden in not even consulting with our allies and what he was doing. | ||
| They were caught by surprise. | ||
| The Brits and the French did what we should do. | ||
| They sent troops over and took their own people out. | ||
| But they had to do it kind of late. | ||
| I would think they have a lot of concerns. | ||
| You know, it reminds me of way back in the 70s when Carter was president and the allies wanted to almost pull out. | ||
| We had to deploy the cruise missiles in order to convince them that we would that we would defend them against a nuclear attack. | ||
| And then Carter canceled. | ||
| And of course, when Reagan came in, Reagan deployed them in about 1983 to much, much criticism. | ||
| Movies like The Morning After, we were going to destroy the world. | ||
| So I think this is a problem with, you know, Democrat presidents. | ||
| People don't have confidence that they will actually do the hard things. | ||
| For example, so far, what we've done is we've had two drone, I wouldn't call them even strikes, and we dropped a little thing twice on people we don't even know who they are. | ||
| You might as well not do anything if you're going to do that. | ||
| The guy running the government, the Afghan government, is a well-known butcher. | ||
| I think that's his nickname. | ||
| So, I mean, we have a completely terrorist government, not just all male, all accomplished terrorists and more crooks. | ||
| So we've got to stop with this stuff that Boston is saying, you know, we may partner with them. | ||
| Like hell we're going to partner with them. | ||
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I mean, that's crazy. | |
| On the cross-border, let me go, on the cross-border, is it, in your mind, from Front National and National Rally, is the working together on the anti, the global war on terror, the anti-terrorist stuff, to make sure that they don't come to Europe and don't come to the United States, is that strengthened by this alliance, or is that separate, is that law enforcement and intelligence services working together separately, Jerome? | ||
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It is not NATO jobs, and it cannot be the new mission. | |
| I know that people, some people are advocating the fact that NATO would become The alliance fighting against terrorism. | ||
| I think that right now a lot of people like this alliance. | ||
| It provides jobs. | ||
| It provides a lot of things. | ||
| And they want to find a new way of making it last. | ||
| I think we have to think it differently. | ||
| NATO was provided during the Cold War. | ||
| It is not efficient anymore as a military tool. | ||
| And we need to rethink our alliances. | ||
| You're different because Macron keeps talking about a European army. | ||
| He keeps talking about a European army with Germany. | ||
| Is that all nonsense? | ||
| That's all happy talk? | ||
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It is nonsense. | |
| There is no military defense, European military command. | ||
| In order to have an army, you need a command. | ||
| You need a chief of staff. | ||
| So you need one president that is the chief of the army. | ||
| It does not exist in Europe. | ||
| So we have nations. | ||
| That needs to cooperate together. | ||
| We need to have extensive alliances, but we cannot have a European defense. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Rudy, from your perspective, because you're one of the top anti-terrorist guys in the world, is the NATO alliance, a lot of people are talking about it can take over this whole thing of the alliance and working together, France, Germany, the United States, UK, in thwarting terrorism. | ||
| Do you think that's done at another level? | ||
| You think that's just intelligence services working with law enforcement? | ||
| I mean, what is your best Honestly, it's all of the above, Steve. | ||
| Terrorism is a multi-faceted threat. | ||
| It's a threat of small attacks, it's a threat of cyber attacks, and it's also a threat where you do need the military to assist you. | ||
| Plus, we can't ignore the fact that we still have a threat from China, a significant one, and I wouldn't say Russia, but you can't completely discount it. | ||
| Also, NATO has always been much easier to work with than when you work with the European governments singularly. | ||
| NATO adopts more of a spirit like ours, whereas when we start dealing with the French governments, they basically want us to, not the French government, the European governments, they basically want to surrender before we even start. | ||
| So, I mean, NATO was the only place to go at one point for the last 20 years to find some people that would Join us. | ||
| So I hate to see NATO. | ||
| First of all, I hate to see it gone. | ||
| I do agree. | ||
| It has to be very much reconfigured. | ||
| It should have been done 20 years ago. | ||
| And the focus has to be somewhat on terrorism. | ||
| The military supplements what intelligence can do because they can pick up more information very often. | ||
| That's one of the downsides to having the military out of Afghanistan. | ||
| We got better intelligence. | ||
| Yeah, look, so having looked at this from the perspective of my seat in the intelligence community when I was there, it wasn't a question of us getting the intelligence. | ||
