May 5, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | |
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | |
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I think what I would say about the Oversight Board is, you know, to butcher a quote from Winston Churchill, is that it's not a great system, but it's the best one available to us. | ||
| And here's why I say that. | ||
| It is incongruous to simultaneously argue that Facebook has too much power and too much power over speech, and then at the same time suggest that they should be in the power. | ||
| In fact, Mark Zuckerberg, because as Kara and Stephanie, you both know, he really runs that company. | ||
| Should a loan really be able to dictate whether or not a former president is allowed on such a powerful and influential platform? | ||
| Now, should Facebook then have the power to create its own oversight board that can then, you know, that it effectively doesn't really have to listen to? | ||
| No, it's not ideal, but if you have an inept government that can't get out of its own way, that can't impose that sort of regulation or oversight in and of itself, What are you left with? | ||
| The decision is either Marx or it's 20 rather respectable, smart people from around the world to make this decision. | ||
| It's not perfect, but show me a better system. | ||
| Regulation. | ||
| A better regulation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that's not up to Facebook. | ||
| Yes, no. | ||
| I totally agree. | ||
| That's the real issue here, Dylan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is Stephanie Ruhl heading in the direction of Steve Bannon? | ||
| Make them public utilities and regulate them? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| Monster show today. | ||
| Packed, packed, packed. | ||
| Live from the nation's capital, it's the Wednesday, 5 May, the Year of Our Lord 2021, Cinco de Mayo, on the John Frederick Radio Network, Real America's Voice, Roku, Pluto, in Mandarin, GNews, GTV, simultaneously and through the firewall later. | ||
| Now closing in on 51 million. | ||
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| I want to thank everybody associated with the production of this, folks in Denver, John Frederick's Radio, everybody that helps us get this show up every day. | ||
| We've got Joe Allen from The Federalist on the day that they announced that the birth rate is dropped to the lowest in 42 years in the United States of America. | ||
| Joe Allen joins us from The Federalist a little later about transhumanism. | ||
| Amazing article there. | ||
| About maybe why they're not that worried about the drop in birth rates. | ||
| We're going to get to all of that. | ||
| We've got Josh Hawley, Senator Josh Hawley, on the tyranny of big tech on the very day that Facebook dings our beloved 45th President Donald J. Trump. | ||
| We've got Rudy. | ||
| We've got DiPerna up in Michigan. | ||
| I think we're going to get to New Hampshire. | ||
| We've got so much going on, we're going to try to cram it all in. | ||
| And we will get this all in. | ||
| Updates on the big lie, the voter fraud big lie, and also Elise Stefanik, the rise of Elise Stefanik to take on and challenge Liz Cheney. | ||
| I want to first focus on big breaking news right before we came out on Facebook. | ||
| deciding to keep Donald Trump Deplatformed on that massive platform whether you like Zuckerberg or not whether you like Facebook or not want to bring in so it since That is a little bit foreign as people realize. I'm not that astute on a social media Although and we know how to you know use it. We don't actually know how it works. I want to bring in Jeff brain The CEO of cloud hub a system that's on fire. It's an alternative of Facebook for the political, right? | ||
| And he's made it available to everybody, but it's really caught some traction here So Jeff explain to me Dylan Byers is you know media guy. I've known Dylan for a decade or so He was a guy that Andrew Breitbart knew very well. | ||
| He sits there and says that this panel, the 20 tyrants, the wise men, the wisest men and women around, that this is an imperfect world, this is close to a perfect system. | ||
| Tell our audience right now what happened, what decision did essentially Jeff Zuckerberg make about Donald Trump and what impact is it going to have? | ||
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Sure. | |
| Well, Facebook decided to keep the president off of their platform. | ||
| They had a panel they assembled to review the situation, and they decided to keep him off the platform. | ||
| Big tech has betrayed the American people once again. | ||
| And anyone that questions whether there's censorship going on on these platforms no longer should question it. | ||
| Big tech has doubled down. | ||
| And keep in mind, this isn't Just Facebook denying the president the right to speak. | ||
| It's denying the people the right to hear our 45th president. | ||
| It's actually outrageous. | ||
| If this had happened to Barack Obama by a conservative platform, everyone would be outraged. | ||
| And that's what they've done to Donald Trump. | ||
| So how have they done it? | ||
| Walk through their explanation about, oh, we'll review it in six months. | ||
| What's this panel? | ||
| Because our audience doesn't keep up with these things on a daily basis. | ||
| But explain the power of what Facebook has, what it can deny a president, what it can really deny about speech. | ||
| And what is this actual review board that they have that he was up before? | ||
| And how can they make a decision that could have this much impact on the American people? | ||
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Well, the panel was set up so that, you know, Mark is not directly responsible for deciding who stays on the platform and who gets silenced. | |
| But when you look at the makeup of the panel, you know, it's a fairly left-leaning panel. | ||
| And I think that leads to some problems. | ||
| CloudHub itself has some free speech attorneys that we look to when we have a question, but they're free speech attorneys and they're on both sides of the aisle. | ||
| I think that's a better setup. | ||
| than having a group that perhaps has a bias going into the situation. | ||
| When you say bias, I know National Pulse, Rahim, who's overworking because of this situation on this very subject, they've got a story up saying they're all far left. | ||
