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steve bannon
Okay, welcome.
You're in the War Room.
It's Wednesday the 26th of May, the year of our Lord 2021.
Because of this audience, so many narratives are starting to come to the forefront.
The lead story in the Daily Mail today is Republicans are demanding that Anthony Fauci, Tony Fauci be fired because of his lies and misrepresentations to the Wuhan lab.
You've got the Patriots out in Arizona that are grinding through another day, kind of day two of the comeback after the return after The graduation ceremonies, they're now back on the floor for the full forensic audit.
You got Activity in Georgia preparing.
I think there's going to be a meeting tomorrow on Thursday to set the stage for how they're going to begin this audit of 147,000 ballasts.
There's news breaking all over the place on this.
News breaking on Fauci in the Wuhan lab.
We're going to go in a moment.
We've got a packed show today.
Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene.
We've got Mike Lindell.
Mike Lindell last night was thrown out because of this show, the interview he did yesterday, saying he was going to confront Governor Ducey and Governor Kemp about their lack of support of these audits.
He was going to confront these two at the Republican Governance Association, which I think he's a major donor.
He was invited VIP.
He was thrown out of the dinner.
That story's up in Politico.
We're going to have Mike Lindell on there to talk about exactly what happened.
We've got Sheriff Mark Lamb and Nigel Farage both on the border.
As soon as we get set up, we're going to go to them down on the Arizona-Mexico border.
But we want to start with America's mayor and American patriot and hero, Rudy Giuliani.
Rudy, we've got a lot to go through.
Mayor, thank you for joining us this morning, particularly that we put this together at the last second because I had to have you on.
One of the reasons that we're going to have Lindell on here in I think the second hour.
Mike Lindell was tossed out of the Republican Governors Association last night because on the show yesterday he said, hey, I'm going to this dinner, it's VIP, I've been invited, and I'm going to confront Ducey and Kemp, but particularly Ducey because we would not be on the deck plates in Arizona Doing the full forensic audit.
And by the way, all the rumors out there about that there's not going to be a canvas is just absolutely incorrect.
This is what the Justice Department and Rachel Maddow and those people really fear.
They fear the re-canvas.
That's all going to happen.
That's all in works.
Don't let anybody give you any misdirection plays on that at all.
Obviously they're getting into the machines now.
But Rudy, one of the things he was most upset about, because he said Doocy and Kemp just haven't been neutral.
They've actually been active participants On the side of the people, and the example he used, which I thought was perfect, was that when you were doing your 14-hour, after Gettysburg, you went to Phoenix.
You're doing a 14-hour presentation where you go through every aspect of it, from the full, what needs to be done on audit side, on canvassing, on machines, all of it.
In the, I think, the second hour of it, as you guys are just building up a head of steam, Doocy, very publicly, with cameras around, signs the certification Of the election of November 3rd, 2020.
Signs it just to be in your face, to kind of mock you, to kind of mock the patriots that are doing all this work.
And that's what you wanted to confront him with?
So go back.
Is there any question in your mind he did that on purpose, that Ducey did that to kind of put the damper on anything going forward?
rudy giuliani
No, there's no, unless he were Joe Biden and couldn't remember.
I mean, the reality is I called to meet with him on four occasions when I went there.
I know, I know Ducey.
I've talked to him before.
I've been on panels with him together.
I had a good relationship with him.
I thought he was a reasonably loyal Republican.
And I had overwhelming evidence that there was fraud in his state.
I mean, let's just start with the fact that not a single illegal immigrant voted in Arizona, according to the people who counted the ballots for him.
Now, you and I both know that's ridiculous.
Any intelligent politician knows it's ridiculous.
So what I wanted to say to him is, you know, Governor, if you don't credit anything else that I say, the ballots that were phony, the people from out of state that voted that I have, you know, if you don't credit any of that, which overturns your election about four times.
I'm not even talking about machines.
Talk about that.
I didn't talk about machines with him because I knew he was the one that gave the contract to the company.
And there was always a little bit of stink about, not a little bit of stink, a lot of smoke around that.
How did that happen?
And so I didn't want to touch on the machines there.
So I talked about, I would say, a number of votes that minimum would have Trump winning the state by 30 up to 110,000.
We're talking about dead people.
We're talking about illegal immigrants.
We're talking about underage people who voted.
We're talking about discernible by records.
Now, all we could do was the records we could beg, steal, and borrow because the state was refusing us to let the voter roll.
And that's one of the things I wanted to say to him.
Why would you withhold a voter roll?
There's nothing private about, I voted or I didn't vote.
Now, if you give me the voter roll and I run it against the illegal immigrant roll and I end up with 30,000, 40,000, you've got an election that needs to be overturned because that's going to take probably five to one, six to one from Biden.
This is the kind of conversation you'd expect that any decent governor would have with you when you present him with real evidence.
Instead of buying the attack on me and Trump and everyone else by the absolutely corrupt media that we didn't have any evidence.
We were dreaming it up.
You've been in my apartment, Steve.
You've seen it.
