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Feb. 4, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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EP 706- Pandemic: Woketopians on Parade (w/ Posobiec, Gaetz, Palumbo, Mendoza, Baris, Ryan)
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matt gaetz
07:52
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steve bannon
16:12
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dr maria ryan
02:22
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matt palumbo
02:18
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raheem kassam
04:54
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richard baris
04:42
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anthony fauci
00:07
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jack posobiec
00:26
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unidentified
Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
That this is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
unidentified
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
OK, we've got the vaccination of children.
We're going to get to Dr. Maria Ryan about that.
That's a whole new controversy with with Tony Fauci about that.
You know, the kids are the key to herd immunity.
Now that he backed off his numbers, not 90 percent.
Now it's 70, 85 percent for herd immunity.
But if you do the math, if you do the math, that means you're going to have to have You know, involuntary vaccinations.
If that's what it takes for herd immunity.
And we're going to get some guys in here over the weekend on Saturday to actually do the math for our audience.
Marian Mendoza about the lawlessness that Biden's bringing to the border and about internal security and all this immigration and all of our immigration policies from the angel moms will be here.
Richard Barris, the great pollster.
We've got a lot to go through, but we've got to get back to yesterday.
We had two trending, two trending This was me throwing the penalty flag because we had to fact check.
in his defense and Posobiec beaten up on AOC and you know why are you beating up on her?
unidentified
She's a populist, she's a localist, she's a human being.
This was not a Pozo beating.
Alright, I'll tell you right now, that's not what a Pozo...
This was me throwing the penalty flag because we had to fact check.
We had to fact check because she was going, she was jumping the shark a little bit.
steve bannon
Get the audience up to speed.
She was jumping the shark a little bit.
unidentified
She said she's telling this whole story that, you know, the protesters are mobbing her.
They're coming into her office.
Newsweek even prints it up in this huge Instagram story that she's done.
They're on every word, right at the edge of their seat.
And I'm a huge AOC fan, by the way.
People get me totally wrong on all this.
I actually like her.
I like where she comes from.
I think she's a localist.
I appreciate what she did for the people of her district in terms of advocacy.
steve bannon
Tell me about localism versus populism.
unidentified
The difference between localism and populism, localism means it's kind of tied to NIMBY, but more in a positive way, not my backyard.
It's the idea of, I'm going to work for my constituents, not necessarily the GDP of my district.
So I'm going to work for the people who live there, we're not going to gentrify them out, we're not going to push them out.
steve bannon
It's also the Catholic concept of subsidiarity, where you push things down to the absolute.
She's actually, in practicality, she's a big proponent of subsidiarity, which we believe here, right?
We don't like all of her policies, but what I like is her fight and her style.
matt gaetz
And she's not bought, by the way.
steve bannon
She's not bought.
unidentified
She's not.
steve bannon
That's why she's got it.
By the way, note to self, please, and you want to get this past you, AOC, announce tomorrow your primary consumer, and it'll all be passed.
But she did jump, did she jump the shark on this?
unidentified
She jumped the shark a little bit because then when it all came out, it turns out that she wasn't actually in the Capitol building.
She was in her office.
steve bannon
She wasn't in the Dome.
For people to understand, what you consider the Capitol building is the Dome.
That's what people see.
Across the street, way far away, you've got offices for Gates and all these guys actually have their offices.
Leadership has got a few offices.
unidentified
Her building, across the street, Was not breached by rioters.
And the person that was knocking at her door was a police officer, a Capitol Police officer, who was bravely making sure that she was okay and escorting her to safety.
steve bannon
Rahim, did she lie?
raheem kassam
If we're going by what constitutes a big lie, according to the media and the left now, then hers is a very big lie.
unidentified
That is the new standard.
raheem kassam
If that's the standard, it's a very big lie.
steve bannon
You and AOC are two of the best proponents of social media.
One of the reasons you're at the forefront of the populist movement, a little bit like Trump, you've disintermediated the mainstream media by using social media.
She's actually done it in a whole different level, and since civics is not taught anymore, she's been teaching civics that she cooks a little zany a night it gives a civics lesson on how things committees working you know they get two hundred fifty three thousand four thousand people watching did she jump the shark here med gates part of the victimization culture that we've created you know supercharged by social media causes some people to always feel like they have to serve up like the next great thing that that
matt gaetz
validates a sense of victimhood i like alexa get along very well we've done legislation together to know supercharged by social media causes some people to always feel like they have to serve up like the next great thing that that um validates a sense of victimhood i like alex we get along very well we've done legislation together to democratize access to ecstasy and mdma so i mean we're out there on the extension of freedom but she uh in this case there's just something that didn't add up because the tunnels from the capital to the cannon building were never occupied by anybody who breached the capital and there were no members of congress that really had an interface with the people that came in because we were we
were out of there well in time and so i when you first saw this were you kind of yeah i mean i had some reporters text me and say wait a second that based on where her office is and where you guys are being held in the ways and means room and where the people were breaching the capital this doesn't doesn't make logical sense and And obviously, with some digging, that's turned out to be the case.
steve bannon
You mean people that are insiders over there knew right away, there's something wrong with this thing?
matt gaetz
Yeah, I mean, just if you work in the Capitol building, and especially if you were there that day, you knew that there was not this sense of immediacy with danger.
But then you have to ask yourself, what was the incentive structure that caused Alex to go and make that video?
And it's that in America today, you get the most attention if you can highlight some grievance, some way in which you were the victim.
raheem kassam
I actually made this with the assistance of the architect of the Capitol.
unidentified
Wow!
steve bannon
You bigfooted Posobac's a little tiny thing.
unidentified
You bigfooted that.
