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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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Live from an occupied nation's capital, day 57 of the occupation, 5,000 to 7,000 National Guard troops up armored, still here. | ||
Capitol shut down yesterday or at least part of it the House part of it because of a Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats thought that there was going to be a March 4th the the old inauguration day back before the Great Depression that domestic terrorists were going to be making threats according to I guess the new Capitol Hill police later in the day Nancy Pelosi said she was just kidding Rahim how many days with a unaccompanied press conference 44 44 days okay you're | ||
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Okay, all of that. | ||
Very different data here in the War Room. | ||
Well, somehow my producer decided to class it up. | ||
We've got two people that are artists. | ||
One, the great young filmmaker, Amanda Milius. | ||
She is the director and the writer of adapted Lee Smith. | ||
We had Lee Smith on here many times. | ||
The Plot Against the President. | ||
She's the film director of that. | ||
We're going to talk about Hollywood. | ||
We're going to talk about the creative process. | ||
We're going to talk about all that as we go through the day. | ||
We've got a lot of news to break. | ||
And also, a fashion designer and a portrait artist, Lee Brown, also joins us. | ||
So we're going to have a lot to talk about. | ||
Remember, culture is upriver from politics. | ||
We've got a lot of politics and a lot of things to go through today. | ||
We're going to go down to the border in the Rio Grande Valley. | ||
We're going to talk to some of the working class Hispanic leaders down there that have led the Trump revolution, the Latinos for Trump. | ||
Also going to have the Angel Moms on here. | ||
Yesterday we started live from the border with the team from Real America's Voice. | ||
This terrible situation in Tijuana, Mexico with this camp of 1,500 people that have come up. | ||
And remember, this is never to demonize the people from Central America. | ||
It is an absolute Tragedy of biblical proportions down there and the global corporations and the countries have got to get organized and start to sort those problems out down in Central America because only the cartels are profiting from this human trafficking that's taking place up on the southern border. | ||
And Rahim Axios today, they're always a good indicator. | ||
of what's hot. | ||
I think their fifth story today on their homepage. | ||
They actually called, they're watching the world. | ||
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Okay. | |
When I told you about it. | ||
It was the lead story? | ||
It was the lead story. | ||
That's big. | ||
They put up the lead story, but they used the magic word. | ||
Crisis. | ||
Raheem's magic word from last night. | ||
Crisis. | ||
Migrant crisis. | ||
Did they actually call it migrant crisis? | ||
No, they said crisis. | ||
You've got to get migrant in there. | ||
We'll get there. | ||
Okay, back to 2015. | ||
Okay, I'll just swap later on today. | ||
Okay. | ||
When are you going to have the piece up about the migrant crisis? | ||
Working on it today. | ||
Big piece. | ||
Just like I did a big piece last year on their fifth, what was their fifth story today? | ||
Okay, listen, I want to go to this. | ||
Look, we're signal, not noise here. | ||
We always like, like Wellington, we like to look over the other side of the hill about what's happening. | ||
There is a crisis that's going to explode in April and May of epic proportions. | ||
It's going to be on the southern border in the middle of a pandemic. | ||
It's going to be this tragedy from Central America, from all over the world, because the Biden administration is signaling right now, open, you know, closed schools, open borders. | ||
And what's happening is that people are coming up in droves to northern Mexico and the cartels are getting up there through the frontline nations in Central America. | ||
And Raheem Kassami, the brain analysis, this is very much like 2015 in Europe. | ||
And what Angela Merkel signaled in 2015 that started the migrant crisis that really exploded over Europe, it led to the rise of populism, Salvini, all these people nobody had heard about actually I think very much helped drive the Brexit which Raheem Kassam was Nigel Farage's wingman. | ||
But to get back we're going to do all that and go through that in the days ahead because we want to get ahead of this crisis because I'll tell you where a solution doesn't lie. | ||
A solution does not lie on working-class Hispanics and African-Americans in this country. | ||
It is unacceptable about what's going to go on here and that's why we're going to go down to the Rio Grande Valley today to talk to one of the leaders of this situation and why working-class Hispanics are starting to vote for President Trump in record numbers because they understand the global corporations and Wall Street and the Uniparty up here of the politicians that are bought and paid for. | ||
You know, are in service to them and not worrying about working-class people. | ||
Also later in the show we're going to get Glenn Greenwald, a reporter who I think is fantastic, yesterday on a live interview with the Daily Caller referred to Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon as right-wing socialists and said when Donald Trump won in 16 he was a right-wing socialist, so we'll get into all that. | ||
But I want to go to this other piece, and Raheem, I'm really proud of both the show and National Pulse. | ||
You know, this huge controversy broke out last night, even through Gasoline and the Fire. | ||
This is the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times reported that now they've got, I think, evidence that members of Governor Cuomo's staff were actually part of this, it looks like an organized effort, if you believe those stories, a fairly organized effort to mislead people about what actually happened in these nursing homes and to really kind of suppress the numbers and make it look like more of them died in hospitals. | ||
As you know, we're very proud of this show. | ||