How many files do I have?
unidentified
One, two, three, four, five files worth of evidence.
rudy giuliani
I was telling Juicy what other people said to me.
Not me.
I didn't see any of this.
I was a lawyer.
I'm reporting what hundreds of his citizens said to me.
And the end result of our meeting, you know, Even some of those senators wanted to close this down because Ducey was lobbying them.
They got a public outcry unlike any other state.
For two weeks, those people, and we didn't even organize it.
It just happened.
People in Arizona demanded too much, too many questions, too close a margin.
You don't just quickly at a 10,000 vote margin say, oh, the perfect election.
There's never been a perfect election.
The only question is how much?
It's not a question of cheating.
It's how much cheating.
And in their case, there was way more than enough to overcome a 10,000 vote margin, which is... You don't think, you don't think, I just want to make sure I get this right.
steve bannon
You don't think there's any doubt in your mind that Trump won Arizona.
It's just about what margin that Trump won Arizona.
Is that what I'm hearing you saying?
rudy giuliani
I get in trouble when I predict what I don't know, except based on the evidence that I have.
I mean, if the evidence is true and somebody else has to test it out, right?
The evidence is true.
Then there's a big margin there that could give Trump the state.
What is really true is there's evidence of systemic fraud.
And whether it affects the election or not, it has to be examined so it doesn't happen again.
Any governor who covers that up, Republican or Democrat, is not a good governor.
He's not in your interest.
He's working for somebody else somewhere.
I don't know what's wrong with Ducey, but he was an enemy.
He wasn't just neutral.
And the same thing is true with Kemp.
Don't let him off the hook.
He might have been worse.
Kemp had his Attorney General, Secretary of State, become like a hatchet man, claiming that there was only one dead person who voted.
Within one day of his saying that, we produced 700 births of people who voted.
These are people we can figure out voted.
We don't know everybody who voted.
Who voted and were dead.
So he was wrong 700 to 1.
He's probably wrong more like 4 or 5,000 to 1.
And then he said it was a perfect election in Georgia.
steve bannon
Kemp has been designated, the reason they were both at the RGA sitting at the same table, as Ducey runs the, this is the Republican Governors Association for those folks, RGA is all the, it's a gathering of all the Republican Governors, Ducey, it rotates, but they designated Kemp to chair the Committee on Election Integrity.
Given your knowledge in working with Kemp, what's your assessment of that, Rudy Giuliani?
rudy giuliani
Well, that's like, that's like designating Willie Sutton on do not commit bank robbery.
I mean, he should really be designated to why I selected Dominion to count the votes when Texas turned them down because they were inaccurate.
That's what he should have been tasked with.
What did I, what did I base it on?
Who recommended it to me?
Did anybody get anything for it?
Because the thing was rejected right at the very beginning.
When they started using it, everybody in the state started yelling at them.
Machines were very difficult to use and looked like they were double and triple counting.
Those came up before the election.
We never knew about that.
steve bannon
I just want to make sure we've got a couple of minutes left in this segment.
We'd ask you to stay over, Mayor, because we've got a lot more to go through.
The Manhattan DA is impaling a grand jury, trying to indict the president.
I want to ask you, just to make sure we get this on the record and that people understand what's going on here.
You approached the governor of Arizona, was it four separate times, to sit down and walk him through the evidence?
rudy giuliani
During the course of the election, leading up to that meeting, I called him twice earlier and twice telling him I was going to be in Arizona.
I'd like the courtesy of a meeting with him.
I never received a return phone call, and in the past when I called him, he was rather good about returning my calls.
In the past, meaning before the election problem.
steve bannon
Right, when he gets down on the stage with Donald Trump.
rudy giuliani
Let me ask you about... You know, he wanted me to say something nice about him or appear with him or... You know, Donald Trump was amazed when he went to Arizona during the campaign at how little applause he got.
He was told by the Republican Party he's not very popular.
And I don't know.
I have no idea what game he's playing or who he's trying to cozy up to.
And now I see Kemp trying to rehabilitate himself with the Georgia law.
And that's why they asked him with their short-sighted whatever to be head of the Election Integrity Committee, because the law that was passed in Georgia is damn good.
I can assure you he didn't write that law.
The guys in the legislature that we work with that wanted to file a letter And pass a law saying that the election was invalid and they wanted the vote back.
He is the one who sat on the few Republicans we needed to get that done.
steve bannon
I'm not a fan of that law.
That law still allows mail-in ballots.
It's about two-thirds.
I'm not into compromising.
It's about two-thirds.
rudy giuliani
He's never explained the political integrity that he entered into that cost us both elections, both the Trump election and the senatorial election.
That consent decree remained in effect, and it allowed them no real scrutiny of what happened to the paper ballots.
We have to take the Democrat word for what happened to the paper ballots.
I don't know.
steve bannon
Well, that's all right.
It's Stacy's law.
We're still playing the game.
But I want to ask you, how many times have you met personally with Governor Kemp, and how many times did you reach out to him on this topic?
rudy giuliani
I reached out to Kemp about a dozen times.
In fact, I went to Georgia, as you know, several times and spent a lot of time there.
