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Episode 1,193 – Combating Covid: A Dr.'s Special Pt. 2Episode 1,193 – Combating Covid: A Dr.'s Special Pt. 2
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unidentified
Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
You don't want to frighten the American public.
unidentified
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
This is going to be a real serious problem.
unidentified
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back to the War Room.
Closing on 80 million downloads.
We're live everywhere.
We're in Mandarin because GNewsGTV.
We're also in Japanese now.
I want to thank our Australian audience.
It's huge.
I want to thank you.
Also Brazil, the UK, Europe, all of it, India.
So, we got a mess, right?
The only way you can say that we got a crisis.
Crisis is we have an illegitimate president and now you're seeing what happens when you don't have due diligence and the American people can actually weigh and measure what's going on.
The big tech oligarchs shut all that down with big media.
They shut down, first off, any discussion about the Wuhan lab and the gain-of-function thing that we started with in January of 2020 when we started the show.
They shut down any discussion of really Joe Biden and what Biden was up to, what he was going to do, plans, policies, all that.
No discussion of that.
Then they shut up discussion of hydroxychloroquine and all the other therapeutics, right, of any type of methodology that would just not be vaccines, vaccines, vaccines, including herd immunity.
So now we're in multiple crises.
Multiple crises.
It's spinning out of control.
And what are the Democrats doing?
They're coming back, and they're here on Monday.
Nancy Pelosi's calling them back from saying, here's what we're going to do.
They're going to try to jam through $6 trillion of spending.
They're going to try to completely blow up the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve so that it'll take us generations to undo the damage they're going to try to do here in the next 10 days.
unidentified
Okay?
steve bannon
Because they understand they only have one chance now.
Biden's in a free fall, and there's no base to Biden's free fall because, uh, nobody voted for him.
Okay?
You know, he didn't get 80 million votes.
That's why the numbers are in free fall.
That's when you look at the Rasmussen Poll, who's flipping?
African Americans, 14%.
Women, I think 12%.
African-American males leading it.
The Economist.
The Economist poll, not War Room, not the Technocracy site, right?
Not Gateway Pundit, not Real America's Voice.
The Economist, which is the official magazine of the Party of Davos.
The Economist poll that came out Friday has Hispanics.
Their opinion of, is it, Joe Biden's handling the economy in the category of excellent.
Is it excellent?
Zero point zero.
That would be ought dot ought.
Okay?
I have never seen in any poll where any category didn't have, could not fog a mirror.
Nothing.
Zero.
This is Hispanics.
You know why?
They've got common sense and they see what the problem is with this economy right now.
It's all spinning out of control from an invasion on the border, to out of control geopolitically, to out of control with our great rival, the Chinese Communist Party that's looking there and just licking their chops He's a feckless, hapless old man who's kind of wandering around in that press conference yesterday.
Now you've got the media, you've got CNN.
Rachel Maddow's leaking.
I'm negotiating my deal, but I'm probably not going to stick around because I want to spend more time with my family.
That's from their side.
She wants out.
They all want out.
CNN's turned on him.
MSNBC's turned on him.
At least partially.
They're going to do the big pivot, but at least partially.
Because the globalists understand that their long-term project is collapsing before their eyes.
Okay?
And who's coming to the rescue?
Of course, it's the sons and daughters of the deplorables.
You're the ones that are going to go back in harm's way.
Okay?
And the world's voting.
Here's how they vote.
Don't listen to the talk.
Don't listen to the talking heads.
Don't listen to BBC.
Don't read the Economist.
You don't have to read the Financial Times of London.
You don't have to read any of it.
You don't have to go Gateway Punty.
You don't have to listen to War Room.
Look at the footage.
The Afghan people are tossing their babies and their children over the barbed wire and hope they're caught by guess who?
A child of the deplorables.
A serviceman or a woman to take them to safety.
That's all the vote you need.
Right?
That's the vote.
That's the vote that counts.
That's the vote that happened here.
That's why Donald Trump, and I keep telling people, color inside the lines.
Here's why.
Not only did we win, we control the country.
Okay?
We control the country, and it's now time to start acting like we control the country.
And you're going to see a little bit of this in Alabama today.
And that's why we have Dr. Robert Malone and other people have come on here with facts and data and kind of common sense and people dedicated to life.
Malone's not some crazy anti-vaxxer running around.
He's dedicated his life to vaccines.
Let me repeat that.
He's dedicated his life to vaccines.
Okay?
He wants the most rigorous process, the most thorough process, and to make sure these vaccines work and the process is done correctly.
So once again, Patrick, before I leave you, everybody's got to go to the Technocracy site.
If you get a chance, Technocracy and the hard road to world order.
Baby, it's a hard road.
But I've got to tell you, right now, it's coming apart at the seams.
