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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
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Pandemic. | ||
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham. | ||
From our nation's capital, I want to welcome you. | ||
You're in the War Room. | ||
It is Saturday, the 3rd of April, the year of our Lord 2021. | ||
It is Holy Saturday, one of the not just holiest, but most solemn days of the year in the Christian calendar. | ||
And I want to welcome all of our all of our listeners and viewers throughout the world, particularly As we are simulcast in Mandarin and blown out to the diaspora of the Chinese people, the diaspora, 250 million throughout the world, and of course later in the day through the firewall into mainland China to the Lao Beijing that are yearning to be free. | ||
And I think they understand that every day we are there to assist them in their quest for freedom. | ||
Today is a special that we often do on Saturday. | ||
This is one that we're very proud of and putting together on a topic that we've been working on relentlessly over the last several months and really years, but now bringing it to the forefront because we think it's time that, as only the war room can do, is put it onto the agenda that needs to be discussed, deconstructed, | ||
Talked about and then decisions have to be made the title of our special today is descent into hell Transhumanism in the new human race and we've got a number of experts that are come in today and and discuss with you What exactly is transhumanism? | ||
How so important and what is exactly happening? | ||
And what is that? | ||
There have been a number of books recently, but particularly the New York Times' number one bestseller, Codebreaker, about Jennifer Doudna, who's the professor, the doctor at Berkeley, that won the Nobel Prize in 2020 for Gene, editing that book by Walter Isaacson. | ||
Walter Isaacson is from the Aspen Institute, a very prominent writer. | ||
I think he's the former editor-in-chief at Time Magazine. | ||
The book is Codebreaker. | ||
Jennifer Doudna, Gene Editing in the Future of the Human Race. | ||
The future of the human race. | ||
Actually, Dr. Doudna wrote a couple of years ago, A Crack in Creation, Gene Editing in the Unthinkable Power to Control Evolution. | ||
This was her own book written in 2017 before she was awarded the Nobel Prize. | ||
A Crack in Creation, Gene Editing in the Unthinkable Power to control evolution. | ||
And that's what we're talking about. | ||
We're talking about the ability to transcend man. | ||
In fact, one of the books that got me started on this, it was introduced by a filmmaker a number of years ago, was Yuval Harari's, the Israeli historian, Homo Deus. | ||
Really, he came off of that great, I think, 10 million volume bestseller, Homo Sapien. | ||
He then did Homo Deus, a brief history Of Tomorrow. | ||
I recommend all three of those books as they are enlightening and also hair-raising about exactly what is going on here. | ||
One of the things we're trying to do is to make sure that the same forces that brought together globalization that just kind of happened to come together. | ||
And you've had this tremendous populist reaction to a populist rejection of it. | ||
The same forces that brought together globalization that not just in a personal way, but seemed that no one made conscious decisions about this, that that does not happen. | ||
In this next in this next phase, which is will be transhumanism. | ||
You know, we had Jerome Rivera on here from the National Rally, which is the new name for Front National, the major political party on the right in France of Marine Le Pen. | ||
And she will once again go against Macron, I think, in the spring of 2022 for the presidency. | ||
Right now, she's even in the polling. | ||
They had a conference. | ||
Last year, talk about certain trends, demographic trends, certain things that were happening in France that they should start to prepare for as they started thinking of elections down, down range. | ||
And they brought in a number of people to speak. | ||
One was a prominent investor, entrepreneur, also kind of a philosopher in the biotech area and his opening statement to their conference. | ||
Remember, Front National, National Rally, is very much the deplorables of France. | ||
It's a very much Trump-like Party with many many working-class people and his first statement was Enhanced man is eternal man an eternal man has already been born he was talking about the generation of the generation that was That's on earth today, not the greatest generation or not the boomers, but the generation right in back of it about what it happened. | ||
So I want to bring in our first guest is a prominent technologist on the right and the CEO of really one of the most cutting-edge companies. | ||
That would be Andrew Torba, the CEO of Gab. | ||
He's also someone who is deeply, if you follow him on Gab or anywhere, you know he's deeply religious and very Very spiritual guy. | ||
Andrew, I want to thank you for joining us on Holy Saturday, as we discussed this very important issue, not just for people that believe in the Judeo-Christian West, not just for Jews and Christians out there, but I think for everybody on earth. | ||
I just want to start off, we had you on a couple of weeks ago in a tighter time frame, but I'd just like you to go through, since you are, I think, among people in the Trump movement and that are associated with the right, People consider you probably one of our top two or three people understand not just social media, but the whole underpinnings of social media, the algorithms and the technology that need to be done, and that you've worked in Silicon Valley, and you really know the ethos out there. | ||
