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April 29, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 910 – Not the End of a Wall, the End of a Country … (w/ Ben Bergquam, Mike Lindell)Episode 910 – Not the End of a Wall, the End of a Country … (w/ Ben Bergquam, Mike Lindell)
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Well the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
jimmy kimmel
Let's be truthful.
By the way, I have a buzzer here, just for the lawyers, in case there's anything that we have to challenge.
A lot of people didn't want you to come on the show.
On liberals and conservatives, everybody told me don't have you on the show, and they told you don't go on the show.
mike lindell
Yes, they did.
jimmy kimmel
But I think it's important that we talk to each other.
mike lindell
Absolutely.
jimmy kimmel
And I think that...
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
Actually, they listened to each other last night, which is the most amazing thing at all.
Now we bring in our armor-piercing shell, our warrior, Mike Lindell, who is fresh from his event last night with Jimmy Kimmel on national TV.
I don't know if we have the overnight ratings yet, but we ought to try to track those down.
But I can tell you, a lot of people I know were more focused on this than they were listening to Joe Biden drone on about his $11 trillion he's going to spend.
So, Mike, give us your assessment.
Was it what you thought it was going to be?
And what's your assessment of how it went, sir?
mike lindell
Well, I was very pleased.
I was surprised right away.
I'm going, is this a trick?
They were all really nice as a producer.
And his producer spent an hour and a half with me on the phone and going through everything.
And we actually went back and forth about certain things.
But I was very I was pleasantly surprised that when we got into an issue, he let me talk and then he'd ask a tough question and let me talk and then that was it. He moved on to the next thing. I like that about him and I thought that it was about as successful as it could be.
I had emails from all over the country.
I think you know it's a success, Steve, when all the media, from the Daily Beast on down, even the number one worst paper in the country, the Minneapolis Star and Tribune, they actually wrote articles that were saying, why did ABC do this?
Why did they have them on?
Why did Mike Pillow get to put an ad in there?
And so it made them nervous.
raheem kassam
Mike, it's Raheem here.
I have to say, I was one of the people who was very concerned about a trap being laid for you there, but I've got to give it to you.
steve bannon
Raheem, behind the scenes, was working with me for the last couple of days saying, hey look, I've seen this so many times before, they're laying a trap for Mike here.
That's one of the reasons on the interview the other day, we were trying to lay out some of the things.
raheem kassam
And I think to an extent that the trap was there if they wanted to use it, they would have had all of that.
But the thing that came across, Mike, was that you were so reasonable, you were so calm, you were so affable.
And that's what I think, you know, Jimmy himself, at least to the viewer at home, really warmed to.
You know, I was texting with Steve last night, I was saying, wow, you know, there is an actual, there is an actual on-screen chemistry between these two people.
It was a good interview.
Yeah, sure, he got some cheap shots in, whatever, it's Jimmy Kimmel, right?
mike lindell
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
raheem kassam
It's literally his job.
But I just, you know, I want to say, you did a marvelous job, and I think you really represented your point and your cause very well.
mike lindell
Well, thank you, and you know what?
He had read my book, and I think that was real important.
They told me in the dressing room, in the green room, they said, you know, he read your retired book, and he couldn't put it down, and that gave me a piece before I went on, and I just felt, it felt, he was one of these hosts that I just felt comfortable with, and it was, and that's, It made a difference.
And in between during the commercials, we were talking back and forth.
When I went to leave, they got this China virus garbage going on, see a bump arms, but he actually reached out and shook my hand.
And he said it was great and I got in the back and of course, they're all wanting pictures and of course they had to have their mask on by some California rule.
And, you know, and I want to tell everyone, when I went to leave there, there were all these protesters and all the protection around me.
He says, now, Mike, keep your head down.
We got to get out of here.
And I look up, and I'm not going to keep my head down.
I look and wanted to see what it was.
All you've seen was a sea of people and signs that said, Frank's speech will save America.
My pillow.
Save my pillow.
And it was just amazing.
I said, stop the car.
unidentified
I want to get out.
mike lindell
They said, you're not getting out.
We're going.
steve bannon
Listen, I think that's fantastic, it shows your support out there.
Let's go back, when Jimmy Kimmel, I thought the best part of the night was when he gave, he says, let's see how we got here.
He goes through Mike's thing about being, you know, a normal kid from Minnesota and then having some problems, I guess his parents split up, and then talk about the drug addiction, meth, the gambling cartels almost killed.
Crack, crack, crack, crack, crack.
So, but he clearly, not only read the book, he was very moved by your story.
Tell us about that, because obviously he had had Hunter Biden on, you know, a week or so ago, but I thought he was more engaged in really your recovery story than he was really with Hunter Biden's.
mike lindell
Yeah, he talked about that even beforehand, and he really was, you know, I think, he let me get the point across right away that we had set up the LyndoRecoveryNetwork.org To help addicts.
And I, you know, I don't know what Hunter Biden's done with his, with his story or what's going on there.