That was on my phone.
We got the engine room.
steve bannon
You got all the resources of One America, the best news network.
Newsmax and One America battling for the leadership.
Poor Real America's Voice and Raheem Hassan's podcast.
We're stepping up here.
raheem kassam
So this is a view from actually from the war room side of the Capitol and the war room is actually in this picture we won't tell you where but we're in this picture and you can see where on the opposite side so they weren't on this side there were some but most of the people that you saw in a lot of the imagery coming up from the mall which is the top of this picture down towards This is where I've indicated where the rioters were, right?
Not even talking about all the other peaceful protesters, but right there.
And you can see how far away Alexander Ocasio-Cortez's office is in this image.
Now, in real time, in walking time, it's a couple of minutes, but if you're in the complex, Matt, tell us, because you're in there.
If you're in the complex and you've never been there before, how easy is it to find your way from the Capitol building itself, with the rotunda, to the tunnels, and then over to the Cannon Office building?
matt gaetz
I have worked there for four years, and I get lost daily on that walk, okay?
My recurring nightmare is that they will just find my skeleton somewhere down there in the catacombs of the Capitol, where I've been lost and been unable to recover.
unidentified
There's a few members down there.
I think there's a few members in the cell basement.
matt gaetz
We actually found Boehner down there.
down there.
Yeah.
But I mean, the, you know, it just didn't make sense at the time.
And you knew that there was going to be a more thoughtful review of this.
And I just wish we could get to the point where it wasn't your grievance that got you that much attention.
steve bannon
Right.
OK, I want to go.
Matt runs the Bongino Report for the great Dan Bongino.
I guess you're running it 120% now since Dan's tied up in the parlor situation.
I'm seeing Dan's, I'm seeing his videos on the parlor situation.
He's on the board of them, one of the big investors.
So Matt, I want to get you guys thinking, what about these emails she's sending out?
Because now she's in fight mode with you guys.
Palumbo, from Bongina Report, what is it about these emails that AOC is now taking?
She's taking this fight up to the next level.
matt palumbo
Well yeah, I've noticed that she's trying to fundraise over Jack exposing her.
Unfortunately, it probably will win.
The thing about AOC is she is god-awful at policy, but she is a master manipulator and a master at social media, and there is a large percentage of her audience, probably 99%, that is just going to trust her narrative by default, even though it's been proven otherwise.
There was a hashtag last night, it was the AOC Lied, and there was another one comparing her to Jesse Smollett, and her supporters were trying to hijack it.
Uh, some people couldn't see the message, so, uh, we're sort of at a post-proof era, and she's, uh, benefiting from it.
steve bannon
So what were they doing to counter this, guys?
raheem kassam
The email.
Talk about the email.
jack posobiec
So there was an email that came out claiming that right-wing operatives with millions of followers on Twitter, I can't imagine who she's referring to there, were attempting to mislead people about the situation and that Facebook and Twitter, that all of her followers should go to them and say, demand that they be taken down.
unidentified
All of those posts.
matt gaetz
This is very significant because this is the new battlefront.
unidentified
And this is it, right?
We're told again, hey these are private companies, these are private companies.
Well excuse me, you're a federal official, right, of the U.S.
government going to a private company.
matt gaetz
What do you mean it's a new battlefront?
When there is content that the Woketopians don't like, whether it's from people on the right or whether it's from journalists, the new way to try to cancel that content is going to be this brigading where it's against the terms of service of Twitter, but where they team up with all of their folks.
They get the Obama bros, the Podsave America, they get that whole crowd kind of riled up on it.
And I mean, this is the new mechanism by which they're going to try to stop people from seeing whatever we have to say.
raheem kassam
Yeah.
Not coming back on it and saying, all right, let me do another live stream and address what Jack Posobiec's saying.
Say, actually, I did fear for my life because of all of these other things and whatever.
But let's just have all of that information removed from social media.
matt gaetz
Let's mass report these people.
unidentified
And I'm going to say it again.
raheem kassam
Thank God she's OK.
unidentified
Thank God.
matt gaetz
And by the way, people have irrational fears that cause real trauma, and we don't want that harm to come to people. 100%.
raheem kassam
100%.
But that doesn't mean you can lie.
steve bannon
I asked you the question, did she lie or did she not?
raheem kassam
Yes.
steve bannon
She lied.
raheem kassam
Lied.
steve bannon
In what regard?
raheem kassam
In the regard that... Pretty harsh term.
And listen, the lie may have come from her own trauma, right?
She may have internalized a truth that simply isn't.
That happens.
steve bannon
But she needs to assess... In the objective world of right and wrong and rationale, they say science-based, science-based, evidence-based...
unidentified
We are impeaching the President of the United States over these incidents, right?
So we can't play fast and loose with the facts, with the timeline.
She's saying there were bombs all over the place, bombs in the tunnels, that people were tearing up and down the hallways.
steve bannon
Look, we've got to deconstruct this.
matt gaetz
Wait a second.
Do you think then that the timing of that Instagram Live she did is tied more to the timing of impeachment than to her trauma?
steve bannon
100%.
matt gaetz
Because it was a lot later.
steve bannon
No, it came out the same day the thing was dropped.
That's an interesting question.
Okay, I want to go back.
Palumbo, you guys are on fire.
Bongino Report, you're the editor-in-chief.
Dan is all over this Parler situation.
We try to cram so much news in here.
