July 20, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| So you don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| It's Tuesday, 20 July, the year of our Lord 2021. | ||
| We're live, and you're in the War Room. | ||
| My co-host today, Raheem Kassam, back from his trip out West, getting ready to head back out West. | ||
| And of course, Natalie Winters. | ||
| I actually figured out, Natalie, this is why Raheem came back early with this. | ||
| He was going to stay out West, but he came back in the interim, because Natalie was going, did we make any blush? | ||
| Or was that our pregame? | ||
| Wait, finish the sentence. | ||
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What was Natalie going to do? | |
| You serped me. | ||
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What? | |
| You serped you? | ||
| No, but you're supposed to be out west going around America telling us what's going on. | ||
| You're going to head back out there, right? | ||
| I'm getting my stuff together. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| Putting some bags together. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| And we'll be out there shortly. | ||
| The bags that were sitting out on the front lawn when you got back from your trip? | ||
| And we'll be doing some... And we'll be doing some war room meetups. | ||
| Okay, perfect. | ||
| We're going to get into all that. | ||
| Okay, listen. | ||
| We've got election. | ||
| We've got vaccines. | ||
| We've got all of it to get into, but we've got to get into some of the The signal, not noise. | ||
| President Trump, the other day, put out an announcement. | ||
| He says, hey, you're going to lockdowns, you're going to mask mandates, you're force vaccinating school children or othering them. | ||
| Everybody's taking their eye off the ball of the Chinese Communist Party in Beijing and what's responsible for this. | ||
| Alan Duke's going to be on later with Natalie Rahim. | ||
| We're going to talk about Wuhan Lab, what happened there. | ||
| We've got France is in a literal meltdown, right? | ||
| Macron's government, I think, is teetering. | ||
| He had to cave yesterday. | ||
| You got Boris Johnson comes up with a new, you know, a new thing every day where they're going to do lockdowns, where he's going to quarantine. | ||
| In the United States, you're getting conflicting messages from cities, from school districts, from the federal government. | ||
| CDC says one thing, the pharmaceutical companies say another. | ||
| No one's focused on, and part of it is all taking the eye off the ball of the responsibility and accountability of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| I wanted to bring and start the day with Bill Gertz from the Washington Times. | ||
| Got an amazing article. | ||
| Also going to talk about all these hacks. | ||
| Pegasus, Microsoft, everything is going on. | ||
| But I got to start with Gertz. | ||
| There was a big story in the Express, which is, I think, one of the best newspapers in the UK about following things that are populist and nationalist. | ||
| and it was about from Sky News in Australia, about the grip, that she may not have the grip on the country that people think he does, and in fact, the economy's actually in much worse shape. | ||
| He's had a number of purges, the military's very angry, and one of the things he's doing is rattling the saber about Taiwan. | ||
| You're the number one guy, you and Josh Rogin are the two best guys in D.C., the best source, and you've been doing this since Josh was in short pants, so we wanted to reach out to you. | ||
| What's going on in Beijing? | ||
| Do you believe the Express story? | ||
| Is Xi in much worse shape than we think? | ||
| And why are Western countries not coming together and uniting and trying to topple this by just holding them accountable for what they did in the Wuhan lab and how they've destroyed all the economies? | ||
| And ladies and gentlemen, if you don't think they're destroying a $3.5 trillion human capital infrastructure, Bill's coming up, which they're going to try to jam amnesty into. | ||
| We've got the folks from Numbers USA are going to come on and talk about that. | ||
| So Bill Gertz, Beijing, the regime, what's the status in your opinion? | ||
| Yeah, hi Steve, always good to be on the show. | ||
| Yeah, this was an analysis by Paul Monk. | ||
| He's a China watcher. | ||
| He's part of what we call the Collapsist Theory of China Hands. | ||
| Gordon Chang's another, he wrote the book The Coming Collapse of China, hasn't collapsed yet. | ||
| However, I agree with him that there are definitely warning signs about the coming collapse of the Communist Party, and I think the pandemic is And China's responsibility for it is definitely pushing in this direction. | ||
| First of all, Munk said that the economy may not be that strong. | ||
| He said that the Chinese military may not be strong. | ||
| That strong. | ||
| I agree with that too. | ||
| The Chinese, you know, they follow Sun Tzu. | ||
| When weak, pretend you're strong. | ||
| When strong, pretend you're weak. | ||
| They're definitely trying to pretend that they're strong. | ||
| economically and militarily and they definitely have a lot of issues there with their military although they are building up in a very aggressive way. | ||
| I would say that I think that the official intelligence view is that Xi has maintained control but I see this current period as analogous to the late 90s when the CIA was saying there's no problems with the Soviet Union they're not going to collapse and then lo and behold in 91 the Soviet Union collapsed We could be in that situation now. | ||
| You mean the late 80s, when they thought it was strong and yet it collapsed and Berlin Wall came down and Tiananmen Square. | ||
| We had this report on the United States Navy the other day that was pretty damning. | ||
| You're of the school of thought. | ||
| You understand we're in information and cyber war with the CCP. | ||
| You understand we're in economic war and it's a hot war, not a cold war with the CCP. | ||
| We've always tried to avoid a kinetic war. | ||
| Does the regime, you know the situation in Taiwan, and let's leave the moral responsibilities we have off to the side about protecting freedom and democracy of an ally, but just a practical that Taiwan is now Silicon Valley West, and if you think the economy is slowing because you can't get chips for your F100 Ford pickup or for your refrigerator. | ||