So can you just walk our audience through? | ||
When we talk about transhumanism, I want to take the science fiction aspect of it. | ||
What do we mean by transhumanism? | ||
And what are these technologies that are coming together that are going to converge to really make, as Yuval Harari says, something that transcends Homo sapiens, really post-Homo sapien man? | ||
So in the simplest terms, Steve, transhumanists believe in using technology to transcend beyond the limitations of human biology. | ||
into what they call a post-human existence. | ||
So, you know, this is the inevitable endgame of secular humanism. | ||
We are in the battle for humanity, literally here. | ||
And this is a battle of good and evil. | ||
The one thing that the oligarchs and that the globalists fear is death. | ||
So they are racing against the clock to, the biological clock, to try to find some sort of solution to become gods. | ||
And this is nothing new, Steve. | ||
Since the beginning of time, we go back to the book of Genesis where Adam and Eve, you know, bite the forbidden fruit in an attempt to essentially become God, and this is no different. | ||
And, you know, God punished Adam and Eve, and I think that he's going to punish the oligarchs for some of the wickedness that they're doing right now. | ||
Some of these technologies are, you know, unfolding right before our eyes. | ||
It sounds like science fiction. | ||
A lot of us are familiar with the concept of transhumanism from different movies and different TV shows, but this is stuff that's happening right now today. | ||
You have Peter Thiel, who's injecting young blood of younger people into his body. | ||
You have Elon Musk, who's putting brain chips in pigs in an attempt to inevitably get those brain chips in himself and in other people. | ||
You have all these human gene editing, the stuff that you were discussing earlier. | ||
So there's a lot of different layers to this, right? | ||
Some of it is chips in your brain, like that level of transhumanism. | ||
But then we also have the other level, which is biological. | ||
It's editing the genome. | ||
It's playing God in the womb and things of this nature. | ||
This all culminates together under this big umbrella of transhumanism. | ||
And the end goal is for them to become gods and to have some more control over us and over humanity in general. | ||
So it's something that's very real. | ||
It's something that's going to happen in our lifetimes and in my lifetime, certainly in my children's lifetime. | ||
So it's important that we discuss it right now. | ||
And we have, you know, these ethical and moral discussions today before we get to the point where It's too late to have those discussions. | ||
And you know, these chips are in the brains of millions of people are in the brains of very powerful people who, who essentially now become eternal gods and have access to, you know, all the knowledge that's on the internet, all the information that's on the internet in real time, you know, with processing powers that our brains can't even really comprehend. | ||
So this is this stuff is it sounds bizarre, it sounds outlandish, but it's stuff that You know, this is where big tech guys and the oligarchs and the globalists, this is where they're putting their money because that's the one thing they fear. | ||
Again, they fear death because they don't have the faith that we have. | ||
They don't believe in the human being and humanity. | ||
They believe that they're superior to the rest of us. | ||
So this is what they're pumping, you know, their billions of dollars into is extending their life and living eternally and essentially becoming gods. | ||
That's the whole umbrella of transhumanism in a short nutshell here. | ||
I want to go back before, you know, talk about those types of issues. | ||
Just because you're a technologist, it's the convergence of this. | ||
The concept was a technological singularity. | ||
You would converge on a point, and beyond that point was something totally different. | ||
You've had, what, 100,000 years or 200,000 years of primates of Homo sapiens, right? | ||
On Earth. | ||
I think there's been someone once told me, I think that scientists think there's been like 110 billion to 120 billion humans that lived on Earth on the time that we've actually been been here. | ||
But it's the convergence of these technologies. | ||
You have advanced chip design. | ||
You have robotics and now replicant robotics, right, where the robots themselves can actually make a better machine, right, taking out the human error in that. | ||
You have not just artificial intelligence, but artificial general intelligence, which is take AI, the same concept, to take that up to another level. | ||
And now you have not just biotechnology, but really what Dr. Doudna and others found with RNA was the ability to actually edit genes, edit the DNA code, the actual code of life, and do it fairly simply and fairly effectively. | ||
And so it's the convergence of those, and each individual vector is moving at incredibly rapid speed, but all to converge. | ||
I just want to give the audience You know, your assessment of how advanced we are in all four of those vectors, which will, there's other technologies too, don't get me wrong, but those four lead vectors are what are all going to converge essentially on a point in time when they can all literally take Homo sapiens to the next level. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I mean, Facebook is working on this right now. | ||