| The panel itself is enormously biased, and I also want to make people understand, the great team at Project Veritas Did an exposé before the CNN exposé, and I keep saying the Project Veritas exposé that they did on Facebook actually has more impact because Facebook is 10x what CNN is. | ||
| They had the senior executive there, and I guess it was a young woman on Tinder they had met, and there's several dates and she recorded him, and he's bragging about At the senior levels, they're openly anti-Trump. | ||
| They openly worked in the system to remove Trump from office. | ||
| He makes no bones about it. | ||
| He talks about how they do that and how they use artificial intelligence to do it. | ||
| So it's not like they're a neutral platform at all. | ||
| They're actually in, and as I said, I was the one that said, hey, the media is the opposition party, not the Democrats. | ||
| The Democrats are a bunch of feckless people running around like Nancy Pelosi and others, but the power and the muscle is the muscle of Wall Street, the muscle of these corporations, and the muscle of these platforms. | ||
| Facebook being a completely progressive, woke, globalist, party of Davos operation. | ||
| And the Project Veritas expose showed that. | ||
| So how do you square that? | ||
| And how do we sit there and have this kind of phony, oh, they got these 20 guys, they have the power. | ||
| Zuckerberg calls the shots, even Dylan Byers over there at MSNBC on Stephanie Ruhle this morning said that. | ||
| So why are we allowing this to happen? | ||
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Well, we're not allowing it to happen. | |
| That's why people like me create CloudHub, right? | ||
| Mainstream social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter are really now beyond the point of redemption. | ||
| You know, we can't keep hoping that one day they're going to get it right, that they're going to change their ways. | ||
| We've seen the pattern, right? | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| Laura Luma, they went after Candace Owens, but that didn't work. | ||
| But, you know, originally they kind of took the position of, oh, that was a mistake or, you know, we're not really doing it. | ||
| But now it's just so blatant that it's obvious to everyone. | ||
| And American people need to migrate off of those platforms onto alternative platforms to make the real statement. | ||
| We don't need to accept it. | ||
| It's completely against the American way. | ||
| Free speech has never been controversial in this country. | ||
| It's what we stand for. | ||
| It's what we fight for. | ||
| It's what we go to war for. | ||
| And yet we have companies in America that are shutting down our right To speak, whether that's about COVID and potential treatments, whether that's what we think happened on November 3rd. | ||
| I want to quote the great Tudor Dixon, who is a star of the channel we're on, The Real American Voice, does a talk show or call-in show later in the day. | ||
| She was on about this very topic. | ||
| A month ago, I think, when the Veritas thing broke and she said, hey, as a young mom, you know, I think with four school age kids, she says, I really couldn't. | ||
| And they were, I think, getting on her on some of the things she was coming out with politically. | ||
| I think about the covid virus and about the big steal and everything like that. | ||
| And she said, hey, if I if I get banned from Facebook, I think she's already been limited so much. | ||
| She said, if I get banned from Facebook, I couldn't be as efficient as a young mom with school-age kids for the dance recitals and the soccer teams and everything like that. | ||
| Facebook is so central now in the civic society of the United States. | ||
| It's not easy to say you can just migrate off. | ||
| That's a nice concept, but that would require now a massive dislocation of people's lives. | ||
| That's why I say they're a public utility. | ||
| Hey, I said this in September after I left the White House. | ||
| I was fighting these guys every day in the White House. | ||
| I'm hardcore. | ||
| I want the digital thing to be under a trust. | ||
| I want you to opt in, consciously opt in. | ||
| I want them to pay you for that, for your digital rights, to monetize your digital rights. | ||
| You generate content every day. | ||
| You will have to pay for these services. | ||
| No more of this phoniness of they take it for free where they just monetize your information. | ||
| You consciously make a decision. | ||
| It's in a trust, but it's regulated like the phone company. | ||
| It's a regulated industry, so I'm hardcore in this. | ||
| I don't care if their stocks drop three quarters of their value. | ||
| I could care less, and I could care less if Zuckerberg is only worth $10 billion. | ||
| These guys are out of control. | ||
| So how can you say people can just migrate? | ||
| I love CloudHub, and we're going to talk about what you guys are doing, but isn't that just massively impractical for this point in time? | ||
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Well, ask MySpace, right? | |
| At one point, MySpace was the major factor, but that's no longer around. | ||
| We've seen major companies come and go, and I do not think that Facebook is beyond being replaced. | ||
| I think it'll take time, but I think alternatives are the answer. | ||
| I actually, you know, you and I disagree, perhaps, on that. | ||
| I think there are certainly restrictions that should be placed on companies that have more than, let's say, 30% of the market. | ||
| When a social media platform has it, there should be ways for users to appeal decisions to a court, have an administrative process. | ||
| I'm not so sure I agree that government should take over private companies. | ||
| And at what point do they take over that private company? | ||
| So, I think there are other alternatives that we can put in place to protect the people who use these platforms, but ultimately, if you disagree with their policy as how they operate, then you walk. | ||
| I'm not saying take over. | ||
| I want it like the Dominion Power in Virginia. | ||
| I want it a regulated company, right? | ||
| With a certain rate of return. | ||
| It gets a certain regulated rate of return. | ||
| You want to break these guys? | ||
| Let's break them. | ||
| Otherwise, it's all happy talk. | ||
