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Episode 711 - It's All Converging (w/ Jack Posobiec, Rudy Giuliani)Episode 711 - It's All Converging (w/ Jack Posobiec, Rudy Giuliani)
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steve bannon
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
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The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
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We have to prepare for the worst, always.
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Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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steve bannon
Okay, live from the nation's capital, you're in the War Room.
It's still an occupied capital.
We're going to have Jack Posobiec-Rahim Ghassan break it all down about the New York Times breaking story about intel reports, muddled intel reports, before January 6.
And the question still needs to be asked, why are 7,000 National Guard, up-armored National Guard, still in the nation's capital?
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Time Magazine, the cover story yesterday, exploded after we covered it for almost two hours.
The Great One, Mark Levin, had Raheem Kassam on.
We're going to break that down later in the show.
A terrific interview from The Great One, who has very few guests.
And Mark Levin really understood what was going on, and it was a fantastic interview, Raheem.
We're going to play that down, and we're going to deconstruct it.
We've got Mike Lindell will be on at the end of the show.
Huge, we're going to do an hour today With brother Dan Schultz out in Arizona to talk through how you individually in this audience take over the Republican Party by becoming a precinct committeeman.
It has to be done.
400,000 billets need to be filled and this audience is going to fill them.
We're gonna get Dan for a half an hour today and then a half an hour on Monday It's very important and the power of this audience last stands Michael Walsh came back was back on last night I think he went up 4,000 slots in Amazon and he told me last night and I think in military history and strategy He's now number one and he replaced Sun Tzu, which is not too shabby the book last stands Michael Walsh Rahim, thank you for actually being in studio.
raheem kassam
It's been so rare to see you on Saturdays It's been a long time coming for me to be here on a weekend, and it's been a long time coming for somebody to beat Sun Tzu.
Exactly.
A thousand years.
steve bannon
Raheem's fiancé has made sure he's now working non-stop on his great podcast, one of the top podcasts in the nation.
The podcast is on fire.
As is our next guest, Rudy Giuliani.
Mayor, your podcast is absolutely brilliant.
I know you put out one last night about being, you know, maybe forming a new Tea Party.
We got Dan Schultz on today to say, hey, maybe we take over the Republican Party first.
I'll get to that in a minute.
But I wanted to ask you.
You've got the great one, Mark Levin, that interviewed Raheem last night, but the other great one, Lou Dobbs, that has been preaching the gospel of economic nationalism, I think for 40 some years on CNN and then on Fox and Fox Business, summarily dismissed last night by Fox.
And here's what, so people understand, he's the number one rated show on Fox Business and is competitive With the ratings over at Fox News and, you know, he's a powerful voice even before President Trump.
I mean, President Trump's the first to say, hey, look, I watched Lou Dobbs for 20, 30 years from a First Amendment perspective.
And by the way, I think Fox has said, hey, he's still on the payroll.
We're holding to his contract.
But, you know, an unnamed source said you'll never see him on Fox again, even as a contributor.
Mayor Giuliani, I know that you for years were Roger Ailes' lawyer for First Amendment and for defamation and all that.
What is going on here with Lou Dobbs getting the hook?
rudy giuliani
Well, let's take that separately.
Lou Dobbs is entitled to, whenever he's elected to retire, a great send-off.
I mean, he's one of the greats of broadcasting.
Probably one of the people who pioneered business broadcasting.
I think Maria Bartiromo, many other people would tell you that.
And to have to do it this way is just plain mean.
The man is entitled to a wonderful send off.
And if he wanted to cut down a little, let him cut down a little, let him do some specials.
This has to be because, you know, he's been he's violating the censorship put out by the New Stasi, where you can't talk about stolen elections and you can't talk about, oh, I can't mention that company.
Oh, my goodness.
I may get arrested.
You know, pretty soon they're going to come visit your homes and not just fire you, but put you in prison for a couple of months if you say anything about the stolen election.
What they're trying to do, and it's a definite conspiracy, is they want to bury this.
They want to change history.
They want to annihilate history.
So when we look back on this 20 years from now, it'll be Joe Biden won, he unified the country, and that sore loser Trump tried to create a revolution and it didn't work.
That's the history they want to write.
Totally false.
steve bannon
Okay, but in that regard, and by the way, people already should understand, Lou Dobbs, they announced that, hey, after Friday, Lou Dobbs is gone.
He'll never return.
It wasn't like a big send-off or six months from now and everything.
That's what Rudy's talking about.
But I want to go, you mentioned this, Time Magazine You know, Molly Ball, who's from the Atlantic, I think she was a Politico at one time, great reporter, wrote this amazing piece that Mark Levin interviewed Rahim on, we'll get to, but she calls it the secret history of the 2020 election, to save the 2020 election.
I would say to steal it, but it's not secret anymore.
It's up in your face and they're bragging about it, Rudy.
