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May 13, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 945 – Here Come the Receipts … Fraud in Maricopa and the Coming Digital Currency RevolutionEpisode 945 – Here Come the Receipts … Fraud in Maricopa and the Coming Digital Currency Revolution
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boris epshteyn
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mark jeftovic
06:09
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raheem kassam
05:34
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steve bannon
24:49
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steve cortes
01:03
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anthony fauci
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chip roy
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unidentified
The virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham.
Well, first of all, the conference will decide, but I don't think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election.
I think that is all over with.
We're sitting here with the president today.
So, from that point of view, I don't think that's a problem.
steve cortes
Now, the D.C.
power brokers should know about the important need to ask questions, because the government has lied to us before in really significant ways.
The Pentagon Papers expose lies fed to us about Vietnam.
The Afghanistan papers uncovered systemic lies, more recently, of the Bush and Obama administrations about our two-decade war in that country.
And look, regarding the election, there are real, data-driven reasons to doubt the accuracy of the 2020 election as reported.
There are also important constitutional issues, violations of the 14th Amendment, even if the high court cowardly refused to take them on.
We cannot be bullied.
We cannot be intimidated.
The 2020 election was marred by material and significant problems.
Problems that we must fix now for 2022, 2024 and thereafter.
So that we can move forward as a country and so that we can coalesce once again.
unidentified
The President of the United States deserves universal condemnation for what was clearly, in my opinion, impeachable conduct, pressuring the Vice President to violate his oath of the Constitution to count the electors.
His open and public pressure, courageously rejected by the Vice President, purposely seeded the false belief among the President's supporters, including those assembled on January 6th, that there was a legal path with the President.
It was foreseeable and reckless to sow such a false belief that could lead to violence and rioting by loyal supporters whipped into a frenzy.
Unfortunately, my Democratic colleagues drafted articles that I believe are flawed and unsupportable.
Focusing on the legal terms of incitement and insurrection.
Even noting impeachment does not require meeting a certain legal standard, the danger for open speech and debate in this body and for the Republic is high.
If the House approves, the articles is written.
chip roy
The language will be used to target members of this body under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
unidentified
It will be used to suggest that any statements we make are subject to review by our colleagues and send us down the perilous path of cleansing political speech in the public square.
We must end this.
Let us condemn that which must be condemned and do so loudly.
But let us do it the right way, with deliberation, and without disastrous side effects.
We must end tearing apart our nation by social media and soundbites.
Let us stop.
Let us debate.
Let us sit down and lead this nation together.
steve bannon
Chip Roy right there.
Welcome to the War Room Thursday, 13 May, Year of the Lord 2021, the evening show.
A lot going on in Arizona throughout the nation.
Also going to talk about cryptocurrency.
We've got a lot going on.
A vaccine, you can take your mask off now.
So says Joe Biden.
Just kind of made another thing just made up by CDC, just out of the air.
All of a sudden, it's okay.
It's okay because we're getting crushed everywhere else.
You've got to have, Raheem says they've got to have a win.
Is Boris up yet?
Do I have Boris Epstein?
Boris, you gotta come in and help me out here, dude.
I'm not quite understanding what's going on.
I got McCarthy, and I don't know what planet he's on, saying, hey, nobody's got any issues with what happened on November 3rd, right?
And you're sitting there with a letter that's a thermonuclear device coming from the Senate of Arizona that talks about essentially criminal activity.
Then you got the great Steve Cortez coming in hot last night on Newsmax, right?
And is Raheem Kassani going to be a guest on that show tonight on The Cortez Show?
unidentified
That's right.
steve bannon
Can we break that?
Okay, Steve Cortez has Raheem Kassan.
And the great Jen Pellegrino as co-host.
And then, this is what I don't get.
Just before we come on, Boris, The New York Post, I think, is breaking a story.
Ken Buck, who's the only congressman to sit in for Cheney's beatdown of the president the other night in Congress, he's nominating Chip Roy, and that's Chip Roy right there, condemning the president and said he's basically guilty of insurrection and starting a, and his speech was false, defamatory, and led to this.
But, you know, we shouldn't actually go forward because he cites some part of the Constitution.
But now he's going to run against Elise Stefanik, who has said she fully supports getting to the bottom of November 3rd, and she's getting eviscerated by the mainstream media.
Remember, you've got to rank order your priorities at times of life.
Right now, there's nothing more important than getting to the bottom of November 3rd.
Hey, and this is not Stephen K. Bannon saying this.
This is Donald J. Trump, the 45th President of the United States, that once again today came out, Boris, and really reinforced what was going on in Arizona.
So can you help us, Boris, and put this in perspective?
What the heck is going on here?
boris epshteyn
Well, Steve, what's going on is that you have this leftover portion of the Republican Party Which has been absolutely passed by, represented by Chip Roy, now trying to roar back.
Liz Cheney literally just this week got kicked out of Republican leadership, and now Chip Roy, who's just, as I said yesterday, I'll say it again, Liz Cheney with less hair, thinks that he's gonna come in there and somehow galvanize the Republican Party after attacking President Trump, not being there for President Trump on key votes, on key votes on our veterans, on TSA, On Senior so on and so forth.