So I'm not going to act like I do, but he tried to, the, I know the writers or whatever had put in there about the paranoias.
And then he was going to tie it in to me being paranoid, not going back to Minnesota.
And I think that was the jab, but it didn't work because I have had death threats and stuff.
So I think the public, everybody's seeing that going, Hey, that's not being paranoid.
That's just being careful.
steve bannon
I don't think you've actually had a chance to really talk about that.
I know he brought it up last night.
And I don't think people at home understand not just the pressure on the company, the pressure on your team over at Liddell Recovery Network, but the pressure on you.
But you've had not just death threats, threats about violence against you.
For the first time I think you've had to actually get a real security force around you.
Can you tell our audience about that?
He tried to play it back to you being paranoid.
But, once again, you're data-based, evidence-based, science-based.
The evidence is showing you need security.
Why is that?
What types of threats are you getting?
mike lindell
There's been a lot of deviations from our normal garbage that we get when the bots and trolls come out.
We've had real people, where we know they're real people, and we've tracked them back.
A lot of them are just, you know, they'll be prank calls, but not prank calls when you're threatening lives or threatening, you know, Violence and and we track them back and and so when they become real when it's not just the bots and trolls, you know saying crazy stuff.
It becomes real and I've I did for me.
I just think it's and it's part of that too.
But it's part also when you have this kind of stuff that the responsibility that God's given me with this platform.
I don't I've had people come up to me and said you owe it to you owe it to us.
You owe it to you know, I did.
I have a full team of security right now.
A lot of them ex-Navy SEALs and they protecting myself and I'm staying away from Minnesota because if I'm not there, if I'm a threat to them, I feel that they you know they'll stay away from my company maybe and my and my relatives and family so but it's it's become very real when they threaten to burn down your houses and living with a pretty nice family things like that you know.
steve bannon
Mike, progressives are supposed to be all about peace and love and unity and equality.
When you get these threats, are they most, is it because, because you've been out there pretty outspoken about the virus, things like this, is it because of You're being at the forefront of trying to get to the bottom of November 3rd.
Is it get back to the, not just the voter integrity going forward, but is it get back to your work about November 3rd and your really demands that we can't go forward, this has to be sorted out and the American people have to have full accountability?
Is that what the hub of the threats come from?
mike lindell
That's number one.
You're exactly right.
Everything changed on January 9th when I threw out that first piece of evidence and then it really got magnified when, as the media kept grabbing that and saying that, you know, trying to suppress it and then attacking me when I was losing retailers and losing my Twitter accounts and things like that.
But, you know, I've always backed this great President Donald Trump since I met him in the summer of 16.
And sure, I was attacked back then.
But these are different.
You always, you know, it was always a consistent about 95% good that would, when you talk about my pillow, people that would call in at least 95%.
Then you'd have the 5% haters.
But this changed, everything changed.
brought it up about 20 scales where there's really an underlying fear there because of this because of trying to stop these machines and this China attack and that brought it up to a level to beyond belief and where there all of a sudden threats became real and this is real, this is everything. It's like living inside of a big spy movie and all of a sudden you're to the
part the most dangerous part of the movie and so that's the difference and I think even Jimmy Kimmel last night he brought it up about people saying this was the most secure election ever, Chris Krebs, and I said no.
I said he didn't have this back when he said that.
This all came after January 9th.
And Chris Krebs and Adam Schiff both said on Morning Joe a couple weeks ago, the biggest threat to our country is the China attack and with right down to the local levels.
unidentified
Jimmy didn't quite... I want to go to that...
steve bannon
He didn't quite make the connection.
Remember, this is Adam Schiff's committee came out with a report that said he's on the House Intelligence Committee.
They're the guys that drove the impeachment, the first impeachment of President Trump.
He came out with a report, was it Rahim, a couple of weeks ago.
We highlight, spent a couple of segments on it.
Krebs is on.
on Morning Joe and they're sitting there going the biggest threat we have now is cyber threats from China also Russia but China's the biggest you know the biggest entity here etc etc Jimmy didn't quite make the connection he says well hold it that has nothing to do with what does that have to do with whatever he also had the red button up there saying hey if you get crazy I'm gonna hit the red button Now, I realize it's a gag, but he didn't.
What I found most stunning, and this is what Rahim was most concerned about beforehand, Rahim said, hey, look, I think in a very sophisticated way, they're going to walk Mike into a situation where he's blowing up on Dominion and actually making his case worse.
When he put the button up there, I said, oh, here we go.
But he didn't.
He actually let you make a case.
And by the way, he made the counter arguments I think you have to make, but he lets you kind of lay out the theory of the case.
But he didn't make the connection.
Between the House Intelligence shift and Krebs.
So right now, we've got a couple minutes.
Make that connection for the audience of the ABC guys watching.
I know it's tough to get live, but it's a central connection between what they said about the cyber attacks and what you're arguing.
mike lindell
Right.
