Sept. 6, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| He definitely understood how to use this age-old Daughters of the Confederacy style of politics to get people at the lowest, lowest level on board and start to recruit them from the school board on up. | ||
| Talk to us about that strategy and how closely it's aligned to MAGA or is it somehow separate or are they sort of fused at this point? | ||
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You know, Joe, I feel like you and I have been having this conversation for, like, five years now. | |
| And I've oftentimes said that when someone avails themselves to you, it's best to take them at face value. | ||
| I remember back in, I think it was in 2016, when Steve Bannon declared that he was a Leninist, someone who wanted to destroy the state. | ||
| He said, that's my goal, too. | ||
| I want to bring everything crashing down and destroy all of today's establishment. | ||
| Well, look around, because that's exactly what happened right now. | ||
| And it almost feels like at times that Bannon is taking a playbook from Al-Qaeda and terrorists and inflicting guerrilla warfare at the lowest, at the local level, to try to raise it on up and come for all of us. | ||
| And we've been talking about this for so long. | ||
| It's systemic. | ||
| They start at the local level. | ||
| They entrench themselves in school boards, in city councils, in party, local party apparatuses. | ||
| And they are going to infect the entire election process. | ||
| That's their goal. | ||
| Democracy doesn't die in darkness, Joy. | ||
| It's happening in broad daylight, and they're taking out a big billboard saying, this is what our plan is, and this is what we're going to do. | ||
| Yeah, let me read a little bit from this ProPublica article, and it talks about the fact that heeding Steve Bannon's call, election deniers organized to seize control of the GOP and reshape America's elections. | ||
| Here's the quote. | ||
| ProPublica contacted GOP leaders in 65 counties, and 41 reported an unusual increase in signups since Bannon's campaign began. | ||
| We also looked at equivalent Democratic posts and found no similar surge. | ||
| So Rachel, this is sort of an unequal playing field right now and I've complained about this for much longer than I've even known Kurt. I've been complaining about this since I started working in politics in 2004. | ||
| Democrats tend to ignore local elections, ignore things like prosecutor elections and school boards while Republicans are all over that. | ||
| It's not an even war because their strategy and the infrastructure, the people, the party apparatuses that they've deployed. | ||
| their sort of grassroots right-wingers from the ground up. | ||
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What do you make of this really not an even war at this point? That's exactly right. It's not an even war because their strategy and the infrastructure, the people, the party apparatuses that they've deployed, these are things that they set into motion back in the 1980s where they mapped out strategic plans to infiltrate politics at the place where rules get made, right? | |
| Because that's really important for people to understand. | ||
| Behavior is, of course, my bread and butter, but behavior is conditioned by rules. | ||
| And the Republican Party figured out after the Brennan or the Berker, I'm sorry, the court, Warren Court in the 60s, that they needed to tweak rules if they wanted to hold on to, you know, really what is white power hegemony, white male power hegemony. | ||
| Bannon is Of course, you know, one of these aggrieved white male supremacists that has unfortunately developed through, you know, the use of rhetoric and fear, a really, really powerful platform. | ||
| And now, like what they're doing with the local elections. | ||
| And this is the thing that I kept screaming as I read the ProPublica report, which is an excellent report, but it just is so important to reiterate. | ||
| These people believe the election was stolen, but the election was not stolen. | ||
| They believe there was malfeasance in the electoral process, but there was not malfeasance in the electoral process. | ||
| And what they are doing when they replace these precinct chairs and they purge their local parties and so on and so forth, at least post 2020, is they are attempting to build an apparatus that they can use to discount and refuse to certify legal elections that they lose in the future. | ||
| Yeah, and Cornell, having worked for the Obama campaign, you understand that they believe the elections were stolen because they don't believe it's possible for black and brown people's decisions to hold and to be valid. | ||
| They think that if black people vote, it's got to be some sort of scam and they're voting illegally. | ||
| And they've come to believe that, and they believe that about President Obama, that his election was somehow the result of fraud. | ||
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Well, I think there's a number of variables operating here. | |
| And, Joy, I'll start where you began with President Obama. | ||
| Well, it wasn't just that they thought it was fraudulent. | ||
| At the ballots, it was fraudulent in a much more deeper sense, in that you people who look like you and I aren't real Americans. | ||
| It is about who they value as real Americans. | ||
| So right now when they say, you know, their election was stolen, the election was stolen because people who, quite frankly, they don't value as real Americans are flexing their political power and bringing that power to bear. | ||
| So you can understand a great deal of it from that lens. | ||
| My problem isn't with, quite frankly, with Steve Bannon and what they're trying to do. | ||
| Like, they're clear that they wanna overthrow democracy because democracy is no longer working for them as we see changes happening in this country. | ||
| My problem, quite frankly, is that, you know, it's politics 101, campaign politics 101. | ||
| Persuasion, energize, mobilization. | ||
| You know, the big lie is part of sort of the energizing and take back our country. | ||
| And now he's mobilizing them. | ||
| He's using that energy to mobilize them to action. | ||
| That is Basic politics. | ||
| My problem, Joe, is the majority of Americans don't actually think that Donald Trump won the election. | ||
| In fact, more people voted for Joe Biden than have ever voted for anyone ever in our country. | ||
| And so you have the majority of Americans who actually don't buy into this big lie. | ||
| OK, it's Labor Day Monday, the 6th of September, Year of Our Lord 2021. | ||
| There's a lot of wisdom, a lot of knowledge. | ||
| In that open, I think it was five minutes, from Joy Reid. | ||
| We're going to play later. | ||
