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Episode 780 – War Room Special ‘Death by the CCP’: Part 2 (w/ Dr. Navarro, Dr. Yan, Ramaswamy)Episode 780 – War Room Special ‘Death by the CCP’: Part 2 (w/ Dr. Navarro, Dr. Yan, Ramaswamy)
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
You don't want to frighten the American public.
unidentified
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
This is going to be a real serious problem.
unidentified
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
one.
Every day, more people in the street.
Said I used to work in a factory.
Right now, I don't work for anything I'm just a guy who's just trying to make a living.
I'm just a guy who's just trying to make a living.
steve bannon
Okay, that is the song, Death by China, from the film Death by China.
It came out in the 2012 campaign.
Dr. Peter Navarro.
We'll put that in the live chat and make sure everybody can get to listen to the entire thing.
Was that Bruce Springsteen that was singing?
Was that your music too, or was that his music?
peter navarro
That was the Bruce Springsteen that really cares about American factory jobs.
steve bannon
It's a song about America's being gutted by the Chinese Communist Party.
So you were listening, this is our special today, our Saturday special on death by the CCP.
We're about to bring in, in a moment, the War Room Woman of the Year of the Year 2020, Dr. Li Min Yan.
Before I get there, you and Dr. Fauci, you're the truth teller here about Fauci and the confrontation he's had with Fauci over science, facts, and evidence, which the mainstream media continue to throw that mantra out.
But they have guys like Fauci who are a total clown, because we can go back and document everything that's been wrong.
We don't have time for that today, we'll do that another day.
But I want to be very specific about the Wuhan lab.
WHO just went over there, and we've got the Financial Times of London said on their very first day, which I will bring up, the number one paper in the world, WHO team says Wuhan lab leak highly unlikely, highly unlikely at source of virus.
Well, the WHO walked that back the next day because they don't understand the overwhelming evidence that shows that's not the case.
I want to talk very quickly about Fauci, Fauci's involvement, this thing of gain-of-function experiments, NIH, and were they the funding source?
And if he's the funding source, shouldn't he be the guy that's overseeing this stuff that was happening in the Wuhan lab?
Dr. Peter Navarro.
peter navarro
St.
Fauci.
is arguably the source of this entire CCP virus.
You can make a very strong argument that he is the fountainhead of this and it goes like this.
Gain-of-function is basically a scientific tool which makes viruses weaponized.
And the logic of using it in science is that, okay, if we can weaponize it, then we can figure out a cure for it.
Okay?
That would be the peaceful interpretation.
But the warful interpretation of it is simply, you're making a weapon.
steve bannon
And so... It's the reason they were shut down for so many years by the Obama administration.
peter navarro
It's curious, back in 2011, Fauci, along with his co-conspirator Francis Collins at NIH, actually wrote An op-ed article in support of gain of function on the premise that labs are secure.
And we know from history that there's literally hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of examples around the world including right here in the highest security labs we have that this stuff gets out.
So Fauci He was the one pushing for gain-of-function research in China, for the Chinese, not for the Americans.
He was pushing at the same time he was giving them money.
steve bannon
He was also pushing that it's not a linear progression from a P3 lab to a P4 lab, it's a geometric progression.
peter navarro
Logarithmic.
steve bannon
Logarithmic.
He was pushing for them to get P4 labs.
peter navarro
Let's think about this for your audience, okay?
We've got a virus that's killed over a half a million Americans, and the guy that the left trusts the most and puts out there, Dr. Anthony Fauci, may well be the guy who caused this by lobbying, essentially, for money to go to those Chinese labs And for them to be able to do gain-of-function research.
If I took that script to Hollywood, Steve, they'd say that that's over-the-top fiction, when in fact it's fact!
steve bannon
But he's been in front of many congressional committees.
Why has he never been asked a series of questions?
peter navarro
Orange men, bad.
Orange men, bad.