What do you guys look at as the big stories that people should be following that are signal, not noise, not chasing the everyday?
When we look at Bongino Report, what are you guys focused on and what are you pushing?
matt palumbo
So right now our top story is about the Defense Secretary ordering a 60-day stand down.
Fake story.
They're claiming they're trying to look for extremism within the ranks of the military, particularly white nationalists.
And they're claiming January 6th was their wake-up call.
Now we obviously know this is just going to be a witch hunt.
The purpose of this really isn't to ruin out people, it's to narrative build.
They are going to be able to find a certain number of people who said the wrong thing on social media at some time and point to them and say, isn't this a sign of a larger problem?
But that is the real motive behind it.
And we even saw them try to screen National Guard troops to make sure they didn't vote for Trump when they've been guarding the Capitol.
steve bannon
This is a massive, this is a massive, this is a massive, this is a massive, this is a massive, massive, massive story.
What are you guys doing?
How are you guys, tell us, let's just focus on that one.
What are you guys at the Bongino Report doing to analyze this and to push it forward?
matt palumbo
Well, I mean, right now, all we really can do is have it be our top story.
You know, I'll probably write about it later on.
But, you know, I just try to, you know, anytime I see a key story like that, I just try to push it as much as I can and just stay on top of it for a number of days in a row and try to have at least, you know, one top story on it so no one, you know, doesn't fall through the cracks and no one misses it.
steve bannon
We've got to bounce, Matt, but one question I think everybody in the nation has for Dan is, what is happening to Parler?
It sounded like from Dan's video last night, there's a possibility that Parler can come back.
I've heard from other people that Parler's gone, it's eviscerated.
Not to give inside baseball, but to people, is there a hope through the efforts of Dan Bongino that Parler could actually return?
matt palumbo
Yeah, every time I talk to Dan, it's just, you know, we don't exactly know when, but there's never any doubt whatsoever that it's going to be coming back.
You know, my understanding is their issue with the CEO was more with his competency.
And, you know, the thing is, when you go public as a company, you have to disclose every risk factor that could potentially spring up.
So I looked at some the other day, and every single one that used Amazon Web Services listed that as a risk factor that they could lose their web hosting.
So every company that uses Amazon Web Services is aware of the possibility.
So the fact that he had it prepared for that possibility or hedged it in some way, it doesn't really look great.
matt gaetz
The next round of American billionaires are those who can build resiliency to this cancel culture.
I mean, who can vertically integrate so that your content is protected.
steve bannon
Matt, what's your social media accordance so people can follow you during the day besides the Bongino Report?
matt palumbo
MattPalumbo12 on Twitter.
I'm sure Raheem will be kind enough to tweet that out.
Then once Parler's back, I'll have the same handle there.
matt gaetz
Thirsty.
Thirsty for the tweet.
steve bannon
Thank you, Matt Palumbo.
Bongino wrote the great Bongino.
Anybody can bring back Parler.
Dan Bongino's the guy that can do it.
We'll have the killer elite back with Richard Barris in a second.
unidentified
War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Banham.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to bring in Richard Barris in a second, the People's Pundit, the greatest pollster out there, in one moment.
A couple things, housekeeping I've got to take care of.
I realize we try to give the nation and the world, because this audience is so massive, the populist nationalist movement globally, in Laobaijing in China, inside baseball.
But every now and again you realize when you're doing the show, you really are a jamoke, right?
And you're still buying retail.
In the last segment, the buried lead in today's show has been, you know, we're saying AOC, and Posobiec and I are huge AOC fans.
I know that kills the audience.
Don't like our politics, but like the cut of her jib, as we say in the Navy.
Gates drops a couple times, Alex.
Alex.
matt gaetz
She goes by Alex.
steve bannon
You just realized that, you just realized you're an... Sandy?
unidentified
Not Sandy, stop.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to come back to that in a second, this whole AOC thing, but I want to go to what the Bongino Report and Matt Palumbo, they're always on it.
Go to the Bongino Report, you've got Citizens Free Press, you've got the Populous Press, you've got Darren Boehn and the guys over at The Revolver.
You've got so many great sites out there now.
Right?
That are, you know, Canon 212 for the religious side, the live stream of Spirits.org.
I want to go to what he said about the stand-down.
My daughter, the West Point grad, we were talking about it last night.
She's working on a story.
This stand-down is not a small thing.
This is a big thing.
And it's a big thing not just for optics.
This started with the National Guard the other day and DeSantos and Abbott had enough courage to say, hey look, if you're going to ask us to send our guys up there, We screen them well enough down in Texas and Florida, okay?
If they're okay for us, they're okay for you when they come up.
We don't want any more of this.
But you represent Pensacola, Florida.
The greatest training of naval aviators.
My kid brother was there.
That's where he learned to be a Navy pilot.
He went back.
They bring the elite to be instructors.
He was an instructor there.
It is beloved in Navy air and legendary in every armed force in the world to go to Pensacola.
Are they going to do a 60-day stand-down in Pensacola because of radical domestic terrorists?
Is this what I'm hearing?
matt gaetz
This stand-down is an acceleration of the strategy we initially saw deployed during the Obama era to try to reshape the military to service the political left.
This is a purge.
steve bannon
Well, they went through the officer corps then.
Now they're going through the non-commissioned officers and the enlisted?
matt gaetz
You got it.
Because, I mean, look, they want the military on their side.
I mean, that is pure power politics.
And so they are finding people who express conservative views, populist views, and they're trying to purge them.
And this is the reason.
