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Episode 880 – In the Ballroom on the Titanic ... Getting Fauci’s Receipts and Truth About CCP VirusEpisode 880 – In the Ballroom on the Titanic ... Getting Fauci’s Receipts and Truth About CCP Virus
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The virus has now killed more than 100 people in China, and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
You don't want to frighten the American public.
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
This is going to be a real serious problem.
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't, and the worst happens... War Room.
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Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Fire, sir!
If you need to respect the chair and shut your mouth!
Okay, well, that happened once in a while, and I... So rude!
joe scarborough
Well, you know what's interesting is...
It's so personal.
And it is personal.
It's really rude.
They have lied about Dr. Fauci.
They have spread conspiracy theories about Dr. Fauci.
They have said the most preposterous things.
It is personal.
They're trying to attack the messenger who's been warning them.
Well, they've been lying through their teeth to the American people who's been warning them.
That a lot of people could die.
And a year ago, they kept saying, open things up.
Everything's fine.
This is no worse than the flu.
Nowhere over 550,000 people are dead.
And the lies continue.
The scapegoating still continues.
No personal liberties were taken away.
The Supreme Court has reviewed cases.
The courts have reviewed cases.
It's just sheer idiocy playing for the lowest common denominator.
unidentified
Is it getting clicks being so rude?
joe scarborough
Well, it certainly lies about lies about Anthony Fauci.
You've always gotten clicks.
Conspiracy theories have always gotten clicks.
I've talked about a stupid, you have to be a moron to believe it, but there are, I guess, a lot of morons out there.
Something called plandemic, where they get somebody come and just make things up whole cloth, suggesting he killed people during the AIDS epidemic.
It's all filled with lies.
And yet people are stupid enough to believe it.
And so Jim Jordan peddles those lies and peddles the suggestion that Anthony Fauci somehow is the problem instead of a coronavirus that's spread across America and killed 550,000 people.
You know the thing is, before we get to the doctor really quickly, Willie, intelligent people Really intelligent people with advanced degrees.
Really intelligent people I have known my entire life who run major operations.
Do you actually believe that doctors are lying on death certificates and putting that somebody died of COVID because their hospital would make more money?
You think a doctor would risk their career by lying on a death certificate?
Yes, that's exactly what's happening.
There are people dying of the flu.
And again, Again, these aren't people stepping out of a cave, chewing tobacco, and never going to school.
That's one of the great lies of this Trump populism, that it's all this certain group of uneducated, teeming masses.
No, no.
A lot of the people that I have to talk to every day that believe these stupid lies They're really intelligent.
steve bannon
I can't take any more of his voice.
Just the hate and the vitriol.
And quite frankly, it's a combo platter of lies and just stupidity.
Right?
I know he's got producers that write it all down, do the monologues, but this guy, I got to bring in now.
Dr. Peter Navarro.
It's 16 April.
It's Friday, I guess, late afternoon, early evening on the 16th of April, the year of our Lord, 2021.
And I just think back a year ago, what we were doing, Peter.
I mean, this is when Dr. Lee Min Yang was coming out of Hong Kong University and fleeing Hong Kong.
We already knew you had been laboring on this since I think the second or third week of January when Morning Joe and these guys were discounting, when Tony Fauci was discounting, but I just got to go back and I want to be very specific.
We didn't have time to play the whole thing as we did the other day, but Jim Jordan, Jim Jordan wasn't lying about Anthony Fauci.
He was asking a basic question that we have to start to get to.
It's like, what's the theory of the case?
What's the intellectual construct?
And how do we get a set of math and metrics?
Remember, Joe, you guys keep telling us that, you know, science-based, evidence-based, data-based.
That's what we are here in the war room, and particularly That's what Dr. Peter Navarro is and has been.
So if you want to talk about somebody who saved lives, Joe Scarborough, it's Dr. Peter Navarro.
And there's a documented record of that.
It's Dr. Peter Navarro's memos.
And why did he have to write these memos in the third week of January, in the fourth week of January?
Why on, I think, January 27th of the year of our Lord 2020?
Why was Dr. Peter Navarro?
back in his office over at EOB, why did he sit there for hours and write a detailed memo and talk about the millions of people that could potentially die unless we immediately started to close essentially the borders and particularly the air bridge, the border from China, from mainland China, coming to the United States, not for racism, not xenophobia, not nativism, because Dr. Peter Navar and Stephen K. Bannon, understand China to the degree that,
hey, four minutes into the Biden administration, Navarro, Bannon, Pottinger, and Pompeo, the hammers on the virus are all sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party.
Immediately, four minutes into the administration.
Why?
Dr. Peter Navarro spent time over there.
Dr. Peter Navarro's made films over there.