And the Treaty of Westphalia, the nation-states that we've lived under kind of for 300 years, That what the American carnage speech was about right when she went to Davos a couple days beforehand and said hey We got a new network effect here.
We're gonna start with the Eurasian landmass You're seeing it before your eyes what she laid out a couple days before Trump's before Trump's inauguration in 17 That's what's playing out right here, but you have voices of freedom throughout the world and currently the Afghan people are The Afghan people tossing their babies over the barbed wire to the American servicemen.
Do you think they want a medieval theocracy running the lives of their children?
Do you think they want the Chinese Communist Party?
You don't see them running through town and say, we're the Chinese soldiers, let me see some CCP soldiers, let me toss my kids to them.
They are not.
They're not running over the Taliban saying, hey, I want my son and daughter in a madrasa.
No, they're not.
They're tossing them to get to the United States of America and to live under Judeo-Christian values.
That's the sons and daughters of the deplorable.
And once again, as in the Revolution, as in the Civil War, as in World War II, and every conflict we've had, It always comes down to you.
OK, Patrick, real quickly, go back, put it up.
There's a couple of sites up.
You're saying that the reporting that's coming out of the raw data coming out of the United States and now Europe shows that there's something that people ought to consider as they look at as they think about taking this vaccine.
Is that correct, sir?
unidentified
Well, the numbers are disturbing.
Absolutely.
Positively.
And I know they're not they're not really sifted and tested and cross tabulated stuff.
I don't think we need to do that in order to just conclude there's something really wrong with this whole program.
This is not just about your health anymore.
This thing is global, as you've mentioned several times.
It is persistent.
It doesn't matter what science seems to come out and what doctors seem to come out and disputing this other side of the science, their side of science.
And it just continues, and this is top to bottom in every society in the world.
It's just inconceivable, but we're approaching the numbers here.
Over 100,000, just between Europe and the United States, potentially over 100,000 people have died as a result of actually taking this vaccine.
That's approaching a number some people would call genocide.
steve bannon
How do people get to your website?
How do they follow you on social media?
unidentified
Technocracy.news.
Everything is right there for them to get into it and to click onto it.
Follow the story.
Read the stories from around the world.
The people of the world, I know you know that.
steve bannon
Technocracy and transhumanism.
That's the real buried lead, the transhumanist, right?
Go on Drudge right now.
You see Elon Musk.
He's got the robot that's going to be in your life, taking your work away.
For another day, Patrick, you're amazing.
Thank you very much.
Let's get into the live chat.
Dr. Malone, on Monday, the FDA, some of the you've worked in and out with for years and years and years, is going to approve.
New York Times is saying they're going to approve The Pfizer vaccine.
Okay?
What does that mean?
You've been at this for a long time.
What is that going to mean for the other, in your professional opinion, what is that going to mean for the messenger RNA vaccines?
dr robert malone
Well, the one that they're going to approve is also an mRNA vaccine.
It's the Pfizer one.
And by the way, it's the vaccine that has the lowest durability of the two mRNA vaccines.
So, We're going to talk about that a little bit later with Kevin Homer and his own experience.
But what it means, I think, it's hard for me to see how you can continue deploying vaccinating people.
with the Moderna and the J&J product here in the United States when they're not licensed and the Pfizer one is.
steve bannon
Is technically the emergency use authorization goes away for the other two when the other one's approved?
dr robert malone
The way it's written ambiguously it says that if there's an alternative at the time the EUA is granted Then the eat went evaluated, then it can't be granted.
So there is a backdoor in there.
And what we've seen is they kind of don't care about intent anymore.
They do whatever they want to do.
And so I won't be surprised if we continue to see these other two deployed.
steve bannon
If they're fast-tracking the Pfizer for approval, did they not, did the numbers just, they must have been doing the same process for Moderna and J&J.
Is your belief they just didn't have the evidence, or the data, or how do you, and it's such a bad look.
If I'd sat and gotten the Moderna, I'd go, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, what happened here, right?
I'd get, they'd do a bait-and-switch on me.
Wouldn't they have brought them along both at the same time?
dr robert malone
So the data, I can't speak to the data on J&J, I haven't dove deep into that, but Moderna is three times the dose of mRNA of the Pfizer one and the Moderna adverse events are more frequent and broader in scope.
And we also have adverse events with the adenoviral vectored vaccines that are more prominent than are seen with the mRNA ones.
So it could well be that Moderna and J&J are having more trouble getting their packages through.
steve bannon
Let's bring in Dr. Tyson right now.
Dr. Tyson Jones.
Dr. Malone, I'm going to turn it over to you.
We've got about four minutes.
Let's walk through.
We've got a number of prominent doctors lined up today to talk to with Dr. about potential solutions and how you can get this back to the state level.