Facebook is working on what they call brain tech, human brain interface technology. | ||
Where, you know, they can basically tap into your brain and read your mind. | ||
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This is, again, this sounds bizarre, but this stuff is being studied. | |
They have the technology for that stuff right now. | ||
I still think that we're probably a decade or two off, you know, that we talk about the 2045 initiative, where that is where their kind of general goal is for the singularity that you're discussing. | ||
I don't have as much familiar with the biological side, with the gene editing and that side of things. | ||
In terms of the technology side, the hardware side, the artificial intelligence side, you talked about machine learning, this stuff is all being perfected right now on platforms like Facebook. | ||
So they're perfecting artificial intelligence, they're perfecting machine learning on this software that we're all using, and they're using us really as their lab rats to perfect that technology. | ||
So that is happening right now. | ||
That part of it is pretty well accelerated, and it has been over the past 10 years. | ||
But when you add that in, you add in the artificial intelligence and the machine learning into an implanted chip into your brain, suddenly you have access to all the knowledge in the world in real time, you know, with a processing power that most of us can't even comprehend in the mind of one person. | ||
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So that is incredibly powerful. | ||
It's something that we should really be discussing. | ||
There's ethical, there's moral implications there. | ||
And then on top of that, you know, you have the DNA editing and all that sort of stuff on the biological side of this, which I don't know how far, you know, progressed we are. | ||
But, you know, we talk about even the COVID vaccine has some sort of mRNA, you know, gene editing involved. | ||
So, you know, this stuff obviously exists right now. | ||
And things are accelerating to a point where there is going to be this convergence, this singularity. | ||
When it's going to be is anyone's guess, but we need to start having these conversations right now, because it certainly is going to be within my lifetime, and again, my children's lifetime. | ||
So that's why I want to bring this topic up right now. | ||
This is what they are all obsessed over. | ||
While we're all obsessed over the nuances of day-to-day politics, they're obsessed over basically becoming eternal gods. | ||
Yeah, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
By the way, Dr. Doudna in her book and in Isaacson's book talk about, you know, you would never have gotten the vaccines this quickly. | ||
Remember Moderna and I think Pfizer, both of those are really RNA. | ||
They are essentially experimental gene therapies. | ||
They kind of fall into a broad category of vaccines, but they're really gene therapies as produced under the concept of Dr. Doudna. | ||
There was a Chinese scientist that actually edited War Room. | ||
themselves. He is in prison in China. The Chinese authorities actually put him in prison because he went too far. | ||
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Dr. Doudna warns about this all the time. OK, we take a short commercial break. | ||
Andrew Torba is, I guess, the CEO of Gab. Take a short commercial break. | ||
We'll return with this sent into hell. Transhumanism in the new human race. | ||
In a moment, War Room Pandemic. | ||
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Pandemic. | ||
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
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Talking about another fighter, we've got Andrew Torba, the CEO of Gab, and I think considered the top two or three young technologists from the Trump movement, from MAGA, from America First. | ||
Gab is a renowned site. | ||
Many, many of you in the War Room posse are on Gab, you know, constantly. | ||
Andrew, about Transhumanism, that's our special today, is descent into hell, transhumanism, and the new human race. | ||
And I realize this sounds like, you know, science fiction, and I actually talked to people in Washington, one of the reasons I'm so obsessed now with getting this concept out there and talking about the nomenclature, there are many, many, many people in Washington, D.C., people I know who are very smart and on top of everything in politics. | ||
When I mentioned this, they totally glass over. | ||
They have no earthy idea what I'm talking about, and they can't connect the dots between these different technologies. | ||
I want to go back so our audience can appreciate this. | ||
In their daily lives today, and this is what's going to lead to the singularity, and technology is picking up at an increasing rate, but in their own lives, since you've come from Silicon Valley, you have now a huge social media site. | ||
How is Today, people's own lives, to a large extent, depended upon and controlled by big data algorithms and machine learning. | ||
So big data is the new oil to Silicon Valley, right? | ||
And everybody's experience, when you pick up your phone and you search something on Google, your experience is going to be different than my experience. | ||
When you pick up your phone and you open up Facebook or you open up Twitter, your experience is going to be completely unique. | ||
It's going to be unlike anybody else's on the planet. | ||
And the reason for that is because of the amount of data that they have. | ||
They're processing it through various algorithms, machine learning, artificial intelligence, to provide you with the most personalized newsfeed, the most personalized results. | ||