And they're going to use January 6th as a justification.
And it is horrendous because so many of these patriotic Americans who sign up to wear the uniform, as you have a rich history of in your family, Do believe what we believe.
It's why they want to fight for our country.
It's why they want to be part of the defense of our great nation.
And, you know, they want to build a woke military.
steve bannon
What are you going to do about this?
You represent Pensacola Naval Air Station and the naval base down there.
What are the Republicans, and particularly the populace, going to do about this?
matt gaetz
Look, I'm on the House Armed Services Committee and I expect a lot of this agenda to flow through that committee legislatively, and we're going to have to team up with some patriotic Democrats who are a little bit in the middle because we have no actual power here right now.
But you know some of these folks who are patriots, who are Democrats, but who wore the uniform, who care about their brothers and sisters who wear the uniform as well.
We're going to need their help because the Woketopians are coming.
steve bannon
They eviscerated the senior officer corps in the military.
This is why you got so many progressive left-wing generals, right?
This is the problem.
I don't want to say this is the reason we don't win a lot of these wars anymore.
Just saying.
Okay, I want to bring in Barris.
Barris, to do this, you have to have political capital.
The polling's been all over the map.
That's why we had to get you in here.
People want to listen to what you have to say.
If Joe Biden is to, he's doing executive orders, but he's backed off the amnesty bill, we're going to have Miriam Mendoza on the bottom of the hour talk about what he's doing as an executive, or the radical nature of this, but if he's to push this legislation, and already he's got Manchin, he's got Kyrsten Sinema, kind of backing off, he needs political capital.
That means approval ratings.
Trump was at, I think, 56% at this time.
Obama was at 67%, 68%.
Where, in your mind, is Joe Biden and does he have the political capital to push through a radical agenda right now?
richard baris
We're going to have brand new today, and this is the third one we've done nationally since he was sworn into office.
When we first polled him, Steve, he was at 47%.
That was January 23rd.
And then he did tick up a little bit above 50 at the end of the month, but he came back down.
And I want to share this with you because today, this is what jumped out at me.
He's probably going to end up around 48 or 49, but his approval with union members was 51% in the last poll.
Now it's 41.
And disapproval is 52.
And the undecided... Stop, stop, stop.
steve bannon
You're talking blue-collar, hard-working, populist union members.
He's at 41%?
He's at 41.
And that's a 10% decline.
matt gaetz
Is it all Keystone, Richard?
This is Matt Gates.
Is it all Keystone pipeline related?
richard baris
Yeah, Matt, how are you?
That's got to have something to do with it, I imagine.
You know, there's just been a lot of blowback to that, and in this election we did see a lot of push by the leadership to get their membership in line.
I was wondering whether or not that would hold when real policy decisions started to come down the pike, and I think we're seeing that.
This is a reaction.
Has to be.
steve bannon
Go ahead, John.
matt gaetz
Yeah, my question would be, you know, what would be some of the regions in the country, some of the maybe congressional districts, where this swing would have its greatest political acuity?
Are we talking about, you know, the Midwest?
Are we talking about some of these seats that the Democrats still hold in Texas?
You know, where should we be looking to leverage, you know, this change?
Virginia's another one.
richard baris
Yeah, there is.
Yeah, I really do think Abigail Spanberger and Virginia 7 probably should have went down.
So a lot of these races, Wisconsin's, you have a district in southern Wisconsin, you have Michigan's 11th, 3rd, all of that was pretty much left on the table, really.
There weren't big pushes.
When people believe media polls and not actual voting results, they make decisions on where to allocate resources.
And there were some pretty bad decisions.
There's just no way to... There's no nice way to slice it.
This is big in the Midwest.
There's no doubt about it.
When it comes to where people tell us they are union members, it is disproportionately in the Midwest.
So... Well, it's blue states, right?
matt gaetz
I mean, in Florida, we're right to work states.
richard baris
Yeah, they're blue states.
Yeah, they're blue states.
And Minnesota, too, is another one.
But yeah, I'm wondering if this will hold, because I can't help but to think some of the dip among working men that the president saw, there were more of them in the electorate, but he didn't win them by as big of a margin as he did in 2016.
I've been wondering whether or not that would be temporary.
And if this keeps up, that means it's probably going to be temporary.
steve bannon
Okay, let me ask you, your range for Biden right now in his approval rating is 47 to 49 percent, okay?
We're seeing other polls that have him... 52.
Okay, we have 52.
We have other polls that show him at around 54.
unidentified
Actually, Richard, can I ask, what do you think about all of these polls that we're seeing out of YouGov lately?
It seems like we're inundated with YouGov polls.
Every five minutes I see a new one.
richard baris
Yeah, YouGov is something a little funny, Jack.
It really does matter how you compensate these people to take surveys.
If you give somebody two or three bucks to take a survey to earn towards a Kohl's gift card, the only thing you're gonna get is a bunch of girls who, you know, college-age girls maybe, I mean it's just a very good typical example, who are trying to earn money to, you know, $30 gift card to buy a new bra at Kohl's, but they have no intention of actually voting.
That happened to YouGov in 2016.
Their panel is not good.
I've been a critic of them.
You have to verify whether or not these people are who they say they are.
Your lists have to be deduped against actual voter files.
That is a consumer poll.
And YouGov basically gathers all of this data and then sells it out to different people.
That's what YouGov does.
They're not actually polling it themselves.
That's why you can see The Economist with a very different result than the CBS tracker poll, which is also sourced by YouGov.