It went off to wait 10 years about how they're going to rewrite history.
They actually in real time rewrote history and now they're up in your grill, and particularly your grill, Mr. Rudy Giuliani.
rudy giuliani
The reality is they're going to have a hard time doing that.
They're going to have a hard time.
They're going to have a hard time doing it because there's physical evidence.
steve bannon
A hard time doing it.
Last time I looked, Donald Trump's in Mar-a-Lago and you're in your apartment in New York.
And a guy named Joe Biden is having breakfast this morning at 1600.
No, excuse me, he's in Wilmington.
He took Air Force One and flew the 15 minutes back to Wilmington.
So how are they going to have a tough time doing it?
rudy giuliani
Because this isn't like 100 years ago, 200 years ago.
When you didn't have evidence that remained behind.
There are hundreds of hours of tapes that demonstrate it.
There are computer programs that have been kept.
There are witnesses whose testimony has been memorialized.
And it'll be much like the Kennedy assassination.
Of course, you know, the Kennedy assassination had an official version.
And now nobody believes it.
They don't know what they believe, but they don't believe that.
This will be worse.
steve bannon
Okay.
I don't even want to ask where the grassy knoll is here, but I have to go to... Okay, given that...
Given that, next week starts a trial about this very topic.
In fact, the New York Times lays out, End Time Magazine, New York Times lays out the 77 days, the 77 days to, right here, and you're a big star of this, the 77 days, Trump's campaign to subvert the election.
For our podcast audience, I'm holding up the front page of the New York Times from last Monday.
So, they've laid it out.
You can see in their case they're going to sit there and make a very emotional appeal to this.
You've got a venue next week.
Rudy, are you down there arguing this in the well of the Senate?
Is this going to get a fair hearing?
Let's say stipulate for purposes of this interview all that you say about the evidence is true.
Where is it going to be next week?
rudy giuliani
Well, I don't know.
I'm not arguing the case.
It was thought that I might be a witness, but I'm not going to be a witness, so I could argue the case.
And, uh, but I mean, my approach, my approach would be, I think, different.
My approach would be to try the entire case, to try the entire defense.
This is the, one of the better times for historical purposes to get it on the record.
I also think if anyone watched the, um, the, uh, the thing that Mike did last night, Mike Lindell, people are shocked to find out what happened because they've been, they've been lied to so much.
When people see the video of what happened in Georgia, they're going to say, oh my goodness, that really happened?
You mean it's really true?
unidentified
Because you can see the Freeman women doing it.
steve bannon
Hang on.
Let me get to Mike Lindell.
We're going to have Mike Lindell on.
We're bookending this.
Rudy's going to start the show and Mike Lindell's going to end the show back at 11.30.
I like that.
It's kind of symmetrical, right?
But Rudy, before I get to Lindell, I want to go back to the trial.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
The secret history, and by the way, there are no coincidences, that was dropped yesterday, or Thursday night, in the lead up to the Sunday shows and all the thing for the trial next week, on purpose.
The new owner from Salesforce, that guy's a smart guy, he's got smart people running, Molly Ball is a great reporter, okay?
They're totally on the left, but they framed the narrative.
He's the one that did, right after the election, the Great Reset, right?
That cover story that laid it all out.
These people are not shy.
They're just, they're in your grill.
How can, I'm just asking a question here, Rudy.
How can we have the secret history, and that's now in the live chat, you can see, the secret history as laid out by Time Magazine, Molly Ball, and the establishment's bragging about it.
Bragging about how they did this, and the Biden campaign's never mentioned.
Basically, the Biden campaign's hapless.
They had to do this.
How could you have that come out on Friday and not answer that?
Not put that into evidence next week and have a team, whether it's you or others, argue the counter to that?
Exactly, because it's the big lie versus the big steal.
They lay it out.
How could you possibly have this out and not answer that?
rudy giuliani
Well, I mean, lawyers have different opinions about how to try cases.
My view would be that would be a major part of the defense.
The defense would be the five states, six states, in which you would prove that he won those states.
Because I think people watching Lyndell last night could see, even if he didn't get to every single state, there's more than enough votes to switch the result in each one of those states.
And you don't even have to get to the machines.
I mean, before you even start talking about those Those machines.
You've got 65,000 underage people in Georgia who voted.
steve bannon
Okay.
Hang on.
Stop.
I want to go right there.
Hang on.
There's a guy that's a reporter that says, and he specifically pulls out.
He says this charge of 66,000 and he says, Rudy says it all the time.
There's only two.
So the bid and the ask is 66,002.
How do you get to your, how do you get to your number?
rudy giuliani
That's the same, those were done by an independent group who went out and did the survey.
This is the same guy that said there were only two dead people.
And of course we had 2,000 names of dead people that died in 2020.
So what you're listening to are liars.
It turns out ultimately there are 10,000 dead people in Georgia.
And you might remember the Secretary of State told the President there were only two dead people that voted.
