Feb. 20, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Shall we gather at the river? | |
| And I heard as it were the noise of thunder. | ||
| One of the four beasts saying, come and see. | ||
| And I saw, and behold, a white horse. | ||
| There's a man going round taking names And he decides who to free and who to blame Everybody won't be treated all the same There'll be a golden ladder reaching down | ||
| When the man comes around The hairs on your arm will stand up At the terror in each tip and in each top Will you partake of that last stuffered cup? | ||
| Or disappear into the potter's drop? | ||
| When the man comes around Hear the trumpet, hear the pipers | ||
| One hundred million angels singing Multitudes are marching to that big carol drum Voices calling, voices crying Some are born and some are dying It's Alpha and Omega's kingdom come And the whirlwind is in the palm tree. | ||
| The virgins are all trimming their wigs. | ||
| The whirlwind is in the palm tree. | ||
| It's hard for thee to kick against the bricks. | ||
| Shalom again and no shalom, no shalom. | ||
| Okay, welcome to our special, and I want to thank the guys in Denver and my production crew here for helping this put together. | ||
| That is Beast Rodriguez, Beasting the Oldies. | ||
| That is a cover he's doing on the classic Johnny Cash song that Johnny Cash did towards the end of his life, When the Man Comes Around, which is really a musical interpretation of the Book of Revelation. | ||
| When the man comes around, Beast Rodriguez, make sure you go to YouTube and check his site out. | ||
| Quite an amazing young man and really amazing cover on that song. | ||
| And that song was actually the opening credit song we made with Phil Robertson, the apocalyptic movie, The Torchbearer. | ||
| And it came out, in fact it was going to be released the week that I stepped into the Trump campaign in 2016. | ||
| Didn't have the opportunity to really help push that film like it was. | ||
| This is our special, and we try to get you ahead of the curve of what's happening. | ||
| It's been quite evident to me recently with the occupation of Washington, D.C. | ||
| with 7,000 National Guard troops, fences all over. | ||
| You know, Biden's stopping the building of the wall on the southern border, but we're keeping Washington, D.C. | ||
| looking like Kabul, or like Baghdad, like the Green Zone, with troops, razor wire, fences all over the place. | ||
| But you're seeing the cutting edge of the media, whether it's Rolling Stone or some of these other publications, and they're talking about, you know, there's a problem here with white nationalism, white supremacism, there's a problem with domestic terrorism, and they've got, you know, this lingering effect that this barbed wire is going to have to stay up, these troops are going to have to stay up here until September of 2021. | ||
| There's a big national crisis, the number one national security crisis. | ||
| But the subtext, and you start seeing the reporting from the secular left, the radical secular left, is that the real problem, the real problem here is Christianity. | ||
| And what they talk about is Christian nationalism. | ||
| So we want to do a whole special day and bring in some experts. | ||
| We've got Bishop Audrey Shines from Tampa, we've got Pastor Vega, we've got Jason Jones, one of the most prolific Christian filmmakers. | ||
| We're honored in this hour to have Cheryl Chumley from the Washington Times. | ||
| She's the author of the great book, Socialists Don't Sleep, Christians Must Rise or America Will Fall, and I think it was her subtitle that kind of triggered A lot of this reporting. | ||
| But I want to start with an extraordinary young man that's actually very action-oriented. | ||
| That would be Andrew Torba of Gab. | ||
| And Andrew is not just the executive of a cutting-edge social media company that is essentially with Parler, it's one of its competitors, is taking on Twitter. | ||
| And taking on social media. | ||
| And he worked out in the belly of the beast, out in Silicon Valley. | ||
| Now back in Scranton, Pennsylvania with, I think, the hottest company in social media, Gab. | ||
| But also, not just a devout Christian, but actually has a worldview, a coherent worldview, of Christianity in the world. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Remember in Vietnam, they used to always say, when you go to Vietnam, how was it out in the world? | ||
| Where were you from in the world? | ||
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Right? | |
| Where'd you go to school in the world? | ||
| It's a little bit like that in Christianity. | ||
| Where does this place in the world, since we are becoming more and more of a secular nation? | ||
| We were very honored yesterday to have our Friday prayer. | ||
| We've been doing it here for a couple weeks by Rabbi Sparrow that talks about the Judeo-Christian, the American ethos, the American Judeo-Christian ethos that undergirds So much of what makes this an exceptional nation. | ||
| And so, Andrew, I want to start off with, you've put out and you've promulgated a fairly radical plan about, hey, you've seen this assault coming and you've seen it because you've worked in the heart of the radical secular left, which is the oligarch central of Silicon Valley. | ||
| But you've come up with a plan that's pretty breathtaking in its audacity about how Christians can bond together to fight this. | ||
| Walk us through what this plan is, your economic plan. | ||
| Christians need to exit the existing system completely, and we need to build our own Christian-centric economy. | ||
| What do I mean by that? | ||
| I mean, that means cutting the cable cord, and consuming Christian content and supporting Christian content creators or Christian news outlets. | ||
| That means leaving your big corporate bank and going to a local Christian bank or a Christian credit union. | ||
| By the way, these exist, supporting local Christian shops, basically building our own economy because the economy that we see right now with this cancel culture and this rise of critical theory and this rise of state worship over God worship is doomed to failure. | ||
