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March 11, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 792 – 310 to Yuma … The Capitol Keeps People Out, Biden Lets the Cartels inEpisode 792 – 310 to Yuma … The Capitol Keeps People Out, Biden Lets the Cartels in
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andrew torba
06:38
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ben bergquam
05:54
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peter navarro
08:44
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steve bannon
14:23
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raheem kassam
04:34
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anthony fauci
00:11
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greg abbot
00:10
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unidentified
The virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
You don't want to frighten the American public.
unidentified
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
That this is going to be a real serious problem.
unidentified
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
unidentified
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Anti-Semitic platforms like Gab have no place in Texas and certainly do not represent Texas values.
greg abbot
What does represent Texas values is legislation like this by Representative King and Representative Goldman that fights anti-Semitism in Texas.
steve bannon
Okay, that's Governor Abbott.
You're in the War Room.
We're live from Capitol Hill, an occupied Capitol Hill, day 63 of the occupation.
It is Thursday, 11 March, Year of Our Lord 2020.
It's the one-year anniversary of Donald J. Trump's address from the Oval Office.
We officially named this a pandemic.
We were two months into the show at that time, approximately two months into the show.
Joe Biden tonight signing the COVID-19 bill this afternoon, another fiasco.
And he'll be addressing the nation tonight.
We'll have wall-to-wall coverage with us on Real America's Voice.
We're going to have analysis here later with Dr. Peter Navarro and obviously tomorrow morning.
We're going to in a minute bring in Andrew Torba, the CEO of Gab, to address the situation down in Texas, which nobody can figure out.
Our crack team of social media experts, Rahim Qasam, the publisher and editor-in-chief over at National Pulse, and Maggie Vandenberg, one of the top influencers of the conservative movement.
First, look, a year ago, President Trump called this a pandemic.
In this year that's passed, I think we've had the best coverage of this, and we understand and our audience is a broad range of people who think it's a bioweapon that came out of the Wuhan lab, to people who think it's a total and complete hoax, and everything in between, and we've covered that.
In between.
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Yes, sir.
raheem kassam
Alright.
I'm just going to say, if you're going to do that, you've got to be more high-energy.
steve bannon
I'm trying to be low-key, because I don't want to come biting the phone.
unidentified
Okay, let's get Torba in here, because we've got a lot to go through.
raheem kassam
Hang on, two things, real quick.
Just to show you how little we script the show in advance, I don't know when you plan to show this video of Biden.
steve bannon
We're doing the Peter Navarro thing.
Fine.
raheem kassam
It's amazing to me that the CNN right behind you is playing him talking there and just cutting right before the money, which we're going to show you later on the show.
So stay tuned.
steve bannon
Stay tuned.
You're about to see what really happened in the Oval Office.
Stay tuned.
It's going to be quite shocking.
So they cut it.
They cut it before the money shot.
OK, I want to go to Andrew Torber.
We've had Andrew on many times.
Just the scale of Gab, Andrew, I just want to ask you, how many users do you have?
How important has this become to the conservative movement and the Trump movement to have a place where you can actually have freedom of speech?
andrew torba
Sure, Steve.
So we have almost 5 million users at this point, but we have over 30 million people, unique individuals, that visit and use the site and our services every month.
Keep in mind, you don't need an account to actually visit the site and read the site and explore the site.
Uh, you know, Gab is inevitable.
Um, and you know, the GOP has ignored us.
The establishment GOP has ignored us for about five years now, and we've become so big that they can no longer ignore us.
So they're resorting to smear us, smearing us and defaming our community of, you know, 30 million people from around the world.
steve bannon
Okay, so 30 million, if that was just the U.S.
population, that would be 10% of adults, I don't know, it would be 18 or 20%.
So it's big, and 5 million users, with 30 million people going.
So you're a big size, and I know a lot of people going, Gab.
Please explain to me, look, I'm not a social media guy, we have teams that do that, but The people that I respect understand social media in great detail, like Rahim and Fog City Midge.
I was stunned last night when I saw this.
I said, man, this must have been something that's going on.
There's reports, all kinds of things.
Why did Governor Abbott just come out in the middle of this thing when he's signing a bill that obviously, I take it, dealing with anti-Semitism?
Why would he lead off with sites like Gab that are anti-Semitic, have no place in Texas, and don't represent Texas values?
What is that about?
andrew torba
Steve, your guess is as good as ours.
This hit us from left field last night.
We have no idea where this came from.
We didn't have any contact with his office or with the Texas GOP, which by the way, this is the bizarre thing about it is that the Texas GOP has an official verified account on GAV itself.
So it appears that what we're seeing in Texas in the GOP is some sort of civil war or division where you have this grassroots America first side of the party and you have the GOP establishment side of the party that is clashing here and Gab seems to be caught up in the middle of it.
I don't know why.
I cannot explain it to you.
But what I could tell you about Governor Abbott is that, you know, just last week, he announced that he was going to take a stand against big tech censorship.