Met with everyone there.
The Majority Leader, the Minority Leader, the Speaker.
I'd say 40 members of the Legislature.
Met many of them on our side.
One told me directly that Ducey and the Attorney General were pressuring him not to vote for this.
He wanted to, but they were pressuring him.
I said, well, how are they pressuring him?
And he wouldn't tell me.
steve bannon
Ducey or Kemp?
I want to make sure we just separate this.
How many times did you...
rudy giuliani
I would say, of the two of them, Kemp was the more aggressive in trying to stop it.
I mean, he was on a mission to stop it.
Ducey would try to stay out of it, and then any opportunity he had to put the wrench in, he would.
unidentified
But they both should not be involved.
steve bannon
Kemp was more aggressive in trying to stop anything about an audit.
rudy giuliani
He acted like a man who had more to worry about than Ducey.
Ducey, although I have to say, You know, somebody else might disagree with me.
Ducey was pretty bad too.
I have no idea why any Republican committee of anything would want them to speak.
They wouldn't give us a fair hearing.
We weren't asking him to overturn the election.
I wasn't asking anybody.
I don't want anybody to overturn the election.
I want them to look at the evidence.
And then I want them to see if I'm not right.
I'm not God.
I'm a lawyer.
But I collected more evidence here than I normally have to prove a result.
So I want the right people And they wouldn't even step back and let their legislature do it.
Both legislatures would have, way back in December, voted that the election was fraudulent.
And they wanted it recounted.
They didn't stop it.
These two guys stopped it.
And they have to be a reason why they did it.
They didn't do it just for fun and games.
And as far as I'm concerned, that disqualifies you from, you know, you can show up at the Republican Governors Association, but nobody should talk to you.
steve bannon
We're gonna get to all that.
And you certainly shouldn't throw Mike Lindell out.
Okay, short commercial break.
We're in return with America's Mayor, THE Rudy Giuliani.
Also going to the border, Sheriff Mark Lamb, Nigel Farage, C. L. Bryant.
We got MTG later, Mike Lindell.
This show is packed today.
Be back in a moment.
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steve bannon
OK, there's so many massive narratives going on, we're going to get to all of them today.
We got MTG later in the show.
We got Mike Lindell.
Mike Lindell tossed out of the Republican Governors Association dinner, VIP dinner at the mansion, Governor's Mansion in Tennessee, that he was invited to as an honored guest.
Why?
Because on this show yesterday, he said he's going to confront He's going to confront Ducey in Arizona.
He's going to confront Kemp.
He's going to talk about why did you try to shut this thing down?
These patriots right now are making efforts and why are you guys showing absolutely no support?
He had a couple of basic questions.
They don't want to hear it, right?
They could care less what you say.
We've also got MTG.
On here later in the show talking about her defense of the State of Israel and the American Jewish community.
She's a firebrand.
She's going to be on the show later.
We've got Rudy Giuliani, so much going on.
By the way, the fall of the House of Fauci, that would be the Wuhan lab lead story on the largest paper in the world today, the Daily Mail.
Yes, the Republicans are demanding.
Republicans are demanding that Fauci be fired or stepped down immediately.
Peter Navarro on the show last week said Fauci's gone in 90 days.
The blood on his hand has all become evident.
He's now admitted for the first time yesterday in a congressional hearing, he admitted after lying and misrepresenting and spinning for over a year, almost a year and a half.
He finally admitted that NIH and NIAID, which he's responsible for, have been funding the Wuhan lab after his obfuscation of this.
And we know this from early January, from January of 2020 to February, March.
Peter Navarro's got all the receipts.
So because of this audience and your activism, your sharing, your being a force multiplier, all these are coming together.
It's all happening.
I want to go to the border now.
Nigel Farage is on the America Comeback Tour, the American Freedom Works.
They're everywhere.
They've been in Arizona.
Did we just lose that?
Okay, by the way, they're down on the border, so it's a little sketchy on the technology.
They're with Sheriff Mark Lamb, an American here, the Pinal County Sheriff.
They also got C.L.
Bryant down there, one of the great firebrands in the populist movement.
As soon as we get it set up, And to get the technical issues worked out, we're going to go back to this.
Oh, you've got a little satellite problem when you're doing them live.
I want to go back to Rudy.
Just, Rudy, I just want to sort, just settle this with this aspect, but to put it nicely, these two governors, who should show total support today of Patriots, just trying to get to the bottom of November 3rd.
They're trying to spin, oh 2022, we're going to set some new, we don't need any new laws.
We need to get to the bottom of what happened and who's responsible on November 3rd and get an accurate count.
If you want democracy, And they had CNN hectoring a senator fan yesterday in the parking lot, and she stood up to him.
She said, hey, One America is a more legitimate news source than CNN.
Laughed in the reporter's face, and they were in shock, right?
That's the headline.
One America, a good network for news, a better network for facts than CNN.
All the lies about Fauci, all the lies about the phony vote, all the lies are all coming to light.
So, Mayor, just to put it in a thing.