And plus, nobody really understood how dangerous this was before this pandemic hit.
I mean, I think that's part of the problem.
But again, we're going to go to Dr. Yan now, but let's think about this.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the fountainhead of the CCP virus, By pushing taxpayer money over to a Chinese weapons lab and giving them the green light to do gain-of-function research, which is to allow them to weaponize viruses.
steve bannon
I want to bring in Dr. Li Min Yan now.
She was at the reference lab, the WHO reference lab at University of Hong Kong, one of the finest labs in the world.
She was one of the lab technicians there in post-doc.
Getting her work.
She was also the individual that we know that was Told to make contact with Beijing CDC the very beginning days this in late guess when?
2019 okay, dr. Li Ming Yang.
I want to start off dr. Yan and by the way, dr You know for our audience has been with us for a while has been you know defector one of the bravest people we know and it was the 2020 woman of the year in the war room Dr. Navarro just used a very loaded term.
He said the Wuhan P4 lab is a weapons lab.
You're very familiar with the structure of the scientific community in mainland China.
Is Dr. Navarro right?
Is the P4 lab at Wuhan, is its principal focus and control by the People's Liberation Army or aspects of the People's Liberation Army?
And is your belief, given your knowledge, as a leading technician in the WHO reference lab in Hong Kong, is it a weapons lab?
dr li-meng yan
Good morning, sir.
And good morning, Dr. Navarro.
And first, I want to say I'm not a technician.
I'm the scientist in that lab.
And so basically, more than technique work, I also do the scientific research.
And the other thing is, I want to say that Dr. Navarro understands the Meaning behind the WIV P4 Lab.
But what I want to tell is, WIV Lab, the P4 Lab, is not the only one lab in China who's working like the military civil fusion labs for this kind of bioweapon products.
And basically, behind them is a big chain, including WHO reference lab in the University of Hong Kong, conducted by Professor Malik Peres.
Who came back recently as the co-head and the honored head in the Hong Kong Youth Pastoral Institute.
And also China military medical academic is the one behind it.
So that is a big plan to working on the unrestricted bioweapon which is not a traditional bioweapon in China conducted by the government in secret.
And what else I want to emphasize is still today we are talking rather this is a game of function product rather it comes out from the lab.
But that is still too slow, really not enough at all.
It's really like we were discussing whether there is human-to-human transmission in last January.
So I think U.S.
government and the world should understand this artificial virus, COVID-19 virus, is a bioweapon.
unrestricted bioweapon, which is beyond the traditional concept of bioweapon and make more damage not only for mortality, it's also for long-term damage and also economic, social disorder and destruction. Dr. Yan, you've had a number of papers come out.
steve bannon
You're working on a number of new papers, I know, and research.
Walk our audience through what you're coming out with in the next couple of weeks or next couple of months to further your argument that this is part of a bioweapons program.
dr li-meng yan
Okay, so first, I hope people to understand that my first two papers, one step by step, explain first Why does SARS-CoV-2 come out from the lab?
It's not from nature.
The second paper tells people the definition.
I raised that it is unrestricted by a weapon, and behind that is the largest academic scandal conducted by the Chinese Communist Party and also their partner scientists, including overseas scientists like people in Many, many scientists in the U.S.
even, like Peter Dudak or Christine Anderson, or many, many, I can list.
And my next coming report, I will publish it within, I think, two weeks, because I need to first respond to Roberto Gallo, the professor at the University of Maryland.
He writes some review in MIT Press, which utilizes to twist my papers and ruin my reputation. And also the John Hopkins University, Dr. Gigi, she is also one of the collaborators in this group, I mean, worked with Chinese Communist Party from the beginning to cover up the things. She also used a lot of misinformation to cheat the world and try to
ruin people's understanding of my report. So I will reveal both of these responses point to point in scientific way.
And also, my later report will focus on how to understand that this unrestricted bioweapon is not the only bioweapon candidate in China's military lab.