Meanwhile, last October, he signed a 17 billion dollar deal with Amazon and is courting the big tech giants that are censoring I mean, I was looking at some of our stats last night.
tens of millions of Americans, most of which are conservatives, Trump supporters, Christians, et cetera.
So, you know, he's talking out one side of his mouth about big tech censorship.
And on the other hand, he's making, you know, multi-billion dollar deals with, you know, big tech companies like Amazon and bashing big tech competitors like Gab.
So I think the voters in Texas are paying attention to this.
I mean, I was looking at some of our stats last night.
In the past 24 hours alone, we had 800,000 people visit Gab from Texas.
So we have a lot of voters that are in Texas and they're paying attention to these things.
And I think that he's going to pay the price for it come primary season.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
Look, we know Ken Paxson, the great Attorney General, is trying to take on Big Tech, but here's what I'm confused about.
I just wanna make sure we get this.
No one on his staff reached out to you.
No one down there that you know came to you about any issues, about, hey, we got some problems here, but nobody came and said, hey, we think you're an anti-Semitic site, or people have approached us and told us you're anti-Semitic.
There's been no communication, no reach out.
This totally kept you, hit you from left field, and After it's happened, there's been no reach out.
andrew torba
Absolutely.
Yeah, we had no prior reach out, no reach out after the outrage.
I mean, this story blew up last night and this morning and this afternoon.
It was all that everybody was talking about in the movement.
So I think that their office probably heard from quite a number of people that use Gab, a lot of prominent people talking about this, a lot of people that aren't even on Gab, that aren't big fans of Gab, that were very supportive of this in this effort.
I mean, Listen, Steve, Gab is not an anti-Semitic platform.
I don't even know what that means.
We protect political speech of Americans and of people around the world, regardless of viewpoint.
So Gab is a viewpoint-neutral platform.
As long as what you are saying is legal, meaning it's not a threat of violence, you're not doing illegal activity or criminal activity, it's allowed on the site.
And apparently, Governor Abbott doesn't agree with that, even though he's out there saying that he's gonna put a stop to big tech censorship.
So there's this, blatant hypocrisy coming from him within the span of a week.
He said this last week that he was gonna go after big tech.
And now he's bashing Gab in public for no reason, with no reach out to us, no communication with us.
unidentified
I mean, that was my first thought.
It's how can you fight big tech and then attack a free speech platform?
You were doing exactly what we, the social media influencers, have been calling for and begging for.
And you're out there doing it, and now you're getting attacked for it.
And this wasn't just saying, oh, there's some questionable stuff on the site.
He actually said an anti-Semitic platform.
So, I was completely shocked to see this and, I mean, it just makes me question Governor Abbott's, you know, where's he, who told him to do this, basically, because clearly he doesn't really know or doesn't use the site.
raheem kassam
Andrew, let me ask you a question.
Go ahead, if you want to respond to Mitch first.
andrew torba
Well, I was just going to say, it's a big disservice to, you know, again, the 30 million people that are using our platform, including many of them who are Jewish.
And many of our customers are Jewish.
Many of our active users are Jewish.
So this is a complete disservice to them and to this community of tens of millions of people that we're building.
steve bannon
Have any of you Jewish users or any of the Jewish people that use the site or groups that use the site, have people approached your management team to say, hey, we think this is turning into an anti-Semitic platform or is a problem.
We think we're being attacked because we're Jews or it's a state of Israel.
andrew torba
Has anybody come to you No, but what they have been doing over the course of this afternoon and this morning has been very publicly supporting us.
They're replying to the Governor Abbott tweet and saying, listen, I'm a Jew, I'm a customer of Gab, I'm an active user of Gab.
Sometimes I see stuff that I don't agree with, that I don't like, but I'm an adult and Gab has a block button and an unfollow button and that's just the way the world works.
With free speech, you know, comes free association as well.
And that's something that a lot of people disconnect.
So, you know, we give you the ability and the tools to disassociate with people that you don't, you know, agree with or that you don't like or that you believe that their content is objectionable.
But I'm not going to sit here and decide, you know, what is objectionable and what isn't.
And, you know, I'm not going to play speech police like big tech does.
We have very clear lines in the sand.
We allow legal political speech on the site.
We do not allow criminal or illegal activity or speech.
And it's just that simple.
So, you know, what we have seen from the Jewish community on the platform is a support of us saying, you know, I use this platform.
I'm Jewish.
I've seen some stuff I don't like, but I just use the block button when I see that.
And by the way, I see that every day on Twitter.
I see it every day on Facebook.
You know, that type of content is not mutually exclusive to Gap.
That type of content is all over the Internet.
And I would argue that it's actually much worse on a place like Twitter or a place on Facebook.
unidentified
Andrew, let me ask you this question.
Does the Ayatollah of Iran have a Gab account?
andrew torba
He does not, no.
raheem kassam
And the Ayatollah of Iran does have a Twitter account?
andrew torba
Correct.
raheem kassam
And the Ayatollah of Iran has used a Twitter account to spread anti-Semitic messages?
andrew torba
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And, you know, taking it further than that... You're a Jewish hater.
raheem kassam
Jewish, Jewish hater.