| We're going to have Josh Hawley on later, we'll get into it with Josh, but okay, real quickly, tell us about, I know you're making great strides at CloudHub, tell us about CloudHub, how do people get on it, what do you got planned, and why they should come to your site? | ||
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Well, CloudHub is a different kind of social media platform. | |
| We're all about doing. | ||
| When you talk about the president, CloudHub is a perfect platform for the president because we are about taking action. | ||
| He could come on to CloudHub and have his voice and mobilize his base. | ||
| And that's what is important. | ||
| There's too many challenges to our society and our country right now. | ||
| We don't have a lot of time to work with. | ||
| It's not about building a new platform. | ||
| There are good platforms out there. | ||
| I think CloudHub is a perfect platform for the president to come to and be able to inspire and mobilize his voice with his base, whether that's towards an election or that's towards policy or legislation there. | ||
| You know, we have an election next year. | ||
| There's a lot to happen very quickly. | ||
| And we're CloudHub is actually the most reliable alternative available right now. | ||
| Most people think we will be the next Facebook. | ||
| Okay, and how do people get there? | ||
| We gotta bounce. | ||
| Tell people how they get on, how they find you. | ||
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Very quickly, go to www.cloudhub.com and it's easy to sign up. | |
| Jeff Brain, thank you. | ||
| Thank you for being an entrepreneur. | ||
| People ought to understand Brain's on the program. | ||
| He's on point seven days a week, 24 hours a day. | ||
| So Jeff, thank you for everything you're doing for this movement. | ||
| Thank you for what you're doing for the country, because it's fantastic. | ||
| And this is the backbone of what we are, the working class people, middle class people, and entrepreneurs leading the way to break the corporatist. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Okay, listen, can we get Raheem, we got Raheem, we put Raheem to work this morning, understanding that this is going to be big breaking news. | ||
| National Pulse is already up with a big story. | ||
| Raheem, I tell you what, we've got only a couple of seconds left here. | ||
| If I can get Raheem on. | ||
| Raheem? | ||
| Hey, Raheem, do we have Raheem? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey, you got about 20 seconds. | ||
| Tee us up for over the break. | ||
| What are you going to tell us about what went on this morning? | ||
| I'll tell you exactly who serves on Facebook's oversight board. | ||
| 95% of them, on the record, as being Never Trumpers. | ||
| This is why National Pulse is necessary and why you gotta go read it every morning. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Our own Raheem Kassam will join us. | ||
| And Rudy Giuliani next. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, we're going to bring in our own Raheem Kassam. | ||
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| I think we'll put up later, you know, the Democratic Party, New York Post reporting that the Democratic National Committee has started a, besides President Trump, they've started another 20 people. | ||
| They've assigned, they've hired, I guess, an oppo company to start doing opposition research. | ||
| That's where they get down to do the, they're going to hammer somebody. | ||
| They've got a list of 20. | ||
| And guess who's on the list? | ||
| Mike Lindell. | ||
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Okay? | |
| You're hearing that from the war room. | ||
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| Action. | ||
| Rahim Kassam. | ||
| Speaking of action. | ||
| And Rahim's over at the National Pulse headquarters grinding away. | ||
| And the reason was, Rahim, this is a big enough story this morning. | ||
| Put in perspective, I want your analysis of the panel, but really what did Zuckerberg tell the President of the United States today? | ||
| I can't say it on a family-friendly show. | ||
| Look, the Facebook Oversight Board, let's go to this breaking story. | ||
| Um, nobody should be surprised. | ||
| I think few people who are paying real attention to how this all works are surprised. | ||
| But you're getting the, you know, breaking news headlines, the chyron behind you on CNN, Steve. | ||
| You know, wow, the Facebook Oversight Board has even upheld the Trump ban. | ||
| The Facebook Oversight Board was conceived by lawyer Noah Feldman, law professor Noah Feldman, who actually served on the Democrat impeachment proceedings against President Trump. | ||
| That was where that whole thing came from. | ||
| You can still find this where Felben says, I dreamt up the idea of a Facebook Supreme Court at the end of January, 2018, and I sent a one pager describing it to Sheryl Sandberg, who said, let me send it to Mark. | ||
| Mark was intrigued and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then they come up with this board. | ||
| Right, so last summer, Steve, we went through and looked at who serves on this board. | ||
| And now, funnily enough, she doesn't serve on it anymore, but another impeachment Democrat was on the Facebook oversight board, Pamela Carlin. | ||
| Pamela Carlin is, of course, now in the Biden administration, or regime, as I like to say. | ||
| But so take Pamela Carlin out of it for a second. | ||
| You've already got two Trump impeachment people who are involved in this. | ||
| Let's look at the other people who are involved. | ||
| Hold on, slow down for a second. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| Not one part of the media has brought up what Rahim Ghassan National Polls in the War Room is. | ||
| How can you have people on the panel who didn't recuse themselves, who are part of the impeachment apparatus against Donald J. Trump? | ||
| This is obscene. | ||
| This is obscenity. | ||
| They take us for fools and idiots, sir? | ||
| Well, in a lot of cases we are fools and idiots. | ||
| We are fools and idiots who, you know, even conservative media doesn't cover this stuff. | ||
| You will see breaking news stories from, quote, conservative news sites today that won't tell you how the board was conceived and that won't tell you who sits on the board. | ||
| They will do the exact same thing as the Associated Press and Reuters and all that and just tell you, hey, here's Facebook Oversight Board's decision. | ||