We're the first show ever to focus on the pandemic starting in mid-January of 2020 because of our knowledge of the Chinese Communist Party and our relationships in China. | ||
I think for an entire month, I think it was six weeks, we were actually live, the afternoon show was live on WABC in New York because of our coverage of the pandemic and we saw many of the situations going on there. | ||
President Trump and Peter Navarro and the rest of the team, remember, refitted The USS Comfort, the great hospital ship in Norfolk, Virginia, my hometown, and refitted, I think, in a week, sent the hospital ship up to the west side piers in New York City, took the Javits Center, which is a great convention center, Comic-Con New York and all these big conventions happen there, took the Javits Center, turned it into a field hospital. | ||
Actually, in Central Park, the U.S. | ||
Army came up and built another field hospital, and the Christian group, Billy Graham's group, with his son Franklin Graham, put $2 million to Samaritan's Port, and they built a hospital. | ||
Right? | ||
There was huge capacity, because you remember on the show, what do we always say? | ||
It was ICU capacity was the problem, and at that time the ventilators and PPE. | ||
Navarro, the President directed him to get all over top of the ventilators. | ||
If Cuomo says he needs 40,000, we'll get them there. | ||
If he needs PPE, we'll get them there. | ||
We're going to build every hospital. | ||
The President took, remember the day that we had the, we had said, you know, New York City considered quarantining. | ||
The President came out on the lawn, taking the helicopter down. | ||
I think it was March 14th or 15th, took the helicopter down to Norfolk to see off the USS Comfort. | ||
It wasn't lost on anybody that, and Lee you've lived in New York City, and Amanda I know you've hung out there a lot, it wasn't lost on anybody that the ship, the Javits Center Field Hospital, the field hospital in Central Park, and Samaritan's Purse kind of went unused. | ||
And so in May, Raheem Kassam, we were trying to find the clips over the weekend, Raheem Kassam in the Daily Pulse, or the National Pulse, did an amazing story and the headline was, What Raheem Kassam? | ||
It was a recipe for disaster. | ||
Democrat governors put COVID-19 patients in nursing homes contributing to thousands of deaths dated May the 13th, 2020. | ||
May 13th, 2020. | ||
By the way, that was the time we were getting a lot of pressure from people we know to say, people had laughed at us when we called this pandemic. | ||
But in May, a lot of people come and say, you've got to take pandemic off. | ||
The pandemic's kind of played off. | ||
This thing's going to open up in June and July. | ||
And it's going to boom, the economy's going to boom. | ||
I said, whoa, I said, this actually came from Wuhan, right? | ||
It is part of a bioweapons program. | ||
I'm not saying they purposely let it out, but it's a gain-of-function experiment. | ||
I believe this thing's impervious to heat and humidity. | ||
Impervious! | ||
I kind of think this may explode over the summer. | ||
So I think we'll just keep pandemic for right now. | ||
Rahim, what gave you the insight? | ||
Because quite frankly, you go back, there was virtually no news coverage, and you really took it off of, I think it was the unions and the health workers that were very concerned about decisions made by Governor Phil Murphy, but particularly at that time, remember, Trump was being mocked and ridiculed for his press conferences. | ||
Cuomo won an Emmy for his daily and they were sent out to the nation to the world cnn broadcast them all over the globe you can see como everyday for his updates for him to sound well uh... firstly there were a lot of uh... places like a a r p putting out uh... press releases and information and and i know nothing about what a r p is but but uh... i remember the time jack post so big was was tweeting about it and i went to him and i said hey look we need to | ||
we to look into this a little bit more and and jackie's or jack way went Sure, go ahead. | ||
So I got a couple of volunteer writers who were at the National Pulse with us back then to start digging through and finding out who was actually talking about this. | ||
What are the numbers we're talking about? | ||
What are the states we're talking about? | ||
And what are the orders that are being given? | ||
And sure enough, we put this piece together. | ||
I think it's about 850 words or something like that. | ||
We put this piece together that lists exactly what was going on. | ||
And to their credit, there were two other outlets that did do something on this around the same time as well. | ||
One was USA Today and the other was the New York Post. | ||
But broadly speaking, most people totally ignored what was going on. | ||
So, so, you know, we have this on record, but in addition to Cuomo, we're all talking about Cuomo now. | ||
In addition to Cuomo, it was also Witmer, it was also Wolff, it was also Newsom. | ||
They were all doing this, all following the same playbooks. | ||
So let's see from their staff what happened in their states and what reports were covered up when, where, why there also. | ||
Because this isn't just Andrew Cuomo. | ||
Andrew Cuomo is just the most brazen example of this. | ||
Why were these Democratic governors of these big states of Michigan, Pennsylvania and California? | ||
What was the logic in back of this? | ||
For me it seems like the logic was they wanted to take very quick victory laps. | ||
Remember politically where we were. | ||
Before the election, everybody wanted to, you know, be on the front foot, place on the main stage, place in the argument, place in the debate. | ||
You get steer of the Democrat Party if you're shown to be ahead and in control of all of this. | ||
And that's, you know, Andrew Cuomo was up there giving the press conference every day, you know, with his nipple rings hanging out and all of the stuff. | ||
Now, you know, that happened. | ||
And the media lauded him. | ||
We're a mixed company. | ||
Can we clean this up now? | ||
I said it before she did! | ||
The media just lauded this man over and over and over again in his attempt to steer the conversation and amass political capital for himself. | ||
Remember, he wasn't just in a fight with the right at the time, and he wasn't just trying to stick his oar into the presidential campaign, he was also kind of in a fight with de Blasio at the time as well. | ||