| If Taiwan was to fall in the hands of the CCP, it'd be basically the end of the American economy as we know it. Do you think that Xi, in a moment of weakness, to try to bolster the hyper-nationalism among particularly college, you know, the colleges in universities, where they have these radical professors? | ||
| Do you think he would actually strike at Taiwan? | ||
| And do you think Jack Posobiec doesn't think our beloved United States Navy is prepared to defend it? | ||
| Bill Gertz. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| This is a real flashpoint. | ||
| We've seen a lot of warning signs about some type of Chinese action against Taiwan. | ||
| A lot of overheated rhetoric. | ||
| It's very difficult to say whether that's a precursor for some type of military action. | ||
| I think, again getting back to the stability question, the history of the Chinese Communist Party leadership has been a history of factionalism and internal fighting. | ||
| This is the real problem. | ||
| Xi Jinping is not well liked. | ||
| He's not regarded highly. | ||
| He's not considered a strong leader. | ||
| He has purged a lot of people and upset a lot of apple carts. | ||
| And that leads to the possibility of miscalculation. | ||
| When you are facing internal instability, if there is such instability, one thing could be to go outward, and that would be some type of military action against Taiwan. | ||
| And again, the Chinese have been rattling the saber for months now with incursions into air defense zones, with provocative military activities and definitely way overheated rhetoric. | ||
| So it's definitely a flashpoint. | ||
| I think the U.S. would have to respond. | ||
| We saw the Japanese deputy prime minister recently say that Japan is all in, that the defense of Taiwan is an existential issue for Japan. | ||
| And that I think put the Biden administration on notice that they have to come and express real strong commitments to the defense of Taiwan. | ||
| There are a lot of strategic advantages to maintaining the strategic ambiguity policy towards Taiwan, which is what we've had for successive administrations. | ||
| That is not stating clearly whether the US would defend Taiwan. | ||
| But again, the Chinese are stepping up their military activities and their rhetoric, so it's definitely a flashpoint. | ||
| How did they view, and we'll get into it with Rahim and Natalie in a little while, how did they view, you know, you've got France's governments on the brink, right? | ||
| You've got Germany, you've got the UK. | ||
| Now Boris Johnson, you don't know what he's doing every day, whether he's quarantining, going to put the country in lockdown. | ||
| They had riots there yesterday. | ||
| Nigel Farage's opening show, he had Nigel on in the morning. | ||
| His show, he had to cut off his reporter. | ||
| Because of the profanity from the Freedom Day people. | ||
| Cops were beating people up. | ||
| There were fights breaking out in the United States. | ||
| LA's quarantining people again. | ||
| You've got other states are saying no mask mandates. | ||
| Complete chaos and confusion. | ||
| How does Beijing look at this and look at the West and their response of holding them accountable? | ||
| Well, and then we saw the market go down yesterday, which is another sign, and they're attributing that to this supposed variant of the coronavirus. | ||
| Clearly, in my view, the pandemic is over. | ||
| There's a lot of fear mongering on the part of the mainstream media to try and keep it going. | ||
| And I think it's related to those authoritarians who want to try to keep keep it going as they don't want to give up power. This is what's been going on, I think, and people are saying enough is enough. We've got the vaccines. If you don't want to get vaccinated, that's your choice. But for the most part, you know, the pandemic's over and it's difficult for people to move on from this, especially these draconian control measures that | ||
| that have been imposed since last year, and they're now being lifted. | ||
| And some of these authoritarians want to go back to that. | ||
| And I think we're going to see more unrest as it relates to the attempts to use the pandemic to lock down further and limit people's freedom. | ||
| Talk to us about this article you've got about Microsoft. | ||
| Talk to us about the China and the CCP and the Microsoft situation. | ||
| Yeah, it's a big deal. | ||
| And the reason it's a big deal is because the administration has been very vocal in calling out the Russians for the solar winds hack that happened. | ||
| This is really one of the first times that they've called out the Ministry of State Security, the civilian Chinese intelligence agency, for its role in the Microsoft Exchange server hack. | ||
| This was a massive attack that affected some 300,000 computers, 30,000 of which were totally penetrated. | ||
| And it was a multi-phase operation in the sense that traditionally the Chinese go after information, they were reading emails on every computer that they could break into that had a Microsoft Exchange, means that they were getting into those emails and getting information and then moving laterally within these networks and stealing information. | ||
| They then compounded it by releasing the security flaws that allowed them to get in to hackers worldwide and including Chinese criminal hackers who were then conducting ransomware attacks. | ||
| So those were the two main takeaways from this action yesterday. | ||
| The other thing they did was to try to get some international support. | ||
| They did pretty well with the UK, Japan, Australia, and the European Union. | ||
| However, the NATO statement was very weak. | ||
| It didn't really finger the Chinese for the Microsoft hack. | ||
| But again, it was an attempt by the Biden administration, again, to do their idea of trying to get all allies on board. | ||
| But I think it's a good step that if they can get the Europeans and more of the Asians to call out the Chinese, it will build momentum for an alliance against the CCP. | ||
| Bill, how do people get to you on social media? | ||