| We're going to have Dan Schultz on later. | ||
| We're going to play the Chris Hayes. | ||
| I think for a while on Friday night, after the ProPublica article came out, I think we were trending, not just trending on Twitter, I think that we were trending close to number one for a while, as you saw the left there in total complete meltdown. | ||
| Why the meltdown? | ||
| Because MAGA is actually engaged now. | ||
| They're just not listening to talk radio. | ||
| They're just not watching Fox passively. | ||
| They're actually action, action, action, and using agency. | ||
| There was a lot of vitriol and a lot of rhetoric in that segment. | ||
| I think the segment went on for nine minutes, but it's also a lot of Intelligence. | ||
| They understand exactly what we're doing. | ||
| We are taking over school boards. | ||
| We are taking over the Republican Party at the grassroots level, right? | ||
| And MAGA and America First and the Trump movement wants to get engaged and is going to be engaged now. | ||
| Not just passively sitting there, not just going to rallies, not just going to websites. | ||
| Actively engage in a true populist democracy, which is to get engaged at the local level. | ||
| Get to the local level and take control at the local level. | ||
| Because upon the local level, everything else is built. | ||
| And they're in total meltdown. | ||
| Why? | ||
| They don't want MAGA to have a voice. | ||
| Right? | ||
| They do not want you to have a voice. | ||
| They fear you. | ||
| They fear you like nobody's business. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| They keep throwing out the white nationals, white supremacists. | ||
| Here's the fear. | ||
| The fear is that in the Rio Grande Valley and in other parts around the country, The middle class, working class Hispanics are now going to vote for Trump. | ||
| Almost what, 40%? | ||
| And now in places are going to have, we're going to start winning congressional districts. | ||
| We're going to start winning town councils. | ||
| We're going to start winning, um, you know, school boards with, uh, populist, nationalist, working class, Hispanics and African-Americans. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Big day today, 9.8 million people come off the employment rolls, right? | ||
| Unemployment. | ||
| You've got the Moo variant. | ||
| Haven't heard about the Moo variant? | ||
| Moo variant blowing up in Los Angeles. | ||
| We've got potential McCall saying we've got hostages in Iran. | ||
| American hostages on these planes. | ||
| Rick Clay, one of the individuals trying to get people out of there later. | ||
| And also, complete meltdown. | ||
| The Republican establishment totally runs away from the Texas heartbeat bill. | ||
| The Country Club Republicans run away from this grassroots effort to basically shut down Roe v. Wade. | ||
| So, so much going on here. | ||
| By the way, elections next, on the 14th, Newman's recall election, on the 20th, an election in Canada of which the Conservatives are surging, and because of the pandemic, this is the first test because of the pandemic. | ||
| You see the implosion of Trudeau's government in Canada, also on the 26th. | ||
| Merkel, for the first time in 16 years, not running national elections in Germany. | ||
| With the right trying to surge there. | ||
| So we've got so much tomorrow. | ||
| We're going to have what's happening in Paris over the weekend. | ||
| Absolutely unbelievable. | ||
| Paris and Australia are kind of an indicator of where we could go. | ||
| If we do not throw down the gauntlet right now, we're going to have people on tomorrow about Paris. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| The police activity against the anti-vaxxers and basically the vaccine hesitant in Paris. | ||
| All of that. | ||
| But I want to bring in Darren Beattie. | ||
| He's one of the smartest guys around. | ||
| Runs Revolver. | ||
| One of the best sites, former White House speechwriter. | ||
| So, Darren, first I just want to get your, you put it up, thank you very much, on as one of the lead stories, if not the lead story for a while, just a link to the ProPublica piece. | ||
| And you know how these things go when ProPublica, which is a left-wing, source-backed entity, but has top quality. | ||
| I mean, the best investigative reporters, they basically put them on their payroll and they do deep dives. | ||
| They've been on this story since the first time it came out in, I guess, in March. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Well, I think the article itself calls for congratulations. | ||
| First, congratulations to you for being effective enough that they felt compelled to write this article. | ||
| and then the left's meltdown, and they are literally melting down on this, sir. | ||
| Absolutely. Well, I think the article itself calls for congratulations. First, congratulations to you for being effective enough that they felt compelled to write this article, and secondly, and more importantly, congratulations to your audience, because more than anything, this article exemplifies the juggernaut that is the War Room audience and how effectively it can be mobilized in order to | ||
| push back against everything that's gone on over the past several years. | ||
| And so I think it's actually tremendously encouraging to read an article like that precisely because of what it shows in terms of your effectiveness, the audience's effectiveness, and the broader potential of the MAGA movement. | ||
| As for the Joanne Reid clip, it's absolutely true. | ||
| Organization at the bottom level is crucial. | ||
| I had to kind of scoff at the suggestion that, oh, the The Republicans are so far ahead. | ||
| They're just so sophisticated at operating at the, at the ground level, like other than precious few, including you, I don't see that type of sophistication. | ||
| Whereas on the other side, I see people like George Soros mobilizing district attorney's office across the board. | ||
| And so this idea that they have this, Oh, the Republicans are, these evil Republicans are so effective at mobilizing. | ||
| Well, I wish it were true. It can be true and it will be true if we continue in this direction. | ||
| But if anything, it's us playing catch up. But this is absolutely the type of place we need to look in order to have operational effectiveness on that level and to prevent another steal from happening again. And that leads to the next point, which is that these measures being proposed are not outlandish at all. They're very simple election integrity measures, very simple partisan measures that are available through the democratic process that can ensure election | ||