| Oversight Board. | ||
| I mean, this is Facebook policing Facebook and declaring Facebook innocent, right, is what's going on here. | ||
| In fact, the decision was to kick it back to Facebook. | ||
| So the Facebook... I can't even do this with a straight face. | ||
| Facebook effectively refers itself to its own internal oversight board. | ||
| Its own internal oversight board that says, hey, we're upholding this thing, but we're also going to send it back to corporate Facebook to look at it again. | ||
| You've got another six months to look at it. | ||
| OK, this is the crazy, ludicrous situation that we live in now. | ||
| And let's look at a couple of people who are on this board. | ||
| Open Society Initiative Managers, Digital Rights Foundation, Feminist for, it doesn't say women, it says WOMXN, which is the new woke way of writing women. | ||
| Professors at the Central European University. | ||
| I mean, these are all, not to sound like a crazy right-wing conspiracy theorist, Hold it, hold it, hold it. | ||
| European Central University that Orban threw out of Hungary, right? | ||
| Because it's a Soros-backed anti-sovereignty movement is what it is, right? | ||
| It wants to destroy the very concept of the nation-state. | ||
| Am I correct there, sir? | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| Look, we've gone not just through who these people are and where they serve, but we've actually cross-referenced the words Trump with their public statements, appearances on podcasts, so on and so forth. | ||
| I mean, there are people on the Facebook Oversight Board who have openly fantasized about the execution of President Trump. | ||
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There are people on the Facebook Oversight Board... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on, slow down. | |
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| That's another bombshell. | ||
| Walk me through that. | ||
| I'm going to bring it up for you here. | ||
| I'll bring up for you the exact name. | ||
| Is this about the play Julius Caesar that was at the Open Air Theater in New York, where some of these intellectuals are sitting there going, because they had a Trump look-alike, that when Caesar got executed, they were all sitting there going, yeah, this is great, we ought to do this. | ||
| Is that what they're talking about, or is it something even more nefarious? | ||
| That was the exact same time, and it was to do with that and the Kathy Griffin beheading video that was held up, and people on the Facebook oversight board have shared a number of these things in the past. | ||
| They have called President Trump some of the worst things you could possibly imagine. | ||
| And let me bring up number 13, just number 13 on the National Pulse list here, right, is Jamal Green, professor at Columbia Law School. | ||
| Jamal Green is a former aide to Kamala Harris, right? | ||
| You can't make this up. | ||
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But hang on, but here's the point, but here's the point. | |
| They don't care. | ||
| They don't care if conservative media reports, I mean, yes, they don't like National Pulse doing it and War Room doing it, getting the posse all worked up, they're all foaming, you know, they're going to have a third cup of coffee now, get all jacked up and start, they're screaming at the TV or at the radio, whatever they're watching this on, or in the podcast later. | ||
| They don't care, because they say, we got the power, we just use it as a false front. | ||
| This is like in the Soviet Union, they have all these, like, phony committees. | ||
| At the end of the day, they don't care, they don't care if you're moaning about it, bitching and moaning about it, they could care less. | ||
| That's the point, right? | ||
| This is all a charade. | ||
| They don't really care. | ||
| They'll put up a charade. | ||
| This is a Potemkin village, right? | ||
| A unit to look at fairness and that nobody reports it. | ||
| But even if you do report it, they could care less, right? | ||
| As long as you stay on the service and use their service. | ||
| Is that the point? | ||
| So there's a couple of parts to this, and I went through Senator Hawley's book yesterday, and he gets into how Facebook has actually been running experiments on people in the Western world, and I think this is a fascinating topic about how they actually abuse their power. | ||
| But don't be under any misconceptions that these people don't like to be named by critics. | ||
| They're very glass-jawed about it. | ||
| They don't like their names being out there. | ||
| They certainly don't like ordinary people contacting them to let them politely know their beliefs and what they think about the survey board. | ||
| They don't like people making them famous, is what you're saying. | ||
| Yeah, they don't look, they don't like scrutiny because they know under scrutiny that their raison d'etre falls apart. | ||
| If you look at this list of people, and we have it up, we have it up at the polls, we had it up last summer, we've put it back up again on the front page today, you'll see people, look, it's, we calculated it, it's 95% of, 95% of Facebook's oversight board have made on the record hateful statements about Donald Trump and his base. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then three quarters of these people are not even American citizens. | ||
| They have nothing to do with the United States of America. | ||
| They have nothing, no business telling a supposedly American company or America-based company and a company that hides behind American legislation in the form of Section 230 and other things how to behave. | ||
| These are the things that should inform people's decisions to get away from these platforms, to delete their accounts. | ||
| There's never going to be a situation where it gets better unless that happens. | ||
| There's never going to be a situation where Facebook turns around and decides, oh, we'll break up, we'll sell Instagram to somebody, and we'll give you data sovereignty, and we'll let you decide how your data is used. | ||
| They will never, ever do that. | ||
| You have to just shut it down. | ||
| One last thing, we're going to get Rudy on here in a second. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani is going to join us, but I've got to ask you. | ||