| How do they follow you on your columns on the Washington Times and what you do on a daily basis between the columns? | ||
| Twitter is at Bill Gertz, also on Getter. | ||
| Also, you can go to the Gertz file, which is my webpage, which has all my stories and my books, the most recent of which is Deceiving the Sky Inside Communist China's Drive for Global Supremacy. | ||
| Yeah, it's amazing. | ||
| Bill Gertz, thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Microsoft, we're going to get into the Pegasus hack too, the Microsoft situation. | ||
| By the way, I do disagree with Bill slightly that I think it's a pretty feckless effort by the Biden administration. | ||
| I'm not so sure it's... Bill's correct. | ||
| They're trying to organize it, but they're not in guys' faces. | ||
| To answer your question in a slightly different way from how Bill did about how the Chinese Communist Party is responding to all of the activities in the Western world, they're saying, oh my god, I can't believe it worked. | ||
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This is in their plan, it's of their plan, And, you know, I'm not much... You've crossed the line then to go that this is actually the bioweapon program that was purposely released. | |
| For sure. | ||
| No doubt in your mind. | ||
| No doubt in my mind about that right now. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because it was the only... It's pretty big when the National Pulse comes out and says that. | ||
| Well... That's the extreme of people... And I'm sanctioning this. | ||
| I'm very willing to defend it. | ||
| I'm very willing to defend it. | ||
| It'll probably take a lot more than 20 seconds we have left in this segment, but... | ||
| I don't do it much anymore, but I was once very much of the geopolitical world, right? | ||
| That was my job. | ||
| And I've got to tell you, the way I am seeing things unfold right now, Taiwan situation, I think big plays, unfortunately, not ones that we're in the position to emerge victorious out of in the immediate future, are imminent. | ||
| Okay, we're not getting it all that way. | ||
| I said years ago on the Breitbart Radio, when they had the situation up in the East China Sea with Japan, that if we don't get focused, we're going to slide into a kinetic war in five years in the South China Sea and around Taiwan. | ||
| That's where we're headed, folks. | ||
| Okay, unless we take a strong stand now to take down this criminal enterprise in Beijing. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| Back in the War Room in a moment. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K Banham. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K Banham. | ||
| These are the Biden cages we saw little boys and little girls lying side by side, not six feet apart, not three feet apart. | ||
| They weren't six inches apart. | ||
| Crammed side by side in the Biden cages. | ||
| And I can tell you in that facility when we visited it, the rate of COVID positivity was over 10%. | ||
| You're packing children into cages with a lot of them having COVID and more of them getting COVID, and the Biden administration is ignoring the law and releasing into our communities people that have COVID, most of whom are coming across this border who are not vaccinated. | ||
| And right now, Biden is talking about ending Title 42, which is the health protection that says we're not going to release people carrying potentially communicable diseases. | ||
| So yes, you better believe the rising COVID rates are due in significant part to illegal aliens that the Biden administration is releasing in Texas that have COVID rates seven times higher than the U.S. | ||
| population. | ||
| And we need to stop being boneheaded and ignoring the science, which is what the Biden administration is doing. | ||
| Ted Cruz throwing down hard in turning point the conference down in Tampa, which Rainer Jackson, the great Rainer Jackson, the black entrepreneur and the leader of the Black Entrepreneurs Group, has been talking to us for weeks and weeks and weeks and says, hey, nobody's focused on the fact that the media doesn't want to talk about it. | ||
| The reason you're seeing the explosion, as Rahim, you've talked about coming up from Central America. | ||
| There's an invasion of the border. | ||
| Nigel Farage told us that a couple of months ago. | ||
| You've got no checks there, no health checks. | ||
| Unvaccinated. | ||
| 10% of the kids are with disease. | ||
| More that are coming across. | ||
| We're going to have 2 million illegal aliens in this country by the end of the year. | ||
| And now we've got even more brutal news. | ||
| The $3.5 trillion, this whole bogus come together for the roads and bridges, the $1 trillion or the $1.9 trillion, leads into a $3.5 trillion human infrastructure bill. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| It's going to be crammed with the most outrageous stuff you've ever seen. | ||
| They're going to try to use a budget gimmick To get it passed. | ||
| I want to bring in from Numbers USA, Chris Chmielinski, the Director of Research. | ||
| Chris, tell us, is it, in your mind, is it true? | ||
| I know the Wall Street Journal is reporting this this morning. | ||
| We've been talking about this for weeks. | ||
| They're using this budget gimmick. | ||
| They're on MSNBC every night, melting down. | ||
| You've got to do it with HR1 and SR1. | ||
| This infrastructure, 3.5 trillion, human infrastructure, is just a grab bag of left-wing policy. | ||
| Yeah, it can be at least five million plus. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised if it exceeds that as well. | ||
| Amnesty for illegal aliens mark recording told us yesterday. | ||
| He thinks it's five million plus. So is this gonna happen? | ||
| Is this reality? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, it can be at least five million plus I wouldn't be surprised if it exceeds that as well Representative Jayapal who's I think the co-chair of the house progressive caucus and a former immigration lawyer She told the Wall Street Journal that that at least the house version of a budget reconciliation Bill is going to include an amnesty for DACA eligible illegal aliens TPS recipients. Those are illegal aliens that Supposedly can't return to their home country because of a | |