This goes back all the way to November and it goes back then in December when Barr said there wasn't enough evidence to overturn the election.
You had Chris Krebs say it was the most secure election in history.
And all these people said this in November and December.
But this evidence didn't come out until January 9th, and we've got so much more from January 9th on.
And realize, everybody, like I was on Jimmy Kimmel last night, where he goes, well, who are you, a pillow guy to know all this?
I said, I don't know all this.
My platform is, you know, everybody came to me because I could get the word out.
And so that's what's went on now.
But all of a sudden now, Chris Krebs and Adam Schiff are saying the biggest threat to our country is cyber attack from China because they can hack into anything.
And everybody needs to know this.
If you watch Absolute Interference, I hired a white hat hacker that works for the government that protects our country to validate absolute proof.
Absolute interference is all about that validation.
Can I say one more thing, Steve?
unidentified
Sure.
mike lindell
What I told Jimmy Kimmel was, you know, he goes, what if this was reversed, Mike, would you still do it?
I said, you know what, if they would have done their job on December 14th to put Donald Trump in power, and I found out this on January 9th, absolutely, this is about our country.
This isn't about a Democrat or Republican.
That point, I think he let me make very clear, and I was very happy about that, because people need to know that.
steve bannon
In a great interview, I thought it was the best part.
Okay, let's take a short commercial break, because I want to ask you, you talk about White Hat, you've got guys from the government.
The question is, those guys used to work for Krebs and for Barr.
I mean, the government's got this, so how does Krebs, we've got a short break, how does Krebs sit there, a Trump appointee, with Barr, a Trump appointee and confirmed, right, by a Republican-controlled Senate?
How do those guys who have access to all those hackers, have access to all that information, how did they say, there's nothing to see here?
And Mike Lindell says the exact opposite.
Short commercial break, we'll be back with a Jimmy Kimmel interview in a moment.
unidentified
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steve bannon
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600,000 views already on YouTube on this interview.
Absolutely stunning.
raheem kassam
ABC, right?
unidentified
Always be cuddling your pillow.
steve bannon
Very good.
Coffee's for guys on the pillow.
raheem kassam
I gotta tell you, these YouTube comments are amazing.
Firstly, 600,000 people have watched this on YouTube now.
steve bannon
Wow.
raheem kassam
And it only went up this morning.
I'll read a couple of, if you don't mind.
This is the interview we didn't know we needed.
Mike Lindell can really laugh at himself.
I've got to hand it to Mike.
He's a great sport.
Mike was very polite.
This doesn't seem as awkward as I thought it would be.
The guy's a great sport.
People are very positive about this.
steve bannon
I thought Kimmel, that's what I said, not just talk to each other, they listen to each other, and I thought Jimmy did a good job of letting Mike, not to explain, but his natural humility came out.
The audience, Mike, really responded positively.
When you first came out, a great round of applause.
I thought it was a terrific round of applause when Kimmel asked the question and said, Are you so partisan?
She was on the other foot and you came out very sincerely and said you would.
How important do you think this, having this up on YouTube, not just in the Kimmel audience, which I think is going to be huge when we get the overnights, but also that 600,000 people are seeing it now on YouTube and see you in a totally different light?
mike lindell
Yeah, well, I think it's going to be in the millions.
I know it will.
It just came up about an hour and a half ago, I think.
But, you know, it's going to be so important because people, the media, the mainstream media has been fighting me since January 9th to try and turn me into this conspiracy theorist and this person that, you know, I'm the same person I've always been.
You know, the difference is I'm not on drugs anymore and I fell on the Lord and I'm using him to guide my past, but you know, what, you know, what changed if everybody looks at all of a sudden, gee, you all knew me from TV.
You all knew me when I backed out of the greatest president, Donald Trump.
And not all of a sudden on January 9th, they create this monster and they attacked me and attacked me.
I think this is going to show, which I, I wanted this so bad to be able to, to go on a, you know, a far left media, you know, and go, go there.
And, and for people to see.
Um, you know who I am.
I'm not, I'm not out there going.
He asked me if I, uh, if I believed in Bigfoot and I said, well, I haven't seen one.
I guess if I seen one, I probably would.
I, you know, what do you want me to say?
I do my due diligence on things and I wouldn't be out there doing this if it wasn't a hundred percent real.
And I think that came across to the, to everyone.
And I think it's going to be just a game changer out there.
There's so many great things happening right now around the country with all this I want us all involved in this, not just the Republicans or conservatives.
This is an attack on our country, and I want everybody to know about it.
Let's do something.
When it gets here, I want everybody to pull that lever and say, China, you're guilty.
CCP, you're guilty.
steve bannon
Let's go to, I want to go back to Jimmy Kimmel, and you were talking about the cyber, and he said, look, I don't get the connection.
And he continued to throw, you know, Krebs, particularly a Trump appointee, and also a shift.
But you keep saying, hey, I've gone and gotten the best guys in the world.