So Cuomo really needed that moment, and so what he did, and now what we're learning, and I think a lot of us suspected this was going on the whole time, was that they have actually been covering up the details of all of this. | ||
He's got another problem too and when we come back I want to get our two guests who are artists and have, I guess, work in cultures and in industries where it's very dominated by powerful men and we want to go to this, we want to talk about this other situation that's exploded and quite frankly I think until the Wall Street Journal story last night about the staff and the memos Was really overwhelming this was overwhelming the other story. | ||
So we're going to get to that when we get back with Amanda Milley is the film director of the plot against the president and Lee Brown a fashion designer and portrait artist. | ||
We've got a special presentation Lee came in today to make to a very special person that we're going to have a lot more coverage of in the days ahead on the war room. | ||
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break when we return. | ||
We're going to stay in New York. | ||
We've got a lot of a lot to cover day. | ||
We're going to be talking polling about Joe Biden. | ||
Also, gotta talk about Joe Biden's schedule at Rahim Ghassan. | ||
Very disturbing that he has a vice president, it seems like, bolted at the hip. | ||
I don't quite understand that, knowing how a White House is supposed to work. | ||
Okay, short commercial break. | ||
Return with Lee Brown, Amanda Milius, Rahim Ghassan, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
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Pandemic. | ||
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The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
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Cameron's pretty good because he makes Navy brew, right? | ||
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It's very... By the way, I just got an email in case you thought I was actually joking. | |
Can you read that for people? | ||
What's the subject line of that? | ||
Drunken raisins have been shipped? | ||
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They're on their way. | ||
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My ginseng raisins are on their way. | |
We're going to have, by the way, the Queen of New Jersey. | ||
We are going to have a special broadcast. | ||
She's going to be part of a segment. | ||
We were going to try to do it today, but we had some technical issues. | ||
We really want to do this right. | ||
She's a very special person, 105 years old. | ||
She's come through You know, she's not letting Phil Murphy and Cuomo get the better of her. | ||
She's getting through this pandemic the old-fashioned way. | ||
Gin-soaked raisins at 105 years old. | ||
God bless her. | ||
She is an inspiration to all of us. | ||
We want to make sure we do this segment right. | ||
Lee Brown, who's I think one of the top portrait artists around, has done something very special we're going to get to later in the show. | ||
I want to pivot. | ||
We've got so much news to get to. | ||
So much signal. | ||
By the way, tomorrow, two-hour special broadcast in the CCP. | ||
It's one of the reasons we need the vitamins, okay? | ||
One of the things I love most about the vitamins, besides how great they are, is the packaging. | ||
We've got the Spartan helmets on here, so you can be one of the 300, right, at Thermopylae. | ||
I did that for Milius. | ||
Okay, I want to pull the camera back for a second and I want to talk to you two as artists. | ||
What's going on, and particularly the power dynamics, because I think particularly older males, I said when the Golden Globes were on a couple of years ago, when Oprah gave that speech, I was watching it with a guy from Bloomberg. | ||
I said, this is not about the Me Too movement. | ||
This is about the Time's Up movement. | ||
They're making a statement that this is the end of the patriarchy, right? | ||
Patriarchy had 10 or 15,000 year run. | ||
Boom! | ||
It's going to be a new order in town. | ||
You can start to see it play through these power dynamics, particularly in the Me Too movement that kind of swept through Hollywood and corporate America. | ||
Well, I'd believe that if it wasn't so selectively enforced. | ||
I mean, the patriarchy's over for people that they're done with and that they need to toss out for some reason, you know, the big they. | ||
But it's, I mean, you still hear about this stuff all the time. | ||
Hollywood's not going to stop being Hollywood. | ||
There's always going to be. | ||
I mean, Hollywood runs on on that. | ||
Hollywood runs on what? | ||
Desperate actresses who have have left their, you know, homes and whatchamacallit, Indiana, with a wink and a smile to come out to California and get noticed at the right nightclub at the right audition. | ||
and it is a natural behavior of women and men to utilize their various power structures and hollywood boils it down similarly to the way dc boils it down you see this in dc a little bit as well just on my god you minus five on the attractiveness scale but i was telling me you know i mean like you see like a like a decent l a five flirting with like a unmarried congressman or something or or married one frankly and or or some staff or whatever but it's like and it's not a good idea that this is a little media | ||
matters blown up right now and i know that i don't have a whole lot and i knew that john miller's daughter would be in here Just, you know, look-shaming people right at the beginning. | ||
I know, I know. | ||
God, you're coming in hot. | ||
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Guns a-blazin'. | ||
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Let's leave, I just want to take a holler for a second. | |
As far as the news goes, and particularly looking at it as women, do you think the Cuomo situation of what's happening with the women is coming forward now every day in more depth, right? | ||
Is that to spin away from the beating heart of this central problem about the pandemic, about government's relationship, about decisions that were made and now looks like they were covered up, of the horrific nature of the For sure. | ||