Either way, they're both consumer polls, really, and there's no difference between a consumer panel and YouGov.
matt gaetz
I think they should be able to buy that broad, still have money left on the $30 gift card at Kohl's.
steve bannon
So this is why you've got to have a show.
Kohl's is good.
Here's the question, though.
He's now trying to do the COVID bill, right, through this technicality that just needs a majority vote.
The amnesty bill is now dead and they're trying to break it up and he's trying to, you know, trying to use executive orders.
matt gaetz
Oh, that'll all be done through executive action.
steve bannon
Executive action.
But my point is that you can't, he knows he doesn't have the stroke to push this through.
Where does he actually stand in your mind right now?
How much political capital, as you look out there, Richard Barris, does Joe Biden have?
richard baris
Yeah, I think not much.
And here's why.
Some of this has to do, too, with some disappointing comments and events that surround the coronavirus.
So people who did vote for Joe Biden in good faith.
All right.
and may have supported the president otherwise, did so because they believe that he could do a better job handling the coronavirus.
And there's no progress there.
And the president himself has basically said, there's not much we can do, it's gonna be a bad winter, and that's it.
He set a goal for the vaccinations that you don't have to be smart.
I mean, that was Trump's goal.
He basically already hit it.
So I think there is certain voters out there that are disappointed that there isn't this massive mobilization that they were promised.
And they're just not seeing anything.
So that earned him some credibility.
I think it was unwarranted to begin with.
But now he's actually in a position where he can govern.
steve bannon
You don't think they've got the baseball stadium out west.
You don't think they've now.
They've basically announced they're federalizing this, right?
They're taking more away from the states to push the vaccines.
We're going to get into that later in the show, but you don't think people are starting to see that he understands he's got to take more action?
I think he's trying to up the game of vaccines of, what, a couple hundred million by summer.
Fauci's telling you you've got to vaccinate the kids.
Do you think that'll change his numbers around, or do you think right now he's lost the political capital he had from his inauguration and he's going to be a guy that's in the high 40s, low 50s?
richard baris
Yeah, I don't know that that'll have much of an effect.
We ask open answers, and one of them that jumped out at me was a woman in Lansing, and she basically said, why all this now?
You were preparing to take over the White House for a month or two months.
Why are you now shifting your plans?
I thought maybe, when I voted for him, that he already had one.
So if people think like that, Steve, he's gonna slip.
steve bannon
Barris, how do people get to you?
We've got to bounce.
We've got about 15 seconds.
How do people get to contact you during the day?
richard baris
Yeah, on Twitter, at peoples underscore pundit, and they can find me on Locals, too.
peoplespundit.locals.com.
steve bannon
You're the best, Richard.
Thank you very much for joining us here in the War Room.
Okay, short comment.
By the way, do you buy that polling that Biden's in the high 40s?
matt gaetz
Yeah.
steve bannon
No political capital, really?
matt gaetz
No ability to legislate.
steve bannon
Got to do it by executive order?
matt gaetz
All of it.
steve bannon
Okay, Marianne Mendoza is going to be here talking about that.
The Angel Mom.
We'll be back in a second.
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steve bannon
So Raheem, is Alex fighting back?
Is Alex fighting back?
raheem kassam
Well, that appears to be the case.
I mean, she's now become obsessed with this.
And that kind of is a massive tell in and of itself.
steve bannon
She knows she's got a problem.
raheem kassam
She's got a problem.
She's putting out emails.
She's endlessly tweeting back at people.
She tweeted in response to Jack Pesso, but yesterday got ratioed on that tweet.
She's now in a back and forth with uh... nancy may so this is not the basis of the same corridor i believe as a mc is our alex is and is disputing uh... alexander a classical tuesday series sequence of events here i'm actually going through and putting together a a a kind of a long-form look at all of this with the timeline my original timeline which shows you know when the president was speaking verses when they evacuated
uh... canon office building and so on so forth And I've got to tell you, as I go through this, actually it's getting worse for AOC because now I'm reading about... That's why she's fired back.
steve bannon
She knows what's to come.
raheem kassam
She knows what's coming, because now I wouldn't be surprised if she deletes her Instagram video on this, by the way, because she admitted in that video that after she was in her office and panicked and looking through the door hinges and all of this, she then goes down the hallway, finds her colleague Katie Porter's office, goes in there, they have a cup of coffee together.
Coffee.
She talks about having a cup of coffee together.
unidentified
Tea time with the Queen.
raheem kassam
Right.
So this is just not working out for her.
matt gaetz
But why does this one hurt so bad?
My theory is that it exposes a lack of sincerity.
Because the reason we all kind of like AOC is because she's got game and because she is who she is.
steve bannon
She's the bartender that kind of took on the establishment.
matt gaetz
And that's why those little civics cooking shows kind of work.
So abjectly insincere that it cuts against her in a pretty sure way.
steve bannon
This plays into the thing that people might think blows up.
She's an actress.
Yes, she's an actress.
Total phony.
unidentified
What I think it also plays into is a greater epistemological question.
Well, we're going there.
It's $12 words that this is do we believe in?
Absolute truth or subjective truth, right?
The truth versus my truth.
And that you hear this again and again with the Woketopians.
Well, my truth is that there were people out there and my fear and my emotions, right?
It's all about her.
It's all about the emotions, the inverted hierarchy of victimhood.
But when you actually go and look at the cold, hard facts, it doesn't line up.
steve bannon
That is about the 77 days.
This gets at what they're impeaching the president about.
It's epistemological.