You're saying those guys not only weren't neutral, but that Ducey and Kemp, in your opinion, actively worked against getting to the bottom of it when we had the opportunity back in November and December.
Is that what I'm hearing from you?
rudy giuliani
100%.
They both were lobbying members of the legislature not to listen to us.
And they were both giving alternative theories to members of the legislature.
And they were also frightening them with, oh, this is going to be a loser and you're going to be painted as a kook or something.
I mean, both of them lobbied the legislature.
Had they not, in each case, the legislature would have sent us a letter asking for a withdrawal of the vote so they could reanalyze it under Article 2, Section 1, Clause 2 of the Constitution, which is their sole right.
And they were active in preventing an honest count.
Plus, neither one of them can defend the fact that they refuse to allow us to look at any ballot ever.
Up to this point, nobody on behalf of the Trump campaign has been able to see a ballot, so we can assure ourselves that they're valid pieces of paper and not some garbage that was made up a day or two after.
We've not been able to see the voter list, so we can't definitively compare it to the group of illegal immigrants or the group of out-of-town voters or the group of dead voters.
The information we have, we've all been able to put together piecemeal, which is why, since it's so extensive and so overwhelming, Any decent lawyer or judge or governor would say, okay, well, at least you have a right to look.
They refuse to give us a right to look.
They're saying we had a perfect election, but you can't see it.
I know, I've been in this business too long not to find that to be a very suspicious comment requiring much further investigation.
That's precisely what Kemp's Attorney General said.
This has been a perfect election.
Well, show us the ballots.
unidentified
No.
rudy giuliani
Show us the machines.
No.
Show us the voter rolls.
No.
Perfect election.
I show you everything.
Then I say, what a jerk you are, right?
So these guys are not, I don't know what they are.
They are not Republicans.
They have no right to carry themselves as Republicans.
Boy, the Democrats didn't have a problem with this.
They would go into states and they're Democratic governors that violate the law for them.
And they, and they did.
They set up rules that violate the constitution for them.
We can't get our guys to do the honest thing for us.
That's not right.
steve bannon
You talk about investigations.
I want to put a pin in about going to other states.
I'm going to get back to that.
Do you believe that either citizens start to do it or somehow authorities in the state of Arizona, in the state of Georgia, because sometimes it's got to be started by outside citizen groups to do it.
Do you believe Ducey and Kemp should come under personal investigation for their role in the suppression of information related to the election of November 3rd of 2020?
rudy giuliani
You know, I'd like to know.
I don't know.
I know what they did.
I don't know why they did it.
unidentified
Of course, the speculation is endless as to why they did it.
rudy giuliani
I would like to find out why they did it.
Why wouldn't they allow, for example, the simple request under court supervision, under law enforcement supervision, let us sit there and let us compare the paper that was submitted to the actual official paper and see how much unofficial paper was submitted.
We have several different I want the answer.
for that. We have experts that can be qualified for that.
They've been qualified in courts all over the country. And we're more than willing to do it in their presence. And then they'll tell me, hey, all the ballots are clean. Oh, my goodness, you got 50,000 ballots that were made up after the election was over.
unidentified
I just want the answer. They don't want the answer. The difference between the two of us are. I want the answer. They don't want the answer.
steve bannon
Okay, this is two different things.
One, you see in Georgia where we just had a court ruling, and you see Patriots up in New Hampshire, you see it in Michigan, we're hearing word now in Pennsylvania at the Senate level, in Wisconsin.
There's clearly an effort underway, and this is why the mainstream media is melting down, there's an effort underway by Patriots throughout the country to save our democracy, to actually get to the real count of exactly what happened on November 3rd, and to do that on the deck plates with full forensic audits, Re-canvassings, and eventually get to the machines.
Okay, those three things.
I'm asking you something different.
I'm asking you about Kemp.
Kemp and Ducey last night, because of what Mike Lindell said on the show, and he's going to come and tell us the whole thing, threw him out, basically wouldn't let him go to the governor's mansion to a dinner he had been invited to, a VIP dinner.
rudy giuliani
He's outrageous!
Should they be investigated personally about their involvement in the suppression of We need to know the answer why they did such very bizarre things.
Why they went so far to protect what they say are ballots and machines and other processes that show a clean election.
They should want to be anxious to show the world all those records and say, look how clean our election is.
I'm sorry, I've been doing it too long.
There has to be a reason they're fighting for their lives to hide this.
And they don't even want to be questioned by Mike Lindell.
What's Mike Lindell going to ask him that they can't answer?
What he's going to ask him is, you know, why did you why did you basically cover up the ballots?
Why wouldn't you let fellow Republicans look at those ballots to see and satisfy themselves if they are crazy nuts and all these ballots are valid?
In three days, we'll find out.
But if, in fact, your president had the election stolen in this state, then we'll vindicate justice.
We weren't going to eat the ballots.
They're going to be protected by other people watching us.
We couldn't change it or go to jail.
So there's something wrong in the state of Georgia and the state of Arizona.
There's something wrong is right in the governor's mansion.
And we should find out why.
If there's an innocent explanation, they can give it fast enough.