Some of the guys I've worked, I've gotten have been former government employees or contractors have done this consistently.
Yet, Bill Barr had every resource of the government at his disposal.
Remember, the FBI reports up to the Justice Department, as the Attorney General.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
Krebs was at DHS.
Krebs' specific responsibility, according to Chad Wolf, who reported to the President, was he was in charge of election security.
Executive Order kind of laid out, I think in 18, how that was all supposed to take place, and he had a lot of things that he had to do and a report that he had to give.
So those guys had access to the same types of guys that you've hired for your thing, and maybe, let's see, maybe probably even better, right?
And had more resources, unlimited resources of the federal government.
So why, having access to those guys, You're saying they didn't utilize them?
They didn't tell them?
They didn't know it?
Or they saw that and just looked the other way?
It's such a huge disconnect, particularly since it is a Trump administration.
It was not a group of left-wingers that were in office protecting themselves.
This was a sitting president with his people.
mike lindell
Yeah, well, there's a couple things.
One is the guy that I've hired to validate this, he actually still does work with the government when there's cyber attack.
These are the frontline guys that go in there and protect us.
First, you find the breach, you protect us, and then you say, what do we set so this never happens again?
But first of all, they have to validate the breach.
I think if I had to be a theory here, Steve, now this is theory, that there was so much information that was flooding Washington, D.C.
because there was also so much other fraud, just rampant fraud and corruption.
I've never seen anything like this.
And they're trying to discern stuff, but one of the things is they did not have what I got on January 9th.
If they did have it, I don't know why nothing was done.
Now, I'm not saying they did have it or didn't have it, but if they did have it, that's a shame.
But I will say when I got it, and there were many other people from different directions trying to get this to the White House or to them, and they didn't have the voice that I had, and it was almost going to be gone.
And so on January 9th, when I raised my hand and go, hey, we got something here that's bigger than all of us.
This is an attack on our country, not just, you know, through the elections, but it's over if we don't address this.
And so I think that's why I really believe now, you know, there's no statute of limitations on this.
And we have three paths now to pull down this election, three separate paths.
We can talk about another day as I'm learning more of each one of these.
And we're all, they're all doing great.
And this is about our whole country, about whether you're a Democrat or Republican.
This is very real.
If you watch Absolute Interference, just 19 of these cyber attacks from China turned all five of the states, Georgia, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Arizona, and flipped them all to Donald Trump.
unidentified
That's just five of thousands of attacks.
steve bannon
We'll flip him away from Donald Trump, I think.
Okay, but let's go back to a second.
mike lindell
John, wait.
No, no, this flips him back to Donald Trump.
unidentified
Yes, I'm saying that.
steve bannon
Yes, he pulled the tax down.
Let's go.
I just want to hang there for a second.
Yeah, Jimmy focused on, his producers focused on you walking into the White House with the memo and it talked about, you know, pulling the trigger on the Insurrection Act, martial law, all that, and they try to make that a big deal.
But, the people you've hired now, and when you went in there and talked to people, is it that nobody believed you?
They still work for the government today.
Did they talk to anybody in the government?
Did they talk to anybody in the apparatus?
Did people either not take it seriously?
Did they suppress the information?
Did they say, no, you got it wrong, technically you're not right, and here's the question?
This is what I think is so confusing to people.
You have, in Arizona today, You're starting, and the machines in that don't come until later, you're actually going through just a validation, the forensic audit to look at the old-fashioned, as Peter Navarro walked through, the 254,000 illegal votes, the old-fashioned way, right?
Before you even get to the machines.
But what Kimmel focused on, the memo, Walk people through.
Did people just not believe you?
Did the guys working for you talk to people in the government?
Because I think this is the biggest part of confusion.
This is so big and so massive and so obvious to people who are technically proficient to do this.
Why has no one in authority?
Forget the courts.
Why is no one in authority in a Trump government, believe you?
mike lindell
Well, maybe it was too late.
You know, this was on January 15th.
And when I got in there, there were two things I had.
It was four pieces of the evidence from the cyber spyware.
And then there was those two pieces of paper that came from the lawyers and said, here, if you do get a meeting, give them this.
And I went in there and you know, there was Robert O'Brien, the National Security Advisor, and a couple other guys.
The one guy They asked, I think, now I've got to get the name right, this guy, is it John Ratcliffe?
Ratcliffe?
steve bannon
Yeah, he's only the head of DNI, Director of National Intelligence.
A fairly big guy.
mike lindell
They all report to him.
But I'm just doing this by memory, and the president asked when I showed him this evidence, he said, does John Ratcliffe know about this?
And he says, yeah, we let him know.
So I think they let him know about what I had had out there.
But now they brought everything upstairs.
They brought me upstairs.
And the president said, here, bring this upstairs to lawyers and bring my back.
See what we got here.
I brought it upstairs and everybody knows they kind of shooed me out of the White House.
I met with two people just to kind of tell them I'm all excited.
And I said, are you going to do something or can I go back and see the president?