So Dr. Malone, take it away.
dr robert malone
Hey Brian, how are you doing?
I see Dr. Valle.
unidentified
Do you have Brian Tyson?
There he is.
dr robert malone
Okay, Brian.
So the point that I'd like to hammer on right now is the one that Dr. Valle has led on, which is this point of allowing physicians freedom to practice medicine.
And how that's being blocked right now a lot of people aren't very familiar with that in terms of you know what what are the alternatives if you do or don't take vaccine because remember we're still having like in LA this reports are just out that over 30% of the cases in the hospital are people that are previously vaccinated.
So, what are the options in terms of treating people that could keep them out of the hospital?
Can you speak to that and can you speak to the reality of being a practicing physician trying to practice your craft in this environment?
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, Robert, I could tell you that, you know, even from the very beginning, it's been very difficult to get the message out.
We've been treating patients for You know, 18 months.
We've treated now, between me and Dr. Freed, over 6,200 positive COVID patients.
And some of the big challenges, number one, is getting them the medications.
Using FDA-approved medications and using multi-drug therapy, you would think, would be an easy solution.
We use repurposed drugs for many other disease processes, but when The term, you know, and when hydroxychloroquine first broke, and using that triple therapy from Dr. Zelenko, it seemed to almost kind of shut down the ability to use that drug.
Later on, you see what Dr. Corey broke, and the ivermectin, and now they're being suppressive of that.
You look at the studies from using NAC, N-Acetyl Cysteine, or NAC, And now they're trying to pull that off the shelves and make that prescription only.
So it's very interesting that the medications that seem to be working, we're not able to use or able to get, or we're having to fight with pharmacies to get them to fill it.
dr robert malone
Can you amplify on that?
What do you mean by pharmacies won't fill physicians prescriptions?
unidentified
So, the biggest drawback is they say the medication is not FDA approved for the treatment of COVID.
It's an FDA approved drug, but they're saying the diagnosis is not approved, which in the history of medicine... Do you encounter... Yeah, amplify.
dr robert malone
Do you encounter that with any other disease where you're using off-label drugs?
I mean, a large fraction of what we do in terms of drug therapy is off-label.
steve bannon
I tell you, hang on one second.
Dr. Tyson, you hang on.
We're going to answer that question on the other side of a short commercial break.
We've got a packed rest of the show.
We're going to bring some of the top doctors in the country with Dr. Malone, try to get to the bottom of all this.
FDA is going to approve it on Monday, and then the real firestorm starts with the Mothers of America.
All next in The War Room.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Banham.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, there's going to be a massive rally in Alabama today.
It's about the Mo Brooks campaign.
President Trump is going to be there.
It's going to be a very, very important speech of President Trump.
It's already leaking in the Daily Mail.
He's calling for new leadership in the White House.
He started the week by saying that Joe Biden should resign, so already it's going to be pretty, which has never happened before in American history, so pretty eventful week.
I want to give you the Mainstream media throughout the world.
I'm gonna start with the Financial Times of London, which is the tip sheet for the party of Davos headline Kabul chaos thwarts evacuation as Washington blame game starts.
Okay, they're pointing fingers at everybody, at each other, the circle firing squad.
And of course, in the last days of the new Afghanistan, 20 years of the globalist project crumbles before their eyes.
Also, the Wall Street Journal, Biden vows to bring all Americans home.
Biden vows to bring all Americans home.
And it says, speech caps turbulent week for White House as chaos in Kabul hampers evacuations.
And of course, the New York Times, the paper of record of our beloved Republic, headlines with shows chaos right there and a picture of immense chaos.
And of course, the Taliban now ascendant on Joe Biden's watch.
Despair in Kabul undercuts Biden on rescue effort.
So the mainstream media, CNN, MSNBC, they're trying to pivot and blame as much of this on Trump as possible, but they can't, you know, just don't, you know, your lying eyes are going to tell you what's going on.
As Bill Parcells says, you are what your record says you are.
OK, with all the happy talk and the spin, you see the Biden regime.
As we continue to say, elections have consequences, and stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
Not just catastrophic for the people of this country and our beloved republic, but also the world and all humanity, as now this spins out of control on every aspect of it.
But the Democratic Party is going to do what the Biden regime is going to do.
They're going to force through a FDA approval on the vaccines on on at least the Pfizer vaccine on Monday to thwart the mothers of this country.
As we told you on August 15th, when schools start coming back, that's when the mothers of this country take charge.
The chief operating officer of the American family is going to say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, not on my watch.
Okay, so now you have the mask, you have the vaccines, and it's going to be a firestorm.
The Children's Health Defense Fund has announced a nationwide strike at schools starting on September 13th.
We had a couple of the advocates there yesterday.
We will be following that very closely.
Maureen Bannon, real quickly, breaking news on Afghanistan.
