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Episode 777 Girl Walking – Berlin, Just Before the Wall (w/ Milius, Brown, Baris, Gracia, Storch)Episode 777 Girl Walking – Berlin, Just Before the Wall (w/ Milius, Brown, Baris, Gracia, Storch)
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, and the worst happens... War Room.
unidentified
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, you're in the war room in occupied Washington, D.C., the 57th day of the occupation.
Look, we always love putting you ahead of the news, and we've been on this border crisis that's building.
Axios today confirmed it.
There's a crisis in the Biden administration that's happening on the border because of their policies.
They're scrambling inside about what to do about it, and this thing in April and May is going to explode.
And here's who is going to be harmed.
The working class American citizens of Hispanic and African American descent on this side of the border.
And of course, the people in northern Mexico, the citizens of Mexico, we saw yesterday in the camp down there in Tijuana.
I think there was under 5% were from Mexico.
The rest were from Central America, Brazil, the Caribbean, other places.
Through no fault of the citizens of Tijuana that have no public services and very little money to protect them on COVID.
Now you got the situation all drawn by the cartels.
Right?
A lot of the times that the federales and the police are part of it, right?
The cartels are monetizing human trafficking even more than they've monetized drug trafficking.
And we're actually going to be, I think, doing, as we talked about, as the crisis starts to build, we're going to go back to the, or we build the wall down in El Paso, Texas, that great, at least three quarters of a mile, we've built right up the side of the mountain by the Border Patrol to stop cartel intrusion of human trafficking, particularly the human trafficking of young girls and women.
The other thing we're going to get into tonight and then on Monday, because we're doing a CCP special tomorrow, this tragedy of the SUV accidents.
I don't think people understand that those two SUVs that came through the gap in the wall and then got into the traffic accident.
In one of the SUVs, there were 25 people.
In the other SUV, there were 18.
These are SUVs that are made, and the mainstream media won't talk about it.
These are SUVs that are made to carry eight people.
They took the seats out, except for the two front seats.
They had 25 human beings packed into an SUV.
And they had 18, and I got this from ProPublica this morning, 18 human beings packed into the other one.
Okay.
This is a tragedy of biblical proportions.
You can't demonize the people in Central America because they're rational people and they're smart people.
They see the incentives that come up, they're going to come up.
amanda milius
Of course.
steve bannon
And who's it going to be built on?
The burden is going to be on working class people and Hispanics.
This is why Donald Trump was like a man on fire in the Rio Grande Valley in these districts.
This is what the Democrats, the congressman down there said, hey, they're going to win two more Hispanic controlled districts in Texas.
This time in 2022.
Okay, our guests are Lee Brown, the fashion designer and portrait artist, and the great young filmmaker, Amanda Milius, who has the plot against the President.
We want to make sure everybody downloads that and watches it.
Actually, it's like a spy thriller, but it's a story of the Russians.
amanda milius
It's also on DVD at Walmart and Target.com.
steve bannon
You could do old-fashioned, old-school?
amanda milius
We did, because you know what?
You can't trust things to not get cancelled and pulled off the internet, so I advise people to buy the real thing, because... You're a wise young woman.
Right?
steve bannon
Wise beyond your years.
amanda milius
Right?
steve bannon
That's pretty brilliant.
Get the DVD, then they can't pull you down.
By the way, all the President's CPAC speech is pulled down now.
You can't get a copy of it, right?
Hey, pull down CPAC.
I guess he was talking about the election fraud that we're now having.
Now in Maricopa County, we're getting 2.1 million ballots counted now by hand by a forensic audit.
And in Georgia, they're going through, you know, it's in the courts with Phil Kline, but you can't mention the F word.
You mention fraud, boom, you're done.
amanda milius
I was freaking out when I was speaking at CPAC.
I wasn't actually speaking what I usually speak.
I was like media content, conservative content, stuff like this, the film, you know, Plot Against the President.
I had volunteered twice to work on elections, once in 2016 and again in 2020 in Nevada.
So I was speaking about Nevada election fraud and I was like, thanks Matt, thanks Matt.
He's like, you know what, we can't have Amanda talk about election fraud in Nevada.
It is the first and last public speaking engagement that I will ever have because I'll be canceled promptly.
steve bannon
But Nevada was terrible.
amanda milius
Yes, I can tell you.
It's like 1930s style fraud there.
steve bannon
And there still haven't, and that's still ongoing.
I mean, there's things happening in Nevada today that you've got to get to the bottom of.
Okay, let's bring in Richard Barris.
I want to talk about, real quickly, Rahim, and bring in Barris in.
The President's schedule today has put up, you know, the playbook had the big thing about McCarthy versus Trump, and, you know, McCarthy's got to handle Trump in a certain way, you know, like an adult handles a small child.
Those articles are the ones President Trump really loves, right?
He really loves, right?
He's going to go Karl Rove on, he's going to go Karl Rove on McCarthy.
You know, oh, you gotta treat me like a baby?