So we produced a picture of a thousand dead people.
steve bannon
But he is the Republican Secretary of State of Georgia, right?
rudy giuliani
What does that make him?
Republicans can be as crooked as Democrats.
steve bannon
Okay, okay, okay.
Let me ask you, this is for the opposition that's taking notes here at Media Matters.
This is why I think, and this is why I've been, I never said during the whole time of this thing, you've got to flip it to Trump.
You have to get in a state assembly an actual hearing so Rudy can present his stuff and then have people tear it apart.
This is what I want next week.
What I want next week is a prosecution to sit there and go, everything Rudy Giuliani is saying is a lie.
All his numbers are screwed up.
Navarro doesn't know what he's talking about.
This is all, Cortez is crazy.
Bannon and these guys are nutcases.
This is wrong.
It's not 66,000.
It's two.
And here's how you get to two.
And Rudy's going to sit there and go, no, here's how you get to 66,000.
That's why the American advocacy.
Yes, sir.
rudy giuliani
I call the Secretary of State and I do to him.
What I did to a congressman when I was 28 years old and I got him to plead guilty on the witness stand.
I'd let him look at the picture of all 1,000 people that died that year that he seems to have forgotten when he said it was only two.
And I'd ask him, how do you think their family felt when you decided they didn't die?
unidentified
I mean, what a horrible you've been.
steve bannon
Let's take a quick break and we're going to bring back America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani, next.
unidentified
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steve bannon
Okay, the big lie versus the big steal.
Time Magazine, Molly Ball, the CEO, the owner, they're up in your grill.
Okay, up in your grill.
They call it a cabal in there.
Hey, and they said, if this came out of Bandit in the War Room, guys, you'd think it was the paranoid, fringe element of the fever swamp of the right.
In fact, I think New York Times has a great piece, because you've got to look at the opposition side, they actually call Lindell's film a fever dream.
The fever dream of Mike Lindell.
So, Rudy, I want to go back.
Are we ever going to get this sorted?
If one side's doing magazine articles and the other's doing documentaries, don't we have to be in a place, a forcing function, in a place where we can adjudicate this?
Isn't the trial next week the place to do it?
Let the prosecution come out and say, these guys are all fantasists, Rudy Giuliani has no idea what he's doing, he's just defaming people, it's all crap, and the Secretary of State from Arizona to Georgia Republicans tell you that, and then you present your receipts!
You've done this for your entire life.
You're one of the greatest prosecutors in the history of the nation.
You've put more bad guys away.
You put the Mafia away.
You broke the five families.
You put the Wall Street Mafia away.
You're legendary.
unidentified
Isn't this the way to do it?
100%.
rudy giuliani
I mean, I didn't do that by not having evidence, Steve.
I didn't do that.
I didn't get up and prosecute Fat Tony Salerno.
And when I was asked, do you have evidence that he ordered four murders?
I said, oh, well, no, I don't really have that.
Instead, I had witnesses, tapes, tape recordings.
I have all that here and more.
But I haven't had the opportunity to present it because there's been this... Hold on, hang on.
steve bannon
Hang on for a second.
I got to make sure because the left's going to be all over you today.
You're telling me, I just want to make sure I got this straight.
You're saying now to a global audience, you have more evidence in the stealing of this election than you had in putting away the five families and in fact... 100%!
What, Big Tony?
rudy giuliani
Yeah, I never had a tape as good as the one in Atlanta.
And then the second tape, when they're working with the hard drives and fixing the machines, or the testimony with regard to the people who voted who were dead.
I mean, that's pretty hard to walk away from.
I mean, we went and got the pictures of the dead people because the Secretary of State had lied so badly and said there were only two.
And we produced 800 in just that year.
In other words, People who died in 2020 voted after they died.
800 of them just in 2020.
So, no, the evidence will be massive.
Then, of course, what I did best as a prosecutor is cross-examine.
And if I could get them on the witness stand, this case would be over because they have a tendency to just lie like the Secretary of State did.
Oh, there were only two.
Then you put a thousand pictures in front of them and require them to go through all thousand.
The judge eventually says, oh, it's not necessary.
The whole thing with the underage kids, you know why he says only two?
Because the underage kids didn't vote.
That's stupid.
They didn't vote.
They were used, their identities were used for phony votes.
And there'll be a witness in Georgia who explains how that was done.
A very nice lady who will explain how it was done.
They just went to the DMV files and they didn't bother to look at the ages.
steve bannon
Look, if we don't get a chance next week, we'll come back and we're going to figure out how to do this.
It gets presented in an organized method.
Mayor, one last thing, and I know this came up on your WABC show, the great WABC, the best talk radio network station in the country.
So Mike Lindell makes this film, and we're going to get to the thing of the factual basis of it and the non-factual basis of it later with Lindell.
But he puts a very subtle title on it, Absolute Proof.