But from my point of view, they are two of the biggest reasons why we have half the American people wondering, was it a fair election?
Those two guys and what we have them doing in the Republican Party.
When they went out of their way to unseat a Republican, or at least not to give him a fair hearing.
We didn't want them to take a position.
We wanted to just look at the evidence.
And they wouldn't do it.
And they wouldn't even allow us to present witnesses.
We had to do it behind their backs.
steve bannon
Mayor, I know you support going throughout the nation as the evidence comes forward in Arizona and then in Georgia, but we're running out of time.
I've got to ask you about this.
The Manhattan DA, this huge news of impaling a grand jury.
Is this a political witch hunt on the 45th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, in your opinion?
rudy giuliani
Well, the Attorney General of the state ran on the unusual platform, I'm going to get Trump.
And the DA works very closely with her.
He's on his way out because he's been a really horrible DA for lots of reasons.
unidentified
But this is a vendetta.
rudy giuliani
It should be illegal if it isn't illegal for a prosecutor to conduct a witch hunt investigation trying to find a crime on you.
Just pick somebody.
Steve Bannon, Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump, Mr. Jones.
I'm going to look at his whole life and let's see if I can pin a crime on him.
That's what they're doing to Donald Trump.
They've been looking at his whole life, 30 years ago, 20 years ago.
Did he ever commit a crime?
Ever.
The way you investigate crime in a democracy, in a country of laws, is you get some form of, it's not quite probable cause, but some indication that a crime was committed.
We investigate it.
We investigate crimes that lead to people.
We don't just investigate people.
That happens in a dictatorship.
And don't tell me when I've hit a depression.
unidentified
We're headed in the direction of a socialist dictatorship.
steve bannon
We've got to bounce.
We've got 30 seconds.
Tell us about the podcast.
How do people get to it?
I know the podcast is exploding.
How do people get to the podcast?
rudy giuliani
RudisCommonsense.com.
RudisCommonsense.com.
And it's going to take up the issue of exactly what I just said, how fast we're moving toward socialism.
We all know that things are bad.
They're terrible.
We don't put them together.
There's a common plan for this.
It's all being worked out.
They're meeting.
The Marxist goals of this country, they're exceeding the guideposts at this point.
And I think I can show it through Marxist literature and contemporary literature.
steve bannon
Mayor, we'll get everybody, we'll put it in the live chat for the audience in all different chat rooms.
Mayor, thank you.
We'll return to the border in the War Room.
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steve bannon
Okay, we're going to have the armor-piercing show that is Mike Lindell in the next hour.
He was thrown out of the Republican Governors Association meeting last night that he was invited to at the governor's mansion in Tennessee because of his throwdown.
He wanted answers from Ducey, the governor of Arizona, and from Kemp, the governor of Georgia, about why not just they were neutral, but they were actually trying to oppose getting to a full accounting and exactly what happened on November 3rd, the year of our Lord, 2020.
And at the War Room, we're relentless about two things.
We're going to get to the bottom of that, and we're going to get to the bottom of the Wuhan lab.
Lead story in the Daily Mail of London, the biggest paper in the world, biggest online site, 10x drudge, says that the Republicans are now demanding that Anthony Fauci be fired for his lies and misrepresentations.
About what?
Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it, The Wuhan Lab.
Okay, if you've been a follower of this show since January 2020, you know we've been nailing Fauci since that day, and he's got a lot to answer for.
Okay, we're going to go to the border now.
We've got Sheriff Mark Lamb to fire breathe the sea, O'Brien and Nigel Farage.
Nigel, Thank you very much for coming on here, for the tour you're out there.
Listen, you were the individual that worked with the British people and got their sovereignty back from the European Union against all odds.
You're a specialist in the nation state and what sovereignty means.
Why are you at the border?
Why did you go to the, with this big tour you've got going on, all the responsibilities, all the demands on your time, why did you take time today to go with the great Sheriff Mark Lamb from Pinal County?
Why did you decide to go down to the Arizona-United States-Mexico border, sir?
nigel farage
Because controlling borders is an essential part of sovereignty, an essential part of being a nation.
And you know, Steve, I pounded the streets for years talking about sovereignty.
And to some people, that was an abstract concept.
And then when the UK opened its doors unconditionally to illegal immigration and legal immigration on a scale that had never been seen, In the history of our islands, suddenly sovereignty became real because suddenly communities saw large influxes of people that didn't speak their language, in some cases didn't share their culture in any way at all, and it became real.
Mass immigration became real and it was the issue, it was the issue that woke people up to the fact we've lost our borders, we've lost control of our nation, we've got to get it back.
Without our borders going as soft as they did, we simply couldn't have got Brexit done.
My hunch, Steve, is this.
My hunch is that this border crisis that we're seeing with Biden this year and the numbers that have come into the US already are absolutely mind-blowing.
Many of these people are going to get plonked into communities all over America.
Every state is going to become a border state and I think you'll find huge numbers of patriotic people.
They voted Democrat for years but they will look at what's happening in their communities They will see, frankly, the humiliation that America is suffering on its borders.