But, if you scroll down, The Buried Lead is about the President, about Joe Biden's schedule today, is from his presidential daily briefing, to the briefings he's getting on COVID, to the briefings he's getting by Janet Yellen, the Secretary of Treasury, every meeting today that's listed, I think, Kamala Harris is in!
That is not the role of the Vice President, right?
You're not a staffer, right?
unidentified
You don't sit there and you don't sit... She's not a staffer, she's a babysitter.
raheem kassam
She's looking after him.
amanda milius
She's the president.
raheem kassam
Well, I don't know about that, but she's looking after him.
I think Ron Klain's the president right now.
What about Susan Rice?
amanda milius
People are forgetting what Susan Rice's role here.
I'd be curious how many... I mean, she's kind of faded out of the spotlight, but to me, she's my biggest red flag in this whole administration because you've got that very tight relationship with Obama.
You've got that Intel world, you've got one of the criminals of the Russiagate hoax, and a power-hungry, just demonic... You know how this game works.
steve bannon
Milius knows how this game works.
She knows how the game works.
raheem kassam
She's got to learn one thing.
It's not an administration.
Administrations have press conferences for the Commander-in-Chief.
It's a regime.
amanda milius
It's a regime, 100%.
raheem kassam
It's acting like a regime, right?
A regime is an administration without the consent of its people.
amanda milius
That's right.
steve bannon
Hang on a second.
Just answer me one question.
Does Kamala Harris live in the Naval Observatory?
She's still at Blair House.
raheem kassam
Blair House.
steve bannon
How can that possibly be?
Uh, changes to the Blair House.
You know, the, the, the Pence's, I'm not a Mike Pence fan, but they're, they're Indiana.
They're Hoosiers.
Very, very neat and clean.
The thing, I'm sure the thing was spotless when it was turned over.
So maybe you had a couple of changes you had to make.
We're six weeks into this.
Is she still a Blair House?
Are you sure about that?
raheem kassam
That was the last report was.
She's still at Blair House.
That was a week or so ago that I read that.
steve bannon
Why is she living right across the street from the White House?
raheem kassam
She has to be right across the street from the White House.
I mean, technically, isn't that part of the whole complex now?
It's all fenced in now.
amanda milius
At one point was part of the complex.
raheem kassam
But it's all fenced in now.
The fence extends now and takes Blair House into the White House complex because it goes over Lafayette Square.
So she is basically living on the complex now as well.
Why is she in all the meetings today?
Let me just do some news for people so they understand what we're talking about here.
So this is straight from Politico.
Yeah.
It's not from us. It's Biden's Friday. The President and VP Kamala Harris will receive the President's daily brief at 9.50am and have lunch together at 12.15. At 2.15, they will receive an economic briefing with Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen.
At 3.15pm, Biden will participate in a roundtable on the COVID relief bill.
Biden and Harris will then receive a COVID-19 briefing at 5.30pm.
unidentified
Wow!
steve bannon
That's not a Vice President's role.
Mike Pence maybe sat in it a handful of times with the PDB because there was some issue that he wanted to get him in there.
He has his own National Security Advisor.
amanda milius
He has their own project.
Usually the VP gets their own little special project.
Go count pencils over there.
steve bannon
Reinvent government under Al Gore.
But you're doing something, you're not a staffer, and you're certainly not hanging out with the President all day and going to these meetings.
They've got to answer the question, what is she around all the time for?
There's something going on.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
There's something going on.
raheem kassam
Well, actually, the imagery is fairly menacing as well.
You know, she's always behind him, like, lurking behind him, and she's all dressed in black, and she's got the black mask on, and she's always behind him.
She's just staring a hole in the back of his head like this, and then, when he starts to walk off, she's kind of like marching right behind him, like, keep it moving, Joe, keep it moving, Joe.
Don't try and answer any questions here.
steve bannon
They wouldn't cut her off the other day.
Let's bring in Richard Barris.
This is about political capital.
There's a lot of confusion out there.
I see some headlines in these papers.
Biden at 61%.
Biden at 56%.
The Rasmussen poll says very differently.
I think it's 49 or 50.
And that's the best tracking poll.
But Barris, People in the Trump movement feel that you've got your best handles on the numbers.
So what is really the approval rating of Joe Biden as you see it today?
And does he have the political capital to hit the four big verticals of, you know, HR1, the Equality Act, the Amnesty Act, and also this massive COVID bill?
Where's his political capital stand today?
richard baris
It is about political capital, and that's why we have two universes in polling right now, where you have a few of us who have them in the high 40s, low 50s, and then some of these other big media polls that have them in the high 50s, above 60.
That's the short answer.
We're going to poll again starting this weekend, so we'll have even fresher numbers, but we have never had them above 52%.
Uh, that was at the height of the honeymoon, if you want to call it that.
And basically, uh, I think, Steve, it's really the long answer is that this industry has a crisis.
So there's, there's really twofold.
One is the methodology problems that they now, I mean, it's for years refused to recognize, but now I think they're using them as a crutch to get him above 60%.
