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Episode 1,333 - MTG And Matt Gaetz Stop By For Jan 6th RoundtableEpisode 1,333 - MTG And Matt Gaetz Stop By For Jan 6th Roundtable
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marjorie taylor greene
05:46
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matt gaetz
05:53
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peter navarro
18:20
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ben bergquam
04:24
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anthony fauci
00:10
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dr robert malone
00:26
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mike lindell
00:56
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The virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
You don't want to frighten the American public.
unidentified
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
This is going to be a real serious problem.
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
peter navarro
Peter Navarro sitting in for Stephen K. Bannon.
Steve will be with us momentarily on the phone.
We have a blockbuster show today, absolutely breaking news, and we have two of the people with us who broke some of that news today.
I want to start with clips, Denver.
Give me the clip of clip three and clip five if you would.
unidentified
We have masks on and everyone here has their masks on.
We're just going to go inside and currently, as the Department of Immigration has said, we're going to be in a powder and we're just here to ask questions.
matt gaetz
And now they've locked the door and have not given us access.
This was apparently a bait and switch.
We were here just to speak to a supervisor, and when the supervisor came out and we came out to have that discussion, they literally ran behind us and locked the doors.
unidentified
Because they don't want to know what's happening inside.
administration where prison is used to lock people out.
Instead of locking people in, they lock them in.
matt gaetz
After asking questions for months, after being ignored for months, after sending notice that we would be arriving, and then after arriving, we were unable to get any answers and we still have gotten no answers.
But we're not the type of members of Congress who just go away.
We continue to show up and press these issues because whether it's access to evidence or treatment of people, we have a job to do here to conduct oversight.
peter navarro
We have followed on this show the plight of the people behind bars, suffering worse than terrorists at Guantanamo Bay.
We had a number of congressmen have the courage today to go down Personally to the DC Jail and investigate these conditions as you can see in this clip that they were rebuffed But I'm pleased to welcome to the war room Matt Gates and MTG Start with you MTG.
What was the purpose of going down to the jail today?
And what do you know about the condition of the folks as they are being treated?
marjorie taylor greene
We decided to go to the jail today because we've sent letters, we've asked many questions, what's happening to these detainees.
We've heard all the stories and the stories are horrifying.
We're hearing the abuse that these people have been through.
We're hearing that they don't get to meet with their attorneys, talk to their family members.
We've heard about solitary confinement.
We've heard about beatings.
We've heard so many bad things.
And as members of Congress, we have oversight over these type of institutions like federal prisons.
We go to detention centers at the border.
We walk through and see everything there.
We vote to fund these places.
And we went there to ask questions and see what's happening there in the prison here in Washington, D.C.
We were told we were trespassing, which was unbelievable.
They told members of Congress that we were trespassing.
Their attitudes were defiant, completely defiant, and then as you just saw in the clip, Where you saw Matt locked out when he walked up to the door, even with his mask on.
They asked him to wear the mask.
Locked out and he was, you know, asking nicely, may we come in?
We were waiting to talk to the supervisor and they didn't want to talk to us.
peter navarro
Let me ask, let me ask Matt this.
I think you're a lawyer.
Is that correct?
unidentified
I am, yeah.
peter navarro
You are a lawyer.
Recovery.
matt gaetz
So let me ask you this.
peter navarro
What do we know about any, is there been any charging documents of these folks?
I mean, look, there was, there was significant violence on Capitol Hill.
We do not condone any of that.
marjorie taylor greene
Correct.
peter navarro
But at the same time, as I understand it, nobody In jail has been charged with insurrection.
Nobody's been really charged with an offense that would be warranting essentially a no bail Guantanamo Bay type situation.
Matt, what do you know as a congressman, as a lawyer about the status of these detainees?
matt gaetz
Not nearly enough.
We sent a letter to the Attorney General asking for the array of charges and the basis for the deprivations and liberty for these particular people.
And we are not here to prejudge any particular case or advocate for any particular detainee.
Our concern is for the American system of justice.
Because what we know is the world is watching.
And if the Biden administration just utilizes power to keep people locked up, maybe with Incomplete charges, maybe with misdemeanor charges, well then that justifies some of the worst actions of some of the worst despots in the world.
We were hopeful to get answers, to review them, and to engage in a thoughtful process.