| So we need to start building in preparation and take action with Christian innovation, which has been seen all throughout history. | ||
| Now is the time to innovate, now is the time to build our own economy where we support one another, and we are resistant to this cancel culture that we're seeing rise up in society and in the normal economy. | ||
| You worked out in Silicon Valley, it's really where you got the inspiration to kind of start Gab. | ||
| Am I overstating it when I say that the secular left's real target is Christianity? | ||
| No, you're absolutely correct. | ||
| I mean, as a Christian living and working in Silicon Valley, like you said, in the belly of the beast, I was the minority there. | ||
| I was the one who had to hide my faith or felt that I had to hide my faith really out of fear. | ||
| Fear of being treated differently and fear of being looked at the wrong way or You know, all these things that Christians face in the world. | ||
| You know, Christians are the most persecuted people in the world, but I think if we unite and collectively rise up to this occasion and ascend, we can collectively take down the whole system without, you know, being violent or raising a hand. | ||
| You know, the amount of purchasing power, the amount of power in the economy that Christians have, especially in the United States, So, you know, my question to Christians is, why are you giving your money? | ||
| Why are you giving your time? | ||
| Why are you giving your data to these people who hate you, who want to enslave you? | ||
| I mean, these people in Silicon Valley, when you talk about this transhumanism, this mindset that they have, they truly believe that they are God. | ||
| You know, Mark Zuckerberg believes that he is superior to the rest of us and that he has the ability to say what we can talk about, who has a voice on the internet, what we're allowed to talk about, what links we can share. | ||
| I don't think any one person should have that power. | ||
| You know, our rights come from God and no one, you know, especially not Mark Zuckerberg or any of these oligarchs in Silicon Valley, are going to dictate what rights I have as a human being. | ||
| Talk about briefly, what do you mean by transhumanism? | ||
| That's a term, one of the things we specialize in at War Room is getting nomenclature so people can understand. | ||
| When you say transhumanism in Silicon Valley and the oligarchs and vis-a-vis the Christian faith, what do you mean by that? | ||
| So they're talking about, you know, ascending the human race biologically. | ||
| They're talking about, you know, chips in your brain or altering your DNA, you know, all sorts of things that apply technology to the human biology and try to take it to, I guess, in their minds, the next level. | ||
| essentially making them gods and having all of us, the rest of us, under their control. | ||
| It's fundamentally destroying our humanity by appending technology to our bodies and they believe to our souls. | ||
| They want to live forever. | ||
| They want to be gods, which of course God is not going to take lightly to and God will pass judgment on. | ||
| It's inevitable that that's going to happen, but we need to, as Christians, recognize that this is going on. | ||
| This is not a conspiracy theory. | ||
| This is not some sci-fi movie. | ||
| This is what these guys are focused on. | ||
| This is the future that these guys are focused on bringing into power. | ||
| Consolidating their power, consolidating all the wealth to them, consolidating all the data to them, and the control of the rest of us, who can bank? | ||
| You know, Gab is a perfect example of what is going to happen to churches, to Christian organizations, to anybody that does not buy into this woke state religion, this woke Marxism, whatever you want to call it. | ||
| You will be banned from your bank. | ||
| You will be banned from the internet. | ||
| So what you need to do is start building on alternative platforms like Gab, Open up another bank account with a local bank or a Christian credit union, but they do exist. | ||
| You need to find them and more need to be built immediately. | ||
| So we need to, you know, work together right now and support one another and build this alternative economy that is free from the grasp of these tyrants in Silicon Valley and these tyrants in DC and the oligarchs in general. | ||
| I just want to make sure we understand. | ||
| You're saying that in the lived experience of people in this audience, you're going to see transhumanism. | ||
| These experiments are going on today, the convergence of artificial intelligence, advanced chip design, robotics, and biotechnology. | ||
| We know the Chinese are doing it. | ||
| You're saying that this is one of their objectives, to go beyond homo sapien, right? | ||
| To basically leave the tenets of the Judeo-Christian West in back of you and to go forward in something that is post Homo sapien. | ||
| Post-human. | ||
| Post-human, Steve, exactly. | ||
| Post-human, and they make themselves gods with this technology, and they enslave the rest of us with this. | ||
| So they have us enslaved currently, right? | ||
| They have us enslaved, you know, via these devices, right? | ||
| Via what we're putting on our phone, where we're putting our data, where we're trusting our private communications. | ||
| We don't know it, but we're enslaved digitally, and our minds are enslaved to these things. | ||
| Whether it's the TV, or whether it's the phone, the oligarchs have us mind-slaved right now. | ||
| But where they want to take it next is they want to enslave our biology. | ||
| They want to enslave our bodies by implanting chips or altering our DNA or whatever it is that they have to do to control us and make us complacent while also using that same technology to lift them up as gods and make them live forever and control the rest of us, you know as digital serfs essentially. That's what's happening right now and people need to be aware of it. | ||
| Andrew we'll get about a minute and a half. | ||
| Walk through quickly the decoupling. | ||
