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March 15, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 799 – The Ides of March … Populism Then and NowEpisode 799 – The Ides of March … Populism Then and Now
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bill maher
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boris epshteyn
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raheem kassam
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steve bannon
10:33
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joe scarborough
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maureen bannon
01:41
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anthony fauci
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
♪♪
Calcurnia!
Keep hold!
Caesar speaks!
Calpurnia!
Here, my lord.
Stand you directly in Antonius' way when he doth run his course.
Antonius!
Caesar!
My lord?
Forget not in your speed, Antonius, to touch Calpurnia, for our elders say the barren touched in this holy chase shake off their sterile curse.
When Caesar says do this, it is performed.
Set on!
And leave no ceremony out!
Caesar!
Aye?
Who calls?
Let every noise be still!
Peace!
Yell again!
Who is it in the press that calls on me?
I hear a tongue shriller than all the music.
Christ Caesar!
Speak!
Caesar is turned to hear!
Beware the Ides of March!
What man is that?
A soothsayer bids you beware the ides of March.
Set him before me.
Let me see his face.
Fellow, come from the throng.
Look upon Caesar.
Thank you.
What sayest thou to me now?
Speak once again.
Beware the Ides of March.
He is a dreamer.
Let us leave him.
Pass! Pass!
♪♪♪
I think that's from 1953.
steve bannon
Joseph Mankiewicz, William Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, Marlon Brando, James Mason, John Gilgit, Deborah Carr, and of course, Lewis Calhoun as Julius Caesar.
Beware the dreamer, Mr. Rahim Kassam, we're going to bring Boris Epstein in in a minute.
How is that, by the way, the populist movement right there, the reactionaries, the elites, Thought the populace were getting a little ahead of themselves and that they were going to basically announce or make Julius Caesar king, emperor of a republic.
What say you, sir?
raheem kassam
Um, there's parallels.
You know, there's very distinct parallels with some of what we're seeing.
steve bannon
In the first year of Trump's reign, remember, in Central Park, or not in Central Park, I think it was in Central Park, they had Julius Caesar.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
And they had Trump.
Remember this controversy?
Trump was Caesar, and they had this bloody assassination there, the Ides of March, and it got very controversial.
I think even the Secret Service made some phone calls.
There were some aspects about toning it down.
raheem kassam
And then you, you know, we're confronted with this reality every day of the wall and the razor wire and the military protecting politicians and the increasing strife that's taking place elsewhere in the country, whether it's strife related to The bad economics of all of this, the pandemic, the Chinese Communist Party and what it's doing, and specifically what's going on on the border at the moment.
And you just look at this scene, which is the precursor to the seizure of power from a hyper-paranoid elite, and it's very hard to not be drawn into the parallel.
So everybody, I recommend today, go back and watch Caesar.
steve bannon
Yeah, William Shakespeare.
By the way, triggered a brutal civil war that'll take forever.
Okay, we got Boris Epstein now joins us.
We're going to get into this over the weekend.
The elite media, the real thinkers in the opinion sections of media, turned on Joe Biden over the weekend.
But Boris, before we get there, thoughts, comments, observations on The Ides of March?
boris epshteyn
The Ides of March, what a wonderful movie and, you know, some of the best cinema made, I think, in the history of the genre there in the 50s.
In terms of the actual subject, That's what we're dealing with, unquestionably.
And Steve, great to be with you.
Captain Bannon, always an honor.
Raheem, good morning to you as well, my good friend.
It seems like you're cold over there.
Hope the sweater is keeping you warm.
unidentified
We can't all be lazing around in Florida, Boris.
Yeah.
boris epshteyn
Okay, first of all, it's an undisclosed location.
unidentified
Okay.
raheem kassam
Most of Florida is.
unidentified
Captain Bannon, can you please get with them and explain what undisclosed means?
steve bannon
Operation security, OPSEC.
boris epshteyn
Okay, this is what we're doing now, everything's just out in the open, okay?
unidentified
This could be front page of the Daily Mail.
raheem kassam
Hold up, we're gonna put a different chyron under your name so they think you're somebody else, okay?
So don't worry about it.
boris epshteyn
Yeah, it's me, Tony!
unidentified
Hi!
boris epshteyn
In all seriousness, the parallels are deafening.
The parallels between a populist movement to have freedom, to have democracy, to have agency, to have actual agency, versus the elites, is what we've been fighting, is what we've been experiencing.
It's been the Trump movement, the MAGA movement, versus the Uniparty.
The establishment isn't Democrat or Republican.
The establishment is Washington, D.C.
As we've talked about time and time again, it crosses across party lines.
That is why you've had these boondoggles in D.C.
forever.