The Attorney General of the United States would not allow us into the lobby at the Department of Justice.
peter navarro
Do the numbers for me.
unidentified
Do we know how many people are actually... Over 500 people have been arrested.
matt gaetz
And it's unclear as to the status of how many are at this particular facility or elsewhere.
peter navarro
And how many of them were arrested in the possession of guns or other... We're unaware of any weapons charges.
And of those people in there, what percentage of them do we know anything about were the most, let's say the most violent, the ones that might have broken windows or acted aggressively?
Because if you look at the videos of this, there were a lot of people
matt gaetz
Inside the perimeter who appear to be just well, that's the point Peter You see the point is if we segregate out the violent individuals and deal with those cases fairly in our criminal justice system Then we can move on from this and work on important issues like confronting China, but you see they don't want to do that What they want to do is use January 6th as a blood libel against the entire MAGA America first How can they keep this information from the American people?
peter navarro
How do we not know?
Who's in there?
How do we not know?
I mean, how do we not know that?
marjorie taylor greene
I am appalled.
It's like a two-tier justice system, right?
It's where these January 6th defendants or Trump supporters can be detained, and then they refuse to answer any questions.
But for Antifa and BLM rioters, it's catch and release.
And there is no apologies, and they do not feel like they owe us any answers.
And I'll tell you, My personal belief is this regime, this Biden regime, it has gone so far left.
They're not even an American party anymore.
It's basically what we would see in like communist China.
matt gaetz
It felt that way.
It had that feel, Peter, when we were there and these folks reacted to us so viscerally.
peter navarro
How many of these people have lawyers of their own as opposed to public offenders?
And of those, are you able to talk to the lawyers?
Would you be able to schedule visits?
Are they under such Such fascist rule right now that they're literally you can't touch or reach them?
matt gaetz
Those basic questions that you're asking constitute the questions that we have asked for months with no response.
And so it's frustrating to not be able to answer these questions for you.
I'm on the damn Judiciary Committee and I can't answer these questions for you.
These are basic questions.
peter navarro
Let's be clear to the American people.
These are the most basic questions.
matt gaetz
Exculpatory evidence.
unidentified
What do they do?
peter navarro
What are they charged with?
matt gaetz
But I think there's another explanation here for why they are deviating so greatly from normal standards.
Because if you treat these people like anyone else that might have committed a federal misdemeanor, then you can't say that this is an ongoing national security threat.
So I believe that there are people who under almost any other circumstance would be out on the road in recognizance, but to make a political point are behind bars right now because the Biden administration, the intelligence community, they want to turn these exquisite authorities in the national security apparatus inward to the American people to hunt our people. I wonder what do we know about the people who aren't in jail right now who should be that might have been part of what looks to be some kind of entrapment or instigation?
unidentified
Are you tracking that as Congress people?
marjorie taylor greene
I talked to a couple of people when we were in California.
I went and visited the church that Tim Thompson has, that he was arrested, one of the pastors arrested in California during the shutdowns.
And I met several people there, and they were telling me terrible stories.
But they were just here in Washington, D.C., the two men.
They were on Capitol grounds, but they did not go into the Capitol at all.
The FBI raided their homes in the middle of the night.
They took pictures of their daughters, one man's daughter's drawing of her holding an American flag that said, I'm a patriotic American.
They drug the other man's wife out of the bed, handcuffed her.
She was in her nightclothes.
They took her outside and the newspaper happened to be there and took pictures of her and that ended up on the front page newspaper and she wasn't even in Washington D.C.
She was in California on January 6th.
matt gaetz
That would ruin her life.
What Peter wants to know though is are there animating elements of the criminal conduct Within our government, or manipulated by our government, or directed by our government.
peter navarro
And let me just refer you to this issue of Michigan, where we discovered that of the 18 people involved in the attempted kidnapping of Governor Whitmer there, 12 of them, 12 of them, Twelve of them were FBI including the main architects, okay, so I mean that that is to me. That's the clearest case of Hoover ask entrapment I've ever seen now if I was a local prosecutor in Michigan
matt gaetz
Yes, I would indict the FBI under a Rico theory so the question is Did that happen here Well, the very person who was running the field office in Michigan that oversaw that operation got a big promotion and ended up in Washington D.C.
at the head shed.
That's great reporting from Revolver News that people should check out.