Chip Roy, who attacked the MAGA movement, and as you said, was all in favor of impeachment, but then kind of wiggled out of it at the end, while the Constitution says we should debate it longer.
But this is somebody in Chip Roy who is not the leader who we need.
Congressman Roy is entitled to his opinion, and his constituents are entitled to either keep him as their congressman or not, just like the people of Wyoming either will keep Liz Cheney as their congresswoman or they won't.
Likely they won't.
If you look at the polling out of Wyoming, where Liz Cheney's at about 10%.
But the issue is, as Republicans, as the party, how can the leadership even consider having somebody like Chip Roy in leadership?
Because he is, once again, just punching away at the MAGA movement, which represents about 90-95% of the Republican Party.
We have to have a Connection.
We have to have a parallel, a symbiotic relationship between the leadership of the party in D.C.
and the MAGA populace, the MAGA brain trust that's represented by the viewership of the War Room.
So, Steve, what's going on is you're seeing more of that disconnect, and the longer it goes on, the more dangerous it is for the leaders of the Republican Party in Washington, D.C.
Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy.
And you're already hearing rumblings out of the Senate because people see what happened to Liz Cheney, and they're saying, well, if that just happened to Liz Cheney, how long is Mitch McConnell going to survive?
Because he's said some of the same very negative things about President Trump and the MAGA movement.
steve bannon
John Thune also.
Put John Thune on the list.
I want to go back though.
Chip Roy just didn't, this isn't just popping in Chip Roy's head.
And Chip Roy's not going down a suicide mission.
And by the way, I want to make sure people understand this.
Chip Roy not only condemned in the moment, in the valiant decision, right, then condemned President Trump, did not vote to review any of the states.
Chip Roy look at Arizona what you you missed okay, and you're gonna see, Georgia, Pennsylvania all of them Okay that the left is fighting And just check the letter out from the Senate He also went after the MAGA movement. I mean he's essentially implying that there's these were insurrectionists And this was sedition he played directly into the left-wing media's This is somebody who opposed the seating of I believe 67 of his fellow members
boris epshteyn
because he did not agree with people standing up for election integrity.
He didn't like that people were casting doubt and having opposition to the Electoral College votes.
So, not only did he not himself stand up, he stood against those who did.
So how could Chip Roy, somebody who is not MAGA at all, is absolute swamp, how can Chip Roy even have a shot at leadership?
You look at somebody like Elise Stefanik.
Congresswoman Stefanik stood with President Trump on both sham impeachments.
She fought against the sham impeachments.
And she stood with the President and the MAGA movement in objecting and pointing out these myriad of issues.
And we're finding out more and more and more of this bombshell, no less than bombshell letter out of Arizona yesterday.
Elise Stefanik has been calling it out.
She's been calling it like she sees it, calling it like the MAGA movement sees it, while Chip Roy is trying to have his head in the sand and said, no, no, everything's fine.
Business is normal.
We're the same old, you know, cowed-down Republican Party who people are nice to on CNN and MSNBC.
That is not what we want.
That is not what we need.
Congressman Roy is fine to have his own opinion.
And if his constituents are okay with that, that is their choice.
That is the beauty of America.
But as the MAGA movement, as the Republican Party, we cannot have that in leadership.
steve bannon
Let me just connect some dots here for the audience.
Remember the Lincoln Project guys sitting around the table, trashing everybody?
They did have a concept that they put out there, because remember, those are bad guys, but they're smart guys.
They don't have wisdom, but they're crafty.
They talked about going into hinges and going into pieces where you've got to, on your point of attack, have to hit.
boris epshteyn
A lot of tax liens over there with those guys.
steve bannon
A lot of tax liens.
Yeah, but this is, and some other issues that we won't get into today, right?
They talk about how you get in and how you get into the hinges, how you get into the inflection points.
This is one of the reasons, of all the stuff we cover, and we cover a lot here, and we always try to be ahead of it for months, this is why National Pulse and Natalie Winters and everybody are so obsessed with Wuhan.
This is why we're so obsessed with November 3rd in Wuhan.
Those are type of, they are central to the narrative, and to the governing apparatus, and you cannot go forward until you get to the bottom of it, and you know that they're going to fight you every step of the way, but once you get there, these are game changers.
It is, at least Stefanik, remember this, in this entire city, you just saw McCarthy On the very day of Liz Cheney, and you talk about messaging, he walks into the sticks before going to see Biden.
And says, there's nothing, there's nothing doing with, there's no questions, what is it?
There's no questions about legitimacy on November 3rd.
Brother, what planet are you on?
And with somebody on his staff, because he's such an embarrassing clown, I don't mind him being a pledge chairman, okay?
Pledge chairman at the front.
But somebody on the staff has to take material to him and get his yellow highlighter out, because that's what he does when he goes on TV, get that yellow highlighter, and highlight The letter from Arizona and other issues.