The Gridiron Dinner and the White House Correspondents Dinner.
steve bannon
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
boris epshteyn
When President Trump would miss them, the elites would go crazy.
Oh my God, how dare he not come and bow down to the elites?
So the parallels are absolutely deafening.
I do remember, Steve, what you were talking about in terms of Julius Caesar playing at Central Park, and you're right, the Secret Service did make phone calls.
So, you know, history is important if you listen to it.
And what we have to listen to is the fact that over and over and over again, the elites have sacrificed any semblance of ideology, any semblance of care for the people.
Have sacrificed any resemblance of having an actual belief system or perspective for power.
For power.
steve bannon
Is there a crack in the elites?
Paul Farrar, you brought it up, this opinion piece in the Wash Post, he's the most respected in the inner circle of the media critics or media observers.
He wrote a piece yesterday, I want you two guys to ponder, but most importantly, The who's who of the White House correspondents, Peter Baker being the most respected of the New York Times, started tweeting that out.
I want you guys to jump in here.
He took on Biden and the Biden administration about no press conferences, Mr. Rahim Kassam?
raheem kassam
So what's amazing about this is, you know, we started talking about this weeks and weeks ago on this show, and it was becoming abundantly clear to me.
Look, since Boris took my Merkel migrant crisis line, I've got to point out that I specifically noticed that we were missing somebody critical in action on the press stage, and that was Joe Biden.
And since we made note of it, Politico, New York Times, and now Washington Post, all these guys have started to go, hey, wait a minute.
You know, we put our necks on the line, claiming that the last guy was not transparent, that he, you know, denigrated the press.
Well actually, at least he used to walk across that...
from the from marine one over to the press and he may have said hey i've come over here to talk to the fake news they told me to come to talk to the fake news but then he took questions he engaged with them and the rest of the country got to hear from him what he had to say and most importantly as it relates to Joe Biden if he could string a sentence together or not and the truth was that every single day president trump was stringing sentence upon sentence upon sentence together that not only established what he meant uh... how he wanted to present to the public
but taking on the uh... elite classes the self-appointed elite classes this guy now is hiding away while the country continues in in multiple crises And I want the audience to internalize this.
Multiple crises is carnage.
Multiple crises is carnage.
President Trump's inaugural address, and it will still be his inaugural address I believe, But it's first inaugural address.
steve bannon
Not his only.
raheem kassam
He said, this American carnage ends here.
So what you're seeing now is the press, who thought they were going to get all this access, they're recognizing there's carnage in America and the President is AWOL.
steve bannon
Joe, Boris, is there a direct link, hang on, is there a direct link between Peter Baker and these top guys in the White House, the White House correspondents are being disrespected now, being dissed, And tweeting this out, that column, and all of a sudden they announced right after that, oh, he's going to have a sit-down one-on-one with George Stephanopoulos.
Was this a forcing function, the pressure we kept putting on, and now it got picked up by the Washington Post and the New York Times?
Is that what finally forced Biden to sit down with a reporter?
boris epshteyn
With a reporter, but also with a former Democrat operative.
unidentified
So you're going to have a Democrat president.
boris epshteyn
Sitting down with the guy who was, for a very short time, press secretary and then was a comms advisor for Bill Clinton.
With all due respect to George, this isn't like, you know, it's Bret Baier getting an interview, you know, or even somebody, you know, someone else.
Uh, at CBS.
Nor others.
Nor O'Donnell did it when she had Jill Biden there.
But it'd be nice to have an actual interview.
Savannah Guthrie.
Somebody who hasn't worked in Democrat politics before.
I know they're kind of tough to find in mainstream media.
You've got Chuck Todd who has.
Jake Tapper who has.
You have George Stephanopoulos.
All have worked in Democrat politics.
But it'd be nice if Joe Biden sat alone without his wife there, without the Vice President there, and got interviewed.
There's somebody who at least pretends to have never been a Democrat.
So, here's what I saw.
The Paul Farhi article, I don't think it was actually an opinions deal.
I think it was in their media section.
You have Paul Farhi out there being very direct, very direct.
And I've been on the other side of Paul Farhi articles when I was Chief Political Commentator at Sinclair Broadcast Group.
Now let me tell you, he gets deep, you know, and he tries to be as fair as possible.
You've got Peter Baker tweeting it out.
What is happening?
The media, as much as most of the mainstream media don't like Republicans, as much as they themselves probably like Democrats, they like one thing better.
They have one more level of, you know, resilience. They have one more level of honor, and that's themselves.
That's what they like the most. They like themselves.