| Also, they seem to have forgotten James O'Keefe's amazing expose of senior executives on the Project Veritas hit, what, six weeks ago? | ||
| Just from the audience, the guy there said, hey, we openly at the highest levels, we're anti-Trump. | ||
| We're trying to destroy Trump and his movement. | ||
| And that guy's bragging. | ||
| Obviously, there's a woman there he's trying to impress, but he's bragging about how they all think as one. | ||
| And they're all veritably anti-Trump, anti-Trump movement, anti-populist. | ||
| The guy couldn't be blunter. | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
| The amazing thing about that as well is that he openly declared that Facebook was way too big, way too powerful, and should be broken up. | ||
| Now, these people will never, of course, say that when they are on the record, but they will say it when there's a hidden camera pointed at them. | ||
| That is a fact, that is a truth, and that's what Hawley's book gets to, by the way, is that there is no dealing with this from a, hey, please and thank you, may we have our free speech and our rights. | ||
| These things have to be bust apart with a big sledgehammer. | ||
| Rahim Ghassan, thank you very much. | ||
| Your story's already up in the National Pulse. | ||
| Your story's already up in the National Pulse. | ||
| I want to make sure... I tell you what, can we keep Rahim... let's keep Rahim over. | ||
| Rahim, could you stay over? | ||
| I've got to get to Liz Cheney of it all. | ||
| Rudy, you're having technical problems with, and so I want to keep you on. | ||
| I've got to get your thoughts on this Liz Cheney situation. | ||
| We're going to take a break. | ||
| And by the way, is the story up in National Pulse right now? | ||
| Can you put it in the live chat? | ||
| Does the CCP own his building? | ||
| Real quickly, before we get to the, because we're gonna play a cold open when we get back. | ||
| What is your story yesterday, you got about 30 seconds, about the Frank Luntz situation. | ||
| Does the CCP own his building? | ||
| Is that where I'm to take it from Mao Tse-tung's grandson? | ||
| Well, the company that actually owns the building and leases to Frank Luntz, who then in turn leases to Kevin McCarthy, yet it is in fact run by the grandson of Mao Tse-tung. | ||
| You can't make it up. | ||
| You can't make this stuff up. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to turn with our own Raheem Kassam. | ||
| We're going to be talking about, by the way, we've got a lot to do on election fraud today. | ||
| We're going to take you around the country, get you into the details, make sure you stay there, get another cup of coffee, another espresso, double espresso maybe. | ||
| We're also going to talk about the drop, dramatic drop in American birth rates. | ||
| Signal, not noise. | ||
| And Liz Cheney, next in The War Room. | ||
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| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| But I assume that would probably take place. | ||
| There's no concern about how she voted on impeachment. | ||
| That decision has been made. | ||
| I have heard from members concerned about her ability to carry out the job as conference chair, to carry out the message. | ||
| I haven't heard members concerned about her vote on impeachment. | ||
| It's more concerned about the job ability to do and what's our best step forward that we can all work together instead of attacking one another. | ||
| Sticking a different tune on the air, a spokesperson for Congresswoman Cheney put out a statement after McCarthy's interview saying, quote, this is about whether the Republican Party is going to perpetuate lies about the 2020 election and attempt to whitewash what happened on January 6th. | ||
| Liz will not do that. | ||
| That is the issue, Joe. | ||
| So no change from Congresswoman Cheney and her position about all of this. | ||
| She's increasingly on an island here. | ||
| It looks like if you talk to people behind the scenes, she is going to be pushed out of that job as leadership chair in the Republican Party because she made the statement again that the election of 2020 was not stolen. | ||
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Well, you know, Mika, it's sort of the Obi-Wan Kenobi principle. | |
| Strike her down and she'll only become stronger. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Darth, I mean, here you have the Wall Street Journal yesterday in a scathing editorial that we're going to be reading in a little bit saying, GOP leaders should not have to lie about 2020. | ||
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Well, let's read it now. | |
| I mean, they write in part this, Republicans will look foolish or worse to swing voters if they refight 2020 in 2022. | ||
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They can truthfully say that Democrats use Wall Street. | |
| We've got Mika. | ||
| You know that they really want to support conservatives. | ||
| You know they really want it. | ||
| When Morning Joe and Mika are reading the Wall Street Journal editorial page, Joe Scarborough now officially a running dog, now officially a running dog for the Wall Street faction. | ||
| Which the Wall Street Journal is all about. | ||
| The investment banks, the commercial banks, the concentration of wealth on Wall Street. | ||
| That's what they represent. | ||
| All they care about is tax cuts for the wealthy. | ||
| And all they care about is for tax cuts for the wealthy. | ||
| And they care about tax cuts for the wealthy. | ||
| And deregulation. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| I want to bring in now Raheem Kassam. | ||
| This is not about their concept of the big lie or the big steal. | ||
| This is about Liz Cheney really not supporting, it's not even about messaging. | ||
| This is about Liz Cheney not supporting the fundamentals of what this movement's about and how we're going to take over 2022. | ||
| And McCarthy, he's in play because of the lunch thing, right? | ||
| And also because he's feckless, right? | ||
| Won't stand up, has no guts, no brain. | ||
| He's unique. | ||
| No brains and no guts, right? | ||
| Now he's in play. | ||
| That's why he's throwing her under the bus. | ||
| Mr. Rahim Ghassan, your thoughts, your ideas. | ||
| Well, my instinct is telling me that actually what Liz Cheney is now doing is sticking her oar in to everything in order to keep the party divided, in order to keep the movement getting negative headlines in the press. | ||