| integrity. And so the idea that they would compare using the democratic system in order to ensure Electoral integrity, they compared you to Al-Qaeda for helping to facilitate that goes to show not only how unhinged they are, but really how illiterate they are. | ||
| And it's it's part of it's actually offensive to see people at that level, you know, exemplifying such illiteracy. | ||
| But that's basically how the media game goes. | ||
| You know, it's interesting, too, they used Obama. | ||
| Remember, Obama starred as a community organizer, left-wing populist. | ||
| Remember, he was the anti-war populist candidate against Hillary Clinton and the machine back in Iowa when they first ran the tables on him. | ||
| They weren't prepared for that. | ||
| We did take a chapter out of Obama's book. | ||
| This is community organized, no doubt about that. | ||
| And you've got the Right to Life people, you've got the MAGA people, you have the CRT, you've got the moms for Critical Race Theory at the school boards, you've got the Vaccine Hesitant now at the school boards. | ||
| We told you the firestorm was going to be when the kids came back. | ||
| You've got MAGA and America First at every one of these, going to the precinct committee, filling these 200,000 empty billets that doesn't cost you any money. | ||
| Here's the takeaway. | ||
| They absolutely are gobsmacked and stunned that MAGA would get off the couch and now start really mobilizing, and they're scared to death because they understand the massive, massive impact this is going to have on American politics. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to come back With Darren Beattie, he's the founder, editor, publisher of, I guess, Head Cook and Bottle Washer at The Revolver, one of the most prominent and important sites out there. | ||
| He joins us back in the War Room. | ||
| Talk about power of MAGA, not the latent power, the power power of MAGA. | ||
| Next. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, I want to get in all the different platforms, whether it's the forums, the chat rooms, Telegram, Rumble, I want to get all these articles up. | ||
| Our ever-cracked staff here, working on Labor Day Monday. | ||
| And here's the reason. | ||
| I want to make sure... This thing went around the world. | ||
| This article, ProPublica are very, very, very smart and tough people. | ||
| Right? | ||
| They understood something was up, and they drilled down with some of their best people to do this analysis, and they spent a lot of time on this article. | ||
| Then MSNBC and the smart guys on the left picked it up, and they're in freakout mode. | ||
| Why? | ||
| It's not Darren Beatty, it's not Steve Bannon. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Very simple. | ||
| They fear hardworking, taxpaying entrepreneurs that create jobs, you know, the good householder, the good housekeeper, right? | ||
| The good householder in ancient, all ancient philosophy. | ||
| That society is based upon the good householder, right? | ||
| The person that, you know, plays by the rules, creates value, serves their country. | ||
| Here's who's doing this. | ||
| Remember, they don't fear Trump qua Trump. | ||
| to cut basically patriots they so fear you this is cut through but they get around this not country club republicans probably party hasn't done this they fight in this right here's who's doing this grassroots organizations in grassroots people in yourself margin America first this is what they fear remember they don't fear trump quad trump they fear trump because he's the first guy not the room not the deal with this crowd Donald Trump night put you in the room | ||
| He puts you in the room with the toughest smartest negotiator, okay? | ||
| You finally had a representative. | ||
| All this happy talk of Chris Christie and Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio and all that crap, right? | ||
| He put you in the room at the head of the table with, hey, here's the way things are going to be as your representative. | ||
| That's why they hate him. | ||
| That's why they're trying to destroy him, right? | ||
| And that's why they're completely freaked out, totally freaked out about his return, his imminent return. | ||
| I read an article over the weekend about Melania. | ||
| Melania is not going to be involved. | ||
| The implication of that is Trump is going to be back in the White House. | ||
| That's where we're missing the story. | ||
| They're talking about he's in the White House. | ||
| He's not going to be there. | ||
| They're so freaked out and here's why they're freaked out. | ||
| They understand the muscle comes from the people. | ||
| That you're now engaged. | ||
| And actively engaged. | ||
| Not just sitting there listening to talk radio. | ||
| Not just sitting there passively watching Fox. | ||
| That's good in and of itself. | ||
| But that's a Phase 1. | ||
| You're now into Phase 2 and 3, which is showing up and getting in people's grills. | ||
| No, we're just not going to let this stuff run. | ||
| And you're seeing the rot in these institutions at the grassroots level. | ||
| You're seeing the school boards the way they run. | ||
| You're seeing the lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| And every aspect of it. | ||
| And they're freaked out. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Because, at the end of the day, they're the guardians. | ||
| and particularly MSNBC are the guardians of the established order. | ||
| Darren Beattie, thoughts, observations, analysis? | ||
| Well I think it's absolutely true. | ||
| I think the left is extremely proficient at mass mobilization as a tool of exerting political pressure and political influence. | ||
| And precisely because the left is so good at that, they can recognize when it's starting to happen on the right. | ||
| And that's what's happening right now. | ||
| They fear our ability toward mass mobilization. | ||
| And that's really what 2016 was. | ||
| Any resurrection of that is a worst case scenario from the standpoint of corrupt ruling class, the regime, the media, the whole host of crooks who got us in this position. | ||
| And so it's our job to continue this effort of mass mobilization and then take the next step to ensure that we don't just have a bunch of people who are riled up, but we channel that energy in the most efficient and effective way possible. | ||
| And that's that's another crucial element, because you can get a lot of people ginned up and all of that energy just sort of dissipates into a dead end and into nothing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is OK. | ||
| Remember, in 2016, since then, they've deplatformed us from the social media. | ||
| They understand the power of this posse and understand the sophistication of social media. | ||
| They've also now, with the Flynn situation, started to deplatform people from banks, so there's no ability to organize your financial resources. | ||