They honor themselves the most.
steve bannon
so right now they were quite a negative you angry but they don't have access is this is our of that but are they got and they tried to answer for our is that they try to answer uh... you know that that the criticism they're getting now from heavyweights the mainstream media by the stephanopoulos interview wednesday and every he might keep telling you they're not going to have the press comes by the end of march you think they say well we had he went to a bc he took a tough interview there you don't need an open press coverage you think they try to do that
unidentified
I think that's exactly what's going to happen.
steve bannon
Do you think so?
raheem kassam
I also think they try and get around it and away with it by by lumping him to communal press conferences you know with maybe other world leaders or other people around him but again it doesn't address the point that Boris mentioned is that it's what the press want and what they write for the first time the press are right to demand is a one-on-one unadulterated press conference.
maureen bannon
Well, does anyone notice that this press conference is a good morning America?
Joe has to have an interview in the morning, he can't have it at night with someone that isn't going to lob him easy questions.
raheem kassam
But again, that's an interview, it's not a press interview.
maureen bannon
But still, it's in the morning.
boris epshteyn
I'll be worried about the chair over there on the show.
steve bannon
Yeah, hang on, hang on, hang on.
You're going full mean girl.
Full mean girl.
Very catty.
Short commercial break.
We're going to return.
It's a war of ideas.
Sarah Silverman, Bill Maher, telling us that.
We're going to hear next.
Alexander Piate, comms director for The War Room, be joining for us in The War Room next.
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room Pandemic.
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bill maher
And finally, new rule, you're not going to win the battle for the 21st century if you are a silly people.
And Americans are a silly people.
That's the classic phrase from Lawrence of Arabia when Lawrence tells his Bedouin allies that as long as they stay a bunch of squabbling tribes, they will remain a silly people.
Well, we're the silly people now.
Do you know who doesn't care that there's a stereotype of a Chinese man in a Dr. Seuss book?
China.
All 1.4 billion of them could give a crouching tiger flying.
Because they're not a silly people.
If anything, they are as serious as a prison fight.
Look, we all know China does bad stuff.
They break promises about Hong Kong autonomy, they put Uyghurs in camps and punish dissent, and we don't want to be that.
But it's got to be something between authoritarian government that tells everyone what to do and a representative government that can't do anything at all.
In two generations, China has built 500 entire cities from scratch, moved the majority of their huge population from poverty to the middle class, and mostly cornered the market in 5G and pharmaceuticals.
Oh, and they bought Africa.
Their new Silk Road initiative is the biggest infrastructure project in history, indebting not just that continent, but large parts of Asia, Europe, and the Middle East to the people who built their roads, bridges, and ports.
If you want to go anywhere in the world these days, you better have a yen for travel.
A yen for travel.
Oh, stop it.
In China alone, they have 40,000 kilometers of high-speed rail.
America has none.
Our fastest train is the tram that goes around the zoo.
California wanted to build high-speed rail connecting the entire state, but alas, could not.
We're six billion in the hole just trying to finish the track connecting the vital hubs of Bakersfield and Merced.
One small step for nobody, one giant leap if you're a raisin.
unidentified
Laughter.
Applause.
bill maher
On a national level, we've been having Infrastructure Week every week since 2009.
But we never do anything.
Half the country is having a never-ending woke competition deciding whether Mr. Potato Head has a dick.
And the other half believes we have to stop the lizard people because they're eating babies.
We are a silly people.
Even when we all agree on something, like getting rid of the penny.
No, the inertia, the graft, the lawyers, the cowardice, nothing ever moves in this impacted colon of a country.
We see a problem and we ignore it, lie about it, fight about it, endlessly litigate it, sunset clause it, kick it down the road, and then write a bill where a half revolution doesn't kick in for 10 years.
unidentified
China's the absolutist ness of the party I am in that is such a turnoff to me.
It's so f***ing elitist.
You know, for something called progressive, it allows for zero progress.
It's all or nothing.
No steps toward all or f***ing nothing.
Again, righteousness porn.
And I've been thinking about this a lot, just in general.
I just, I don't know that I want to be associated with any party.
I really, I think I don't want to be associated with any party anymore.
It just, it comes with too much baggage.
Every party, it comes with so much baggage.
That no ideas can be taken at face value.
And without ideas, what are we?
Without a common truth, how can we talk about it?
You know, Republicans might hear an idea that they would totally agree with, but if it comes from AOC, then they hate it.
And of course, you know, to be honest, when I hear an idea that comes from a Republican, it's suspect to me.
We all put too much shit on this stuff.
We no longer are able to be a nation of ideas.
bill maher
China sees a problem, and they fix it.
They build a dam.
We debate what to rename it.
That's why their airports look like this, and ours look like this.
In San Francisco, it took 10 years just to get two bus lines through environmental review.
The Big Dig, a tunnel in Boston, took 16 years.
and don't get me started on my solar hookup.