No.
And I just got kind of escorted out of the White House.
But I will say this, that John Radcliffe or whatever, I believe, don't quote me on this, but after that, he actually did a report saying that there was massive fraud, I think.
steve bannon
He said that he did a report, it was supposed to be 45 days, it was delayed.
We know it's delayed because the CIA didn't agree, but the report at the end of the day was really, I think the focus was more on social media, the Wuhan 50 Cent, Wu Mao 50 Cent Army, or it wasn't about a direct cyber intrusion at the scale that you talk about.
It did set interference, but I think that interference, most people would drive for, okay Mike, we're going to take a short commercial break.
The one thing I just want to make sure is that no discussion at all about Insurrection Act, although you had the memos, no discussion about Marshall Law, Insurrection Act.
Zero.
mike lindell
Zero.
steve bannon
A little bit they gave you the bums rust, but we'll talk about it.
We're going to go to the border with Ben Burkwam.
I know Mike wants to get his comments on it.
We got some observations.
Ben Burkwam, Real America's Voice of the Border.
Then we're going to get back into Mike about the Kimmel interview and about other aspects of what he's doing on this investigation going forward.
All next when we return in the War Room.
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steve bannon
You know, Rahim, something didn't get a lot of mention last night in the 85% poll that, you know, they love the speech.
He barely mentioned The crisis at the border.
In fact, I don't think he mentioned the crisis at the border at all.
What he mentioned was giving amnesty to everybody in the known world.
I want to go now to Ben Berquam, who's down on the wall.
It's not a crisis anymore, it's an emergency.
Ben, put us in the room.
You had the big rally yesterday.
Tell us what's going on and what you've got for us.
ben bergquam
Well we're starting here at the federal wall.
You can see behind me this is President Trump's third wall where you have actually concrete about 12 feet tall and then you go up it ends up being about 30 feet tall up to the top of the wall here but you'll notice real quick here This is the end of it.
This is where on January 20th, Joe Biden stopped the construction.
And so when I'm over here, you simply, you know, just walk in on in.
But the other part of this is, this is the federal wall.
The actual border is about a mile that way.
You can see the private wall off in the distance, that silver one, that's where we were at yesterday.
But we were there, and I just want to show a couple things.
We were there with Angel Moms, and one of the things that got me the most was watching them.
They were actually signing messages to their sons, Agnes Gibney and Laura Wilkerson were writing messages to their sons on the wall and I, man, you talk about things that break you down.
Hearing the stories and watching them do this, it was just like, oh, and on the anniversary of Agnes Gibney's son's death 19 years ago, it's interesting too, and I asked the the moms for pictures of their children.
They always send me the most recent picture before their child died, but then they also send me when they were babies.
And because, you know, children are always babies to their parents.
You never lose that.
It was just broke us down.
Then we took a riverboat trip.
We were actually out on the Rio Grande last night, and as we were going along the river, I was interviewing some of the angel moms, and as we were going along, the walls all lit up, and we look and see, and there were four people walking along the wall.
They had just been dropped off by coyotes, smugglers.
They had been brought off over on a raft.
It was a man and a child, and a woman and a child, and to be there on the boat with the angel moms, watching this, the anger that came out of them, you know, justified anger.
It's just, it's, it's, you just can't, I can't, I can't empathize because I don't know.
I try to empathize, but to think about that, that this is what Joe Biden and this administration are doing.
They're saying, come on over to these parents that have lost everything.
They've lost the things that mean the most to them.
And then I interviewed Marie Vega on that boat and we were talking about her son.
He was a border patrol agent, Javier Vega Jr., and he was an agent down here in the Rio Grande Valley.
This is what she had to say.
America needs to hear this.
unidentified
I think that Biden and Harris need to come out here and actually see what is happening.
You know, take a tour, see the rafts.
This is totally unsafe.
It needs to stop.
I hope that they come down here soon and see what is happening.
You know, they need to stop this.
We had four years of progress only to throw it all away in a hundred days.
You know, as angel moms, as a mother who lost her child, I just can't relate to any of this.
I can't.
Honestly.
ben bergquam
And we heard all that last night from Joe Biden and you said it that, you know, talking about people don't need to work to get a paycheck.
He's so out of touch with reality, so out of touch with what's actually happened and what people are going through down here on the border and across America.
It's just it's just disgusting to have to see it, to live it, to hear it.
But we're going to continue to do it because America needs to see this in the same way that Mike Lindell is exposing what he's exposing and fighting for America.
We have to continue to show this so that America doesn't forget about it.
steve bannon
No, by the way, this is the real legacy of the 100 days.
And by the way, all his phony populism last night and really trying to buy off, you know, it's a blue-collar plan, blue-collar.
This is, what you're seeing at the border, those are blue-collar folks, those are working-class folks down there.
And the hardscrabble counties down there on the Rio Grande Valley, these are hard-working, good people, American citizens.
It's all put on their shoulders.
And now every town's a border town.