And then, by the way, they're injecting political agendas into those results as well for all of us. | ||
But that is how we are driven. | ||
And we don't even realize it, but we are being socially conditioned. | ||
Facebook got caught conducting psychological experiments on groups of users and they admitted that they were doing this. | ||
They're still doing it right now, right? | ||
We don't realize that these algorithms and the amount of data that we're giving these companies is being used to manipulate and to control us. | ||
So in a lot of ways, the smartphone is version one, the beta test of transhumanism. | ||
And you say, well, that's absurd, right? | ||
I could put my phone down anytime. | ||
Well, go ahead and do it then, right? | ||
A lot of us have become so addicted and so enamored, especially the younger generation. | ||
They're spending 8 to 10 hours a day looking at their mobile devices. | ||
And it's going to become a lot easier once Facebook and others have this human brain machine interface where they can read the data from your brain all day long. | ||
Currently, they're limited to only the information that we provide or that they extract from behind your back. | ||
For example, a lot of these mobile applications are constantly Listening to your microphone, tracking your location, scanning your photos, watching what you're copying to your clipboard. | ||
All of this stuff is going on and nobody seems to care. | ||
Nobody seems to mind because of the convenience of being able to send a direct message to a family member or see a photo of someone in the family, right? | ||
We need to stop trading the convenience of these tools for literally the most intimate and private information, photos, Data in our lives your data has tremendous value to these oligarchs So we need to start respecting that and understanding that and and and and stop letting them socially condition us on a day-to-day basis With the amount of data that they have and with the algorithms that they're using to do so You know just to underscore that point the other day | ||
They had this brutal of video that somebody made off their cell phone about the Pakistani That the immigrant from Pakistan that come here was a uber each driver in Washington DC carjacked Was killed by two young people who had just stole the car drove it He was off inside the door slammed on him at a As the car rolled over and he lay dying in the street, One of the young girls, she was in a kind of a meltdown because she kept saying, hey, my phone's in the car. | ||
She was very focused on getting her phone, which was her top priority versus giving any aid to the individual. | ||
The guy died there on the streets. | ||
But it was very shocking. | ||
You had a human being sitting there. | ||
Really dying his last moments on earth and somebody was worried about their cell phone. | ||
Right. | ||
But I want to go back to the point. | ||
We've only got a few minutes left here. | ||
I want to go back to this concept of eternal life. | ||
You've worked out there in Silicon Valley. | ||
As you talk about these technologies and each one is going down, by the way, a lot of this is funded by your tax dollars. | ||
In fact, the audience understand you're funding basically all this. | ||
Either your tax dollars are funding it through DARPA and DOD programs or Your pension funds and your savings are the money, the lifeblood, the institutional investors, the big money managers that manage your pension funds put their money to work. | ||
So you're essentially, the Greek tragedy part of this is that you are essentially paying for this. | ||
Now, they use the rationale all the time, but look, we're going to cure Down Syndrome, we're going to cure all these genetic problems with gene editing, are artificial intelligence going to make us smarter, are you going to have behavioral modifications so all the meanness and anger of people will be taken away? | ||
And the conversion of this is only positive. | ||
However, when you talk to these individuals and you really push it, and they had an expose that Veritas did about Facebook, you see that essentially the oligarchs are interested in one thing and one thing only, and that is eternal life. | ||
They want to live forever, and they want to get it done within the lived experience of this generation, so they're part of that. | ||
I know you're a very religious, spiritual individual. | ||
Could you go into some depth on that? | ||
Yeah, I mean, that's the difference between us and them, right, Steve, is we believe in humanity. | ||
We believe in Jesus Christ. | ||
That is where we get our eternal life. | ||
You know, they are secular humanists, right? | ||
They are atheists. | ||
They are nihilists. | ||
They do not value human life, each individual human life, in the way that we do because of our faith and because of our biblical worldview. | ||
Their worldview as secular humanists is, you know, it's a dog-eat-dog world. | ||
They're at the top of the food chain right now, and they believe that they're superior to everybody else because they have all the data, they have all the money, they have all the technology, they have all the work power to build something like this and to get eternal life, which it sounds like hell to me. | ||
Living forever here on Earth sounds like hell to me, but it's something that they are obsessed with, mainly because it's one of the only things that they fear. | ||
They have all the money in the world, they have all the data in the world, they have You know, all the material things, which is inevitably what the secular humanism is all about, is the material world and having nice things and having money and having power and all this stuff. | ||