It's a double win. | ||
I mean, for them, they get another notch on this sexual harassment theme in the media today, and Time's Up, and they get to look... The left going after him right now gets two things. | ||
They get to, for whatever reason, they get to distract from the actual crime, right? | ||
The actual sin of neglect and using this crisis, like never let a crisis go to waste, of using it for political gain, which is so obviously what they did, which is so cynical and dark, as far as the nursing home thing goes. | ||
So they get to move the narrative away from that, and then they get to move it towards we are killing one of our own because he committed the sin of sexual harassment, which is a narrative they want. | ||
It's all a narrative game, and they're so good at it, they don't even know they're doing it. | ||
They're just pivoting. | ||
It's of course they don't want it to be on TV. | ||
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on the nursing home thing. It's like... And I think they know that the, you know, it's mass murder. | |
That's what he did. And they're pivoting to the sexual harassment because they know nothing will come of that. It's a much lesser crime. They can brush it off. He can apologize. I'm so sorry. And the women will become stars. They'll become political hot risers because they'll be brave. | ||
Hang on, you're saying that... | ||
that they knew about or this was kind of knowledge they knew about on the women's side in the only brought to the forefront the horrific nature accordingly brown mass murder that's also that's i that's a head you do a pretty good i think it's a good thing that headlines i think it's a given that any powerful man it's like uh... the assumed blackmail they have on that they can dig up sexual harassment and in any poll politicians life and anybody in in public office | ||
anybody in power uh... and i think that when it comes time to play that card they just pull the card Thank you. | ||
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You just used the word mass murder. | |
Maybe extreme, but... You're an artist, but you also understand kind of what's going on. | ||
And you're a former New Yorker, you live there. | ||
When you look at the situation of those nursing homes and what happened, why do you use the term mass murder? | ||
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Well, wasn't it over a thousand people that died in the nursing homes? | |
I think Rudy Giuliani says 15,000. | ||
We don't know. | ||
You really don't know because it's a disease. | ||
I mean, it keeps going. | ||
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It's more people than, you know, who died at the Capitol on the 6th. | |
That's for sure. | ||
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And look at the treatment there. | |
I want to go back for a second, though. | ||
Are you saying that although the hiding and suppression of the information, and jump in here, You're actually saying that decisions were made that jeopardized them and they wouldn't have died anyway. | ||
They actually were murdered by sending them back to the nursing home. | ||
Is that the conclusion you've come to as an informed citizen? | ||
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Yes. | |
I mean, didn't they have the SS Comfort there? | ||
I mean, there were so many facilities. | ||
Yeah, but those would have given credit to Do you believe he's that cynical? | ||
Do you think there are going to be emails and text messages and people under testimony going to sit there and go, we decided that there was going to be a problem politically if Trump got too much credit for making all this available? | ||
I don't know if you're going to see it as explicitly, but I don't think you have to. | ||
I think it's subconscious. | ||
These people are running on this. | ||
It's like ants communicating with each other with pheromones. | ||
They don't have to say it's going to look good for Trump if the emergency services that the federal government provided were used. | ||
I think it's just second nature in some ways. | ||
You'll see something. | ||
I'm not entirely sure how... You know who we haven't heard from? | ||
Who? | ||
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we won't even find it. De Blasio. Well he came out saying it. | |
He said it's not one of them. Just barely. | ||
He hasn't touched the nurse. But he hates Cuomo. | ||
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Yeah, wasn't it enough just to throw him under the bus? | |
When these guys are feuding openly, those guys are openly at each other's throats all the time, right? | ||
Publicly. | ||
Now, it's like a targeted thing where he came out with a statement, and very, very cautious. | ||
I think you're seeing here, and this is why I disagree, it's just a distraction. | ||
The Me Too stuff is just a distraction from the nursing homes. | ||
I think you're seeing a guy who overextended his reach in New York, over his own party even, Miffed too many people off and you're seeing the comeback. | ||
The payback? | ||
Let me go, we've got about two minutes in the segment, I'll go back to the women's situation. | ||
If you didn't have the nursing homes, I'll start with Lee Brennan, if you didn't have the nursing homes, with the evidence that's been forwarded there today, one of the councilwomen I think at Brooklyn said, one more comes forward, he's done. | ||
But with the evidence you've seen today, is that enough for, not just an investigation as the Attorney General's doing, but do you think it's enough to force him to resign today? | ||
On the women thing? | ||
What the magic number is four? | ||
A councilwoman I think in Brooklyn has said that. | ||
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You get three and then you're done. | |
I'm saying that's what she's saying. | ||
Do you think that with the evidence you've seen today with the women coming forward that it's enough to force them to resign? | ||
Absent the nursing home situation. | ||
Lee Brown. | ||
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I don't think so. | |
Why? | ||
I mean, I've got to be honest, I haven't followed it as closely. | ||
I've only really heard from the one woman and it doesn't really seem like there's a full force attack here. | ||