| You're saying that actually a project should be for every person listening to this, should begin to decouple from this economy. | ||
| You need to exit the system, right? | ||
| You need to analyze your life and say, what brands am I supporting? | ||
| Where am I shopping? | ||
| Where am I doing business with a bank? | ||
| What are their values? | ||
| Do they share my values? | ||
| Is there another bank that I can switch to that shares my values? | ||
| Is there another social network that shares my values? | ||
| Is there another media company that shares my values? | ||
| Deeply analyze the companies, the businesses, the services that you are supporting and exit their system. | ||
| If we collectively as Christians exit this system and start building our own right now, the whole system will collapse on itself. | ||
| Their wicked system will collapse to ash. | ||
| We won't need to raise a finger. | ||
| We won't need to get violent. | ||
| We just have to realize the power that we have with the purchasing power and where we're spending our time. | ||
| Andrew, how do people get to Gab? | ||
| How did they find you? | ||
| We got about 30 seconds. | ||
| How do people get on Gab? | ||
| Go to Gab.com. | ||
| We're banned from the app stores, but they can't ban us from the internet, although they've tried, and you can find me there. | ||
| I'm at A on Gab. | ||
| Andrew Torba, thank you very much. | ||
| Amazing, amazing concept. | ||
| We're going to push more of this so people get access to this information in the coming days, a week ahead. | ||
| Thank you very much for joining us on War and Pandemic, our special. | ||
| Remember, the real target here That's the real target. | ||
| That's the target of the secular left. | ||
| And Rabbi Sparrow laid it out perfectly yesterday about the Judeo-Christian West, the substrate, and actually the American ethos of that. | ||
| We're going to play that again later in the show. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break and return with my co-host Cheryl Chumley. | ||
| Cheryl Chumley of Christians Must Rise or America Will Fall. | ||
| Socialism Doesn't Sleep, her great book. | ||
| Editor over at The Washington Times. | ||
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| And I heard as it were the noise of thunder. | ||
| One of the four beasts saying, come and see. | ||
| And I saw, and behold, a white horse. | ||
| Okay, welcome back to our special. | ||
| Christianity, the real target of the secular left. | ||
| I want to bring in now Cheryl Chumley, editor of the Washington Times. | ||
| She's the author also of Socialists Don't Sleep, Christians Must Rise or America Will Fall. | ||
| Okay, and Denver can kill that music, thank you. | ||
| Denver, play it when you... Thank you very much. | ||
| Cheryl Chumley, author of Socialists Don't Sleep, Christians Must Rise, or America Will Fall. | ||
| Cheryl, I kind of blame you. | ||
| By the way, she's also star of the 8 O'Clock Club. | ||
| Every day it's a group of people. | ||
| Every day at 8 a.m. | ||
| and 8 p.m., you just remember for one minute, say a prayer, a silent prayer for your nation. | ||
| I want to bring in Cheryl Chumley now. | ||
| She's also got the podcast Bold and Blunt. | ||
| Cheryl, was it the subtitle of your book that triggered the secular left, Christians Must Rise or America Will Fall? | ||
| Did that trigger the secular left to now take on Christianity? | ||
| Because you look at all the stuff about You know, insurrectionists, treason, domestic terrorism. | ||
| When you start to do the reading of the cutting-edge journals and the cutting-edge reporters, they're all going to, hey, the problem here is Christian nationalism. | ||
| The whole problem here is these radical Christians that want to take over the country and turn it into a Taliban-like theocracy. | ||
| So what say you, Cheryl? | ||
| Is my assessment accurate, or am I off base here? | ||
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Well, that is the ultimate endgame of the left, right? | |
| It's all about elevating themselves, the Democrat Party, the left, the globalists, as God, and stripping the real God from any sort of influence in individuals' lives. | ||
| The left ultimately wants worship, right? | ||
| That's what they want. | ||
| They don't want just your vote in politics. | ||
| They want to change your heart and mind and soul so You will never again question them. | ||
| You will be good, obedient sheep. | ||
| And so, you can look at that through biblical eyes, or you can look at that through political realities, but that is ultimately the endgame of the left. | ||
| And I find it curious that you talk about the triggering aspect of the subtitle of my book, because, you know, over the last few weeks, I've wondered similarly. | ||
| I've wondered the same thing. | ||
| When I go to Amazon and I look through some of the reviews of my book, It's either five or it's one. | ||
| And it seems like every day there is somebody from the left who purposely posts a one rating and talks about the ridiculousness of Christianity in politics. | ||
| And, you know, if you know your history of America, this is American exceptionalism. | ||
| The Christian nationalism, the Judeo-Christian nationalism, is what Founding Fathers themselves, maybe not with those same words, But the idea that rights come from God, not government, and government is subservient to the people. | ||
| So, you know, Christian nationalism is a phrase the left is using to attack Christianity, which is their ultimate endgame, because the left wants individuals to worship them. | ||
| We're going to go to Bishop Aubrey Shines here in a second down in Tampa. | ||
| He's actually got a new show here on Real America's Voice. | ||
| Before we go to Bishop Shines, I want to get... Andrew Torber is one of the most impressive young men in this country. | ||
| He's got a company that's on fire and Gab is acting as an alternative to Twitter and some of the social media oligarchs. | ||
| So he's a man of action. | ||
| But his plan of essentially Decoupling. | ||