This topic, and this is why Matt Gaetz, with Peter Navarro's report, and Cortez, and Matt Brainerd, and Phil Kline, all these guys have done the analytics.
Somebody has got to be the firebrand in there next week to get to the absolute truth.
matt gaetz
You know, the Senators on the Republican side are wringing their hands saying, whatever you do, don't say anything about election fraud.
steve bannon
I know.
It's the forbidden words.
unidentified
It's what the realities are.
The New York Times is out there calling, we need a realities czar.
We need Biden to come out because these are all epistemological.
That's what that's talking about.
The discussion of what is reality.
matt gaetz
The secretary of keeping it real.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Minister of truth.
raheem kassam
It's the ministry of truth.
steve bannon
You have wrong think.
unidentified
Exactly.
raheem kassam
You had 10,000 words in the New York Times.
unidentified
9,000 was opinion.
steve bannon
1,000 was bylines.
raheem kassam
you had exactly a ten thousand words in the new york times nine thousand was opinion one thousand was bylines right yes that's that's the way that's not about but when it comes to the truth versus my truth i don't think that necessarily goes right to it because there are a lot of people who are sympathetic to her who are now coming out against her who do you do believe in personal truth It's too over the top.
Right?
No, no.
What it is, what it is, is that there is unity in this country around condemnation of breaking into the Capitol building.
There is unity on that subject and everybody felt a sense of purpose that they could come together and condemn that and now you have somebody who's breaking the reality of unity on that subject.
unidentified
And that's, AOC is actually doing more harm to the unity that people experience in roundly condemning their She's taking that unity and she's personalizing it, but now exploiting it for personal political advantage, for fundraising, for trying to ban her public opponents.
steve bannon
I want to talk about Truth vs. Spin.
I want to bring in Mary Mendoza, one of the great angel moms.
Talk to us, Mary.
All day we've been talking at polling about Biden, and what Biden's really doing with these executive orders, things that he can't pass, he can't bring the country together.
The past bills, particularly on this amnesty situation, he puts out a radical bill, gets blown up, now he's going to do it by executive order.
But on enforcement, the bill had nothing to do with enforcement, but on the border, all the great work that President Trump did.
And you can see how the Hispanic working-class community in the Rio Grande Valley responded to that with this overwhelming support for Trump in 2020 among blue-collar Hispanics who want border security and also want better opportunities, higher wages, lower unemployment, so they don't have to compete against illegal alien labor.
Marianne, you're one of the leaders of this move in the Angel Moms.
What's going on on the border?
unidentified
Well, in McAllen, Texas, just recently, many illegals were suddenly being dropped off at bus stations.
People started getting a little concerned about what was going on.
These people were being bused and transported into the interior of the United States without COVID testing.
And so the Biden administration has now directed DHS to go ahead and start transporting these people who they are apprehending down in the Rio Grande Valley and in the McAllen area.
On Wednesday, a state senator, Juan Hinojosa, said that the city of McAllen had sounded the alarm.
Because of all these people being transported to the interior of the United States without being COVID tested.
They sent 10,000 COVID tests down there.
And they are being paroled to temporarily live in the interior of the United States.
This isn't reported on a mainstream media.
If they test positive, they are being sent to nearby hotels to quarantine before they're getting on public transportation now.
And who's footing the bill?
That's nothing, Marianne.
taxpayer unbeknownst to them. The Border Patrol in the Rio Grande Valley were apprehending 800 illegals daily last week. That's 5,600 in one week. That's not at our ports of entry. That's over our unsecured borders. The unsecured borders that Biden administration says...
matt gaetz
That's nothing, Marianne. This is Matt Gaetz. Marianne, it's good to connect with you again.
This is Matt Gaetz.
My expectation is that you'll see those numbers increase tenfold.
Tenfold?
Oh yeah.
I mean they're taking the money that we allocated for the wall and they're repurposing it for these welcome centers.
And what Marianne is right about is that the United States federal government has become the biggest human trafficker in the world.
Because we take these people out of their trafficking portals that have been developed by cartels, and then we go re-deliver those people right back into the arms of the cartels by busing them around, flying them around, and in the meantime, they carry the virus with them.
steve bannon
Hold on, hold on.
This is what I don't understand.
Hang on, I want to hit reset for a second with you, Marianne.
Joe Biden, who staked, as Barris just tells, he staked his entire presidency.
In fact, Tony Fabrizio just leaked the 30-page analysis from the Trump campaign from Fabrizio that says, hey, you won 6-1, 6-1 on the economy, but you lost this about your handling, your trustworthiness in handling the pandemic.
Biden staked his entire presidency, the first 100 days on both the co-relief bill, but more importantly, getting his hands on the vaccine distribution and this Are you telling me and you're telling the nation that's unreported that down in the Rio Grande Valley in the great town of McAllen that people are coming up and not really being tested and being shipped in by the Biden administration to the interior of the country?
Can you back that up?
unidentified
Reporting from the border report, I've got all the backing up on this information.
steve bannon
And so tell us what's going on again.
I want to hear one more time.
unidentified
The citizens there in McAllen were getting really concerned because all of these illegals were being dropped off at the bus stations and being transported to the interior of the United States.
And so just recently, a state senator kind of brought this information forward.
And so they sent 10,000 COVID tests there to McAllen to start testing these illegals before putting them on public transportation.
And if they test positive, they're being quarantined in local hotels.
Otherwise, if they don't test positive, they are being put into the interior of the United States.
But how long this was going on without them being tested?
That's the big question.
And that's where the Biden administration needs to answer.