Let me just clarify one thing real quick.
Has Governor Abbott ever criticized Twitter for allowing that to happen?
andrew torba
Not that I've seen.
And, you know, again, taking it one step further, I think the subject that a lot of people do not discuss is the child exploitation that is going on on Facebook and Twitter.
Everybody buries this under the rug.
Facebook is the number one place on the Internet for child exploitation, according to FBI statistics.
85% of child exploitation reports come from Facebook, right?
Nobody's talking about this.
They're allowed to process payments.
They're allowed to have banks.
They're allowed to be on app stores.
And this disgusting behavior, this disgusting and criminal and immoral behavior is going on on their platforms.
And they're funding this behavior by allowing it to happen.
raheem kassam
Let me just read something for the audience here, and this is a tweet sent four minutes ago.
I have no idea who it's from, but it's on Twitter, and I found it with the search of one word.
And I'll censor it, but it says, damn, n-words get in trouble for saying k-word, but it's just a word when a non-coloured says n-word.
That's on Twitter, right now, sent four minutes ago.
steve bannon
With those words totally spelled out, and you can read them right there.
andrew torba
That stuff is all over Twitter, it's all over Facebook, it's all over YouTube, it's everywhere.
But because it's also on Gab, in very small amounts by the way, are there people that post objectionable stuff?
Yeah, of course.
It's the internet.
There's a lot of people that post objectionable stuff.
Is objectionable content illegal?
No.
I believe that sunlight is the best disinfectant for this stuff.
And when you try to shove these people off the internet and prevent them from communicating, what you're also preventing is other people Uh, from intervening and saying, what are you talking about here?
Why are you talking like this?
Why are you, why are you talking about these people like this and having a conversation and maybe opening up their minds and changing their minds, but they don't have that ability if they're kicked off the platforms completely.
So, you know, my philosophy is that sunlight is the best disinfectant and that having some sort of conversation with these people in dialogue versus totally shutting them out is the better course of action here.
steve bannon
Well, we know you're not going to back down.
We know you're also not going to allow yourself to be de-platformed or de-banked or de-financed.
How do people get to you, Andrew, so they can follow you during the day?
How do they get to Gab?
andrew torba
Gab.com forward slash A. That's me.
steve bannon
Andrew Torba, thank you very much for joining us in the War Room and clearing that up.
andrew torba
Thanks, guys.
steve bannon
This is bizarre that this happened, right?
You know, you've got these platforms out there, and look, I'm agnostic.
You know, I want Telegram, I want Rumble, I want Gab, Mike Lindell's new platform, let a thousand flowers bloom, right?
Innovation, competition, all that.
But there's something, why that would come out of right field like that, there's something not right with that, and we've got to figure it out.
unidentified
In the last minute, I've published a story on thenationalpulse.com, read it in the break.
steve bannon
Short commercial break.
Back with Dr. Peter Navarro about tonight's speech and the one-year anniversary of the pandemic.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
ben bergquam
Thank you all.
unidentified
So for our podcast and radio audience, that was a video today.
steve bannon
They changed around the baton order to make sure that Biden would sign the COVID-19 bill before his talk tonight to the nation, which I think they're not going to do live, but we'll have to find out.
And they cut off this aspect.
When he puts the pen down, he walks out and the media is asking questions and Kamala Harris is guiding him out there.
unidentified
Oh, no.
raheem kassam
If you look very closely, you can see a leash.
But seriously, listen to the noise in the background.
Thank you guys, thank you guys, get out, thank you guys, thank you guys, thank you guys.
steve bannon
That's the handlers moving them away.
raheem kassam
That's no questions, don't even try.
steve bannon
How many days with the unaccompanied press?
ben bergquam
51.
steve bannon
51 days.
Even ABC News, even the mainstream media is saying, because they're being put on notice here, that hey, these guys are going to run it the way they're going to run it.
You've got to totally protect this guy.
But that was outrageous.
CNN had just played that clip and will not show The media trying to ask some basic questions, right?
With Trump they were throwing out the biggest haters in the world.
raheem kassam
Just on that point really quick, ABC News today reported that, you know, even as the nation faces multiple crises, etc, etc, Biden won't take questions.
This is an unprecedented refusal to take questions from the press.
And I went into the comments section on the ABC story, they had about 500 comments this morning, and I saw all these liberals going, well he doesn't have the time, he's busy, you know, he's dealing with the pandemic, blah blah blah.
So then I went back and I pulled the CNN reporting from last week of an article that's entitled, Inside the New President's Routine, Oval Office Fires and Early Bedtimes.
And it talks about him literally not Going through reports, briefings, all of this and saying he goes to bed early.
So, he has the time.
steve bannon
He's totally protected.
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steve bannon
No slippers in the war room.
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OK, Dr. Peter Navarro, one year ago today, one of the most important days in the Trump presidency.