And I think this could be the issue for the midterms.
I really, really do.
steve bannon
Nigel, take a second because you know this mentality better than anybody and I think this is what's caught the American people so by almost shock that these elites in Washington on Wall Street and these global woke corporations now almost have a Party of Davos or World Economic Forum mentality when it comes to the American border.
Walk people through.
You confronted this for years.
And it took the British people awakening to the fact of what was happening to themselves to demand and vote for their sovereignty back and then to fight for it years after they won the vote.
Remember, the globalists aren't prepared to give it back.
I think this border crisis now is really something very different because they're seeing this kind of globalist, world economic forum mentality when it comes to the American border.
Can you put that in perspective for us?
nigel farage
Yeah, I mean, globalists don't believe in countries, don't believe in flags, want to erase and eradicate our history and make us all global citizens.
And they want the free flow of people so that big businesses get cheap labour.
And those that work in DC and London who are of that left-wing persuasion, they're totally unconcerned by these issues.
I mean, hey, Steve, it takes me a foreigner.
The Vice President hasn't even been here yet, which kind of sums up how they think about it.
They're not worried about it.
For many, many of the rich, illegal immigration means Cheaper domestic servants, cheaper chauffeurs.
They're happy.
The people that pay the price of this are ordinary families in working communities who are going to see fundamental social change, are going to see in many cases their wages being driven down by oversupply of labour.
That's where it impacts.
And of course, so many of those people affected will traditionally have been Democrat voters.
They're going to be alienated, you know, from Harris and others who do not seem to care about this issue.
And that's why the opportunity is so enormous, because we believe in the nation state.
We believe in our flags, our histories.
We're proud of who we are as a people.
And controlling borders is absolutely a part of that agenda.
And that, Steve, is without even beginning to talk about the fact that so many that are coming illegally to America go straight into the drugs trade, prostitution, you know, the whole illegality of modern slavery.
And yet the left appear to be wholly unconcerned by that as well.
steve bannon
Yeah, I know you've got, I think Marianne Mendoza's helped you get there.
I think she's there today from the Angel Family.
It's just also about the criminality.
Before I go to Sheriff Lamb and to CL and Marianne, I've got to ask you, this tour, you know, today we're on fire about the count in Arizona.
You've got this incident last night at the Republican Governance Association.
As you've gone around now, because you've kind of gone around the country, I know you're going to continue the tour, but you have gone all the way from Florida now to Arizona.
What are the two or three things that you're hearing people consistently say that's at the top of their mind of their worries and concerns about where we are today and how do we actually technically get the country back?
nigel farage
Well, breakdown of communities in the cities in particular.
You know, Marxist organizations like Black Lives Matter who actually want to divide us all up into different groups and make us hate each other.
So people are very scared about their cities and I can see now Because of the way critical race theory, for example, is being taught in schools, that people are beginning to want to do something about it.
They're obviously very concerned that Biden may well pack the court, may well do something to get rid of the Electoral College.
They're scared about that.
But of course, everyone's talking about the count in Maricopa and what it's going to mean.
Is it the first domino to fall?
All I would say, Steve, to that is regardless of the outcome in Maricopa County, the conservative movement It has to get itself organised, mobilised and ready to fight regardless.
And what I have seen over the last five weeks is maybe when I first got here, people appeared to be a little bit in mourning for what was going on.
We had a meeting in Phoenix last night.
I've got to tell you, the energy, the electricity in that room and people saying, yep, we want to help.
We want to get involved.
We want to stand for school boards.
We want to deliver leaflets.
We want to make phone calls.
And I'm seeing a lot more energy from the Conservative movement.
I really am.
steve bannon
Nigel, do you believe what you're seeing, the energy, and I think it's one of the reasons you're seeing it in Phoenix, you know, MTG and Gates were out there last week, is the fact that this is where patriots, not the Republican Party, not the leadership, this has come from the deplorables, have forced this audit to take place and they've already found out major they've already found major discrepancies is going to continue its metastasize the Georgia how important do you believe in your personal opinion about getting our sovereignty back
is the get to the bottom of November 3rd by having now audits in all the states in Pennsylvania in Michigan Wisconsin New Hampshire all of them sir. No I absolutely hope Steve that does happen and clearly clearly there were all sorts of irregularities that need to be looked at That process could go on for many, many months.
nigel farage
So I repeat the point.
Anybody out there that's a Conservative, don't just pin all your hopes on this.
You've got to get ready to fight those next set of elections.
You've got to get organised.
You've got to get mobilised.
Look, I hope we find out what we want, Steve, but none of us know what the outcome will be.
What we do know is there are midterms coming up In 2022.
What we do know is that in Israel, in the Ukraine, and even dare one say in Taiwan, because of a very weak US president, the world is rapidly becoming a very unstable place.
And America is the only country that can stop that.
So you're not just fighting to beat the Democrats.
This battle is about Western civilization.
So yes, let's hope the audits Let's do their business, but for goodness sake, let's get mobilized, let's get organized, let's end that feeling of disillusion and get back some positivity.
steve bannon
One last thing before we go to Sheriff Lamb.