So the random, uh, the, the response biases, the social desirability biases, they know now, and they, instead of, Trying to deal with them recognize and deal with them.
They're using them as an excuse because this is about political capital It is not uncommon for the raw data because of our response rates being so low and the bias is favoring Metro urban voters and Metro urban Americans.
It is not uncommon for raw data to come back and Very liberal.
Way too liberal.
And we saw that during the election.
And anyone who wanted to do a legitimate autopsy on why they did not perform well would go back and look at that and retool themselves.
But they didn't.
And they just kept moving forward.
And what other explanation is that it helps Joe Biden?
It helps the agenda.
So, you know, keep it up.
You know, use it as a crutch.
Basically inflate those numbers and make it look like he has more political capital than he does.
steve bannon
Just for our audience, when you say there are methodology problems in 2020, be specific.
What did you see as the methodology problems, and how would you rate the mainstream media on an ABCD scale?
How would you rate it, and what were the methodology problems with polling Trump supporters?
richard baris
I would rate them as an F. Different people, different groups of people, respond to different modes of collection at different rates.
So, if you use a live caller, and even just live call it a landline, live call it a cell phone, certain people are more willing to participate in a live caller interview than others.
That creates an artifact, what we call an artifact of the poll itself.
And that's why you see wild fluctuations.
In the real world, that's not what's happening.
You're just talking to different groups of people.
So it's an artificial fluctuation.
If you use an online method, then you'll reach different groups of people like that.
IVR, you'll reach different groups of people.
Older people are much more willing to conduct an IVR survey than younger people.
So you have, as a pollster, you have to identify what groups you're reaching and which groups you are not.
And unfortunately, that's why I can honestly, we all remember the ABC, Langer, ABC research, Biden plus 17 in Wisconsin.
I actually can see how that happened.
I can't.
If you're incompetent or intentionally incompetent, that absolutely is possible in a state like Wisconsin.
Our Biden plus four in our national poll, which was right, was not Biden plus four in the raw data.
And what we have done over the years to factor for that, Steve, is set.
We know what the electorate is going to look like.
You have to establish that first.
And then you have to set quotas and make sure you talk to enough people in these different groups.
They're not doing that.
They're not doing it.
And they don't care to do it, which is the second part of that crisis, Steve.
The other part of it is ethical.
We have an ethics problem in this industry.
steve bannon
You're the People's Pundit, and that's the Twitter handle you go to.
I guess also your website.
I just want to, before we lose you, we've got about 30 seconds.
Right now, as Richard Barris sees it, what is the approval rating of Joe Biden?
richard baris
He's going to be around 48 to 52.
I always let the numbers speak to me, but I can bank it, Steve.
We're too polarized for these 60 pluses.
It's ridiculous.
steve bannon
And so you're saying he has virtually no political capital and certainly no political capital to jam through a radical agenda, correct?
richard baris
Well, and then if you look inside those numbers even more, I mean, that's the takeaway.
If you look inside the numbers even more, there are far more people who strongly disapprove, who strongly approve.
So that intensity is against him.
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
I just want to hold you through the break.
I want to come back and ask that and about independence.
unidentified
Sure.
steve bannon
About the independence and the rest of the world, the crosstabs.
Okay, we'll take a short commercial break.
Richard Barris, the people's pundit and the best pollster.
I think one of the best pollsters out there of a rising generation of pollsters.
We're going to return in a minute with Lee Brown, Amanda Milius, Raheem Kassam, Stephen K. Bannon.
You're in the arena and you're in the War Room.
Next.
unidentified
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Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Hey, you two might be artists, but don't be shy around a mic.
In the War Room, you gotta jump in here.
amanda milius
No one's ever had to say that.
When I've done Gorka's show, he can't get a word in, and then we fight over the microphone.
He was the first public podcast I did after I got out of the administration.
raheem kassam
As opposed to a private podcast.
amanda milius
Well, you know, some people don't have that many followers, and it's basically like a private podcast.
unidentified
I won't say who, but... That's a phone call.
steve bannon
I don't say how much you class up Seb's podcast, but it's a lot.
Lee, make sure... I know you're a designer, and you guys are normally... I'm shy, and this is my first podcast.
Is it?
amanda milius
You're amazing.
raheem kassam
Wow.
amanda milius
It's fascinating.
steve bannon
Wow, it's amazing.
raheem kassam
They say I'm shy as well.
steve bannon
I want to go back to the image of Rahim on his phone.
raheem kassam
Steve's like doing this now.
amanda milius
That's what I think of when I think of you guys together.
unidentified
Always.
Can you draw that?
steve bannon
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raheem kassam
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amanda milius
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Who?
And I'm not saying this just to say it.
steve bannon
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amanda milius
No.
steve bannon
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unidentified
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amanda milius
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But you know, my dad is like obsessed with the MyPillow thing.
unidentified
Are you kidding me?
amanda milius
He doesn't ask for things that are on the television very often, but he was like, I must have one of these.
steve bannon
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We've got to get the Millius version.