| natural disaster or something like that Essential workers illegal essential workers. So these are workers who are working in containment Construction, infrastructure, construction, health care, things like that. | ||
| And then the last group would be illegal farm workers. | ||
| So it's going to be at least 5 million to 6 million people. | ||
| Whether or not it can get through in the Senate is the question. | ||
| But we have heard Senator Manchin is on the record saying that he's open to including this in the budget reconciliation bill. | ||
| So that's a bit scary because I think the two easiest gets on the Democratic side to try to prevent this from happening. | ||
| Would be Kirsten Sinema out of Arizona and Joe Manchin out of West Virginia and at least one of them seems open to the idea. | ||
| You're saying John Tester of Montana would go along with this? | ||
| John Tester of the great state of Montana would go along with this? | ||
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Yeah, well, we're putting a lot of pressure on him. | |
| And he has questioned mostly the price tag of the plan. | ||
| And I think he has some of the same energy type concerns that Manchin has about this thing pretty much eliminating all fossil fuels. | ||
| Within the next 10 years, I think it is by 2030, we'll have no more fossil fuels. | ||
| So testers expressing again, we don't know what these senators are saying behind the scenes to Senator Chuck Schumer, the Senate Majority Leader, who's ultimately Tasked with trying to unite the Democratic Party on this because they need all 50 votes They're not gonna get a Republican vote. So they need every single Democrat to be on board with this with this scheme That's what I'm gonna call it as a scheme using this budget this budget rule slip through all the sex It's it's a it's a yeah, it's outrageous. It's a gimmick in | ||
| here. Listen, this gets back to the full forensic audits in Arizona in Georgia They have, quite frankly, when we get the full forensic, all 50 states, you're going to see they have no majority in the House. | ||
| They certainly have no majority in the Senate. | ||
| Mitch McConnell ought to be a complete obstructionist now. | ||
| Pencils should go down because Ossoff didn't win, Kelly didn't win. | ||
| It's obvious that this is, and they're trying to jam through, and if they jam this through, it's going to be decades and decades and decades before you can unwind it, and particularly the illegal amnesty of the five or six million. By the way, this is just going to suppress wages for working class Hispanics in the Rio Grande Valley, South Texas, Arizona, all of it. So I'd be shocked if Kristin Sinema was good with this. Well, how can people, Numbers USA is the best, most politically active. How can our audience, which is the most powerful | ||
| activist audience out there, how can they assist in trying to expose this and to block it? | ||
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Well, obviously, if you're not a member of Numbers USA, I'd love you to join our organization. | |
| You can come to our website at numbersusa.com and click the Join Us button on the top left if you're not already a member. | ||
| But really, the most important thing that I can beg of you in this is to call your U.S. | ||
| Senators and urge them, especially if you live in a Democratic state, especially if you live in a place like Michigan, West Virginia, Arizona, New Hampshire, Montana, where some of these swing state Purple-ish Democratic senators exist, live, and call them and just hammer them with phone calls and tell them that there is no way you will even consider voting for them if they are going to stuff an amnesty into this $3.5 trillion package. | ||
| If you live in a Republican state, if you live in a state with Republican senators, it wouldn't hurt to call them too, because we know that Republicans are open to the idea of at least granting amnesty to the DACA eligible folks and some of the other groups. | ||
| There are a few Republicans with a soft spot for the DACA eligibles and for the Dreamers. | ||
| So, call your Senators. | ||
| We think this is going to happen before the end of next week, but it could drag on into August. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We're going to get Montana, Arizona, and West Virginia in particular. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What's your social media? | ||
| How do people get to you? | ||
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Sure. | |
| We're at NumbersUSA, is our Twitter handle, and same thing with Facebook, facebook.com forward slash NumbersUSA. | ||
| We have a huge audience on both. | ||
| You know, so far we have not we have not fallen under the Facebook censoring or the Twitter censoring guidelines. | ||
| So we've been pretty good there, but they can follow us there and of course come to our website. | ||
| But the most important thing is call the call your senators 202-224-3121. | ||
| Okay, we'll put the numbers up for Montana, West Virginia, and Arizona. | ||
| Thank you very much, Chris. | ||
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Appreciate it. | |
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Raheem, this is the never-ending fight. | ||
| We've been doing this for, what, 10 or 12 years since you and I have worked together in the United Kingdom, in the United States. | ||
| This fight never stops, and I've got to tell you, it's now... Here's what it is. | ||
| They're so nervous. | ||
| about the election fraud. | ||
| They're so nervous about the big steal. | ||
| They're trying to jam, and this is radical things they're trying to jam through, that would be impossible to unwind. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Be impossible to unwind. | ||
| You're not going to get the judges and you're not going to get the new states. | ||
| That's too radical for them, but they're going to try to use this. | ||
| This gimmick, and this is a gimmick, this budget reconciliation thing to jam through, which is this $3.5 trillion, on top of the others, is just going to bury you. | ||
| This is why I think the stock market, and remember, they don't want to talk about the debt ceiling. | ||
| Debt ceiling comes on the 31st of July, you never hear about it. | ||
| Raheem Ghassan, The Daily Winners. | ||
| Well, look, I was thinking about this last night. | ||