We are getting sent non-stop, you should know, non-stop footage that we can't show on television.
We'd have to blot it out so much for the horror that's going on, the gunfights that are going on, the agony that's going on in Afghanistan right now on Kabul.
And it's hard to ascertain, are these American citizens?
Are these Afghanis who fought with us?
Are they just Afghan citizens?
But it is, to say it's chaos, is to underplay chaos.
Maureen Bannon, Captain Bannon, what do you got for us?
maureen bannon
So around 1200 to 1300 local time in Kabul, the Taliban were firing shots at people outside of the north gate of the airport.
There's been reports of some casualties.
The exact number I do not have at this time.
And then at that point, the State Department issued to all Americans in Afghanistan that we do not know the number of.
That they need to not come to the airport at this time due to safety concerns.
And at the Pentagon press briefing moments ago, the Pentagon was not even aware that the State Department had issued that statement.
steve bannon
This is spinning out of control, okay?
This is incompetence, malevolence on top of incompetence.
It is incredible.
There are 15,000 hostages at the tender mercies, American citizens, at the tender mercies of the Taliban right now, this medieval theocracy.
I spent, what, six months and others spent years in the North Arabian Sea, Persian Gulf, in Tehran in the late 70s, early 80s.
Right?
With 52 hostages that brought down the Carter presidency.
And Jimmy Carter looks like Rambo on steroids right now compared to Joe Biden.
Okay, I want to pivot back to... So, this is for Dr. Tyson.
We have this thing.
You're saying you're actually... Let me get this right, Dr. Mone.
You're prescribing... A physician's prescribing things for his patients and the pharmacy is not putting these prescriptions through?
Dr. Tyson, do we hear that correctly?
unidentified
That's correct.
And they say because there's no indication for the use of the medication, which is just baloney.
You know, we use drugs All the time off-label.
Look at aspirin, for example.
Can you imagine?
Aspirin was a medication just used for headaches and now it's got multi, you know, uses from, you know, coronary artery disease to stroke.
And now, so when we call these prescriptions in, the pharmacists will ask for the diagnosis and if the diagnosis is COVID, a lot of these pharmacies are no longer filling the medication saying there's no indication for it.
It's just the pharmacies practicing medicine without a license instead of the physician being able to practice medicine.
steve bannon
Hang on a second.
That's the part of it.
Is the pharmacy now getting in between the doctor?
This is what I don't understand.
This is so out of control.
You're saying the pharmacy is getting in between the doctor-patient relationship?
dr robert malone
Exactly.
Many, many physicians are complaining about this and experiencing it.
It varies by state to state and there's some evidence that certain pharmacy chains are enforcing these rules and others aren't.
steve bannon
Dr. Tyson.
When you were in college and studying and wanted to be a doctor and went to medical school and you read a book, did you ever think you would get to a day that you're seeing kind of this medical imperialism happen from some central command in Washington D.C.
or the CDC?
Did you ever think in a million years that you would be talking about issues and dealing with issues with your patients that you're dealing with today?
unidentified
No, I thought it was actually going to be the opposite.
When we were in residency, we were told to investigate, be creative, find solutions, and that's what we did during this pandemic.
We created solutions, we did our research, we started using drugs, we started using multi-treatment drugs, And we started finding success.
We started reporting our success and we got shut down.
I mean, I've been banned on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram for posting videos of my success just to be, you know, told that I'm a quack.
I'm selling, you know, snake oil and some of these other things when our proven success is 6,200 patients.
6,200 patients.
And with early treatment, not one person has died.
You would think that the whole country would want that.
steve bannon
You are what your record says you are.
Dr. Tyson, how do people get to you?
Hopefully you're up on Getter, but how do people get to you?
unidentified
All Valley Urgent Care in El Centro or allvalleycares.com.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Really appreciate it.
Let's bring in Dr. Vleet.
We've had Dr. Vleet on the show many times before.
Dr. Vleet, thank you very much for joining us.
And Dr. Malone, take it away.
dr robert malone
So, Dr. Vliet, over a year ago, you published an article in the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons titled, In War on COVID-19, Doctors Need Freedom to Use Weapons at Hand.
And that gets right to the core of the issue.
And yet here we are a year later and physicians are still not able to practice medicine because of central edicts coming down from the CDC and the NIAID in terms of how thou shalt treat this disease.
Can you walk us through where that stands right now and the logic of states having the right to regulate medicine, not the federal government?
unidentified
Yes, thank you, Steve, and thank you, Dr. Malone.
It's absolutely interference with the practice of medicine.
In fact, I have spoken with pharmacies directly myself.
CVS has a corporate policy to direct their pharmacists not to dispense with a physician's legitimate prescription.
It's uncomfortable, it's an interference, and it cannot continue.