What are you talking about?
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amanda milius
Not only that, we've got a package of two to four feature films coming up in the next few years.
Financers, welcome.
unidentified
Thanks.
steve bannon
We're going to talk about that.
Of course, we've got to have more of your stuff.
Look, your documentary is like a feature film.
OK, I got to go back to Richard Barris.
Now, Richard, The reason we've got to come back to you is that you mentioned something before the break about the intensity level.
Talk about, I want to talk about, in the Rasmussen poll, the cross tabs, and folks out there will know, this is the mechanics of how these polls are put together, you can always learn about them.
In the Rasmussen, which is the best tracking poll, the three-day tracking poll, that has him around 50%, they've also got only, I think, 39% of independents support him right now, or approve of him, 57% against, and then talk about the intensity levels.
richard baris
Yeah, with the independents, this is kind of important.
What I think is going on, under Trump, the independent number looked ugly, but that is because Donald Trump cannibalized so many independents.
So, over four years, people who told us in 2016 they were independents, Steve, A lot of them would start to tell us they were Republican.
It's not uncommon for an incumbent to do that, to shrink the actual independent number.
But now that Donald Trump is gone and so many Republican voters, particularly Trump voters, are angry, they're now going back to calling themselves independents.
So that's a significant number that we're seeing do that.
So it's not, you know, it's not only a shift against Biden with independents, it's some people who were Self-identifying as Republicans before and now saying they're independent again.
But what I was saying before the break, basically four in ten voters will tell us that they strongly disapprove of Joe Biden.
And a very small amount, maybe six to eight percent, will tell us they somewhat disapprove.
Um, so only about 3 in 10 will tell us they strongly approve.
So what I see with Rasmussen, that's pretty close.
With ours last time, it was 28% strongly.
I see they have it at 32, and that's within the sampling error.
That's pretty close.
But generally, it's against him.
The last person that we saw have the intensity on their side was early Trump administration and Obama.
Obama used to have the intensity index for him when he was running for your election.
The last four years soured on him.
But keeping that intensity index on your side is important because when it gets tough, when things get tough, that's how you know you're politically strong.
You have capital to spend.
When you have this intensity index against you, one little story Steve could do you in.
That could hurt you.
steve bannon
I don't want you to speculate, but looking forward, particularly, we're going to have Bianca Gracia from Latinas for Trump on talking about the border crisis.
We've got Mary Mendoza from the Angel Moms later about the border crisis.
No one actually has today, and they're always a good indicator, particularly Jonathan Swan, those guys, about what's going to be hot next.
They're saying, hey, the Biden administration is working themselves into a crisis of the border in April, May, when things warm up.
Seeing that scene of the Cuomo crisis of the nursing homes in New York, seeing Gavin Newsom's about to be recalled, you know the two golden boys of the Democratic Party, he's about to be recalled in California, about what?
Moms of school children and entrepreneurs saying we've had enough of this, they haven't told us about these lockdowns, what's in back of it, we're recalling them.
When you see the kind of Democratic Party kind of collapsing in disarray, Where do you think, as you see right now mathematically, with COVID being so important and this border crisis coming up and people, you know, the economy, where do you see his polling going if you had to kind of look at where the numbers you think are taking you?
richard baris
So immigration on top of COVID, what's going on with COVID already, it could be a recipe for disaster for them, for not just Biden, but all the way around.
Because an Emerson poll, which came out about a week ago, a little less than a week ago in New York, looked a lot like the poll we did on Gavin Newsom in California.
What is fueling that decline?
Those are Hispanic voters, Steve.
They're starting to look more like white voters when you ask about favorability and you ask about vote preference.
Asians, and to a lesser extent, Black voters, are sticking with Democrats like Cuomo, like Newsom, and certainly Biden.
But the Hispanic working class is what is fueling this drop in their numbers.
And I said this in 2020.
May have given people news that they didn't want to hear, but working class Hispanics are a growing population.
It's not a bad thing to be the party who's attracting working class Hispanics.
And I heard you when we were in the queue.
Zapata County, Steve, in Texas, winning Zapata County.
Texas 15 is gone.
If Republicans play their cards right, they're going to take that district in 2022.
That is not a bad place to be in the mid to long term.
steve bannon
How do people get more access to you, Richard?
What's your Twitter?
What's your social media?
How do they get to your website?
richard baris
Yeah.
So they can follow me on Twitter, while I'm still there, at peoples underscore pundit.
And we do the show Inside the Numbers on YouTube.
People should check it out.
That's where we're doing this polling.
That's how we did it before the election.
We brought back the public polling project, basically.
We're going to do a monthly approval, because these numbers are so out of control.
And people funded it.
It worked.
So we're going to bring it back.
We need a new voice in this thing.
steve bannon
But the bottom line is, you think Biden has virtually no political capital right now?
richard baris
I think, well, correct, but I think it would be difficult for anyone who is not some transcendent candidate like Barack Obama to come out of the gate with 60% approval.