| My second book, Enoch was Right, went into a lot of the detail about... I mean, Enoch Powell was probably the first cancelled person in Western civilization. | ||
| He was removed from Britain's shadow cabinet for warning about mass migration and everything that would come along with it. | ||
| A war hero. | ||
| An extraordinary individual. | ||
| An everything hero. | ||
| An extraordinary individual who talked about The numbers and the ability to accommodate masses of people immigrating into another country. | ||
| He warned on April 20th, 1968, he used a phrase from the Aeneid, Virgil's Aeneid, that a lot of people didn't understand. | ||
| He said, like the Roman, I see the river Tiber foaming with much blood. | ||
| And I have to issue the same warning for America today. | ||
| Like the Roman, I see the river Tiber foaming with much blood. | ||
| And the British political establishment at the time didn't understand what he was saying. | ||
| He was saying Uh, like the Cumean symbol says to Aeneas, in the Aeneid, says, the blood happens on both sides. | ||
| The immigrant struggles to fit in, en masse, um, they, they shed blood, they shed sweat, they, they, you know, a good immigrant contributes all he can to the society he's joining, but may never get the credit for several generations, and for the native, There's obviously may lose jobs, may lose claims, may lose whatever. | ||
| And the blood that they blamed Enoch for talking about isn't actual blood, it's not rivers of actual blood. | ||
| It's the strife that comes with not planning these things well. | ||
| And just welcoming people en masse into a place and it's not prepared for it, the necessary infrastructure, they lie about the numbers and all of that. | ||
| And what you're seeing right now is The exact thing that Enoch stood up for in terms of immigration and the border and numbers and the invasion, as I called it, and then Nigel called it after me. | ||
| You're seeing exactly what he warned about here. | ||
| And so my take on this, you're absolutely right. | ||
| All these things, all this budget reconciliation, all that stuff, total distraction. | ||
| It's an attempt to lure the eyes away from the real catastrophe that is happening in America right now. | ||
| There are several, but one of them is strictly on the border, at the border, from the border. | ||
| And we don't want to call it, it's no longer a media hypocrisy. | ||
| They're the propaganda winger, really. | ||
| It's information warfare. | ||
| Obviously this invasion of unvaccinated, untested people just flowing up, going to be 2 million this year. | ||
| You've already seen the camps. | ||
| This is the reason LA's on fire. | ||
| Nobody wants to talk about it. | ||
| Rainer Jackson comes and says, hey, it's because of the illegal aliens coming up that nobody's testing. | ||
| At the same time, hammering the middle class and the working class, and particularly the children. | ||
| You got to be vaccinated or wear a mask if you're three years old, right? | ||
| Got to do it. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| Be back with Natalie Rahim. | ||
| Clyde Preskowitz is going to join us also. | ||
| Talk about China and the response, the feckless response of our leaders in the West to what's going on. | ||
| A world on fire. | ||
| Wasn't like that when Donald J. Trump was President of the United States. | ||
| Or is he still President of the United States? | ||
| We'll get into that later in the War Room. | ||
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| Mike Lindell is going to be on tomorrow morning with a major announcement about Sioux Falls 10th, 11th, and 12th. | ||
| What's going to happen beforehand. | ||
| He's going to be on the show tomorrow morning. | ||
| Also, MTG is going to be on the show. | ||
| So, big show tomorrow. | ||
| Very explosive. | ||
| Since MTG was now banned, what, for 12 hours from Twitter. | ||
| Before I bring in Clyde Presowitz, the author of The World Turned Upside Down, the feckless response, this thing in France is much bigger than people realize. | ||
| What's happening in the UK is much bigger than people realize. | ||
| The mainstream media, the media refuses to talk about the unrest throughout Europe of what this pandemic is causing, what this virus is causing, what you guys say now is a bioweapon. | ||
| I've said it's a bioweapon for a while. | ||
| I still have the belief it inadvertently leaked out of a a lab that was not particularly overseen well. | ||
| But there's a school of thought that says this is a bioweapon program, they understood with Trump, they understood with Hong Kong, they understood with the freedom movement, what was happening in Taiwan, the regimes, the economy is a lot worse than they think. | ||
| They planned this, they let it off. | ||
| And I've got to tell you, if you look in hindsight, they've done not too shabby, right? | ||
| They've been hit, but the West is still in turmoil. | ||
| Macron said today it's the fourth wave. | ||
| So Raheem, Natalie, tell me what your guys' thoughts on this and the feckless response by our leadership. | ||
| Well, there was a story that we put up last July, and it was a video that China Global Television Network, which is a state-run media outlet, had put up, and it was titled, Can COVID-19 Beat Populism? | ||
| And in this video, they essentially give a resounding yes. | ||
| They talk about how COVID-19 as they say, exposed kind of the flaws and shortcomings of not just the Bolsonaro administration in Brazil, but Trump over here. | ||
| And I think that that was kind of the quiet part out loud in this, I mean, really quite, quite literally. | ||
| And I think that this goes back to what Rahim was saying and what you were saying, Steve, which is that really in every aspect, whether it's financial, political, I think it's most on display with regards to the 2020 election, particularly the shift to mail-in ballot and absentee voting that was precipitated wholly by the pandemic, the Chinese Communist Party has won every single strategic goal that they have. | ||
| Said out loud whether it's frankly world domination through initiatives like Belt and Road, whether it's just a complete and utter capture or really as you would say a merger of the American elite, we've seen all of that on full display with COVID-19 or as we call it the CCP virus and frankly I think when you look at the Wuhan Institute of Virology's conduct with regards to the virus the fact that it seems like every other day | ||