There are lawsuits underway to stop it.
Number one.
Number two, we also know that state governors are still interfering with the practice of medicine.
Politicians, not politicians.
And so we have to be careful.
Yes, states have always regulated the practice of medicine, but the Federation of State Medical Board, the central organization, is the one taking their marching order from the CDC and NIH to prevent doctors from practicing medicine.
They are issuing directions to the state medical board to our doctors.
We have many in our organization.
We have many writing into us at Truth for Health Foundation, a public charity advocating for the public good that President of and leading the state on medical freedom and prevention of censorship.
And one of the things that is happening is that this coordination of efforts, we have to remember, yes, under the 10th Amendment, it is states' rights to regulate the practice of medicine, but that is being regulated at the state level by politicians now, not by a physician, and by a coordinated effort to suppress medical freedom.
So, we need to attack the central issue of medical censorship of early treatment works.
Vaccines are not the sole answer.
Vaccines carry massive risk.
We just did an international press conference through the World Health Foundation on the vaccine threats to fertility, male and female, and pregnancy, that have been covered up since 2012, and we presented the scientific evidence.
steve bannon
I tell you what, Dr. Vliet, here's what we're going to do.
Let's reboot her so we can get a clearer signal.
We're going to take a short commercial break while we do that.
We're going to come back with Dr. Vliet, Dr. Malone.
And the question I'm going to put to you guys, if I cut on Rachel Maddow at night or MSNBC or CNN, I've got the Surgeon General, I've got Sanjay Gupta, I've got every doctor they're rolling out that says you guys are nothing but a bunch of quacks.
And you're dangerous.
And in fact, the number one problem we have in medicine today is misinformation.
The biggest threat in public health is misinformation put out by a bunch of quacks.
So we're gonna put that question to Dr. Malone, Dr. Vliet, when we return in The War Room.
unidentified
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rachel maddow
In that state that frankly has enough to deal with, they are now facing a new challenge related to COVID.
The Mississippi State Department of Health confirming today that quote, at least 70% of the recent calls to poison control in Mississippi have been related to ingestion of livestock or animal formulations of ivermectin purchased at livestock supply centers.
Ivermectin.
Why are people taking livestock formulations of Ivermectin in Mississippi?
Ivermectin, livestock formulation, that's a horse dewormer.
Literally, people won't take the vaccine because they're super suspicious of that, but they're taking horse deworming medication that they're buying at a feed store?
For COVID?
unidentified
Okay.
rachel maddow
Why on top of everything else?
steve bannon
This is Rachel Maddow.
This is Rachel Maddow.
The headline, the lead story in the CNN is not Afghanistan.
It is that COVID reaches astronomical levels in Louisiana.
These are all red states they're pointing to.
The problem is the Surgeon General says we have a pandemic of the unvaccinated and that the biggest threat we have out there right now is not the Delta variant.
Nope.
It is the misinformation that spun By quacks like Dr. Vleet and Dr. Malone.
So, I want to go to you first.
By the way, it could be Dr. Vleet or Dr. Malone.
Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic, I think, used by vets in horses.
How did we get in the situation that we're purporting Ivermectin and allowed us to be mocked and ridiculed by Rachel Maddow on her Friday night show, Dr. Malone?
dr robert malone
So, Lee, thanks for letting me take that.
I raise horses.
The horse formulation and the cattle formulation I strongly recommend that you do not use.
The cattle is for injection.
But what this shows is how desperate people are for early therapy.
They're being blocked from getting access to early therapy and they're resorting to extraordinary measures because their docs cannot prescribe it and the pharmacies won't fill it.
But the evidence is clear, and I've used it myself, that ivermectin is potent.
It's not a perfect drug, but when administered early, it can really mitigate disease.
steve bannon
Okay, Dr. Vliet, let me go to you.
Maybe the point is that early therapeutics are not the solution, and that ultimately the solution is either herd immunity, which they don't count on anymore, or the vaccine.
What say you, ma'am?
unidentified
Early therapeutics have worked incredibly well.
I didn't have a single patient I treated early go in the hospital or die.
And that Rachel Maddow is responsible in lying to the public that what she's saying, people are using horse medicine.
They are the ones blocking the people from knowing the truth.
They are censoring our effort to use an FDA approved ivermectin Prescription formulation for humans, properly, at the right dosage for people, at the right time, and then claiming that we are the ones that are the problem.
No.
They are the ones that are a problem.
They are costing lives with these lies and fiction.
steve bannon
Okay, you sure?
You had something right there, Dr. Lone, you want me to see?
dr robert malone
Yeah, can you TF the Noble Eye slides from Slate?
steve bannon
Yes.
dr robert malone
So I'd like to read a quote from Slate Magazine, not known to be a radical right-wing publication.
steve bannon
It's not a MAGA publication, let's say this.
dr robert malone
Exaggerating the risk of the virus in the moment and failing to explore middle ground positions is a reflexive attempt to vaccinate at all costs by creating fear in the public is a logical error called the fallacy of the excluded middle.