Dr. Peter Navarro understands China, understands their bioweapons program, understands what was happening at the Wuhan lab.
He understood how dangerous this was.
Tony Fauci, Joe, didn't.
Not just that, it's not that he didn't, he gave the exact opposite advice.
He said on the show on 23rd of January, sir, On WABC, on the John Katzman T-Show, there's nothing to worry about!
You have nothing to worry about!
And somebody said, well, that was January.
Well, hey, we were in mid-January saying, this is going to change the arc of human history.
Because the Chinese Communist Party does not shut down Hubei Province, the size of France, the population of France, and they do not put Wuhan, 40% bigger than New York City, under quarantine, unless they have a major problem.
Dr. Peter Navarro, I want you to comment first on Scarborough, and then you can take your analysis of Tony Fauci.
peter navarro
So, what caught my ear, Steve, was something that probably everybody else missed, okay?
But this is the granularity that's so good about the Bannon Show here.
What Scarborough said was that it was a total lie that Fauci killed people during the AIDS epidemic, okay?
Now, I hope you're watching this, Joe Scarborough, because you have to do your homework.
For your radio audience, I'm showing you the background today.
These four folks were heavily involved.
This is our Fauci man, okay?
What Tony Fauci did, and this is very well documented in several books, one by a guy named Sean Strub.
What Fauci did during the AIDS epidemic, he was effectively the AIDS czar.
He had the power to basically withhold drugs from AIDS patients.
And what he did, Steve, is the same thing that he did with hydroxychloroquine this time around.
He said that Because there were no randomized clinical trials for what then was a cocktail of drugs, that these folks could not use them.
And Sean Straub writes in a book, which has in the title, Body Count, the exact number of people that Dr. Anthony Fauci killed, Joe Scarborough killed, by withholding that because of his risk aversion.
And it was in the neighborhood of 13,000 Innocent gay people who couldn't get access to those drugs because of this guy here, Tony Fauci.
Joe, you need to do your homework.
Larry Kramer, one of the great gay HIV activists, called this man a murderer for what he did.
Steve, it's the same behavior that he did with hydroxychloroquine, which now, with every passing day, we're finding out is a wonderful therapeutic and prophylactic for the drug.
So, Joe Scarborough, you need to do your homework here.
We're not talking about lies about Fauci.
We're dealing in facts, data, and science, okay?
Now, all Jim Jordan was trying to get to the bottom of with Tony Fauci was what the metrics are for reopening the economy.
Our schools, our churches, our society, our culture, and getting back to some semblance of normal.
I've told you, Steve, that we'll never go back to where we were.
That normal's gone.
But we can open the economy, we can open our society, we can open our culture in a way which preserves Our First Amendment rights and our freedoms, that's all Jim Jordan was asking for.
What's, where do we draw the line?
It's like, how do you, what's your measurement?
What's your yardstick?
Is it the number of infections, hospitalizations, deaths, herd immunity?
What is it?
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on, hang on.
steve bannon
Whoa, stop.
What do you mean?
I just had Mike Cernovich.
I have tremendous respect for Mike Cernovich.
He falls out of flavor with a lot of people in the Trump movement because he starts bashing people and he's bashing the president.
But he's a tough guy.
He just said we're entering a new dark age.
I got Peter Navarro up here.
You just said we're never going back to the old ways.
We're never going back to normal.
What do you mean by that?
That's a news flash.
If we don't do that, the Chinese Communist Party has won.
So what are you talking about?
peter navarro
Let's start with the economy.
We have observed significant structural shifts in our economy whereby people have learned a new set of behaviors.
They've learned that Big cities aren't necessarily where you have to be to get your work done.
So we're seeing effectively a pandemic migration.
So that's not going back to where it was, even if we never had to worry about the pandemic again.
People have learned different behaviors, okay?
So that's done.
So that's going to affect all sorts of our economic sectors.
We're going to have to adapt to that.
I think that if you look at this virus and the way it's mutating, And what we're hearing from the various vaccine companies, it's pretty clear that this isn't a virus that's going to be totally eradicated like polio anytime soon.
More likely, what it's going to mean is that it's going to be like the flu vaccine every year, where they're going to try to... The way they do the flu vaccine, Steve, is like, and the reason why it's an imperfect tool, is that they don't know what strains are going to pop up the next year, right?
So they do two or three, and that's what they give you, and if they guess right, it's a good flu season.
If they guess wrong, it's a bad flu season.
We're going to have the same thing with this virus.
And by the way, I don't think we're ever going to be able to overcome that until we get to the origins of the virus.
And that gets back to Tony Fauci here, because he funded the Wuhan Virology Lab.
He approved gain-of-function to genetically engineer what effectively is a weaponized virus.