But, since Stefanika said, hey, November 3rd, we've got to get to the bottom of that.
Okay?
We need to get to the bottom of that.
From that moment, Club for Growth, and they've been after her before, Club for Growth, and all Club for Growth, it's a dark money group, all they want All they want is tax cuts for the very wealthy.
They want corporatist tax cuts.
They don't care about entrepreneurs.
They're not working on the pass-through.
They want tax cuts for the biggest corporations, and they want tax cuts for the wealthiest donors.
That is all they care for.
Right?
And Elise Stefanik's blue-collar people up in her district, they're of no interest.
The MAGA movement are of no interest.
They said the other day, look at all the good stuff.
They've lightened him up, McIntosh, for all the vitriol he's put on Trump.
And he says, yeah, but you've got to consider all the goodies, all the good things Trump did, which is the tax cuts.
It's the club for growth that's in back at Chip Roy.
And that's why this is so greasy to do.
This is not about principles.
This is about all they want to do is make sure that tax cuts are put in there.
I got news for them.
Tax cuts are the last thing people are thinking about right now.
And keeping the tax cuts for the upper bracket Right?
And keeping tax cuts for the corporations that turned on everybody and started cancel culture and are deplatforming you and debanking you.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
This is what David McIntosh is selling and he's using Chip Roy as his instrument.
I'm telling you, by this announcement, Chip Roy is not only going to get primary, Chip Roy is going to get beaten in a primary and Club for Growth as a symbol of what MAGA is doing in Texas.
And Boris, can you stay over until the next break?
boris epshteyn
You got it.
I'll stay through the next break.
If MAGA does not, if MAGA does not feel comfortable with a candidate right now in the Republican Party, There's no reason for that candidate to come forward.
That is the news that everybody has to understand.
The leadership, the rank and file of the parties, you know, throughout the country.
Right now, the MAGA movement is the Republican Party.
And there's absolutely no room in leadership of the Republican Party for somebody like Chip Roy.
There is for Elise Stefanik, who will continue pushing America First principles, America First ideals, stand with President Trump, and the MAGA movement.
steve bannon
We're gonna bounce for one second.
unidentified
Come back with Boris Rahim next.
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Okay, I want to pivot back to, we're burning daylight here.
We've got a lot to get through.
A whole bunch of information on vaccines.
Joe Biden's got a new tweet out.
Reem's going to walk us through in a second.
Boris, Arizona, from the bombshell last night.
I know they're scrambling out there.
They're at each other's throats now.
A public hearing on Tuesday to answer these, really, these charges.
What's the latest?
Is DOJ going to come in tomorrow and shut this thing down?
boris epshteyn
As of now, the response to this letter has been of absolute and utter shock.
Because here's what the mainstream media have been doing, right?
They've been saying, oh, these are a bunch of kooks, and they don't know what they're doing with this audit.
It's all nonsense.
Instead, here come the receipts like a freight train, okay?
Receipts, numbers of ballots missing, databases missing, issues, specific issues where subpoenas are not being, were not being followed.
So what you're having is a show of force from the Arizona State Senate and the auditors, where again, they're bringing the receipts on all the shortcomings, all the deficiencies that have only been Shown in about 20% of the audit that's taken place so far.
We're only 20% through the audit.
80% of the count left, and then you've got the re-canvas, and then you still have to look at the machines.
You've got all the issues with the routers and the passwords.
The quagmire in Arizona for the election system, for Democrats, for Joe Biden, Is absolutely unparalleled.
And now, after this letter has come out, we see what it is that the Democrats and the media have been hiding.
What it is that the RINO, the RINO Republicans, the Republicans in name only, in Arizona, have been hiding.
Why they didn't want the truth to come out.
Because the election in Arizona, which is by the way, not one of the ones that we understand to be the worst.
Georgia, terrible.
Pennsylvania, terrible.
Michigan, terrible.
The Dane County, Milwaukee County in Wisconsin, terrible.
steve bannon
Terrible, terrible.
boris epshteyn
Just in Arizona, what you have is an absolute disaster, and that is what the Democrats have been hiding, but the jig is up.
It's up!
unidentified
Now see the results!
steve bannon
Best, most honest, best run, Katie Hobbs and Ducey's report on this too.
This is why his political career is over.
Boris, what's your social media?
People gotta be following this every second of every day.
Gotta follow Boris' social media.
And you have to be on Gateway Pundit, Populous Press, Citizens Free Press, the breaking stories, linking the stuff all day long.
This is now starting to heat up.
It is about to get extremely nasty out there, folks.
Boris, what's your social media?
boris epshteyn
Steve, you're right.
It's getting hot.
It's getting hotter.
And this is exactly what we expected.
And honestly, in some ways, the results of the first 20% of this audit in Arizona are even worse than I thought.
Stay strong.
God bless.
Boris underscore Epstein, Boris underscore EPS HTEN on the gram, at Boris CP on Twitter.
Stay strong. God bless. All eyes on Arizona.
steve bannon
Okay, the president just put a statement I'm going to get to it in a second, but I've got this.