And also, this is a long-term plan launched by the Chinese Communist Party.
So this is definitely not a lab accident.
And if they win this time, as you already said, that they are celebrating their trophy, if you let them go on, US money will keep going to China, and the China government will use your money to develop their military constructions and also launch more unrestricted biowarfare to you, because you will still keep wasting your time arguing the concept
Dr. Yan, we've got to jump in.
steve bannon
How do people get access to your papers?
I know there was some controversy last time about how they could get access to them.
How do they get access to your papers and your social media so people can follow you?
dr li-meng yan
So first, in my pinned tweet, I mean, my Twitter account is still alive now, luckily.
People searched Dr. Li Meng Yan with over 70,000 followers.
That's the real my account.
And the pinned tweet, I linked the Zenodo links about my two published reports.
And for the coming report, I hope I won.
I hope I hold some press.
To publish it and also I want to invite those journalists who has wrote the lying papers, fake news to dismiss my information and also invite those scientists who want to talk about and insist on the nature origin theory to talk with me.
Let's share the open discussion in scientific way.
Talk about your evidence and I show my evidence and we can say Which side is more reliable with more solid evidences?
And these scientists, although they are authorised, authorise the top scientists that they may work in WHO, CDC, NIH, but let's see.
People now are treated by these people, it's like how people are treated by the religion in the Middle Age.
So we cannot let them hold the power to talk.
We'll have to let people to use the logic thinking and the common sense to understand the nature.
steve bannon
Dr. Yang, we've got to bolt, but the War Room is going to be a sponsor of that.
We're going to drive this message of yours and to confront the scientific community and the media about what went on in Wuhan and what the CCP has planned.
Thank you very much for joining us.
Dr. Lee Min Yang, formerly of Hong Kong University.
unidentified
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Okay, you, Dr. Navarro, were instrumental as one of the architects under President Trump of this economic set of policies that led in 2019 Two, the greatest economy for workers, for strivers, really in the history of the country, even including the post-war years that people consider the golden years now of America.
And, you know, we had, I think, 11% increases of wages, a historic low among working class people, Hispanic, African-American.
Uh, increasing wages for working class people of 11 percent, the striver's economy, non-high school graduates higher than, or high school graduates higher than college graduates, blue collar workers higher than managerial, although managerial did great, really kind of a renaissance of the American worker based upon these populist policies of President Trump.
And then all of a sudden, The Chinese, and by the way, in April and May of 2019, U.N.
Ambassador Lighthizer, under the guidance of the President, had this massive trade deal that would have taken away the seven deadly sins, when the Chinese Communist Party backed out of it and said, we're not going to do that, because that would really restructure our economy to fold into the world's economy in something that would be fair to both the Lao-Beijing, the deplorables of China, and the American and workers in the West.
It would get state-owned industries kind of dialed down.
It's just a brilliant plan.
They walk away from that.
2019 goes along.
We come back.
We get a mini-deal that starts.
You sign that deal on, I think, the 14th or 15th of January in the East Room of the White House.
And at that time, I'm up with Miles Guo.
We're doing our Lunar New Year presentation.
We understand there's not going to be a Lunar New Year in China for the first time in 10,000 years.
Nobody's going to travel.
They're going to shut down Shanghai.
But they're going to take a province, Ube province, the size of France, Which, the largest city there, Wuhan, has 40% more people than New York City, and they're going to put that in a hard quarantine.
We start this show, we take word on repeat, we're going to say, no, we're going to shift to pandemic.
There are, we are not, we do not believe in conspiracy theories, but there are no coincidences.
So how do we, when we got China, finally the CCP on their back foot, we got the Chinese people looking at this for leadership coming out of the United States, you got kind of Hong Kong on fire, You've got the entire littoral nations around the South China Sea saying, with American leadership, we're finally standing up to these guys, because we don't like them.
They're gangsters.
They're a regime.