Absolute Proof.
Not kinda, here's what I found, Absolute Proof.
The Great Network of One America, and the Herrings are fantastic, and what they've done is fantastic, and Chanel Rihanna, and you got Christina Bob, and you got the great Jack Posobiec, so many young superstars over there, and they just do a fantastic job.
And if you look at their packages, they're so tightly produced.
They put, after the first screening, I think they put a thing that said, actually, this is absolute opinion of Mike Lindell's.
Essentially.
And in fact, that trends more than actually Lindell's thing, which I think Mike's going to come out today and say, hey, I think 20 million people have seen this so far.
But that starts trending because the left is like mocking this and laughing and belly laughing, etc.
Where does this all go?
You're Ailes' First Amendment guy.
Where is this all heading about the ability to actually present, you know, without being in a court of law, for news organizations to actually present things?
Where do you think the standard is and where do you think this is heading?
And what would you tell Roger Ailes if you were still his lawyer and he was still with us today?
rudy giuliani
I would say have the guts not to go with it.
They're not going to prove their case.
I mean, you've got a Times Against Sullivan defense to start with.
You're a newspaper organization.
You've got to prove actual malice.
Newspapers and television stations put guests on all the time.
They're not responsible for the truth of what the guest is saying, so long as it isn't obvious that he isn't telling the truth.
You have to know it's a lie, and you have to be malicious about it.
I mean, the case is actually quite brilliant, what the lawyers did here.
The lawyers were able to get a prior restraint, which you can't get under American law.
And they got it by intimidation.
They filed that big lawsuit against Sidney.
They put in what, $10 billion?
And then they walked into Fox and Fox put on people to rebut the story, took their reporters off.
They were all frightened.
They did a great job.
steve bannon
Okay, but we've got to bounce, but just one last thing.
The hard drive from hell, one of the reasons you go to the Post is Murdoch has got these tough lawyers, they thought that thing through, they put the hard drive from hell up and said, hey, bring it.
It's not Russian, different information, everything you know here, we checked it out, bring it.
And they powered through that and now we all know today it was all true, all accurate, the Bidens have not said anything in there's phony, the whole Russian thing is a complete farce of those intelligence officers like Brennan and these guys that outright lied, okay?
Number one.
So it's the same group of guys.
Yeah, they work at a different thing, but it's still the News Corp.
It's still the Murdoch hammers.
So you get a $2.7 billion suit and the next thing you know, Lou Dobbs, hey, Friday, you know, sorry, not sorry.
No more Lou Dobbs.
He evaporates.
So somehow the News Corp apparatus Don't you agree it's signaling, at least somehow, and maybe, hey, I'm just, I'm Schmendrick, but aren't they signaling, aren't they signaling, hey, we don't like this, the Dominion guys may be onto something because Lou Dobbins is now gone?
rudy giuliani
No, what they're signaling is what they've been signaling for a year.
They're moving further and further to the left.
And now, and now what's the difference?
Now you've got a president who's there.
They want to make sure they can suck up to him.
I mean, come on.
You know what Fox has been doing for the last year, year and a half?
There's a reason they've dropped below CNN and I think even MSNBC.
I don't have a conservative friend that doesn't call me and say, what is Fox doing?
What is Fox doing?
It's been going on for a year.
It's been going on for a year.
The better way to look at it is the same people who lied right through their teeth about the hard drives are the ones that are lying about the stolen election.
And for the same reason.
steve bannon
Interesting.
Okay, Mayor, we got to bounce, but I want to talk about the podcast.
The podcast is on fire.
Last night, your podcast was, in its common sense, Rudy Giuliani.
Your podcast tonight is very controversial.
We got Dan Schultz on today to kind of counter it, but you're saying you're putting out the possibility, let's start a new party.
Let's think about a new third party.
rudy giuliani
Not a new party.
The Tea Party wasn't a new party.
It was an adjunct to the Republican Party.
I'm one that doesn't want a new party.
I think we should take over the party of Lincoln and keep it.
But I think you need a separate movement as part of the party that focuses on the First Amendment and that focuses on the fair elections.
I think you can really inspire people more to join that than to join a political party that right now shows a lot of courage and a lot of cowardice.
And the Tea Party only enhanced the Republican Party, it didn't hurt it.
steve bannon
Yes, big victory.
rudy giuliani
I think it has the emotional draw That being a precinct captain just isn't going to have.
You're going to draw a different kind of person, too.
Precinct captain is going to be a hard working, but the people that come into the movement like, let's save free speech.
Let's save fair press.
I found in my career running U.S.
attorney's offices and the higher the goal, the better the people you get.
The more high minded the goal, the better.
You bring people into it, bring them into a crusade, you can take them down.
And I think if we focus in the next two years, and we're going to recreate a free press, free speech, and we're going to go back to having fair elections, they'll join this movement and they'll all be Republicans.
And we will do.