And there's a high likelihood that the virus came from the lab, so he's the father of that virus.
But even if we know all of that, we still don't know what they actually did.
Until we do know that, we can't really engineer the kind of vaccine and preventive measures We want.
So yeah, breaking news, Steve, the world has changed.
steve bannon
I'm going to drill down on all that, but I got that CNN interview.
I just want you to go back because you have a razor, you have a mind like a steel trap.
Second only to mine.
You picked out something I actually kind of missed.
Didn't miss it totally, but kind of missed it.
Fauci gave us the tip.
That this just didn't come from the lab.
Remember what he said about the virus, about how fully formed it was?
Correct?
I tell you what, let's take a commercial break.
Let's take a short commercial break.
We're going to talk about the railhead of this.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Congressional Budget Office told us back in June $16 trillion off the American economy.
The DNI under Joe Biden has told us it's the greatest, basically, catastrophe ever to hit the United States.
This virus, the Chinese Communist Party virus, is totally, has eviscerated American society, American finance, and our balance sheet.
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Okay, I want to go back to Dr. Peter Navarro.
This is what, it's the scale of this, ladies and gentlemen, that is so, and I think like we're going through our daily normal lives, or what passes as the new normal.
And we're just accepting this.
You're just accepting this.
And I think that's what Jim Jordan's frustration is for Fauci.
And Joe Scarborough lies.
He's not the messenger.
He's the chief medical officer.
And they've already turned over that decision-making at the White House.
The national security coordinator said the other night on the Johnson & Johnson, he says, well, we let the scientists, the scientists make the decisions.
J&J had this major decision about the vaccine.
They called the White House but didn't tell them what the content was.
It just says, we're going to make an announcement.
He said that from the podium.
They did not wake up.
They said they did not notify Joe Biden that night.
Next morning at 7 a.m., they just put it out.
So the scientists are making the decisions now.
Always under President Trump, he would take into consideration what the science says.
These are not messengers.
He's not some communications guy.
These are decisions.
And the frustration with Jordan is asking about herd immunity.
Does it include people besides the vaccines?
Because all these guys are talking about is vaccines, vaccines.
His answer was, we've got to get people vaccinated as much as possible.
Well, is that herd immunity or not?
And now Cernovich says we're heading into a new dark age.
Navarro just tells me we're never going back to the old ways.
You're going to have a new normal.
This has been catastrophic.
It's catastrophic on the balance sheet of the United States.
And you don't think that affects you?
Well, wait till the credit card interest payments start exploding.
Wait till the variable rate mortgages start exploding.
Wait till you can't buy a car because that's exploding.
Because of inflation and higher interest rates, because now it's trillion upon trillion upon trillion upon trillion.
As far as the eye can see, this doesn't stop anytime soon.
The Congressional Budget Office said $16 trillion off the American economy.
DNI saying it's the biggest catastrophe ever to hit the United States.
Ever.
Dr. Peter Navarro.
And what gets me is nobody sitting there going, hey, shouldn't we think about where this came from?
You can't get a solution.
And no, it didn't come from a bat cave down on the Laos border in southern China.
Maybe the original they took into the lab.
Right?
Maybe they had some animals in there, but this was juiced up called gain-of-function, or as Betsy McCoy in New York, the former lieutenant governor, says, hey, you and Navarro, you got this, you're talking scientific fancy lingo, gain-of-function.
It's weaponizing a virus.
That's what they were doing.
They were weaponizing a virus.
Dr. Navarro.
peter navarro
Steve, it is interesting.
I get a lot of feelings sometimes that it's the ballroom of the Titanic and the band's playing on.
It's the same phrase they used during the AIDS crisis when things were going literally south.
And there's just a lot of things going wrong now in the Biden administration.
There's a lot of things going wrong on Wall Street.
I mean, I was watching Stuart Varney today on Fox Business.
I watched the beginning of it, and it was the most bullish rhetoric I've heard since 1999.
I felt like I was in a Prince song.
And I'm thinking to myself, there's so much, so many termites in the house from this vaccine.
And I get back to the Bannon point.
This is the key point, Steve.
The reason why we need to get to the origin of the virus.
And the reason why we need to know whether Fauci was the guy who funded that and did the genetic engineering approval on it is because unless you know exactly what they did to weaponize that virus, you're not going to be able to change it.
Look, there's scenarios out there.
It's been a godsend that our young children have not been heavily affected at all by this virus.
If we get a mutation now that starts hitting our younger people after they've been out of school for a year, that would be catastrophic.
It's possible.
Do we know if it's going to happen?
Well, we'd know a lot better if the Chinese Communist Party hadn't burned all the evidence at the Wuhan lab.
And let us know kind of what exactly what they did.
So my point here, it's not gloom and doom.