They've enslaved their own people.
We've got the La Beijing on fire saying, hey, we can get a sense that our freedom could be coming.
We're going to fight for our freedom.
But it could be coming.
And then bang!
We've got a, not COVID-19, but a CCP virus.
How does, in the long scope of history, when people look at it right now, we're at each other's throats about this state's opening, this got a mask, got to get a double mask.
There's no discussion from the American elite, either the media or our leaders.
And that is on both sides of the aisle.
OK, you've got Jim Banks, a couple of guys running around doing some great stuff.
But I'm talking about the powers that be in these parties.
You've got Donald Trump that's done great, but you've got the rest of that apparatus that does not want to look reality in the eye and see what's happened here.
Dr. Navarro.
peter navarro
Steve, the original sin of the 2020 election was to split this country in half, whereby the left half, which is the anti-Trump mainstream media included in that Was to blame Orange Man for the pandemic.
That was the central strategy.
And by definition, if you blame Donald Trump for the pandemic, you could not blame the Chinese.
There was a mass suppression of anything that could possibly track back To the CCP in terms of this virus, whether it came from the lab, whether they were using to exploit Hong Kong, whether they were using the crisis to actually profiteer during it by sending us How did they exacerbate this crisis in January?
steve bannon
Walk people through quickly.
How did they exacerbate this in the last two weeks of January and the first two weeks of February of 2020 that made this explode to a global pandemic quickly?
peter navarro
In December, cases emerged, maybe as early as November.
They knew a pandemic was well possible.
What did they do, Steve?
They locked down their country.
They shut that country down tight.
But they also left their airports open for international flights.
And what effectively they did over a 60-day period was, first, they allowed hundreds of thousands of Chinese nationals to fly around to places like Milan and New York and everywhere in between.
To effectively seed and spread the virus.
Essentially, they guaranteed there would be a global pandemic simply by that action alone.
Now, we know that they knew that there was going to be a pandemic because the other thing they were doing during those 60 days was vacuuming up all... This is murder.
They vacuumed up all the personal protective equipment.
Now, please understand this.
China is the factory floor of the world.
Generally, they are a net exporter big time.
of personal protective equipment the gloves the goggles The N95 respirators.
steve bannon
And you knew at the time the capacity utilization of PPE and the ventilators and all that was going to be the gating event to stop this because of first-line health care workers.
peter navarro
Let's be clear why this is important.
The statistics from them over that 60-day period, well they hid it from the world with the help of the World Health Organization, which is still lying to us.
They vacuumed up all the PPE.
So when The first responders and the frontline health care workers in Milan and New York and Chicago and New Orleans, there simply wasn't enough.
There was a scarcity.
And then they had the nerve to try to sell it back to us at seven times the price.
And, you know, I'm in the White House.
It's like February 9th.
I write this memo.
It's like, hey, We need to secure our N95 respirator mask supply right now.
Why are those important?
All masks are not created equal.
The N95 is the one that you need for the health care workers because the N95 is basically a number that says what your filtration is and that's like the gold standard.
That's like what you want to wear.
We know that China did that, and now, once the pandemic got that genie out of the bottle, we've also seen them exploit the pandemic for geopolitical purposes, taking Hong Kong, basically trying to advance their geopolitical agenda by giving PPE to some countries, sometimes where they just bought it from to begin with.
I mean, it's heinous stuff.
The fact that the CNN, MSNBC, John Berman, Morning Joe, these people, the fact that they do not talk about this.
Here's something funny for you.
They'll talk about now the Brazilian strain of the virus, the South African strain of the virus, and the UK strain of the virus, yet they still won't refer to this as the CCP Wuhan virus.
This is the most successful Pearl Harbor attack that's never been covered by the press in history.
steve bannon
You're saying even if it leaked out, because Dr. Yan and others, Miles Guo, they think it absolutely sent out, but I'm from the leaked out, inadvertently, because of their incompetence.