| Christians have got to make a fundamental decision here about how not just to comport themselves spiritually and how to comport themselves in life, but they've got to start looking at their economic life as linked to their spiritual values. | ||
| Do you agree with Andrew Torba that it's incumbent upon Christians to really think this through and to start to decouple from the secular institutions and particularly the secular economic institutions of this country? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| That is a brilliant action move that he suggests. | ||
| The fact that he ties into transhumanism about the threat that Christians are facing is very crucial for those in America who cherish individual liberties to understand. | ||
| That is not a conspiracy. | ||
| Go to your search engines and type in transhumanism. | ||
| There are people out in California with the transhumanist political party, which is a reality, a real thing, who have run for governor, who have tried to run for president of the United States, and who have this entire movement behind them to turn people into partial robots, and then ultimately give robots the same individual rights as individual humans. | ||
| Jeffrey Epstein, we all know about him, Jeffrey Epstein on his island wanted to create transhumanism and further it. | ||
| So I favor completely what he was saying about decoupling from the secular world right now and starting down the path of creating our own sort of Christian community where we can do business as Christians as well. | ||
| I I want to bring in now, thank you Cheryl, we'll come back to you. | ||
| She's my co-host for the entire hour. | ||
| Bold and Blunt is her podcast. | ||
| She's the online opinion editor over at the Great Washington Times and author of an amazing book. | ||
| You can go see it on Amazon right now, Socialists Don't Sleep. | ||
| Christians Must Rise or America Will Fall. | ||
| I want to bring in now Bishop Shines. | ||
| Bishop, first, your show on Real America's Voice. | ||
| What time is it and how can people get to it? | ||
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Saturdays, Steve, 1 o'clock today, Eastern Standard Time. | |
| I'll be on, and I have been, and I'm so sorry that we did a poor job jumping on your show prior to kind of help anchor and launch it, but already doing incredibly well and actually addressing subjects of this magnitude. | ||
| So again, today, 1 o'clock p.m. | ||
| Eastern Standard Time. | ||
| Watch America Shines. | ||
| I'm the host, Aubrey Shines. | ||
| Bishop Shines, you've been part of the Trump movement for a long time, and you get this kind of populism, economic nationalism. | ||
| Do you agree, are we too over the top in the name of our special? | ||
| Is the real target of the secular left, when you cut through all the insurrectionists and all the stuff they're throwing out there now, is the real target Christianity? | ||
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Always has been, Steve. | |
| And I love that you had Andrew on. | ||
| It's so excellent. | ||
| I'm going to make sure that just vast amounts of individuals that are not familiar with this, they will hear about him. | ||
| Thank you, my friend, for bringing him, as well as my buddy Spiro. | ||
| I've known Spiro for years. | ||
| Excellent show the other day. | ||
| Let me tell you why they're on, and I think Americans forget this part, Steve. | ||
| When Christians were faced with this in America, in the Deep South, pre-civil rights, when we won this battle, we were fighting against the same concept. | ||
| Of these ideologues, the Democratic Party, that was trying to shut down Christianity. | ||
| Let me tell you the power of your show, and especially your guests. | ||
| How did Christians do it? | ||
| Do you really think that the Southern Democrats all of a sudden had this great awakening, and they thought, oh my god, we're treating these black people with these atrocious ideological bents? | ||
| No! | ||
| It's when Christians united and said, you know what, we're not going to ride your buses anymore. | ||
| We're gonna unite, we'd rather walk, ride our bicycles, get rides from each other, is when they stop going to their counters to eat, since I can't eat in the front door, we built our own. | ||
| They didn't just do it there, Steve, they did it with hospitals, schools, and if you study pre-civil rights era, you'll find out that during that time, these were not, by the way, a group of black people that hated America, they were Christians. | ||
| And they realized that there was such power in the economic side of what they were doing, that if they didn't do it, the system would continue to destroy the lives of poor white and black people in this America. | ||
| And so what we're doing now, and what Andrew and others are talking about, is something that has been done in this nation since its inception when we began to fight back. | ||
| This idea of globalism, or call it what you will, it's all the same thing. | ||
| And we're seeing it basically echoed in one particular party. | ||
| And we cannot help that that is a fact. | ||
| It's just a fact. | ||
| So if we don't come together, black and white alike, Christian, those who believe in this Judeo-Christian ethos, as Rabbi said the other day, Then we'll lose our nation. | ||
| So when you ask the question, are we underplaying it? | ||
| No. | ||
| I think we need to play this and amplify this, Steve, a bit louder. | ||
| Bishop, we've got about two minutes. | ||
| I'd like to know, what would you recommend? | ||
| The power of this audience is they're action-oriented. | ||
| What would you recommend for this audience today? | ||
| For them not just to think about, but to act upon in this fight to make sure that we don't allow the secular left to destroy Christianity. | ||
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We've got to get engaged. | |
| We've got to speak. | ||
| These are the type of topics, Stephen, that I'm able to share with congregants of 20 different ethnic groups every single Sunday down here in Tampa. | ||
| We just can't have this little, small, little rinky-dink kind of a message and not deal with these cultural issues. | ||
