Sept. 6, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Since we left the country on Friday, how many Americans have gotten out of Afghanistan since we pulled out? | ||
| How many Afghan allies have gotten out since the Taliban was in complete control of the country? | ||
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I understand, zero. | |
| And in fact, we have six airplanes at Mazar Sharif Airport. | ||
| Six airplanes. | ||
| With American citizens on them as I speak, also with these interpreters, and the Taliban is holding them hostage for demands right now. | ||
| The state has cleared these flights, and the Taliban will not let them leave the airport. | ||
| So, I'm sorry, the answer to your question is zero. | ||
| And that's my concern, is they're going to demand more and more, whether it be cash or legitimacy, as the government of Afghanistan. | ||
| Let me pick up on this because I didn't know this. | ||
| You're saying that there are Americans on airplanes ready to fly out of Afghanistan right now and they're not being allowed out because Taliban is making demands. | ||
| What demands are the Taliban making? | ||
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Well, they are not clearing the airplanes to depart. | |
| They've sat at the airport for the last couple of days, these planes, and they're not allowed to leave. | ||
| We know the reason why is because the Taliban want something in exchange. | ||
| This is really, Chris, turning into a hostage situation where they're not going to allow American citizens to leave until they get full recognition from the United States of America. | ||
| My concern is that Zolkhalizad, our special envoy who's met with the Taliban, they're in talks right now. | ||
| And I think, I worry his recommendation to the administration will be to recognize the Taliban as the official government of the United States, a Taliban organization that is a terrorist organization. | ||
| Okay, welcome back into the War Room. | ||
| Obviously, Afghanistan, Central Asia, the opening front of the Third World War in turmoil. | ||
| I want to bring in, Rudy's going to join us in a second to talk about this, but McCall, who is head of the Intelligence Committee, When we were controlled the house Who knows a lot of inside baseball calling a hostage situation on Fox is not a that's kind of dropping a bomb That's one of the reasons we've talked about. | ||
| Hey, everybody over there is a is a potential hostage for for the Taliban and for all the radical jihadists want to bring a rickley who's been a contractor in the region and For many, many, almost decades, right, in Iraq and Afghanistan and other places. | ||
| Rick has been at the forefront of trying to get people out. | ||
| Rick, talk to us about what are your efforts and is the State Department blocking? | ||
| We have now, we have Pineapple Group, we have all these former Special Forces, all these former CIA guys who are trying to help people to actually work with them to get planes out into the region, right, out of Afghanistan. | ||
| Tell us what's going on. | ||
| Is the State Department being helpful in that or not helpful? | ||
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As of right now, they're not really being helpful. | |
| You know, we've worked with... My group is called Plan B at the Afghan Rescue Crew. | ||
| We go A-R-C by short. | ||
| And we've worked with, you know, Pineapple and Digital Dunkirk and No One Left Behind and Choir Professionals and so forth, and also Coalition of Hope. | ||
| We've worked with them, and we've been very successful in getting people out prior to the pullout. | ||
| of American troops from Kabul. | ||
| And since then, we've had, you know, it's been very, very difficult, if not impossible, to get our aircraft into and out of Afghanistan for various reasons. | ||
| And we've been working this problem for quite a while. | ||
| And we now have aircraft that can get in and are in Afghanistan. | ||
| I actually have three aircraft on standby to go in with a improved manifest. | ||
| The only problem that we have is getting landing rights on the outbound leg into several countries and we've contacted many of these countries and they'll take our aircraft in, but they want assurances from the State Department that they can do it. And it's not just our efforts that are running into this roadblock. | ||
| It's also all the other groups that I just, uh, you know, that I just mentioned. | ||
| But let me, let me, but Rick, hang on a second, hang on a second. | ||
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Sure. | |
| The State Department and others are saying, and by the way, we're a big believer that anybody, obviously American citizens have to come out if they want to come out. | ||
| Also, people that work with us, commandos, interpreters, et cetera, but should stay in the region. | ||
| No need, absolutely 100% should not come here to the United States. | ||
| But here's the question. | ||
| I think State Department's saying this. | ||
| What they're saying is that there's been no vetting of these people. | ||
| When you say it's an improved manifest, what do you mean by that? | ||
| Because they're saying, hey, these are unvetted people that even the quasi-vetted came out already. | ||
| These are unvetted. | ||
| And that's why they're telling people in the region, hey, we have no idea who these folks on the plane are. | ||
| And so that's why you shouldn't let them into your country. | ||
| Your response? | ||
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First off, there's a very large group of people that they've already taken off of their field that weren't vetted either. | |
| They don't know really who they are. | ||
| We've done our utmost to get documentation as far as passports, green cards, CIV packages, and so forth, and that was submitted. | ||