Now, Peter Navarro and I, when we were on with you folks a few weeks ago, we made the point that there is a middle ground.
There is an alternative strategy.
It's the one being deployed in Sweden.
It's the one that we should do.
It's the ethical one.
We need to allow people like Drs.
Bleat and Tyson to practice medicine.
to allow them to provide patients options other than go to the emergency room only when your lips are blue.
Okay?
If we administer early treatment, and this is being seen worldwide, including by these two very experienced physicians, by administering early treatment, we keep folks out of the hospital and keep them from dying.
That's very clear, but you got to get it early.
steve bannon
Dr. Vleet, I know you're one of the tips of the spear here about the states have got to get more engaged and it's really at the state level to not interfere in a doctor-patient relationship.
How do people get to your site?
How do they find out more information about you?
We're obviously going to have you back on here, but walk people through this weekend how they can get to you and how they can get up to speed on this.
unidentified
Our website is truthforhealth.org.
We are a public charity and we are advocating for the public We just did an international press conference on the vaccine threats to fertility with worldwide, world-renowned scientists and physicians talking about the research that has been suppressed and known since 2012 at least.
We have another press conference coming up on August the 26th where we will be addressing additional issues with health care workers talking about the problems they are having in treating Patients and talking about the vaccine risk that's still being kept from the public awareness.
We've got to focus on early treatment.
That is what had worked all last year.
Peter McCullough and his whole team led a research-based effort that has been extraordinarily successful.
We must get that out to the public and people need to stand up, get loud, and push back against these Uncomfortable and unconstitutional mandates for vaccination and interference with their right to work with their position for the treatment based on their individual needs.
It's freedom choice.
steve bannon
Dr. Vliet, thank you very much.
Honored to have you on here.
By the way, in New York City, they've started this vaccine passport.
You can't go to the grocery store, you can't go into a place to get a beer or eat.
Only 29% of African Americans in New York City are vaccinated.
You know why?
They haven't seen the evidence yet.
The case has not been made to the African American community in New York City.
There's full access to the vaccine.
They're vaccine hesitant for a reason.
They're logical, they're rational, and they want to see the facts, right?
Not this kind of medical imperialism.
Real quickly, for a turn to Dr. Homer, did you ever think, and what's amazing me is, like I said, this is not my line of country, but I know people that have reputations and experience.
When I look at the level of quality of the people throughout the world, their reputations, etc., seeing them trashed, By other members of their own profession.
Did you ever think we'd get to this day?
I mean, it's a firefight out there with some of the most greatest physicians in the world and people just everyday trashing them like their professional careers have meant nothing.
dr robert malone
It's a concerted effort that's funded by Facebook and Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, which is J&J's major stockholder, and the Gates Foundation and a number of other large players that are pushing out these personal attacks through pop-up fact-checker sites.
Peter and I had an attack on the Washington Times article.
It was just intended to provide an alternate strategy.
steve bannon
They tried to blow you guys up because that was a very powerful piece.
We're going to put it back up today in the website.
Okay, let's go to Dr. Homer.
Dr. Homer joined us, a pathologist, joined us a couple weeks ago.
Dr. Maloney, you want to take it from here?
We've got about six minutes in this segment.
Dr. Homer, stay with us through the break.
dr robert malone
Hi, Dr. Homer.
You've given us a nice summary of kind of personal experience, walked us through that and mapped it into the reality here.
And it feeds in directly to the evidence that, for instance, the Pfizer vaccine durability is at best poor.
And in your experience, it appears that it's five months, perhaps.
Can you kind of carry us through what you've seen?
unidentified
Well, first of all, thank you very much for the opportunity to speak to you, Dr. Malone, on The War Room.
It's a real pleasure.
Yeah, I have personal experience with this.
My wife and I are vaccinated.
We took a Johnson & Johnson vaccine in the middle of March.
In May, I measured our spike protein antibodies.
Now, I know the CDC says don't measure spike protein antibodies, but I'm a pathologist and I'm incorrigible, so I measured spike protein antibodies.
And sure enough, we both had spike protein antibodies.
This is the antibody that you ought to have after having taken a vaccine.
So it worked!
But I didn't stop there.
I decided to measure again a few months later.
So just a couple of weeks ago, I measured spike protein levels again.
And mine are not detectable.
I've got a vaccine card.
I can go eat in one of those restaurants in New York City that folks who don't have a vaccine card can.