| These are the type of issues that the Apostles and the Prophets of Old, both Old and New Testament, they address these cultural issues and these ideas all along. | ||
| We must come together. | ||
| And I'm not talking about just Stephen Ward. | ||
| It's necessary now that I reach out to Andrew. | ||
| It's necessary that I reach out to your guests. | ||
| It's necessary that we come together and we sit in a room, not just to talk. | ||
| We're all busy, actively trying to help restructure and shape this wonderful country that we live in. | ||
| But if we don't come together and we're so marginalized, we're not going to have it. | ||
| So, what's the real answer? | ||
| Collaboration. | ||
| What's the real answer? | ||
| Us coming together, finding this community, understanding that economics play, and have always played, a massive role in shaping America. | ||
| We need the opponents to the Facebooks, to the Googles. | ||
| We've already been shut down. | ||
| We are already censored. | ||
| Their algorithms are already against us. | ||
| So what? | ||
| Let's build our own. | ||
| Let's put in our own thousand dollars here. | ||
| Look, there's 80 million, my friend, of us out here that get this. | ||
| This is why we voted the way we voted before it was stolen. | ||
| We come together. | ||
| We don't have to throw stones at them. | ||
| Only thing we have to do is what most of us understand. | ||
| Support each other and we'll break their system. | ||
| That is something that we all have power, my friend, to do. | ||
| In 15 seconds, Bishop, how do people get to the show today? | ||
| Stay on Real America's Voice. | ||
| How do they get to you on social media? | ||
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Easy. | |
| Just type in my name, AubreyShines.com. | ||
| AubreyShines.com, and I think that they'll really, really enjoy what they're hearing. | ||
| We're talking the same things, my friend. | ||
| 1 p.m. | ||
| today on this network, Bishop Shines. | ||
| Make sure you're there for the show. | ||
| Bishop, thank you so much. | ||
| Honored to have you on. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We'll return with Pastor Vega. | ||
| We've got Cheryl Chumley from the Washington Times. | ||
| We've got Jason Jones, the prolific filmmaker. | ||
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We've got Christians from China. | |
| He's doing a cover of the great Johnny Cash song, the Johnny Cash song being When the Man Comes Around, which is about, it's based upon, it's the writings from the Book of Revelation. | ||
| That's Beast and the Oldies. | ||
| Make sure you go to YouTube, you can go to his site. | ||
| Extraordinary, extraordinary talent and a great cover, great rendition of that song. | ||
| We use that song as the opening credits for the film I made with Phil Robertson about evangelical Christians in the modern world called The Torchbearers. | ||
| I want to turn now to Atlanta, Georgia, to Pastor Vega from the ARC Church, that's the Awakening and Reformation Center Church in Atlanta, Georgia. | ||
| So Pastor Vega, you've heard the title of our show, Christianity, The Real Target of the Secular Left. | ||
| Do you think, you run a church that's predicated upon the awakening, do you think America is actually going through, or Christians are going through a great awakening here now in the United States? | ||
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I do believe so, and I believe that there's been an intentional, strategic targeting of religious discrimination because I believe the secular left's agenda realizes that the passion of patriotism is very much entwined in religious liberty in our First and Second Amendment and the values that have been ensconced in our nation. | |
| And I believe, just like Thomas Paine said, that a patriot's blood is what has really been the life source of the religious liberties that we've seen and the ethos of our nation. | ||
| So I believe they understand that if we do not try to utilize theology or to try to bring in some discussion here to confuse Christians and turn them against each other, to be able to demoralize this grassroots movement of patriotism, not only in awakening spiritually, but in awakening of civic engagement and responsibility to protect and love the nation that we believe God has assigned us to, they're being very strategic to try | ||
| to use religious manipulation for discrimination and bigotry so that Christians turn to one another and devour each other with the same cultural Marxism that we're seeing where they're trying to turn black and white against each other. | ||
| Now they're trying to use a geopolitical religious maneuver to try to turn Christians against one another simply for being patriots. | ||
| Now, how's that? | ||
| Walk us through that. | ||
| How are they trying to turn Christians against each other so the fight is between Christian and Christian? | ||
| How do you see that playing out, and how do you see the hand of the secular left in back of that? | ||
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Well, if you just look historically, you know, for your religious audience, me being a pastor, the scriptures actually say in Ecclesiastes 3, when that which has been is that which shall be, and actually it literally means history often repeats itself. | |
| When you look in the French Revolution, when you look in the different totalitarian regimes and governments, it wasn't just rich versus poor, but there was an intentional targeting and an attack toward religious liberties that became the bedrock of people feeling they had a right to their faith, to pray and to believe. | ||
| And so even in the ancient Roman Empire, there was an intentional strategic misinformation and an egregious lie that spread through Rome that Christians were the cause of the moral erosion and the economic collapse of Rome. | ||
| And that was often used to then start putting Christians in coliseums. | ||
| They were speared and pulled and used as human torches to light what is known as the Appian Way. | ||
| And so unfortunately we see in world empires and history That we see that there's often, unfortunately, a direct assault against religious liberty because it demoralizes the people's belief that there is a God who will intervene. | ||