That's not what I do.
But what I do is like see the chessboard.
Let's prepare for what we're moving towards.
And I think, you know, what the Jim Jordan question is, what are the metrics to open up this economy?
Not just the economy, but our culture, our society, our ballparks, our churches.
Everything in between, particularly our schools, Steve.
I feel so bad for these kids, particularly in the lower income neighborhoods, the deplorable neighborhoods that are falling further and further behind.
So, you know, there's just a lot of unanswered questions.
And again, This guy here, Tony Fauci, he has not been truthful, Joe Scarborough.
It's legitimate to ask this man, Joe Scarborough, why did you fund the Wuhan lab?
Why did you approve gain-of-research function in 2017, knowing full well that that could create a dangerous pathogen that could cause a global pandemic?
And why are you not telling the American people what the metrics are For how we're going to succeed in this economy and society.
And we need to know that, Steve.
We just need to know that.
steve bannon
Here's one thing.
When people say, why is Lancet?
Why are these other scientists?
Why are they back in?
Here's the thing.
In this new religion they have called scientism, right?
Where science is above everything.
It's not science, as we know, with hypothesis and evidence and data.
And you check that.
It's science as a new religion, right?
That's where they hit you with the mantra on the Sanjay Gupta.
Five times he said, and science came to the rescue, right?
But it's always data-based, evidence-based, science-based.
So the high priest of that, It's Tony Fauci, by the way.
That's why he's kicking off the Vatican Conference on Mind, Body, and Soul.
Who's the kickoff keynote speaker?
Good old Tony Fauci, right?
Scientism.
And this is why he's the high priest.
And what they want to do, the reason they're so adamant that it couldn't be from Wuhan, it couldn't be the lab, none of these scientists, they think as soon as they let the crazies like Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro have a forcing function, force into that lab, That it's over for them.
That means every lab in the world is open, right?
You're going to have these nutcase populists and nationalists from Bolsonaro, to Salvini, to Le Pen, to Farage, Orban, Trump's posse, the gang of the people that breathed through them, as Joe Scarborough said, coming out of the cave and now they're going to the high temple of the research lab.
Right?
So the high priest cast of Tony Fauci, and you saw Fauci, he didn't get snippy, he got nasty.
He got nasty yesterday with Jordan because Jordan wouldn't let him maneuver, wouldn't let him do the spin he always does, right?
With all happy talk and the moving of the hands, he never has any...
Numbers to back it up, right?
Numbers to back it up.
So you've worked with this guy, Peter.
He needs to be pressed.
peter navarro
He's arrogant, Steve.
That's the problem.
I go back to that January 28th, 2020 meeting in the Situation Room, where I'm sitting in front of somebody who I didn't know who he was, right?
I just took his measure based on his presentation.
And what you and I knew at the time was that there was a dangerous virus in Wuhan that could cause a pandemic.
You and I knew that.
Neither one of us are virologists, but you and I knew that.
The guy sitting across the table from me, who I didn't know the name of, didn't know that.
And he was saying that travel bans don't work.
And if he had been listened to by Donald J. Trump instead of me, Hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of Americans would have died.
Full stop.
steve bannon
Hang on.
Full stop.
unidentified
Hold on.
steve bannon
Full stop with you for a second.
When you did that memo, when you did that memo, roughly the number you said, if you followed Fauci's advice, That was going to be a couple million by the end of 2020?
peter navarro
Yeah, over a million people and over $2 trillion worth of damages.
And it was interesting because I'm in that room and Mulvaney's giving me a hard time.
He's a virus denier.
Azar, Redfield, they're siding with Fauci.
But Fauci was clearly the leader in the room.
And I walked out of there so pissed off.
That I went and read, wrote that memo the next day.
It was what we call in economics, strategic game theory.
It's like, hey, you got some scenarios and probabilities here.
Probabilities pretty high that we're going to get a pandemic, because you can't, I mean, it's just, it's sheer math.
Once that thing gets outside the Wuhan borders, China could have kept it in, they didn't.
Once it gets out, it's just a matter of time.
So I wrote that memo, sent it to the task force the next day.
They could not cover their asses anymore.
They flipped on a dime.
They read that thing.
Their hair was on fire.
They covered their ass.
And President Trump got what he wanted.
I had been sent there by him on the 28th to deliver the task force.
I failed on the 28th, but by the 29th, those folks became cheerleaders for the travel ban.
But the thing is, Fauci...
I want to stress this.
Arrogant.
He was an arrogant S.O.B.
who did not understand basic economics.
He would not listen.
He thought he was friggin' God.
And every time I see him with his passive-aggressive St.
Fauci-esque thing, I think about this.
This guy funded the Wuhan lab.