I know you worked a lot on this.
You've got it now you see what's happening today. I want first your observations on What you just saw there with with being?
peter navarro
You know basically escorted out with the media not getting their questions answered that didn't happen much for Donald J. Trump did it First of all I know there's no comedy in the war room, but I do hope there'll be some plaid slippers for Rahim having said that It's really kind of incredible Steve that it's only been a year only been a year between the time that President Trump made that speech about the pandemic and now
because so much has happened But I should note for the record that there was a show, I think it was called War Room Pandemic, two months before that.
And there was a guy, an assistant to the president, oh, maybe me, who in the end of January declared this thing a pandemic.
So, just saying.
steve bannon
But hold it, also for the record, you were fought, hang on, you were fought every step of the way.
Every step of the way.
And the president was fought by Tony Fauci.
unidentified
Fauci, Redfield, Azar, Mulvaney, Mark Short.
steve bannon
By the way, CNN and MSNBC, where were they?
They didn't want to say it.
Nancy Pelosi's down in Chinatown saying this is all racist, this is all nativist.
raheem kassam
I've actually read the whistleblower report that actually goes in to talk about how Navarro was the only one I used to be a nice guy before I got to the White House.
steve bannon
I've got a slightly different take on what Biden's doing.
peter navarro
here keep going I used to be a nice guy before I got to the White House but anyway look I've got a slightly different take on what Biden is doing I feel right now as an American on the outside of that perimeter that there's a there's this evil wing within the Democratic Party which is simply having their way with us They are just they are having their way with us.
And Biden really doesn't need to say anything to stir up this pot.
They just got us down and they're having their way with us.
And everything they do, whether it's 100 executive orders or the signing of this bill, by construction, is designed to consolidate the power
I mean, if you look carefully at that bill, besides some necessary relief to some people who are definitely hurting because of this pandemic, small businesses, workers at the lower end of the income stream, besides all of that, and that's a relatively small portion of the bill, it's basically a very smart handout
To all the Democrat Party constituents as a way to consolidate their power and ingratiate those people to the party and basically build their base.
And it's really, I won't call it genius, I mean it's just pure pork barrel politics, but when I reflect on the difference between what we did in the White House, you know, the President, you have a press conference and you take any and all questions, And invariably it would end badly because some jerk like Jim Acosta would control, whatever.
Biden doesn't do that, but in the meantime, they're actually getting a lot done, which again is just having their way with us.
steve bannon
I mean, people, I think, when they realize... Well, one of the reasons they're having their way with us, why is the Senate, why is the House, why is conservative media, why is Fox, why are people not... McCarthy... This bill is one of the most radical pieces of legislation, and it's got funding.
You don't have to go back to appropriations.
It's got 1.9 trillion dollars of money available today.
This is a transformative deal, and they know that.
Why is nobody fighting back on this?
peter navarro
The essence of this show...
Steve, is to provide people watching with the granularity to understand just how badly They are having their way with us and also to show them the tools of organization to move towards 2022.
But I will say this again and again and again.
If we don't get rid of the people on Capitol Hill, the Republicans who are keeping their mouth shut and allowing that razor wire, not raising a stink, not fighting this, this, this package, this bailout package, and it's McCarthy, it's McConnell, It's Scalise.
It's Cheney.
Those people are not MAGA.
Those people do not support Trump Republicanism.
Those people are poison.
They are poison.
And they need to be gotten rid of.
And it's the same thing with the people who still surround Donald J. Trump.
I mean, the people who are advising him on the media, who are advising him on campaigns and all that, that's going to end badly as well.
And what we need is a cleansing experience where Where we get the mad, the Gateses, which you call the fire breathers, in control of that party and it's going to break my heart if we work really hard over the next two years to change that majority and we wind up with those jerks in there.
Abbott, let me say that, Governor friggin' Abbott, that whole stuff he did today with his remarks, that guy The way the CCP gets you, Steve, politicians, Americans, either honeypots like Swalwell, sleeping his way up and down the California coast with a Chinese spy, Getting his spy transmitted disease, that STD, or it's money pots.
In these states like Texas, all 50 of them just love to grab that money from the CCD.
steve bannon
Hang on, slow down.
You're ahead of the story.
Hang on, I know you're on fire.
peter navarro
I'm hot as a firecracker.
unidentified
I got some seeing right now. I just you know you got it together sound like Bannon you sound like Bannon, okay?
steve bannon
the national Uh-oh!
Okay, fine, fine.
Go ahead, sir.
Okay, fine, fine.
Put a pin in that for another day.
Hang on, because I've got to go back.
National Pulse, once again, Natalie Winters-Rohingyas on this team.
Best, I think, site around that revolver.
Breaking news.
unidentified
Hold it.
Breaking news.
steve bannon
And we may have to bump the cold open for the next thing.
I've got to get into this.
You've got to tell us, the audience, what got Navarro and Bannon so worked up now, where our heads are blowing up.