| And when we're talking about globalism, we're talking about people who want to take the seat of God, and they want to be the epicenter of influence, and they don't want to compete. | ||
| With people believing that there is a just, benevolent, higher being and a creator who is just and who actually influences morality and worldviews. | ||
| So I believe the left truly is taking a play out of communism, out of the brown shirt revolutions you see even in the Nazi Party. | ||
| You see the intentional religious propagandist manipulation of Christians and clergy and churches. | ||
| To try to either if you're not going to be on our side, then we are going to use propaganda. | ||
| We're going to use policy. | ||
| We're going to do whatever we have to do to be able to place you in this right wing extremist box that has been so dangerous. | ||
| And I believe that's exactly what they're trying to do. | ||
| They use that type of insidious and incendiary language with the Capitol riots, 1.5 million people protesting peacefully. | ||
| And because a handful of a hundred or so or even more, which was terrible, decided to assault and do certain things to the Capitol. | ||
| Now they want to typecast the entire protest as a movement of Christians. | ||
| But if we were to dare to say anything about any Islamic approaches theologically that might be dangerous, then we are Islamophobic. | ||
| I believe we're watching the rise of Christophobia. | ||
| What do you mean Christophobia? | ||
| Because what the secular left will say, look, Pastor Vega and Bishop Shines and Cheryl Chumley and Andrew Torbaugh, they're just the vanguard of a Christian Taliban. | ||
| So what they're going to do, what they want to do is have a rigid form of Christianity take over this country where they're basically, you know, it's a version of Handmaid's Tale, right? | ||
| You can see this how they played out in the media, that Vega comes across as a nice guy, he's very well educated, very well spoken, very smart, great communicator, but behind him is really this radical Christian agenda of Christian nationalism, which is to make everybody comport to a rigid form of, you know, of Christianity. | ||
| And so you're essentially the happy face on what is really a Taliban-like mentality that is in back view. | ||
| What's your response to that? | ||
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Well, I think that's completely erroneous because if anybody has any semblance of a a grasp of American history are independent. | |
| It's no coincidence that. | ||
| American exceptionalism is a reality because in our 240 plus year existence as the youngest superpower nation to ever rise among the table of nations, we're only one of two particular nations that established its law codes and its credos on a Judeo-Christian value. | ||
| And I don't think it's coincidental that we have been able to rise economically, militaristically, societally, because there is a Christian influence on the Declaration of Independence, on the certain ethos, even the rights and the freedoms that all faiths are afforded. And I believe it's even incendiary and disrespectful to think that Christianity is the source of division and destruction when actually Christianity and its influence on our nation has created a beacon and even a | ||
| harbor all the way from Ellis Island to the formation of our nation where we've opened our arms to every ethnicity and every color. | ||
| And because of leaders, many who were Christian influenced in It calls them to open their arms and their ideologies to the notion of equality and including people even of other faiths. | ||
| We don't impose Christianity, but we also don't want to feel that we are completely targeted and attacked simply because of who we vote for or particular values and interests that we would like to see in policies and in government. | ||
| And that's done in the black, white, Catholic, Islamic community, and to specifically target Christians. | ||
| as being some right-wing extremists that are responsible for destruction is no different than their remarks of saying that we can't target all Muslims because of the attacks of a few. | ||
| So we see this as completely mendacious, as complete duplicity, and it is a political tactic for religious discrimination. | ||
| Pastor Vega, how do people get more access to you in the Ark Church down in Atlanta? | ||
| How do they find out more about you on social media? | ||
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How can they basically follow you? | |
| Well, they can look up my name, Francisco Vega, on social media, or Frankie R. Vega. | ||
| Our church is arccitychurch.org, and we're a room full of Christian patriots who don't embrace, you know, worshiping our nation above God. | ||
| We just believe if we really love God, we should not only love the people here, but love the country that He assigned us to and civically be responsible. | ||
| So they can reach us there at arkcitychurch.org. | ||
| My personal website for invites or anything is frankievega.org. | ||
| Pastor Vega, thank you so much for taking time away today. | ||
| Join us. | ||
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Thank you, sir. | |
| I appreciate it, and you're doing an excellent job, sir. | ||
| Thank you, Pastor Vega, I appreciate it. | ||
| Just a laboring oar here. | ||
| OK, we're going to get back to Cheryl Chumley, the editor from the Washington Times, online op-ed editor and author of the book, Socialists Don't Sleep. | ||
| But I want to go first, I want to bring in Jason Jones, an old friend of Andrew Breitbart and the Breitbart operation for many, many years and a prolific filmmaker. | ||
| Jason, real quickly, tell us about you've got a new film coming out that everybody should see. | ||
| This is the timing of this film. | ||
| Could not be better on this discussion we're having about the real enemy that the secular left sees is not the insurrectionists, is not the traitors as they call them, is not the domestic terrorists. | ||
| They think this is all predicated upon this radical version of Christianity that they basically say is the Christian Taliban. | ||