And so it wouldn't be unreasonable to say, gosh, the thing that got me the promotion, animating criminal conduct within an organization, to be able to To bring the full weight of the law against that organization, to see that replicated in some other way.
peter navarro
Are you two able to do anything formally with any kind of significant powers to conduct an alternative investigation, what happened in January 6th, to get to the bottom of this entrapment issue, to get to the bottom of why these people, many of them are in jail without bail, that likely should at least be released or charged.
matt gaetz
We are not going to be able to utilize the powers of the House of Representatives to do that, but Marjorie Taylor Greene is suing Nancy Pelosi.
She is not just in the chamber, and so I think we may have to use the legal process.
We may have to seek subpoena power in some way.
We may have to even rely on some of our partners in the Senate.
peter navarro
Is that real?
So why haven't we done that?
marjorie taylor greene
Well, you know, here's the problem.
This town is ridiculous.
It's broken.
Let's talk about that.
peter navarro
Is McCarthy on board on this?
marjorie taylor greene
No, here's what I want to say.
We need to redefine Congress and that is exactly what we are doing.
I don't care how it normally works here in Washington DC.
I don't care how the House of Representatives normally runs.
We're in unprecedented times where we're talking about the FBI.
Befriending people and setting up crimes, and possibly that's what happened here at January 6, too.
So I don't care how it's normally done.
I'm going to find other ways to do it, and that's exactly what we're doing.
peter navarro
Let me ask you guys.
matt gaetz
And they can't hide forever, Peter, because they've got to show up and give testimony.
peter navarro
You have so much access.
To information, what do you guys know about what we knew before January 6th in law enforcement at the Pentagon that we did not act on?
In other words, was this, as Steve says, was this an information failure or was it information warfare?
Did we know, did the DC Police, the Capitol Police, did we know that something was going to happen and just didn't do it?
Was it something else?
I mean, what do we know about that?
Have we gotten to the bottom of that?
What do we know and when did we know it?
marjorie taylor greene
Well, we have been told that the intelligence was there, that there was going to be violence on January 6th.
Everyone knows about the pipe bombs on January 5th.
We also know that the National Guard was requested to be at the Capitol, and I was told personally by a Capitol Police officer that there were 500 officers ready to come from the National Guard.
They were ready to go.
They were never given the order to go to the Capitol, and that responsibility falls squarely on the Speaker of the House, and that's Nancy Pelosi.
peter navarro
Alright, we're going to take a break shortly.
Steve is going to phone in on that.
We're going to take a trip to the border.
With Ben Berquam and have Matt and MGT talk about that as well.
You are in the war room.
This is an intolerable situation.
If we don't get to the bottom of January 6th, if we don't get to the bottom of November 3rd, we are not going to have a republic here.
And these two fighters are what we need to get to the bottom of that.
We'll be right back.
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peter navarro
of America. We.
We have over 10 million Americans now unemployed, and we're going to have 10 million illegal aliens coming over the border over the next few years, and that's not an exaggeration.
Tell me what that number is again?
Did you say?
Alright, let's understand.
unidentified
Go to 2019.
peter navarro
That was the height of when We had the issue is 150,000 border apprehensions.
That's how many people we caught.
And so you don't catch everybody.
So what that tells you is well over a million came into this country.
And just remember here that just about everybody that we quote apprehend catch is released into the U.S. So 2019 gives you an idea of the demand for crossing the border from illegal aliens. And as we open up the floodgates here, I will tell you that in 2021, 2022, we are going to see millions of illegal aliens come across the southern border. That's a fact that will happen.
unidentified
It has to do with the protection of the Constitution, the protection of our sovereignty, the protection of the United States and also the state of Texas.
And remember, this is happening in Arizona, happening in California as well.
And they're not being allowed to exercise those rights, those abilities of the scope of their employment.
The Biden administration has basically dismantled the authority of the Border Patrol to allow them to do their jobs.
Forget the Interior Enforcement advice, that has almost completely been abolished.
peter navarro
Peter Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon.
We have Berkquam, brother Ben Berkquam on the border and we've got Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene in the house.
I listened to Ben this morning and the thing that really blasted me was the idea that as these illegal aliens are flooding over the border There seems to be some effort to get them vaccinated, and I'd love to know whether that's an official task of the Biden regime or something else, but Ben, give us your assessment, and Matt and Marjorie, feel free to interrogate Ben in real time here.