It's unrealistic.
This country is very, very divided.
To move forward with legislative items that they want to move forward with, they're not going to have a mandate to do these things.
steve bannon
Richard Barris, thank you very much for joining us.
We're going to bring in, in a moment, Bianca Gracia to talk about what he was just talking about, working-class Hispanics.
This is the new driving force.
The major realignment in this country is going to be working-class people pouring in the Republican Party, led by a guy named Donald J. Trump, the 45th President of the United States.
All these globalist policies, all these elitist policies, they're not going to wash.
They talk about, you know, Biden Republicans.
Those are essentially globalists.
They're elitists.
Their home should be the Democratic Party.
Working-class people's home should be the Republican Party as we now start to focus on a counter-narrative about the policies that we drive forward from Biden.
Before I get to Bianca, we've got to talk about yesterday and Nancy Pelosi.
You started the show up here.
It was the 155th anniversary of President Lincoln's second inaugural address, the most powerful, I think, political speech ever given.
unidentified
Understand a couple of our listeners... He triggered some, but he battled me.
steve bannon
A couple were triggered, but hey.
Lincoln, and I'll make this argument later, is the greatest nationalist president this country has ever had.
Okay?
He is the greatest nationalist.
This country, not to only fight a war, not simply to free the slaves, but to also hold the country together as one nation, not let the South, and I'm a Southerner, but Southern Unionist, not to let the South go, become part of the British Empire again, do a globalist slave empire down in Latin America and Central America.
He passed, during his term, The Transcontinental Railroad, the Homestead Act, and the Land-Grant University Act.
He already saw us as a continental power in his vision.
Gettysburg Address, I think the one word's repeated over and over again.
The nation.
He was a nationalist.
And if you don't get that, we're going to have to explain it in more depth.
But on the 155th anniversary of this magnificent speech, Nancy Pelosi decided to send everybody home.
raheem kassam
You know, it was extraordinary what happened yesterday.
The shaman were marauding through the building again, the windows were knocked out, the dome actually exploded at one point, I don't know if you saw that.
No, look, yesterday was a big nothing burger, as predicted, and Nancy Pelosi and all of her, you know, people, Yogananda Pittman, the acting Capitol Hill police chief, who's a Biden donor, I'll remind you, Uh, all of them were citing, oh, we need to have an increase of the National Guard, and this is all very serious, and there was an increase down there, we saw it, we saw everything.
And now, now, after nothing happened, Nancy Pelosi's out there calling yesterday, the whole thing, silliness.
Just kidding, you know, it wasn't really a big deal, actually what we did is we allowed the Republicans to have their conference yesterday, and that's why we took the day off.
That's rubbish, it's nonsense.
That's a lie.
then nothing happened, the intelligence was fake, phony, and now Nancy Pelosi's trying to run away from it.
Here's how you know it wasn't. Here's how you know that the House Democrats absolutely believed what Nancy Pelosi was peddling before.
The story in the Hill.
Democrats sits on Capitol steps to protest extremist threat.
The brave Al Green sitting on the steps of the Capitol building, surrounded by 10,000 National Guard by the way, to send a message to QAnon and the 3% of people that are interested in QAnon out there.
That's how you know the Democrats believed Nancy's spin as well, and now she's trying to row back from it.
steve bannon
Okay, short commercial break.
We're going to come back with Bianca Gracia from down in South Texas, head of President of Latinos for Trump, also Mary Mendoza, angel mom.
We're going to get Lee Brown's take.
She's an artist.
We're going to get her take on the wall that's around the Capitol and the razor wire barbed wire that's on top.
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First off, Lee Brown, you're an artist, you're a fashion designer, you're no bright winger, or maybe you are now, but to walk, and you're also from Northern Virginia.
You're from this area, Northern Virginia, people should know, the suburbs of Washington, south of the Potomac.
The first time you've come up here today, since this happened.
unidentified
Yeah, since the fall.
steve bannon
Since the fall.
Tell us about your first reactions to what's going on here in the cab.
unidentified
Well, it totally caught me off guard.
It's visually terrifying.
I mean, there are men with guns, you know?
I feel like I'm in Penn Station when you're on high terror alert.
It doesn't even feel like America.
I came up and I said to the cab driver, like, what is going on?
steve bannon
Does the mainstream media putting that out enough?
My point is, do you think most people in America that are going about their lives understand what's happening here in the Capitol?
unidentified
I don't think so.
You see it on television or in photographs and you're like, oh, what's really happening?
And then you see it in real life and it's terrifying.
steve bannon
I think we've got to film this.
I noticed the other day when you were out there live, the reaction we got from people was like, what's going on here?
Rahim's like a half a mile from the Capitol with a barbed wire in back of him.
unidentified
I was surprised how vast it was as well.