| They're deleting web pages where they talk about the lab's military links, how they were manipulating viruses to reach, quote, pandemic potential, and they've been nothing but no sense of forthrightness on the origins of COVID-19. | ||
| It really makes you think, what are they up to? | ||
| By the way, just the opposite. | ||
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They are less cooperative. | |
| than election officials in Maricopa County or in Georgia. | ||
| If you take the analogy where those guys are fighting taking a court, they've just shut it down totally and are trying to call out people and behind the scenes saying there's going to be big retribution if you go on here. | ||
| If you think about it, everyone who has been appointed to really a powerful role with regards to getting to the bottom of COVID-19, it is totally controlled opposition. | ||
| And that element of control comes with complete and utter compromise to the Chinese Communist Party, whether it's Jeffrey Sachs, Peter Daszak, Marion Koopmans on the World Health Organization team. | ||
| And really, this is what the Chinese Communist Party does with every aspect of American society, whether it's think tanks, academia, frankly, even politicians, even your president, even the president's family. | ||
| And that's because they want to create an ecosystem in Washington, D.C. | ||
| where they can do what they want, they being the Chinese Communist Party, and get away with it. | ||
| And that's exactly what they did with regards to the investigations into the origins of COVID-19. | ||
| Is the Hunter Biden hard drive, Raheem, emblematic of what's happened to the West? | ||
| You know, we used to joke, you come for the porn, stay for the compromise. | ||
| But the compromise is at so many different levels. | ||
| It's social, it is cultural, but particularly at the end of the day, it's money and power. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's probably a really good thing. | ||
| I never thought about it like that. | ||
| It's probably a real great microcosm of the wider rot in Western civil society is Hunter Biden and his device. | ||
| And that's, by the way, why I think, without realizing your excellent point, why I listened to Hunter Biden's book twice over. | ||
| Everything in that book, everything in that, you know, listening to him in his own words, explains all of the corruption that we see around us. | ||
| His mentality, what he's allowed to get away with, how he's, you know, groomed and grooming at the same time. | ||
| Look, I want to say this about, I don't know if, you know, I've been away for a couple of weeks, I don't know if Madeleine Pels is still an avid viewer and if media matters. | ||
| I think actually Madeleine Peltz has had to take a medical, didn't some, I think Maureen sent me a tweet. | ||
| Alright, well, whoever is over at Media Matters, get well Madeleine. | ||
| Get Madeleine, but seriously, we understand you're not a fan of a lot of the content we put out. | ||
| Don't push ill on anybody. | ||
| No, but my daughter sent me that. | ||
| I think she's on medical leave. | ||
| We wish you the best. | ||
| Get well soon, Madeleine. | ||
| We love the fight, so I think she's got Jason Hurwitz over there watching this, but please come back healthy. | ||
| Whoever is over at Media Matters watching this, don't let your head blow up, but I'm going to say this. | ||
| It would be one thing if this was an accidental leak of this virus and then there's a small cover-up but a broader mea culpa and we see a whole kind of cleanup around it. | ||
| That's what you would see if this was an accidental leak. | ||
| If it was an intentional deployment of a weaponized virus, you would see propaganda in all the papers, you would see talking heads on Western television going to back, going to back for the Chinese Communist Party, you would see false investigations led by people like Peter Daszak, you would see no accountability for people like Dr. Fauci, Mr. Fauci as I call him, Who is due to testify before the HELP Committee again today in front of Senator Rand Paul. | ||
| So hopefully we'll get some semblance of accountability from one member in that. | ||
| And then what you'd also see is all this civil unrest followed by variants here but not variants there. | ||
| And that's exactly what we're seeing. | ||
| This is an attack. | ||
| It's very clearly an attack. | ||
| Any strategic thinkable Tell you it's an attack? | ||
| Particularly if you look at their actions the days afterwards, where they swept up PPE throughout the world, to use it strategically later on, everything they did with all these governments, the pressure they put on these governments, so I'm looking forward to the National Pulse coming out now and making the case. | ||
| If you think you guys were banned before, because now it's bad enough to say, remember, everything gets back to 3 November, Gets back to the Wuhan lab because in getting to the bottom of those two things, how it happened, why it happened, who's accountable for it, everything else becomes clear. | ||
| I want to throw now 6th January in that too, as soon as Darren Beattie comes back off vacation. | ||
| This is a thousand 9-11s and we have not even yet acknowledged that we've been attacked. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| Let's bring in Clyde Pressowitz. | ||
| The title of his book is The World Turned Upside Down. | ||
| The reason it's ironic, Rahim, I think the time that phrase was first used was at Yorktown, when Cornwallis did not go out to parade his troops. | ||
| He had junior officers do it after the defeat at the hands of the American Army, the Continental Army, and the French Navy, right, at Yorktown. | ||
| They said it was The World Turned Upside Down, had the song. | ||
| Clyde Pressowitz is an old China hand. | ||
| So, Clyde, here's the question. | ||
| Has the West. | ||
| Done enough, and what do they need to do to hold China accountable? | ||