China once put up a 57-story skyscraper in 19 days.
They demolished and rebuilt the Sanyuan Bridge in Beijing in 43 hours.
We binge watch, they binge build.
When COVID hit Wuhan, the city built a quarantine center with 4,000 rooms in 10 days, and they barely had to use it because they quickly arrested the spread of the disease.
They were back to throwing raves in swimming pools.
Well, we were stuck at home surfing the dark web for black market charmin.
unidentified
Laughter and applause.
bill maher
We're not losing to China.
We lost.
The returns just haven't all come in yet.
They made robots that check a kid's temperature and got their asses back in school.
Most of our kids are still pretending to take Zoom classes while they watch TikTok and their brain cells slowly commit ritual suicide.
As George Bush once said, is our children learning?
There is a progressive trend now to sacrifice merit for equity.
Colleges are chucking the SAT and ACT tests, and in New York, Mayor de Blasio announced merit would no longer decide who gets into the schools for advanced learners, but rather a lottery system.
You think China's doing that, letting political correctness get in the way of nurturing their best and brightest?
You think Chinese colleges are offering courses in the philosophy of Star Trek?
the sociology of Seinfeld and surviving the coming zombie apocalypse. Those are real and so is China and they are eating our lunch and believe me in an hour they'll be hungry again.
unidentified
Welcome back to the war room. Okay we got uh by the way is is is Boris, you, you called it.
raheem kassam
You said she was gonna take the captain's chair.
Look what's happened.
steve bannon
It's a coup d'etat.
boris epshteyn
I am.
unidentified
It literally, it took ten minutes.
I thought maybe she'd at least give him a day.
boris epshteyn
Talk about... It's the eyes of Brunetti.
raheem kassam
Eyes of March.
steve bannon
Hey, Eyes of March, Eyes of March inspired her, right?
boris epshteyn
By the way, the image of Steve Bannon in the guest chair on his own show next to Raheem is something I'm going to treasure for a long time.
The bomber jacket is crying.
raheem kassam
He's got the computer.
He's going to be working away at the computer now.
steve bannon
I should do some work.
boris epshteyn
I should do some work.
unidentified
Hey Steve, I think Captain Bannon needs a coffee.
steve bannon
Exactly, exactly.
I'm going to go get her one.
You have milk and sugar?
Okay, I know you've got a bolt.
You've got Sarah Silverman talking about, we've got to start talking about ideas.
Bill Maher is going full war room on the CCP, on China.
What's going on here, Boris, before you take off?
boris epshteyn
What's going on is that the left, so Bill Maher for a long time has said smart things, right?
He's said smart things against world culture, he's been right against radical Islamic Jihadism, and then other things that we obviously disagree with, but Bill Maher's show I've been on twice, including as the top of the show, he has He has always been open to the idea that maybe the left doesn't have it all right.
And now you got Sarah Silverman-Chamming in there too.
Because what you see from the left is a full-on Orwellian 1984 lockstep.
Into ridiculous wokeness that's going to eat them all alive!
And Silverman's realizing, and Maher's realized it for a long time.
And go back to what we talked about in the previous section, in the previous segment, you've got Peter Baker, Paul Fahey, and other members of the media, sort of the high left-wing mainstream media, people who are considered to be the deep thinkers going after Biden, because they like themselves more than they like Democrats.
They like themselves more than they dislike Republicans.
So now you have this interesting conglomerate of the Libertarians, the Populists, some members of left-wing media, and then of course the MAGA movement, the War Room, the brain trust of the MAGA movement, almost all of the Republican Party except for the 5% who are RINOs.
Everyone's coming together against Joe Biden!
And coming together against the Volkhof, that is today's Democrat Party.
So this is going to continue the marginalization of the Democrat Party that we've been talking about for a long time.
Some may believe that Joe Biden got 80 million votes in this last election.
But if you listen to everybody, from us here at the War Room, under the leadership of Captain Bannon, to Bill Maher and Sarah Silverman, It looks like there is now a united spectrum against today's version of the Democrat Party.
steve bannon
Before Boris gives a social media course, do you buy that?
raheem kassam
Well, look, first thing I've got to say, that's what good writing sounds like on that show.
It's impeccable, flawless, and hits the right notes.
The problem with Bill Maher is all over the place.
Next week he'll be saying the complete opposite.
That's one of the major problems with him.
And Steve, I've got bad news for you as well.
Because not only is this the guest chair, this is the rotating guest chair.
steve bannon
Get him up in the bullpen.
Boris, you've got to bounce.
Give us your social media coordinates.
boris epshteyn
Thanks so much.
Great to be with you.
At BorisEP on Twitter, Boris underscore EPSHTEYN on the gram.