Remember the Tea Party helped us win in 2010.
Didn't have us lose.
We won because of the Tea Party in 2010.
So we got to think a little out of the box.
We got to think a little out of the box.
steve bannon
We gotta bounce.
The podcast is up.
Go to Common Sense.
Rudy Giuliani's Common Sense.
It's huge.
Also, you've got the show every day, I think, from 3 to 4 on WABC.
unidentified
Amazingly controversial.
steve bannon
10-11 with Dr. Maria Ryan, who's been so fantastic, and she broke huge news here about the Moderna trial for children that nobody signed up for.
We're going to get Dr. Ryan back next week.
Rudy, you're an American hero, you're a patriot, and you're not just a great man, you're a good man.
So, Rudy Giuliani, thank you so much for joining us this morning.
We're in a pandemic.
rudy giuliani
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Mayor Giuliani.
Rahim, I want to go back to something he said.
The arrogance and the... the audience has got to understand this.
They're now in your grill, right?
Is this Schubert's?
Is this the beginning that you can take them down because of their arrogance and their Schubert's?
raheem kassam
I think they've always had that.
The thing is, they're getting carried away with it because they've forgotten that actually details are going to start coming out.
We know from yesterday's New York Times, more details now about January 6th and the intelligence flubs that have happened there.
They're forgetting that actually over the course of time, details.
steve bannon
We're going to bring The voice of the Great One, Mark Levin, into the War Room after a commercial break.
It's this magnificent, and that's the only thing you can call it, interview with our co-host Raheem Kassam last night on Mark Levin's show.
We're going to do that.
We're going to get Jack Posobiec.
We've got the New York Times breaking story with their Pulitzer Prize guys.
The guys know the inside baseball in IC.
This information was given to them to run this one up the flagpole.
All in the War Room in just a second.
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mark levin
We'll be up next week and we'll be linking to many of the National Pulse articles.
Raheem Kassam and the gang there do a fantastic job.
We're talking about this Time Magazine piece, Trump is right, there was a conspiracy, well-funded cabal, powerful people, changing laws, steering media, and controlling information.
Now in this article it says the handshake was between business and labor.
One component of a vast cross-partisan campaign to protect the election.
Extraordinary shadow effort.
And as you point out, it wasn't to protect the election.
It's really to win the election by hook or by crook.
It also says here they admit an assortment of foundations contributed tens of millions in election administration funding.
The John Zuckerberg initiative chipped in $300 million.
You've written about this.
You've talked about this.
unidentified
But here's the killer right here.
mark levin
The racial justice uprising sparked by George Floyd's killing in May, this is from time as noted in your piece, was not primarily a political movement.
The organizers who helped lead it wanted to harness its momentum for the election without allowing it to be co-opted by politicians.
Many of those organizers were part of Podholzer's network, that's the AFL-CIO guy, from the activists in battleground states who partnered with the Democracy Defense Coalition to organizations with leading roles in the movement for black lives.
In other words, these rioters, these Marxist organizations were working with the Democrats and the Never Trumpers, correct?
raheem kassam
Sometimes, Mark, you can do all the digging in the world, but the best thing that can happen is that your opponents get ahead of their skis, get too big for their boots, feel like they need to brag, take credit, and that's exactly what's happened here.
All of those things you just read out are very clearly the consequence of somebody getting on the phone with Molly Ball, with Time Magazine, and attempting to claim credit and saying the quiet part out loud.
The quiet part of this was always supposed to be that Black Lives Matter was about black lives and wasn't about politics or partisanship or politicians.
Now, it just so happens, of course, that the politicians now suddenly don't want to have anything to do with Black Lives Matter.
I don't think Joe Biden has invited them into the White House yet.
unidentified
They're now complaining and bemoaning that fact.
raheem kassam
But it's very clear and it's euphemistic as well at the same time, Mark, because Time magazine will say, you know, it's coming together of business and labor.
Well, the U.S.
Chamber of Commerce doesn't represent ordinary business in the United States of America.
It represents big corporate interests.
And the AFL-CIO doesn't represent ordinary labour, they are the union fat cats, the union big wigs with big fancy steel and gold trimmed buildings a block away from the White House.
So, again, this comes down to not what we've typically understood as left versus right, but actually what we now understand more to be like the hyper-elites versus the rest of us.
You know, not the 1%, but the 0.01% versus everybody else.
And, you know, it's very clear.
Molly Ball gets into it in the article.
She talks about how these people leveraged their power, put together these multi-million dollar packs, these political action committees.
And their job is to heap pressure onto big tech, onto big media, and indeed get election rules and laws changed.
That's what Phil Klein and the Amistad Project and all those wonderful people there reported to us back in October of last year.
And we reported that story out, that Zuckerberg was plowing hundreds of millions of dollars.
And those dollars came with strings attached.
They went to public authorities around the country and said, hey, we will help you.