What are the first thing that I want to talk about?
steve bannon
Yeah, yeah.
Go ahead.
unidentified
You know, they talk about these children being separated and there's 580, 545 migrant children that are still separated.
And Biden's talking about putting a committee together to get these children reunified with their parents.
485 of those 545 parents have been located in their home countries.
They do not want their children back because the Biden administration gave them hope of open borders, amnesty and a path to citizenship on the horizon.
And these shady attorneys here in the United States who deal with these illegal, giving them hope and, you know, further raping them of the money that they make.
They are now creating this task force to reunite these families.
And guess what the solution is going to be?
Guarantee, I mark my words, it's going to be to bring those parents from those foreign countries to reunite with their children here in the United States.
And so this is going to be the pattern of the Biden administration.
And it's not America first anymore.
And this is what I am so upset about because I know I'm going to be having more angel families join our organization.
And I speak up because I don't want any more members of our organization.
We need to stop this insanity.
steve bannon
Marianne, I want to thank you for joining us.
We're going to come back next week and have a deeper dive on all the executive orders he's doing to really just eviscerate enforcement in this country.
Marianne, how do people get to you?
What are your social media coordinates?
What's the website?
I want to get people back engaged and thinking about the Angel Moms and all the... There was so much great work done during the Trump administration.
You were guys at the forefront of that.
You were one of the great allies of President Trump.
I want to just make sure we understand how to reach you.
unidentified
Permanently suspended on Twitter.
My Angel Families, my Angel Moms, and my personal account.
You can find me on Facebook, Marianne Mendoza.
There is an Angel Families Facebook page that I continually put all the crimes that are being committed.
And our website is www.angelfamilies.org.
steve bannon
Where can people get to all the crimes that are being committed?
Give the site that they can go to to access that?
unidentified
It's the Angel Families United Facebook page.
steve bannon
Marianne Mendoza, a patriot and a hero.
unidentified
Thank you very much for joining us in the War Room.
steve bannon
Thanks, Steve.
This is with the girls sports, with the radical nature of what he's doing on the border.
These are natural lines of how you stop this radical Biden agenda.
Mr. Gates.
matt gaetz
Remember, we made our progress on immigration through the executive order, so we should not be surprised that that progress is being undone by the very same tool.
Mitch McConnell and Senate Republicans would not fight to ensconce these changes to asylum laws in actual law, so President Trump... Why would they not do it?
Oh, you know why.
Because corporate America wants illegal immigration.
These same corporate PACs that are canceling Republicans want to drive down wages, they want to invite everyone across our border illegally because it helps their quarterly earnings and their bonuses and their dividends pay out, but it hurts the working people of this country.
steve bannon
Is this one of the reasons you never took corporate PAC money?
matt gaetz
I swore off corporate PAC money after realizing that it truly was the most despicable thing when you see people sell out their beliefs and sell out their country for a few thousand bucks at a time.
And it happens every day in this town.
I'm the only Republican in Congress that doesn't take PAC money of any kind.
Ideological PAC money, corporate PAC money, leadership PAC money, and I wish others would join me.
steve bannon
I want to get back to one other thing.
My good friend Jeff Quatness was just on MSNBC with Stephanie Ruhle talking about he's one of the guys at the forefront of doing a lawsuit to protect the Reddit guys, a class action suit against all the stuff that came against him.
He's also one of the big believers in ecstasy as a solution for PTSD.
He's worked with Harvard guys.
I know you support that and AOC supports it.
Tell us about that because I'm an anti-drug guy, but Quatness has convinced me that for PTSD this is what it is.
What are you guys working on?
matt gaetz
I have veterans in my district who are able to go to sleep, who are able to have a relationship with their family, who are able to work and have normal lives because they microdose certain types of MDMA, ecstasy, psilocybin.
I don't believe research should be illegal in this country.
I want to get more answers and more cures, not fewer.
That's why AOC and I have legislation to allow our country to do that research, to work with veterans, and hopefully help some of our greatest and bravest patriots live better lives.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to turn a second talking about research, talking about medicine, and we're talking about vaccines and our favorite guy, Dr. Tony Fauci, Maria Ryan.
Dr. Maria Ryan will join us right after the break.
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steve bannon
Mike McCormick, who's known Biden for, I think, 9 or 10 years, has got the book Biden Unauthorized.
He thinks he's got the mental capacity now of about 50%.
He's affected by the Sundowner effect, which many, many older people are.
That's why Raheem Kassamat, is it 2.30 this afternoon he's going to be at the State Department before Sundowner hits him?
2.45.
2.45, get that.
So what speech is he giving?
raheem kassam
So today, Joe Biden will lay out what Jen Psaki called his first love in her press conference the other day, that is, foreign policy.
I thought that was a pretty telling line from Psaki, especially given the way she answered the question about him being a Catholic yesterday.
unidentified
Well, especially given his foreign policy.
steve bannon
He's been on the wrong side of every decision in 40, 50 years.
I digress.
raheem kassam
Yes, so here's what we expect today.
There will be lots of talk about multilateralism, which is of course globalism.
Lots of talk about entering the United States back into these sort of European, NATO, multilateral institutions, Paris, climate change, so on and so forth.
And I also expect to hear some sabre rattling over Russia.
This is going to be his attempt to switch sides.
From China, from the foreign policy focus of China under the Trump administration, to the tackling Russia, which remember has the economy the size of the state of New York, an economy the size of Italy, and this is what Biden is going to be focusing on.
matt gaetz
If foreign policy is Joe Biden's first love, let's hope for the sake of the world he gets a mistress.