You're saying even if that, they're actions that you have documented over the next 60 days, the lying and the misrepresentation at WHO.
peter navarro
It's irrefutable.
There's no Pinocchios here, okay?
It's irrefutable.
We know that they knew in early December that they had a dangerous virus that could lead to a pandemic.
We know that they hid it from the world so that they could go around and buy up All the PPE.
We know that they thought it was extremely deadly because they locked down their entire country and, Steve, we know that they left their international airports open so that the virus would go seed and spread around the world.
Okay?
There's only one conclusion you can draw from that, aside from the question of whether they let it escape purposely or accidentally.
Let's just say it was an accident.
Once they saw it was out, they knew how to exploit it.
And exploit it they did for both economic purposes, and for geopolitical purposes. They took us to our knees, our economy to our knees, they took Hong Kong, they put us in a position where they might be able to take Taiwan.
They are claiming they're rising. Xi Jinping, and by the way, let's not forget, Joe Biden has approved, like Neville Chamberlain did, of concentration camps in Xi Jinping province on the basis of China has different, quote, cultural norms.
That is the most heinous and racist thing I've ever heard.
steve bannon
From one of the great civilizations in the world.
And I've got to tell you, Lao Bajing, the Chinese people, I hear from that every day.
The insult to the Chinese people.
Disgusting.
Okay, short commercial break.
The American people have awakened to this.
We're going to Dave Ramaswamy, our great venture capitalist, one of the smartest guys around, to walk through the Pew Study Report with Dr. Peter Navarro and myself.
Next, in The War Room.
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Okay, now I've got Dr. Peter Navarro, who is very highly energized as he rides around Washington DC all the time on his bike.
Also got one of our great contributors, Dave Ramaswamy.
Rudy was saying at the beginning that, you know, the waking of the American people and do they know it?
And I think he's, you know, really talking about the league because what's stunning about this, the polling that's coming out now, And to Rudy's point, change is going to happen in this country when the American people awaken to the fact of who the enemy is, and the enemy here is not the Chinese people.
The Chinese people are enslaved, you know, a noble and great civilization, one that Dr. Navarro and I fell in love with many, many decades ago.
It is not the country of China, right?
It is the Chinese Communist Party, a radical, Illegitimate gangster regime that is looking for hegemony on the Eurasian landmass with their partners in Pakistan and the mullahs in Iran and now certain elements of Turkey's government and also Russia to control the Eurasian landmass and then against our allies in India in places like the littoral nations of Southeast Asia.
And then eventually to have hegemony throughout the world.
Okay, and that's why this next five or ten years are absolutely critical.
Dave, the American people are starting to wake up to this.
You've got this Pew study.
We wanted you to go through it since you know so much of the geopolitics here.
Could you walk us through what this Pew study says about the awakening of the American people to the threat posed by the Chinese Communist Party and China as long as it's controlled by them?
dave ramaswamy
Sure, Steve.
Peter, great to talk with you again.
You know, a Pew study came out a couple of days ago, last Thursday, and the findings are very stunning.
The awakening of the American people is underway, it's in full swing.
Nine of ten Americans view China as a competitor or enemy, and nearly half believe that the United States should seek to limit China's power.
Some other findings.
67% of Americans have, in quotes, cold feelings towards China on a feeling thermometer.
A couple of years ago, it was 46%.
It's up by about 21 percentage points in two and a half years.
And around two thirds of Americans describe economic relations between America and China as somewhat or very bad.
And here's some other things.
You know, I think Steve, Peter, a lot of the populist conservative Republicans have seen the threat of the Communist Party of China for years, but it's incredible how rank-and-file Democratic voters, even though they're not explicitly saying so, have Are seeing the threats from the Communist Party.
For example, when it comes to dealing with global climate change, at least 79% of Americans think China is doing a very bad job.