I thought it was just concentrated around the Capitol, and I was coming up behind the Supreme Court, the Senate buildings, and it's there as well.
raheem kassam
There's all these road closures that happen all the time as well around the city.
steve bannon
And you don't think mainstream Americans right now have a sense of that?
unidentified
No way.
steve bannon
And the media is not pushing that out there?
unidentified
No, because I'm kind of normie, you know, mainstream, you know, I'm not really part of it.
amanda milius
No, they're not reminding people that it's there.
raheem kassam
No, but they're not showing the full scale of it either.
amanda milius
Jack's done a good job of doing his walks around the city and showing it.
raheem kassam
You've got to get a drone footage of it, but you can't have drones up in DC.
That's why you can't see the scale of it.
amanda milius
It's very weird.
You know how one always thinks about different periods in history that you would have liked to experience or whatever?
I always would think about Berlin right before the wall went up.
I remember I was going to one of my last meetings at the White House before the end of the administration, and I was in my little White House outfit with my heels and my whole thing.
I ran into you.
And the cab stops because they couldn't get any closer because the streets were closed.
And so I was walking and it was like a light rain.
And there was this giant machine pulling the cement closures.
And I was like, this is it.
This is that moment.
This is girl walking Berlin just before the wall.
I was like, I'm in that scene now.
It was, and going to a government building, it was, it was so creepy.
It's just, you can't understand the, the real, you know something really bad is going on.
You see it and you're like, okay, so this is, this is my moment.
raheem kassam
Well look, if we can say anything, it's that the Washington Post warned us, right?
steve bannon
Democracy dies in darkness.
raheem kassam
But that's exactly what's happening.
They were, like you said, they were trucking these cement things in by night.
amanda milius
Right.
raheem kassam
And changing the city overnight.
steve bannon
Okay, let me tell you about an artistic tell.
And this is why her film looks like a spy, like a Leclerc spy thing.
If you talk to people about American history, I like to be, you know, at the American Revolution, at Liberty Hall, or at Gettysburg Address, or somewhere.
No.
Amanda Milius.
I would like to be in Berlin before the wall went up.
I mean, you're so...
You're the perfect person to make the spy movies.
bianca gracia
Right?
amanda milius
I mean, it's also, it's a good look, fashion-wise.
You know what I'm talking about.
Like, you know the suit I was wearing was, like, totally, like, yeah.
It gives a full picture.
steve bannon
So great.
amanda milius
Okay, let's go now.
We're aesthetic people.
steve bannon
Let's go now to Texas and Bianca Gracia.
She was at CPAC, one of the talks I gave.
She came up afterwards.
She's president of Latinos for Trump, an independent organization focused on working-class Hispanics and what's going on.
She's from Houston, Texas, live from Houston, Texas now, but focused really on the Rio Grande Valley a lot during the campaign.
Bianca, talk to us first about this crisis.
If you're living in Texas now, On the rear ground, what do you anticipate?
Actually, as I say, a crisis is building for April and May on the southern border.
What say you?
bianca gracia
Well, thank you so much, Steve, for inviting me on.
Thank you for giving me a voice here on America's Voice, War Room.
Anticipate that it's going to get worse.
We know that in January alone, in the McAllen sector alone, 75,000 were apprehended, crossing over.
The Border Patrol doesn't even want to tell us right now what the numbers are for February because they're worse.
So you can anticipate that it is going to get worse.
steve bannon
When you're down in the Rio Grande Valley, given how successful President Trump was in 2020, we just had Richard Barris, the pollster, says, hey, I think we're going to take Zapata County in the congressional district up there in 2022.
You're talking about this is working class Hispanics that should be the backbone of the Democratic Party, yet they're coming to President Trump in waves.
As they see this crisis building, Did they feel that the burden of the solution here by the Biden administration is being put on their shoulders, both from the security point of view, the CCP COVID virus point of view, and also the economics of flooding the area with illegal alien labor?
bianca gracia
So honestly, Steve, our Hispanics knew this back in the Obama era.
But none of our GOP, RPT, RNC people went to go speak to our Hispanics down there.
that were never communicated with.
So they were always in fear of speaking out because they knew that they had a crisis.
They've had a crisis for a very long time.
So, so yeah, I mean, that's, that's kind of where we're at.
They anticipate that this is going to get worse.
So that's why president Trump did do well.
Obviously 70% of our border patrol agents are Hispanic.
34% of our military is of Hispanic descent.
So, um, Latinos, Hispanic, Mexican Americans, whatever you want to call us, right.
However, the Democrat party divides us by names.
Um, We wanted a seat at the table and President Trump was the one that was willing to speak to us about having a seat at the table, while others totally neglected us because they just felt that the Hispanics belonged to the plantation of the Democrat Party.
steve bannon
When you talk about seat at the table, let's talk about policy for a second.
What are, in your mind, the one or two, three top policies that President Trump advocates and the Trump movement advocates, this populist nationalist movement?
What is it that they advocate that resonates with working class Hispanics?
bianca gracia
Well, it was pro-life first.
We're a family oriented culture.
So, you know, family.
which is, you know, obviously a pro-life as well, and jobs.
Those are the top three things.