Let's continue uniting the country against the woke left Joe Biden's Democrat Party.
Stay strong.
God bless.
At BorisEP on Twitter, Boris underscore Epstein on the gram.
Have a great day.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to analyze Morning Joe next.
A rant this morning with Alexander Priyate, Captain Bannon, Raheem Kassam in the War Room.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Center in New Jersey.
I met so many who had been desperate to get a vaccine appointment.
I feel that I'm lucky.
But there are also millions rejecting it.
I'm not getting the vaccine because I'm honestly not scared of the virus.
I don't trust the vaccine at all.
Many of them white conservatives like Gina Militello.
She's a mom of four who works in a school and voted for former President Trump.
Public health officials and scientists and leading doctors are saying we should get this vaccine.
Why are you so concerned about it?
I don't think that it's 100% safe and effective.
And I believe that the risk is worse than what the benefit would be.
You're concerned that it hasn't been tested enough?
Yes.
A new poll finds nearly half of Trump voters do not plan to get the vaccine, compared to just 10% of Biden voters.
Dr. Melody Weaver runs a clinic in rural Idaho.
You have people believing that masks don't matter, the vaccines.
Conspiracy, and maybe they're out to get us.
It's a huge concern for Dr. Paul Offit, who serves on the FDA panel that approved the vaccines.
This country needs everyone to get this vaccine, right?
Or at least a certain percentage of people to eventually get to herd immunity.
You're right.
We need about 80% at least of the population to be immune.
Dr. Ashish Jha is at Brown University.
It's politicized now.
You hear people say, I don't believe in this administration, I don't believe in these vaccines.
Yeah, this is one of the more disturbing things in my mind, kind of disturbing turn of events.
There should be, there's nothing political about this virus.
The virus doesn't care if you're a Democrat or Republican, and the vaccines work just as well for Democrats and Republicans.
For me as a scientist who's also a Christian, this is an answer to a lot of prayers.
Public health officials are targeting conservative media, and a new public service announcement features former presidents, including Republican George W. Bush.
It's important for our fellow citizens to get vaccinated.
But not Donald Trump, who got his vaccine privately.
What if your employer says you need to get the shot before going back to school?
I would have to find another job.
Why is it so important for every one of us to get this vaccine?
joe scarborough
My message is really simple.
unidentified
We want to put it behind us.
joe scarborough
We want to get our lives back.
We want to be able to see family and friends.
unidentified
The best and only real way we can do that is if most Americans get vaccinated.
Make that choice.
Because to not make that choice is not only to put yourself at risk, but to put everyone with whom you come in contact at risk.
joe scarborough
So this is where the alternative facts environment that so many Donald Trump supporters live in, this is where it impacts them.
And it's not, no, it's not people living in the Ozarks living in a tent.
It's everybody.
It's, you know, one of my friends who's highly educated, who's got a lot of children, who's got, you know, and people that obviously get a household that needs to be safe.
He refuses to take the shot.
He's a Donald Trump supporter.
He's been educated.
He knows better.
He should know better.
But he's not going to.
And Jonathan Lemire, can you help us out here?
Because you obviously followed Donald Trump.
This is a public health crisis that we obviously have to get behind us.
And we can't do that if if one half of the 75 million people who voted for Donald Trump aren't going to get the vaccines.
I mean, it's bad for them.
It's worse for them, but it's bad for this country.
Can you can you explain Donald Trump's Hesitancy to go public with this based on everything you've seen in the past?
Have we sort of skirted questions on anti-vaxxing issues or QAnon issues?
maureen bannon
Welcome back to the War Room.
We have Alexandra Priet, the comms director for the War Room here with us.
Alexandra, what are your observations on this clip from Morning Joe today?
unidentified
I think that maybe most people might agree, at least most people on our side, is it just sounds like a bunch of busybodies.
Everybody, I think, that's been watching this show for a long time knows that Steve Bannon was out early on the seriousness of the COVID issue back in January, when even Dr. Fauci wasn't.
So no one, I think, in this group here, can say we don't take the COVID very seriously.
But just watching it, it sounds like now we're a year into this virus, and we've got a bunch of busybodies that care all about this.
But there's many things that go on in the culture that they don't care at all about.
And, you know, tying that in to Sarah Silverman and Bill Maher, you know, they're comedians and people are laughing, but what they're saying is not funny at all.
It's very serious.
The country is in deep trouble, and yet they live in states where we keep electing Democrats.
Again, not all Democrats are bad, but they keep electing Democrats, and the solutions are free market solutions.
I think that the broad American public, black, white, Democrat, Republican, independent, have come to realize there's serious issues, and they expect the country to actually be serious and address these issues.