| Also, I keep saying, remember this, write it down. | ||
| It's not, we've won, since 1968 Nixon, we've won more elections than we lost. | ||
| At the presidential level, at House seats, Senate seats, state legislatures, and in the process, lost our country. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| It's about elections where you get the right people and the right policies in place. | ||
| And I gotta tell corporate America, We've got a list. | ||
| Everybody that does the de-platform, the de-financial thing, payback's going to be hell. | ||
| They're all melting down because McCarthy says something? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| We're going to regain power. | ||
| And every global corporatist that tried to shut down MAGA is going to pay a price, and a substantial price. | ||
| You're not getting a free pass on this anymore. | ||
| This is not your father's Republican Party, where all you're going to do is get tax cuts and kowtowing to you and deregulation. | ||
| Those days are over. | ||
| There's a list. | ||
| We know exactly who came after MAGA, okay? | ||
| And listen, you think you're going to sit here and try to crush the voice of the people? | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| Darren Beattie. | ||
| No, you're absolutely right. | ||
| And you referenced Chase Bank. | ||
| And so, we live in a country right now, firstly, that we saw a sitting President of the United States de-platformed from one of the principal communication infrastructure elements of the country. | ||
| That was Twitter. | ||
| And now we saw this episode with Chase Bank, which in case your audience was not familiar, Chase Bank basically sent a threat letter to General Flynn's wife saying that, we're going to discontinue, I believe it's his personal account, not even business account. | ||
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| We're going to discontinue your personal bank accounts, your personal credit cards on account of some amorphous concept of reputational risk, which is ridiculous, given what Chase Bank or really any major bank in the United States, the kind of dirty activities that any major bank is involved in for Chase Bank to say, General Flynn represents a reputational risk is not only ridiculous and offensive. | ||
| It also goes to show how politically weaponized every single element of infrastructure in this country has become. | ||
| Chase, you're going to pay a price. | ||
| Listen, you're just going to pay a price. | ||
| There's no more doing this. | ||
| Chase talking about reputational risk, is this not the bank of David Rockefeller? | ||
| Of every coup in the Central American countries? | ||
| Of just doing it to aggregate wealth to yourself? | ||
| Reputational risk? | ||
| Good God, if you should call it the Flynn Bank tomorrow and tell General Flynn we're so honored to rename our bank after you, an American patriot. | ||
| The Chase Bank and David Rockefeller and the scumbag Rockefeller family? | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| This reputational risk? | ||
| Darren, it's got to be... | ||
| They could have used anything, but the reputational risk and one of the biggest group of global scumbags in history, and they're saying for a great patriot like General Flynn, they're gonna take his bank account away because of reputational risk? | ||
| Give me a couple of minutes on that, because this is what's so outrageous. | ||
| Well, yeah, so we have a piece up at revolver.news that really analyzes this in detail. | ||
| It's up right at the top right now, and it really traces the history of this political weaponization of this concept of reputational risk. | ||
| Its original context, it makes complete sense. | ||
| If a company screws something up, if it produces a product, maybe a vaccine or something else, and that product happens to be faulty, that's an element of reputational risk. | ||
| It wasn't really until Cuomo, of all people, the disgraced former governor of New York, weaponized the concept of reputational risk politically in his war against the NRA that it really became the type of instrument that we're seeing now that gives a certain pretext to any major... | ||
| corporation or service in the United States to de-platform people for their political beliefs, which is extremely serious because we're talking about political mobilization. | ||
| If we're de-platformed from the architecture of mobilization, what position does that put us in? | ||
| And they understand that, and this is precisely to preempt this mobilization that they see developing, the energy that they see developing, and say, look, you might have the people on your side, but if we de-platform you from the communications infrastructure of this country, from the financial and banking infrastructure of this country, From all sorts of other basic services, then what are you going to do? | ||
| And we're in a China-like situation where they have these social credit scores where you're not in line with the party ideology and you basically become a fourth class citizen. | ||
| And that's what we're seeing here in the United States. | ||
| And I think there's another important point on this that's especially relevant for those of us who might describe ourselves as economic nationalists. | ||
| There's this whole kind of mantra of higher American, buy American, and this kind of elevation of American companies, which is generally good. | ||
| But, you know, a lot of these really scum corporations are in a precise technical sense American. | ||
| And I have to say it's a controversial thing to say, but I truly believe it. | ||
| And that is that I would prefer a foreign competitor to an American corporation that politically targets Americans in the way that they're targeting Flynn. | ||
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No, but here's what I want to do. | |
| I'm saying, but keeping the list, we're going to hold people responsible for political targeting. | ||
| There's no more free shots on gold. | ||
| Right now, the oligarchs in Silicon Valley, the banking oligarchs, they have a free shot. | ||
| Tell me about Revolver. | ||
| What's going on this week? | ||
| I know you guys are working today. | ||
| What can people look to? | ||
| How do they get to you? | ||
| They have they have no blowback. | ||
| Well, in 2022, when you take the house, it's going to be a different situation. | ||
| We're going to have a sweeping victory in the House, 50 seats plus. | ||
| OK, but you've got to get the right people in there. | ||
| We can't just play patty cake anymore like the Republicans have been doing. | ||
| Darren, tell me about tell me about Revolver. | ||
| What's going on this week? | ||