It's education.
Obviously, every Hispanic wants their child to be, you know, educated, you know, and not indoctrinated, but educated, right?
So we want our kids to do better than what we have done.
And so obviously, family-oriented, faith, and the jobs.
That's what resonated.
You know, security.
When Trump talked about the bad hombres coming across the border, that was like ripping a Band-Aid.
The Hispanic community knew that this was happening, right?
And it was like, ouch, they don't want you to talk about it, right?
But he ripped a Band-Aid and all of a sudden it was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe he said that.
But yet, our Hispanic community knew.
That this was happening and they knew that they had human trafficking, they had drugs, they had gangsters roaming around their streets.
The very thing they left their other, you know, they migrated here for, right?
They left the other countries to get rid of this only to come live here and be, you know, again, have to be faced with these situations in their communities.
steve bannon
Talk us through, for 2022 or going forward, what do you think that the Trump movement has to focus on to make sure that we can actually break over the 50% with the Hispanic vote and really reform this Republican Party?
You're president's a Latinx for Trump.
What would you recommend that the focus be and the outreach be?
bianca gracia
I think that, obviously, you know, I've been working on this for three years, four years now, actually.
The Republican Party of Texas hired me as a Hispanic engagement director.
Obviously, I don't think I, I did, I did my job very, very well.
But they couldn't control me, you know, they want to control people.
And so one of the things is I was told not to go into the blue areas because they're not winnable or, you know, they're too blue or they're not going to spend money there.
They're not gonna waste money.
But you don't hire someone to be a Hispanic engagement director for the whole state of Texas and not expect them to go into the blue areas where the Hispanics live.
So you got to do engaging and you got to do it's not just about outreach. You got to actually go into those communities and have the tough conversations with them, which is what I was doing. That's what I, you know, did from the very beginning.
Um, what I did first is go to the Hispanic evangelical community, right?
Because they are very conservative.
Um, and I had about a hundred pastors in the Rio Grande Valley at a, at a meeting.
And at that point, this was very, very early on when Trump had just won.
But at that point they, they said, we are conservative.
We believe in everything that you, that, you know, we believe in our platform.
Um, but you know, please don't forget about us because people come talk to us, but we never see them again.
So it's hard to kind of stand up and stand out out here when you're obviously flooded by Democrats.
So it's going to be very, very important.
I think that one of the things I've been trying to resonate and send a message to is if I was President Trump, I'd be calling all the grassroots activists.
You know, he's been seeing people at Mar-a-Lago.
What he needs to do is call a grassroots, like, find all the leaders that were actually in the community, not these campaign people that didn't do anything, right, but hid behind a, I don't know, computer or something, but people who were actually on the ground doing work.
He needs to have a roundtable and say, hey, what happened?
What can we do different?
And how do we, you know, how do we now?
Do what you did in Texas, nationally.
That is the conversation we need to have.
steve bannon
She nailed it.
Yeah, maybe we do that here on The Worm to kick things off.
We've got to bounce.
People want to know your social media coordinates, how they get to your website, and how they find out more about you, Bianca Gracia.
bianca gracia
So, interestingly enough, you know, the social media doesn't want us out there.
Obviously, they took us down from Facebook about a week before because of all... we had 5,000 vehicles on the street right in Rio Grande Valley.
They immediately shut us down.
They shut us down.
They didn't want us to make an impact.
They couldn't stop what was coming, honestly.
So, we don't... we're not really active on Facebook.
So, we're on...
Carla and I'm on Gap.
You can find me on social media personally, Bianca4Texas.
You can find now our landing page is, I had to change it because Facebook and Instagram, as we were talking about the civil rights lawsuit that we're in, obviously they shut down three of my domain names.
So I had to actually get another one.
So it's latinotrumpcoalition.org.
But I'm also, the main one is latinotrump.us.
Go to our website, that's the best way to communicate with us.
Send us an email, sign up for newsletters, and then obviously if you're there you can navigate where to find us on which social media platforms.
steve bannon
Give us the .org again, what's the new one people can go to?
unidentified
latinotrumpcoalition.org Okay, I want everybody in this audience to get to one of those sites today and get more information.
steve bannon
Bianca, I look forward to having you back on here.
We're going to talk to you about doing that roundtable thing.
We'll kick it off here and make sure the President knows about it down in Mar-a-Lago.
Great idea.
Bianca Gracia, you like that idea.
amanda milius
I do.
She's got it.
She knows.
When she says, the people that were on the ground, you could say that to every single coalition.
And also, what happened to immigration in 2020?
What happens when we run on immigration?
2016.
What happens when we forget immigration? 2020.
steve bannon
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We'll return with Lee Brown, Amanda Milius, Raheem Kassam.
We've got Marian Mendoza, Angel Mom, to update us on all the tragedies down on the border.
We're going to be back in just a second in The War Room.
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We got more on the border We didn't need more time with her Now I want to go live to Germany, I believe to Berlin, and we've got Beatrice von Storch.