What is this, Joe Biden?
Joe Biden, President of the United States, just put out something, Raheem, because I want you to respond to it.
This is his tweet, official Twitter account.
The rule is now simple.
Get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do.
The choice is yours.
I think we've now seen the forcing function to the ultimate vaccine passport from the president of states.
That's a direct order.
Either get vaccinated and you take your mask or wear a mask until you do.
And I'm not conspiracy theory guy, but you notice that the letter comes out.
It's starting to get unraveled about his legitimacy.
And lo and behold, Rahim, on a beautiful May afternoon, he walks into the Rose Garden and he makes this announcement.
Sir, thoughts, observations, analysis?
raheem kassam
So the first thing that stands out to me here is that Joe Biden has actually tweeted this twice in two different ways on two different accounts.
So you've got the at Joe Biden account and then you've got the official at POTUS account.
Let me read the difference to you in these.
So one of the tweets, and they're put out at the same time, one of the tweets says, After a year of hard work and so much sacrifice, the rule is now simple.
Get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do.
The official POTUS account says the rule is now simple.
Get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do.
The choice is yours.
Right?
Now, that's not a choice.
That is the antithesis of choice, is what he's giving people there.
He's locking people, attempting to lock people into a thing.
But you see how you can interpret two different things here.
So, the official POTUS one...
Is doing what you said it was doing, which is a forcing function, right?
Yes, that's an order.
No freedom until you get this thing stuck in you.
The other account is like, hey, you know, this is a victory.
We need this win.
We're getting this win today.
You don't have to wear a mask anymore.
It's posed in a different way and they serve two different purposes.
The purposes are, number one, like you say, they absolutely, I mean, look at the border, look at the economy, look at the gas prices, look at everything, and look at the polling that's coming out, right?
Suddenly you'll see a lot of people don't want to be hyping polling anymore, right?
CNN and all these guys.
steve bannon
I don't see polls up all the time.
raheem kassam
No, no, you won't see them this week.
steve bannon
Because he's going under 50%.
raheem kassam
Because he's going under.
steve bannon
They also don't want to talk, all they want to talk about is Liz Cheney and the Civil War and the Republican Party.
They've never paid attention to the Republican Party, but now Liz Cheney's Joan of Arc, right?
Because they want to avoid all the issues, and this is why you think he went to the mass.
They're forced into this, they've got to do something, right?
raheem kassam
Got to do something, got to have something.
We have it up on screen there, along with my reply to his tweet, which reads simply, no.
steve bannon
Rahim voted.
Let me just read, by the way, Donald Trump, right when we finished that segment, the 45th President of the United States came out from this desk of Donald Trump, can't imagine Republican House members would go with Chip Roy.
He has not done a great job and will probably be successfully primaried in his own district.
I support Elise by far over Chip.
That's a quote from the 45th President of the United States.
Rahim, I asked you this this morning.
And it seems even more relevant today, as you've seen, he came out on the gas situation.
And once again, they've stumbled so much on the messaging and the actions related to both whatever happened with the gas pipeline.
Right.
What's ever happened with this vaccine distribution, the messaging.
And look, we represent a group that wants to understand exactly what the vaccine is and why they should take it and why they need to take it.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think the New York Yankees and the New York Post is just reporting Is it five or six, both coaches and players, of the Yankees, and I don't want to, have tested positive after being fully vaccinated?
The double shot vaccination?
I'll find you an exact number.
I think the Yankees are reporting guys got vaccinated and now they've come out.
People, and this is not, the anti-vax crowd is never going to take it, but that's section.
raheem kassam
Seven.
steve bannon
Seven Yankees, coaches and players, have tested positive after being vaccinated.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
Hey, just saying.
New York Post.
Today, once again, the CDC director came up.
What has changed, Rahim, from the day before?
They talk about science-based and evidence-based and data-based, and that messaging has been so bad, and then all of a sudden they're going to jump forward
And say, okay, hey, upon further review, you get a vaccine, you're eligible for the $1,000,000 drawing in Ohio, you're eligible for the $100 bond in West Virginia, you're, the Grateful Dead, the Grateful Dead, by the way, it's not the Grateful Dead without Jerry Garcia, the Grateful Dead announces their, Dead and Company, announces their schedule, you have to be vaccinated
All the guys doing LSD at the electric Kool-Aid acid test back in the 60s are rolling over in their graves thinking that they're buying into big farmers probably sponsoring the tour, right?
They're so commercial now.
But these are forcing functions.
They can't sell this thing.
In fact, not only can't they sell it, they can't give it away.
You don't need bonds.
You need to come to the American people.
Somebody besides Fauci and the police, whoever this person is at CDC, right?
You have to get them out and have to come forward and just make the case.
Here's what went into it.
Here's what the testing was.
Here's what the results are.
Here's what it does for you.
Here's what the gene therapy thing is.
All of that.
Explain it and then let people make up their minds.
Correct, Rahim?
raheem kassam
I hear that Pfizer are putting an H in their name so that they can tour with fish.
steve bannon
I guess I deserve that one.