| Right now you've got France collapsing, the UK's, you know, I think the Tory government's going to be under tremendous pressure, the US, you see Biden is completely feckless, you've got different people all over the country saying different things, whether it's masks, whether it's vaccines, misinformation all around, coming from official sources, I believe, and trying to shut down any, any, any debate and scientific debate about what's going on. | ||
| So Clyde, how does Beijing look at this right now, and what should we do about it? | ||
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Well, I think Beijing believes that they are in the driver's seat. | |
| I think Xi Jinping, if you looked at his speech on the 100th anniversary of the Communist Party, and you look at the interesting that essentially Beijing's told the State Department that don't bother sending Wendy Sherman, the Deputy Secretary of State, to see us because we really don't have anything to talk about. | ||
| So I think Beijing feels they're in the driver's seat. | ||
| They've got a well-oiled mean machine. | ||
| Biden and West are struggling within their own societies. | ||
| You know, I mean, here in the United States, or you mentioned France or the UK, there's not a unity of understanding of the danger and the risk of China. | ||
| The business community in all of these places, in Wall Street, In Silicon Valley, in Germany, in the German auto industry, they're all hostages of Beijing. | ||
| And so we're struggling within our own societies just to come to a conclusion that maybe we're in danger. | ||
| And while we're trying to decide if we're in danger or not, Beijing is marching along to become the global hegemon. | ||
| It's very, very clear, very simple. | ||
| And yet, The Western intelligentsia, the Western press is in denial. | ||
| And we continue to see, your colleague mentioned Jeff Sachs. | ||
| I mean, we continue to see leading people, people who get Nobel Prizes, talking about how we need to be more gentle with China. | ||
| And the truth is we need to get our act together. | ||
| Okay, let's talk about that. | ||
| We've got a couple of minutes. | ||
| What do you mean, get our act together? | ||
| If you were in the Oval Office talking to Biden, because we know what Trump would do, what would you tell Biden has to happen immediately in the confrontation with China and the CCP? | ||
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| I would hope they've hacked the MSS and the other leading Chinese Secondly, I think that it ought to be clear that we need to beef up our military posture in the South China Sea. | ||
| We need to engage Japan and Australia and Vietnam and other countries in that region to just stop the hassling of Philippine and Malaysian and other Indonesian fishermen in the South China Sea. | ||
| I think that Biden actually has taken a good step with his bill that will put $50 billion into the semiconductor industry and into the solar industry in the US. | ||
| But China has a program called Made in China 2025. | ||
| China is aiming at dominance in semiconductors, robotics, artificial intelligence, biotech, you name it. | ||
| China is driving to get there. | ||
| We need to dramatically increase the program that Biden is proposing. | ||
| You know, I think that we need to focus more on becoming and maintaining the leadership in technology and less on some of the softer stuff that you've been talking about earlier in the show. | ||
| Real quickly, Clyde, you've got about 30 seconds. | ||
| Do you think that this came out of the lab and do you think that the bioweapon led on purpose? | ||
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| No doubt in your mind? | ||
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| Clyde, how did people get to you? | ||
| How did they find the book? | ||
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My email is presto, P-R-E-S-T-O, at econstrat.org. | |
| My Twitter is at Clyde Prestowitz, phone number 240-729-8541. | ||
| I'm sure the CCP's intel office will be calling right away. | ||
| Clyde Prestowitz, you're a great hero. | ||
| I love you, brother. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| From so many clowns that are just on media, all over TV, in these magazines, etc., I pride myself in finding people who are really smart, who really get things. | ||
| I'm not saying it's disturbing, but it is important when two people that have spent as much time on this as you have, into the details, more than 99.9% of I think even our intelligence services, because I do know kind of what's going on, And you guys have been at the tip of the spear and exposed so much. | ||
| When you guys sit here and say, no, we have come to the conclusion it was a bioweapon and it was purposely let off, and Peter Navarro's and Steve Bannon's scenario where it was inadvertent but they did all the stuff, kind of still misses the last foundational element of it. | ||
| That means that it's not my, hey, we're at war in information cyber war, you can tell it from the hacks and the propaganda and the infiltration, we're not, it's economic war, we're in a hot war economically across the globe, and we're sliding to a kinetic war. | ||
| You're essentially saying, because bioweapons are, and Miles Guo will tell you, bioweapon and social media are their weapons, right, of choice, not nuclear weapons, that this was a premeditated act of war. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Now, Michael and Dale's going to go to Sioux Falls and he says he's going to show the world data, you know, capture and packets and all this. | ||
| He's going to have his experts to show that they premeditated, came into the 2020 election to get rid of Donald Trump, right? | ||
| Of which we say, hey, not only did Trump won, and we don't say this as something to trigger the libs. | ||
| We don't want to own the libs. | ||
| We believe, and I think Rahim is going throughout the country now, comes to conclusion, we're the vast majority. | ||
| We won, and we're going to prove he won in a landslide. | ||
| This, what you're saying about the lab, is that this is a premeditated act of war. | ||
| And if that is the case, that has implications that are so powerful, and quite frankly, the elites in this city are not prepared to deal with it. | ||
| You got Millie and these clowns, and that's what they are. | ||
| And I have tremendous respect for the military. | ||
| I haven't had the best years of my life as a young naval officer. | ||