| That is a tactic that you would deploy if your corporate donors told you, hey, we can't afford to lose the House in 2022. | ||
| We can't afford for President Trump to have a chance in 2024. | ||
| And so Liz Cheney's job, as far as these people are concerned now, is to just keep as many negative headlines in the press about the conservative movement, not just the MAGA base, but about the conservative movement writ large as possible. | ||
| She is a she is inside that, as I said during that Hillsdale speech I gave a couple of months ago, she's inside the tent pissing in, right. | ||
| And people often say it's better to have them inside the tent, you know, pissing out. | ||
| But at some point you have to realize that these that the tent walls exist for a reason. | ||
| The tent is too big. | ||
| Liz Cheney doesn't belong in it. | ||
| And she needs to go. | ||
| OK, the Darren Beattie in the crew of Revolver, who are the hardcore of the hardcore, we love them. | ||
| They're all over Elise Stefanik as not being MAGA enough. | ||
| But I think you're seeing the rise of Elise Stefanik. | ||
| And I think Elise Stefanik's right on China. | ||
| I think she's right on a lot of issues. | ||
| Clearly over time she'll grow and become even more MAGA, but she was a fire breather in the impeachment. | ||
| But I think you see Elise Stefanik. | ||
| I believe they're going to move, and it's supposed to be May 12th. | ||
| I think it may even happen sooner. | ||
| What are you hearing over at the porch at Morton's? | ||
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Well, look, a lot of people are skeptical of Elise Stefanik. | |
| I will admit that. | ||
| That skepticism comes from a philosophical and an ideological purity. | ||
| And I am more in favor of that than having kind of a younger version of Liz Cheney. | ||
| So I think Elise Stefanik needs to prove herself. | ||
| She actually needs to come out and say what she now believes because she hasn't always been on board with the MAGA agenda. | ||
| Her voting record has not always been in line with President Trump or what President Trump's voters want. | ||
| But again, we have to be realists about this as well. | ||
| Is there anyone else that can justifiably and reasonably, can we expect them to be able to take that position from Liz Cheney that isn't at least, you know, I like Jim Banks, but I don't think Jim Banks himself is even ready to do this right now. | ||
| I don't think he thinks he's served in the, whatever it's called, the group long enough to be able to do it. | ||
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| He's a good guy. | ||
| Did the anti-CCP thing. | ||
| I don't think he's ready yet. | ||
| Yeah, and I think he probably is telling people that as well. | ||
| I think the realist choice has to be Stefanik at the moment. | ||
| I don't personally love that, but that's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes. | ||
| She's MAGA adjacent, right? | ||
| But we have to work on that. | ||
| But I tell you what, she's smart, she's tough, and she's a fire breather. | ||
| We need all those right now, and we've got to make sure she goes from MAGA adjacent to full embodiment of MAGA in America first. | ||
| Rahim, how do people get to you today, and how do you get the National Pulse on fire, Revolver on fire, Citizens Free Press on fire, Gateway Pundit always on fire, Populous Press on fire, Canon 212, go to them all, check them all out. | ||
| Check them all out, particularly National Pulse. | ||
| How do people get to you, Raheem? | ||
| Look, we've got a couple of new stories up this morning alone. | ||
| It's over at TheNationalPulse.com. | ||
| Specifically, look at this 1619 Project story that we just put up. | ||
| Obviously, the Facebook Oversight Board is a big deal. | ||
| We're going to have more pulls on Noah Feldman and how the Facebook Oversight Board came to be later on in the day as well. | ||
| And of course, if you want to support our work, you can go, it's very simple, FundRealNews.com. | ||
| Okay, Rahim, thanks, and thanks for taking time away today and getting on top of this Facebook thing. | ||
| Okay, now I want to go to another great publication, The Federalist. | ||
| You may not agree with everything that's in there, but it's one of the top publications out there. | ||
| It should be part of your daily reading. | ||
| I want to bring in a great thinker and writer, Joe Allen. | ||
| As you know, we've been on this transhumanism issue for quite a while. | ||
| Joe Allen has written a brilliant piece, and if we can get that up after we introduce Joe, I want to make sure we get it up on the screen and put it into the live chat. | ||
| Everybody's got to read this. | ||
| Joe, and we're kind of cramped for time, I want you to stay over the next segment. | ||
| On a day, and this is why the timing was perfect, the timing is perfect to get Josh Hawley on the day that Facebook says no thanks to President Trump. | ||
| Today, two announcements. | ||
| Number one, the lowest birth rate in the United States of America drops to the lowest level in 42 years. | ||
| Also, I think today is the day that the White House announced they're putting up a special site to really push forward the greatness of artificial intelligence and to really dovetail a report, a report that we think is quite serious. | ||
| They came out with the AI report. | ||
| It's like 800 pages long about a month ago. | ||
| I think we're the only Show to actually go through it, to show that we're falling farther and farther behind the Chinese Communist Party in this. | ||
| But Joe, I want to bring it all back to your article on transhumanism. | ||
| It's absolutely brilliant. | ||
| You cover every major aspect of it. | ||
| Walk us through, first off, how did you get interested in this topic? | ||
| And, you know, it's not something, I go to the Federalists all the time, it was not something I thought I'd see on the Federalists. | ||
| Walk us through what got you interested in it and why, in a busy news day and busy life, we're fighting all these different fronts, you think that this is signal not noise? | ||
| Well, I think that it's really important because this represents a new religious movement that doesn't get a lot of attention, particularly on the right. | ||
| The left has been looking at this for a long time. | ||