Was that good?
Bringing up the dead.
The dead has not been the dead since Jerry Garcia died.
Okay.
But this shows you the radical streams are going through.
raheem kassam
Well, do you know what, though?
You asked the question, what's changed?
Actually, a lot has changed.
Like, a lot has changed in the world in the last 48 hours that ultimately has required Biden to... Okay, yes, your theory's correct.
steve bannon
They're doing it for political necessity.
I'm saying what's changed in CDC's data?
What new data did they get in the last 24 hours that now you can take the mask off everywhere?
raheem kassam
Let me put it this way.
The Biden regime wants you vaccinated not to save your life but to save Joe's political life.
steve bannon
Amen.
Very powerful.
Real quickly, before we jump to break, we're going to talk cryptocurrency with Mark Olektovic when we return.
And I know Rahim's been a guy early in crypto, about how it's going to change your life, right?
We've got a lot to go through today.
But maybe I'll hold this to after the break.
I think what's stunning is they paid a bribe.
They paid off the hackers.
What is the American saying on the Barbary Pirates?
What, millions for defense, not one cent for tribute?
The history of this country, we don't do that.
How did that happen?
And what is to be done about it?
You've opened Pandora's box because, hey, the hacking community, and by the way, they're all tied and all associated with governments.
Right?
If these are guys in Russia, you're not freelancing.
You don't have that type of ability to freelance, just like the CCP.
They're all tied in somehow.
Everybody's in the Wu Mao 50 Cent Army.
All these guys are somehow associated with the PLA or state security case.
Short commercial break.
We're going to turn to Mark Leftovic in Canada.
We're going to talk about the new cover of The Economist, GovCoins, digital currencies that will transform finance and transform your personal life.
Next, in The War Room.
unidentified
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steve bannon
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Got a lot tomorrow.
We're going to be going to New Hampshire, all the different places where the We're still grinding on November 3rd, and also a lot more with Colonel Sullen, I hope, on the Wuhan lab and other breaking news coming out of National Pulse in Wuhan, the great team over at National Pulse.
I want to bring in Jeff, Mark Jeftovic now.
You know Mark from bombthorough.com.
He was on a couple of our specials about transhumanism.
He's one of the leading kind of thinkers about that.
He's a forward-edged guy.
The Economist this week, we try to keep you If not years ahead of things, like when we started the pandemic, at least months and months ahead.
We've been talking about crypto for a while.
The economists, and we've said, that's what we put the chart up the other day, when the market capitalization of tradable digital currencies exceeded, this was on May 8th, exceeded the amount of U.S.
currency, dollars, in circulation.
It's 2.5 trillion dollars because we're the prime reserve currency of the world, but basically every transaction's got to be converted into dollars.
That's one of the reasons we can actually run the deficits to run because we can just guys have to buy the bonds, right?
At least up to some certain point, or we can just print money.
Cryptocurrency is now over 2.5 trillion, and this is just over the last couple of years, 2.5 trillion in circulation.
The Economist has the cover story this week called GovCoins.
Digital currencies that will transform finance.
When they say transform finance, they mean transform your personal life.
Rahim, there's actually been, from Saturday Night Live, Tesla, he was on, Elon Musk was on, kidding around with his mother.
Dogecoin dropped, I think, 30%.
Musk announced today that Tesla, which was this huge thing a couple of years ago, is not going to take Bitcoin because Bitcoin takes more energy.
Digital currency is in everybody's life.
I know you've been an investor in it for a while.
Thoughts, observations, how important is this going to be into the deplorable's lives?
raheem kassam
Well look, I wouldn't class myself as an investor.
I'm a dabbler, right?
Day trader.
No, I wouldn't even say that.
I've looked at these things, I've got into a few of them early on in some cases, but I think my experience with this has been many people's experiences with it, which is that You know, you kind of put in what you can afford to lose.
You know, it goes up drastically and you get very excited and then it falls by 15%.
And a lot of the fluctuations appear to be based on the whims of a few individuals.
Elon Musk being one of those people.
And you know, here's...
Almost kind of self-deprecating mockery of Dogecoin on SNL.
Firstly, I think everybody has to understand.
I mean, I bought Dogecoin.
I bought a very small number of Dogecoin when it was like 0.004, right?
And I just said to myself, well, this will be fun.
This will be silly.
You know, let's see what happens.
Within about two days I had made like $4,000.
And then of course you come crashing back down to earth.
And it's worth just a little bit more than you ever put into it.
Because you're taking things out, and you're putting things in, and you're trying to catch knives as they fall.
Unless you can stick your face in front of a monitor for 24 hours a day, and you know the capricious behavior of these billionaires, then you're never going to really be secure in these things.
Now, Musk has now come out and said, it's like somebody just told him that, hey, Bitcoin is mined, dude, and mining takes energy, dude, and energy comes from coal, and coal's bad.
How is he just finding this out?
steve bannon
You could say a lot of things about Elon, but he is one of the best engineering minds in the world.
I want to turn now to Mark Jephtavik.