| Nine times out of ten, we actually did have the intelligence. | ||
| It was a question of creating so many bureaucracies on top of the intelligence rather than having These national groups are working directly together. | ||
| What terrorist attacks did NATO stop? | ||
| France, the horrific, the Bataclan attack 2015, Paris, right in the heart of the rise of ISIS, all the attacks that we saw across the continent, the attacks that we saw, with the exception of Poland of course, all the attacks across Germany, everything that was going on, Sweden, What did NATO do to stop any of that? | ||
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Plus, we had a lot of military action that were made to prevent terrorism that are not part of NATO. | |
| Look, France has been involved in Mali, which is a sub-Sahel, for many, many years in order to prevent... And Libya. | ||
| I mean, Mali, Niger, in order to prevent terrorism from organizing themselves and sending terrorists in Europe and ultimately in the United States. | ||
| I agree with both of you. | ||
| We need military action, but I don't think that a bureaucratic military alliance such as NATO is a good way to do it. | ||
| My JSOC friends say that when the French get in town in that part of North Africa, you get out of their way because they're going to business. | ||
| That's a foreign legion. | ||
| That's a foreign legion. | ||
| That's a foreign legion mindset. | ||
| That's a foreign legion DNA. | ||
| Rudy, can you stay through the break? | ||
| I want to talk about the firemen in 9-11. | ||
| Can we keep you for a few more minutes after the break? | ||
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Sure, absolutely. | |
| Yep, absolutely Steve. | ||
| Okay, America's Mayor is going to stick with us. | ||
| We've got Jerome Revere, we've got Jack Pasovic. | ||
| We're going to talk more about the rising threat of the Chinese Communist Party and is it being undercut, is it being undercut by the infiltration into the European Union and into Europe right now? | ||
| Are we really going to have allies there when push comes to shove in the Third World War which has already commenced? | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back in the War Room in a moment. | ||
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| We always want to give you tomorrow's news today, but I guess we're going hour by hour, giving it to you in advance. | ||
| MSNBC and CNN, all the screens here, they're in total meltdown on the Texas heartbeat bill. | ||
| You actually have someone, I can't tell who it is because we have it muted, but there is a woman on CNN who's actually crying. | ||
| She's actually bawling, and I believe that's over The abortion law, then on MSNBC, which we have over there, you've got them all freaking out and they're still going about the election law also coming out of Texas. | ||
| So Texas is leading the way, folks, as usual. | ||
| That's where we had Ken Paxson. | ||
| By the way, they're going to turn the... What you see, how they're playing the heartbeat bill Is it saying this is the new war on women? | ||
| So this is going to be a huge cultural thing. | ||
| Every day you're going to see this, the drumbeat as they go after this bill. | ||
| So it's going to be, and of course the Republican establishment, the establishment Republicans are just running and hiding from this thing. | ||
| They're desperate to change the conversation because they know they're not doing well in COVID. | ||
| They know they're not, they know they lost completely on Afghanistan. | ||
| Texas is the exact way that they think they can get out of this. | ||
| Yeah, Texas is spending money, so they're cornered right now. | ||
| We're going to get to Fauci. | ||
| Explosive news over at the Intercept by a 40 request on Fauci. | ||
| All the great reporting done by National Pulse, Natalie Winters, of course, Human Events, Jack Posobiec has all come to fruition now. | ||
| There's more information coming up. | ||
| I want to pivot to Rudy. | ||
| Well, we've got the mayor. | ||
| Mayor, there's a big tribute today, incredibly moving, in the New York Post. | ||
| If we can put that up in Denver. | ||
| The children of the firefighters from 20 years ago that are now honoring in the commemoration of the 20th anniversary, that this is like the people in Afghanistan whose fathers fought there and their sons and daughters are going over to the Afghan war. | ||
| We've seen the same thing of the fire department. | ||
| Tell us, Mayor, about the Fire Department, FDNY, the Fire Department of the City of New York. | ||
| I know you know this as well as anybody, so tell us what they're like. | ||
| What's the esprit de corps there? | ||
| Oh my goodness, what they're like. | ||
| They're the bravest people you'll ever meet. | ||
| They're too brave for their own good. | ||
| When I was the... I come from a family of, you know, four police officers and a fire captain, and my uncle, who was a fire captain, got seriously injured when I was a little boy. | ||
| My mother used to take me to See him in the hospital, so it's seared in my memory. | ||
| All he wanted to do is go back to work. | ||