They have all that. | ||
But what they don't have is the guarantee of eternal life that we do as Bible-believing Christians, as people that believe in Jesus Christ. | ||
They don't have that. | ||
We have that assurance in our faith. | ||
They don't. | ||
So they're trying to manufacture it through the material world, through things like gene editing, through things like these brain chips and using artificial intelligence. | ||
And of course, they're guising it under, we're going to do so much good for humanity. | ||
It's not about, that's just an offset, right? | ||
That's a distraction. | ||
Their real motivation and their ultimate motivation is eternal life for themselves and eternal power for themselves. | ||
Because, you know, in their minds, the first The first group of human beings that transcends and that reaches the singularity and becomes post-human, they're going to rule forever. | ||
That's in their minds. | ||
That's why there's this big race. | ||
It's not the space race. | ||
It's the transhumanism race. | ||
The first couple of people that become transhuman are going to rule the world forever. | ||
That's their goal. | ||
It's a wicked goal. | ||
I'm sure that God's wrath will come down on them for this goal. | ||
Let me ask you, how can our audience, we have an activist audience, you're a technologist, you've lived in Silicon Valley, you know the mindset, how can the average person out there, how can they find out more about this? | ||
What would you recommend? | ||
Because first you have to learn about it and start to understand it and have your own mental map. | ||
Yes, some of those books that you recommended are great introductions to this topic. | ||
providing that information to people. What would you recommend? We got about two minutes. What would you recommend that the audience out there on a holy Saturday, as they, you know, the solemnity of a holy Saturday before the Christ rises on Easter Sunday morning, what would you recommend our audience they do? Yeah, some of those books that you recommended are great introductions to this topic. There's a lot of information out there, you know, just searching the web, scouring the web, looking for this type of stuff. | ||
And again, these people are not hiding this, right? | ||
Like, there's plenty of articles about this human brain interface that Facebook's working on, this chip that Elon Musk is embedding in the brains of pigs to do experiments with. | ||
You just have to, you know, pay attention to what's going on. | ||
The other thing that I want to talk about is the fact that we are funding this. | ||
And you talked about some of the ways through the pension funds and things of that nature, The other big way that we're funding this is by continuing to use these platforms. | ||
So when you're on Facebook, when you're on Twitter, you are their lab rat. | ||
You are feeding data and information to train their artificial intelligence, to train their machine learning, to get them one step closer to their transhumanism goal of becoming gods. | ||
So that's one big way that you can fight back against this is by Stop using those services. | ||
Stop giving them all your intimate data and your private information and your photos and everything, your location, everything else, right? | ||
That's one big way that you can fight back just as the average normal person. | ||
Andrew, we've got to bounce. | ||
How do people follow you on Gab? | ||
Gab.com forward slash A. Andrew Torber, thank you very much for taking time away from your family today to join us here in our special edition on transhumanism in the War Room. | ||
Thank you, sir. | ||
Always a pleasure, Steve. | ||
Thank you. | ||
OK, we're going to now pivot when we come back to Patrick Wood, a renowned author and one of the individuals that came up with this concept of technocracy. | ||
We're going to break it down so you can start to get your arms around a technocracy with Patrick Wood when we return on the transhumanist, transhumanism special here on The War Room. | ||
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Pandemic with Stephen K. Banham. | ||
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
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Pandemic. | ||
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
OK, welcome back to our Holy Saturday special. | ||
It is Saturday, the 3rd of April, the year of our Lord, 2021, and we're already through the first quarter of this year. | ||
Amazingly, just it's incredible how quickly this the time has the time has gone through here. | ||
I want to thank everybody for Joining us today on our special, this is a topic that we have talked about and actually had a couple of segments on. | ||
But as you can tell, this is really the launch point on something we get very serious about. | ||
We pride ourselves, whether it's populism, whether it's economic nationalism, whether it was the rise of the CCP as an existential threat to the American people, whether it was the rise of Trump or the pandemic. | ||
We pride ourselves in being years ahead of where things actually end up going. | ||
And here is another one. | ||
And now it's time that we've got to start to have serious discussions about this concept of transhumanism. | ||
We've got to break it down. | ||
People have to learn the nomenclature. | ||
You've got to understand process, critical path, aesthetics, and dynamics of all this. | ||
We intend to do it. | ||