I don't think we're going to hear a lot about it. | ||
So you don't think it gets into actual sexual assault? | ||
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Or even crimes? | |
I haven't really heard what the crimes are. | ||
I've just heard allegations. | ||
The woman last night in her interview said that he wanted to sleep with me, I think it was. | ||
Yeah but like what that so she's in her mind she's like yeah he wanted to sleep with me because everybody wants to sleep with me. | ||
I should use that. | ||
I thought the standard was the woman always has to be believed. | ||
Oh, of course, unless they're on the right. | ||
But yeah, I mean, I think that it depends what the one more says. | ||
I mean, what the magic number four... Well, I'm not saying there's a fourth. | ||
I think the one, the Brooklyn County, the councilman, I think they're just saying, hey, if a fourth comes forward at any situation, he's got to go. | ||
It's a little weird that this hasn't knocked him further, but I think what's going to really get him is the visual of him being so arrogant and resisting it. | ||
You know how he did? | ||
He really fumbled that press conference the other day. | ||
With the crying? | ||
You don't think it was sincere? | ||
I don't think so, and I think that the left, that his enemies do not like... As a director, you thought that was not a real moment? | ||
I did not buy it. | ||
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Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
We're going to turn with the journey of Lee Brown, an artist that she actually mentioned January 6th. | ||
That was not as many dead. | ||
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We'll be back in the War Room in a second. | ||
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We have two artists. | ||
I'm on it. | ||
Amanda Millis. | ||
And what people don't understand, I haven't explained enough. | ||
Amanda was actually in the administration. | ||
You were over at the State Department. | ||
So she was with us in 2016. | ||
Went into the administration, worked there, labored in the vineyard over in the administration, the State Department, banging heads. | ||
Almost went to the West Wing, to the White House. | ||
No, I was detailed to the White House for six months. | ||
Not the West Wing, but the EOB. | ||
That's where all the cool kids hang out. | ||
That's where the troublemakers like Peter Navarro and those guys are. | ||
Yeah, you almost had to rescue me and send me to Navarro as a member. | ||
That was going to be part of the plan. | ||
You were like, let's call Navarro. | ||
He'll take you. | ||
And I was like, I don't think he needs a comms chick. | ||
All the secrets coming out now. | ||
But it was, I was really debating it. | ||
I mean, it would have been... And then you left to make the film. | ||
Right, it would have been Navarro or the movie, which would have been... Which I argued for Navarro, you took the movie. | ||
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I mean, I think it would have been, you know... It turned out okay. | |
Well, the movie turned out to be a hit and very powerful for 2020. | ||
Lee Smith's book was amazing. | ||
It was a plot against the president. | ||
We'll get into all that. | ||
But you guys have had journeys. | ||
Lee Brown's probably had a journey farther. | ||
When she's using January 6th, well, not as many people died out there on the 6th. | ||
She's going to testify in front of Pelosi's commission. | ||
I don't know what's going on here, right? | ||
But Lee, you started, as many artists do, as fairly progressive, I would say left-wing, and now you've had a journey. | ||
So go through that. | ||
What brought you to the world? | ||
Because you're a fashion designer. | ||
Vivian Westwood, your hero. | ||
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I worked at Nordstrom Express, Blank NYC as part of the team that founded that. | |
And you're a portrait artist. | ||
So walk us through, walk us through, and by the way, the reason we're doing this today is for this audience about how you open up and have a conversation with people who are close to you or people you know that don't agree with anything that you stand for, anything you talk about. | ||
In the story of Lee Brown and in Millius, Amanda Millius, you will see the opportunities To actually present information and convert people. | ||
They have to convert themselves. | ||
There can't be a forced conversion. | ||
No forced conversions in this movement. | ||
But, Lee, why don't you tell us how you got here? | ||
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Yeah, well, it's really a political coming-of-age story. | |
You know, I remember after Trump had won in 2016, I felt like a hammer had been smashed into my head. | ||
I couldn't get out of bed. | ||
I was so, like, depressed. | ||
When I had woke up in the morning, saw he had won, I was like, What? | ||
Like how is this even possible? | ||
So I was filled with, you know, a lot of curiosity, but also like, it was very, it was just utterly depressing, you know, and then I'm calling my friends, they're crying, you know, it was real. | ||
And I walked out on The time, you know, I walked to go get a coffee, like I could barely move. | ||
And everyone had that look in their eye where they looked at each other like, oh, you know, like a commiserating. | ||
But yeah, I ended up I just had so much anxiety, you know, going to parties, hanging out with friends, you know, we're always talking about Trump and how he's, you know, he's driving us off a cliff, you know, we're all stuck in the back, we have no control. | ||
And so, you know, being a creative and having all this anxiety, I wanted to work it out on the page. | ||
And so I started doing political drawings. | ||
You had never done a political drawing at that time? | ||
No portraits? | ||
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No, I was mostly focused on like fashion illustration, drawing things from the shows like Valentino, you know, Westwood, McQueen, that sort of thing. | |
and uh... so i'm sort of pivoting here and then trying to run pin posting and you know i was trolling him and then i i did want to be you and i was like well god this guy you know and i you should i went back yesterday i was reading some of the things i wrote and i was a comic dot how can i say this is amazing i've never had a good idea that i was introduced to the latest in this a Wow. | ||