We're going to help you fund the changes in your elections that you know need to be made because of this COVID crisis.
But you have to do it by our rules.
You have to do it in a way that, hey, the signatures may not match, but you're going to count the ballots anyway.
The ballots may come in late, but you're going to count the ballots anyway.
The drop boxes are going to be in more frequent positions in streets where Democrats typically vote and less frequent in streets where Republicans vote.
And they got all of that.
What we've seen here and what we're learning from this article, things we suspected all along, but what we're now learning is about the corporatization of an American election.
mark levin
And it is, it's amazing how they expose themselves.
And you know what?
The rest of the media will ignore this.
They're probably very annoyed at Time Magazine for doing this.
Big tech is revealed here as we knew.
You know, we knew what they were doing, but they're revealed here, they buckle to the pressure of the left, and of course they're participating in what the left is doing.
There's no question about it, and they've gone beyond now, beyond the election, and then you see big media, the same thing, and they talk about changing the election laws in these states, and you know, if you bring that up now, you brought it up Ted Cruz, you brought it up Josh Hawley, you brought it up 140 Republicans in the House, it was there, it happened, we all saw it!
Oh, you must be inciting people.
You must be inciting an insurrection and so forth.
So they're probably still at it post-election, don't you think?
raheem kassam
They want this, I mean, in the article we call it changing American elections forever.
This was not a one-time shot or a one-time deal for these guys.
They intend for this to remain the case.
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But I'll tell you, you're absolutely right.
raheem kassam
The Brian Stelters of the world are going to be so angry at this piece because they've been screaming into their cameras for the last several months that anybody who's claimed anything even close To what Time Magazine reported.
Remember, the definition of conspiracy is to do harm.
The definition of cabal, we've been told for years, is underlying anti-Semitic tropes.
And this is what Time Magazine actually is admitting here, and those are the words that they are using.
So CNN will be mortified that they've done this reporting, but I'll tell you what it does help.
Is it helps in the upcoming Senate trial and every single seat in that room should have a copy of this article printed out and placed on the seats and every single senator should be waving a copy of this article because it lays out and you cannot you cannot allege that the President of the United States incited an insurrection under false pretenses Mark if the pretenses were true.
mark levin
Ben Sasse, Mitt Romney, Pat Toomey, the others, they owe an apology to this president.
They owe an apology to the Republican Party.
steve bannon
That is the great one.
Mark Levin, and I gotta tell you, that is a powerful, powerful interview with our co-host Raheem Kassam.
We're burning daylight.
We gotta go, but we're gonna put this out.
Everybody's gotta listen to this.
Levin nailed it.
Raheem hit his mark.
I gotta tell you, this Time Magazine thing, remember, they put it out on Friday.
The weekend before, so they get all the Sunday shows talking about it.
And they're just there because here's one of the reasons, ladies and gentlemen, they don't see the defense of this.
And, you know, the president's got good lawyers.
These guys, the guy from Pennsylvania is supposed to be great.
The other guy is supposed to be solid.
And they're making the arguments in constitutionality.
But Rand Paul already already boxed them in.
The great Rand Paul boxed them in.
Forty five people are forty five senators already voted.
It's unconstitutional.
They can't change that.
It's like being offsides in football.
We got a free play here and the left knows that.
They drop this down.
If this goes unanswered, Mr. Rahim Kassam, I mean, the president's argument, he's got the receipts.
He's got to answer this.
raheem kassam
And of course now what we know in the detail that's coming out.
I've literally just hit publish on a story that goes off the back of that New York Times report that you sent us about how much intelligence was known ahead of January the 6th and the failure, institutional failure.
They don't use the phrase institutional failure but if this was any other case they would have used institutional failure.
Of Capitol Police, of National Guard, of FBI.
I mean, this is what, the thousandth FBI flub in a row now?
A not-fit-for-purpose organization?
The FBI had advance warning that certain people had certain violent intentions and were going to make that peaceful event that took place on the Ellipse, will make it into a violent ruckus at the Capitol.
And that is in black and white in the New York Times, and we've cribbed it, we've put the most important parts, it's up as the lead story in the National This is another stunning thing, and this is why it's so important for you force multipliers out there to push this show.
steve bannon
We talked about this weeks ago.
What was the intel?
We're up here.
They had bicycle racks, and the Capitol Hill police are great folks, but they're not set up to deal with a march that could be a million people.
Right?
Jack Posobiec, you actually happen to be an intelligence officer.
Walk us through the New York Times, and I'm going to try to get to Denver, the article.
New York Times just breaks, I think it's Schmidt and the other guy, I think both won Pulitzer Prizes at the Associated Press about Bratton and Kelly's efforts in New York City to infiltrate, essentially infiltrate the mosque in New York City after 9-11.
These guys won the Pulitzer there.
They are dialed in to, I don't call it the deep state, but to the IC community.