What is the National Pulse reporting about Governor Abbott, the guy that just called Gab an anti-Semitic site, an anti-Semitic platform that does not back Texas values?
What's the report from the National Pulse?
raheem kassam
So in 2017, Governor Abbott met with Chinese Consul General in Houston, Li Qingming.
Sorry if I mispronounce it, Madam Zheng Hongyan, Deputy Consul General Liu Hongmei, Commercial Counsellor Xu Zhencheng, and expressed the will to do more business with the Chinese Communist Party.
But that's not all.
In 2019, Governor Abbott actually sent a letter to celebrate the 70th anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party.
And we have dug that out.
We've reported it today.
Just think about this.
He criticizes GAB, but he's willing to work with a genocidal regime that has spread a dangerous killer virus around the world.
steve bannon
Not work with them.
unidentified
Send them a letter saying, hey, congratulations, 70 years by the way.
steve bannon
By the way, the Great Famine, the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution, what is it?
100 million Chinese murdered by this murderous dictatorship?
And you're sending them?
It'd be like sending a thing for the 70th anniversary of the Nazi Party!
raheem kassam
Correct.
steve bannon
What are you doing?
And he's got the gall to call them an anti-Semitic platform?
I gotta tell you, I think there's gonna be a big ol' primary fight down in Texas.
Okay, we're gonna return in a minute with Dr. Navarro.
We got Ben Burkham on the border.
It's getting even hotter in the second half of the 5 o'clock show in the War Room.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to go to Ben Berquam in a second here.
We're going to bring that video up right now on the border.
Peter, give us your assessment of Governor Abbott congratulating the Chinese Communist Party on their 70th anniversary, sir.
peter navarro
Money pot.
He's got both arms elbow-deep in money coming from the Chinese Communist Party.
Typical behavior of local and state politicians in America.
It's disgusting.
There are concentration camps right now in Communist China with over 2 million people in there, and if they're not making slave labor stuff for Maiden China to stuff into Walmart, They're organ donors that are being put to sleep and have their organs taken.
Shame on you, Governor Abbott.
Shame on you, Joe Biden, for saying it's okay because they've got different cultural norms to slaughter people.
steve bannon
Dr. Navarro, hang on a second.
We've got live coverage here right now.
This is not Texas.
This is actually Arizona, down in Yuma, Arizona.
It's Ben Burquam.
raheem kassam
This is not film.
This is live.
unidentified
This is live.
steve bannon
We have a crew down there.
Real America Voice has this team down there.
Ben Berquam.
We just got the camera on.
And that's folks just walking across where there's a gap in the wall.
Right?
It's the 310 to Yuma.
310 people.
Right?
Now this is what... I'm not following these people.
They're incentivized to come across.
You heard Jen Psaki yesterday.
You're going to get medical.
You're going to be taken care of.
You're going to get welfare.
You're going to get all of it.
Right there.
So let's get Ben Burquam.
Peter, can you see?
We're going to keep Dr. Navarro.
We're going to bring him back with his assessment of the border.
Ben, this is unbelievable.
Tell us what's going on in Yuma.
Hey Ben, do we have Ben Burquam?
ben bergquam
Hey Steve, let me move up this way.
We're going to head up there.
I've got some audio.
We're right on the Mexico border, so my signal's not coming in very clear, but you guys can see behind me, this is another group.
We've been having groups all day.
I just got, actually right as I drove up here to Yuma, as I was driving up, one group came across, about 20, and then we just saw this group of five young men cross as well.
So, this is happening all day, again, in Yuma, in the open section of the border wall.
steve bannon
But this is a question the audience going to have is that are they being met as customer border like meet these folks and send them back over to Mexico?
What what is the process when they're just walking through into US territory?
ben bergquam
This is this.
This is it.
So this is we're going back to the Obama era.
of catch and release.
They come through, they basically say the right words, they're coming for asylum.
You can see right behind me, they sit down, they just said they're coming from Honduras, five young men, and they bring them into America.
Here in Yuma, they don't have a detention center, so what they're having to do is ship them to Calexico or to other cities, Blythe, several hundred miles away from here, and even those facilities are getting overrun now as well.
And this is just the beginning, it all happens, all of this, I was here about a year and a half ago, this wall wasn't here, and there were 900 people, I was here for a weekend, 900 people crossed through.
And this is just the beginning.
It all happens, all of this.
I was here about a year and a half ago.
This wall wasn't here.
And there were 900 people.
I was here for a weekend, 900 people crossed through.
It was President Trump's and the administration's Remain in Mexico policy that stopped it.
It was President Trump's and the administration's Remain in Mexico policy that stopped it.
unidentified
That policy allowed Border Patrol to do their job, And even those facilities are getting overrun now as well.
ben bergquam
That policy allowed Border Patrol to do their job.
It allowed them to apprehend people crossing the border illegally and then send them immediately back to Mexico to await their asylum hearings.
Now, because Biden rescinded the Remain in Mexico policy, they come in and they're invited into America and they're asked pretty pleased, will you show up for your hearing in three to five years from now?