| You're right, you can't be 100% sure of actually all that you're bringing in. | ||
| And, you know, our goal is not to bring them directly here to the United States unless they are a United States citizen or a green card holder. | ||
| We want to go into the refugee processing centers where they'll be properly cared for, properly screened and properly processed. | ||
| And we're not getting that cooperation. | ||
| Okay, so you're focused on citizens and green card holders, others you're just taking to the region to be processed, and of course all of us have concerns. | ||
| My biggest concern is that, you know, for the Trump administration, the blue and green, you know, those are the most vetted guys. | ||
| These are commandos and inner circle guys. | ||
| The biggest problem we had was blue and green assassinations, people shooting American soldiers in the back. | ||
| But let me go, do you agree with McCall? | ||
| Is there even the beginning of a hostage situation in Afghanistan where the Taliban is holding back green card holders or American citizens until they negotiate some sort of recognition or more cash? | ||
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Well, I can tell you from my personal experience, we haven't had that experience yet. | |
| As far as the Taliban, and I hate to say it, have actually been quite cooperative. | ||
| Yes, there are tremendous dangers, For our people that we have in our rat line to run. | ||
| And we just, you know, even this morning, this morning, we got a family out this morning. | ||
| One of our command, one of our groups read by Corey. | ||
| I'm not going to give you his last name. | ||
| But, you know, he got the family of four out this morning. | ||
| And I've shared that picture with you, by the way. | ||
| So you know who they are. | ||
| And, you know, the it is at some point, it's going to turn into that. | ||
| You know, Mr. Bannon, these people are going to become commodities. | ||
| And they're going to be used for leverage. | ||
| And confusion can be your best friend at times. | ||
| And right now, there's a window there that we have. | ||
| We're still in that window, but it's closing. | ||
| When we can start getting people out that are passport holders, that are green card holders, that are HVTs. | ||
| We've been, our group has actually been responsible, directly or indirectly, for getting over 2,000 people out. | ||
| We've gotten many Christian families out. | ||
| We've gotten many HVTs out. | ||
| The list of people originally grew from zero to, when I submitted the information to the Department of State, it was 4,800 people. | ||
| And that was two days ago. | ||
| We're now up to 6,000 people right now. | ||
| They're HVT, most of them are HVTs. | ||
| But we have a lot of, we have citizens and we have green card holders. | ||
| And we just identified 15 citizens yesterday. | ||
| When you say HVT, you mean high value target, that these will be targeted by the radical Islamists in Afghanistan? | ||
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Yes, sir. | |
| Those are people that have worked for government contractors, government agencies, the NATO companies, a lot of countries. | ||
| A lot of people forget there was a NATO contention there. | ||
| Those people are in great danger. | ||
| I even have a full embassy staff that's on my manifest. | ||
| I'm not going to tell you which country it's from, but I don't want that public, but we have a full embassy staff that's on our manifest. | ||
| Rick, we've got to bounce. | ||
| Is there any site that people can go to to find out more about this? | ||
| This is quite controversial. | ||
| Remember, the people are very concerned about this refugee situation here in the States, where the State Department is blowing people by here, virtually unvetted. | ||
| They say it's vetted, but how can you do this quickly? | ||
| The most vetted people we ever had, many of them turned on the United States and were shooting soldiers in the back in this blue-on-green situation. | ||
| It's very, very, very, very tough. | ||
| But is there a site they can go to, or how do they get more information about this dilemma? | ||
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They can go to any one of these sites. | |
| We're getting, actually, my group's actually getting our site up right now. | ||
| We were more dedicated and more focused on extraction. | ||
| We really wasn't looking for public notice. | ||
| That's just happened in the last 24 hours. | ||
| But we'll have our site up here soon. | ||
| But you can go to all these different other sites of these groups, like Pineapple Express and Dunkirk and so forth. | ||
| And that's where you need to go. | ||
| And eventually, you're going to get to me. | ||
| You know, they, they, we all share our resources together, you know, and aircraft, ground crews, rat lines, intelligence. | ||
| And we share this also with several agencies, most agencies that we're dealing with, are being cooperative State Department's the blocker block right now. | ||
| It's, it's unbelievable. | ||
| Right now. | ||
| All right, sir. | ||
| Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much for joining us. We got a bounce, but we'll get as soon as you get your site up. Let us know. We'll put it up and we'll drive. We'll drive people a digital Dunkirk and Pineapple Express. Thank you, sir. | ||
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All right, sir. Thank you. | |
| Mayor. Thank you, Mayor Giuliani. Thoughts about this extraction process and what McCall said about hostages or potential hostages in Afghanistan and the Biden the Biden administration's handling of this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We don't have Rudy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Here's the situation is that you have many different, by the way, we just lost Mayor Giuliani. | ||