This is kind of our kickoff show, but on The War Room, we're spending a lot of time on this, the individual technical verticals, technological verticals, also the biotech, all of it in the coming days, weeks, months, and years ahead. | ||
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In this concept of transhumanism, we want to go back in time to make sure you understand, because I gave this speech in Italy a couple of years ago where I talked about the reason I'm a populist is because of what happened in globalization. | ||
But the globalization was kind of this thing that just kind of came from these different forces. | ||
But it's leading to something, and I talked about transhumanism at that time, and people came up to me afterwards and said, you know, my mind's blown up. | ||
It's like too science fiction oriented. | ||
So I want to go back in time about exactly what happened over the last 40 or 50 years and how it came about where we are today. | ||
One of the best books that I've read and someone who I think understands us in not a conspiracy theory way, but in a very basic way. | ||
Because remember, we don't believe in conspiracy theories. | ||
I say there's no conspiracy, but there's no coincidences. | ||
And you can see that in the party of Davis. | ||
This is just the way the system works. | ||
So I want to bring in Patrick Wood, who's the author of Technocracy. | ||
He's kind of the father of this concept of technocracy. | ||
But Patrick, thank you very much for joining us today from Arizona. | ||
I do want to bring up that you kind of got your start in looking at the Trilateral Commission and really a guy named Richard Gardner. | ||
Who wrote an article, a very famous article in Foreign Affairs, which is considered, I guess, the monthly Bible of the global elites. | ||
A very famous publication. | ||
He wrote, I think the article was many, many decades ago, called, To world order. | ||
The hard road to world order. | ||
This was a very famous piece at the time, and you've spent a lot of time in that, and in fact had a number of articles that came out about it, and you eventually wrote books about technocracy and about this kind of new economic order that was coming about. | ||
So I'd like you to walk us through exactly what is technocracy, before we talk about transhumanism, what is technocracy, and how did we arrive at this place today? | ||
Well, you're absolutely right about Richard Gardner's article that appeared in Foreign Affairs Magazine. | ||
He was one of the founding members of the Trilateral Commission in 1973 that was founded by David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski. | ||
The two of them were kind of the beauty and the beast, but there was a sea change that took place in the early 1970s. | ||
And Richard Gardner really was kind of the fountainhead of the idea that was floating around in the Trilateral Commission. | ||
And what he had actually written, just in part, he said, in short, the House of World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down. | ||
It will look like the great booming, buzzing confusion, but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, We'll accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault. | ||
What had happened up to 1973 represented the frontal assault that they had tried and failed multiple times. | ||
This new strategy to create a new international economic order, which is the kind of the buzz phrase of the Trilateral Commission back then, was going to be an end run around national sovereignty, a death by a thousand cuts, if you will. | ||
And I'll tell you what, in the last 45 years, this is exactly what has happened. | ||
We've seen end run after end run after end run. | ||
Until today, we're looking at this mess. | ||
And it's not just in America, it's global in nature. | ||
Technocracy set out originally to create a new economic model that had never been tried before in the history of the world. | ||
It started in earnest in 1932 at Columbia University. | ||
By scientists and engineers, primarily that worked there, but there were others involved as well. | ||
The Great Depression was raging. | ||
They were sure capitalism was dead. | ||
They said, it's up to us now to create a new economic system, a new model that would work for the world and everybody be happy. | ||
And it had utopian like features to it, but it was a resource based economic system that would allow them to control all the resources, the distribution of resources, and the manufacture of things, and the consumption of things by people. | ||
And so this system of scientific engineering, if you will, of society, lasted for a while, but it fell out of favor when the economy recovered, and it kind of laid dormant during the 50s and 60s. | ||
Zbigniew Brzezinski brought it back to life. | ||
And it caught the eye of David Rockefeller, the big money man, Chase Manhattan Bank at the time. | ||
The two of them teamed up to create what they called back then a new international economic order. | ||
And when I was writing with Professor Anthony Sutton, our books on Trilaterals over Washington, we didn't understand what technocracy was then. | ||
I do now. | ||
But we didn't then. | ||
We knew something was new. | ||
But what does it mean, new international economic order? | ||
Well, we have the framework to understand that now. | ||
They meant technocracy. | ||
And by the way, the marketing name has changed many times. | ||
You have it as sustainable development, green economy, Green New Deal, the Great Reset by the World Economic Forum. | ||
Build back, build back better, right? | ||
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One thing I just want to make a comment because of Brzezinski to make sure people put in historical context when they were thinking this up in Columbia in the 30s. | ||