And they all say, yes, we'll show up, and most of them don't.
steve bannon
So, Ben, you know, this is the first anniversary of President Trump's discussion in naming it a pandemic.
Biden's up tonight with a one point nine trillion dollar bill on the American taxpayers back here.
It's going to be international debt.
Any of those guys being tested?
Has anybody got masks?
I thought Arizona, these places, there's still mask requirements.
What is going on?
Are people being tested?
Did they go to the center and be tested?
It looks like it's just open, you know, the CNN and the administration is supposed to be so evidence-based, data-based, science-based.
What's going on about this plague that came from China that's now, it looks like just coming through the border with nobody being tested?
ben bergquam
No, only if they go into ICE custody.
So right now, these guys, you can see Border Patrol is interacting with them as we speak.
No masks on these guys.
But like you said, if I go into the town of Yuma, which is, you know, a couple mile away from me, up the road, you still have to wear a mask if you go into a business, if you rent a hotel room.
All of this, the businesses, a lot of the businesses are still shut down here.
But yet, this is the Biden administration, no problem with this.
And it's not just COVID, it's tuberculosis, it's yellow fever, it's MERS and SARS, and there's all kinds of other things that are coming up.
And the bottom line is, we just don't know.
But right here, clearly, they're not getting COVID tested here.
From what I've heard, it's only if they get into ICE custody, which is, you know, that's 50 points of contact away from where we're at right now.
raheem kassam
Well, they're not getting COVID tested.
They're not getting cartel tested.
Ben, I want to understand from you, just so the audience at home understands, these people look young.
They could be in their late teens.
I don't know, right?
We don't know.
What do you suspect?
What is the, on aggregate, what happens with people like that, that just live came in over the border behind you?
What's going to happen to them?
ben bergquam
They're going to be shipped to a community near you.
This is what happens.
We saw it under Obama.
We saw it in the first year and a half of President Trump before he was able to change a lot of that, rescind a lot of the policies, the Obama policies.
What they'll do is they will get a bus ticket to somewhere in America or a plane ticket.
You go to some of these airports.
I was at the Clint Border Patrol.
You go to the El Paso Airports down in McAllen, McAllen Airport.
You'll see people with manila envelopes and they just send them somewhere in America.
A lot of communities are inviting them.
You've got California that basically says that everybody's welcome.
While California's economy is dying and being destroyed, they're filling up our communities with people and that's basically what they have to do because these facilities are completely overrun.
They're impacted.
Now, some of them, the children, and this is the sad part, we have some video from this morning, literally as I drove up, there were about 20 people came across, most of them children, men with children, and what we're being told by Border Patrol is a minimum of one-third, is their estimate, of these children are being brought over by men that are not their father, and that these children are being recycled.
So what, now you see these guys are just five young men that came across on their own, But a lot of it is men bringing children, and in one case here, where I'm standing, the previous chief border patrol agent down here said that there was a child that was found to have been recycled 17 times.
That means that child was used, brought up by a man, and then sent back.
This is also the location, right off in the reeds to my right, where I video Where we found basically a rape bed where it was a sweater that was left on the ground and multiple condoms and lubricant.
It's just evil, evil, evil what is happening here.
steve bannon
Is that the footage?
I want to play the footage.
So explain to the audience this footage from early this morning, Ben.
What is going on here?
ben bergquam
So, I just drove up.
We just got lucky that they were coming up when we were live right now, but I drove up.
As I was driving up, there was a van for transport here, and I got out of the car, and this is what I saw.
steve bannon
This is all cartel-controlled, right?
Those people are walking across.
The cartel basically controls the Mexican side, essentially the U.S.
side, too.
Correct.
ben bergquam
Let me get out of the shot here real quickly.
Let me get out of the shot here real quick where the cartel actually is set up.
I'm going to get out of the shot here real quick and just show you this.
So right across the way here, the cartel coyotes, they are set up.
They've got vehicles set up.
They bring them in.
There's actually buses that will come in as well.
And they have to pay to come across.
So there's another group of people that's getting organized over there, and that's going to be the next group that comes across.
It looks like they're coming right now.
You can kind of see them coming down the hill.
So that will be the next group.
And there's a coyote that sits over there and controls all that.
And when I say coyote, that's a cartel member who sits over there and takes money from these people.
steve bannon
Are you going to be doing other reporting tonight on Real America's Voice?
We've got to jump.
Are you going to be doing other reporting tonight?
ben bergquam
Or how can people get to your... I will.
We're going to be heading into Mexico.
We're going to be heading into Mexico, doing some reporting over there.
I can't say exactly where.
And then we'll be back here tomorrow as well.
steve bannon
Okay, you're going to be on the show tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock.
We also got Michael Yon.
Michael Yon's at the other side of it.
He's down in Panama, at the other end of the Darien Gap, how it's all coming through.
We're going to report.
Remember, this is a human tragedy.
Don't think it's easy for these people coming across.
These cartels are brutal.