I don't know.
steve bannon
I really don't understand.
But how do you address an issue?
I think this is why we want to play Silverman and Maher first and then the morning Joe Rant.
How do you address an issue if you can't have an actual conversation and debate?
These are not technically vaccines, right?
The first ones are experimental gene therapies.
Every scientist I've talked to admits that.
And here, why can't you even... I'm not an anti-vaxxer.
We're the ones... Look, this show is specialized in whether you think it's a bioweapon from the Wuhan lab that either they let out on purpose or inadvertently escaped, or if you think it's a total hoax.
We've tried to have the spectrum of people on here.
But in this discussion about the vaccine, because here's what they're going to do.
This is the information warfare about that.
They're going to get to a point very quickly.
If you don't have the vaccine, you're not going to get the vaccine passport.
In other words, you're not going to be able to get on a plane, you're not going to be able to get on public transportation.
Basically, you're not going to be able to hold a job.
Okay?
And yet they don't want any debate whatsoever.
Not from people that are anti-vaxxers, but people that just have legitimate, hey, can you walk me through this again?
What phase of this is really in testing?
It's got emergency authorized use by the FDA, but where do we stand in this?
What are the ultimate outcomes?
Five nations of Europe, correct me if I'm wrong, Ireland being the first, have now banned or put on temporary hold Rahim, one of the ones, where Alexandra's concert, you can't even have a discussion of mentioning vaccine, when all of a sudden you're banned from everywhere and you're an anti-vaxxer.
They're sitting there on one hand saying, and you see Silverman and Maher saying, hey, we've got to have full discussion of ideas. I don't agree.
And if somebody labels it a Republican idea, I hate it off the bat, just like she said AOC, which you know, I'm a kind of an AOC fan.
I get lit up in the war room all the time, right?
Because I like her fight and I like her ideas.
But they're saying, and Bill Maher sounds like he sounds like he was on the Saturday Special.
He sounded like he was sitting next to Frank Gaffney about the war plan of the CCP.
Yeah, when you talk about this vaccine, if you mention it, it's high church.
It's like medieval theology.
You're automatically excommunicated.
unidentified
Look, I think we're at a tipping point here.
And it's going to go one way or the other.
And you're rarely wrong, even when you say things I hope you're going to be wrong about, you're rarely wrong.
So I hope we don't go into the direction that you're talking about.
steve bannon
Such a good comment.
And now I know I'd love you as a comms director.
unidentified
Well, no, I think it's true.
I think we're at a tipping point here.
And 2022 means everything.
The precinct project now means everything.
The local elections mean everything.
I do think that the majority of the country, and I don't mean a little, I mean a vast majority.
There's a poll today by Scott Rasmussen that says at least 61% of Hispanics think that people should be able to live their lives the way they want to.
So I think we're at a tipping point here.
It's going to be neighbor to neighbor.
People need to get out of their comfort zones and talk to people.
Because I think people say, look, I think the virus is serious.
But it's too much.
Sarah Silverman says it's too much.
Bill Maher says it's too much.
And it is too much.
And it's not just this issue.
It's Cardi B with her totally expletive, over-the-top, triple-X rated videos.
And we can't talk about Dr. Seuss.
I think there's not a person on the planet except maybe 10% of the most extreme left.
Like Dennis Prager was talking about, that don't see this as a problem for the whole country.
And of course, if America falls, it means that basically there's no leadership in the whole world and China takes over completely.
So I agree with you 100%.
I have faith in the American people.
That's one thing I'll say.
And I, with Mike Lindell as well, I think, you know, if we put our shoulder to the wheel, as Winston Churchill says, we may get there late.
But we will get there.
I think example of this popularity of the show is an example of that and the activism of this of this audience.
So it's possible that that will turn out that way.
I hope it doesn't.
I hope the 2022 American people really get involved and it's going to be getting out of your comfort zones.
But I think people will figure out as soon as they speak up more people agree with them than disagree with them.
steve bannon
What do you say?
What do you say about the people jumping?
What do you say?
But the people say 2022 is too late.
You got it.
You got to get on it now.
Right.
Or we're going to we're going to we got it.
We got to take this on and confront it.
Obviously, coloring inside the lines.
But you got to do that every way possible where you don't see any fight here in Washington, D.C.
You don't see the Republicans standing up on the COVID-19 bill.
You don't see any pushback right now on about this vaccine.
Right?
What's going to happen here?
They're going to start passing stuff that you've got to have the vaccine, you can't basically get on public transportation.
That means a large segment of the population is not going to be able to have a job, go to work.
maureen bannon
I do see pushback.
unidentified
You're never going to hear it from the media.
There is pushback.
You're not going to hear it from Hollywood.
They keep trying to shove things down people's throats.