This was capitalism was they thought collapsing, right? | ||
This was the depths of the project that was collapsing. | ||
This was looked at by many people as a counter to communism. | ||
In fact, Brzezinski is known as an anti-communist. | ||
He became Jimmy Carter's eventually the National Security Advisor and was obviously very important in Poland and other places fighting communism. | ||
But this is what I say when people attack. | ||
Some of the things they're doing is socialism or communism. | ||
I say you missed the point. | ||
It's really the merger of aspects of state capitalism with massive autocratic power in government, but with science and technology being supreme, not just political decisions. | ||
Is that a rough way to sketch that out? | ||
Well, it is. | ||
The early technocrats, by the way, hated communists. | ||
There was an antipathy between the two groups. | ||
They wrote articles to punch us at each other. | ||
And in some cases, they were pretty close to a fistfight back then. | ||
There was reasons for that. | ||
I won't go into them all right now. | ||
But that carried forward with Brzezinski because he was very much, you know, anti-communist. | ||
But he was behaving like a technocrat, not like a communist, I have to say. | ||
The definition that they used themselves. | ||
But that was also, just aside, that was also the rap on Carter, that Carter thought of things in a very technocratic, he was a Navy nuclear submariner, very technocratic. | ||
It was one of the reasons that Reagan, with that kind of breath of fresh air back to American common sense, American ingenuity, was so different. | ||
But these guys look at things from a technocratic, that everything can be solved by technology. | ||
That's right. | ||
And we have a definition of technocracy from 1938. | ||
It's just as good today as it was back then. | ||
Here's what they said. | ||
Technocracy is the science of social engineering. | ||
That ought to set your hair on fire right there. | ||
The scientific operation of the entire social mechanism to produce and distribute goods and services to the entire population. | ||
That's how they viewed it. | ||
An economic system that was run by science and they called it the science of social engineering. | ||
That means the manipulation of man to do what they want to do. | ||
Pure and simple. | ||
Wow. | ||
How advanced now, how does technocracy underpin what we call globalization? | ||
You know, the Trilateral Commission is not obviously what it used to be. | ||
You had the World Economic Forum in Davos. | ||
How has technocracy imbued this whole movement to the World Economic Forum and the globalization model that we have today? | ||
This is the new international economic order that was predicted by the Trilateral Commission. | ||
The book that Brzezinski wrote right before that, 1970, was called Between Two Ages, America's Role in the Technotronic Era. | ||
This is really what kind of got Rockefeller's attention. | ||
And he proposed in that, that there is three eras, we were between the two, like the jelly and the sandwich. | ||
The final end society, Brzezinski said, was going to be the technotronic era. | ||
It would be run by scientists and engineers, you know, basically worshipping science, as we know today, that science says, like Simon says. | ||
And, you know, this has permeated every level of globalization that we have today. | ||
This is modern globalization. | ||
It was predicted even back then. | ||
And so, you know, when you look at the Great Reset, the World Economic Forum, who do they represent? | ||
Well, not just the governments of the world. | ||
They represent all of the major global corporations, like the Siemens, the GEs, the IBMs, etc. | ||
All of these companies, many of which were originally involved in the Trilateral Commission back in the 1970s, all of these companies now are pushing this new economic reset. | ||
Which is going to kill off capitalism and free enterprise as we know it today, free market economic system. | ||
And it's going to flip the world into a resource-based economic system where we will not be players. | ||
They will be the owners of everything. | ||
Well, what it does, it's out to kill the entrepreneurial spirit. | ||
The last thing they want is entrepreneurs. | ||
What they want is large state capitalism with this kind of autocratic, big government. | ||
I mean, the model they continue to look for, they would like a lighter version. | ||
This, we see Tom Friedman, if we could only beat China for a day, right? | ||
The model they put to, and she stands up all the time and says, our model is working, and the pandemic shows our model works better than the model of the West. | ||
OK, we're going to return. | ||
To Arizona and Patrick Wood and discuss more technocracy and that shift from technocracy. | ||
It's cutting edge now in transhumanism as the technological oligarchs see the singularity, the conversion of these different technologies and what comes beyond that with the oligarchs being in total and complete control. | ||
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I'm going to turn back to Patrick Wood and the book's technocracy. | ||
We've had the books up there, Patrick. | ||
I know you may not be able to see it in our podcast audience, but you just go to Amazon and type in Patrick Wood. | ||
You'll get his books on technocracy. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
The rising technocracy, rising in the hard road. | ||
Incredible books should be read. | ||
It's interesting, Patrick. | ||