But I have no evidence of antibody-based immunity in my blood.
steve bannon
Hang on a second because this was Tony Fauci was on Andrea Mitchell two days ago and she says hey I'm not a professional but shouldn't we try to like after you get the vaccine test for the antibodies and he just goes absolutely cannot happen it's not efficient I mean he kind of freaked out is this why because he freaked out is this why?
unidentified
We have no guidance in the medical community what Antibody levels we ought to be looking at.
What antibody levels might be too much?
We're just told don't test.
Take the vaccine.
Get the card.
The card is what you need.
And what I'm trying to say is the card is a silly piece of paper.
The card doesn't mean what we think the card means.
We're dividing people not based on anything that's rational.
We're dividing people on whether or not they have a card or not.
steve bannon
On the FDA approval, please tell me that in the approval process for the Pfizer that won the biggest test is this thing right here, the antibodies after you've taken and how the durability of the antibodies, they have to present to the public or to you in the scientific community exactly his point.
And what Fauci was so freaked about, will they present what the antibodies are?
Because that's the only thing that counts, correct?
dr robert malone
Well, no, there's also cytotoxic T-lymphocytes are also important in innate immune responses.
steve bannon
Dr. Homer knows this very well.
But if you don't have the antibodies, that obviates the other two, doesn't it?
dr robert malone
That was the whole logic of the strategy with the spike protein was to have inactivating or neutralizing antibodies against the receptor-binding domain.
Is that my correct, Dr. Homer?
That's the way I understand it.
We also earlier had a presentation, I think it was in the Forbes magazine, that the efficacy for blocking transmissibility is about 39%.
So that further underscores your point.
These, not only are the vaccine cards non-predictive, For whether or not you're going to be potentially infected and shedding virus, but we know the basic protection rate from infection replication and shedding is less than 40%.
We know that the titers, the level of virus in infected people that have been previously vaccinated is at least as high if not higher than the people that were unvaccinated.
Basically, Dr. Homer, What does this mean about the ability of the vaccine and the vaccination to predict whether or not you're going to be at risk for spreading virus to other people if you go into public places?
unidentified
Well, I think I have to assume that I don't have a very robust immune response.
I really don't know that for sure, and like you say, the immune system's very complicated.
I don't want to say that not having detectable antibodies is the same thing as not having immunity.
The fact is, we don't know.
But we do know this data that's coming out of Israel right now, and Israel's, I think, a very good case study, because it's a highly vaccinated country, And what they're finding is that the people that during this Delta wave the people that took their vaccines early ...are being reinfected at a higher rate than people who took their vaccines later.
Same vaccine.
dr robert malone
And I'd like to segue, I'd like to segue to the other side on exactly that point.
Are you ready to talk to us a little bit about antibody-dependent enhancement?
I suspect as a Board of Pathologists, you understand it.
steve bannon
When we come back, we're going to get right to that question.
Short commercial break.
Be back in the War Room.
Dr. Homer, Dr. Malone, in a moment.
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Okay, Dr. Malone, this is very important.
Give us that question again to Dr. Homer.
dr robert malone
Dr. Homer, you're a board-certified pathologist.
What are these dropping titers at six months or before?
And this is a second vaccine now that you're discussing.
What do they mean?
unidentified
Well, I'll tell you how they're going to be interpreted.
They're going to be misinterpreted.
They're going to be interpreted as reason that we all need boosters.
But that's not the message that we should be taking from what we're seeing.
The message that we should be taking is that the eradication of the virus is not possible with these kinds of leaky vaccines.
Time's going to prove that correct.
We need a clear, sensible, achievable objective in this war on the pandemic, and until we have that, we're going to have chaos.
steve bannon
Real quickly, Doctor, because we're going to have you guys back on this too big a topic, particularly the FDA approval.
What would be that Do you have an idea what that strategy would be?
unidentified
If this is not the one to pursue, what would it be?
It's the one that Dr. Tyson said.
He didn't have a single death.
We need to be keeping people alive.
And once you suborn vaccination and universal vaccination to the goal of keeping people alive, Then it becomes a useful tool, and we can do exactly what Dr. Malone has laid out in his piece with Dr. Navarro.
We can use the vaccines to protect those that are most susceptible, and we can not put pressure on this virus to mutate in the way that it's mutating right now.
I mean, I think what we're seeing out of Israel is really scary, and you know, Dr. Malone can I can explain about ADE in ways that I can't, but what I can do is look and see the people who were vaccinated early, those early adopters, they're not only having more infection rates, but Dr. Lewinsky even, Director of CDC, said that they are having more serious disease.
That's scary.
steve bannon
Dr. Homer, how do people get to you?
unidentified
How do they follow you during the working week?
Our website is BetterPathology.com and I'm Kevin Homer, MD, on Getter, Twitter, other places.
steve bannon
Okay, we'll get that in the live chat.
Sir, thank you very much.