| My daughter, obviously, West Point grad, family of veterans, that are not prepared at all to face the geostrategic implications of what you guys are saying. | ||
| Natalie and Raheem. | ||
| Firstly, I take great umbrage with that. | ||
| The best years of your life have been right here. | ||
| I think that's right. | ||
| These are not bad. | ||
| Those were great. | ||
| These are not bad. | ||
| Secondly, look, it really doesn't even quite matter whether the virus was, you know, leaked or accidentally leaked, deployed or accidentally leaked, because the... It's a weapons program? | ||
| Because it's a weapons program. | ||
| And totally contrary to all the treaties they've signed. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| And the most deadly stuff on earth. | ||
| So they intended to use it anyway, and it has been used. | ||
| So I don't think it matters, you know, it matters for the sake of history, but it doesn't really matter for the sake of our response. | ||
| This is the darkest hour. | ||
| We are in the darkest hour. | ||
| We are in those moments that Churchill spoke of in the late 1930s and early 1940s when Europe really had no ability to respond to the gravest threat that civilization faced. | ||
| This motoring authoritarian power that blinked at nothing is what we face today and at the time everybody upon everybody thought We've got to just go along with it, we've got to do some deals, we've got to appease, peace in our time. | ||
| Well Lord Halifax, hold it, the British, my favorite, the British aristocracy tried to cut a deal with Hitler to save the empire. | ||
| It was the same people that voted for Brexit, working class labor voters up in the Midlands that gave power to the Tories as long as Winston Churchill was the guy. | ||
| As long as he was there because he would take on the Nazis. | ||
| The elites in Britain By and large, particularly the aristocracy, with Lord Halifax in the royal family, right? | ||
| The Queen Mother, right? | ||
| We're prepared to throw it all under the bus and cut a deal to save India and the Empire. | ||
| Is that not correct? | ||
| My point is, you see the analogy today. | ||
| And you have a chamber full of Chamberlains here, across the street, in the United States Capitol. | ||
| The appeasers. | ||
| not just appeasers, Natalie, the people that you have found that while they are even sort of even giving lip service to how do we deal with this, we need an investigation about this and all of that, they're investing in Chinese Communist Party ETFs, funds, shares, military proxies, military proxies, you name it. When all this is said and done, if Western civilization succeeds, those people in there | ||
| should be put in front of a commission and forced to answer for their... A tribunal. | ||
| A tribunal and forced to answer for collaborating with a hostile enemy who had declared war on Western Civilization. | ||
| And it took a 19-year-old college student from the University of Chicago, I'm serious, to expose so much of this. | ||
| Every day, Natalie Winters in Washington, when she's just drilling down to, and it's so, when you read these stories, do you understand there's no pushback on your stories? | ||
| None. | ||
| I mean, they don't, because you catch them with the, with the receipts. | ||
| Yeah, we have a lot of stories coming out now focusing on the financial disclosures of Democratic congressmen and women, particularly how they are invested. | ||
| We're talking, you know, sizable amounts of money in companies not only have been flagged as, quote, tools of the Chinese Communist Party by the U.S. | ||
| State Department, I'm talking about Tencent, but also China Mobile, which has been flagged by the U.S. | ||
| Department of Defense as a proxy of the People's Liberation Army for over two decades. | ||
| And just remember, as these people are standing up there lecturing people like us as deplorables, talking about foreign collusion and how Trump was in bed with Russia, particularly I'm talking about Peter Welch who was invested, as you said, in a lot of these Chinese Communist Party backed ETFs, as he's up there calling for a full-scale investigation into the Trump campaign's ties to Russia. | ||
| He's also invested in Chinese Communist Party-linked companies and buying stocks in 2019 in companies that have ties to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| So I really think it is an Olinsky-esque tactic of projection which we see from the mainstream media all the time with regards to their collusion with the Chinese government and the same goes for the Democratic Party. | ||
| I want to change one thing you said, if we win, the West will win this, Rahim. | ||
| It's going to be very nasty, it's going to be, by the way, it's going to be internal, people are going to be at each other's throats. | ||
| This is the fourth turning. | ||
| We're going to win this at the end of the day. | ||
| We're going to bring down the transnationals, and here's why. | ||
| Lao Bajing, the Chinese people, that's what I keep saying, the deplorables of China. | ||
| Remember, there's only 90 million members of the Communist Party. | ||
| Of that, there's a very small group of a couple thousand that actually call the shots, and they're the wealthiest families in the world. | ||
| That regime will fall. | ||
| That regime will fall at the hands of the Chinese people. | ||
| This is the great struggle of our time, and it could take 10, 15, 20 years. | ||
| And it's going to be brutal. | ||
| People have to understand this is going to be quite nasty. | ||
| I don't think the country in the West is prepared for what's going to happen. | ||
| This COVID is just an opening. | ||
| This is just a Sunday afternoon picnic compared to what's going to happen. | ||
| You talked about how, you know, they got hit but we got hit worse. | ||
| I don't even think they did get hit when you look at the grand scheme of all of it, right? | ||
| For sure, the Lao Bajing have suffered as a result of all of this. | ||
| But the Chinese Communist Party's interest? | ||
| I mean, look at all the trillions of dollars that have been deployed now across the Western world to bail out, you know, the ordinary person as a result of restrictions. | ||
| All that money spent on Chinese products. | ||
| Okay, short break. | ||
| Back with Alan Dukes. |
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