| We're going to get him back here momentarily. | ||
| Here's the point. | ||
| It's very controversial. | ||
| We have, you know, the Pineapple Express. | ||
| And remember, these are all Former special operators. | ||
| You've got a lot of, you know, CIA paramilitary. | ||
| You've got a lot of pipe hitters. | ||
| You've got a lot of special forces. | ||
| These are people that are working with people that they knew and are close to to try to get them out. | ||
| They've been abandoned by the Biden administration. | ||
| So, Rudy, I don't know how much of Rick Clay's you heard. | ||
| But McCall's saying on Fox yesterday that there's a hostage situation or potential hostage situation. | ||
| We've got a couple of minutes in this segment. | ||
| What are your thoughts? | ||
| As Mike describes it, of course it's a hostage situation right now. | ||
| It may be a short-term one, but I mean, this would be like two people in a bank holding up a bank, and they're holding these people in order to be let out. | ||
| So, sure, this is a hostage situation. | ||
| So what's your recommendation of what should be done about it? | ||
| I've got about a minute and a half because it's very controversial. | ||
| We know that these people are relatively unvetted coming here to the United States. | ||
| I don't care what the State Department is saying. | ||
| It's so difficult to vet on the run. | ||
| As far as I can tell, we brought in all the wrong Afghanis. | ||
| We brought in 50,000 that haven't gotten visas and haven't been pre-vetted. | ||
| And the ones that are vetted, almost none are getting in. | ||
| And some of the people we brought in, it turns out, are married to underage children. | ||
| Some of them actually raped some of the girls on the way here. | ||
| So it looks like we brought in exactly, you know, the Biden problem. | ||
| Everything's done incompetently. | ||
| But in the case of these people, supposedly they're green card holders and vetted people. | ||
| It sounds like they're people we do want here. | ||
| And at this point, as long as they're holding them and they want something from us, let's say it's recognition, that is exactly a hostage situation. | ||
| And is it short term? | ||
| Let's hope. | ||
| But it's exactly what everyone predicted Taliban would do when Biden insanely took out the troops and then left the civilians to the tender mercies of one of the worst terrorist groups in the world. | ||
| And all this stuff about Taliban changing its strides, just ignore it. | ||
| Forget it. | ||
| It's a fantasy. | ||
| Rudy, just hang on for one second. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to come back with Mayor Giuliani. | ||
| Hopefully our technical problems worked out. | ||
| Mayor Giuliani is going to rejoin us. | ||
| Talk about he accused Biden of treason the other day. | ||
| Also go back to the 90s, the forerunner of 9-11 on the rise of Rudy Giuliani when he was running for mayor. | ||
| All next in the War Room. | ||
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| I want to bring back in Mayor Giuliani. | ||
| Okay, Mayor, a couple things. | ||
| You were quite controversial You got a lot of pickup the other day on the show. | ||
| I want to go back to this and make sure that... I want to do two things in this segment. | ||
| Number one, it's the run-up to 9-11, the 20th anniversary. | ||
| You were obviously central to that. | ||
| We're going to be doing specials with you every day, talking to you about elements of that. | ||
| I'm going to go back to the 90s today, to the predecessor of the attack on 9-11. | ||
| But before I do that, I've got to go back to you one more time. | ||
| In your reasoned opinion, Do you believe Joe Biden is guilty of treason and should be impeached immediately on those charges of treason? | ||
| I would say there's certainly, I have to put it this way. | ||
| There's a case to be made and a case to be investigated. | ||
| If this were a Republican president and a Democrat Congress, they would have begun an investigation for impeachment. | ||
| The day after it happened. | ||
| You and I have no doubt about that. | ||
| And it would be probably the most substantial one they've ever begun. | ||
| Because technically he's violated the constitutional provision. | ||
| First of all, it requires you being at war. | ||
| Well, he did it while he claims we were at war with the Taliban. | ||
| War wasn't over until we left. | ||
| While we were at war, we gave them an airbase. | ||
| We gave them an airbase filled with billions of dollars in armaments. | ||
| We gave them a list of our people and then also the Afghanis who helped us. | ||
| That's a kill list. | ||
| It's like giving it to the Nazis. | ||
| I can go on and on. | ||
| So you can't aid an enemy of the United States. | ||
| That's all aid to an enemy of the United States. | ||
| You're saying he aided and abetted our enemies and you're saying Elise is worthy of an investigation, a deep investigation on a number of charges. | ||
| Before I turn to another topic, however, I remember you and I used to have long conversations. | ||
| This show started back in October of 19 as war of impeachment. | ||
| Right before we segue to the pandemic. | ||
| I remember we would have you on many times, and you warned the American people about the politicization and weaponization of the impeachment process. | ||
| And remember, the whole trumped up charges regarding President Trump in the first impeachment. | ||
| You warned us about weaponizing the impeachment process for things just like this. | ||
| But the first is a pretty big farce was about the inter essentially the interagency process that President Trump did not kowtow as commander in chief To this Vindman interagency process with these whistleblowers all this nonsense and you warned us about Weaponizing the impeachment process for things just like this How would how would you weigh and measure that you're warning about the weaponization and over? | ||