We're going to have Tom Tiffany from Mike, I know you've got a lot to say about the border.
People think right now you're 100% focused on the election, which you are, but I know that you and I talk all the time offline about the situation on the border and what's happening and the pressure it's putting on people, working class people.
What's your observation, particularly these angel moms?
And I'm so proud of President Trump.
This was really Stephen Miller.
Well, it's awesome.
And the President, when I talked to him the other day, this was his number one thing he brought up.
gave them a platform, including at the Republican National Convention. And trust me, the RNC did not want the angel moms up on stage at all. This was insisted by Donald J. Trump. He says, these people have to have a platform. They have to have a voice. The American people have to see it. So, Mike, what are your thoughts about Ben's work down there?
mike lindell
Well, it's awesome. And the president, when I talked to him the other day, this was his number one thing he brought up. And I'm talking about our real president, Donald Trump. He said, I'm so worried about what they've done to all the progress we made at the They threw it all away.
And I want to say, you know, if everybody can look back to where we were in January of 2020, all the great place we were in and everything.
And now look where we're at now.
You look at things and say, how can they make a decision?
I'm talking about Democrats now, you know, what's in office right now.
Why would they make a decision?
To stop that border right where you're at, man, and stop it there.
How is that going to help anybody?
All it's going to do is hurt people.
And everyone needs to look at that.
What are the consequences of them doing it?
What's their motivation to stop that wall right by your right arm there?
I mean, it just doesn't make sense.
And if it doesn't make sense, they're doing it for alternative motives, either political or part of this This invasion we're going to be having with China and the CCP taking over our country.
It's horrible what they're doing.
These decisions they're making, and this is number one, and we cannot, this goes perfect with Frank's speech, we have to keep getting the word out on the border, the vaccines and the machines.
That's my vote.
steve bannon
Ben, you're doing incredible work down there.
We're trying to get you in the afternoon show.
You had the rally yesterday.
And I also want to give a hat tip to the guys at Real America's Voice.
It's so easy to look the other way on these stories, right?
You get tons of pressure from all over.
That's why I think Howard and Rob, the senior management and the...
have done such an incredible job. Empowering people like Ben Berkwam to go, whether it's in Georgia about voter fraud, in Arizona about voter fraud, or whether it's down the border, tell the real story and get real reporting on the Mexico side and everything. And you see the humanitarian crisis, the humanitarian emergency is on the back of the working-class American people.
When John Tamney, who's a big thinker, economist, you know, runs RealClearMarkets, he's in there and saying, hey, we can continue to print money because it's on the full faith and credit of the United States.
You know what that means?
That means working-class people.
It's on your shoulders.
That's why we can print this money.
That's where the wealth creation comes from, right?
So, Ben, fantastic job.
We look to jump in back with you later.
And by the way, great job on giving a voice and a platform to the Angel Moms.
mike lindell
Yes.
ben bergquam
Hey, and just one thing I want to say real quick.
Sure.
It's interesting, the government guys are coming over here saying we have to leave the property.
They're saying that we're actually trespassing, which is ironic because we actually have authorization to be here by the property owner, the farmer down here.
But what's interesting is that this same government that's in control right now doesn't mind when people break into our country.
But when citizens come down here to expose what's going on, they have a problem with that that's happening right now as we're on the air.
But I did speak to some locals, and they told me, you see all the construction crews, the trucks behind me?
This, I haven't validated or confirmed this yet, but they're saying that it's possible that as early as Monday, this administration, they might start back up on construction.
I think they're starting to get the hint.
Now again, I haven't confirmed that.
We'll wait and see what happens, if that actually ends up happening.
Well, and we'll see what the left does, because they're realizing this is a losing battle, like you said, like Mike said.
What's the justification?
There's no reason.
We're spending, one of the contractors said, a million dollars a day to do nothing.
These guys are under contract.
We're burning tax dollars, a million dollars a day to do it.
Anyways, we'll bring you the update.
I know you've got to jump to the mic, but thank you.
steve bannon
No, no, no.
Thank you, Steve.
ben bergquam
It's an honor to be out here.
steve bannon
Hang on, brother.
One last shot.
The reason they're doing it is that... Do you still get that shot where the wall ends?
That's the thing they can't stand up to.
unidentified
You show that shot and show it to the American people.
steve bannon
We got a crisis, an emergency that's burying Hispanic Americans in the Rio Grande Valley.
Look at that right there.
That's ridiculous.
You know what that's the equivalent of?
Wearing a mask in Congress when you're vaccinated, right?
This is stupid.
No, this is what Bill Maher, look at that right there, you see that?
This is that scene in Lawrence of Arabia that Bill Maher said, you're a silly people.
unidentified
That's right.
steve bannon
The Chinese Communist Party and the guys in Beijing see that and they're laughing at us, okay?
They understand that's right there, the end of that wall.
Why are they chasing Ben Burkham out?
You know why?
Because that says right there, that's the end of American sovereignty.