Brother Ben, you look marvelous.
ben bergquam
Thank you, Peter.
From what we're seeing, that is not happening at all.
In fact, we're not even, in most cases, getting COVID testing of the people that are coming across.
I spoke to Brandon Judd earlier, and he said that the people that they are holding in U.S.
custody that they suspect of having COVID, they will test.
But most of these people are not being held in custody.
They are so overrun.
Border Patrol is so overrun.
Over a million apprehensions this year.
This is, like you said, uncharted territory, and it continues to happen.
I've been standing here going back and forth in Acuna all day, And it's been non-stop.
People from Haiti, people from Venezuela, we had people from Cameroon coming across.
It's non-stop here.
They've got the word.
America is open for business.
And as the lockdowns continue, as you're being told to put the face diaper back on your face, and that you have to get a vaccine, we are being overrun at our southern border.
And I believe it goes back to the reason why we're having these sham investigations about January 6th, and why we're holding these political prisoners, why we don't have equal justice under the law, why we're not doing the things to secure our elections for 2022.
Because the Democrats know, if the American people see what's really happening, There's going to be such outcry.
There's going to be such an uproar across this country.
They will finally be held accountable.
But it's always this bait-and-switch.
Where is CNN?
Where is MSNBC?
Where are they telling you?
peter navarro
Ben, let me ask you this question.
You heard the cold open months ago.
I predicted that we'd have at least 2 million illegal aliens crossing the border in 2021.
Is it going to turn out that even though I was accused of wiling, exaggerating the numbers at the time, I'm going to be actually well below the number?
I mean, what you're seeing, tell us what you think and then Matt or Marjorie chime in here.
ben bergquam
Yes, what I'm hearing from Border Patrol, we've already got over a million.
We're just over halfway through the year.
And what I'm being told is they still estimate that they're only catching a third to a half of what's actually coming across.
They've had 200,000 getaways, so they've had a million apprehensions, plus a million was a month ago.
You add to what they've had this month, and what I've seen today, it's the worst I've ever seen it.
You had 200,000 getaways, and you add the potential, you know, three times to five times what they're actually apprehending compared to what's actually getting in.
And then you look at the map of where COVID's spreading, And you ask yourself, I just want one real reporter in that White House to ask the question, how many of these people coming across have the Delta variant and where are you sending them?
Are you sending them to the red states that we see this supposed uptick in COVID?
Not a single supposed journalist has asked that question.
I want to hear somebody ask it.
peter navarro
And Ben, to be clear here, this is pure catch-and-release policy, right?
Even though they're being, quote, apprehended, it's basically that they give a court date for some future date that they will never basically adhere to.
matt gaetz
Yeah, I have a question, Ben.
This is Matt Gates.
Are we seeing a number of these illegal aliens just surrender themselves, or do we see a substantial number attempting to get away?
You know, when I spoke with Border Patrol, they were surprised at the number who just walk up and say, I'm here to surrender, because they know that a surrender will not result in a detainment.
It will result in them getting a taxpayer-funded plane ticket anywhere in the country where they can claim that they have a connection.
ben bergquam
Both are happening and what we've seen going on and you can see the video that was from earlier today from this location.
We've had about 10 different groups come just through here.
And by the way, thank you Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz.
Thank you for the work.
We need more representatives like you that are actually out there fighting.
Most of them in Washington are doing absolutely nothing.
If anything, they're making it worse.
But what we see is twofold.
So we've got the people like you see here in this video going across and they're turning themselves in to Border Patrol.
These are the people that have been trained by leftist activists in Central America and Mexico and South America being told all you have to do is turn yourself in you get a free plane ticket around the country. Those people end up being the distraction that the cartel uses to push their drugs in all the around the rest of the country and so as as we've got these large groups and in some cases up to a thousand crossing at once in one location then you've got just up river you've got the drug smugglers and the sex offenders.
peter navarro
Let me ask this question to you and also Matt and Marjorie.
Are you boots on the ground able to track down where these planes are flying from?
And if not, to Matt and Marjorie, is there any intelligence on that?
Because I did see one segment on the news the other day about a plane flying out of Texas, but what do we know about that, Ben?
Where are these illegal aliens being given their free plane ticket?
Do you know?
Does Matt know?
Does Marjorie know?
marjorie taylor greene
Well, first off, can I say hi to Ben?
peter navarro
Yeah, let's get Marjorie in here.
marjorie taylor greene
Hi!