And not just that, she's so smart and brilliant. | ||
She really knows... some hate you just get, you just brush it off. | ||
I said, man, this is serious hate. | ||
This is thoughtful hate. | ||
This is well done. | ||
This is artistic hate. | ||
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Right? | |
Yeah, so pretty much I started off trolling and then I had drawn one of you and then I was like, whoa, what the hell is going on with this guy? | ||
You know, there was just like a, there was a, it was, you have a very dynamic face. | ||
And so it was perfect as well, you know, so then I just kind of continued and sort of fixated on you. | ||
And I guess you could call it an obsession. | ||
It definitely was. | ||
She went to a dark place. | ||
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You and I have some of the stories. | |
Yeah, the quote I use is like, there's so much to draw from a face that's giving, you know? | ||
We've got to make sure we're going to curate and put some of these up. | ||
Your gaze is, like, inward, you know? | ||
So it just kept drawing me in, and I couldn't stop, and I was trying, I was really trying, you know? | ||
I thought, oh my God, this is crazy! | ||
You know, I've got to draw other people, but I couldn't. | ||
And so I just, you know, continued. | ||
The more, you know, when I first started drawing you, there were all these images I could just easily reference, you know, but like, as I kept going, I needed to get a bit more creative. | ||
So then it forced me to go on to like right wing or conservative websites or, you know, media outlets. | ||
And it also forced me to listen, you know, in interviews. | ||
And I thought, hang on, this guy isn't like the devil. | ||
Uh, you know, he's not a demon. | ||
He's an intellectual. | ||
He's very intelligent and completely rational. | ||
And a lot of what he's saying makes sense, you know? | ||
And, um, so I guess kind of as I continued drawing, I just kind of was getting more and more, you know, right. | ||
That's amazing. | ||
That right there is why they have the censoring and the canceling, because they know that if you do anything but hear their narrative, if you even as a critic just look at the subject for yourself, even wanting to judge it badly, that you will be red-pilled. | ||
I want to go back just a second to the East Village and to the artistic community. | ||
Trump is a New York guy. | ||
Obviously overwhelms the media in New York all the time, particularly as you're running. | ||
One time I was sitting there with one of his candidates, and he has the New York Times, and he turns to me and says, you know, before I ran for president, I had, I think, six page one stories in the New York Times. | ||
And he says, look today, and we look, and there's six, this is like in October, there's six in one day. | ||
But they're all awful. | ||
They're like tacky. | ||
They've got the women tack, they've got the financial tack, they've got his policies are fascist. | ||
I mean, they're horrible. | ||
And he goes, yeah, but you know, they're all on the front page. | ||
In that milieu, in the East Village, in the artistic community, which is really the beating heart of kind of the global art community, When you started to actually look at right-wing, and come with your own brain, because you're not, you know, nobody's pitching you, hey guys, look at Ben a different way, is where you came from, are they in such a cocoon? | ||
Because they're very smart people. | ||
Is it just the information that they allow themselves to look at is so constricted that they never hear the other side? | ||
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Yeah, and I remember people saying like, oh, you know, if you're surprised Trump won, you live in a bubble. | |
And I remember thinking, okay, fair enough. | ||
You know, I'm in New York. | ||
You know, I may be in a bubble, but I'm from Northern Virginia. | ||
I have family in rural Pennsylvania. | ||
You know, I have ventured outside of New York. | ||
Is it really a bubble? | ||
It was, and I didn't know. | ||
And, you know, everyone, all creatives are pretty much the same. | ||
That's kind of how, you know, the way it's gone. | ||
And so you don't really hear opinions outside of that unless you're open to it. | ||
And, you know, as I had continued drawing, I had a lot of people, like a former vice president at a company, pull me, you know, into her office and say, hey, I just want to let you know, like, I voted for Trump. | ||
You can't tell anyone. | ||
Are you kidding me? | ||
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She was like, don't you dare repeat this ever. | |
A lot of people told me in private that they had voted for him. | ||
One designer came from a police, a family of police officers, her dad, her brother, you know, and she was like, I can never tell anyone. | ||
Yeah, you get the creatives' confessions. | ||
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I get that from... Yeah, there are a lot of closet conservatives. | |
Even people, you know, on the West Coast, in Seattle, in L.A., they've reached out to me. | ||
Even in London, you know, people who work in the education system have said, hey, you know, I agree with a lot of, you know, these narratives, but I said never. | ||
Yeah. | ||
As you started that journey in drawing, you said you started to go to right-wing sites or more conservative sites outside your bubble to get more information to throw down more hate. | ||
What was it, do you remember, what was the first issues where you start sitting there, either the interviews or the talks they gave at Oxford or whatever, they said, hey, I may not totally agree with these guys, but they're not demons and maybe there's some logic to what they're saying. | ||
Do you remember when that took place? | ||
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I don't, you know, I remember it was definitely through interviews. | |
And maybe you had done one in Australia with this woman. | ||
I thought that was pretty good. | ||
And then who's that? | ||
The Greek guy, I think. | ||
Oh, Stephanopoulos? | ||
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Yeah. | |
I remember that one too. | ||