We only got a few minutes here, but I got to mention that you've been able to single out something I've been saying for years. | ||
People give Henry – the two big names back in the 70s were Henry Kissinger and then Brzezinski. | ||
And Kissinger is known in a global celebrity and everybody in the United States or virtually everybody knows his name. | ||
But his concepts, you go back and read the books, and particularly his misfire on China, but is really not under, being a guy that really thought back to diplomacy, he missed the point. | ||
It's really Brzezinski that will be looked at as the much more influential thinker, because he was really the, as you say, the architect, the mental architect of this system, was he not? | ||
Yes, he was. | ||
And he is a brilliant, brilliant man, I have to say. | ||
I respect him for that evil brilliance, but Brilliant nonetheless, and he really did have a long-range vision of what was going to happen. | ||
So how does transhumanism play? | ||
We've got the convergence of advanced chip design, of regenerative robotics, of artificial intelligence that goes to artificial general intelligence, and now Dr. Doudna, the codebreaker, the awardee of the Nobel Prize for this year in gene editing, gene splicing. | ||
So tell us, how do we get from technocracy, the current system we have on a global basis, to transhumanism? | ||
Well, America has founding fathers. | ||
Everybody acknowledges that pretty much. | ||
So does transhumanism and technocracy. | ||
One of their principal founding fathers, that the literature easily reveals, is a French philosopher by the name of Henri de Saint-Simon. | ||
Saint-Simon. | ||
He's not a saint. | ||
It's his name, Saint-Simon. | ||
And he was a philosopher that is looked back upon as the The intellectual architect of all the things we have in technocracy and transhumanism. | ||
Those two disciplines are joined at the hip, as far as I'm concerned. | ||
But here's what St. | ||
Simon wrote in the early 1800s. | ||
He said, A scientist, my dear friend, is a man who foresees. | ||
It is because science provides the means to predict that it is useful, and the scientists are superior to all other men. | ||
This is where it started. | ||
This is a very disturbing platform that scientists are superior to all other men. | ||
But we see this today, don't we? | ||
We see the Fauci's, we see the Burke's, we see the World Health Organization and the CDC and the European Health Organization. | ||
All of these people are telling us, if you don't trust the science, somehow you are anti-human. | ||
In fact, it's just really kind of the other way around. | ||
But science now rules And the scientists, that class of people, have set themselves up to be like a priesthood, which Saint Simon also predicted back then, a priesthood of science and engineers who would listen to science, much like the Aztec priests listened to the volcanoes thousands of years ago, to see what man should do to appease the gods of science. | ||
Patrick, I want to, how do people get to you? | ||
What's the social media handles? | ||
Because in the next segment, this is one of the reasons we want to do this show. | ||
The mantra of data-based, evidence-based, science-based that you've heard for months and months and months, right? | ||
And we were the first show in the pandemic, right? | ||
We are evidence-based, we are data-based, we're science-based. | ||
They use that as a mantra for something different. | ||
This rise of what we call scientism. | ||
We are all for science and we're all for evidence. | ||
This is, this is, Evolving into something quite different. | ||
Scientism. | ||
Our next guest, Mark Jeftovec, up in Canada, is going to get to the bottom of why that's the new religion, and these are the new high priests of that religion, the new religion of transhumanism. | ||
But tell people how they get to you. | ||
I know you've got another group out there on free speech. | ||
We've got about a minute. | ||
Walk to people. | ||
How do people get access to your writings? | ||
How do they get access to you? | ||
You're going to be a frequent guest on The War Room going forward, but we want to make sure in your introductory day that people get access to you. | ||
Technocracy.News is where people find everything, including over 4,000 catalogued and indexed articles on technocracy. | ||
And our social action group, a non-profit group, is called CitizensForFreeSpeech.org. | ||
And isn't it odd that we're the only organization probably in America right now that really should not have to exist? | ||
Citizens for free speech? | ||
We're fighting for the ability to restore, to keep the First Amendment so that we can keep our voices heard. | ||
It's incredible. | ||
Patrick Wood, thank you very much for joining us from Arizona today. | ||
Okay, my next guest we're going to get to after the break, Mark Jeftovec up in Canada. | ||
We had him on the show about a month ago and the response was tremendous. | ||
Mark has written a number of articles, but a very powerful article about scientism and why that's the new religion of transhumanism. | ||
We're going to get into all that and why this is very disturbing when you hear this mantra over and over and over again of being data-based and evidence-based and science-based, that it's not about science as we know it. | ||
It's about essentially a new religion that's being formed. | ||
And I realize the guys at Media Matters' heads are going to blow up, but the evidence is there. | ||
That this is beyond rational scientific inquiry. | ||
We can actually compare hypotheses and data and experiments and all that. | ||
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