I love you, too.
For everyone listening and watching this show, if you don't know Ben, I'm going to tell you right now, I've known him for years, and this man knows everything going on at the border.
I'm not kidding.
He has more friends and connections, and everything he tells you in all of his reporting is accurate, and he also goes all over the country.
He is a great patriot.
Now, Ben, I know that you've gone into Mexico a good bit with your friends there and the people you know.
I don't know about airplanes, but I know about drones because that was something Anthony had shown us before.
What are you seeing with those drones?
ben bergquam
Yeah, back to Peter's point, and thank you Marjorie, it was such an honor walking through the halls of Congress.
uh... before you became a congresswoman to confront nancy pelosi now uh... you're able to do it officially and god bless you keep it up this uh... this is so to answer the question they're being flown all over the country we know that for a fact if you go to mccallan airports if you go to any of the airports along the border you'll see people with i didn't know envelopes and it says i don't speak english please help me i don't know where to go these are illegal aliens are being flown around the country but uh... as they used to be airport used to be packed
and in order to uh... not show the american people how bad it was they've actually started chartering private planes and putting them filling planes and sending them around we've also got word that they're using air force bases here in texas to use the uh...
force resources to send these people around the country.
peter navarro
So, Ben, Matt and Marjorie, is there any way we can track this?
marjorie taylor greene
We need to know who's paying for that.
Is it tax dollars?
matt gaetz
I can tell you this, Peter.
We're going to be taking some votes on it in the House Armed Services Committee because I'm going to introduce amendments to the National Defense Authorization Act to prohibit the use of the United States military for these purposes.
peter navarro
Let's think about this.
This is outrageous.
It's like you're throwing open the border to the largest influx of illegal immigrants we've ever had in the middle of a pandemic, when a Delta variant, which is highly infectious, is coming in, and then these people are being put on planes to God knows where?
matt gaetz
If you don't think this is affecting every state in America, you are not paying attention.
The United States government has become the largest human trafficker in the world because we take these people at the border and then we often are sending them to other cartel handlers who then have these people in indentured servitude and who continue to exploit them.
ben bergquam
I just real quick to Matt's point.
America is the number two country in the world for human trafficking.
That's modern-day slavery only followed by Russia.
Only behind Russia, excuse me.
And that is exactly right.
What we are doing right now, the American government is aiding and abetting human smuggling.
In fact, we are a part of human smuggling in America right now.
matt gaetz
We're the smuggler.
marjorie taylor greene
Right, helping the cartels make money.
But what Peter, what you said is so concerning to me.
I've been a business owner for over 20 years.
You just mentioned just a little bit ago about the millions of people that are coming into this country, and like Matt said, they're going into every single state.
And Ben is telling the same story.
And we have an economy that is being torn apart by this administration.
And that there be our people are being paid to stay home.
And then these people are just coming in our country.
And this is going to hurt Americans in so many ways.
peter navarro
And never mind that we've got our kids getting forced vaccines and masks.
We're going to take a break now and we come back at the bottom of the hour here.
We're going to have the op-ed editor of what I regard to be the best paper in this town, Washington Times, come in, Kelly Sadler.
From the Trump Administration.
We'll be right back and Matt and Marjorie are going to stay with us and talk a little bit about Op-Edland.
unidentified
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We're worrying too much about the rights, if you will, of the unvaccinated.
We've got to start focusing on protection of people who are going to get sick or ill or die.
Morally, the right thing to do now is to push for the mandates.
It doesn't mean you have to get vaccinated, but it does mean your freedom, your liberty is going to be restricted if you still pose a risk to other people.
So it's got to be vaccinate, Frequent testing, masking, or you're going to lose a lot of your job opportunities and you're going to lose a lot of your freedom to go where you want.
We've been worrying too much about the rights, if you will, of the unvaccinated.
We've got to start focusing on protection of people who are going to get sick or ill or die.
Morally, the right thing to do now is to push for the mandates.
It doesn't mean you have to get vaccinated, but it does mean your freedom, your liberty is going to be restricted if you still pose a risk to other people.
So it's got to be vaccinate, frequent testing, masking, or you're going to lose a lot of your job opportunities and you're going to lose a lot of your freedom to go where you want.
We've been worrying too much about the rights, if you will, of the unvaccinated.