| I know you guys are working today. | ||
| What can people look to? | ||
| How do they get to you? How do they get to you on social media? | ||
| Go to Revolver dot news. | ||
| We've got a great piece up about this very question of weaponization of reputational risk, what happened to Flynn, and what's happening generally to the country. | ||
| It's right at the top of revolver.news right now. | ||
| We've got some really, really big January 6th pieces following up on our earlier reporting. | ||
| And so that's going to make a big splash, as always, when it comes out. | ||
| And in the meantime, check me out on Twitter at Darren J. Beattie. | ||
| D-A-R-R-E-N-J-B-E-A-T-T-I-E. | ||
| Darren Beatty, thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you for joining us here in the War Room. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Okay, the power of this audience is now freaking out the left. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because you get results. | ||
| The Texas heartbeat bill got the Republican establishment scrambling away from it. | ||
| Terry Shilling's going to come here. | ||
| We've got Matt Salmon running for governor of Arizona, Terry Shilling, and an individual taking out hostages in Afghanistan next. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, it's Labor Day Monday, the 6th of September, the year of our Lord 2021, and Labor Day is to honor The American worker and honor the work. | ||
| OK, we always honor the work here every day on this show and particularly the work of this audience. | ||
| You are the most powerful audience in all media and one of the most powerful forces politically in this country. | ||
| I don't say that. | ||
| ProPublica says that, which is this left-wing investigative apparatus that's quite smart and full of award-winning journalists, right? | ||
| And also MSNBC, the head of the operations, Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow, got Joy Reed, they're all in meltdown. | ||
| Total meltdown. | ||
| Complete meltdown because of the power, not the latent power, the power-power It's a compliment to you. | ||
| A compliment to MAGA. | ||
| A compliment to the America First Movement. | ||
| A compliment to the deplorables. | ||
| Because that's what they fear. | ||
| They fear patriots. | ||
| They fear hard-working Americans. | ||
| Today, very controversially, 9.8 million, I think, Americans come off unemployment. | ||
| We've got the Mu variant in, you know, the latest variant of the CCP virus in L.A. | ||
| County, supposedly out of control. | ||
| We're going to get to all of that later in the show. | ||
| But we want to focus today on the work, the work of the American people and the work of MAGA. | ||
| Because you guys are knocking out of the park. | ||
| You're not a passive audience anymore. | ||
| You're just not listening to talk radio. | ||
| You're just not sitting there watching Fox News, yelling at the TV set. | ||
| You're now mobilized and engaged, and that's what they're trying to cut off of the past. | ||
| Because they don't understand, once you're mobilized, right, they're trying to de-platform you, de-bank you, do all of that. | ||
| Ostracize you, right? | ||
| Make you the other. | ||
| Put you in the leopard colony, as they did in 12 O'Clock High. | ||
| Okay, we've got a few technical problems we're going to get to. | ||
| By the way, we're going to get to a brilliant piece in NBC News today. | ||
| Brilliant piece in NBC News about the Texas heartbeat bill and the real, the driving strategy of the Right to Life movement. | ||
| It is quite brilliant. | ||
| We're going to have Terry Schilling on in a minute also about the Republican establishment. | ||
| Crickets, not just crickets. | ||
| I've kind of turned on the Right to Life movement in this heartbeat, Bill. | ||
| We'll have Terry on in a minute. | ||
| I want to go to Matt Salmon, though. | ||
| First, I think we've got Matt up. | ||
| Matt was a revered conservative congressman in Arizona and has decided to throw his hat in the ring in a highly and hotly contested Republican primary. | ||
| For Governor out in Arizona. | ||
| By the way, Arizona is the railhead of the Patriot Movement. | ||
| Just incredible. | ||
| We're going to talk to Matt in a second about the full forensic audit out there. | ||
| Wendy Rogers, by the way, is going to have an event, I think on Wednesday. | ||
| We're going to try to cover it live. | ||
| We're going to have her on beforehand. | ||
| Big event this week with Wendy Rogers. | ||
| The Air Force Colonel that's become kind of a national rock star about this whole movement. | ||
| Congressman Salmon, thank you very much for joining us here on the War Room. | ||
| Look, I know you worked for years in Congress. | ||
| You were one of the big guys against the debt ceiling. | ||
| I want to talk to you about that in a second. | ||
| You were one of the big fighters in the debt ceiling years ago. | ||
| You were really about fiscal conservatism and not blowing up the balance sheet of this country and destroying generations of Americans. | ||
| Then you went to the private sector, worked for a couple of guys I know who are maybe not conservatives but really terrific people. | ||
| Why would you why would you come out of I'm not saying retirement but another career now in kind of the private sector or over the Arizona State University? | ||
| Why would you do that and come back into the political ring? | ||
| What is driving you? | ||
| What is your motive for us for getting into the governor's race? | ||
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So Steve, first of all, let me thank you because it wasn't for you. | |
| I don't think that the Freedom Caucus would have ever started. | ||
| I was one of the founders of the Freedom Caucus. | ||
| And the news that you founded about 10, 12 years ago, it paved the way for us. | ||
| And I believe that the Freedom Caucus paved the way for MAGA. | ||
| And they were the strongest supporters of President Trump during his administration. | ||
| I was like, uh, any bigs and, uh, my good friend, uh, those who ended up being a chief of staff. I tell you what I tell you what, Matt, Matt, Matt. Hey, Matt, hang for a second. This is we got to get Let's reboot Matt, producer Cameron Denver. | ||
| We're going to reboot you one more time. | ||
| This is too important of an interview and you're coming in about every third word. | ||
| So I want to make sure we take, even if you have to do it by phone, let's try to get a better connection. | ||
| So Matt Salmon, we're going to—and what Matt's talking about is the Freedom Caucus, what was it, 10 years or so ago? | ||
| Matt Salmon and a handful of other congressmen, Andy Biggs and these guys, said, hey, we have a caucus inside the Republican Party that really puts forward the policies. | ||