| Then he had a career of 22 years and became a captain, was injured again. | ||
| Our firefighters, our New York City firefighters, lead by going in. | ||
| They lead by going right into the fire. | ||
| They're not supposed to go in unless there's water on the fire. | ||
| That's a rule. | ||
| I was constantly having to discipline them because they would. | ||
| They'd get there, and if the water wasn't on the fire and there was somebody in there, they were in there taking out the baby or the child. | ||
| They're brilliant at what they do because, remember, they have to know how to fight high-rise fires, the most complicated buildings in the world, factories that we still have, complex ones, and a single-family home. | ||
| So they have probably the most complex job of any firefighters in the country. | ||
| And I'll give you one example. | ||
| There was a big dispute that an evacuate order was given after the first building came down to the firefighters. | ||
| And they say that the firefighters didn't get the warning. | ||
| Turns out, we analyzed it, about two thirds of them actually got through. | ||
| So why did they not evacuate? | ||
| Because to a New York City firefighter, evacuate doesn't mean you run out. | ||
| Evacuate means you leave after every civilian is off the floor. | ||
| So they remained. | ||
| And for that reason, they probably saved 3-4,000 lives. | ||
| And that is actually documented in the 9-11 report. | ||
| They're exceptionally brave men and women. | ||
| I want to make sure people understand that. | ||
| Go back to that and give us the details. | ||
| How do you make that connection between 3,000 and 4,000 people saved on that day? | ||
| Well, I'll tell you how. | ||
| I was on the street. | ||
| I asked for an estimate of how many people died. | ||
| The Port Authority that knew that building backwards and forward told me probably it was about 10,000 people, given the number of people in the building at the time and the amount of time they had to get out. | ||
| And then later in the day, at the time at night when I was asked how many people died, and the answer I gave was, I'm not going to give that number now. | ||
| It's too much to bear. | ||
| We've been through too much today. | ||
| It's time for that tomorrow. | ||
| At that point, it had been brought down to 6,000. | ||
| That was the hard estimate. | ||
| Because of the way they carried out the rescue, they got it down to below 3,000. | ||
| And the 9-11 Commission has a whole chapter on this, and I wish Pete Gansky, who was in charge of it, could be alive To see it, because when I arrived at the site, which was minutes after the second plane came in and went right below the tower with Pete, who was the fire chief in charge of it, I asked him if we could get helicopters up there. | ||
| And he said to me, Mayor, my guys can save everybody below the fire. | ||
| Now you go to the 9-11 Commission report and it says that it was the best rescue operation in history and that they saved every person they could save. | ||
| They couldn't get above the fire because the fire blocked them. | ||
| They made the evacuation very, very orderly. | ||
| Think of fires in the past where people get killed running out. | ||
| People block exits. | ||
| People create the delay. | ||
| Instead, we had none of that. | ||
| People come up to me at airports all around the world and say, would you please thank your firefighters? | ||
| Because I was in the building, and if they weren't on every floor, We would have had we would have some of us would have died in the in the exit. | ||
| Nobody died. | ||
| Nobody got hurt. | ||
| They did it so efficiently that they defied even the estimate of the Port Authority, how many you could get out in that period of time, and they defied it by about 3000. | ||
| So that's why that's that's where I get the number. | ||
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| Mayor, how many funerals did you attend for firefighters? | ||
| We'll deal with the police tomorrow, but walk through the firefighters. | ||
| In your memory, how many funerals for firefighters did you attend? | ||
| Two or three a day, and then at night when I had the time, I'd go to three or four weeks. | ||
| I felt very bad that I couldn't go to all of them, so I went to probably about half. | ||
| But the ones that I didn't go to the funeral, I went to the wake night before. | ||
| And there were a few exceptions to that when we had emergencies. | ||
| And then I sent Governor Hugh Carey and Mayor Ed Koch, who both volunteered to substitute for me. | ||
| And then I would go visit that family. | ||
| The hardest thing was watching the children. | ||
| It's getting up, giving a eulogy and watching little girls and little boys knowing they're going to grow up without a father. | ||
| And it's so wonderful to see them now because a lot of them have grown up to be very, very fine young men. | ||
| And many of those have joined the have joined FDNY, the fire department. | ||
| And the military. | ||
| Many of them have joined the military and the FDNY. | ||
| Well, it's kind of a family organization anyway. | ||
| You know, a lot of people will say, why would you ever want to be a firefighter? | ||
| You're spending your life running into fires. | ||