You know, the play for Biden is going to be to try to threat construct around Russia as much as possible to justify a massive infusion of U.S.
cash into these NATO countries.
Before you go give, like, Macedonia 50 million bucks for their NATO approval plan, you've got to threat construct around Belarus, around Russia, and what that does is it does take our eye off the ball as it relates to China.
The Yemen piece today is going to be all a setup to get the US back in the Iran nuke deal, which of course is a catastrophe.
steve bannon
Pacific, China.
It should be CCP all the time.
We confirmed them.
We finally got their attention.
Unrestricted warfare, economic information warfare, battle group South China Sea, flights over Taiwan.
Why is he not taking on China?
unidentified
Look, we talked about the stand down when it comes to extremism in the ranks.
You're going to see a stand down in the Indo-Pacific from US forces.
And when I say US forces, I don't mean only military.
I'm talking about that unrestricted warfare, the way that Navarro and Trump We're unleashing economic warfare, information warfare.
They were fighting the CCP's lies.
They were debunking them in real time.
They were going after them on all fronts.
steve bannon
The big Atlantic Council piece, the New Long Telegram, never mentions information economic warfare.
It's diplomacy and gunboat diplomacy.
unidentified
It's all gunboat diplomacy.
It's like the 18th century.
steve bannon
On the border of Tibet, they've got troops up there.
They're funding money into Pakistan on one belt, one road.
And now they're in Burma.
Remember, they're circling, the anchor to the Indo-Pacific would be India, okay?
We've got to wake up.
We're going to be all over the Biden.
This is the feckless Jake Sullivan and the feckless Tony Blanken, his Secretary of State, and of course the feckless Joe Biden, been on the wrong side of every public policy, foreign policy decision.
I've got to go now to Dr. Maria Ryan, CEO of the Cottage Hospital up in New Hampshire.
Tony Fauci.
Part of his multilateralism is to kowtow to the WHO.
Tony Fauci said the other day, the key to herd immunity is going to be the vaccination of the children.
You see this coming, that they're saying now it's 70 to 85 percent, or Tony Fauci's actually saying on some interviews 90 percent.
That means that you're going to have to have involuntary vaccinations.
That's the way the math works.
You're going to get to herd immunity Dr. Ryan, with children, in this thing about they're the key to herd immunity, walk our audience through, we've got about four minutes, walk our audience through, what does that mean?
How are they to interpret that?
dr maria ryan
Good morning.
Herd immunity, or community immunity, is when a large portion of the population are immune to a specific disease.
We have to look at what's called the reproduction number.
And it's theorized that for every one person with COVID, they infect two to three people.
So that means we have to have 50 to 67% of the population who has immunity.
How do you get it?
Two ways.
Natural immunity, you get the disease and hopefully have long term immunity, or at least partial long term immunity, or through a vaccine.
We are certainly not ready to vaccinate our children.
There's been very little studies under 12 years of age, and we can't even go there.
Number one.
steve bannon
Hold it.
Full stop.
Hold it.
Full stop.
They say in his report, the three-page report, they got to do more research on adolescents.
Don't even mention children.
The ink's not even dry on that thing.
That's the report last week.
Why is Tony Fauci out there running up the flagpole?
Because this is what they do, saying the key To herd immunity is the vaccination of children.
Why is he doing that, Dr. Ryan?
dr maria ryan
You know, I cannot guess why he's doing that.
I get a little nervous.
You know, the Biden administration, science, science, science.
We've got to listen to the scientists.
Well, I have several degrees in science and science is a bunch of theories, right?
This is a novel virus.
We're not even sure how many kids have been affected.
and have a they were asymptomatic so therefore they have immunity so they may not be the key because we've known that it spreads very quickly because none of us have natural immunity to it because it's a novel virus so pinning it saying that the children are the key I don't really get it.
I think our immunization should be geared towards those 65 and above, those with two comorbidities who want the vaccine.
It has to be voluntary.
And then we go from there.
We need to do what's called longitudinal studies.
So we take a person, regardless of their age, And we look at their immunity through time.
These take a long time.
You know, five years out, ten years out, do we still have immunity?
steve bannon
Hang on, I just need to focus on one thing.
What type of research needs to be done before you start vaccinating children, in your opinion?
dr maria ryan
Oh my God, there's so much studies that have to be done with it.
You mentioned that we haven't even really done a lot of research on adolescents.
Moderna can't get anybody under 12 to do any kind of research on.
So this would be years out, if ever, because this is a much longer process when you're talking about vaccinating.
matt gaetz
But this isn't about school or science.
It's about politics.
It's about the fact that Biden's got a problem with the soccer moms who want to put their kids back in school, and so they're ignoring the science because they know they have a political liability.
steve bannon
Dr. Ryan, we've got to bounce.
I'm going to have you back on hopefully tomorrow.
raheem kassam
Okay.
steve bannon
Just give us your coordinates right now so people are following you on social media.
We're going to have you back on either tonight or tomorrow.
We've got to drill down on this thing with the kids.
What's your social media handle?
dr maria ryan
That's MariaRyanNH for the great state of New Hampshire.
DrMariaRyan.com.
steve bannon
We'll have you back on.
Raheem, you got the podcast today, one of the hottest podcasts in the country?
raheem kassam
Jack and I will be going through this AOC stuff in excruciating detail.
unidentified
Breaking news, AOC is now referring to herself as a combat veteran.
steve bannon
Wow.
Okay.
We're going to take a... We're going to be back at 5 o'clock tonight.
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