| The right, I think, by and large has ignored it because it hasn't been part of our day-to-day lives. | ||
| But you asked why I got interested in it in the beginning. | ||
| I grew up in a very rural area and so I got to see all throughout my childhood and early adulthood and then throughout my life how organic communities are knitted together and maintain their value structure and produce, I think, in my opinion anyway, very healthy and well-adjusted people, even if they appear maybe out of sync with the modern world. | ||
| My first introduction to the notion of transhumanism came through Ray Kurzweil, who is the founder of Singularity University at Google. | ||
| He argued that in the near future... Hang on one second. | ||
| He's the father of this concept of the singularity. | ||
| He's a senior executive at Google. | ||
| He's essentially in charge of all advanced R&D, correct? | ||
| And they're considered the smartest guys on the planet, basically, for applied artificial intelligence. | ||
| I just want to make sure the audience understands this. | ||
| This guy's in your life every day of your life. | ||
| Ray Kurzweil's in your life. | ||
| If you use Google, right, or if you use a search engine, Ray Kurzweil is in your life. | ||
| Is that correct, Joe Allen? | ||
| It most certainly is, but, you know, I think it's really important. | ||
| I've followed his work for 20-some years now, and I don't think that he is an evil person by any stretch. | ||
| I do think that he's an arrogant person, and I suspect that he's deluded about the potentials of technology. | ||
| He's also, you know, as much as he's associated with the singularity, and the singularity being, it's really important to understand, the singularity is this concept that artificial intelligence given sufficient development, will become superhuman in its intelligence, and that eventually it will begin to self-improve. | ||
| And when this happens, human beings will be unable to control it unless the sorts of programming that would keep it in control are already in place to begin with. | ||
| Ray Kurzweil once quipped, uh... when asked if he believed in god he said uh... no i don't believe it got dot exists at least not yet uh... meaning that eventually and in the very near future in in regard to future generations uh... artificial intelligence will either attain superhuman intelligence or at least and i think this is more likely people will come to believe that it has superhuman intelligence and be willing to put their trust in it even more so than we do today | ||
| as you say google all of these other tech companies and most of the you know the the the more advanced devices we use certainly our smartphones certainly apps and certainly the the algorithms they're monitoring our data and analyzing is in creating dossiers all of these are running in through artificial intelligence Now, the National Artificial Intelligence Initiative... Hang on one second, hang on one second. | ||
| We've got to take a break, but I just want to make sure we're contextualizing this and connecting dots. | ||
| If you go back, and I've argued this when it first came out, if you go back and look at the Project Veritas, James O'Keefe's team, incredible hit. | ||
| On the Facebook, which is 10x CNN, although I know people who are excited about CNN are important, but that was noise. | ||
| Signal was a Facebook hit. | ||
| In the Facebook part, what we've talked about today, what the executive said about being anti-Trump and people working against him, all Democrats, that to me was almost noise, not signal. | ||
| The two things he talked about that should send a chill down to the marrow of your bones, ladies and gentlemen, he talked about, number one, artificial intelligence. | ||
| He said, hey, this stuff is so advanced and so scary, it's going to run everything. | ||
| He almost dismissed that. | ||
| We're so into the research of artificial intelligence, and it's so far beyond even our control. | ||
| Just watch out. | ||
| That's number one. | ||
| Number two, he actually said about Zuckerberg and his wife that they spent an inordinate part of their time not running Facebook, but focused on these issues of transhumanism, of eternal life. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| An incredible piece in the Federalist, which is an incredible operation, incredible paper. | ||
| Magazine, site, you gotta go to. | ||
| I want everybody to read it, put it in the live chat. | ||
| I want you to share it, okay? | ||
| We're always putting you ahead of the news. | ||
| Remember, in the Made in China 2025, of the ten industries, advanced chip design, robotics, artificial intelligence, and gene editing, were the top four that they had to dominate. | ||
| Number four, one through four, boom! | ||
| No conspiracies, But there's no coincidences. | ||
| When we return, we're going to talk about the singularity and the rise of a new religion. | ||
| Scientism and its partner, transhumanism. | ||
| Next, in The War Room. | ||
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| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| Okay, whether you think this virus came as part of a bioweapons program of the Chinese Communist Party's PLA division, or if you think it's a total hoax, the one thing we've learned over the last, what, year? | ||
| 15 months? | ||
| Is that you've got to boost your immune system, and you owe this to yourself. | ||
| Nobody else can do it for you. | ||
| Go to WarmDefense.com today. | ||
| We've got the free vitamin D3 and the zinc. | ||
| You've got to pay shipping and handling. | ||
| We've got access to information. | ||
| on all other types of things that can help boost your immune system. | ||
| You've got to take personal responsibility for that. | ||
| No government, no entity, your family, friends can't do it. | ||
| You have to do it. | ||
| Remember, the work on oneself begins with oneself. | ||
| Start today. | ||
| Use your agency. | ||
| Go to WarmDefense.com today. | ||
| Find out all the information about how you boost your immune system. | ||
| I want to turn back now to Joe Allen. | ||
| from the Federalist wrote this amazing piece on transhumanism. | ||
| So walk our audience through, their heads are already blown up. | ||
| Why is transhumanism a new religion and who believes this except for a few nutcases that play video games all day long? | ||
| How broad do you think the real reach of this is? | ||