Mark, to answer Rahim's question, you're actually going to spend a lot more time in this area, and we'll have some announcements next week about that.
But is Rahim right?
Is this going to take a bigger and bigger role in people's personal finances?
And is it going to take a bigger, bigger role in countries' finances and companies' finances?
mark jeftovic
Absolutely.
I think the battle... Oh, thanks for having me on again, by the way.
But the way I look at the future is that everything is headed For a great bifurcation of sorts, almost like there was an early Bitcoin advocate still around, of course, Max Keiser.
He coined the phrase interest rate apartheid and how it defined the current monetary system we're under.
And that means hedge funds and investment bankers can borrow money for zero percent from the Fed window.
But you and I have to pay 22 percent on our.
On our credit cards, that's interest rate apartheid.
Well, we're heading into a new digital world.
Cash is going by the wayside and there's going to be cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin and Ethereum and serious cryptos like that.
And we'll talk about the difference between that and what was on the cover of The Economist magazine, the GovCoin.
And that's a completely different track.
And while the government is trying to sell this to the public as these are going to be stable digital currencies that don't have the volatility of Bitcoin, they don't have the murkier connotations of Bitcoin, it's really a completely different financial track.
And for citizens, for people who want to take control of their wealth and be in charge of their own lives, there's really Uh, an important choice in front of them of which direction are you gonna go to be on the right side of what I'm calling digital currency apartheid.
steve bannon
Before we get to that, though, a very wise individual has reminded me of, I think it was back in 1637, the Tulip Craze.
They had that great book, The Madness of Crowds, where it talked about hysteria and delusions.
Is this just another Tulip Craze?
When you see people – I know somebody the other day that put in $50 into Dogecoin and cashed out at $5,000, and they paid off their credit card bill.
But now she's addicted, right?
She's going to get this, and she took a little of the $5,000, paid off credit cards for half, she got the other half, and she's gambling.
Is this just the tulips of 1637, or what's the reality in the apartheid between these currencies that are not government-backed?
mark jeftovic
Well, it's not tulips.
That's one of the worst analogies I hear about Bitcoin and Ethereum, and it makes me crazy when I hear the tulip mania analogy.
And it would probably take me too much time to go into explaining why that's such a terrible analogy for this sort of thing.
steve bannon
Give me the 60 second version.
mark jeftovic
Tulips were a kind of NFT of their day.
They were non-fungible tokens of their day.
So each tulip was supposedly unique and valuable unto itself.
Whereas we're talking about a currency revolution today.
The more apt analogy I find today with cryptocurrencies is their forms of not guilt and not guilt is a German expression that came into being during the Weimar hyperinflation and it was a phrase that meant emergency money and in every
Hyperinflationary or high inflationary episode throughout history different things come forward to become the not guilt in in Zimbabwe it was prepaid fuel cards or prepaid phone cards from other countries from neighboring countries what we're having today is every fiat currency in the world is racing to the bottom trying to see who can debase itself the fastest Who can inflate away its debts the fastest?
Who can steal purchasing power from its citizens the fastest?
And so, cryptocurrency is emerging out of that, not as tulip mania, but as a not guilt.
It's an emergency money.
Now, it might not be the digital money we end up with in a hundred years, but it's going to get the job done now.
And because of the way it's cryptographically secured, it's better than anything a central government is going to come out with, because I think The central bank digital currencies are going to be specifically constructed to preclude savings and wealth, building wealth, whereas cryptocurrencies, you actually have a money that increases its purchasing power over time.
How crazy is that?
Imagine you're earning a living and you're stacking some money away, and that money is becoming more valuable over time, not less valuable over time.
steve bannon
Is the Biden administration's $5.5 trillion budget this year, the $1.9 trillion COVID bill, they're talking the $2 trillion family bill, the $2 trillion infrastructure bill.
Is that exacerbating this move to cryptocurrencies, you think, both from the government and both from the private side of crypto?
mark jeftovic
Yeah, it's not helping, that's for sure.
And the one thing that you've seen happen in this latest cycle
Bitcoin the Bitcoin bull cycle that started about a year ago is an institutional move into Bitcoin last time when the cycle sort of topped out in 2017 it was it was still a curiosity and when people were buying Bitcoin that would be a story unto itself now the story is Paul Tudor Jones you know large companies are putting Bitcoin on their balance sheets
You got guys like Musk who are flip-flopping on it, and that's a whole different story.
steve bannon
Peter Thiel and Alan Howard, two of the smartest guys around, just announced a $10 billion crypto exchange yesterday, right?
mark jeftovic
That's right, yeah.
steve bannon
These are serious people.
So you're saying serious institutional monies coming in this, it's just not a bunch of buccaneers and a bunch of hackers that this is getting?
unidentified
Correct.
steve bannon
What would be your guidance to people?
unidentified
You know, Rahim just announced, I think, Coinbase is now... Coinbase has announced that it will put Dogecoin on the platform in a few weeks, I think, yeah.
steve bannon
I know, Mark, we'll have you back... Go ahead.