She's the leader, one of the leaders of the Alternative for Deutschland.
We talked about this the other day, Rahim and I, on the show, Beatrice, is that it looked like they're trying to make a conservative party, a party that stands up for many of the things that the Trump movement stands up here for in the United States and what we're trying to recast the Republican Party to stand for.
They're trying to actually look like, from the other day, Merkel is trying to make your party illegal.
Can you please tell our American and global audience exactly what's going on in Germany with your party?
unidentified
Well, you basically made the major point.
They're trying to make us illegal.
I think Germany is probably the only country within the Western democratic countries which legally allows the domestic intelligence service.
To go against the opposition party.
This is what's the case in Germany.
So the so-called Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, which is our domestic intelligence service, something like the FBI, they are allowed to go against us.
And this is, of course, very unhelpful.
For a democratic system where the opposition party has to have equal rights and cannot be blamed by the government parties.
We went against these actions of the, I call it FBI so you can better understand, we went against the actions of the FBI, against our party, to the court.
And the FBI decided to brand the AFD as an extremistic party.
And they did so two weeks ahead of very important regional elections.
So this was just two days ago.
So they basically officially came out with branding us as an extremistic party, which has a huge impact, of course, Hold it!
steve bannon
Beatrice, real quickly, they named you an extremist party before the elections.
What did they single out that you're doing that's so extremist?
unidentified
Well, the thing is, we don't know because they have come up with a 1,000 pages paper, which we have not yet received.
So they did not declare anything officially against us.
They just got the information that they will brand us to the media, so we don't even know what we are talking about.
Only the media, and of course all the media picked up this message, are coming out with the news.
They are branded.
The FBI is going against the AFD, but nothing is official.
Nothing has yet been seen.
We are not able to answer any questions.
We cannot address the problem because we don't have the information.
The media has the information directly from the FBI, but we don't have it so far.
So we went to the court to go against it and to overrule this decision.
And this has just happened a few hours ago.
So the court ruled now that the FBI no longer is allowed to go against us.
And this is a landslide victory.
This is really something big.
This is something like an earthquake.
Well, the government has not yet responded so far, but I can tell you we will have a very, very happy weekend.
We will celebrate this.
steve bannon
Beatrice, real quickly, is this a crushing defeat for Angela Merkel and her regime in Berlin?
Is this a crushing defeat, what the courts did?
unidentified
Well, I would like to say yes, but the governing system is very strong.
Um, and they have got the media on their side and so on.
So, um, it will be still, it's still a way, a long way to go.
And it's still a very hard fight.
We have to, to, to keep on fighting.
Um, and this is only a decision for a while.
So probably for, for the next two or three months or so.
Uh, and then we have a final court decision.
This was only a interim decision.
Um, but still the message is out.
We have got an FBI.
...acting illegally and which has to be stopped by a court to not intervene in the equal chances of opposition party.
steve bannon
Beatrice Fenstorf, thank you very much.
We'll put your social media up so people can follow you.
Thank you very much for joining us from Berlin.
If you don't think this is where the United States is going, you're kidding yourself, okay?
They're a canary in the mineshaft.
Alternative for Deutschland stands for no extremist policies.
amanda milius
It's already there.
I mean, look at how similar it is to what they did with Russiagate.
It's the intel community with a private relationship with their personal communications arm, aka the mainstream media, demonizing their political enemies.
steve bannon
Amanda Milish, you've got to get her film, The Plot Against the President, off of Lee Smith's book.
We're going to have her back in.
Lee Brown, very powerful.
You came here to Washington, D.C.
and you're shocked.
You don't think the American people know what's going on here?
unidentified
No way.
steve bannon
No way?
unidentified
No, absolutely not.
I think I can speak for the American people because I'm very much outside of the establishment, outside of the political realm.
I'm just seeing things You know, in the media, imagery.
I was not anticipating that.
steve bannon
Lee Brown.
unidentified
It's overwhelming.
steve bannon
How did they get to your site?
unidentified
They can find me on Instagram at Lee and Brown and then Twitter under the same handle.
steve bannon
OK, we'll have Lee Brown back in too.
Rahim, real quickly, podcast today?
raheem kassam
Got some interesting stuff about what's going on in the United Kingdom with Boris Johnson and his fiancée Carrie Simmons under increasing pressure as we learn that she's spent now up to £200,000.
On a redecoration for her apartment at No.
10 Downing Street.
At a time of lockdown, telling everyone else to suck it up.
This isn't playing well and Boris is in real trouble over this.
steve bannon
Is this 15,000 pounds a week in food?
raheem kassam
That was the Daily Mail front page this morning.
She is Carrie Antoinette, they're naming her.
steve bannon
So good.
Got to listen to the podcast.
We'll be back.
We've got Marian Mendoza and many others, Peter Navarro and others, back here at five o'clock today for a news wrap-up.
We're going to break some news this afternoon at five.
unidentified
See you then.
steve bannon
Thank you guys for coming in.
The Artist joins us on Friday.
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