| You have to be part of the firefighter family, the firefighter fraternity, sorority, whatever. | ||
| You've got to know how rewarding a job it is. | ||
| That makes the fear then something you're willing to bear. | ||
| So if your father was a firefighter or your uncle or, you know, in my case, my uncle, I mean, I could have just easily been a firefighter as a police officer if I hadn't actually decided I wanted to be a priest and went to college and went off into the law. | ||
| But I mean, I know the tremendous reward they get Makes up for the tremendous risk that they take. | ||
| You don't know that unless you're part of the firefighter community. | ||
| Rudy, what is your... I know you've got a number of podcasts this week to focus specifically on the run-up to 9-11, the commemoration on Saturday. | ||
| Walk us through, how do people get to the podcast? | ||
| How do they listen to your radio show? | ||
| How do they follow you on social media? | ||
| There's one out right now. | ||
| It's just an audio one about 9-11 and how safe we are or not as a result of Biden's reckless behavior. | ||
| The next two are going to be out on Thursday and Friday, and they're basically going to be interviews with people that that observed it firsthand, that were either in it as rescue workers or one case, a man who was right below the tower and photographed it. | ||
| Another case, the highest ranking firefighter that survived, saw the whole thing right straight through. | ||
| And then a few of the people that I survived with. | ||
| We were trapped in a building for 20 to 30 minutes. | ||
| And if I didn't have such a great group of people, we could have made some pretty deadly mistakes in exiting. | ||
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| Wow. | ||
| Rudy's Common Sense, the podcast. | ||
| We're going to be putting it up on the site all week. | ||
| So just incredible. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani, America's Mayor. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| I know you're packed. | ||
| This week, so I really appreciate you taking time every day to join us. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Good show. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| I want to go to, we've got a lot of breaking news. | ||
| We're going to get some after the break. | ||
| Kony, some of our colleagues. | ||
| Talk about Fauci. | ||
| Look, we've got to cover this story today because even though there is breaking news, this is potentially one of the biggest shoes that's dropped in all of this. | ||
| We called the shot here in War Room almost two years ago, right in this room, sitting around this very table. | ||
| January 2020, I was the first guest on a Saturday morning. | ||
| And you ended the first show? | ||
| Ended the first show, and we were sitting around here talking about this. | ||
| Now we've got a FOIA, Freedom of Information Document Request, has come out. | ||
| Dr. Richard Ebright, who by the way, the head of the Ebright Labs at Rutgers, has put this out. | ||
| New materials emerged of the funding that went from Peter Daszak's EcoHealth Alliance from the NIH under specifically NIAID directed by none other than Dr. Fauci, as we all know. | ||
| Not only were they going to the Wuhan lab, not only Were they conducting these experiments during that? | ||
| Remember, there's that weird sort of 2014-2017 time span where they said, oh, it's this, we put a pause, we're not doing any of this stuff, none of this is happening. | ||
| The new documents. | ||
| Remember, Rand Paul was blowing them up over this and all of it. | ||
| During that time, Wuhan was creating chimeric viruses with spike proteins Infecting humanized mice to determine the potential for pandemic. | ||
| And I want everyone to remember these two words, pathogen enhancement. | ||
| Pathogen Enhancement. | ||
| They were studying Pathogen Enhancement. | ||
| That's weaponization. | ||
| That's gain-of-function, folks. | ||
| That's gain-of-function, and gain-of-function is a fancy scientific term. | ||
| We've used that from the very first day. | ||
| 23 Hadfield sat there. | ||
| Go all the way back. | ||
| I think Pasova was there and Hadfield was here, right? | ||
| In fact, we finished the show. | ||
| And, by the way, this is, and they've always been trying to use this as a debunk. | ||
| They said, well, none of the viruses, none of the viruses, none of the viruses. | ||
| The new materials, guess what? | ||
| There's a virus that wasn't in the unreleased data. | ||
| There was a virus they had on the shelf that they hadn't reported to the world. | ||
| That's just one that we found in this new trove of documents. | ||
| Fauci, and this is why if they don't get him now, they're getting him after 2022, he's a done deal. | ||
| Because it's clear he's been lying to Congress. | ||
| He's been perjuring himself. | ||
| Rand Paul was right, by the way. | ||
| War Room was right. | ||
| Rand Paul was right. | ||
| Trump was right. | ||
| Trump was right. | ||
| Natalie Winters, National Pulse, Jack Posobiec, Human Events, the people that have cornered this guy and put him under a spotlight. | ||
| This is outrageous. | ||
| And it took Ebright up there and the FOIA request. | ||