Right there.
unidentified
The more they want him out, the more I think we should just keep rolling, quite frankly.
steve bannon
Yeah, yeah, you should stay, Ben.
Don't leave.
That right there.
Donald Trump, for all his imperfections, right, for people on the left, understood that he's sitting there protecting the American people.
That's right.
particularly people of Hispanic descent down in that valley, that voted for him overwhelmingly.
Okay?
And this is the realignment we're talking about in 2022.
We don't need the country club Republicans.
We don't need Karl Rove.
We don't need the globalists on Wall Street.
We don't need the big donor class.
You know what you need?
You need to show people that, hey, when we get back in in 2022 and stop Nancy Pelosi and throw her out, we're going to put pressure on Biden to continue that wall.
And when Trump comes back in 2024, the first thing he's going to be down there is doing it is with a couple of backhoes and building this wall some more.
That right there, Ben Burkwam, is the exact equivalent of wearing a mask while they're sitting there with Joe Biden in the house.
It shows you they're not serious people, okay?
They're not serious.
ben bergquam
And the hypocrisy, like you just said, Rahim said, of saying, we can't be here.
We're American citizens.
We pay the taxes.
And his comments last night about we the people being the government.
No!
We the people are the people.
The government works for us.
And for them to say, we can't be here.
But they say, right down over here, people can simply walk across.
Cartel members can walk across.
Cartel controls that.
And they can send hundreds of people over with drugs.
And send slaves over.
Modern day slavery over.
But they don't want us to show this.
They don't want us to show their ineptitude.
That is it right there.
That is Democrats in a nutshell.
The end of a wall.
It doesn't work.
Neither do Democrat policies.
steve bannon
End of a wall, by the way, with working class folks sitting around burning up a million dollars a day.
They can make more money and they want to work.
You've got all the equipment.
You have all the people.
You have all the material.
This is Joe Biden right there saying, no, your sovereignty doesn't matter.
Your security doesn't matter.
Your health doesn't matter.
Because, you know, everybody walks through there is getting a covid check.
They get they get covid tested right there and they go into quarantine.
Don't they, Ben?
They're quarantining right there, aren't they?
14-day quarantine after they take the COVID test.
ben bergquam
No.
No, they sure don't.
In fact, they just bring them in.
They put them on the bus.
We were waiting to come on the air.
There were two transport buses that drove past us.
They're picking people up.
We're going to head down that way right now, right after we're done.
They're picking people up there.
They're throwing them on a bus.
They're bringing them into America.
But they're telling you, don't celebrate Independence Day.
Stay away from your family.
Wear a mask.
Don't go back to work.
All of this nonsense.
They're destroying our economy.
Continuing to destroy our economy.
Well, they're inviting in who knows what.
That's the problem.
We just don't know.
That's what Brandon Judd said yesterday.
The biggest problem is we don't know.
raheem kassam
Ben, wear a mask.
It's seven masks now, haven't you heard the update?
By the way, that's not the end of a wall you're looking at there, that's the end of a country you're looking at.
steve bannon
That's end of America right there, okay?
unidentified
That's it.
steve bannon
We're gonna take a short commercial break.
ben bergquam
By the way, I don't wear masks, but if I do, this is the one I wear.
I don't wear them, but if I do, if I have to, this is the one I wear.
steve bannon
Ben, you're a patriot.
I gotta tell you.
Fabulous reporting.
I want to thank the team at Real America's Voice.
Ben Burquham down there.
We'll get his stuff up in the live chat.
Mike Lindell is going to stay with us.
He's going to take a short commercial break.
Raheem Kassam's right.
That ain't the end of the wall.
That's the end of America right there.
Okay?
Short commercial break.
We'll be back in a second.
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We've got so much to get through.
Mike, real quickly, any comments, observations about Ben Berkwam down at the wall before we turn to Frank?
mike lindell
Yeah, I'm just, uh, you guys gotta just keep getting, he's gotta keep getting it out.
They're showing that every day.
It's just like, you know what, he brought up a good point.
We paid for that.
We're the, we are the American people.
And it's just like, you know, I compare it to, we, we paid for the machines.
You know, we get to, we should be able to look at all the machines that when I talk about Dominion and stuff, these are the things that if it doesn't make sense, everybody If it doesn't make sense, it's for another agenda.
It's for a political or a personal agenda.
And it's not for we the people.
And that's what's all got to change.
But we got to keep showing it, showing it, showing it.
So I like the way you kept it on there.
That's a visual.
This is the end of the USA.
It's the end of our country, not just the end of that wall.
And I will say this, Steve, you know you said President Trump coming back in 2024.
I'm still sticking to August of this year, everybody.
That's my opinion.
steve bannon
By the way, we're going to come back tomorrow and talk about Arizona with Mike Lindell.
There's a lot to go through.
Mike Lindell's focus, hey, he's coming back around August 15th of this year.
I'll take 2024, but hey, anything earlier, I'll take too.