| Do we have Terry? | ||
| Of course, that became a powerhouse and eventually with Mark Meadows took down a sitting speaker. | ||
| They're the guys that blew up John Boehner, okay, and really tried to drive changes that they've done and really was the forerunner. | ||
| It came out of the Tea Party, was a forerunner of the Trump populist movement. | ||
| Let's get, do we have Terry? | ||
| Let's bring in Terry Schilling. | ||
| Terry, first of all, I want to address the NBC article because it's very, quite brilliant about how they cut to the chase of where you guys are going, although they tried to throw up some roadblocks about trying to, they're trying to mobilize people on their side. | ||
| Walk us through, do you agree with their theory of the case of where the Texas heartbeat bill is just the first of many things that you guys are driving to really re-change and make life, this right to life movement, central to the American political agenda now? | ||
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Steve, you're exactly right. | |
| The NBC article gets one thing right, and that is that The conservative movement, the social conservative movement, the family movement is looking at how to use this Texas heartbeat enforcement mechanism in every other aspect of this battlefield, right? | ||
| So the reason the left is freaking out is because they don't know how to respond to it. | ||
| There's no government agency. | ||
| They'd have to, in order to challenge this in the courts like they always do, they'd have to sue the American people. | ||
| And there's no ground to do that unless there's an issue or there's a conflict. | ||
| So what APP and what The Big Family is looking at doing is, how do we make it so that there's a private right of action enforcement mechanism when it comes to ruining the innocence of children, right? | ||
| So if there's a website that exposes your children to pornography or some type of weird LGBT stuff, can parents sue to enforce it? | ||
| This changes the game, Steve. | ||
| I can't emphasize this enough. | ||
| We hadn't thought about how to use the courts and how to use the legal system to our advantage in this type of way before. | ||
| It's so disruptive. | ||
| It's a revolution and the left knows that. | ||
| And so they're coming out now with, uh, Oh, what are they bringing as a bounty hunters? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, so they're, they're painting pictures of people's minds of, of these bounty hunters that are out there hunting women. | ||
| Like, no, no women are being sued. | ||
| It's only abortion doctors who are killing little babies with heartbeats. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| And, um, what I'm most concerned about Steve is there's been some silence on the Republican party, which is an improvement, you know, typically Republicans are out there opposing these types of creative pro-life laws. | ||
| But there's just some silence and we need to go on offense here. | ||
| We really need to attack the Dems for how extreme they are. | ||
| I don't think it's silence. | ||
| So the NBC, let's get the NBC article. | ||
| The NBC article talks about how this heartbeat bill, kind of a David versus Goliath, is now going to be the centerpiece of many more pieces of legislation that grassroots are going to be working on to really make the family a centerpiece of the agenda on the right. | ||
| And it's quite brilliant. | ||
| What they do, though, they bring in other aspects that I don't think you guys are going to, to try to galvanize people on the left, say, hey, here's what they're going to try to do, right? | ||
| These guys are all, they're all, this is Handmaid's Tale. | ||
| And you've got vigilantes, you've got bounty hunters, and you've got the worst of the patriarchy. | ||
| You know, the Terry Shillings and the Steve Bannas were, hey, look, like I said, this is not my line of country at all. | ||
| I'm a big believer in the family movement. | ||
| I support Shilling and these guys. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| They have had a massive victory of David versus Goliath, and the left is in total meltdown because there's nothing they can do about it right now. | ||
| Except, except, wait for it, the guys turning you, the most of the Republican establishment, the Country Club Republicans, and the corporate, the corporatist interests in the Republican Party. | ||
| Talk to us about the last 48 hours. | ||
| What's happened in this regard, Terry? | ||
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So you've got like some, it's the typical never Trump crowd, right? | |
| They're coming out, Adam Kinzinger, Barbara Comstock, Brandon so-and-so, who used to be Paul Ryan's communications director. | ||
| I mean, they're bringing out a bunch of completely irrelevant Republicans, and they're getting them all over the mainstream media to act like, well, we're the mainstream Republicans, and you'd have to be a real crazy, crazy jerk to support this Texas heartbeat bill. | ||
| But they're opposing it, and they're saying the most ridiculous thing, Steve. | ||
| Like, they're saying, oh, can you imagine if California allowed people To sue over whether or not someone could own a gun? | ||
| Like, what are you talking about? | ||
| Like, what world do you live in where owning a gun is a crime? | ||
| It's not, like... So they're just... Look, it's the Republican Party who's gonna try and kill this, but I think they're outnumbered. | ||
| I mean, I don't know if you saw Tom Cotton's statement about this, but it was very strong. | ||
| And, you know, the thing is, these Republicans know the moment that America is in right now. | ||
| They know that if they come out guns-a-blazing against this, bill that they're going to face a primary challenge or they're going to suffer electorally. So, um, I just think we need more guys going on offense talking about how this is a heartbeat bill. Right? I mean, the movement's very active, but our political leaders are elected officials. They need to be more outspoken because they're the ones that represent us in the press, right? | ||
| They're the ones that get our talking points out, and we need a lot more people. | ||
| I love Tom Cotton. | ||
| I'm the biggest Tom Cotton fan out there, but we need more people backing him up and leading on this. | ||
| I was very disappointed, by the way, Steve, in Donald Trump's response. | ||
| I was a little bit shocked by it, to be honest. | ||
| He kind of punted on it, which is It's not typical for him, so I'm just wondering what's going on. | ||
| I hold that 100% that he wasn't briefed properly. | ||
| I think that's staffing. | ||
| I don't think he was briefed properly. | ||
| We'll have to see, but I think he was not briefed properly for the interview. | ||