We've got to start focusing on protection of people who are going to get sick or ill or die.
peter navarro
This is what's coming at you folks, okay?
That idiot, okay?
He does not understand the subtleties and nuances of this whole forced vaccination policy.
The idea that you force vaccinate our children.
The idea that you force vaccinate people who have already been infected and who have antibodies.
And that you would make that kind of rhetoric.
That's what we're up against here.
I'm pleased to welcome Kelly Sadler.
Kelly Sadler is a former colleague of mine at the White House.
She is now at one of the most important positions in journalism here in Washington, D.C.
as the editor of the op-ed page at the Washington Times, the one true paper now that actually is publishing opinion and facts on subjects that are otherwise forbidden to talk about in this town or in New York or in Silicon Valley, such as the forced vaccinations of our children, such as the crisis at our border.
So Kelly, I'd love to welcome you.
We've got Matt Gates and Marjorie Taylor Greene here with us.
Hi, Adam.
I want to start off by just want to start off by talking a little bit about what...
Tell us a little bit about, from a 30,000-foot view, kind of your reaction, first of all, to what you just heard, and then how you're dealing with that at The Washington Times and basically spitting into this wind of fascism.
unidentified
Yeah, well, I mean, I thought the line from the left is that, my body, my choice.
Right?
Like, I mean, that's what they've always said.
And when it comes to vaccinations, I'm sorry, we're going to mandate it like so.
Can the right say like anyone who's had an abortion, you gotta let your employer know and then it's their right if they want to hire you or not hire them based on the moral grounds here.
It is so absurd.
And it's the hypocrisy, too, that comes with the left.
The House has to wear masks, but the Senate doesn't.
Merrill Bowser's now issued an entire mask mandate based on what?
Based on what science, Peter?
And this is what we're trying to evaluate, is that the CDC made this guidance based off a study in India that has not been peer reviewed, that had a hundred people, healthcare workers, that were not vaccinated with the shots that were approved in America.
So where is this guidance coming from?
And we've been questioning this every step of the way.
When it came to hydro, oh my goodness, I always have a hard time saying this, hydroxychloroquine.
peter navarro
Hydroxychloroquine.
unidentified
And all of the other therapies that many doctors around the world rallied for, saying, yeah, if we treat these patients early on that have COVID-19, we've seen results.
All of that was banned.
It was banned by social media.
We were called misinformation spreaders.
But all of what we have been saying since the very beginning has been proven to be true. You just have to question. You've got to question the science, you've got to question the experts, and you've got to look into things.
peter navarro
To that point, your page was one of the very first places to basically say that the virus likely came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is, by the way, a P4 bioweapons lab that the People's Liberation Army of China operates. Weren't you the first one to say that, Peter?
Well, yeah, right here in the war room.
unidentified
No, no, I wasn't!
peter navarro
Here's the question.
Tell us about it, but I want you to tell us what happened in the aftermath on the social media.
We in Zuckerland and Dorseyland and Pichai.
You need to know, Wurrum, you need to know the names of these guys.
Zuckerberg, Dorsey and Pichai.
Pichai's at Google, Dorsey's the king at Twitter, and you're the Zuckerbuck's guy.
Tell us, give us some insight into the kind of challenges you faced in the wake of that.
unidentified
All right.
So in January 24th, 2020, so this is very early on.
This is before anyone was even focused on the coronavirus.
Bill Gertz, one of our columnists, wrote an article and it was entitled, Coronavirus May Have Originated in a Lab Linked to China's Bio-Warfare Program.
He cited an Israeli operative who went on the record and said that the Wuhan lab is linked to the Chinese military and they're developing bioweapons.
He went on the record to say this.
And so we produced a column.
That said, quoting from this respected Israeli intelligence officer, that this could be a possibility.
Immediately, as soon as the article was released, Bill and I and everyone was looking like, how do we find this online?
We couldn't find it online.
It was basically vanquished.
From social media.
And so then we go to Facebook, and then we go to Twitter, and then we go to Google.
We published this article, the article's up.
And they're just like, yeah, we're not sure if this is correct.
And so that's when they employed their fact checkers in the mainstream media.
peter navarro
Stop there just for a second, because I want to make a point.
It's like, it's like it wasn't just one place.
It was all of them, which suggests oligopolistic collusion here amongst these social media oligarchs.
unidentified
Yes, and what I'm also explicitly telling you is that these guys took it down and then were trying to justify the reason for taking it down, right?