So you're getting it raw and hot from them as they present this.
Jack, what's the New York Times telling us today about this intel?
jack posobiec
Look, the bottom line is that this intel piece that was presented at every level, and I want to be very clear to people that
The way the Intel cycle works is this, you get raw intelligence, you assess it at the analytic level, so your collectors collect it, your assessors, your analyzers, your officers, that core will then go and assess it, they'll bring other intelligence together, so you've got signals, you've got human intelligence, whatever you've got on a certain problem set, you're putting that all together to present a package to lawmakers or what we call the customer, the decision maker, whether that be a member of Congress, whether it be a leadership at one of the three-letter agencies, whether it be a military leader at the Pentagon,
One of your DASDs or higher SecDef level or the President National Security Council.
In this case, something I reported weeks ago, the President of the United States was briefed that there was only a low possibility that something would go on on January 6th.
That's what the President was told.
And Joe Biden has been briefed on that.
So he's been back briefed on the fact that there was no smoking gun here, that something was going to happen and people were asked to stand down.
As a matter of fact, The Department of Defense even said that they would have a quick response force on the ready, and it was Mayor Bowser who said that she didn't want people up there.
You also had people at the Pentagon saying they're worried about the optics of having extra security at the Capitol on January 6th.
So you've got a massive failure of preventative security on all fronts.
We talked about this even in real time on the day of, when all they had really up were those bike racks at the far edge of the lawn.
of the Capitol building.
And even prior to the point where people thought that they were going to come up front, there was nothing in between those bike racks, the lawn, and then the steps of Congress itself.
And the intelligence bears that out.
They were looking at chatter.
They were not up in the face of what we now know was a pre-planned operation to set not only a breach of the Capitol, but also those pipe bombs, which were planted at the RNC and the DNC.
The FBI originally said it was January 6.
Now they come out, they say, actually, wait, looks like we were wrong on that.
The tape says it was January 5th, the evening between 7.30 p.m.
and 8.30 p.m.
Why did it take the FBI three weeks?
Because they wanted to set a narrative about January 6th before they actually admitted, well, turns out it was the night before because there was a pre-planned operation and we totally missed it.
steve bannon
All this works in conjunction.
Now the lead story on The Guardian, the left-wing Guardian, great paper, gotta read it, Know Thy Enemy, by Ed Pilkington, their top writer.
Seditionaries.
FBI net closes on MAGA mob that stormed the Capitol.
Okay?
That's not a random drop.
Rahim's gonna break that down later, but here's the key thing.
The buried lead, it's the biggest investigation by the FBI and law enforcement since 9-11.
We haven't had any problems in this country since 9-11.
We didn't have any problems with jihadis.
We didn't have any problems with terrorists.
We haven't had any problems.
The largest investigation since 9-11, as reports, The Guardian.
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Today.
steve bannon
We're going to get into that next.
Jack Posovic's going to stick with us.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
Raheem, Jack Posovic, Stephen K. Bannon, you're in The War Room.
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steve bannon
Okay just to connect dots, the key to the Guardian piece and Pasovic if you can pull it up because I'm going to bring you into this conversation too, the key of the Guardian piece because Rahim just informs me it's just a collection of a lot not really breaking news.
I got that.
This is setting and driving narrative.
All these are hitting on the weekend, so the Sunday shows they can talk about.
The one thing, remember, we go back in pandemic or anything that we ever talk about is going to be major.
We try to get the nomenclature, process, statics and dynamics, critical path, all that.
Here, in the headlines, the Guardian, is their term they're going to start doing, seditionaries.
Seditionaries.
The largest investigation since 9-11.
I think they say of 235 people.
A lot of these people, I don't know if they're felonies, they're still in jail, have not been released yet, right?
And I don't know if, you know, what I'm saying is some of these are about entering a government property, Unescorted or, you know, things that I don't know rise to felonies because we haven't really seen the details of the charges.
But they're driving narrative here.
And here's where they're driving narrative.
We're going to actually have to bump Cheryl Chumley, who's going to be on here, talking about the piece in Politico the other day about the biggest problem here is, guess what?
Christian supremacism, Christian nationalism, the dangers, the dangerous part of the Christian nationalism.
We're also going to have Liz Uron here.
That there's an article out there about, in the New Republic, accusing traditional Catholics of the exact same thing.
This is all converging, ladies and gentlemen.
This is all converging.
They're all converging to designate you a domestic terrorist, that you are dangerous.
Okay, and that's what the Guardian orders to do.
That's what the Time Magazine piece is to show the superheroes, the superheroes that saved the nation from a dictatorship, from authoritarianism.
And when those people got shunned off to the side, Trump worked them up for a violent insurrection on the Capitol.
Mr. Raheem Kassam, and then we'll go to Jack Posobiec.
raheem kassam
Well, I think it's imperative today that people get their heads around the New York Times report that's also featured in Yahoo.