And 85% of Republicans and 67% of Democrats think protecting jobs of American workers should be a priority, like a top priority.
And 62% of Republicans and 67% of Democrats believe in preventing the spread of weapons of mass destruction.
And, you know, here's a couple of other interesting findings.
90% of American adults think that the Chinese government does not respect the personal freedoms of its people.
And when asked whether America should prioritize economic relations with China or promote human rights in China, 70% of Americans choose human rights.
Even if it potentially harms economic relations.
And Steve, Peter, here's some what I call cognitive dissonance.
You know, when the Democrats were surveyed, 80% of Democrats believe that reducing spread of infectious diseases should be a top US priority.
And 70% of Democrats believe dealing with global climate change should be a priority.
And, you know, Peter is a legend and a visionary, and back in 2006 in his book, Death by China, he had put forth the risk posed by, you know, zoonotic viruses, viruses with jump From other animal species to humans and much of them emanating from China.
So if Democrats think that spreading infectious diseases or reducing the spread of infectious diseases is a priority, I mean, all roads lead back to China.
And same thing with dealing with climate change.
You know, President Trump pulled out of the Paris Climate Accord and President Biden rejoined.
But if you look in the last year, Steve and Peter, China has added 15 Hoover dams worth of energy capacity in coal.
So, I mean, there's a big cognitive dissonance between the Democratic Party's priority to reduce or deal with climate change and the Chinese Communist Party just subverting everything with impunity.
And couple of final things to close out and then we can have a discussion is When it comes to dealing with China, only about half of Americans have confidence that President Biden will be able to deal effectively with China, even though about 67% of them have confidence in him to improve relationship with America's allies.
So, and the last thing, this is back to Xi, Only 15% of Americans have confidence that General Secretary Xi Jinping will do the right thing regarding global affairs.
So my takeaway from all of this is, you know, the populist movement gets stronger by the day.
And if anyone's tested positive for globalism, populism is a vaccine.
steve bannon
Dave, hang on for once, that's fantastic.
I want to turn to Peter.
Since you've been laboring in this vineyard for many decades, what is it that Dave just walked through, particularly the tectonic plate shift you're seeing now, what does that tell you?
peter navarro
Tells us that even as of this day that the elites in this country are far removed from the populists and the nationalists and just Main Street America.
Well grab me there and Dave, you kind of buried the lead kind of two-thirds into your statistics, was the issue about jobs.
I mean, to me, that was what it was all about.
I think that, historically, one of the top achievements, perhaps the top achievement of the Trump administration, was to transform the thinking about communist china uh... dramatically uh... with the american people to basically move away from the globalist elite economic engagement kumbaya ship our jobs offshore view of the world
To, I think Dave, you said something like over 90% now see China as some kind of strategic threat or enemy.
That's a profound, that's a profound change because it leads to policy changes.
Perhaps, that's an open question.
steve bannon
So Dave, I want to go back to what Peter said.
This is really...
And I want your thoughts on this.
Without the mainstream media really making this a top issue, this is people's lived experience in the Midwest.
In the South, where the textile mills went, where the factories have gone.
At the University, they see the Confucius Institutes, where they see Wall Street financing Chinese companies with no Sarbanes-Oxley, where American entrepreneurs can't get it.
This is the lived experience of the American people.
dave ramaswamy
The media, sir, has not done any real job You know, Steve, what's clear from the pandemic is, why should gain of function lead to pain of economic dysfunction?
Why should someone in Wichita, Kansas or Wauwatosa, Wisconsin lose their jobs because of some scientist futz around with bad viruses in Wuhan?
So this is the great issue of our time.
For example, a tree in America does not rely on the root and soil system of China.
So why should An American citizen, their livelihood, and even their life, rely on what's happening halfway around the world.
So, when you look at, you know, Peter's great point, you know, this leads to a profound policy shift.
For me, the no-brainer issue which will unite large numbers of Americans, Republicans, Democrats, people of all political persuasions, Is a issue of drugs and food.