Because we were asking them.
And then all of a sudden we saw fact-checking pop up from USA Today, from Politifact, saying that there is no evidence that the Wuhan Institute of Virology has any links to the Chinese military.
Because at that time, China was saying, that's absolutely untrue.
Like, we don't know where this... So they were taking CCP talking points to disprove Bill's article.
And then once they had those fact checks in hand, they came to us and they were like, you've got to retract this article, and you've got to take it down from your site.
We're not going to promote it, but you've got to retract it.
matt gaetz
Kelly, you've talked about the influence of the Chinese Communist Party on major influences within the United States.
Let me ask you about another powerful influence.
To what extent do you think your colleagues in the media are motivated by the massive advertising buys from Big Pharma in their coverage of these vaccines?
unidentified
I think that you can't discount that theory in the fact that you can't discount how the NIH And the CDC are influenced by the massive donations they get from the pharmaceutical industry every single day to fund their grant research, right?
And then these journalists are abundantly lazy.
Let's just call journalists lazy.
They like to get their talking points and they like to regurgitate.
And they are ideologically aligned with the left.
And so they'll take whatever they get from them and regurgitate them.
And so when their sources are against Trump, When they're against, you know, uncovering the truth, or they want to hide something, the mainstream media will happily run with that narrative.
In terms of the Washington Post, we know there's an insert every week that is sponsored by China.
And how much they want to rock that apple car, I don't know.
I'm not at the Washington Post, would never want to be at the Washington Post.
So I don't know the editorial control that they have over there.
But you've got to believe that it goes into their bottom line.
peter navarro
I want to talk a little bit about the whole forced vaccine policy.
How have you guys covered that and what kind of pushback have you gotten?
Have you looked at the issue of the forced vaccinations of the children and others?
unidentified
Absolutely.
And Peter, we published one of your articles that looked at this and looked at just the science and what that has told us.
And that tells us that children are basically, they're not immune, but even if they contract coronavirus, they will survive from it.
It is no worse for them than the flu.
Actually, the flu is worse for them to contract it and die from than coronavirus.
And so with these vaccines that are not FDA approved, Um, there's a lot of risks that go into this unknown science and why vaccinate if the flu is not vaccinated is not mandatory in in Virginia public school system.
The flu shot is not mandatory to send your Children to public education.
Why in the world parents want to vaccinate their Children with an unknown, you know, vaccination?
peter navarro
Yeah.
marjorie taylor greene
Right now, Kelly, have you been able to report about, there's so many women talking about having problems with their menstrual cycles and having miscarriages, and then these stories that we hear about young adults and even older teenagers having problems with their heart, where there's swelling in their heart, and there's all these stories of side effects from these vaccines that, like you said, are not FDA approved.
unidentified
Have you been able to report about those stories and what happens when you do Yes, and Cheryl has actually reported, Cheryl Clumley, one of our columnists, has reported on, you know, the side effects for young children, and why doesn't Dr. Fauci address these issues?
Because he never does, and he's never actually asked about them because the mainstream media wants to make sure that everyone is totally vaccinated.
We pushed those articles out.
It gets to our, you know, the grassroots space, but we see Google suppression on these stories.
Like if you were to Google, like the side effects of children getting the vaccination, you would never see Cheryl's story at the top of that Google search.
You'd have to go to page 10 in order to see it.
And this is another way that big tech is looking to suppress, you know, alternative voices.
peter navarro
Talk quickly, we've got about a minute left for you, the shadow banning at Twitter and kind of the games that Twitter plays.
What do you see at Twitter and Facebook in particular?
unidentified
Well, we see on some of our articles with some of our proud and truthful columnists That is so patronizing.
as misinformation and or if you want to retweet the article you're faced with did you read below the headline do you understand the content of this some are flagged in terms of patronizing yeah I know I know but it happens on most of our articles it does well then then what do you think about the legislation before Congress to break up big tech
matt gaetz
Do you think that would create more of an atmosphere for truth and more diverse ideas?
peter navarro
In 20 seconds or less.
unidentified
I want to see big tech broken up, but I think that the Washington Times is going to get on Gitter.
I think there needs to be other avenues where we can consume media that is not censored.
And obviously that's not happening with Google, Facebook or Twitter.
peter navarro
Amen to that.