He authorized, behind the back of the Trump administration, by the way, he authorized genetically engineering a dangerous pathogen.
And people like Morning Joe and Mika and everybody on CNN are afraid now to ask him any kinds of questions about that.
And it's coming now.
It's coming soon.
People will not be able to avoid this.
steve bannon
Peter, hang on.
I gotta hold you over the break.
By the way, you can see it's coming.
Chris Hayes the other night.
Hayes' eyes.
That worried look.
He goes, oh my god.
This guy's a spinmeister.
Short break.
Back with Navarro.
Mike Lindell is also going to join us in the War Room in a second.
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Okay, Dr. Pena, we're going to get Mike Lindell up.
We've got a couple of guests for the War Room.
Just have him come in and take a seat.
As long as they stay out of camera range, as long as they stay on my beautiful shot, I don't care.
Dr. Peter Navarro, before we get Lindell on here, I've got to bring up one thing.
After you have this meeting, and people have got to understand, the Situation Room is the secret compartment down below the White House itself and the West Wing.
When you're having this confrontation on the 27th, you go back and do a memo, you run a bunch of numbers, you know, you go full Harvard on them, right?
Numbers, analysis, all this, you've got a memo, detail, you make the case, you have all that, and they see it and they freak out.
But they don't have any counter numbers.
They see the numbers, they have no counter to that.
Here's the reason.
They wouldn't do any work.
If Tony Fauci is evidence-based, data-based, and science-based, where is his rebuttal?
Dr. Tony Fauci, we would like to see your rebuttal to Peter Navarro on the 28th of January, the year of our Lord, 2020, when Dr. Peter Navarro gave you a memo and said, hey, I heard you talking the other day in the Situation Room.
Your program is going to end up with a million-plus dead Americans, okay?
And here's my analysis.
Show me what you got.
He got nothing.
Where's Tony Fauci's work?
If you're so science-based, evidence-based database, here's the thing.
The whole time, it's been nothing but spin.
I, for months and months and months in 2020, said for Redfield and these guys, why are we dealing with Johns Hopkins numbers?
Why are we dealing with the University of Washington's numbers?
Why are we dealing with this?
There's fine, but that's like research guys on Wall Street.
Where is the set of math from Tony Fauci, and where's the set of math from Redfield, the CDC?
Where is it?
Never seen it.
Don't see it now.
What Jim Jordan's asking is a basic question.
What's the theory of the case?
Is it herd immunity?
Right?
If it's herd immunity, what's the calculation?
Does that include people that have had the virus plus the people that get vaccines?
Or if you had the virus because of these new variants, that doesn't count.
That ought to be explained to the American people and what these variants mean, where they come from, and how they're getting in here to the good old United States of America.
peter navarro
Dr. Navarro, Two things.
Fauci's argument in the Situation Room on the 28th was travel bans don't work.
Okay, Tony, show me the data.
He had nothing on that.
But the worst part about Fauci is not just that he doesn't have any of the data.
It's that his mind selectively screens whatever's out there in order to So, back in the AIDS epidemic, there was a lot of scientific evidence that showed this one cocktail of medicine worked to help people live if they got pneumonia, which is what killed most people from AIDS.
Fauci would not parse that, and over 13,000 people died.
Because of Tony Fauci, that's blood on his hands.
Same thing with hydroxychloroquine.
I mean, the case for hydroxy is overwhelming now, but it was then, at the time, there was plenty of evidence.
But he wouldn't look at it.
So Steve, he doesn't do his homework, but he also won't look at anything That's conflicting with his own worldview.
The other thing, the other flaw with Fauci, besides the arrogance and hubris of thinking that this guy here could let the Chinese have a technology that weaponized viruses,
Is that he embraces this randomized clinical trial as the gold standard to say no to a whole bunch of stuff, and then he'll do things like, with remdesivir, change the endpoints of the study in a way to rush it to market.
I mean, he's just one big contradiction.
As Jim Jordan shows, he's also unwilling to answer even the most basic and important question for American families right now who want to send their kids to school, who want to go to church on Sundays, and who want to maybe go out to a restaurant every once in a while so they don't have to be stuck in their kitchen all the time, where they have for the last year.
And Fauci, he's got nothing.
unidentified
He says, where's the data, where's the science, where's the science?
peter navarro
No, no, no, no.
This guy is nothing but a bag of hot air.
He's the Wizard of Oz, Steve.
There's blood on his hands, dating back to the AIDS epidemic, Joe Scarborough.
Last thing, Steve.
I'm more than happy to go on Joe Scarborough and debate all of those folks on there.
I'll go talk to John Berman on CNN or Chris Cuomo, whatever.
It's time, MSNBC.
It's time, CNN, for you to start asking the questions.
That respectable and respected news organizations would ordinarily ask.