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That one as well. | |
Which is crazy, because the interviews, you know, you're already getting mistreated because it's the mainstream press, they're already editing it to make you look as bad as possible, and even that, when exposed, is appealing to people. | ||
That's what I always demand, like on the 60 Minutes, we did two segments, it was three hours. | ||
I said, I will do, it's like Fresno State, I will go anywhere, anytime, anyplace to either debate and or to do an interview, but You've got to put the whole interview up. | ||
I need to see the whole, you need to see the whole, and quite frankly the two filmmakers, The Brink and American Dharma with Errol Mars, if they ever put up, Errol Mars I think I have 16 or 20 hours of interviews, 25 hours, maybe 30, and I think in The Brink they have 200 hours of footage. | ||
If they ever put all the footage up, It's totally different than what they cut at the film, right? | ||
That's why you've got to have a recording of it. | ||
Yes, unfortunately we didn't negotiate that at the time. | ||
It's also, I think what Glenn Greenwald said last night, that Tucker and I are right-wing socialists, but he listed out Not us taking, we don't want control, state control of the production power, but he says, you know, Tucker and then Bannon, they're always trying to defend the working class people. | ||
I'm a populist, right? | ||
And I think right-wing populism is the future of working class people because it gets you the best of capitalism and the best of getting, you know, the Returns from capital spread back over to labor, which is what we need. | ||
The last thing we need is this new system of state-controlled capital, which is like the CCP. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
Then you see the power of the elite, which only get wealthier. | ||
So when you, as you went through this journey, how did your friends, did your friends start noticing that maybe, hey, the things aren't quite so hater anymore. | ||
You're talking, you're talking, you're bringing up weirder stuff. | ||
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Yeah, I guess I became a little more ostracized or, you know, people, you know, kind of being like, what's going on? | |
You know, in the beginning, I think they were amused by it. | ||
You know, they were like, why him? | ||
What are you doing? | ||
It was so bizarre. | ||
It's like an artistic, quirky thing. | ||
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Yeah, and they thought it was funny, you know? | |
They were commenting that, you know, it was great. | ||
Until they didn't. | ||
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Until they realized, like, oh, I think she might be being serious, you know? | |
She's infatuated with it now. | ||
The eyes, it's like the thing at the end of Indiana Jones or whatever, where it's like she got sucked into the statue. | ||
No, but when did you actually start talking? | ||
We got about 30 seconds left. | ||
When did you start talking about you actually may agree with some Trump policies? | ||
Was that a line of demarcation your friends go, it's not funny anymore? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
That was probably like, I don't know, nine months out. | ||
You know, it took a while to get there. | ||
The process takes a long time, especially when you've been so like browbeat. | ||
With propaganda, you know? | ||
It takes a long time to unlearn that on your own. | ||
We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
This is an amazing story, but it's for the audience. | ||
The reason we wanted to do this today on this Friday was to let you know out there, this is all about, we set this apparatus up for human agency to empower yourself, but this is also a way that you can empower people around you if you give them access to the information. | ||
You can't do forced conversions here, but you can if you provide information. | ||
In Access. | ||
We can't. | ||
Short commercial break. | ||
We're gonna come back. | ||
I think we got the trailer from the plot against the president. | ||
We're gonna talk to the filmmaker Amanda Milius and also got Lee Brown's gonna stick with us for the entire show. | ||
Be back in a second. | ||
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The American Pronunciation Guide Presents but that they've been weaponized to go after perceived domestic enemies. | ||
And that's very scary. | ||
Our constitutional democracy enshrines the peaceful transfer of power. | ||
We are now all rooting for his success. | ||
The peaceful transition of power is one of the hallmarks of our democracy. | ||
We don't live in the United States of America as any of us would like to understand it. | ||
We have a peaceful transition of power process. | ||
That's not what happened. | ||
They interviewed General Flynn and they did it in what was a complete ambush. | ||
I thought it's early enough, let's just send a couple guys over. | ||
And the audience was, ha ha ha, how funny to set up an innocent man. | ||
This is what third world security states do. | ||
They spy on their political opponents like this. | ||
This is part of a concerted Russian influence operation. | ||
Russian interference. | ||
They colluded. | ||
They were in on it. | ||
He would constantly say, I have seen evidence of collusion. | ||
Until this is released, I can't comment. | ||
I can't go into the particulars. | ||
Russians, I'm not going to be specific. | ||
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He knew he could just say it on TV and then hide behind, well, it's all classified. | |
I can't get into it. | ||
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Well, it's classified. | |
You can't see it. | ||
Collusion. | ||
You just got to be willing to see it. | ||
New York's Daily News ran this front page, Trump is Hitler. | ||
How could 62 million Americans vote for Hitler? | ||
Are 62 million Americans Nazis? | ||
You really almost thought it was a joke, like really you're not going to accept that you lost this election? | ||
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Then they see the Russia collusion narrative sitting right there in front of them and say, why don't we just say that he cheated? | |
It divided the country in ways that people can't imagine. | ||