| I think they threw it in at the last second. | ||
| I think properly briefed, he would be a supporter of this. | ||
| But the corporate interest, the deeper story is that the corporate interests are telling the Republican establishment right now, we're not putting in any money. | ||
| You wait until the pressure comes in Texas. | ||
| Here's the signal, not the noise. | ||
| You're going to start seeing all these corporations saying, hey, we're pulling our business out. | ||
| You know, Elon Musk is going to change his attitude. | ||
| Watch. | ||
| The pressure on this is going to be enormous. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because they understand this is a path to victory for MAGA. | ||
| They understand for the family movement that this is big and they've got to cut it off somehow. | ||
| The de-platforming, the de-financialization, all of it. | ||
| They're coming hard. | ||
| I'm just shilling 1776 across every major platform. | ||
| as hard as they possibly come. | ||
| They're coming off the chain on this thing. | ||
| Wait for it. | ||
| Okay, Terry, how do people get to you? | ||
| People want to find out more of what went on. | ||
| What's it about? | ||
| Your analysis? | ||
| How do they get to your site? | ||
| How do they get to your Twitter feed? | ||
| We're going to have all the people, Liz, yours and others on to explain this too because this is a very big deal. | ||
| Terry Schilling. | ||
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I'm just Schilling 1776 across every major platform, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, Getter, And then go to our website, AmericanPrinciplesProject.org. | |
| Check us out. | ||
| We will keep you updated on all of this. | ||
| My Twitter feed's the best place to go to find relevant news about this. | ||
| There's a great article I posted from Archbishop Cordeleon in the Washington Post today. | ||
| I recommend everyone read it. | ||
| It's about holding pro-choice, pro-abortion Catholic politicians accountable. | ||
| It's a really good read. | ||
| Big League. | ||
| And by the way, NBC News did a really good piece, too. | ||
| We'll have that up. | ||
| OK, I want to turn now back to Matt Simon. | ||
| Matt, Congressman, you only got a couple of minutes in this segment, but just talk to us. | ||
| Why did you form the Freedom Caucus? | ||
| Why was it important at the time? | ||
| And why, in your idea, is the Freedom Caucus the forerunner of the Trump movement? | ||
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We formed the Freedom Caucus because the Republican Party was gutless. | |
| Remember at the time, John Boehner was the speaker and Obama was the president. | ||
| And time and time again, the Republican Party was capitulating, watering everything down. | ||
| And so Jim Jordan approached me on the floor one night and said, Matt, we've got to do something. | ||
| You've been here before. | ||
| What do you recommend? | ||
| So we got together and started the Freedom Caucus. | ||
| And it was basically to inject a spine into our leaders. | ||
| And one of the first things we ended up doing was kicking John Boehner's butt out of speaker because, you know, we needed we needed some fresh blood. | ||
| He brought in Paul Ryan. | ||
| But, you know, Ryan didn't do the job either. | ||
| The fact is, you said this earlier in your program, we're going to take the Congress back, but we've got to have leaders. | ||
| I keep begging for Jim Jordan to run for Speaker, somebody that's actually conservative, that actually believes what we've been promising. | ||
| The reason that President Trump was so successful was because he kept all the promises that he made when he was campaigning, and that's all the Freedom Caucus ever wanted. | ||
| The fact that I'm running right now for Governor is because everything's gone to hell in a handbasket. | ||
| I mean, the border was secure. | ||
| We had a great economy. | ||
| We were energy independent. | ||
| Now all those things are gone. | ||
| They've all been turned up upside down and Biden is ruining everything. | ||
| And he's trying to jam his liberal policies into Arizona. | ||
| And it's not gonna happen if I become governor. | ||
| Okay, hang on a second. | ||
| We're going to hold you over this break and bring you back. | ||
| The question we got from Matt Salmon, given we got the debt ceiling and everything else, we need him at a federal level. | ||
| He decided to run for governor. | ||
| We're going to ask him that question. | ||
| Why governor? | ||
| Why now? | ||
| When we return in the War Room with Congressman Matt Salmon from Arizona. | ||
| We'll be back in just a moment. | ||
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| It's Labor Day Monday. | ||
| It's the last day of traditional summer. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Although, summer, I don't think, ends until, like, the 22nd or the 21st. | ||
| But, it's the last day of traditional. | ||
| So, no more excuses. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Summer holiday's over. | ||
| We're now into the run-up all the way to the end of the year. | ||
| September, October, November, December. | ||
| Nothing gets crazier in the United States than those four months. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And, by the way, when Congress comes back, this is going to be the most intense 30 days when these guys come back. | ||
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| I want to turn back now to Congressman Matt Salmon. | ||
| So Congressman, you were one of the intellectual leaders and fighters about the whole death ceiling and the federal budget being out of control. | ||
| You warned people, by the way, 10 years ago, we were going to get here eventually, right? | ||
| And we are here now in the middle of it. | ||
| Why then run for governor? | ||
| You're needed at the federal level. | ||
| Tell us why you're driving focus that you feel that you better serve the people of Arizona by being their governor right now. | ||
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Because I really believe the only way we're going to turn our country around is for some strong State governors stand up to the federal government and use the 10th Amendment to push back on the stupid things that you're trying to force onto the state. | |
| We have our sovereignty as well. | ||
| And our founding fathers, in their infinite wisdom, they realized that there was a separation of powers, not just at the federal level between the legislative, the judicial, and the executive, but they also realized that there was a vertical separation of powers and that the state held most of the power. | ||
| But the governors haven't been enforcing that, whether it's building the wall. | ||