The election's over.
It's time, Steve, for the truth.
It's time for the truth.
And the truth is, this guy here, Fauci, has blood on his hands because of who he is and what he can and cannot do.
steve bannon
Here's the issue.
Dr. Peter Navarro, you brought up the other day the T-word.
OK, the reason we need to get to the railhead in Wuhan and find out exactly what went on, exactly what went on.
Number one, we've got to get to the all the original research, everything that was going on there to understand really the makeup of this virus, to be able to finally put this whole thing to bed.
OK, number one.
Number two, it's about who's responsible and who should be held accountable.
OK, we've had economic destruction.
And you think it's bad in the United States?
Some of these countries are never going to recover.
Look at Italy.
I don't know if Italy is ever going to recover.
And some of these other countries in the second world and the third world will ever recover.
Their economies are never going to recover.
peter navarro
Northern Italy has certainly been dealt a death blow.
There's no question about that, Steve.
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Death blow?
steve bannon
Death blow.
So you said the T word, which is torts, right?
Who's responsible if you have to go to court?
But I've got to tell you, I am no lawyer and I don't play one on TV.
I ruled out going to law school a long time ago, right?
There has got to be, particularly if they continue to cover for bald-faced lies and misrepresentations, there is going to come a time when somebody here has got to start being held accountable.
We're not conspiracy theory guys.
We're the farthest thing from that.
Joe Scarborough, go have your staff look.
We talked about gain-of-function experiments in the first show here.
We had Dr. Steven Hatfield sit right here.
Walk me through all the nomenclature.
Gain-of-function is like the fifth thing he talked about.
Right?
We talked about that over a year ago.
We've been on this over a year and knew about the memos and everything that was going on in the big fights in the White House versus people who are putting forth evidence and people who are spinning.
Dr. Peter Navarro is putting through data and evidence and science base and Tony Fauci and others are spinning.
And here's the tell with Fauci.
Fauci, show me your memo.
Show me your analysis.
Let's go to your computer.
I want to see the spreadsheets for the 28th of January, when Peter Navarro gave you a memo and said, hey, it's a million dead playing by your game, so show me what you got.
You said there's no change here.
Then show me.
What do you got?
Where's your analysis?
Pull it up.
Pull it up.
Have Joe Scarborough pull it up.
I've had him in a congressional hearing.
I don't want to hear you talk anymore.
I want to see what you did.
I want to see your work.
I want to see your numbers.
I want to see what you told, and we're going to match it to what you told the American people.
This is not conspiracy theory.
This is basic 101 due diligence and fiduciary responsibility.
Dr. Fauci, you said 500,000 dead.
There would have been millions dead if we'd followed your program.
The reason we only had 500,000 dead, you followed Dr. Peter Navarro's program.
Right?
So where's your analysis?
Where's your memo?
Where's your spreadsheets?
And give me the daytime group when it came out of your computer.
Don't be making it up now.
I want to see it from back in January.
I want to see it from February.
I want to see it from March.
When you go in that time, I think it was in February, you said, oh, my Chinese colleagues would never not give us the right information.
He says this, I think, on CNN back in February.
No, we talk to our Chinese colleagues every day.
Oh, you do?
Oh, you do.
So they must have told you about the community spread and the human-to-human transmission, sir.
No, they did not.
You know why?
They were lying.
Why?
They're under the orders of the Chinese Communist Party and the PLA.
They don't have freedom to sit there and Tony give you what they got.
That's why they're suppressing it now.
You cannot get past this carnage until you get to the railhead of exactly what happened.
And we're fooling ourselves.
This is not the way a great nation works.
This is not about politics.
This is not Republican or Democrat.
This is about America and the rest of the world.
We've had genocide.
Look at the rest of the world.
You think America's in bad shape?
Look at the rest of the world.
And they're never going to recover like they were.
And who's going to pay for this?
You know who's going to pay for it?
Tonight.
Look at the little kids on the floor crawling around.
Look at your grandchildren.
That's who's going to pay for it.
Look at what we put on the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve.
You think that's just going to magically go away?
The Chinese Communist Party is now going to do, because the dollar is going to get so destroyed, they're now going to do a crypto-backed yawn.
Because they said, hey, we can't take any more of these dollars.
Right?
One, we can destroy the United States, but number two, we just can't do it.
Because these guys are printing them as fast as the printing machines go.
Dr. Navarro.
peter navarro
Steve, the... Morning Joe, like Monday when I'm on the show, Cold open.
Let's pull up the clip where Morning Joe actually patted me on the back for writing that memo warning people on that January 28th about the possibility of a pandemic.
The only reason why Joe was doing that was he could say, ah, someone in the White House was saying that, but the president ignored it.