I've got to ask you, this is a warning you gave this audience, you gave us years ago.
How important now, besides the audits going on the deck plates, is it for the Trump movement, the deplorables, the conservative movement?
A majority of Americans, a big majority of Americans absolutely agree with photo ID to go and vote.
and these machines. Do you see the possibility that we could have fair elections, continue with what the regulations on the books today, even though all they're being tightened up, as long as we have these issues with mail-in ballots and you have this machine voting? A majority of Americans, a big majority of Americans, absolutely agree with photo ID to go and vote. And yes, I think it's absolutely vital that through all of those state legislatures, people make sure this never happens again.
nigel farage
I've said it on your show many times before.
I'll say it again.
There is no system of mass mail-out ballot voting that is not open to widespread fraud and intimidation.
And you know what?
The French may not get much right, but they've got election integrity, right?
And Steve, they don't have counting machines.
You don't need counting machines.
You have a manual count.
The votes are put in packs.
You can see the bundles and the whole thing's added up.
I would say, honestly, The only reason anybody should ever get a mail-out ballot is they're 97 years old in a wheelchair or they're serving in the army overseas.
Beyond that, there is no need for mail-out voting.
If you really want to have a functioning democracy, give people a piece of paper and a pencil and the privacy of a polling booth.
And that is the only way, followed by manual counting, you can guarantee the integrity of the result.
And that is what, that is what the movement must fight for.
I must make an election issue at every given opportunity.
steve bannon
I want to go back, before I lose you, I want to go back to sovereignty and to the border, where you stand today, down the Arizona-Mexican border, right there, with Pinal County Sheriff Mark Lambs, who joins us in a second.
But, for the deplorables, the solution right now, since it's clearly gone from a crisis to an emergency, A policy solution that should be supported.
Do you believe we've got to go back to the zero tolerance policies under President Trump?
Do you believe we have to build the wall?
Do you believe that the fight for the Trump movement and the conservative movement is down in the Rio Grande Valley, down in Southern Arizona, down in South Texas?
Is this where we take our stand?
nigel farage
is right there, sir.
And he then, he then got those boats that were coming.
He took them under tow and took them straight back to Indonesia.
And do you know what happened, Steve?
The boats stopped coming.
Stone.
The Republican Party has got to find a credible answer to this crisis.
Just saying it's dreadful isn't enough.
They've got to provide a solution.
And frankly, I think I think that what really they must say is that anybody, literally anybody, that comes via this route will not be allowed to stay.
It is, I'm afraid to say, the only solution.
steve bannon
Nigel, real quickly before we go to break, and we're bringing Sheriff Lamb and CL at the other side of the break, but just tell people once again about your tour.
How do people get to it?
Where are you going to go?
And I got to tell you, I've heard from people in every location.
It's unbelievable.
You get to hear Nigel Farage speak and others, but the energy is building at each stop.
So how do people get to the site?
Where do you head from here?
nigel farage
Yeah, Steve, there's a real buzz to it.
There's a real energy.
We are actually infusing people.
And that story of how the Brits have beaten the globalists and beaten the socialists in England is a very inspiring message.
America's Comeback 2021.com Nigel Farage.
steve bannon
We're going to return, take a short commercial break.
We're going to return to the Arizona border.
We're going to have an American patriot.
Sheriff Mark Lamb is going to join us from Pinal County.
We've also got C.L.
Bryant.
Hopefully we get Miriam Mendoza from the Angel Families, another patriot, all in the war room.
Followed in the next hour, we've got Mike Lindell.
Tell us what happened in Nashville last night.
And then the glorious MTG.
She's going to join us and talk about her defense of Israel and the American Jewish people.
All in the next hour in The War Room.
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Okay, I want to go back.
To the Arizona-Mexico border, the border of our beloved country, got a hero here, Pinal County Sheriff Mark Lamb.
Sheriff, there's been a lot of talk, you know, Nigel just challenged Kamala Harris to come down to the border with him.
She's supposed to be in charge of it.
Do we have an emergency on the border or has it now gone to a crisis?
You're the tip of the spear.
So tell our audience and the audience throughout the world, what exactly is going on, how bad is it?
unidentified
Oh, it's bad, Steve.
And you're right.
It's been a crisis since they took office.
You know, we've always had border issues here, but we had a president under President Trump who was willing to work with law enforcement and try to address the issue.
And we saw a lot of success and a lot of, we saw a huge reduction in the amount of people coming over.
That changed immediately on January 20th.
Not only did the lines of communication stop, But the crisis started in a heavy way, and it is an emergency now.
I don't know if you can see behind me, but all this trash that you see are backpacks, camouflaged clothes, water bottles, carpet shoes, like what you see here, which is what they use to mask them coming into this country.
I'm 60 miles off the border right here.
This is a flat-out invasion, almost.
I mean, they're coming in here, military-age men from who-knows-what countries, they're throwing their trash in our deserts, and they're going into our communities with who-knows-what.