Getter is the Twitter killer.
Getter is the Twitter killer.
You heard that here first, second, third, and a hundred times.
I just love saying that.
marjorie taylor greene
I'm on Getter.
matt gaetz
What's a get?
It's not a tweet.
What is it?
Is it a get?
A getter?
A getter done?
marjorie taylor greene
Getter done.
peter navarro
It's a Twitter killer.
marjorie taylor greene
Twitter killer.
unidentified
Leave it at that.
peter navarro
We'll be back.
In the meantime, support the Armored Piercing Shell.
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And we'll see you shortly.
It's been great to have Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene in the room.
And thank you, Kelly Sadler.
You're doing God's work there at the Washington Times.
unidentified
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peter navarro
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This man is on a mission, and we gotta help him out.
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unidentified
And guess what?
peter navarro
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A blind touch test for these things.
Like, with my old towels and new ones, I mixed them up and just, okay, you can tell which are the MyPillow towels.
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So, MyPillow.com today.
So, it's been fun sharing with you this hour.
I'm going to be...
Hosting the show on Saturday, and we're going to do, among other things, a special on this whole topic of a pandemic strategy.
And within the context of that, we're going to talk a lot about the wisdom or perhaps lack thereof of a kind of a shotgun approach to a forced vaccination policy.
So, to set that up a little bit, I want to play a clip from one of the most amazing interviews Stephen K. Bannon did last week on the special he did.
So, Denver, if you can load that up for me, we're going to hit clip number two, Dr. Malone.
dr robert malone
They have chosen to promote is that the only way that we can get back economically is to reach herd immunity.
Number two, that the only way to reach herd immunity is through vaccines.
And number three, that vaccines are perfectly safe.
And all three of those are demonstrably false.
But they got wrapped around the axle with this lie, and they can't back off.
They're too deep now.
peter navarro
Yeah, let's unpack that.
Malone is an amazing individual, and he's a credible Individual.
On any given day, if Malone's sitting at my left and Fauci's sitting on my right, a hundred out of a hundred times I'm going to trust Dr. Malone.
With respect to the vaccine, here's the thing.
It's like I had a hand in this with President Trump dating back to February of 2020 when I wrote a memo to the White House Coronavirus Task Force, February 9th to be exact.
It was about 10 days after President Trump courageously did the travel ban on China.
And what I said in that memo is that, hey, if we get off the dime now, we can have a vaccine mass produced 150 million doses as early as October or November.
And by the way, we would have gotten it by October if Pfizer, Big Pharma, and Albert Bourla, the CEO, hadn't collaborated and conspired with the FDA to stop that for political reasons, killed people.
That's another story we can talk about.
But the point is that Malone is the guy who invented, literally invented, the mRNA platform, which is responsible for two out of the three vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
And Doc Hatfield, Stephen Hatfield, he's a great friend of the War Room.
He's been on the War Room many, many, many times.
Back then, Stephen and I, on that February 9th day, we were sitting there working on this memo and talking about the vaccine.
And we were very clear-eyed about the fact that all vaccines have side effects.
They're going to have side effects, and if you're lucky, they're not serious, but if you're not, they can be serious.
And so, what Malone said in that, basically, is that we've embarked on this strategy, the Fauci strategy, the Biden strategy, where you make the first presumption that the only way out of the box we're in is basically to vaccinate everybody, to get rid of the virus entirely.
And the other assumption is that the vaccine is safe.
And the problem is, as we are learning, and as Doc Hatfield and I knew back when we were working to help President Trump get this thing going, is that this wasn't gonna be like a polio smallpox scenario where you get a vaccine and totally eradicate the thing and then you just move on, right?
This was likely, more likely, going to be a case where you'd have a flu-like virus that every year you'd have mutations of it and you'd constantly be getting a vaccine like you do for the flu.
And so we're moving along this one paradigm here that is forced vaccinations of everybody when there's serious, serious and significant risks that we haven't properly Accounted for, taken into the calculus.
And we should be going in another direction.
So I'll be talking.
We're going to have a great show on Saturday about this.
But today, boy, so great to have Matt and Marjorie here in studio and Ben Berquam at the border.
Stephen K. Bannon will be back with you tomorrow morning, hot as ever.
Peter K. Navarro here today on Thursday and it's great to be with you here in the War Room.
We are out!
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