So food and drug safety can be a big uniting issue.
I mean, Peter mentioned the point last year, where China hoovered up PPE, as it led flights from China all over the world.
I mean, and then one of the most gripping images for me last year in April was you had half a million dollar ER surgeons paid half a million dollars in New York who were forced to put on a grocery bag or a garbage bag on their face because we lack the capability to produce PPE and that needs to change.
And same with the raw materials for drugs.
80 to 100% of raw materials come from Asia, most of it from China.
So the wealthiest Americans across the political spectrum, across the business spectrum can't guarantee that the drugs they're taking are safe.
steve bannon
Dave, how do people follow you?
You're now a special contributor to us on geopolitics and issues dealing with this great threat of the Chinese Communist Party.
Your expertise in venture capital finance, and particularly in India, is second to none.
How do people follow you?
What's the website?
Particularly, what's your social media handles?
dave ramaswamy
Steve, people can follow me on Gap.
Dave Ramaswamy.
steve bannon
Dave Ramaswamy.
Have you punched out of Twitter totally, Ramaswamy?
dave ramaswamy
Yeah.
peter navarro
Good for you, Dave.
Now, Dave, I want to make this transition.
steve bannon
He's one of the Modi guys.
The most right-wing person we have associated with the War Room is my brother, Dave Ramaswamy.
Dave, thank you very much.
peter navarro
He's in the center of this country, my friend.
steve bannon
Go ahead, sir.
dave ramaswamy
Go ahead, Dave.
Let me conclude, you know, with some entertainment, packed in with some information.
Two guys are sitting in a Chinese prison.
One guy asks the other, Are you here for a common crime or a political crime?
The guy goes, political crime.
peter navarro
I'm a plumber.
dave ramaswamy
I was invited to the regional Communist Party headquarters to inspect the sewage pipes.
And after giving the pipes a look over, my diagnosis was, the entire system needs to be replaced.
I was immediately hauled in front of a judge and given 10 years.
steve bannon
Dave Ramaswamy on Gab.
Thank you very much, brother.
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Okay, we're going to get Frank Gaffney here in a second.
We've got a slight technical problem.
Peter, what we're having Frank on, he's co-founder of the Committee on the Present Danger, and the Committee on the Present Danger, there's a couple of books coming out right now that are going to take on the fact that these super hawks, the Peter Navarro's, the Steve Bannon, the Frank Gaffney's, that look like they just want to get us into another war with now the Chinese Communist Party.
I want you to address that.
You're being identified, you've been sanctioned along with me by the Chinese Communist Party four minutes into the Biden administration, right?
Full economic and financial sanctions and travel restrictions against Pompeo, Pottinger, Matt Pottinger was the head of the National Security.
The National Security, OK, let's just drop that.
We're trying to have a technical problem, I'm trying to get Frank.
So I want to say about being a super hawk, what that means, and then I wanted to tell what the American people, our audience is action oriented.
What actions do you need these people to take?
peter navarro
We're all China hawks now.
That's a riff on the famous Richard Nixon cover on Time Magazine where We're all Keynesians now.
It used to be that the thought about China being a threat, that we needed to decouple rather than engage, were extreme.
Now that's mainstream.
All the books I wrote, when they came out, they were viewed as extremist.
Today they read like Pentagon and State Department reports.
So we are all China hawks now in the sense that we have to defend ourselves.
steve bannon
And you're saying the Pew study shows that?
That the American people have become China hawks?
peter navarro
Beyond shows that.
I mean you just go through those statistics.
I mean over 90% of Americans see China now as a threat.
They know that they stole our jobs, they're going to hold them accountable for the virus.
I think what's really important for your listeners and viewers, just as they go about their daily lives, every time they go to the store, They need to look at the label, and if it says made in China, they need to think about whether they want to contribute to two things.