| We understand advanced chip design, robotics, artificial intelligence, gene editing are all over the place and very advanced in and of themselves, but who ties it together into actually a new religion except for a few cranks, Mr. Joe Allen. | ||
| So, it's really important to understand that the primary concern of religion, or one of the primary concerns of religion, is to overcome physical limitation. | ||
| The Transhumanist Project is to overcome physical limitation by way of technology. | ||
| The four primary means by which this is done is genetic editing, | ||
| Also, body modification, so that vision, hearing, things that can be replaced in blind and deaf people, if the technology is sufficiently advanced, it will be superior, and therefore transhumanists believe that it is ideal to replace pretty much any component of the body as much as possible, while still maintaining humanity of sorts. | ||
| The third is Brain modification, which is the mind, which in a materialist, atheistic point of view is the soul. | ||
| And so you're modifying your desires, you're increasing your cognition and intelligence. | ||
| The fourth, which I think is really fascinating, and that's the subject of the piece, the fourth is digital immortality. | ||
| Meaning that all of these components of yourself, your genetics, the phenotypic body, The mind itself, your cultural self, your psychological self, all of this is replicated in a computer. | ||
| I fear that I'm freezing up a bit there. | ||
| Maybe that's the technology gods coming against me. | ||
| I think you're definitely not freezing up, and I think you've now shocked the audience. | ||
| Here's the thing I want to make sure. | ||
| Keep going, but this is not some science fiction or science fantasy, and this is not from some crank website. | ||
| These are experiments. | ||
| By the way, ladies and gentlemen, you should understand, paid for by two things. | ||
| Number one, your retirement and pension funds supporting the institutional capital that goes into these companies, either in venture capital, private equity, or hedge funds, and your tax dollars. | ||
| DARPA is probably funded, or at least the seed funded, 80% of this. | ||
| But continue on, Joe. | ||
| We've got about three minutes. | ||
| Just continue on, because it's quite brainy and you're not freezing up. | ||
| Well, then in that case, if the time constraint is short, then let me just say three things. | ||
| One, what is the reach of this ideology? | ||
| What's the reach of transhumanism? | ||
| I think it is actually in the minority, but these aren't stupid people. | ||
| These are influential people. | ||
| And I think that they themselves are brilliant people, but again, their hubris, I think, outweighs their brilliance. | ||
| You had also asked, you know, or you had mentioned that these sorts of things are already part of our lives. | ||
| And you see with smartphone dependency, People are already, in some sense, becoming cyborgs in the sense that you're having this digital device make your decisions for you. | ||
| They're feeding you the information that you make your decisions on. | ||
| But the more that machine knows you, the more it knows how to manipulate you through its algorithms and through the output of the machine. | ||
| Where do I go for dinner? | ||
| Who do I marry? | ||
| Where do I live? | ||
| All of these things can be very easily manipulated on a very large scale and on a very deep scale as far as the human individual is concerned. | ||
| Another one you saw with the Biohacks company in Sweden, RFID chips in your hand in order to gain access to different locations in a building, to pay for your food, whatever. | ||
| Of course, you know, in a Christian community, The chip in the hand has a very sinister sort of connotation, and their sense of the sacred really, I think, revolts at the idea of that degree of invasion. | ||
| But that's just really, it's very minor in comparison to the invasion of putting your entire personality, putting your soul, basically, into a digital form by way of your emails, by way of your searches, by way of your conversation, which, you know, AI is trained in the deep learning algorithms are trained to listen into human conversations and develop an understanding of natural language and therefore understand you as a person or us as a society. | ||
| A third and I think very startling example. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| A third and I think very startling example and a kind of precursor to this desire to overcome physical limitations by way of technology is the transgender movement, the explosion of gender transitioning surgeries or sex change operations. | ||
| And I think that it really does in many ways exemplify the desire to go beyond one's physical self and even To the extent that males and females are very much different, your emotional and psychological self, by way of, first, hormonal therapy, and then actual, you know, physical augmentation, and then of course your presentation of your personality. | ||
| Yeah, Joe, hang on. | ||
| We've got to bounce. | ||
| We've got a hard stop, but real quickly, how do people, we've got the article up in the live chat, in the live stream, all the different rooms we've got, and we're going to bring Joe back. | ||
| How do people get access to you and your writings? | ||
| This is an explosive piece. | ||
| Everyone should read it. | ||
| We're trying to get this audience ahead of the curve on this. | ||
| Got about 30 seconds. | ||
| How do people get access to you? | ||
| Everything that I write will appear on joebot.xyz, J-O-E-B-O-T dot X-Y-Z. | ||
| That's a Substack account. | ||
| You'll also find me at The Federalist, and you can also find some of my articles at a more left-leaning site, coldtype.net. | ||
| So I hope that this is of interest to your audience, and I really appreciate you having me on. | ||
| Joe, it's huge. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| And a great tee-up for Senator Hawley. | ||
| Joe, thank you very much for joining us. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| When we return, we're going to have Josh Hawley talking about the tyranny of big tech. | ||
| He's got a book that's come out that you're going to have to get your hands on. | ||
| It's actually not really just about big tech. | ||
| It's about some of the fundamental issues in this country today. |
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