You sent around a clip the other day about a school board of education meeting Yeah.
where this African-American woman shot down the whole entire board of education saying, this is not the country that I know.
I think more and more and more people are waking up like Sarah Silverman.
She didn't want to say what she said.
Bill Maher doesn't want to say what he said.
They hope that they could hide under the umbrella of Joe Biden on all the good works that he's doing and Pelosi.
So I think that it's every single thing we all need.
You know, I said I was a billionaire investor that I know said one time, how do I do all the things that I do?
He said, I had to drop things that weren't important.
So I think we need to stop.
We drop our hobbies, drop everything, and the hobby for every American should be fixing this country today.
So you can do that by signing up for a PC program.
You can do it by going to your board of education.
Every single thing is out there for you to do.
And that's what we should be doing.
Enough television, enough everything else.
This should be the number one priority of every American.
And again, I think the majority of the country is with us.
maureen bannon
But what you said earlier about if you don't get this vaccine, you're not going to be able to travel and everything.
There's a restaurant in Seal Beach that has a sign at California outside of their restaurant saying per CDC guidance, if you don't have both vaccines at two weeks after the vaccine, you can't come inside and eat and you have to show proof that you have the vaccine.
steve bannon
This is coming.
At Seal Beach, California, this is going to come all over the country.
Watch.
As the vaccine gets out there, they're going to use it as a warning.
maureen bannon
We need to stop this before it takes over the rest of the country.
unidentified
There's one way to stop it.
There's one way to stop it.
Just don't go.
Who cares?
There's a restaurant here that I know of in Pennsylvania where someone came in and complained to the owner that they had Fox News on.
She said, if you don't like it, you can leave.
No, that was before Fox and the debate, whole debacle, and the way they went after the election night, they went after the president.
But who cares?
If I can't get on a plane, I can Skype.
We don't need whiny babies anymore.
There are people that on D-Day ran into flying bullets at their head and died within 30 seconds of landing at the beach.
steve bannon
It starts at a restaurant, Seal Beach, it ends with not having a job.
raheem kassam
Not being able to travel.
Not being able to travel.
No, look, the way to combat this is, look, we've got a story coming out later today that actually it's the World Health Organization that now the Chinese are lobbying to make this WHO, the center point of cross-nation vaccine passport approval ratings, and that's the way you're going to stop this.
I mean, you look at Peter Daszak and his clip from last week where he's talking about, hey, it's Stephen K Bannon's fault that the Chinese won't release the data because he's put them so much on the back foot that they're scared now of giving us access to anything.
I mean, BS on top of BS, right?
But it's the glass-jawed, super-wimpy, and I really mean that from a, they cannot afford War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
steve bannon
War Room.
Pandemic.
The DHS is going to come out about Wuhan, say it's the frozen food department, it's the frozen food.
And by the way, they're going to put it back to Fort Detrick, you watch.
Okay, short commercial break.
We're going to return with the entire team in the War Room in just a moment.
unidentified
War Room, pandemic with Stephen K.
Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room, pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Bannon.
maureen bannon
Welcome to the War Room.
So I'm going to have to disagree with my dad here.
I agree that I'm happy that Sarah Silverman has finally woken up.
However, I don't agree with what she said about AOC and Republicans.
I don't think AOC ever has a good idea, ever has a smart idea.
So, of course, Republicans are never going to agree with her because she never has a good idea.
steve bannon
You come in and take the caps and all of a sudden you're a super mean girl.
AOC?
I didn't say I like all of AOC's ideas.
I like the fact she's a bartender, I like the fact she's a fighter.
raheem kassam
Is AOC's idea that Cuomo should resign a good idea?
maureen bannon
Hold it.
I will give her one good idea.
And it took a little poking and prodding by the right.
steve bannon
It was AOC that put in also about the nursing homes.
She's going to say just for the women and the nursing homes.
OK, look, today's been the show so packed.
We haven't had a chance to give time to our sponsors.
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Also, we didn't get a chance to talk about MyStore to hopefully get Mike on here later in the week to talk about his concept of MyStore, which they lit him up in the Minneapolis paper.
maureen bannon
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steve bannon
That will jack you up.
raheem kassam
I have something.
steve bannon
Okay, go ahead.
The podcast!
unidentified
No, I just take ginseng raisins.
raheem kassam
And I'm not even selling any.
If anything, if you try and take them from me, we're fighting.
steve bannon
We're working on a deal.
We're working on a deal with Lucia DeClercq, who's still the best guest you ever had at 105 years old, right?
She beat COVID and she didn't need a vaccine, right?
Gin-soaked raisins.
I want to go back.
What's this out of Massachusetts you were talking about, Raheem?
raheem kassam
I mean, maybe I'm a nutcase.