It's inspired massive violence. | ||
It's given people who are bad faith actors a license to do whatever they want because they literally feel like they're fighting Russian spies and Nazis. | ||
Russiagate has been the most egregious abuse of everything that was supposed to have been good about our government. | ||
The thing that they were investigating the Trump campaign for is what they themselves were doing. | ||
Wow. | ||
That is the plot against the president. | ||
We're here with the young filmmaker that made that, Amanda Milius. | ||
That's your first directing gig? | ||
For a feature. | ||
For a feature? | ||
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Amazingly powerful. | ||
Thank you. | ||
I know Lee Smith's book, but tell us how you got the idea and how you pulled that together. | ||
Well, my friends in the admin and around the admin had been either major or minor players in the Russiagate hoax uncovering, whether they were at NSC or working for Nunes, like Kash Patel, and they, you know, we would all gather and talk about this, and they were like, you know what, Lee Smith is writing this amazing book that is telling the real side of the story, and he's really got it. | ||
This would make an amazing movie. | ||
And then they come to me and they're like, you know how to do that, right? | ||
So you do it. | ||
Like, here. | ||
Like, how to make a movie out of this. | ||
And then I was like, well, I'd have to resign. | ||
And you know, I came and saw you. | ||
I mean, it was like, it was this whole drama of do I resign? | ||
Can I do more in the government versus resign and take chances on making this movie? | ||
Set up a company real quick and try and make this. | ||
So it could get out for 2020. | ||
So people could actually put it in perspective. | ||
And we did it in less than a hundred days. | ||
I mean, that's what's insane about it, which I will never do again. | ||
I almost don't want anyone to know that, because I think my partners will expect that again in the future. | ||
And I'm like, no, you don't make movies under a hundred days. | ||
Hold on, hold on. | ||
You shot that and edited it? | ||
We were coloring it. | ||
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Let me tell you, Hans, we were doing color and sound. | |
We did it in reels, which is not how you're supposed to do things. | ||
We did it in reels because we had to. | ||
Because you can't balance it. | ||
Right. | ||
Otherwise it won't get done. | ||
So we were literally still coloring it probably less than 48 hours before it went live on the first platform. | ||
Like we colored it, you know, final layoff and it was getting uploaded. | ||
Like final layoff and it's getting uploaded to the distributor. | ||
It was insane. | ||
So I mean, not the way you're supposed to do things, but what we did it. | ||
But yeah, no. | ||
So I resigned like this time, you know, not even like I haven't been out for even a year. | ||
Like I resigned at the end of March, early April of last year from State Department. | ||
And I just went right into it. | ||
And of course, COVID is happening at the same time, which is a mess. | ||
But you know, it really helped us get some of those very dreary, lonely shots of D.C. | ||
You know, these dark, dreary shots, which is the idea, you know, to have. | ||
That's one of the things I think that works about it is I'd always done fiction, scripted content. | ||
I never did. | ||
I never imagined I'd do documentary. | ||
So I think that this is nonfiction, but it almost feels like it. | ||
It feels like a spy thriller. | ||
It's like a spy thriller when you watch it. | ||
You don't actually know it happened from real events. | ||
We copied the influence, visually the most, was All the President's Men, Pakula, which is such an awesome movie. | ||
And it's so visually perfect about DC. | ||
It really gives you that imposing evil government building, all the way they shoot the architecture. | ||
And to actually pay attention to those things, I think that's why it works. | ||
A lot of conservative films, I mean, you know this, you've been watching and making conservative films for a long time, that you would be a great critic of this stuff, is a lot of these guys, they'll pick up a book and they'll be like, because I like this book, or because I like this topic, thus I'm a filmmaker and I can do it. | ||
And it becomes like a homework assignment. | ||
And you're like, nobody wants to watch your movie about documents. | ||
People wanna watch movies about people. | ||
Which is why I think this worked. | ||
Well, that's the difference, you came from Hollywood. | ||
I mean, you came from, your father's one of the great writer-directors of his generation. | ||
his generation. And a big fan of yours. Well he's a bright way. No he's look I idolize that guy. He's so amazing and written so many great scripts and made so many great films and as you know I consider him a modern John Ford. Oh he would love that. He is a John modern John Ford I think. It's amazing. | ||
Okay, we're going to take a break when we get to the second hour of the show. | ||
One thing I just want to make sure, one reason we have the artists here today and we're doing this is about how you get, and you've got to share, if you share this material, I mean Lee Brown's journey tells you that. | ||
If you share the material, if you give access to the material, you don't have to spend people and you don't have to have forced conversions. | ||
But getting people to sign up, getting this information out every day, you never know when somebody, a Lee Brown in your life is going to sit there and go, hey can you tell me more about, it's like it's the Andrew Breitbart conversion story, remember Andrew Breitbart came from Tulane, totally left winger, just a guy drifting through life as a thing, and Orson Bean, his father-in-law said, He mentioned one day, hey, I'm driving around town running scripts around, I'm listening to this guy Rush Limbaugh. | ||
And he pulled the book, Rush Limbaugh's book out, and said, and Andrew said, isn't this guy crazy, right? | ||
And he said, no, just listen to him. | ||
That, in the Clarence Thomas hearing, was what converted Andrew Breitbart to be one of the absolute stalwarts of our movement. | ||
OK, take a short commercial break. | ||
We'll be back with the pollster Richard Barris. |