Well, I was doing that for the president, to be clear, Joe.
But my point is, Joe, that occasionally you have moments of lucidity where you see the truth.
Joe, I need you to see the truth here.
This is an important moment.
I'm happy to come on your show.
This guy here, Tony Fauci, This is not conspiracy.
We're not attacking him for partisan reasons.
This man really, and Steve, Fauci is really the key to unlocking the whole secret of how to defeat this virus.
He helped create it.
We need to get to the bottom of where it came from at the lab.
And it's science and it's data.
We need to take him at his own word.
And all of these changes that are happening in our economy, I've got another memo for you.
It's going to be at least a full year's GDP of damages when we file that tort, that lawsuit.
And that's just compensatory, not punitive, okay?
More than $20 trillion worth of damages, and I can go over them the next time we talk.
steve bannon
You heard it from Dr. Peter Novarro.
We're going to do this on Monday.
By the way, tomorrow, Josh Rogin is going to be here.
Josh Rogin, the great reporter, best source reporter in this town about the Chinese Communist Party and everything China from the Washington Post, okay?
He's going to be in studio for an entire hour, the first hour tomorrow.
To follow up on his Megyn Kelly interview, to get into the details.
He's saying, hey, look, you know, I'm a guy that follows this all the time.
The media's got to stop covering for Fauci.
We need answers.
We need answers.
We don't need spin.
We're in April of 2021.
And folks, you tell me it's getting any better.
The Biden administration's freaking out right now.
Peter, real quickly, 30 seconds.
What are your social media coordinates?
peter navarro
Admiral Real P. Navarro at Twitter.
And look, shame on Twitter for what they did to Project Veritas.
This stuff is so important.
We've got to have truth in the media.
So wean yourself from Twitter.
But for now, Real P. Navarro.
And download my reports on election irregularities and the border at PeterNavarro.com.
PeterNavarro.com.
steve bannon
You're a good man.
peter navarro
Admiral, I'm looking forward to Rogan tomorrow.
That man is on fire and he is raising this question about Tony Fauci getting to the truth.
I'm looking forward to Rogan tomorrow.
steve bannon
We'll see you Monday on the show.
We'll see you on Monday on the show.
Be back with Linda in a minute.
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steve bannon
Okay, I know tomorrow's a Saturday, but this is dealing with you, your family, your life, your country, all of it.
Tomorrow morning, one hour, 10 o'clock, one hour with Josh Rogin in studio where he's going to go through the whole Tony Fauci, the Wuhan lab, the Chinese Communist Party, the author of Chaos Under Heaven.
He's not a pro-Trump guy, he's not an anti-Trump guy, he's at the Washington Post, best source lawyer in town.
He wrote this great book.
If you want to see President Trump as a statement, get Chaos Under Heaven.
Also, the second hour, 11 o'clock.
Dr. Naomi Wolf, we're going to replay that interview about vaccine passports.
So many people want it.
Parts of it are going viral.
You've got to hear it from start to finish.
She says, hey, look, this is the hill to die on.
If we allow these vaccine passports to go in, it's over.
It's a social credit score like the Chinese Communist Party.
Do we have Mike Lindell?
We don't have Mike Lindell yet.
The only thing that stopped Mike Lindell is a weak signal, right?
Otherwise, that honey badger extraordinaire.
Make sure you go to, by the way, MyPillow.com, type in promo code War Room, support Lindell, the MyPillow company, and also Lindell himself in the War Room.
So Mike Lindell, the reason we're getting him on, he's in Tulsa.
I think there's a Freedom Conference.
I heard they had like 5,000 seats or 5,000 missions.
They got 100,000.
A request for admission.
The thing's on fire.
Guess what they're talking about?
Our favorite topic.
They're also talking about the CCP virus and this pandemic.
But principally out there, they're talking about the voter fraud November 3rd and all the taking of civil liberties that have happened since then.
This is the burning issue of the day.
Remember, The optics here are looking so bad now for Joe Biden and particularly this crisis he's initiated at the border.
And one of the reasons the crisis they're freaking out is the Brazilian variant, yes, that's coming up through the southern border.
So what have they done?
They've now gone back, Joe Biden, Joe Biden today, he's agreed with Stephen Bannon and Stephen Miller on the refugee situation.
Not that we don't, not that we are not caring about refugees, but we're in a crisis.
OK, we're in a crisis.
We've got to get our hands around this.
Right.
That's right.
The border.
It was zero tolerance.
It was remain in Mexico.
And it's get a deal with the frontline nations down the southern border.
Why is that?
Because if you don't, the cartels will run northern Mexico and they will run the border and they will run the counties on the on the American side of the border.
Who tells us that?
Oh, just some random people.
Customs and Border Agents.