| politicization of it versus your charges against Joe Biden today for investigation I I would rather not have an impeachment. | ||
| However, I think we're dealing with a situation that just because the Democrats misused it, we can't be denied the use of it when something is seriously harmful to the United States. | ||
| Maybe even more serious is he should be removed under the 25th Amendment. | ||
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The man is manifestly... Yeah, but hold, but hang on, but hold, hold. | |
| Don't delay. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| I got 25th Amendment put aside, but what about the impeachment process and about the weaponization of it? | ||
| I think you have to do it. | ||
| This is serious enough so that an American president who, maybe he's doing it because he's mentally incompetent, but we don't know that, and then he can defend himself that way. | ||
| But the reality is he could let an American president give away billions of dollars in dangerous armaments to a mortal enemy of the United States without taking note of it and doing something about it. | ||
| I just want to make sure that, because this is, you know, a lot of people are covering this. | ||
| You believe it's worthy of an investigation for a potential impeachment of him on doing a formal investigation to see if he aided in comfort, if it was aid and comfort to the enemy during a time of war. | ||
| That's your theory of the case, correct? | ||
| And the aid and comfort is letting them get billions of dollars in arms that they are right now using to kill people who are either Okay, Rudy, I want to pivot now and go back. | ||
| The same war. | ||
| We're fighting radical jihad. | ||
| A lot of people like it just go away, but it's not just going to go away. | ||
| Let's go back to the early 90s. | ||
| Not our audience, because our audience is up to speed on things, but there's a lot of people out there that don't realize there was really a precedent set in 9-11. | ||
| Every day we run up to 9-11, we're going to have Mayor Giuliani on, America's Mayor, who was so central to that event. | ||
| Ten years before, almost ten years before, they tried another attack on the World Trade Center, and it was one you were running for mayor. | ||
| Walk us through what happened in the early 90s. | ||
| What became of it? | ||
| And why did we not use it as a warning to protect the World Trade Center better? | ||
| I mean, you can almost say that we've come up with two policies for dealing with terrorism. | ||
| One would be called the Progressive Democratic Party policy. | ||
| The other would be the Republican policy. | ||
| So in 1993, under Bill Clinton, the World Trade Center was attacked. | ||
| The attempt was to bring it down. | ||
| It was attacked by a radical A Muslim group with ties, possibly to Al Qaeda, we're not absolutely sure, but ties to extremists and they were located in a mosque in New Jersey. | ||
| They blew up the World Trade Center. | ||
| They killed a certain number of people. | ||
| They did, I wouldn't say minor damage, but they certainly didn't bring it down. | ||
| The response of Clinton was to deal with it as a criminal justice matter. | ||
| They brought the people to trial. | ||
| And they put them in jail for 100 years. | ||
| That was a very, very ill-thought-out response to a group of insane terrorist murderers. | ||
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And then, of course, we got attacked several times. | |
| Rudy, hang on a second. | ||
| I just want people to understand. | ||
| They took car bombs into the parking deck below the World Trade Center. | ||
| Their theory was they thought they had enough explosives to blow up the... Correct. | ||
| Just like what happened in Miami with the parking garage collapse and the whole building came down. | ||
| They thought they would blow up the parking garage and the entire weight of the building would bring down... their intent was to bring down the entire World Trade Center. | ||
| Much like what happened in the Miami condo, when the bottom... when the parking deck collapsed, the whole building collapsed, their theory back in 93 was to take a car bomb they thought was big enough to implode the parking deck and the weight of the World Trade Center would bring the World Trade Center down. | ||
| Is that basically what they were trying to do? | ||
| Is that actually correct? | ||
| From all their plans, did they... | ||
| that came out of the trials. | ||
| The answer is yes, they were arrested, they were prosecuted, and they were given very, very strict sentences. | ||
| But it did not deter them for the next seven years to continue to plan how to do that more effectively. | ||
| And then, of course, at that point, al Qaeda started to emerge more and more prominently. | ||
| And bin Laden launched two attacks on Americans, including on the coal. | ||
| And again, how did we deal with that? | ||
| We dealt with that. | ||
| We arrested some of those people, and we brought them to trial in the Southern District of New York. | ||
| That trial was going on during September 11. | ||
| People don't remember that six months before September 11, I was asked by the FBI to close off certain areas of New York. | ||
| I had to close off the area around the federal courthouse. | ||
| I had to close off the area around City Hall. | ||
| I had to close off the area around the Stock Exchange. | ||
| I think possibly one or two others. | ||
| We never actually gave the reason for that. | ||
| The New York Times, with its usual kindness toward me, accused me of being, I don't know, some kind of fascist, I guess. | ||