But Mike, real quickly, on Frank, a lot of people are bugging us.
How do they get on?
You've got from the Corn Palace in Mitchell, South Dakota, on Monday, May 10th, you do a grand opening.
Right?
But when can people start loading in, and when are they going to see the social media part of this, which they're all dying to?
mike lindell
Right, okay.
The first, yesterday we let a lot of people come in and check it all out.
They influenced the broadcast network part of Frank.
That's when I'm really getting loaded up, so other people like Lyndale TV will be able to stream on there.
That's all going to be launched this week.
And then the people will be able to go in there.
You're not going to be able to comment.
I'm going to leave that part turned off.
You go in there.
You do everything you look at.
Yeah.
You check out everybody's pop.
The influencers, how they populate, you'll spend, you'll put your profile in.
And by May 10th, I really believe we'll have everything where I can turn the switch on and everybody comment.
We're having the big event of Frank Rally.
Thousands of thousands of people in Mitchell, South Dakota.
I'm going to be there speaking on my good friend, Joe Piscopo.
He just confirmed yesterday.
He's going to entertain everyone for an hour.
The doors open at four.
It holds 3,500 people, I believe.
And he's one of the best entertainers I've ever seen.
And he's going to do Frank Sinatra.
He does a lot of great singing, plays six instruments.
And then everybody that comes is getting a free book and a free DVD of Absolute Proof and also one of my free books, Crack Addict to CEO.
I'm going to speak for over an hour.
And it's going to be amazing.
There's going to be some special guests there.
I don't think that'll be bonuses for everybody.
But we need to talk about this is going to be the start.
Actually, I think last night was the start of really turning on this and getting our voices out there with Jimmy Kimmel.
And I think that's the turning point.
We're going to look back someday and say, let's get our voices out there.
And that was it.
steve bannon
Well it's a hat tip to Jimmy Kimmel's production team and Jimmy Kimmel himself for actually listening to you, right, and having a conversation.
He threw back, he gave as good as he got.
Mike, thank you so much.
Tomorrow we're going to get into Arizona.
On the 5 o'clock show we're going to have Marjorie Taylor Greene.
We're going to get also into Arizona, what's going on.
Mike, thank you so much.
You're a great patriot, beloved by this audience.
Thank you so much.
mike lindell
Thanks a lot.
God bless y'all.
steve bannon
God bless you.
Raheem, so we've got Marjorie Taylor Greene at 5.
By the way, when we book these congressmen, it's all subject to votes and running around.
Marjorie Taylor Greene at 5 o'clock.
She's got a lot to say in particular about what's going on down in Georgia.
Remember, the fights are never over.
You think you win, then they come back, then you've got to win again, okay?
Raheem, podcast today?
raheem kassam
Maybe.
I did a good long one yesterday, which I like to let them just state.
Breathe.
Exactly.
Like a good wine.
I might do one today on this CBS poll, because this is the most... Look, I know, polls tend to be weighted and fake and whatever, but this is the... You know how long I've followed this for and the industry for?
This is perhaps the most heinous example I've ever seen.
unidentified
Wow.
raheem kassam
No, no, no.
steve bannon
Seriously?
The 85% was a tip to you?
raheem kassam
This is malpractice.
You can't get away with this.
steve bannon
It's information warfare, dude.
It's a psyops.
Come on, they're all in now.
They're all in.
You can tell.
So Raheem, if you do a podcast, but you've got to read that article.
We'll talk about it at five o'clock.
raheem kassam
And I want everybody to grab the link from the National Pulse and share it with everyone who's sharing the CBS article.
steve bannon
That's what you're a force multiplier.
Please share all the segments from the show.
Please share the show.
Get your friends on here.
In tribute to the parents in Vail, Arizona.
We're going to try to do it the right way.
The guys in Denver are now booted up.
We're going to end with the hymn of the Concord Bridge.
And the reason is, they gave us yesterday, or a couple days ago, the shot heard round the world.
This is from Ralph Waldo Emerson.
It premiered in January of 1861 as he was trying to make a plea for a nation not to slide into civil war.
Hymn to Concord Bridge.
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By the root bridge that harks the flood, Where black-blue April's breeze unfurled, Here once in battle farmers stood, ♪ Through April's breeze unfurled ♪ ♪ Here once in battle farmers stood ♪ ♪ And by the shot heard round the world ♪
♪ The foe of sin's in silence slept ♪ ♪ But like the conqueror's silence sleeps ♪ ♪ At time the ruined bridge has swept ♪ ♪ Down the dark stream where seaward creeps ♪
♪ On this green bank by this soft stream ♪ ♪ We set today a halted stone ♪ time the ruined bridge has swept down the dark stream where seaward breaks.
On this green bank, by this soft stream, we set today a golden stone that memory may their deep redeem, when like our sighs our songs are gone.
Spirit that made those heroes dare to die and keep their children free, with time and nature gently spare, the shaft we raise to them and thee.
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