These cartels are the ones that put 25 human beings in a SUV that can fit eight.
They don't care about these people.
These people are just profits for them.
I want to go now to Dr. Peter Navarro.
By the way, Rahim, you nailed it.
You know what this looks like?
The migrant crisis of 2015.
raheem kassam
Remember, in Turkey, the people traffickers would take €10,000 and then send people across the border.
unidentified
That's exactly what's going on here.
steve bannon
Bernkron is doing a great job.
Navarro.
You're a specialist in looking at the economics of this.
We've got a couple of minutes.
I know this is a human tragedy, but talk to people about the pressure this is going to put on on this side of the border where nobody's being tested.
The working class Hispanics on this side of the border are the ones that are the real victims here.
It's on their shoulder this is all going to rest.
Dr. Navarro.
peter navarro
I got two things for you and your audience.
This is a preview.
There's a cold open you can show.
Which has a boat coming over from one side of the river to the other filled with illegal immigrants.
And what's interesting about it is if you listen to the Spanish, there's a couple of things they're saying.
One is that they use the word tranquilo, which is like, hey, this is no big deal, okay?
These people are not stressed out.
They're just hanging in.
But there's also a joke that a woman makes about whether they've already got visas for them, okay?
So this is the atmosphere.
It's kind of like a celebration of atmosphere.
So when you play that clip, Tune your ear and try to hear that.
Now, at the micro level, I always go from the micro to the macro level, you got four young men coming across that border who will enter the workforce.
One of two things are going to happen.
They're either going to take the jobs of working class Americans, probably brown or black Americans, outright, or at a minimum, they're going to enter that workforce with an additional supply of labor
And then if you scale that up, as you see all the 350 come up, what you see is when they get to the sanctuary states and cities, please understand this, it's impossible then to check their papers.
And at the same time, they're eligible for all of the money that's embedded by the way This is the big picture here, Steve.
People gotta understand that there's all these different moving parts, but when you connect all these dots, what you've got is a power-hungry Democratic Party trying to stuff its future ballot boxes and buying off its constituencies And basically changing the entire fabric of America.
That's what's going on and war room pandemic is really at the epicenter of that because I'm not seeing anybody else cover this other than of course things like the National Pulse and Justin News.
But this is the story and the fact that everybody's so laid back about it now.
They're not afraid of Trump anymore.
They're not afraid of Donald J. Trump anymore.
They love Joe Biden.
They have bigger rallies for Joe Biden south of the border than they ever had during the campaign.
And why should he talk to the press, Steve?
steve bannon
Peter, Dr. Navarro, we're going to get you back on tomorrow and give you an assessment of what goes on tonight with that speech.
I want to thank you very much.
How do people get to your site and how do they follow you during the day, sir?
peter navarro
Let's download the report on immigration from PeterNavarro.com and the Election Irregularities Report.
Real P. Navarro on Twitter, although I'm trying to wean myself from that so we get to Gab and some of these other things.
I urge everybody else to hedge their bets as well.
Get on these other platforms.
Wean yourself from the bad guys.
steve bannon
In ten seconds, you project out this year, how many crossings will there be?
What is your number?
Was it two million or two and a half million?
peter navarro
I think, my guess, my educated estimate, is at least two million this year and maybe two to three million the next year.
So we're going to have five million new immigrants and that runs into the billions and billions and billions.
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steve bannon
Okay, we got breaking news all over.
Raheem?
raheem kassam
Super breaking news out of the Daily Caller.
The researcher, Peter Daszak, that we talked about weeks ago here.
We did a huge expose.
steve bannon
Funded by Daszak.
Funded by Fauci.
raheem kassam
All of the CCP links of Peter Daszak and the WHO team.
Now Daszak is admitting that he did not ask to see the Wuhan lab data, claiming it was irrelevant.
But what's more important, later on in this article Daszak says, quote, I've seen incredible efforts from everything from Falun Gong to Steve Bannon's group pushing the conspiracy theories around China.
It's useful to them.
They're funding it and pushing it and science has been, to some extent, caught up in that, to other instances, absolutely crushed by it.
steve bannon
Not crushed enough.
And we're looking, by the way, science is on our side Dasik.
So brother, we're coming and we're coming hard.
OK, you know exactly what you're on.
You're all part of it.
This came out of the Wuhan lab.
OK, more breaking news.
Maggie Vanderbilt.
unidentified
We've got some breaking news here in Washington, D.C.
There was a bipartisan call for drawdown in the National Guard presence at the Capitol from leaders of the House Armed Services Committee. And yes, these lawmakers are calling for a review so that the National Guard can go home and get out of D.C. This is because of the relentless pursuit by Maggie and Fox City Midge about the... This show's been talking about it and I went out and I hit the streets the last couple days and I was interviewing people.
I was speaking with some protesters who were outside of the fence and just getting general impressions.
People are very unhappy here.
steve bannon
She's a filmmaker.
That's what Maggie is.
She's made an incredible film.
We're going to show you a couple of minutes of it as a tease so you can go to her site and get it.