Real quickly before we go to Alabama, what about this AD, Israel?
He says you would be able to define it.
Tell us what's the issue.
dr robert malone
So, the vaccine, there are many mechanisms that some vaccines can cause enhanced disease.
We spoke about this in the opening, and we spoke about it with Peter, and the biggest window for one of those key mechanisms, antibody-dependent enhancement, the biggest window for risk is when the vaccine titers are dropping.
So, what it suggests is the possibility that we may have
enhanced disease and enhanced replication starting at about five to six months after receiving shots and there are there is emerging information in the Israeli database suggesting that might be the case and then we had this recent bombshell that was dropped by the CDC but kind of buried under the lead that they're seeing increased disease in people that have been vaccinated at at six months prior.
steve bannon
That's the presentation.
Okay, we're going to have you.
By the way, Monday, the FDA is going to say, the New York Times is reporting they're going to formally approve the Pfizer vaccine, formal FDA approval, which is going to be a game changer.
Let's go real quickly to Ben Berquam, our investigative reporter, Real America's Voice.
Real America's Voice is going to be covering this for multiple hours.
He's in Alabama, massive crowd.
Ben, put us in the field out there.
What's it like?
What's happening?
What are people saying?
ben bergquam
Hey Steve, we're down here, obviously Alabama, big state for President Trump.
We've got the Front Row Joe's guys, huge flags behind us.
They've been lined up for days.
The line goes all the way down to where they're going to be screening.
It comes around the corner here.
They're expecting, the numbers I've heard, between 20,000 and 30,000.
It could be more.
Could be a muddy mess, but everyone that I've talked to said they don't care, rain or shine, this is the place to be.
And for a number of reasons.
Alabama was where President Trump held his first rally in 2015.
It's also where this district, the 4th Congressional District, is where he got the highest vote percentages for both 2016 and 2020.
And with everyone speculating on President Trump making an announcement soon, it's no wonder that he's here.
And I think with what's going on in Afghanistan, with our open borders that we've been showing, just the total overrun that we see going on at our borders, and the ineptitude of this current regime, People are hungry for it.
People all over, not just Alabama, but all over the South.
I spoke to somebody from New York who came down just for this.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Okay, by the way, it's going to be on Getter.
You're going to have all types of content.
Real America's Voice coverage is going to start when?
I know the President takes the stage, I think, scheduled at 8 p.m.
Eastern Time.
I think it's 7 p.m.
local time.
When is the Real America's Voice coverage start, Ben?
ben bergquam
Last I heard, we're going to be live at 5.
So we're talking 5 o'clock Eastern.
So we're talking lots of coverage.
We're going to be talking to folks on the ground.
We're going to be bringing it to you.
The people, where they came from, why they're here, why it's important to them, what they want to hear.
5 o'clock Eastern time.
We're here with the Save America Freedom Tour bus as well.
It's going to be an awesome day.
steve bannon
Okay, Ben, thank you very much.
Live report from Alabama from where it's going to be a Mo Brooks rally.
President Trump, I got to tell you, it's going to be big.
This is a very important speech.
He's going to have a lot to say.
He started today by saying he needs to be new leadership in the White House.
He started the week by saying Joe Biden needs to resign.
Captain Bannon, what are your coordinates?
I know you're going to be on Getter tonight.
What are your coordinates?
People want to keep up with you during the day of all the breaking news you're putting out about Afghanistan.
maureen bannon
On Instagram at Real Maureen Bannon, and on Twitter and Getter at Maureen underscore Bannon.
And I just want to address one last thing.
In that Pentagon brief, they're putting out that 2,500 Americans have been evac'd.
Joe Biden in his briefing said 169.
It just shows that this regime in the White House does not have any idea how many Americans have been properly evac'd from this country.
steve bannon
From Afghanistan.
I knew you had to come with a little heat for that.
Dr. Malone, honored to have you on here.
Fantastic.
We've got to have you back on Monday.
How big a day?
30 seconds.
How big is this FDA approval on Monday?
What happens?
dr robert malone
I think it's going to trigger a whole storm because now the gloves are off.
They can impose mandatory vaccination on hospitals, universities, etc.
as soon as they have an approved product.
steve bannon
The firestorm's about to start.
We told you it was going to be around August 15th.
It's a late couple of days because now it's going to start.
They understand the women in this country are standing up about their kids.
Medical workers are standing up.
Doctors, some of the best doctors in the nation are standing up.
Now the fight really starts.
Monday when the FDA approves it.
Dr. Malone, I look forward to having you back on the show.
You've become not just a national hero, you've become an international hero in this.
We thank you so much.
Okay, make sure you tune back in.
5 o'clock Eastern.
We're going to start coverage, Real America's Voice, of this amazing, very important speech tonight by Donald J. Trump, the 45th President of the United States.
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