Eighty five percent Hispanic.
They said to go.
These guys will run it in the high margin business today.
Remember the high margin.
Forget marijuana, all the stuff.
They got two businesses that the margins have never been higher.
Human trafficking.
OK, this is getting people across the border.
Right.
But as a subset of that, the really high margin business is sex trafficking.
OK, they know that huge margins in that.
The other business is the fentanyl, OK?
The fentanyl.
Every town's a border town.
And this is just not the Biden administration.
We're going to ship the people coming across the border, the illegal aliens everywhere across the country.
This is the cartels.
This is the cartels taking charge.
Since 1929, the Chicago Crime Commission has never had a public enemy, number one.
The last guy they had was a guy named Al Capone during Prohibition.
What was it, a couple of years ago, 2015, 2016?
El Chapo was public enemy number one for the first time, what, in 70, 80 years, 90 years?
Why?
Because the gang wars in streets of Chicago were driven by the Mexican cartels.
unidentified
Why?
steve bannon
They're fighting over fentanyl, meth, all these high margin businesses.
This is what we've allowed down there.
And now you have, and the reports from John Solomon and others, are now that the Chinese Tongs, which are the gangs, and the CCP, which is nothing more than a transnational criminal organization, don't ask me that.
Ask Lao Bai Jing, ask old hundred names, ask the people in Wuhan and the people in Hubei province, under the boot of these dictators, the Chinese people, the Chinese nation, Or is the number one victim of the Transnational Criminal Organization, which is the Chinese Communist Party.
That group is responsible for this virus.
Not the Chinese people.
There's not a Kung Flu.
There's not a China Flu.
That's not from the Chinese people.
There's nothing about the Chinese people.
They're our allies.
Remember, you have the greatest civilization, one of the greatest civilizations on Earth.
They were an advanced scientific civilization, cultural civilization.
When we, the Judeo-Christian West, we're living in caves in Europe.
And after 10 or 15,000 years, they don't have democracy, they don't have freedom.
India's got, what, a billion people, a billion and one people, 800 million people vote.
Takes them a month to count it up.
Biggest democracy in the world.
At the end of the day, Modi wins.
Hey!
Other guys lose, they work together.
It's not perfect, but it works.
That's India.
Look at China.
Nothing.
A firewall.
Complete suppression of the Chinese people.
And we've kind of acquiesced to it.
You're in your cave today.
You're wearing a mask today.
You're in your house.
Your kids are not in school.
You're not playing March Madness with nobody in the stands.
There's no football.
There's no baseball.
There's no culture.
Kids have missed their senior years in high school and in college.
There's nothing cultural we're doing.
The economy's been devastated.
The balance sheet of the Federal Reserve will have decades and decades and decades before we recover from this.
unidentified
And what do we do?
steve bannon
Oh, yeah, you know this.
Why don't you tell you what am I doing here?
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All at each other's throats.
steve bannon
Look at Mr. George Floyd.
Look at the fentanyl.
He had COVID.
He had fentanyl from China.
COVID from the CCP.
No manufacturing job.
Why?
Because Wall Street had shipped his job overseas.
Look how his life, you say race him, but look how his life was structured by what we've done in kowtowing to the Chinese Communist Party.
And yet today, on the 16th of April, oh, you know, let's get $2 trillion here, let's reset, let's build back better.
Let Tony Fauci sit there and let Morning Joe say it's all lies, it's all conspiracy.
No, there is no conspiracy, sir, but there are no consequences.
So here's what we want from Dr. Fauci.
Show us Your response to Peter Navarro's memo on the 27th of January.
Show us your analysis, show us the numbers, show us why when he put down the paper and said a million deaths, you freaked.
Because you knew you had a guy that's not going to take your spin.
Well, guess what?
We're not taking your spin anymore.
Every day you're getting more and more boxed in.
You got nasty the other day?
Well, sir, you're going to have to get a lot nastier, okay?
Because we're going to box you in.
You're going to be held accountable and everybody that propped you up from Morning Joe to CNN to the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, all of them are going to be held accountable.
Guess we didn't get Mike Lindell.
Didn't get the Honey Badger.
Extraordinary.
Anyway, go to his site to get the new thing, Frank.
The whole Franken-speech starts.
The whole, what, 48 hours?
Continuous starts on Monday morning.
We'll be back tomorrow morning.
Josh Rogan will be in the War Room.
Thank you very much.
I guess we had a full one hour rant today.
This is special.
Okay, thank you, Master Cameron Wallace.
Juggling a few balls there.
Pretty good.
Two shows in the afternoon.
With no help, I might add.
Okay.
We will see you tomorrow morning, 10am.
Josh Rogan for an hour.
Doctor Naomi Wolf for the second.
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