| Hey, they're not putting any of the information out there. | ||
| Well, remember, Ebright is actually on this P3 board, right? | ||
| So Ebright is one of the guys. | ||
| He actually knows what's going on. | ||
| He's well-sourced in this field, but he had to get the document trail. | ||
| He knew this stuff was in there, but he couldn't say it publicly until now. | ||
| Now he's been dancing around it. | ||
| Oh, there was a gap 2014. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| There was no gap. | ||
| Pathogen enhancement was going on the entire time. | ||
| It was in Wuhan. | ||
| It was chimeric, humanized mice, spike proteins, funded by Fauci. | ||
| It's a bioweapon, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| We're going to get to the bottom of all of it with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| As Jerome Revere says, that's the big threat in the world today, okay? | ||
| In the Pacific, Central Asia, Throughout the world as they've infiltrated everywhere. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back in a moment. | ||
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| Okay, we got a situation down in Brazil. | ||
| I'm going to have Jack Pasovic breaking news on our man, our former co-host here, former senior advisor to President Trump. | ||
| She's now the CEO. | ||
| Well, there's good news and there's bad news, folks. | ||
| The good news is, finally, a CEO of a social media corporation has been arrested. | ||
| The bad news, of course, is Jason Miller. | ||
| I don't think he's actually, because, right, so everybody's running with the headline of, oh, Jason Miller detained, Jason Miller detained, and then you go to the next point, it says, well, they just want him to testify as a witness to this investigation, because you've got a situation now in Brazil, as I understand it, you've got the Supreme Court, which is kind of left-wing. | ||
| Kind of left-wing. | ||
| And then you've got Bolsonaro, who's kind of right-wing. | ||
| Kind of right-wing. | ||
| You know, and everybody's laughing. | ||
| And then so they're using the organs of the state against them. | ||
| Oh no, this is the fight. | ||
| And now Jason is caught up in this because he was down there for CPAC Brazil. | ||
| What did we tell you about the elections next year? | ||
| In May of next year, you've got France. | ||
| In October, you've got Brazil. | ||
| And then in November, you've got the midterm elections. | ||
| This is all inextricably linked. | ||
| Macron and those guys, the globalists, have their eyes on Brazil also, on the Amazon. | ||
| They're always trying to make moves down there. | ||
| Everybody, all the globalists left, the globalist, you know, Build Back Better program, the World Economic Forum, the party of Davos wants to get rid of Bolsonaro, correct? | ||
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Exactly. | |
| I mean, getting rid of Bolsonaro would be the logical step after getting rid of Trump. | ||
| Again, they understand, but they want to play a scenario that's different. | ||
| In fact, the defeat of Trump was not the defeat of the Nationalists, and the way they managed to defeat him, and you covered that in the first part of your show, did not mean the end of the Nationalist movement. | ||
| On the contrary, it is the end of the Globalists, and they are desperate to have new victories. | ||
| But they will not have those victories, because I think that the trend now is to acknowledge by the people that the Globalist agenda has failed. | ||
| Walk our audience through, because sometimes people get so, you know, overwhelmed with what's happening here in the States. | ||
| The nationalists are on the rise throughout the world, there's no doubt in your mind, correct? | ||
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No doubt. | |
| Look, the demonstration in France, Saturday after Saturday, it's people worrying about their nation. | ||
| And there's demonstrations in Brazil today, too. | ||
| The media is not talking about this. | ||
| It's just as big as Gilets Jaunes. | ||
| That's where they did it today, because there's a couple of million people, I think, going to be in Sao Paulo. | ||
| They're all over the beaches! | ||
| They've got helicopters flying over them. | ||
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And your grassroots movement in the United States? | |
| It's the same thing. | ||
| It's people taking over. | ||
| MSNBC is melting down because people are going to be precinct committeemen. | ||
| Same thing happening in Brazil. | ||
| The left-wing Supreme Court there. | ||
| They call it anti-democratic. | ||
| It's just like you're watching MSNBC. | ||
| Look at these videos. | ||
| Can we get that to Denver? | ||
| We've got to get this to Denver. | ||
| They're all over the beaches. | ||
| Millions of people out throughout to support Bolsonaro and support the nationalists. | ||
| By the way, Macron and the globalists, one thing they've always had their eyes on is the Amazon. | ||
| Right? | ||
| They want to make some sort of protectorate out of it. | ||
| It's something that triggers Macron. | ||
| About 18 months ago, two years ago, he was making a big move on it, correct? | ||
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Exactly. | |