| That's one of the things that I want to get done. | ||
| I had a great conversation with Governor Abbott of Texas last week, and I believe that if the federal government's not going to do it, we'll get it done. | ||
| And we're going to go ahead and enforce our border laws without the federal government. | ||
| It's easier to get forgiveness and permission. | ||
| We've got to stand up and assert our 10th Amendment privileges and fight against these vaccine mandates and mask mandates and closing our businesses, you know, according to CDC guidelines. | ||
| We have to stand up and take our government back. | ||
| And it's not going to happen unless we have some chief executives of the state. | ||
| to have the guts to stand up and fight for it. | ||
| Look at the candidates that are waiting for it. | ||
| Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, one second. | ||
| You're the, Arizona is the head of the, is the cauldron that is driving the patriot movement right now. | ||
| I've never seen a more engaged electorate ever than in Arizona right now. | ||
| It's, it's, it's really amazing. | ||
| So first off, I'm going to get to the election in a second, but on the, on the, on the border, you have an invasion of your state that's taken, invasion of the United States, but particularly Naja Farage went down there and said, hey, this is worse than the migrant crisis in Europe in 2015. | ||
| What specific actions as governor is Matt Salmon going to take? | ||
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Well, first of all, Steve, Once I get elected governor, the first press conference I do is with a posthold digger on the border saying to the public, if the federal government's not going to do it, then we're going to get it done. | |
| Just like Abbott's doing the thing in Texas. | ||
| We'll find the money. | ||
| We'll get it done. | ||
| And we'll let them try to stop us. | ||
| And if we have to fight them all the way to the Supreme Court, we'll get it done. | ||
| I believe that the law is on our side. | ||
| The other thing that we'll do is make sure that our border sheriffs have all the tools that they need. | ||
| We'll also get our National Guard at the border. | ||
| And we will start enforcing our own laws. | ||
| Article 4, Section 4 of the Constitution says that the federal government is supposed to protect us from invasion. | ||
| Well, they're not. | ||
| And if they're not going to do it, then we have the right to stand up. | ||
| We have a sovereign border as well. | ||
| We have the right to stand up and fight for it. | ||
| Okay, this week, when Colonel Rogers and others are telling me we should see at least some part of this analysis and report that was done about Maricopa County, what's your position, where do you stand now as a candidate, and what would you do as a governor to clean up this mess in Maricopa County, and quite frankly, throughout Pinal and Pima County too, basically the whole state of Arizona, about what happened in 2020? | ||
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Yes, Steve, it has to happen all across the whole state. | |
| And we need to audit the whole state, not just Maricopa County. | ||
| I support the audit 100%. | ||
| And I believe that the findings that are going to come out are going to come out with some pretty tangible recommendations on how we can avoid having elections cheated and stolen in the future. | ||
| And I'm the only candidate for governor that's actually put out a plan for making sure that we have integrous elections. | ||
| And one of those things is to make sure that we have Voter ID requirements for mail-in ballots as well. | ||
| Right now, 92% of our ballots last election were done by mail. | ||
| There's no voter ID requirement for those. | ||
| We've got to require voter ID. | ||
| The other thing is permanently banned ballot harvesting in this state. | ||
| Those are two of the things. | ||
| I've got a 10-point plan that also includes prohibiting last-minute gamesmanship and rule changes. | ||
| Last time a judge came in, and extended the voter registration by 15 days. | ||
| Besides the plan, besides the plan for 2022, and we'll get your 10-point plan up, would you, if the numbers come out, it's all about the math and facts and receipts, but the receipts come out in Maricopa and other counties that show that there's a major question about the votes for Biden versus Trump, the real ballots. | ||
| Would you support a decertification of the electors and for the state Senate to start a process to decertify the electors in the 2020 election? | ||
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I want to prejudge what's going to come out in the report. | |
| And I'm waiting for the report to determine that, and I talked to Karen Fan about that extensively, and she said that if it comes back that it was clear and convincing that the election was not handled the way it should have been and the results are fraudulent, that it's still going to have to go through litigation. | ||
| We're in unprecedented territory right now, so getting that done is going to be really, really difficult. | ||
| Ken asks, how do people get to you? | ||
| How do they get to your site? | ||
| How do they see the 10-point plan? | ||
| All of it. | ||
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Yeah, so I'm at mattsalmon4az.com and that's F-O-R, not the number 4, and it goes through all of my recommendations. | |
| We're putting out policy statements all the time, but Steve, the thing I want to leave in people's minds, the three things I want to do as governor, number one, protection, and protection includes our border, it includes standing up for the blue, And it also includes voter integrity. | ||
| The second thing is economy. | ||
| I want to take our income tax to zero so that we can compete with Florida and Texas. | ||
| I also don't believe we should be taxing income. | ||
| And the third thing is education. | ||
| I want every parent to be able to decide what school they want their kids to go to, and I want the tax dollars to follow them. | ||
| And that's the only way we're going to change things. | ||
| Today, the issue with the schools is this critical race theory, and our legislature put a ban together, and then they thumbed their nose at it right away. | ||
| We've got to make sure that parents can vote with their feet when they're teaching crap in the schools, and they can take their kids out, take their tax dollars with them. | ||
| I'm the candidate that's pushing for maximum freedom. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| We'll get everybody to your site and make sure they check it out. | ||
| Congressman Sammott, thank you very much. | ||
| Short commercial break. |
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