| I didn't want people in City Hall. | ||
| I tried to explain that any mayor loves to have people in City Hall. | ||
| I wouldn't do this for no reason. | ||
| But possibly one of the reasons that focused them back on New York was the fact that some of their people are on trial there. | ||
| Although a lot of it was to complete the job that was not done effectively. | ||
| And it was a very well thought out attack. | ||
| I mean, you see how long they planned it. | ||
| And there was a symbolism to it. | ||
| The symbolism was to take out our main sources of power to dispirit us, to kill our morale, to take out our financial center, to take out our political center, to take out our military center, which is how they conceived of the World Trade Center, the Congress and the Pentagon. | ||
| Let me go back to 93 for a second. | ||
| I want to stay on this. | ||
| The blind shake, wasn't it proven at trial that they had many people, the thing was initiated, and many cooperators here in the United States already? | ||
| Yes, sure. | ||
| I mean, they were an imported operation, unlike the group, imported meaning for some period of time, unlike the group of 19 or 20 that came here ultimately from Saudi Arabia. | ||
| But training by the Taliban in Afghanistan. | ||
| I mean, they came in just for the purpose of doing the airplane attack. | ||
| The Blind Sheikhs group were actually pretty well established in New Jersey as a mosque. | ||
| They were a radical mosque. | ||
| They were well known as a radical mosque. | ||
| And they planned that for some time. | ||
| Mayor, can you hang on for one second? | ||
| We want to go through break and continue with you. | ||
| Okay, we've got Mayor Rudy Giuliani, America's Mayor. | ||
| He really rose to, he'd already been in national prominence because of his time as a prosecutor. | ||
| He put away the five families, broke the five families in New York City, the Mafia. | ||
| He also put away the Wall Street Mafia of Mike Milken and Ivan Boesky and those guys put them all in jail. | ||
| It was when he was running for mayor That this hit on the World Trade Center took place and really took him to the entire next level because he had a very deep understanding of this and Mayor Dinkins did not. | ||
| So we're going to have a short commercial break and we'll be back. | ||
| Every day we're going to do a run-up to 9-11, the 20th anniversary of one of the most sacred and profound days in American history. | ||
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| I want to go back to Mayor Giuliani. | ||
| Mayor, we'll talk about post 9-11 over the next couple of days, but pre-9-11, after this attack, I just want the audience to understand, it's not that they stopped. | ||
| They kept coming. | ||
| You as mayor thwarted many potential terrorist attacks, correct? | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| I mean, we doubled or tripled the number of police officers assigned to the Terrorism Task Force. | ||
| We already had in New York, it was established back in the 1970s because of the bombings we had then. | ||
| We already had, I think we had the first joint anti-terrorism task force in the country, FBI police officers. | ||
| And I had a lot of familiarity with it because I prosecuted their case with a U.S. | ||
| attorney. | ||
| They worked for the federal government. | ||
| So I assigned, I immediately, when I came into office, I doubled the number of police officers assigned, but then I tripled it. | ||
| And I began a mayor's office of emergency management, which you never had before. | ||
| Their specific role was to train us for the new emergencies, meaning sarin gas, anthrax, smallpox, as well as, you know, suicide bombings. | ||
| It's probably the best thing I did because those people are the reason that our people 2001 knew what they were doing. | ||
| I mean, they, they, they might remember anthrax hit us a month later, they were ready for the evacuation of the building was described by the 9-11 Commission as one of the best in American history. | ||
| And but every day, we were we were training. | ||
| We had numerous aborted attacks, some aborted overseas, by the CIA, some aborted here by the FBI, and some aborted here by the police and the FBI together. | ||
| The most dramatic was a guy who was stalking the subway. | ||
| A rookie police officer thought he was suspicious because he was watching the trains go by and walking back and forth, seemingly measuring where things were happening. | ||
| So he followed the guy home. | ||
| He went to see his sergeant. | ||
| He's a rookie. | ||
| And he says, I think this guy may be a spy, but a bomber. | ||
| But I, you know, the guy looks Arabic. | ||
| I hate to sound like I'm a racist. | ||
| And the sergeant said, let's call in the task force. | ||
| Task force comes in. | ||
| They work all night. | ||
| They show him pictures. | ||
| He spots the guy. | ||
| They go get a warrant. | ||
| They go to where the guy is. | ||
| They break in FBI and police together. | ||
| And as they open up the door of his room, the guy is jumping out of bed and jumping for a toggle switch that has a whole bunch of explosives around it. | ||
| So in lieu of taking down the subway platform the next day, he was going to take down a giant apartment building. | ||
| And they killed that guy right on the spot. | ||
| That's probably our most traumatic. | ||
| Then we had others we never told anybody about. | ||
| I mean, if they didn't leak, we didn't tell people. | ||
| So let me ask you, you got- But every single day that I was in the office, I expected a terrorist attack. Every single day. I never, I kept my clothes next to me if I had to get up in the middle of the night. | ||
| So Mayor, Bill Clinton, so you had an active, aggressive policy about this, and of course the military response was, the paramilitary response after 9-11 was aggressive, at least initially, very aggressive. | ||