Can Denver please play this new short film?
ben bergquam
This is what the Democrats are doing.
unidentified
They are not right.
This is wrong.
ben bergquam
They're wasting taxpayer dollars on this fence.
They're wasting money with the military being here.
unidentified
I was in the military.
I know what these guys are going through.
They're serving their country.
They're here for the right reason.
Well, we got corrupt people in our capital that are not here for the people.
This barbed wire, all this, this needs to go.
We need to have freedom in our capital.
ben bergquam
We need to be land of the free again.
You know, home of the brave.
unidentified
We can come here and have pride in our capital.
ben bergquam
I can't have pride today.
steve bannon
This is a shame.
unidentified
It's kind of scary, you know.
I mean, you look at it and it looks like they're in Vietnam.
I think they should take it down, really.
I think they should.
I'm appalled at the fact that our nation has resorted to having to have a border around the buildings that house our government.
And I'm saddened by that because I feel that it's not my nation anymore.
It's not the home of the free and the brave.
It's a nation that's under siege, and I'm appalled by the whole thing.
It's deceitful.
I think it's overplayed.
It feels like bondage.
It's just disrupting life, and I'm not sure what kind of a statement it's making about the land of the free and the home of the brave.
I'm going to quote Ronald Reagan.
Mr. Gorbachev, take this wall down.
Nancy Pelosi and Mayor Bowser, take this wall down.
For those that travel a lot, we always can tell if a country is free or not free.
And the way you tell is you go to the capital.
And in free countries, the capital is always noisy.
You know, there's women protesting and farmers protesting and unions protesting.
But in non-free countries, they always have one We have one thing in common.
The area around the Capitol is totally silent.
And that's what really scares us.
Because this area has always been noisy.
People around all the time.
And for the first time, the walls are up, not to protect the people.
The walls are there to protect the people inside.
So we escaped communism to come here.
Where do we go now?
I like most Americans don't think that it should stay up for this period of time unless there is some credible threat it should come down and open the city back up.
Me and my kids used to come down here all the time during the summer on nice days and we'd be able to come down enjoy the scenery here at Capitol Hill.
Now it's like when you come down it doesn't feel like home.
It's not right for Our locals, our children and all that to come down here and feel like we're looking at a military installation overseas somewhere because that's what it looks like.
I just find this fence and the barbed wire heartbreaking because this is America, the land of the free, and this does not represent America and the American people.
Take the wall down.
This is America.
We are the land of the free.
It does not belong here.
Our audience who can't see there's a just a final clip of just me in driving and I sped up the clip and you're just seeing this miles and miles of fencing surrounding our capital and yeah, it's just devastating and if you watch the long version actually you can see the homeless encampments and the military out there and you realize that this this is a much bigger deal than the media's making of it.
steve bannon
She's an extraordinary filmmaker.
That is very powerful.
And you've done that in the last couple of days as you were shocked.
unidentified
I didn't even have a crew.
I was out there most of the time either asking a stranger, can you hold my phone real quick?
Or I was holding the phone and the mic myself and then editing it together when I wasn't down here.
steve bannon
Yeah.
unidentified
That was amazing.
steve bannon
It's amazing.
And so how do people get the full version?
I think it's five and a half minutes long.
How do people go?
unidentified
I'm going to post that on my YouTube and my Rumble channel later.
If you guys aren't following me on Rumble, I'm brand new.
It's going to be my first video up there, but yeah, it's going to be on Fog City Midge, YouTube, Rumble, and follow me on Telegram too.
steve bannon
Okay, Telegram, all of it.
That is extraordinarily powerful.
You went out and these things are incredible.
So the five minute version people want to see.
unidentified
Think about the journey we've been on in the last hour.
Right.
Think about all the issues we covered in the last hour.
This is one of the most powerful shows I think we've ever done.
Yes.
And I want everybody to make sure you go out there.
It's going to be on Rumble afterwards.
It's going to be on the podcast.
Make sure more people see it.
steve bannon
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And I want to thank the guys in Denver, and I particularly want to thank Real America's Voice.
Ben Berquam is doing some of the best reporting out there.
And tomorrow we're going to start, we're going to go now to Michael Yan.
Michael Yan was in Columbia, at one side of the Darien Gap.
He's going to be on the other side in Panama.
This is where the cartels start picking him up.
This is a brutal journey for these people.
But why are they coming?
Because they're being offered something by Joe Biden.
That's absolutely, this is a humanitarian crisis, as Rahim Ghassan says, that he has created.
Right.
This is a created by human action.
OK, this is an unforced error.
And this thing is going to explode.
We were we were we were covering the migrant crisis.
Remember in Germany back in 2015, we did the thing in 2019.
This is going to be this.
They're going to pale in comparison.
Peter Navarro said five million in the next two years.
Okay.
Tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
Rejoin us.
We're going to have more live coverage of the border.
Also Biden's talk tonight.
And I think a special surprise guest.
Maggie will be here to talk about a film.
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