No, go ahead, sir.
mark jeftovic
Oh, I was just going to say, Coinbase, I mean, for them, they're going to make all of their money on transaction fees, so it's not going to hurt them to have Doge on the platform.
Doge is a bit, I think even, even serious crypto people think Doge is a kind of a, you know, a bit of a joke and a meme.
I mean, my company, my main business announced we started taking Dogecoin three weeks ago as a joke.
We got a lot of social media lols on it, but we've had one Doge payment in three weeks, and that was just one of our customers kind of messing with their heads.
steve bannon
Hang on, we've only got a couple of minutes.
I know we've had you on for Transhumanism and people loved when you were on.
I know you're making a pretty big pivot.
The book you were going to work on, you're putting aside, you've got a lot.
You're going to focus on crypto.
We're going to have you back next week to talk about a bunch of developments.
But just for our audience.
For them to get smart, because what we try to do is teach them nomenclature, then process, critical path, statics and dynamics of industries, so they can get a feel for it in their own mental map.
How would you tell people that just heard about this and know nothing about it?
Understand, ladies and gentlemen, it's going to become an important part of your life because the governments are going to, you know, the Bank of China is going to do their own, the Federal Reserve is going to get in here, the European Central Bank, Bank of Tokyo, all of it, okay?
Bank of England.
So you're going to have to learn something about this.
How would you recommend, Mark, that people start to get knowledgeable about this whole idea of crypto?
mark jeftovic
Back in 2017, at the risk of talking my own book, I wrote a couple of pieces, what Bitcoin is and what Bitcoin isn't.
That's on the front page of bombthrower.com, if you go there.
I wrote a manifesto that you can also get on that site, bombthrower.com slash crypto.
But there's another site called Bitcoin Audible.
And Guy Swann, what he does is he takes The best Bitcoin literature out there, and he makes an audio version of it.
I would go to that site, I would listen to everything he's put out, or I would go read the print versions of the ones that he's putting out because it's a great education.
Sites like Coindesk, there's a show on there called Breakdown by NLW that's a great overview of what's happening in the industry today because of Bitcoin driving these changes.
I mean, that's a lot to start with right there, but that's where you can start to get up and running fast.
steve bannon
We like immersion.
We're going to have you back on next week.
How do people get to you on social media?
How do they follow you during the day, sir?
mark jeftovic
Social media, Stunt Pope on Twitter, BombThrower.com is the main blog, free mailing list there, and my main business is EasyDNS.com.
steve bannon
We're going to have Mark back on next week to talk more crypto.
Sir, thank you very much for joining us.
mark jeftovic
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
A very smart guy.
This is what we did on Pandemic when we first started on Pandemic.
We're going to get deep into, we're already into transhumanism, but we're going to get deep into crypto so you understand everything about it can make your own decisions.
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short commercial break back with Rahim's assessment of where we are as a nation next.
War Room pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, it's hard to shock me.
It's hard to shock me how the city rolls.
But Raheem just gave me an, oh by the way, bombshell right before we get to it.
The commencement at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, if you're in the South, from the South, it's one of the great institutions of learning and revered by all Southerners.
And look, we can't stand the basketball team, right?
The way they lauded over how great they are.
They've got a problem.
University of Texas has a problem.
We had Colonel Sellin on today.
Lawrence Sellin is a guy, he will get into the weeds and get you some receipts, okay?
University of Texas at Galveston has a big problem.
Regarding Fauci in the Wuhan lab and Chinese Communist Party, PLA trained people that are either associated with or somehow hanging out with the PLA that are in their university working on these projects, right?
You just told me, informed me, that the University of North Carolina, which has this guy Ralph Baric, who was all giving these interviews, and he was all this big shot at the beginning of the pandemic when we first started, and then went total radio silence in about May.
Because I said, I'm sure somebody in Carolina would go, hey, hang on for a second.
This gain-of-function experimentation we're doing.
Baric is the guy, is one of the guys that the Obama National Security Council 14 shut down the whole thing.
Because of what Barrick was doing at North Carolina, of being too dangerous.
And Raheem, correct me if I'm wrong, did you just tell me before you came back on here that the commencement address at the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill, that Tony Fauci has been invited to go down there?
Is he giving it, or going to be on the stage, or what's happening?
raheem kassam
That is exactly what it looks like.
We have reported this afternoon that Dr. Anthony Fauci has been announced as the commencement address speaker at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
steve bannon
You're playing with Fire Chapel Hill because you're up to your neck in exactly what went on in the Wuhan lab, gain-of-function experimentations, money you've been taking, playing footsie with Peter Daszak in the Echo Health Alliance.
Barrick's got a lot to respond to, and the University of North Carolina and its Board of Trustees are going to have a lot to respond to.
And to think, and given all of this, And Fauci's lies and misrepresentations, and that's what they are, lies and misrepresentations.
You have the audacity to invite this guy down to give your commencement address?
This is just, if you're going to thumb your nose at it, hey, game on.
Game on.