| Bill Clinton decided to go through a legal process. | ||
| Is there any comparison to Biden now and Clinton as far as, Clinton's thing was pretty feckless, right? | ||
| Andy McCarthy, I think, was your lead prosecutor. | ||
| Andy McCarthy and the guys did a great job, but Clinton was obviously pretty feckless. | ||
| That actually makes the point. | ||
| They got the maximum you can get out of the criminal justice system. | ||
| It's not as if they got a lower charge or they got what they all got, you know, life imprisonment, basically. | ||
| And so they got the maximum sentences, but they laughed at that. | ||
| And then they laughed at Clinton's responses. | ||
| He would bomb empty field the way Biden uses drones and he kills some guy. | ||
| We don't even know who he is. | ||
| He's so unimportant. | ||
| They can't even give us his name. | ||
| And to me, That was just, I've been dealing with Islamic terrorism since Arafat and in the 1970s. | ||
| To me, this was like a disaster. | ||
| I used to complain about it. | ||
| I used to even talk about it. | ||
| You got to hit them harder than they hit you. | ||
| You got to hit them back so they really feel it. | ||
| And when Bin Laden started to emerge, I could see it coming. | ||
| I didn't think he would do what he did. | ||
| But we had been warned of bin Laden attacks two years before he actually attacked. | ||
| I was against their putting the trial in the Southern District. | ||
| And of course they used it. | ||
| They were all my pals then. | ||
| And they used that against me. | ||
| They said, if you were the U.S. | ||
| attorney, you'd take it to the Southern District because you'd say you're the only one who can convict them. | ||
| And I said, I don't know. | ||
| I think it'd be better if you did this someplace, you know, more open where you can protect it. | ||
| Certainly not the most crowded city in the country because they're going to come here and do something. | ||
| Then they told me to close off about 30 streets in New York. | ||
| Mayor, we've got to bounce. | ||
| The podcast this week, I'm sure, is going to be very special. | ||
| Your radio show. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It'll be about September 11th. | ||
| With people who were with me and people who were eyewitnesses to the event. | ||
| And they'll describe things about it that we didn't know before. | ||
| And I found a photographer who, although his photographs have been shown, He's never actually described what he saw. | ||
| So how do people get to the podcast? | ||
| Your radio shows at what time? | ||
| Rudy's Common Sense dot com. | ||
| It'll it'll be on this week at five o'clock on Monday, Wednesday, Friday. | ||
| Rudy's Common Sense dot com. | ||
| And then I'm on the radio on W.A.V.C. | ||
| Radio dot com. | ||
| And each day this week, it'll be about September 11th and then Friday and Saturday. | ||
| The whole day, the radio station's gonna be devoted to September 11th, talking to the fire people, police people, the FBI people who were involved. | ||
| Mayor, and what's your social media handles? | ||
| Just Rudy Giuliani on Twitter and Facebook and... Okay, sir. | ||
| Thank you very much, Mayor. | ||
| We'll look forward to having you back here tomorrow. | ||
| We'll be back with you. | ||
| I mean, there's... This is the roughest Memorial of September 11 I've ever experienced. | ||
| Even worse than the first one. | ||
| Largely because I went down there and I keep thinking we're back where we started. | ||
| How could we be possibly back where we started? | ||
| I think it's actually we're worse. | ||
| I think we're back. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| I agree with you, Steve. | ||
| I believe we're worse, but certainly you can't dispute the fact that the Taliban was in charge then. | ||
| Helped them to plan it. | ||
| The Taliban is in charge now. | ||
| And we got a Secretary of Defense who thinks they should be partners. | ||
| Partners? | ||
| Disgraceful. | ||
| Mayor, thank you very much for taking time away. | ||
| I know you're incredibly busy to join us here in the War Room. | ||
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| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| You do a great job. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Mayor Rudy Giuliani, America's Mayor. | ||
| Okay, let's play. | ||
| We got Chris Hayes. | ||
| He's giving his opinion to Dan Schultz, our next guest. | ||
| Let's play some Chris Hayes. | ||
| not end on January 6th, and how Republican lawmakers are laying the groundwork to overturn the next election. But a new report by ProPublica reveals how that effort is manifesting itself in unexpected ways. They report that the urging of former Trump adviser and pardon recipient Steve Bannon and others, thousands of Trump supporters have taken over local election positions in swing states across the country. | ||
| According to the report, quote, the new movement is built entirely around Trump's insistence that the electoral system failed in 2020 and that Republicans can't let it happen again. | ||
| The result is a nationwide groundswell of party activists whose central goal is not merely to win elections, but to reshape their machinery. | ||
| They feel President Trump was rightfully elected president and was taken from him, said Michael Barnett, the GOP chairman in Palm Beach County, Florida, who has enthusiastically added 90 executive committee members this year. | ||
| They feel their involvement in upcoming elections will prevent something like that from happening again. | ||
| So what does this mean for the upcoming 2022-2024 elections? | ||
| Isaac Arnsdorf is one of the pro-publica reporters who broke this story, and he joins me now. | ||