One, the export of American jobs, and two, the financing of the Chinese Communist Party military, the People's Liberation Army.
It's kind of eerie to me, Steve, that the Chinese Communist Party PLA military budget is just about the same size as our trade deficit.
steve bannon
It's also the same about the size of the interest we pay on the bonds.
What's going to happen?
We're running these massive deficits now.
Two trillion dollars about to come in.
peter navarro
We're paying for them to kill us in a nutshell.
We're paying for them to kill us.
They kill us by stealing our jobs.
I mean that whole Hillbilly Elegy book J.D.
steve bannon
Vance is a great book.
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J.D.
peter navarro
Vance, I mean, it actually came out after the books I wrote, which described how our factory communities were becoming dust bowls, essentially.
But this whole attack by the CCP is both an economic attack, it's a non-kinetic military attack.
steve bannon
This is unrestricted warfare.
peter navarro
This is information and cyber war, and you also have the economic The Seven Deadly Sins, baby!
steve bannon
Are we, according to you, Dr. Peter Navarro, are we engaged in a hot economic war with the Chinese Communist Party?
peter navarro
That war was declared on us by the CCP when they joined the World Trade Organization in 2001 because that gave them unfettered access This is the American elite.
steve bannon
This is Bill Clinton and not just the Democrats.
Bill Clinton and all of Wall Street and the Republican establishment welcomed them into the WTO and most favored nation.
You're confusing me because that was supposed to be a solution.
They were going to join the basically the member nations of the world and they were all going to change towards, they were all going to change to become part of that.
peter navarro
Let's be clear, Steve.
When the CCP steals American intellectual property to the tune of a half a trillion dollars a year, that's an act of economic warfare.
When they transfer our technology that we worked so hard to develop, our seed corn for our future, when they transfer that through force out of Silicon Valley to their own factories.
That's an economic war.
When they devalue their currency, which effectively allows them to sell more to the U.S.
even as they buy less from us, that's an economic Act of war when they have state-owned enterprises Heavily subsidized competing with the American private sector in a way that there's no way the American companies can win That's an act of economic war and when they flood our Particularly our manufacturing communities that they hollowed out with fentanyl and then they kill off the unemployed workers
by the tens of thousands every year That's an act of economic war because it hits us right at the labor force and productivity.
steve bannon
Okay, we had a technical problem getting Frank Gavin.
We're going to get Frank on on Monday's show because we're going to continue this conversation every day.
Every show is going to have now a special element of this.
Because the Biden administration, you have some people like the Commerce Secretary that's on the program, you've got many many more, the 20 that are listed that you did that chart on, that the Republicans in the House have actually done a good job on, but also National Pulse, etc.
So we're going to be, because this is the framework of this fight that we're going to have.
Dr. Peter Navarro, you've got an amazing report on immigration, you've got the election fraud, but we're hitting a tsunami.
The Daily Mail story overnight was the tsunami of mass immigration, mass migration that's coming across in April and May by the Biden administration.
You've got a new report up there.
peter navarro
Read the immigration report.
steve bannon
How do people get to your site?
peter navarro
PeterNavarro.com.
It's pretty simple.
Just my name, dot com, and you can download the election report, which is critical, the three-volume election report, which proves, in my judgment, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that that election was stolen.
The immigration report will really light up your eyes, because it documents just the severe economic costs To this country and the working class folks of America.
steve bannon
Hispanic and black and brown.
The burden's on your shoulders, folks.
Don't think the elites, they've singled you out to put the burden on your shoulders.
We've got to take off.
10 o'clock Monday, more with your background, Frank Gaffney and others.
But Frank Gaffney will be on from the Committee on the Present Danger and continue our coverage.
of the Chinese Communist Party.
Unrestricted warfare.
The war with the Chinese Communist Party starting next week here on War and Pandemic.
Thank you, Dr. Obama.
peter navarro
Yes, sir.
Admiral.
Admiral Bannon.
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