I'm just going to say this one thing, I'll throw it back over to you, Steve, is this is not about immigration anymore.
This is about human trafficking and drug trafficking in this country.
I don't care what your politics are, whether you're Republican, Democrat, Independent, or whether you're from Britain.
You should be able to recognize that border security is an impactful issue.
This is a human rights issue.
The cartels are abusing people on a daily basis, and we are doing the best we can in law enforcement, and credit goes to those good men and women of Border Patrol and ICE as well, because they're doing this job still, even though they have no support from Washington.
steve bannon
Sheriff Lamb, is it in your opinion and your analysis that the Biden administration's policies and actions have empowered the cartels?
unidentified
No doubt.
Their policies, as awful as they are, have absolutely empowered the cartels.
The cartels making more money now than they've ever made.
And they're making as much money, if not more money, off of bodies than they are off of drugs.
And mind you, these drugs that they're bringing in are dangerous drugs.
They're synthetic drugs like methamphetamine.
And fentanyl.
In 2018, here in Pinal County, we had zero M30 fentanyl pill seizures.
In 2019, we had 677.
In 2020, we had over 200,000.
And in 2021, I guarantee you, we are going to blow those numbers out.
200,000. And in 2021, I guarantee you, we are going to blow those numbers out. And that's just my agency, Steve.
So, this should be alarming to everybody.
Nigel mentioned it.
This is not an Arizona problem, even though 50% of all illegal drugs that come into America come through Arizona's borders.
This is an America problem.
The problem doesn't stay in my county.
It goes to communities across this country.
So, whether you live in Iowa, Illinois, North Carolina, this problem's coming to you and it's coming fast.
steve bannon
Every town's a border town, as we said when we built the wall and we took the tour on the road.
Every town in this country is a border town.
Sheriff, I gotta ask you, I just saw, I think we're in Sinaloa, another law enforcement, I think a sheriff in Sinaloa was gunned down.
Just tell our audience, how brutal are these cartels?
How inhuman are these cartels?
unidentified
They are the most brutal you can imagine.
I mean, the things that they do to other human beings, is unimaginable. We get these K&R reports which show the actual gruesome pictures of people's heads being chopped off, of bodies laying in the street that have been shot or executed, or women who've been raped, children who've been raped and used as pawns.
I mean, these folks know no bounds and they could care less about humans.
All they care about is money.
And they have a presidency here in the U.S.
that is only helping them grow and get more and more money every day.
So, look, I, you know, I started off I'm hoping that they would come in and do their job, that this administration would recognize it for what it was.
But day by day, I see they have zero desire to fix this.
And as an American, and as somebody who's dedicated to the Constitution and protecting this community, I cannot stand by in silence.
You know, like I say, silence in the face of such calamity is sin.
steve bannon
Sheriff Lamb, what actions do you recommend be taken today and how can this audience assist you in that, sir?
unidentified
Well, you asked Nigel what they needed to do, whether they needed to go back to Trump's policies.
The fact is, because of their policies and how lenient they've been, they actually have to go harder now.
You need to do a hard shutdown on the border.
Nobody else comes in.
You cannot let anybody else in.
That way we can deal with the unaccompanied minors and the families that have come in.
We can process that.
You cannot let any more people in.
Our communities can't support any more drugs.
Our housing markets and our economy can't support any more people coming in here, unbeknownst to us.
Our crime rates cannot sustain it.
These are things that we have to stop.
And the longer they wait, the harder this is going to be to gain control.
They're going to have to take measures that we've never had to take.
And they will have to do that eventually, or else we're going to fall apart as a country.
steve bannon
Sheriff Lamb, real quickly, got about a minute.
I know you're launching a new service that people get more access to exactly what's going on.
Tell people what's happening and how they can participate.
unidentified
You know, I think one of the things that the media and these politicians have done is they've taken away our voice in law enforcement.
And do we have good men and women to put this badge on every day?
So what we wanted to do is we're launching a network that showcases the sheriff's offices across this country.
We're also going to showcase America through the eyes of sheriffs.
It's called American Sheriff Network.
We're going to put the American people back in our front seats.
We're going to show them the training we go through.
We're going to show them the decisions we make on a daily basis.
We're going to show them how we protect our communities.
And you know what?
We're going to keep the shine on the badge.
And I need the American people's help with that.
We never lost the shine.
The shine was taken from us by this media and politicians who want chaos in this country.
No different than what we're seeing in Washington with their policies here on the border.
They want chaos in our communities, and we are resisting that as sheriffs.
And hopefully you'll check out protectamericanow.com, which is also sheriffs.
But please, americansheriff.com, check it out, support law enforcement, give us our voice back.
steve bannon
Sheriff Lim, thank you very much.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
I want C.L.
Bryant and Miriam Mendoza to hold.
We're going to bring them back.
We're going to go back to the Arizona border.
We've got the armor-piercing shell that is Mike Lindell.
He got tossed out of the highfalutin big shot dinner last night in Nashville, but he's here to tell us what's going on with the vote.
Also, we have the glorious MTG.
She's throwing down hard when she comes in the War Room.
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