| Isaac, it's a great piece of reporting. | ||
| First, let's just start with Bannon's role in all this, what he has been kind of fomenting explicitly that people have heeded the call for. | ||
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The idea here is that because the 2020 election was stolen, Trump's supporters need to take over the Republican Party to prevent that from happening again. | |
| And people listening are probably thinking, well, wait a minute, take over the Republican Party? | ||
| Doesn't Trump already control the Republican Party? | ||
| But according to this version of history, the reason that Trump isn't president anymore was not just the widespread fraud. | ||
| That was just the beginning. | ||
| But the second piece is that Trump was sold out by the Republican Party, by the state legislators who didn't throw the electoral college votes to Trump. | ||
| By the Republican members of Congress who didn't vote to overturn the Electoral College results on January 6th. | ||
| By the senators who voted, by the members of Congress who voted to impeach him for inciting the insurrection. | ||
| And the people like Brad Raffensperger in Georgia, who certified these election results that Trump insisted was fraudulent. | ||
| And so the idea here is that they need to take over the party from the bottom up, from the local level, giving them the power to elect the party officers higher up the chain, at the county, district, state, and national level. | ||
| They need to get rid of everyone like Brad Raffensperger, who doesn't agree that the election was stolen. | ||
| And they need to use these party powers to pass new voting restrictions, like the laws in Georgia and Arizona. | ||
| To have more audits like the one in Arizona. | ||
| To expand the role of Republican-controlled state legislatures in running elections and controlling the outcome of elections. | ||
| And the way that they do this is through these precinct positions, which, you know, most voters have probably never heard of before. | ||
| But these are just the lowest level positions in the party organization. | ||
| And they're the worker bees of the party, so to speak. | ||
| They're the ground game. | ||
| They're the field organization. | ||
| They're knocking on doors. | ||
| They're making phone calls. | ||
| But not only that, they have these formal powers that give them a direct role in how elections are run. | ||
| And the details are a little bit different in every state, but sometimes it's picking the poll workers. | ||
| Sometimes it's picking the members of the boards that oversee the elections. | ||
| Sometimes it's having a say in who actually gets on the ballot, either because they're collecting signatures or because they're voting directly in nominating conventions instead of public primaries. | ||
| So this was the plan that Bannon highlighted in February. | ||
| And after he put it on his podcast, which is one of the most popular podcasts on Apple, it has tens of millions of downloads. | ||
| And after Steve Bannon's podcast featured this, it went viral all across far-right media. | ||
| And I don't mean Fox News and Facebook. | ||
| I mean about people like Steve Bannon, Michael Flynn, Lin Wood, Sidney Powell, sites like Telegram and Gab and QAnon talk shows. | ||
| And this became the thing that everyone was talking about it. | ||
| But the key thing is they weren't just talking about it on the Internet. | ||
| Thousands of people actually went out and did it. | ||
| And so what we found by calling around to dozens of key counties in competitive states, we're talking about the states that decide presidential elections and who controls Congress. | ||
| Arizona, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. | ||
| And we asked these county chairs, hey, all of a sudden, are tons of people calling you asking to be precinct officials? | ||
| And mostly they said, yeah, we've never seen anything like this before. | ||
| And sometimes they frankly had no idea why it was happening. | ||
| And sometimes they figured out that it was because of this viral episode of Steve Bannon's podcast. | ||
| Okay, they ain't seen nothing yet. | ||
| Everybody should be very proud. | ||
| They're on to you, and they're on to your power. | ||
| Dan Schultz and The Worm next. | ||
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| Okay, they had a big event down in Brazil with Bolsonaro. | ||
| Jason Miller was spending time with him. | ||
| We'll have more about that tonight on the 5 o'clock show. | ||
| By the way, two hours tonight, 5 o'clock to 6, 6 to 7. | ||
| We've got so much going on this week. | ||
| It's just packed. | ||
| Real America's Voice is nice enough to give us another hour, so make sure two hours of packed action tonight. | ||
| I want to turn to Dan Schultz. | ||
| Dan, you've got the left-wing media in complete, total meltdown. | ||
| We want everybody to understand this is just the start. | ||
| We need everybody. | ||
| And here's the thing, it doesn't cost you any money. | ||
| You do not have to be a donor and you don't need to be a donor. | ||
| What you need to do is put your shoulder to the wheel and sign up. | ||
| Dan Schultz, walk people through. | ||
| By the way, you're not always welcome with open arms when you show up to these meetings, but Dan, walk people through exactly what it means to be a precinct committeeman. | ||
| Why is it so important? | ||
| Because the left-wing media understands it and they're in total meltdown. | ||
| They do not want MAGA. | ||
| To have any real political power. | ||
| Dan Schultz. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| I don't know if you have the graphic ready to go or not, but I sent one number 47 that sort of lays out the difference between just being a registered voter and being a precinct committeeman. | ||