| He even used a fake picture when he was worried about the fires. | ||
| He used a picture from fires that were years ago. | ||
| He was trying to blame Bolsonaro for the fires that were happening in the Amazon. | ||
| And in fact, the French president, a sitting French president, used a fake picture to try to make a case. | ||
| It shows how desperate they are to try and fight this movement. | ||
| But they know they have lost, so they are trying to control it. | ||
| You know, I'm worried about the French election. | ||
| Right now we have a sanitary pass. | ||
| I think that they are talking about trying to have a vote, not in person, but through mail-in voting or whatever. | ||
| Oh, they're going to look at what happened in the United States. | ||
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They will try to do exactly what they can. | |
| And by the way, by the way, you and I did an interview about this before, but tell people what France's current policy is when it comes to mail-in voting. | ||
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Right now it is forbidden. | |
| For how long? | ||
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For a very simple reason. | |
| For how long have they done that? | ||
| Since the 70s. | ||
| Because at the time you said this is a way to steal elections. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| They said there are too many possibilities of making false statements, false ballots, so they decided to ban it. | ||
| But right now Macron's people in Congress are trying to push the fact that mailing voting could be a good solution because of the Yeah, it doesn't make sense that you don't have a voter ID. | ||
| I mean, you go and vote, you just have to show who you are. | ||
| I mean, it makes no sense. | ||
| And it makes even less sense that right now, in order to go shopping, you have to go show a sanitary pass. | ||
| Why wouldn't you be able to show an ID in order to be able to vote? | ||
| Look, these are the beaches of Brazil. | ||
| You've got millions of people out there protesting. | ||
| This is freedom. | ||
| This is about freedom. | ||
| Jason Miller went down for Brazil's CPAC. | ||
| He also went down, had many meetings down there as Getter launches. | ||
| It's a platform you can't shut down. | ||
| And they're totally freaked out. | ||
| Now he's the leader of anti-democratic forces. | ||
| I was going to say demonstrating, not protesting. | ||
| Well, a little bit. | ||
| This gets back to Lula. | ||
| We told you, Lula didn't spring from jail. | ||
| He's a transnational criminal. | ||
| He's going to be backed by the CCP. | ||
| He's going to be the guy against Bolsonaro. | ||
| Maybe they'll put Jason next to Lula. | ||
| Jerome, thank you very much. | ||
| You've always got a great perspective on things. | ||
| How do people follow you on social media? | ||
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| J-E-R-O-M-E underscore R-I-V-I-E-R-E. | ||
| And on what platforms? | ||
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It's on Twitter, and Facebook is Jérôme Rivière. | |
| Of course, naturally, we get hearing that on Getter. | ||
| Naturally, our... Take care of that. | ||
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| I hear they need a new CEO if you're interested. | ||
| I have it on Getter, too. | ||
| You have Getter? | ||
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| Okay, fine. | ||
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It's Jérôme Rivière. | |
| I'm getting stink eye now from the staff. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Posobic. | ||
| Human Events have been all over the stuff. | ||
| You guys are doing an amazing job. | ||
| Talk to me about the Fauci. | ||
| What are you doing with these explosive allegations? | ||
| Look, we're going through all 900 pages over at Human Events. | ||
| Go there for more analysis of what's coming out because we've given you the wavetops. | ||
| Now we're going to dig into the granular details. | ||
| And by the way, signal not noise. | ||
| I want people to get ahead of this. | ||
| The Evergrande collapse, this massive real estate firm imploding in China. | ||
| Folks, this could be a Lehman moment. | ||
| Lehman Brothers moment for China. | ||
| We've been talking about the debt, the shadow debt in China. | ||
| It's all going to come to fruition. | ||
| They're being downgraded. | ||
| This is why Xi is so nationalistic now, pushing about Taiwan. | ||
| He needs a victory, right? | ||
| He's not going to get one just like Joe Biden. | ||
| By the way, it was The Intercept that did the four-year request, right? | ||
| The left is now waking up. | ||
| The left understands Fauci's baggage, okay? | ||
| It was The Intercept, a left-wing publication, that did the four-year request. | ||
| We're back here at five, two hours. | ||
| Michelle Bachmann. | ||
| We've got an explosive show tonight. | ||
| Be back here at five. | ||
| We're two hours every night this week, in the evening, in the run-up to 9-11. | ||
| I want to thank Jack Masovic from Human Events, Jerome Revere from National Rally for joining us. | ||
| We'll see you back here at five o'clock. |
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