| Talk about the new film that you've got coming out, or it's already out. | ||
| I think it came out last week. | ||
| Yes, Steve. | ||
| Thanks for having us on. | ||
| It is out right now. | ||
| It's anywhere you download your films. | ||
| It is there. | ||
| Amazon, Redbox, YouTube. | ||
| It's available. | ||
| It stars Benjamin Watson, the New England Patriots. | ||
| We saw two years out that our country was being ripped apart. | ||
| The title of the film is Divided Hearts of America. | ||
| You know, the radical left The reason why they target Christians is because the radical left is a leper-creating machine. | ||
| It creates lepers and destroys lepers. | ||
| It shuns people. | ||
| The gospel has some annoying dogmas. | ||
| First of all, every human being is made in the image of God and has an incomparable dignity. | ||
| And from that, we are compelled to stand with those who are shunned, stand with those who are outcast. | ||
| The island of misfit toys, as you call us and Andrew would call us, has a lot of folks. | ||
| And this leper-creating machine can't tolerate Christians who still, not like mainline Protestants, not like our bishops, I'm Catholic, who have fled from the vulnerable. | ||
| They cannot stand that there exists in this country today those of us who have this nasty habit of standing with anyone who they've shunned. | ||
| I was actually kicked off of Facebook for making a video defending Ellen DeGeneres when they targeted her for being shunny. | ||
| They banned me for a month. | ||
| Our film, Divided Hearts of America, is Benjamin Watson, Super Bowl champion from New England Patriots, and he seeks to discover the source of the division in this country. | ||
| And he discovers that it's really grounded in those three great denials of our founding principle, which is the only source of unity we can possibly have outside of totalitarianism, that which is embedded in the Declaration of Independence, that we have an inviolable dignity. | ||
| Those three brutal denials were slavery, segregation, and then Roe v. Wade, which is bizarrely rooted in the 14th Amendment, is the third brutal denial that is actually rooted in those first two. | ||
| And if we want to be unified as a country, we have to assent for the first time without scandal to the truth of the human person that our country was founded in. | ||
| And we as Christians especially should stand with those who are shunned. | ||
| I spoke at the January 5th event leading up to the 6th at the Capitol. | ||
| And what struck me was the really bizarre, and I hate using this word, diversity of the folks that were on that stage. | ||
| And when I read the reports, what was going on there, it has nothing to do with the reality of the event that took place. | ||
| And I wish everyone could have seen who was there. | ||
| And it was really the Island of Misfit Toys. | ||
| It was people. | ||
| I saw seas of South Vietnam flags. | ||
| I saw flags of East Turkestan. | ||
| I saw Latinos. | ||
| I saw more. | ||
| I saw like a dozen rainbow flags with Trump emblazoned on it. | ||
| I saw one Confederate flag. | ||
| Which was a bit shocking for me as a northerner. | ||
| But they don't cover the truth about who was there. | ||
| People abandoned by the neoliberal elite who they call lepers. | ||
| And I'll stand with any leper. | ||
| Show me a leper, I'm there. | ||
| Jason, we got about 30 seconds. | ||
| How do people get to the film, Divided Hearts of America? | ||
| You gotta watch it. | ||
| How do people get to the movie? | ||
| You can go to movie2movement.com and you can click through there and it'll take you to the different places where you can buy the film or wherever on your remote control, wherever you and your family download films. | ||
| And I tell you what, I've worked on over 50 films, Steve. | ||
| To me, by God's grace, the timing, COVID, all the obstacles, now it is out. | ||
| And it's perfect timing. | ||
| The secret to unite this country is in Divided Hearts of America. | ||
| We've got to bounce. | ||
| Jason Jones, one of the most prolific Christian filmmakers. | ||
| Divided Hearts of America. | ||
| Go to it today. | ||
| Go to the website. | ||
| Go to movieinamovement.com. | ||
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We'll be back in a second with She's Fear of Christmas. | |
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| That is Beast Rodriguez on his version of Johnny Cash's I think Johnny Cash's greatest song, When the Man Comes Around, and that is his cover of that song. | ||
| And we're going to use that as the out music, too. | ||
| Go to Beast Rodriguez. | ||
| I think Beasting the Oldies. | ||
| Just an incredible, incredible voice, incredible talent. | ||
| Cheryl Chumley, this is an action-oriented audience. | ||
| They're already lighting up the live chat and hashtag War on Pandemic. | ||
| What's your recommendation? | ||
| You're somebody who's been on this for a long time. | ||
| You've got this amazing book, Socialists Don't Sleep, Christians Must Rise, or America I put that in the same category with Rabbi Spiro's pushback about retaining and securing and reclaiming the American ethos of the Judeo-Christian doctrine. | ||
| So what is the action steps that our audience can take, ma'am? | ||
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Right. | |
| Thank you for that. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| It's basically prayer and action, right? | ||
| Put your faith in God first, and as you mentioned earlier in your show, On Facebook, I have a page called The 8 O'Clock Club, and it's where people can gather and give a like to, a shout out, and join in with like-minded, patriotic Americans in praying specifically for our country. | ||
| Save our country from socialism. | ||
| 8 o'clock in the morning, 8 o'clock at night, shout out a quick prayer and just join with untold numbers of other Americans just desperate to bring God back in charge of this nation. | ||
| As far as other actionable steps, I favor Christians flooding the local political system right now. | ||
| Run for your local school boards. | ||