| And the reason precinct committeeman are so important is that they are the party. | ||
| If you don't have precinct committeeman, there's no party. | ||
| Prison committeemen elect everybody in the party. | ||
| They're the apparatus of the party. | ||
| They elect the people who become the state chairman. | ||
| They elect the electors of the state chairman. | ||
| They elect the electors of the national committeeman and national committee woman. | ||
| Each state, five territories, and D.C. | ||
| have three members on the RNC. | ||
| And we've got to change the RNC and turn it into a America first RNC. | ||
| And there's only one way to do that. | ||
| And that is by invading our party and taking it over. | ||
| You know, I've got my citizen's rule book here. | ||
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It's kind of worn because I read it a lot. | |
| And you know, the preamble to the constitution says, we, the people in bold, big letters that we ordained And established this Constitution. | ||
| Now we have to enforce it. | ||
| We have to elect people who really take their oath of office seriously. | ||
| And we've elected too many Republicans who don't take it seriously. | ||
| Who, frankly, have never read the Constitution. | ||
| And instead we're electing people also like AOC. | ||
| Remember after she got elected? | ||
| She infamously said, Now I'm the boss. | ||
| No, you're an elected representative of the people and you're supposed to make sure that the Constitution gets followed. | ||
| So the other thing that precinct committeemen do is they're instrumental in the primary elections. | ||
| That's the most important election to an incumbent. | ||
| They have to win two elections. | ||
| First, they have to come back to their district or their state. | ||
| Let's say they're a U.S. | ||
| Senator. | ||
| And they have to win that primary. | ||
| A lot of times these primary elections, I know in Mississippi and Texas, sometimes the primary has 9% turnout of Republicans, 11%. | ||
| If you boost turnout in each precinct, if we conservatives become precinct committeemen and boost turnout of those lower information, lower propensity voters who don't normally vote in the primary, we can defeat incumbents. | ||
| And I've done that for a candidate here. | ||
| I did it in 2016. | ||
| Uh, his last name is, was Schmuck. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| With a last name of Schmuck, we still beat the incumbent and was in a landslide because we had a ground game using precinct committee men and other volunteers to boost turnout. | ||
| So it can be done. | ||
| So if you go to my site, precinctstrategy.com, precinctstrategy.com. | ||
| I've got something there. | ||
| And what do people get? | ||
| We've got about two minutes. | ||
| When people go to the site, just walk them through right now what they can do to become a precinct committeeman. | ||
| Well, first, what they're going to get is an explanation of why they need to become a precinct committeeman. | ||
| It's here. | ||
| It's a strategy. | ||
| This is a word that people on the right don't use very much. | ||
| Strategy. | ||
| This is a strategy. | ||
| And what you'll find when you get there is an explanation of the strategy. | ||
| This is 7th grade civics, okay? | ||
| I learned all of this in 7th grade. | ||
| And I have a little book that explains it all that you can buy if you want to. | ||
| But I've got something for every state, all 50 states. | ||
| And then I'm also building a communications platform with my friend Robert Beatles, who connected with me because of my appearance on War Room. | ||
| He watches War Room. | ||
| He saw me, interviewed me, and when he found out that we don't have a communications platform for conservatives, the party won't give us one. | ||
| They could, but they'll never do it. | ||
| So we started building our own. | ||
| So there's a button there as well that you can click on and go and sign up for this. | ||
| And we vet you coming in. | ||
| Only conservatives are allowed in. | ||
| So we're building that. | ||
| You'll be able to chat with other conservatives in your state, find like bylaws and Other documents that are helpful, application forms to become a precinct committeeman, etc. | ||
| That's there. | ||
| And there's something, like I said, there for all 50 states at my site. | ||
| So you can learn the basics, learn the terminology, because it's not called precinct committeeman in every state. | ||
| Some it's precinct delegate. | ||
| Washington and Oregon, it's precinct committee officer. | ||
| Some states, you're just a member of the party. | ||
| It's not called precinct committee. | ||
| So you've got to learn the terminology and then find your local party committee. | ||
| Some states don't have county committees. | ||
| And find it and go there and say, I want to volunteer. | ||
| This week we're going to have the success stories. | ||
| There's so many people that have come to us with these great stories of success. | ||
| They've had to fight once they've got their success. | ||
| Dan, thank you very much. | ||
| Everybody go to precinctstrategy.com right now. | ||
| Power into this. | ||
| Make the Wolof meltdown even more. | ||
| We're going to be back at 5 o'clock. | ||
| Remember, big day today. | ||
| 9.8 million people coming off the unemployment rolls. | ||
| The financial situation in this country is going to get even worse. | ||
| Biden is scrambling. | ||
| The whole drill is to get back and spend $6 trillion. | ||
| Authorized to spend $6 trillion to transform this nation so that we can't get it back on track again. | ||
| We're going to stop all that. | ||
| You're going to hear how we're going to stop it today at 5 o'clock. | ||
| Join us back in the War Room. | ||
| Until then, we'll see you. |
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