In fact, I'm definitely a nutcase.
And also this.
I noticed, and somebody sent me this, I can't remember who it was, so thank you for bringing this to my attention, that we had this huge lung illness outbreak in Massachusetts, but also in other parts of the country.
steve bannon
Respiratory?
raheem kassam
Respiratory illness in 2019 and 2020, that actually, I didn't realize the scale of this.
steve bannon
The fall of 19 to roll over into 20, right?
raheem kassam
I didn't realize the scale of this thing at the time.
2,711 hospitalized cases and 60 deaths across 27 states over 2019-2020, all related to a lung, what they call a lung-related illness, with these vaping pens.
But what were they?
They were illicit vaping pens that were being shipped into the country from China.
steve bannon
Like fentanyl, another poison.
Okay, we've got a lot to go through in just a couple of minutes.
I want to go back to Alexander Piate, our Comms Director.
Mike Lindell, that first hour I think was just incredible of what he presented to the country, but particularly I loved his clothes that talked about his time of testing, how he's digging deep into himself about prayer and more discernment, but particularly what people under 35 should do.
Alexandra, I know this is something close to your heart.
What are your comments, observations?
unidentified
Well, there's a place for all of us in this beautiful country, and I like to be a happy warrior.
I definitely think that we're at a precipice here, which means we could go one way permanently or the other.
But I believe in Jesus.
I'm a very proud Catholic, and because of that, we've been taught that our job on this planet is simple.
It's to know, to love, and to serve God.
We shouldn't act like gods, like some of you talk about transhumanism, acting like gods.
So our job is just to do that.
It's very simple.
And give the rest to God.
We don't have to live in fear.
We can live in joy and happiness.
Doesn't mean that you can't be afraid of what's to come, but a real fear is fear of God.
And I think Mike Lindell said it very, very succinctly.
We have the greatest country in the history of the world given to us by God and the hard work of the people that came before us.
So I think we can change things.
I'm not, I completely agree this passport situation, vaccine passport situation is very scary to me.
And there are many things that are very scary.
It's not that they won't come to pass, but we know that as you saw about their human agency, we can stop it.
And I applaud people like Mike Lindell.
He gets beat up when he gets up again and keeps doing it.
And I think most Americans are like that.
I think the vast of American public agrees with us and the problems that they see.
The media and Hollywood tries to push an agenda and make us think we're alone, but we're not.
I just read you that poll about 61% of Hispanics.
I think that American people should live their lives the way they want to.
steve bannon
Remember, this entire show, and Alexander is a key part of this, this entire show is about your human agency and human action.
Okay, this afternoon we're going to be getting back into about CCP.
Josh Rogin is going to join us, the author of the new book, amazing new book, Chaos Under Heaven.
It's about President Donald Trump's confrontation with the Chinese Communist Party.
Like I said, MAGA is going to like a lot of this.
They're not going to like some of it, but we've got to get Josh Rogin is the best sourced, I think, reporter.
raheem kassam
I'm halfway through that right now.
If the audience wants to read about how difficult it is to work with Peter Navarro and Stephen K. Bannon, you've got to read this book.
It's amazing.
steve bannon
The team knows that.
Alexander, how can you be a happy warrior and work for the War Room?
Uh, so that's a five o'clock day.
What's on the podcast?
raheem kassam
Just real quick, we just started going through two new names have been released in the in the case relating to the death of officer Brian Sicknick and I've gone through the names already and tried to link them up and for one of the guys appears to be the owner of a sandwich shop in Morgantown, West Virginia A sandwich shop that has been promoted by BuzzFeed News.
steve bannon
Wow.
Gotta check all that out.
Darren Batey tells me the guys over at Revolver.News are going to have more breaking news about this entire situation, so we'll hopefully get to that.
We're also dedicating the entire week of our CCP coverage, including what happened the other day, to the memory of Curtis Ellis.
He had his funeral ceremony yesterday.
It was a very moving job.
Frederick was there, I was there by Zoom.
All of us gave eulogies.
Curtis Ellis, a great warrior against the Chinese Communist Party for the American people and for Lao-Beijing.
Okay, Captain Bannon will be around.
Thank you for taking the captaincy.
maureen bannon
Thank you for having me.
unidentified
Always.
raheem kassam
Can we have you again tomorrow instead of him?
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
Democracy.
He's got his shorts coming.
I guess that's what the Ides of March is about, right?
It's a populist movement.
You don't want to get too populist.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
See you at five.
We'll be here with Josh Rogan and Chaos Under Heaven.
Make sure you get Raheem's podcast this afternoon.
More breaking news.
And we'll see you tomorrow morning in the War Room.
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