| Enter the public school systems as teachers and administrators. | ||
| Become the local Board of Supervisors members, the City Council members, because this first and foremost is where the secularism is going to hit your backyard, and it's going to hit hard. | ||
| You only need to look at the public school systems to see how the next generation is being trained to hate America, think Christianity and Judeo-Christian principles are inherently racist, and embrace in place the socialist, collectivist, globalist agenda. | ||
| So we need to hit hard at the local levels. | ||
| And third, if you're a Christian, honestly, one of the most powerful things you can do, if you're a Christian with a dark past, share that story. | ||
| Because I think there's a lot of ideas in the secular community that Christians are some sort of alien-type people, that they're born into these strange families, and they're raised in the ways of God. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| The most powerful Christian voices are those who have overcome addictions, Overcome alcoholism, overcome drug use, lived on the streets. | ||
| We need to hear more of those stories because that's how you win people over. | ||
| Not by preaching, but by grabbing them by the heart and showing that, yes, even you who have walked in darkness, there's a place for you in Jesus's world. | ||
| And so that's how you grab the nation. | ||
| That's how you grab Christians back. | ||
| And that's how you basically, for the long term, set in store A nation where we can run by Judeo-Christian principles and not big government. | ||
| I want everybody also to go to the Precinct Project, to become a precinct committeeman for the Republican Party. | ||
| But I've got to end, we have to end on the head of the Globalist Project are the Chinese Communist Party and President Xi. | ||
| He thinks he's king of the world now because of the calculating of the Biden administration. | ||
| I want to bring in TC, a devout Christian. | ||
| Part of the whistleblower movement in the new federal state of China. | ||
| There's an article in the British paper I think the Express that says there's 300 million are becoming 300 million underground Evangelical Christians and traditional Catholics in China and that this is Xi's biggest fear. | ||
| It's not the United States It's not the United States military. | ||
| It's not NATO. | ||
| It's not the City of London or Wall Street, they're partners. | ||
| His biggest single fear is Christianity. | ||
| TC, you've got a couple of minutes. | ||
| Explain that to this American audience. | ||
| Okay, we have a technical problem. | ||
| Didn't get to TC. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| I tell you what, we'll do that on Monday. | ||
| We had TC, gosh, had this so set up to finish with a bang. | ||
| Cheryl, hang with me. | ||
| There's a, that's okay guys, we're trying. | ||
| TC's actually calling from a remote location. | ||
| We'll do this on Monday. | ||
| Understand that in this globalist project, the party of Davos, Xi, right, that President Xi, his biggest single fear, as outlined in this British paper, is evangelical Christianity. | ||
| The prairie fire that can spread by the gospel of the living Christ is the single biggest fear of the biggest dictator on earth. | ||
| It's not the American military, as great as we are, and I spent my youth out in the South China Sea on a destroyer. | ||
| It ain't that. | ||
| It's not the American economy. | ||
| It's not Wall Street. | ||
| It's not the corporations. | ||
| It's not cutting them off. | ||
| It's not taking down their firewall. | ||
| His biggest fear, day in and day out, is the spread of Christianity in China. | ||
| And remember, it was the persecuted church in Rome, the persecuted church of the first century, that flourished. | ||
| And this is what you're going to see in the 21st century, and this is why we continue to go back and work with the Lao Baizhang, old hundred names of the slaves in China. | ||
| The leadership of Christianity in the 21st century is going to come through the freedom of the Chinese people, and you're going to see the Chinese Christians take a leadership role in the global spread of Christianity. | ||
| Cheryl, I want to thank you. | ||
| I want to thank you for the book. | ||
| Once again, we've got about a minute. | ||
| I want you to talk about the 8 O'Clock Club. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| This is very profound. | ||
| You pray one minute at 8 a.m. | ||
| in the morning and one minute for your nation at 8 p.m. | ||
| at night. | ||
| Walk through how they get there. | ||
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Thank you, Steve. | |
| Just go to Facebook and type in the 8 O'Clock Club, and it's that 8 with the number, and just give a like or join onto the page. | ||
| Seriously, just join in prayer. | ||
| Specific prayer to save our country from socialism, from collectivists, from globalists. | ||
| And, you know, do it just twice a day. | ||
| 8 a.m., 8 p.m., wherever you are. | ||
| A few seconds, five minutes, an hour. | ||
| And do it for years to come, because social media boots conservatives and Christians daily, but, you know, God can't be booted from prayer groups, and this is what we need in this nation. | ||
| Okay, the book is Socialists Don't Sleep. | ||
| It's by Cheryl Chumley, editor of the Washington Times. | ||
| Cheryl, thank you very much for being our co-host. | ||
| We're going to take off, we're going to leave with the Book of Revelations, the great song from Johnny Cash, when the man comes around from Beast, Rodriguez. | ||
| Bishop shines at 1 o'clock and we'll see you back here live at 10 a.m. | ||
| on Monday morning. | ||
| Until then, great weekend. | ||
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I'll treat it all the same. | |
| There'll be a golden ladder reaching there When the man comes around. | ||
| The hairs on your arm will stand up At the terror in each tip and in each top Will you partake of that last stuffard cup? | ||
| Oh Or disappear into the potter's rug? |
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