We have it as the lead story on the National Pulse right now, which is about the intelligence that was there before and how it wasn't acted on.
And I think people need to be asked a question.
I would love to, you know, I'd love to see a Republican actually proactively ask somebody in law enforcement, go, Why are we getting all these reports that you knew you had multiple threat assessments of various different groups, not the President's key supporters that were in town to go to the Ellipse, but you had intelligence that others were descending on the Capitol to do damage, and you allowed those groups to intermingle, and you allowed those groups to... Oh wait, I get it now.
I think I'm starting to connect the dots.
You did nothing because it was a politically motivated, it's all a politically motivated thing.
You look, hey, by the way, Yogananda Pittman, who's the new capital police chief, is a Joe Biden donor.
She is a Joe Biden donor, right?
Then let's look at the Guardian thing.
They're going to, uh, seditionaries, new words, new terminologies, um, There's this thing called the Sunday Show, and the Sunday Show sets the entire narrative, right?
steve bannon
The railhead.
raheem kassam
The railhead.
And everybody then goes for the next 24, even 48 hours and beyond, goes, okay, so this is designed... But this is a huge one, because this Sunday Show sets the tone for the trial.
steve bannon
Correct.
For Donald Trump's trial.
raheem kassam
Correct.
steve bannon
This is the big one.
That's what all these are dropping right now.
This is not random.
They're no coincidences.
These editors have been working on this, saying, hey, we're going to drop it on Friday and Saturday.
Bang.
raheem kassam
But my question is this.
If these are domestic terrorists, if there's this massive far-right domestic terror network out there, and they're telling us, oh, you know, they use Parler, and they use these forums, and all of this stuff, and we know where all of them are, and we know what they identify as, they've got Q signs on their, you know, t-shirts, and their hats, and their Twitter profiles, Why are we not seeing arrests of the leading figures of that so-called domestic movement?
steve bannon
So, Posobiec, jump in here.
Answer Rahim's question.
If it's such a big investigation, it's big at 9-11, why are they not rolling these guys up?
jack posobiec
Yeah, I actually do have some information on this based on my own conversations this week and the week prior.
I spoke to a criminal defense lawyer who's representing one of, or I believe a few of the defendants that have been charged or have been notified that charges are pending against them.
And what they told me was they have, basically they were not informed specifically what the charges were, but it was their understanding that a felony charge was coming.
Now because we've seen in many of these other cases, it's only been misdemeanors, right?
Criminal trespass on government facility or the civil disorder.
This is the same kind of stuff that, you know, left-wing activists get hit with all the time.
Amy Schumer, Jodie Foster, or Emily Radzikowski, when they went in and hundreds were arrested, by the way, for storming the Capitol during the Kavanaugh protests.
But because they are possibly looking at felonies, this criminal defense lawyer was telling me that their understanding was the only one that's really been discussed in the media is this Sedition charge and most likely what it's going to be is a seditious conspiracy.
Now, this is something that's been charged multiple times before.
The blind shake, if everyone remembers that, the blind shake in the original World Trade Center bombing of 1993, he and nine others, that's Omar Abdel Rahman, they were accused and convicted of seditious conspiracy in the bombing of the World Trade Center.
And so the reason they go for the conspiracy charge is because, of course, You know, obviously, there's no chance of really any chance of this mob going to overthrow the U.S.
government.
But if that is your intent, and if you take actions in furtherance of that intent, of that conspiracy, you've conspired with one or more in order to overthrow the United States government, we have multiple sedition acts on the books and that this could be a conspiracy charge they go for.
The U.S.
government has tried this multiple times with militias in the past.
They tried it with the Puerto Rican nationalists that bombed the Capitol in the 1980s.
Of course, Bill Clinton issued a commutation of several of them.
Barack Obama commuted Lopez Rivera for that seditious conspiracy.
So this has been a charge that the federal government has had kind of a 50-50 shot on making for individuals.
Now they're going to have to go then to a federal jury, federal grand jury, if they do go to make this charge.
But if they're going, after non-violent people that walked up there that didn't even have to go through a, you know, in some cases we've seen the videos again and again where these doors were opened, people were confused, it was a very complex situation where people didn't realize what they were doing was even breaking the law.
steve bannon
Jack, we've got to take a short break.
Just want to hold over for a couple of minutes.
I want to wrap this up with you on the other side of this.
Enraheem, short commercial break.
Jack Busso, Enraheem, it's time we're going to wrap all this up for you.
We've got Dan Schultz coming on to talk about how you now can put into action the takeover of the Republican Party.
By the unwashed masses, and then Mike Lindell will be in it.
We're trying to get Brian Kennedy to, about Brian Kennedy's assessment of the Mike Lindell documentary, Absolute Proof.
We're also in communications with Wyoming.
We've got a, Rahim, if you can tweet it out, you and Pasovic, about Liz Cheney's No Show.
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