Because you guys are up to your neck in this, and it is disgusting and revolting what you've allowed to go on.
raheem kassam
So, I actually think this is a full-blown heckle.
unidentified
Yes, it is.
steve bannon
Why do you think I'm worked up?
raheem kassam
No, no, I mean, because I don't know that this was planned before that Rand Paul exchange, and it's happening this weekend.
steve bannon
It was definitely planned, but it wasn't announced.
You think it was on the spur of the moment?
It might be a heckle.
raheem kassam
I think it may be a... Is it Saturday?
Yeah, it's this weekend.
steve bannon
We may have to go, we may have to have live coverage.
We had to set somebody down.
This is, this is disgusting.
Well, so, so, caveat.
Yes?
raheem kassam
It's, it's live, it's streamed.
He's not going there.
steve bannon
Didn't they get the President's mask mandate?
Aren't you all vaccinated, down to care?
raheem kassam
Aren't all the globalists at universities... But this is why I think it's not planned.
This is why I think they wrote in after the Rand Paul exchange and have said, oh, you know what?
He's heckling us.
Let's have Fauci here.
steve bannon
Oh, we've got to call in the Calvary and let's have a united front.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Okay.
Barrick in North Carolina.
The University of Chapel Hill at North Carolina.
And we're going to get to the bottom of all of it.
Why did the bot... Colonel Sullen said today, one of the problems we've had is this kind of bifurcation, that the National Institute of Health has really never had a national security overlay to it.
However...
They're up to their neck, and gain-of-function is just a fancy scientific term for weaponizations of these already deadly viruses, right?
Weaponization of these already deadly viruses, and they make the excuse, oh, we're trying to make sure we're prepared, you know, they can't get the SARS-1 done, they can't get the MERS done, but we want to be prepared in case all these megaviruses, they're weaponizing these viruses in dangerous situations with unqualified people.
Hey, it wasn't Trump, it's Obama's National Security Council dropped the hammer on this and said, We've got to slow down here, and part of that was because of Barrick, okay?
Now you've got University of Texas at Galveston, which has essentially the DOD's Biomedical Center, right?
And the Biomedical Center, guess what, is also to make sure we can protect ourselves against biological weapons.
Now where would they be coming from?
Maybe the CCP, who's lied about, remember they signed the Bioweapons Treaty late.
This is Deng Xiaoping to come over here when Carter actually recognized them as a legitimate government, which they weren't.
The deal was they had to sign the treaty.
They signed it years late.
Every time we've done WTO, Most Favored Nations, every time they got the Wuhan lab, every time we've done something for them, they have to come clean.
Guess what?
They still have their bioweapons program.
unidentified
Oops.
steve bannon
Wasn't that?
Didn't we shut that down?
I thought we shut that down back in the 80s.
No, guess not.
These guys have had a bioweapons program.
Remember, we first started the broadcast.
The female major general that went from Beijing to Wuhan when the thing was out of control, she's the head of the bioweapons program for the PLA.
She went and took charge.
She was the commissar that went and took charge of Wuhan.
She's the one that was nailing people shut.
Remember the doors they were shutting people down?
They built those field hospitals?
That was her!
She's a bioweapons program.
They're active in this.
University of Texas at Galveston is active in that.
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill is active in that.
And there's Ralph Baric.
And now they're going to have Fauci as their commencement address?
raheem kassam
Yeah, look, there's a lot going on here.
We're also unpacking some of the meetings that took place back in 2017.
Mike McCormick's going through the White House visitor logs.
And we're looking at when Klain met with Fauci and the team, with Obama in the room.
And we think that there is a pivotal moment here about all of this.
And it was right before a China trip as well, a top China trip.
So we're working on a lot of information.
If I go disappearing, you know why.
It will all come out.
It will all come out.
You know, it may take us some time, but we're getting details now.
I mean, I've seen the visitor logs at this point, so I know we're chasing something that's real.
steve bannon
So you have Natalie Winters, your investigative reporter, plus Mike McCormick, who knows the Biden apparatus in the White House.
He was there for, what, 10 years?
He knows it better than anybody.
You have both of those on right now, going through details of what meetings took place and when they took place.
raheem kassam
Yeah, and who was in them.
You know, it's going to be very difficult to prove what was discussed, but you can put a lot of context around, you know, hey, this is two days before this big China trip, and so we're working through all of that right now.
Honestly, it's all Mike.
It's all Mike is leading on this right now, so I don't want to take any credit from Mike McCormick on this.
You know, the other part of it, we're not even going to get to the political story.
steve bannon
You'll be back tomorrow, but are you going to have a podcast tomorrow afternoon?
raheem kassam
Yeah.
steve bannon
People want to know.
We're gonna see you tomorrow at 10 a.m.
More explosive happenings in Arizona.
Watch out.
They got... Listen, why did they put the letter out last night?
They put the letter out last night to make sure they were ahead of DOJ trying to shut this thing down.
They wanted to make sure they got that information out there.
Those are the heroes out there in the State Senate of Arizona.
See you tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
when we'll be back in the War Room.
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